Scalloping a Strat Neck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Special thanks to Sergei Khorin for doing the work.
Here is a step by step account of the process.
I'm really enjoying the fretboard now. More video to follow!
This video took me a while to edit! If you could drop a like I would really appreciate it :-D
Cheers!
Sam
I was going to tell you to wear a respirator while sanding rosewood it is really hard on your lungs but I'm smoking a cigarette right now so never mind nobody likes a hypocrite.
Eddie Julian Dude, it's like you had a self contained TH-cam argument. You've done a great service as now, no one else needs to get all triggered and engage in a useless comment war with you. Well done!
still good looking out my friend. to come from a place of caring about someones health is a good thing.
+Luke McPeeters you must be as bored as I am
yea how did I wind up here again?
Skelly
:-) &
trying this on one of my old guitars, great job
How long did it take from start to finish?
How much will you charge for this labored jobs?
"Oh shit, we forgot to paint the fret markers!"
lol
oof rip
Damn, and we forgot how to count too, so we can't just remark them.
I scalloped my neck. I never knew that you could do it to a guitar as well. Hmm ... live and learn.
Dave Morrison I was born with a scalloped neck
Had to miss work that day...
I ate a scallop with a neck today.
You've got an awesome channel, Dave! ❤️
Beautiful work! I have recently started scalloping my fretboards, and I wish that I had done it long ago. Overall playability, bending, vibrato, and tone are all better. I'm shaking my head and laughing at the people saying that the guitar has been ruined. It's ultimately a matter of preference, of course, but scalloping my fretboards has been 100% beneficial, and there have been absolutely ZERO negatives.
Extra jumbo frets are your friends, without ruining your instrument.
@@glassbox7761 Why is it "ruining" because it is in contrast to what you might do? Your one of THOSE people aren't ya? If your preference is different than mine then you are wrong. I can't imagine living life like that. Surely your a miserable person. Lol, you suck.
I'll do it on a PRS SE.
Have you refret a guitar with scalloped neck? How did it go?
If we do it we have to give up on the inlays right?
Thanks for taking the time to video this properly Sam. As ever quality video, let alone the skill and quality of the luthiers work.
Thanks V! Hope all is good your end buddy!
this is more like LOWERING the fretboard than creating a nice scoop that curves towards the very middle of the fret space. but thanks for the video! I think protecting the frets is important (like you did here) because no matter how careful you are, accidents are going to happen.
@TruthSurge exactly! I was thinking the same thing! Where's the fretboard?
@@luisantoniocoello well, I think he did a good job. I think I was looking for a little bit more shallow scalloping and it looks deep but I still see some fretboard in there so it's prob just my expectations that were causing me to comment as I did. I plan to do this to a neck and I wish I had a good way in mind but I guess just sanding using a round tool is best. Go slow and do it right the first time.
I agree, with a more gradual scoop, the fretboard markers would probably have been preserved as well. Doesn't affect playability of course, but it looks more pleasing (at least to me) with the fretboard markers intact on a strat.
How do you scallop a guitar neck?
Start with potatoes and work your way up.
never seen anyone work so fast, amazing!
Downhill Phil He used a brand new performance enhancing drug called Meth.
man I want green fretwire
A spindle sander would get there a lot faster and with more consistency. Save the Dremel for finishing work.
True, that could be a far superior method if t you also made a jig to keep it from pulling towards the fret, and also had plenty of different sizes to accommodate the different fret spacings. But the more I think about it, you would also then need to remove the frets because the radius wouldn't work out otherwise. Personally, I would do this type of work using only hand tools, but not many people know how to properly use or even sharpen them these days.
@@aylbdrmadison1051 I did this with 80 grit sandpaper. It was fucking excruciating.
I dont know how much files cost, but they're worth it.
What is the machine that he is using called?
@@hunterea0525 a dremel
I'd scallop a 58 Les Paul if I had one
Would be nice to have some explanation of the process.
11:50 is oiling the Fretboard? Is that lemon oil? Tung oil?
What's the stuff that's applied at 13:08? Touching up with (water based?) paint?
13:30 what's being applied there? More oil?
Same thing I thought
Maybe boiled linseed oil?
The clear material is very likely mineral oil -any pharmacy will sell it as a laxative...cheap :)
Great vid. Looking forward to seeing it in action!
Thanks mate! I'll post some stuff real soon!
i'll just probably do this on my $30 Yamaha Pacifica
Now both guitars have the same value
@@glassbox7761 scalloping doesn’t decrease value and the joys of a strat are you can easily swap the neck.
Think I would have bought a new neck rather than butcher the one that came with the guitar.
that didn't look "butchered" to me... came out pretty nicely.
profmartin1967 the result is actually really good
I get what you're sayin. Valid point.
Yes ,looks great ,not butchered at all !
Sam, it would be fantastic if, when you're used to the new frets, you'd make a video of yourself talking about the new possibilities and limitations that it gave you as a player and if you think it was worth it. I myself am considering to switch to scalloped frets. Unfortunately, I have yet to find the opportunity to try a guitar with a scalloped neck. The idea of having more control over your bends and vibrato sounds very appealing though, almost too good to be true. And there's little detailed information to be found on the internet! Please help this bedroom guitarist out!
Much love,
Bryan
I haven't tried one either, but many of these things are just personal preferences. Nothing will make you a better player except practice.. I think someone with the level of technique as sam could say there's a huge difference between a scallpoed and normal neck, but for a player who's still in the battle to get up there, i don't think it matters very much :P
baksteen123 Scalloped necks make bending and vibrato a tad easier and everything else a tad more difficult.For example having no wood as a safety net anymore you can go out of tune if you press the string too hard especially at the first 3 to 5 frets.....thats why even playing chords may be more challenging for some simply because they press too damn hard.All the other elements of playing are pretty much the same....no it wont make you go faster(maybe a hair slower) or make your sweeps easier or or or...things you hear perpetuated.
Scalloped fretboards look sexy,make control of the string during bending and vibrato easier and give you an overall great feel of playing on...air.Nothing more nothing less.....in my view they teach you the proper touch on the instrument cause you can play a scalloped neck and then a regular one without a problem but...the opposite isnt always the case if your technique sucks.
baksteen123 I've have one scalloped neck. They help me get my fingers more perpendicular to the board (when required) without my nails contacting wood as my nails connect at the very tips of my fingers, this is with my nails totally trimmed off. This helps (me) with gripping the string when pulling towards the floor, among other things. Pix of Yng show that his nails are similar, so I think that's why he likes scalloped. But for me tall frets provide as much of this feature that I require, so that's how I roll.
Ive tried 1....amazing! Easy bending, and vibrato.... No more bleeding fingers.... Or scraping your nails on the wood 😫.... Although I would go for more shallow scallops than deep bottomless ones...
Saw a floyd rose, your opinion is automatically invalid, have fun tuning after breaking a string bozo
When vivaldi winter starting playing in the background I was like 😩😩
That may be the worst possible tool for scalloping a fretboard. If you insist on using a power tool then a spindle sander with a few different diameter tubes would be fast and accurate. The safest and best way is to use a set of half round files and rasps.
r.i.p. strat
+Jaden Styla I really only don't like seeing the whole fret board scalloped, I can see the appeal of some small ones above the 12th fret. I like when they use files too, it feels like it all comes along a little better
+Nira Machina Naah..on the contrary....a scalloped strat with stainless steel frets has probably the best playability a guitar can have.Scalloping provides with superior bending and vibrato feel..combine that with well polished ss frets that are smooth as fuck and you really cant do better...at least for a player that actually has a decent touch and isnt just a banger.
its okay Yngwie will use it. oh wait its not yellow. r.i.p strat
Go Play one. Scalloped is nice. I think this one may be a little too far.
No dont urge him to play one....he is one of those folks who think the string actually touches the fingerboard in regular boards too let alone scalloped ones....leave him be....he might be one of those flat earthers too.....
I scalloped mine with some coarse sand paper, its really fast and accurate that you dont need to cover the frets with masking tape.
He scalloped that WAAY too deep.
I was just thinking, after guitar is tuned and you bend the strings all the way down to the scalloped feet, wouldn't the notes be off tuned?
@@JaredDeinlein Scalloped fretboards are for unbelievably light touch. You have to put just enough pressure to make the strings touch the frets. more than that, yes, gets sharp.
The goal of extra jumbo frets and scalloped fretboards is to get wood out of the way so you don't ever touch it while playing.
Did one like this with sanding wheels on a dremel....be very careful around the frets......it will create a nightmare. I would use a file next to the frets if I did it again. It's fine to use the dremel for the middle.
You'll feel the string catching the sides of the frets if you get them too scored up.
some are higher some lower...poor and lazy work! some nice files and some messuring and marking and all turns out perfect....but this? thius is just BS.....
the music makes the video so intensive to watch,and sanding rosewood without wearing a mask makes it more frightening.
Excellent video. If however, one is interested in eventually selling the instrument (assuming it is American made) one might consider using an aftermarket fretboard and saving the Genuine Fender fretboard for the sale of the instrument. Otherwise, this instrument has become permanently devalued. Just ask anybody who has drastically modified their 1962 Fender Strat.
I don't like it. Change it back.
Lolz noobs it's a bolt on neck, not hard to get a stock one, a scalloped neck is way premium compared to a stock fender!! Nice hand work sir!
Don't you mean nice handy work? Nice handwork sounds a bit sexual.
Did someone mention handjobs? im up for it
Came out pretty good, when I did my necks, I followed the the radius of the fret board... it leaves just a little more meat on the fretboard to help keep it stable, somethin ta ponder for the next one. Feels great though huh? Very nice.... enjoy my friend.
I cringed so fucking hard
watching this while i cook Its like the best program ever... that music, so warmfull
Great show -- but how do you replace the fret markers once you've sanded them away?
Mark Norris you really dont you just learn to play without them or get fret inlay stickers to put on
Yngwie Malmsteem wants to know your location
Fingerboard edges could do with rolling. They look a bit sharp in the center of the scallop to me.
By bending the string farther down, wouldn't that change the note?
Jared Deinlein ...yes it also happens to a nonscalloped neck...
you aren't supposed to push down that hard generally... the point is to make it so your fingers don't drag on the wood...
Love the classical sound track.
I would like to try a scalloped neck, but I'm not sure how easy a refret would be on one!
A video of pure artwork. Thanks for sharing and also, thanks for the music, needed for seeing this.
Fender s neck is almost unuseful device ,sacalloped even worse....the body is good guitar.....never do....Malmsteen is mad....
wow very uneven :(.... I've always used masking tape as depth gauge and def left a bit more of a plateau around the frets so they hold better :) I pity the fool that will have to refret it after this callop :P
Beautiful work. I however was a little disappointed that the fret dots were not put back on
I really like videos where it's all about building or modding guitars
Even though this nothing I would ever use, well done. It looks very cool!
I got distracted when I was reading something and now I'm watching some dude scallop his fretboard.
Is scalloping the neck really much different from having wide and super high frets? And if it is, why not make fret wire a few mm higher then the current tallest fret stock? Wouldn't that achieve the same effect? i.e. the fingers don't connect with the fingerboard.
ahaha, nice... I havnt seen a scalloped fretboard in calgary...ever! So I just made one myself...and now I run into this! \m/\m/
This is a demonstration that the "neck's radius" is an absolute FALSE MITE. The neck's radius have a sense in the "bowed" instruments. Any CLASSIC guitar that can cost dozen of thousand of $ have his fretboard, simply FLAT. The problem, in the 90% of the cases is NOT in the guitars caratheristics, but in the GUITARISTS Level: in the world the 90% of the guitarists are of ZERO level. the 6% are of MEDIUM GRADE and only the 4% is in the PROFESSIONAL-ARTIST'S GRADE....
Wow he did a great job Sam! I was also just wondering is that the original floyd from that guitar? I noticed the massive saddles and big brass block haha
Putting a Floyd Rose set up on a Strat is the perfect finishing touch! This is why I play Ibanez...
Great video. Thanks for posting this. Is there anyway to put new fret markers on after scalloping the fretboard?
What did he use to clean and rehydrate the wood? Looks like it was just a good mineral oil. With all the “specialty” fretboard oils out there on the market, I think just a good mineral oil is all you need. Or boiled linseed oil.
For those who are complaining.. 1st. It's all preferences. 2nd. You see it's a strat with a Floyd Rose, a scalloped fretbaord is a perfect match for shredders, maybe that's what he's going for. Also, why the fuck does no one talk shit about Yngwie's strats? Leave people alone ffs, you play your own funk chords or whatever you want with your vintage feeling strat, and let the man shred his guitar. The guitar stock can be a masterpiece, but what's the point if it doesn't play right for you?
How to refret it would be a next question that no one is talking about
I'm surprised though I shouldn't be to see some of the negative self righteous everybody has to only like what I like kind of comments. If you don't want a scalloped neck then why'd you even waist your time here ? He didn't ruin the neck just cause you don't like it.
Good work, but what about the missing dots?
Look on the side of the fretboard. Those are still there
I see Sergei is using air powered tool. For a Dremel, is there a bit similar to this,, I reckon I could. This beats the hell out of filing I would think...
You should be crazy to let a russian carpenter touch such an instrument. Everything is still in dust and he begins finishing with oil, shit man. Just have a look how many fingers does he have, it says everything about his prifessionality.
He did one hell of a job on that! Have always loved the idea of scalloping the neck of my strat but have never plucked up the courage!
"scalloping the neck"
And why would you want to do that?
@@NostalgiaforInfinity because it plays awesome. And no Dunlop 6000 alone does not replicate the feel.
I once player a guitar that was scalloped. Absolute junk. Could not keep my playing in tune. What a shame to ruin a neck like that. You have the skills to do this job but you should have tried to talk whoever this guitar belongs to - out of it!
Absolutely terrible... you should never use power tools. The point is to bring the fretboard away from the fingers, no real point to go further than that. Usually a mm on the bass side and 1.5 mm on the treble side. It depends on how fleshy your fingers are but a half of a mm more should do it if you have sausage fingers...
bloody hell, you completely filed way the inlay dots? I've been scalloping frets for years and never have to file down as deep as that to completely file away the inlay dots, that is not necessary at all, you only need to file down a few mm from the middle of each fret and gradually concave the file work. that is some scatty work my friend. i don't use electric dremel tools, mines all file work.. i wouldn't recommend your scalloping to anyone, sorry mate just would not..
I've been playing guitar for 25 years. I still have no fucking clue what the point of a scalloped fret board is.
Scalloped Frets Freehand? i thought that would be more engineered and mathmatical. I could be wrong.
so he just did what cost over $300 in just about 20mins. this is why pawnshops r a guitarist' best friend, u can get cheapass guitars and experiement all u want. so now i just need the tools....can someone tell me what tools i need or atleast the ones in this video
I love scallop necks I scallop my own necks
I shall attempt soon.... So watching and studying every video.... Which technique do you recommend?
Alot of haters out there who probably have never even played a scalloped neck, if you set the strings as low as possible and you play with a light touch, they play like a dream. I'll never own a gutiar without a scalloped neck.
What a horrific butcher job to do to a beautiful Strat. I can barely watch this and can't imagine why anybody would ask you to do that.
Nobody needs a scalloped neck. What was Malmsteen thinking?
Very nice work, man. Enjoyed the piece played throughout video. Thanks!
How about a 22 fret Stratocaster neck? is the last one really doable?
A guitar is not ruined with a scalloped neck. All necks were scalloped before fret wire was invented. The wood itself were the frets before we had fret wire
Amazing! Makes me really wanna do it now but I may do it differently
Wouldn't it be easier to buy a scalloped mighty mite fender licensed neck?
looks like that would be uncomfortable to play like that, I don't know is it?
Great video! Sergei is a talented man and as talented people naturally do, especially when talent is backed by years of experience, he's made this look deceptively easy! I've never scalloped a fretboard, but I imagine one of the first mistakes people make is getting too close to the frets and not leaving enough wood on either side to securely hold the fret in place, which probably means "game over" for that particular neck.
You wrote "Here is a step by step account of the process," but the step-by-step account of the process would be where?
nice tools, i did it with just hand tools, fucked up all the frets lol, well, first time isnt always perfect...
A great video. From which company is this conical tool?
The title should say scalped strat neck. Too much wood was removed and the dot inlays are gone.
id do it to a squire, or MIM.
Very nice results mate! fuck everyone that says otherwise
Then just add the Fender licensed waterslide decals and clear the headstock
No depth guide or radius profiles; all done freehand by eye and feel!
Next a violin project video with electric hard rock guitar music!
Nice! What did he paint on that was brown? Wood stain?
that is a really damn nice strat to be DIY-ing. especially freehand with a dremel. must have a lot more money than me. i wouldnt be risking the damage on that, id be scalloping a cheapo. must be awkward to walk around with lime-sized balls all the time.
Blah Blahsen the thing is.. when your someone who diys a guitar, you dont mind having to replace a neck if you mess up.
Blah Blahsen That's not a Dremel. It's a Foredom or Foredom-type flex shaft rotary tool. It is a professional grade tool. For someone who is a skilled professional, what he did with that Foredom is nothing special. It's just another day at the office.
He's obvs done it before and knows what he doin mayan..
The only thing that should ever be scalloped, are potatoes.
this gonna sound stupid but wath is the beatifull song that i can hear in the video?
Couldn't you just use a drum sanding bit to get a more consistent curvature with much less work?
Tyler Marney: when Chip Foose tunes a car, he doesn´t use any ruler to put the vynil lines on the chasis, he does it by eye. That´s when you reach an upper level of artistry.
very cool, but he went a bit too deep. even the Yngwie strats aren't that dug in
Vivaldi always makes me feel great!
Nice job. What about the inlays?
That was really interesting, I can't wait to see you play it!
Why scallop a guitar with big frets?
11:41 Man, this is so delightful to see!
Nice Job ........... want to point out ..... Blackmore only scalloped up to the D string on his guitars ...... E and A were left untouched
I didn't know that. I scalloped all my own necks but did it the hard way with files and sandpaper. Now im spoiled and cant hardly play a gutiar unless its scalloped
All it needs now is a new fretboard and new frets...
Did you miss playing without the dots?
video de como arruinar una pieza de instrumento..