I Took Grab Everywhere for Two Weeks. Here's How Much I Saved. | TBH
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- Can you save money by taking Grab or any other private-hire service around, compared to owning a car? And how much cheaper is it?
In this episode, we sent our host Nicole (@superdamncool) on an experiment to take a cab everywhere for two weeks, to see how it fares as an alternative mode of transport against owning a car, renting a car or taking public transport.
This is TBH, a new series where we investigate, experiment and find the answers to some of Singapore's biggest millennial problems-rising costs of living, the terrors of technology and AI, and much more!
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0:00 Intro
1:38 How much I think I would spend
2:02 Meeting someone who cabs daily
4:21 Meeting someone who owns their own vehicle
6:45 Day 7 of experiment
8:25 Meeting someone who chose car sharing over car ownership
12:20 How much I ACTUALLY spent
Director & Producer: Nicole (@superdamncool)
Crew:
Jia Ling (@jialinng)
Nicole (@collaision)
Yu En (@heyyuen)
Editor:
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Charmaine (@jetaimexd)
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Since when peak hour is 16 dollar 🤣 Feels more like 27 to 35 dollars
Ok true but I guess we got lucky hahaha
exactly. for the core residential areas like clementi, amk, punngol, tampines. traveling to town and back for work during peak, you can chalk up $60-70 a day easy.
I grab to work in morning cause i really need that extra sleep and take public transport back.
Advertising for Grab??
There was once I kena $39 sia damn sien
Throughout the whole video, unfortunately there was not 1 interviewee who fulfilled the actual point of this experiment.
The first female interviewee cabs/grabs to work everyday, but she splits it with another person, therefore making her account less relavant to the experiment. She also does not grab back home, which means her actual expenditure should have been ~$17*2 for 2 trips a day, 5 days a week, amounting to around ~$750 a month.
The second interviewee rides a bike, which basically is directly irrelevant to the point of this video.
The third interviewee also does not directly speak to the point of this experiment. In fact, it is contradictory because it shows that you NEED a car, but if you cannot/do not wish to afford one, you can try renting.
I could only take reference from the actual results of your experiment - which amounted to $469.20, meaning around $1,173 per month.
As stated in the video, to own a car it costs around $1.2k/mth, therefore proving that owning a car is akin to cabbing/grabbing around, without the downsides of i.e. waiting time.
Conclusion - If you cab/grab everywhere everyday, you may as well own a car.
but cabbing no need drive leh
driving more fun leh@@chaleur4112
It’s additional 1.2k a month, on top of the 170k car price that you will pay. Lol.
@@wennnnn2307 Oh right, I misunderstood that. I stand corrected. Then based on an 8-year loan and $170,000 for an Altis, its around $3k/mth. Which means cabbing/grabbing everywhere everyday is almost half the cost.
A Toyota Altis costs 170k, of which you'd pay 40% in downpayment upfront ($68,000) and the remaining 60% ($102,000) via loans. A 7-year loan with an interest of ~2.8% would amount to $1,453 / month. This is of course not inclusive of petrol, parking, road tax, insurance, and maintenance. A realistic monthly spend for a car of this price range would be ~$2k/month.
However there are other cheaper car models such as a Honda Fit which would bring your overall spending down to roughly 1.5k/month.
Slightly on par with grabbing around everywhere especially with more costly scenarios not shown in this video (ie. rainy weather / past midnight cabs). On top of that, you also avoid nausea inducing cab drivers, for the inconvenience of driving yourself around. haha
If you have the kind of jams in Singapore that you do in Bangkok and KL, you'd be spending as much time travelling by car as you do now on public transport. It's not necessarily either or for bus, train or cab. You could mix it up depending on timing and what you need to do.
I feel like the cost-benefit analysis changes for a young family. I have 2 kids. If each of them takes the school bus, it's $250/month x 2. I bring my grandmother who is 95 to the hospital for checkups and visits regularly (averaging 4 trips /month). A round trip costs $30 in cab fare, x 4 = $120.
My wife and I each spend $200 / month on public transport.
A car costs roughly 1.4k / month, but saves me $1020 / month. The difference of $380 buys me at least 30hours of transport time saved / month.
What is each hour worth to you? Because if you're willing to pay $13 to get an hour of free time, a car is actually (possibly) worth it.
The car costs not just 1.4k per month, but 170k/120+1.4k per month for a basic car, that is 2.7k per month.
@@lsjtonyfor people who bought a car few years ago, it really isn't that expensive (about 1.2k monthly all in) as compared to now. But when the end of COE comes then we gotta rethink
Are you saying that you will fetch your kids, wife and yourself to and from their schools/work everyday? That’s quite a bit of driving and very time consuming to be honest.
Agree totally
@@wennnnn2307 the wait time for grab and taxi's have increased sometimes longer for certain times of day and night and that goes up more on rainy and hot day's. Searching for places to park adds time. But having autos listed as luxury is to inaccurate as handicapped, sick, injured, elderly that moves slow or might fall and be injured, then infants and toddlers with he prams and the bags need to care of them. Having an auto is important and essential. The hygiene is another reason as some of us know that weakened immune systems are another factor and if anyone had surgery that makes having a clean auto very important.
Singapore is actually one of the most environmentally friendly populations in terms of carbon emissions as majority uses public transport and it is something to be very proud of. My Malaysian colleagues told me that for 20m, they'll still drive.
In Singapore, motorcycling are way more practical type of transport actually. I’ve been riding into Singapore many times by Malaysian motorcycle, motorcycles are efficient and far more money saving than public transport.
Ya agree. In Singapore and my point of view, if you are a Solo rider or with additional one more pillion that's the way to go. It will save more money and also travel anywhere you want in a short period of time. The benefit of a motorcycle there is no Jam but only slowness, so the time consume from point A to point B even way shorter. For a second hand motorcycle, on cost average per month with inclusive of all the hidden cost (Insurance + petrol + Installment) likely $600. However, with family a rented car or grab will be financially more accommodating and practical for average house hold.
Should put up a cost chart for car sharing! So that we can compare car sharing vs cab vs public transport.
This is true if there's no handicap family/bed-ridden family member or say, someone with young children that requires special attention. Cost is relative. For a fully abled single person with no extra commitments of course theres no need for a car.
I also felt just like you, a little bit indulgent. But I can't relate to missing looking out through the bus window. Public transport is terrible in Brazil, unfortunately. One thing I try to think about is that at least it isn't me driving a car. It's two people inside a car! If I had to have a vehicle, it would be a car and I'd be the only one in it.
Except rainy days and peak hours, you won't get any cab, or even PHV. And now it rains so often.
All you need is a small space - Well said Jerry 😅
Quite surprised with the choice of interviewees. Seems like they're just her personal friends too.
Wonder if it's that difficult to find someone who grabs everywhere everyday or owns a car lol.
Feel like the video could have benefited from a wider range of interviewees (families, people with disabilities instead of just young adults)
the society at large is bearing the cost of car ownership and subsidising car owners. Public transport should really be give more priority despite what has been uttered all along. The roads surrounding MRT/LRT stations should allow only buses and bikes to enter, most residential areas should assign only one lane per direction for private cars, pedestrian should not be made for more than 10 seconds at every junction.
We could also look into having more traffic light priority for buses (in the Netherlands I've seen traffic lights that immediately change from red to green once a tram approaches it)
focus of this video is all over the place lol
very good documentary. Liked
So I gave up driving, and cab everywhere now. I feel the one cost that people often overlook is the cost depreciation of your car over time. Once you put that into a monthly dollar amount you will get a much better idea of what you're spending when doing your own comparisons
Outram park to East Coast cost about $32-$35 during peak hours😭... I wonder how she get a cab for $17 🤔
Nothing beats having your own car la knn. Take grab/taxi still need to book and wait, so lehchay. With your own car, you can drive anywhere, change venue anytime. Reach a mall to have dinner, too crowded, no problem, change and drive off to another mall, can go to remote places anywhere anytime. The only time when taxi/grab is practical or necessary is 1) When you work in CBD area with too expensive parking, heavy traffic and need to do sales or meet clients all within CBD area. 2) When your car go for servicing/repair/respray, LOL.
Ya lor but is it worth 170k?
@@sumit6190pnot worth it ,might move to malaysia alr 😂😂
You forgot to factor in the time spent queuing to enter or leave the carpark, as well as driving around looking for a parking lot. You'll be surprised how much time one can waste in this. With a cab/grabcar, you just get in/out and you're in the mall/office already. On weekends, 99% of SG malls will have long queues of cars waiting to enter and park. There goes your time saved with a car. The malls with no queues.....got nothing much in them in terms of shops and food also....lol.
With a car, you are restricted to going to places where you can actually park. This means some popular areas without sufficient parkin are already excluded during peak periods. And some people make decisions based on parking rates, which again reduces your freedom. Or you have to park at some ulu point and waste time walking all the way back.
So I would counter that by saying you only really need a car if you are the wishy-washy indecisive kind who needs total freedom to cater to last minute whimps and fancies.
And sometimes, even the MRT is faster than either grap or the car. For example, it is usually much faster to get from Plaza Singapura to Punggol Central via the NEL even during off peak, such that I would turn down lift offers from friends. So it also really depends on where you usually go. It takes me just 15 minutes to get to work by public transport, so I will stick to that. ;)
Should have compared with the car sharing options as well.
Mrt vs grab vs car vs car sharing
How do you take 1.5hr-2hrs from Paya Lebar to woodlands via public transport? Seems like the mrt line was plotted (red and green) it’s abt an 1hr
Travel from the west to anywhere cost like $25 during non-peak hour. Peak can go to $30/$40. Also, waiting time to get somebody to fetch u or drop u to the west is so long.
a key question is how the value of the $$$ spent on taxi or ride hailing? what else can we spend on?
it is a trade-off.
Once said " All you need is small space". says the legend teo
I've either owned a car or a motorbike, or both at the same time, for over 20 years. And I've also relied public transport before. I love cars, I love bikes, and I love both driving as well as riding. But I will never ever buy another car in SG, unless I have a real need for one. And I don't think having kids makes the need for a car real. If one is talking about taking the kids out, infrequent trips to the hospital, grandparents etc, you don't need to have a car 24/7 for that. Even if one needs to send and pick the kids to/from childcare, using a cab twice a day, 5 days a week is still better than owning the car yourself. Those who really need a car are those who need to go to several places in a day, everyday or almost everyday of the week, the wheelchair-bound who has to go to the office or elsewhere everyday, and those who cover at least 100km daily. For everyone else, just call a cab or a private hire car, or rent a car for the day or hours you need. Just because one can afford it, doesn't mean one should have it. There are many other ways to spend your money responsibly.
Maybe next time an entire extended family (across multiple households perhaps) might share a single car with different family members taking turns to use it & all chipping in for its maintenance
try getting a cab or phv during morning rush hour to schools. You cannot compare someone single to families with young and elder.
On top of that, there are people's job which require them to visit multiple locations, meeting clients, therefore, it is incorrect to make a conclusion for everyone!
Own a car in SG = 1% convenience, 99% face.
That's right
That 1% convenience becomes 99% convenience when you actually REQUIRE it. Like needing to travel around to meet clients every day, or needing to ferry kids & elderly, etc.
"What car do you get sent to school in?" "A Mercedes!" *_Points at Citaro at bus stop_*
i used to drive and my expenses per month is easily a few hundreds more and when repair is concern, it could be massive. now i take public tpt and it only cost me $50/mth.
Isn't the carbon emission the same if you drive or cab or rent a car?
Assuming you're referring to the carbon emissions produced during the driving of the car rather than the building/assembly portion of the car's lifetime.
You try grabbing to places that grab and cabs don't want to bring you then you will understand :)
2 hr back and forth from woodlands where got efficient
We have so many improvements in Singapore except the road design and expansion since the 70 - 80s. The road is still the same road ie PIE, CTE, AYE, etc ..., therefore if the population increases the road is still the same, and you will definitely feel the jam, especially during peak hours.
This “cheaper to cab” statement is passe and overly simplistic. Depending on how far you travel, how often you travel and the time you travel, its NOT necessarily cheaper to cab.
Plus anyone who tried booking cab or PHV in ulu areas during peak period when its raining knows its impossible.
A car is still more convenient as you just hope in & drive. If you compare cabbing vs buying a Ferrari or a BMW then of course its cheaper.
But if you compare it to buying a modest korean or japanese brand, it might NOT be cheaper especially if you remember time is also money so good luck getting a PHV or cab during peak period rainy weather.
The MRT would have been fine. Enjoy your days !
It really depends on what’s important to you, isn’t it? As a female driver & owning my own car, I prioritise my time, comfort (coz I have motion sickness, or worse, headache & vomit from bad jerky driving of cab drivers) & convenience (like sleeping in a bit more) than an expensive luxury handbag. If that branded bag is more important to you, then you would buy the bag & take public transport. Nothing wrong with that if you are willing to get up earlier & spend a lot more time on commuting to work. No judgement. But if you are like me, I would rather have one expensive luxury handbag & own the car. Car sharing is a good idea / option and of course much cheaper than owning a car, if you are not OCD like me about cleanliness. We all make our choices according to what we feel is important to ourselves.
Only when you take the cab twice a day and is same distance. Should try take cab go at least 5 times per day. Take cab fetch your child to school and then go work. And so on. But then i do shift work so got the time to keep go here and there. A day out can from home go school drop children then to lucky plaza then to school pick children then back home to pick mum then out to tampines mall. If take cab like this schedule..think not that cheap. Car u can go everyplace without worries like take taxi..you normally limit your trip.
What other millennial problems do you want us to investigate or experiment on next??
Renting vs Buying a house
Renting vs. Owning a home/apartment!
Saving money? Or cutting back drinks when dinning out and only stick to water. That will be interesting I think.
How pet friendly Singapore or Singaporean actually is.
But having two dogs. Public transport and even Grab is not quite possible. For grabpet sometimes a short journey can goes up to $40 or more per trip.
If our government can start allowing pets on MRT only. It will definitely help out a lot.
hahaha i also have two dogs and whenever we go for walks far away / bring them to the pet shop / bring them to the vet, having your own car I feel is the best option. I doubt allowing pets on MRT would be a thing though (unless they always stay in bags - which would be tough for the dogs but also reminds me of the NY rule)
honoured to have been with you on your pimple healing journey, nicole
Nicole says thanks
@@OGS.Official hehehehe
Highly inaccurate. Didn't include other errands and owning a car as a couple. Also the teachers expense didn't account on the trips home.
We may have to change from doing 1 big grocery shopping weekly to doing multiple smaller shoppings weekly (which I heard is done in places like the Netherlands) or else we have too much groceries to carry back home on public transport
I cab everywhere. Approx 2k a month. Some months slightly lower/higher. Still cheaper than owning a car.
Imo, car are really needed for those who goes around to 6-8 locations everyday. Time is an essence and this ppl are trying to get more time out of each day. Imagine if it takes around 1 hr to each location.. 6-8 will be 1/3 of the day gone.
For car owner, 50 dollars may not be enough for us to sit cab as we go multiple trips a day.
Paya lebar to Woodlands definitely is not 1.5 hours to 2 hours. LOLOL
There is this new thing called Circle Line
Car sharing is option but the issue is many issues arise as ppl do not take care it .
cars in gridlock factor has to be considered
Y'all missed the perspective of families who might need a car
Good Video, Nicole!
Would not support riding a bike. It depends on luck whether u are met with a major accident. I myself got into a major one on my way to work 13 years ago. Stopped riding since and my knee still hurts till this day.
I did that exactly wasted $700.00 over that 2 weeks about $50.00 a day 😅😅
But js wake up early take bus/mrt😐 i wake up 530 js to take mrt for straight 3years from Bukit Panjang to semei and its like 1.5hrs+ so u still cn rch class early and is easy to get used to it
Owning a car really depends. If one can afford, by all means get it.
Seedly and many other finance sites have been quoted saying you need a household income of 7-8k to own a car and that is the bare minimum. So you better be earning much more than that to own a car. It is not afford a car. It is to extravagantly purchase one and this is in Singapore context.
I would spend more if I cabbed everywhere.
$6240 on parking and erp. How did you get that figure?
walao paya lebar to woodlands... you got google your way mah.
woodlands to paya lebar 1.5 hours meh!!! its only 56 mins
Thank you Josephine
Thank you Josephine
car ownership to me is judt having freedom
that's really very a piece of cake. teacher are professional jobs, you need to wake up so early 7am! for convenience always book a grab.
2 weeks short term maybe can Grab but long term leh? Owning a car is for own convenience.
Tanah Merah to Woodlands by MRT 1 hout only, dont bs
i should start a flying taxi company
half the salary of a fresh grad is 3.2k??? WHERE?!?!?! DOKO?!?! oh it applies only for the upper end of the spectrum my bad my bad (uni students taking actual majors)
If you are Singaporean women and you read my comment, car isnt worth it. Invest in sunblock protection like unblock uv 100 protect and super super thin but sun repellent fabric. Asian skin wasnt mean to be under too much sun and in SG need to walk. And super strong moisturize and maybe bit chemical for peeling and such. SG women very rich but they cant beat skin aging cos sun damage. I swear 15days i spend in SG make me maybe 3 years older in skin age. SG women fair skin asian.the sun isnt down until 7pm. Most of you like active lifestyle like cycling. There must be a way to reverse aging
A suggestion. Why don't u learn fr Taiwan. Even the ladies dress extremely graceful travel to their offices by mini Vespa motror-bike which look as graceful, time and cost saving?
10:06. Josephine Teo will take umbrage towards this sentence of yours
She took Grab everywhere and wanted us to guess how much she has saved? I took SMRT/Bus 11 everywhere, can she please guess how much I have saved?
This is why we should all have work from home.
If I feel like jumping in and going to Jewel for a late night supper I can. This feeling of empowerment is not something that can be measured by just dollars and cents.
Why not do an episode with the wheelchair uses who only rely on public transport instead of cabs or Grab.
Think good idea, you do lei.
@@iceiceice9489it’s a good idea because it sheds light to people with disabilities who commutes to work via public transport. ESP during peak hours it is definitely more nerve wrecking.
I remember some wheelchair commuters being disappointed at how few some stations' entrances are wheelchair-accessible e.g. Tg Pagar & Raffles Pl MRT used to have only 1/9 of their exits wheelchair-accessible, though that has since increased slightly
Dear young lady, Please be mindful that on the whole S'pore being a very small nation, definitely does not contribute very much to the Carbon Footprint as compared to USA,India, Vietnam, Central and S.America.Indonesia,Thailand and other heavily populated nations. I think the Western nations never point out the fact that our world population is over 8 billion and it's very tough to reduce the carbon footprint realistically- Don't forget poor people in third world countries don't even have enough to eat, let alone thinking of the environment. Look at the 800 US military bases and their military Aircraft-carriers,warships,submarines, military planes etc..etc..etc..military exercises. Please,please do not be bullied or blinded by the rich nations trying to bully others into submission. I
am not against trying to help our planet, But we have to honestly calculate the pollutions brought about by the rich First world countries!!!!!! Besides even EV vehicles need electricity-produced by Power stations...EV batteries productions use lots of energy and actually contribute to environmental poisoning/pollutions etc..etc..etc..MUST ALWAYS LOOK AT THE COMPLETE PICTURE.
Just because other countries are producing more doesn’t negate the fact that we are still contributing significantly as individuals. It is definitely not necessary to drive in SG and we can cut down on a lot of unnecessary emissions just by taking public transport.
💯 people who tout environmentalism never research objectively. Get companies and gov to stop deforestation and promote reforestation.
You didn't need a taxi to prove that, the MRT would have been fine. 😂
The assumption is that you're single. When you're shuttling the family here and there then it adds up.
I still remember back when my father felt that its inconsiderate for us to have children if we can't afford a car, as young children board/alight more slowly & thus hold up other passengers. With only 1/3 of households having cars now, if we applied my dad's logic today, our replacement TFR would skyrocket from 2.1 to 2/(1/3)=6!
bike is cheaper but u do have to take into consideration of medical fee as biker are more prone to accident
Does she knows Singapore has nice subway system?
maybe they should show a family w young children or elderly... all singles...
Just get a COE car? It's only $50 a day which includes everything.
I was watched this video till the end expecting her to show us how much she has saved (I assume its time), in the end she just shows how much money she has spent for the 2 weeks. Very disappointing.
Cmon, do some in depth research... there are electronic vehicles available in singapore... Hence why singapore introduced singapore green plan 2030
So the arguments of contributing carbon emission is invalid
EV is not so environmentally friendly as what you thought. Do you know the damage they had done to the earth sourcing for lithium and cobalt for EV batteries. The so-called green technology like EV actually had done more environmental damages than petrol car.
Felt this EV take is really just virtue signalling or not well researched objectively. Feels a bit of agenda pushing here.
So some urbanists advocate trolleybuses over battery buses
It’s almost as if we all have different wants and needs and ability to pay huh. 😒 Get a car if it makes sense for you
bike is 人包铁
Depend on the area you stay.
she taking cab only right?but the title says 'Grab'...
should compare using between gojek, grab, ryde, and tada, from and to various residential, commercial, tourist attraction locations, as a comparison.
and pls cut the environmental BS lah, no one gives a damn.
so .. how much did you save? it seems you didn’t come to a definite conclusion
Your thinking is way too optimistic, which doesnt work for most of the folks out there. There are more reasons why folks own a car and they dont give you a damn about putting up an argument on the 10 WHYs and waste their time.
$1.6k roughly half a salary of fresh grad?
I stop watching once she said there
Ya it's true what. Actual fact it's higher than 3.2k
@@V.II.3.2k was in 2015 I think
But you own a car got more “seh”
ma, you take grab you don’t own anything ma.
Why you estimated $6240/year for Parking & ERP???
Cab…… it’s phv not cab that you took
Take phv say phv don’t say take taxi
Crazy rich asians
I don’t understand a word
Hmmmm, if got family and young kids how?
first world problems indeed. 😅
irritating clicking sound effect............................................ turn off
Rubbish, having a car is a human right...
IF Public transport is efficient, then ask the politicians to take public transport and not use car lah
why are people still wearing masks in singapore?
Use backside think also know the answer.
Simple, find a bf with a car , settled