The Entire History of The Honkai Universe REACTION
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Cy Yu Finally got around to reacting to the entire history of the Honkai Universe.
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That's hell you're walking into
Truer words have never been spoken.
I think it's already too late to warn him
Nah, the True Hell are the People.
True
*Ubw last stardust plays*
This is just barely BARELY the tip of the iceberg
Yup lmao. 😂
Yeah
SOOO TRUE.
And still going
Did they even mention the legend of saha?
21:20 cannot believe no one just mentioned that SW has said Welt keeps mistaking her for someone else, making it VERY obvious that we're SUPPOSED to think it is a reference to Bronya or indirectly Bronie.
Does she say that in her character story or voicelines?
@@tite93 voicelines from when she visits the train
@@SolaceZero right, I haven't seen her in ages on the train, gotta watch out for those
Not really mistake her for someone, she just noticed that Welt kept giving glances at her. Clearly showing that he sees young Bronya in her since the Bronya Zaychik we have now is all grown up.
I don't know if Welt ever met Bronie, but probably not?
As a honkai lore nerd, it brings me a little bit of nostalgia seeing new people getting into the hell-hole that is the honkai lore. i always die laughing
Same, being always deep within their scatter lore that separated into multiple media, kinda my fav thing to do but also not because it certainly not newcomer friendly.
its kind of fun searching to the deep corners to see crumbs of lore tbh i was having a bit of a hard time finding the old visual novels b4
Yeah I don’t know about Honkai lore but it reminds of when people start getting into lore like Kingdom Hearts or better yet *KIRBY LORE*
The honkai lore is just so confusing to me but I want to understand it and get everything. But goddamn they did a world building that is enormous
To summarize the Bronya/Silverwolf situation:
SW is based on Haxxor Bunny (aka Bronie), which is an alternate universe version of Bronya from HI3. Which makes SW an alternate version of an alternate version of Bronya. This connection is implied by SW's trailer, as you see her playing HI3, and specifically as Bronie.
In JP they do share the same VA, but not in EN dub.
In Star Rail Bronya and Silver Wolf are different people that have nothing to do with each other. But the characters they were each based on are alt. Universe versions of each other.
He was in such denial lmao.
To summarise all of that in a single word: expy
@@FrenchDinosaurTBF, chat is often terrible at explaining what they mean
Also, they look alike canonically, not just a "same actor" situation.
Welt's dialogue confirms this.
@@Assasin2 streamers often speak with confidence even if they're knowledge about the topic is subpar too. Basically, we see here how dumb + dumb can have a coherent conversation but communicate literally nothing to each other.
The problem with walking into the Honkai rabbit hole is that it gives you more questions than it does answers; that's how they get you.
When you hop into honkai lore, you suddenly find yourself becoming an astrophysicist and quantum physicist
my eye was lowkey twitching when someone called the cacoon of finality the IX from hsr and everyone was just agreeing
Ikr, I get the hype of connecting things...
But come on they are so different
Like the name of Cocoon of Finality
It's a literal hard shell, like a cocoon
Meanwhile HSR already shows designs of IX, and its quite literally Slime blob. Like an existence that completely lost meaning hence melting and losing shape.
It's so different...
That's like saying oil and water is the same thing
Coccoon*
@@ekkusu9493 Cockoon
Its the _ @ _ shape.
For the Silverwolf and Bronya dilemma, simple answer will be "they are variants"...... But the long answer is:
Just as Homu explained, Hoyo likes to use the multi-universe theology, and the possibilities of branching timelines, where the same person exists, but are different in experience and situations. Bronya is the default character of Honkai, Bronie is Bronya but in a sense of "what if her situation is different". She had a different life, different environments, but is still Bronya.
Now for HSR, this is the exact same situation for Bronya Rand and Silverwolf. Silverwolf is basically Bronya born in a different world. Note that Welt explained this during Loucha's Story quest. He knew of Otto and Void Archives, so he instantly became suspicious of Loucha (and his gut feeling was actually correct)
Isn't Void Archives somewhere in the HSR universe having traveled with Welt? I'm nearly certain I've heard that more than once, and he's also in Welt's splash art. I wonder if he'll ever turn up.
@@0v_x0 He is.. Loucha also mentioned about VA
@@0v_x0 You can get a good idea of Void Archives current location by playing through or watching A Post Honkai Odyssey. Honestly I never finished part 2 so I don't know where it's at now, but void archives is still around as far as I can recall. However, I don't know if he left the planet or for what reason, especially since he yoinked Welt specifically to show him the Sky People (anti-matter legion) were doing some fuck shit.
@@0v_x0 Not confirmed, but considering how Welt was found by the Astral Express with a "friend", and Void Archives being the only "Otto variant" flashed during Loucha's quest, yeah, we can assume he is in HSR
@@0v_x0 If we go by the Alien Space manga, Void Archive is definitely still around, because Welt and Void Archives are supposed to go back to their original universe together at the end of the Star Rail storyline. If I remember correctly, though, in Alien Space it is stated that their Star Rail journey lasted for 3 years, so that part of the manga might be getting retconned soon.
SW is 100% a alternate Bronya. She plays as Bronie during her trailer and she has Dialogue with Welt giving her funny looks due to the resemblance, and considering Welt is Bronya's mentor there is good reason. Silverwolf was also Bronya's codename as a child soldier in HI3.
Herrscher of Reason.. HAH!!
Sorry, had to be done.
Also, finally someone realizing the codename! Been thinking it ever since we got introduced to Silverwolf :D
Tbh i think sharing a voice actor is a good point for character variants. It happens very consistently in the hoyo games.
As far as cn and jp vas go you have Mei, Ei, and Acheron, Kiana and Unknown God, Himeko, Bronya and Silverwolf, Otto and Luocha, and probably quite a few more.
And there is potentially a brand new example of this too in the Acheron myriad celestia with Kevin.
Yeah I feel if both CN and JP have characters sharing a VA for certain characters, there’s likely a reason for that. EN will sometimes try and do this, but often it comes down to “different studios in different areas of the country all work differently so it’s often not possible to get the same person”
Hanser didn't voice Bronya HSR. In HSR, she only voiced Silver Wolf.
@@raibyo instead, they had Raven/Keqing voice the big one instead
@@raibyo I'm only going off other peoples claims so this could DEFINITELY be wrong, but apparently that was cause she "couldn't voice adult characters"??
There's also Alhaitham with his JP actor which is different, but Takahiro got into a cheating scandal around the same time from what I know?
Time to check out the legendary Honkai animated shorts
*Hi3 flash backs *
@@OwODemon666 *Final lesson ptsd flashbacks intensify*
The emotional damage he's about to get is crazy
@@JavenJC69 My bucket of HI3rd related tears have been running dry lately so that would be just in time
@@garethcf1016 The emotional pain fuels us captains
21:05 "that doesn't work chat" oh please, you've been convinced with less. raiden mei, acheron and ei have the same japanese VA, same with heavenly principles along with kiana. we literally have nothing more for those besides character designs and voices
update: we got a confirmation on acheron. we hit the bullseye on the mei variant
Right?
And SW is literally the same looks as Bronie that is based off Bronya.
At the end. Bottomline, expy..nth more nth less.
Counterparts in different worlds that have nth to do with each other. Until they decided to
considering English dub is a new thing since Genshin to the honkai verse I don't think saying it can't count because it's not the same as CN and JP because when someone is casted as a variant of for example Raiden the VA still uses a consistent tone of voice familiar with the original Mei.
I remember repeating the intro of Genshin multiple times because a few friends that played Honkai said the sustainer looks like she could be Genshin Kiana but since there was no confimed VA at the time and she sounded nothing like Kiana that can't be confirmed (yet). One case of completely different character but same VA is Ayato, he indeed shares voice with Otto but he isn't an Otto variant. The real Otto variant is probably one of the fatui or the descenders.
not sure if you know by now that unknown god has the same va as kiana in cn and jp
Oh! well shid guess I'm not as familiar with Kugimiya as I thought I was when looking up this.
My assumption there is different studio, different audition regardless whenever VAs conceptually drove into Honkai-verse or not. We couldn't say such things especially on Formosa (Genshin's current studio)
I think the Otto variant in Genshin is... Dainsleif
@@bagashafiizm6185 I've seen people say Dain is a bit of a Kevin, and I could see that. Though I'm not caught up on the lore and story, to really have a concrete opinion.
the cocoon of finality IS NOT IX, IT IS THE FINALITY
As a veteran captain, good luck trying to analyze the lore in one sitting
o7
Impossible I 1 sitting. I got my 1st hi3 lore exposure through Chinese fanfiction. then yt, then game
@@ehasanulhoque2943 by Chinese fanfic you mean...
@@shanedoesyoutube8001You'll be surprised on how many anime fanfictions are there in Chinese websites
And most of them could reach hundreds of chapters
It is not possible to do so!
The Full Lore of the Honkaiverse would take 1 sitting.. with a "few" extra 0s-
bro this doesn’t even cover HALF of what hi3rd is about, you gotta play the game
Made me think of Gigguk with the Fate universe:
"This IS the short version"
Yup it's the short version as he did not mention Elisian relm
If you are interested in diving deeper, it is highly recommended to at the very least watch Homu Labs' other video regarding the terminology and translations, called "why is the honkai series so confusing?!" (it does contain spoilers though, but not much this one didn't already spoil I think)
It makes a huuuuuge difference in understanding the Universe.
If you want to get into Honkai Impact 3rd, a story guide can also be a huge boon to the experience. The Hoyostans Story Guide is one we've made that covers just about everything we could find that's either of some importance, or just really neat. Many people going into HI3 miss the part where there are story essential manga, massive lore bomb Visual Novels, super cool extra animations and even short anime, etc.
Yeah, this is why many shows that expand on the cosmology. Tend to create random made up terms of their own, unique to their own.
That way, it isn't hindered by language differences
Like they call it boy123 and girl123.
That way when made to localisation, this makes sure that the terms are never mixed up.
To be fair, Silver Wolf is a codename (or perhaps a name Elio gave her). Kinda like how Blade's real name is Yingxing. (In fact many characters are not actually called by their real name Topaz's name is Jelena, Aventurine is his 'Gemstone' codename. March forgot her name, Acheron isn't even her real name, ect.)
Silver Wolf doesn't actually have a legal name. She's definitely a Bronya expy (Bronie to be exact but she's literally a Bronya expy in captainverse) but that doesn't necessarily mean she's Bronya, even if they share VAs. Like how people don't say Raiden Ei is Mei or Yae Sakura is Yae Miko.
_Honkai_ is a very deep rabbit hole, and what complicates things the most is how Mihoyo uses 'unreliable narrator,' with the result that players learn about its world at the same rate, and the same way, the characters do. So we know what people like Otto, Einstein, and Chenxue tell us about the world. Seeing the Honkai as a way for the Imaginary Tree to test the worthiness of worlds growing on it for its energy isn't 100% right or wrong, so this understanding leaves some gaps. It is, however, a fact that Otto was able to create new branches of timelines where the possibility existed for his love, Kallen, to live. Similarly, it is a fact that Welt Yang and Void Archives traveled from _HI3_ to _HSR_ . Canonically, unlike how Fischl and Keqing (or Asuka) ended up on _Hyperion_ , and Rozaliya ended up with Paimon. But it's not easy to travel between universes, or Welt would be able to do it casually, so he could visit his wife and adopted son on the regular, while also protecting Himeko from sharing her fate with the one he knows.
Homu Labs kind of glossed over the fact that over the course of _HI3_ 's story, we visit various bubble worlds and meet versions of characters we know in them: Bronya herself travels through several as Welt tests whether she's a worthy successor, and she looks for Seele. The Captainverse is this in spades. Durandal's and Rita's missions in the Sea of Quanta. Part 1.5, _A Dance of Life and Death_ , takes place almost entirely in a set of bubble worlds. Finally, Part 2 takes place in two bubble worlds adjacent to Mars, Langqui and Oxia, which used to be sections of a much larger city. As this takes place on a whole different planet, we have yet to encounter any familiar-looking variants, and might not ever do so, unless they're variants of Part 2 characters. Anyway, bubble worlds in the Sea of Quanta vary in size, but generally they tend to be fairly small, from several city blocks to Su's little hill. They are rarely entire worlds if they have already fallen into the Sea of Quanta or Sea of Data, as a result of being absorbed into them. Bubble worlds on the Imaginary Tree, like those containing the Honkaiverse games, tend to be much larger, with _Genshin_ 's containing its world... but as we just said, _HI3_ has us visiting many other bubble worlds, so it's not merely contained to one leaf or branch. Similarly, _HSR_ has us traveling across and into other solar systems on the Astral Express, so it can't just be one leaf or branch either. Many possibilities exist because of these parallel and different worlds.
As to Silver Wolf, I still tend to think of her as being the same Bronie from the Captainverse stories: she has a lot of the same gestures and other mannerisms, and while her attitude seems to have changed a bit (she sees everything as a game with the result she wants to get as much out of life as possible), she seems to carry herself in much the same way. And she is older. The biggest hint that she might be Haxxor Bunny is that at the end of her event, while standing with Kafka on Punklorde, she mentions that she once lost her homeworld. Since she's on Punklorde itself, that means Silver Wolf is not a native Punklordian, and she's instead referring all the way back to what happened in the Arc Light City Blues event that introduced Bronie in the Captainverse, and how she had to leave her original bubble world to survive. That or the prequel Shattered Dimension, which explained the collapse of her actual birth dimension, and how an alien rescued her and dropped her off at Raven's place. Either way. she lost two worlds she saw as her home. She also left the Captainverse _Hyperion_ , which as far as we know, might still be wandering in the Sea of Quanta. How and why she left, we don't know yet. But she must've gone to Punklorde sometime after to learn the _Aether Editing_ skill, and she seems to have traded in her Seeker Drones and P-90s for a cool new weapon as well. And then she fell in with the Stellaron Hunters. By her comments on the Astral Express, it seems possible she could have become a Nameless if she had met the Crew first instead, but she says she's had her fill of wandering -- which would be true if she had been with Captain's _Hyperion_ first. By her view, she's just playing the game.
A note to the "genshin is not part of Honkai". Genshin wasn't called "genshin" in the beginning, it was called honkai too.. but they wanted to apply for (I don't remember what) and having only one IP was against it.. to they use another name to kinda "feel" they had 2 IPs.. but genshin was thought as a honkai game and it's part of the universe as said by the devs multiple times.
Yeah, Cai (and people can hate him all they like for how he mistreated early Honkai and all of Genshin, this is a company statement) literally says in an interview that the company's goal is to develop the Honkai universe, which GGZ, HSR and Genshin are a part of, too (something I wish was more obvious for people). If Genshin wasn't part of Honkai-verse, it wouldn't fucking be on the Imaginary Tree or at least within reach of 2nd Divine Key and Otto wouldn't have been able to see Dvalin on the screen, same for Fallen Rosemary (just bc it has nothing to do with main story, doesn't make it not canon, which applies to other Hoyo IPs and Captain-verse in relation to each other).
If you want any info related to acheron's trailer, GGZ has 70,033 herrschers, and HI3rd has 12 herrschers besides origin and finality (end)
Correction only 70 herrsherr and that was in Era zero because of Dr MEI
Silverwolf was Bronya's codename during her time as an assassin, and yes, this was before the main story of HI3.
Welcome to the rabbit hole that is the honkaiverse
The forbidden knowledge that plagued Teyvat
Honkaiverse lore
@@shanedoesyoutube8001you joke but that's most likely what it is.
Beating a dead horse, but Bronya before joining St Freya, worked for Honkai impact version of Cocolia, as a child assassin known as Silver Wolf
Cy Yu scoffing at the name “Sky People” when Warhammer 40K has the name “Angron” to someone who’s always very angry….or the legendary “Lion El Johnson”.
You have to watch the explanatory video about history in HI3 because there will be more explanations about the world in HI3
I can't believe this cy yu finally reacted to honkai!
i'm so happy!🎉
As an HI3 player who joined in probably a couple months after the game was released in the US, I am really enjoying Cyyu's reactions to the different connections HI3 players have spotted for years! It's awesome seeing genuine surprise and excitement about how broad the lore is for the Hoyoverse!
Solver wolf IS another Bronya.. you saw it xD It's based of Bronie (the capitanverse Bronya) wich is a hacker. Also Bronya from the main story is an assassin and her assassin name is 'Silver wolf'
Love your content, and your VA work. I really need to try to tune into some of your streams. It brings me a lot of joy to see you playing and enjoying the games you voice in, and actually wanting to dig into the lore and history. Keep up the great work!
Ayyyy you're reacting to Homu Labs?! *Sweet!*
Really hope we see you react to more Honkai Impact 3rd content in the near future and I really hope you try the game soon as well. It's insanely good. 🔥
2 weeks into Hi3 & it's story and I had absolutely zero regrets about starting it. *The emotional trauma is very real.* 😭
About time for this, and im not just talking about you getting into hi3 content, i'm talking about you watching a Homulabs video, seriously, in terms of lore telling channels of all hoyo games is just the best❤❤❤❤❤
Silver Wolf and the young Bronya from HI3 looks very much alike, not just a "same actor" situation, but canonically. So does the Jarilo-VI Bronya and the older Bronya from HI3, Luocha and Otto Apocalypse and the two Himekos, this is confirmed from Walt's dialogue.
To be more specific - the Jarilo-VI Bronya looks similar to Silverwing Bronya
I hope you dive deeper into the lore! Sounds like you're enjoying the experience so far! Haha. I would love to see your reactions to the HI3 animated shorts.
and this is why i love honkai...its might sound convoluted....because it is...but more deep you dive in the more you understand and that makes it feel like you are learning about actual breathing world.almost none other game makes me more immersed then honkai does
Loved the video @CYYUVODS! Can't wait for the next video man! If you also look at the Shattered Sword on the Astral Express, you'll see that It's Sutyr (Himeko's Sword in Honkai Impact 3rd), implying (at the very least) that Item's from one Universe may be able to maintain their momentum in Time and Space to come up somewhere else in the Imaginary Tree!
As I said, it's merely Implied as the Last you see of Himeko in Honkai Impact 3rd is Chapter 29 when she Locks herself in an Area of the Ship that was breached by the Honkai and basically Sacrificed Herself to save everyone onboard, including her fellow Valkyries like Bronya. So, it's implied that Himeko Died and was lost to the Sea of Quanta, with Sutyr possibly breaking only for the Shards to maintain their momentum to later come up in Honkai: Star Rail.
Let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in your next video man! For a lot of what I know about Honkai Lore, I just listen to Mina Aoyama, hence why I know about Chapter 29!
As you mentioned its a video that makes you want to dive in more. I will say that Homu's terminology video is probably the most helpful (or at least it was for me). It gets to the root issue that as EN players we are getting a localized version of the story and the teams doing the localization in each of the games aren't fully consistent (understandably so) in the terminology of the translations.
The Welt one is a must watch
It's like fate, everyone asks where the fuck do I start and you just pick one of the cliffs and throw yourself off it in search of understanding what the actual hell is going on.
As someone who has actually played all the other Hoyo games, and someone who loves the lore of the Honkaiverse, knowing the deep lore of the games makes it really fun when you see how each game is connected. Even little references in Star Rail's 2.1 story, to HI3, have been amazing. Makes me really happy to see all their games expand and connect with each other on different levels
Bronya Rand is the mirror universe version of bronya zychik, like how everyone else in hsr is, but silver wolf is bronya zychik either from the hi3 universe when she used to hop through bubble universes, (since time isn’t exactly reliable) or it is bronya zychik from a different part of the imaginary tree. Remember silver wolf has the power to edit reality, which means she most likely has acces to travel through different realities, aka universes or bubble universes, just like briny zychik used did.
hahaha love the reaction, i felt the same the first time i saw Homu's vid
for anyone wondering Bronya went by the moniker 'Silver Wolf of the Urals' in some of the manga
If anyone wants more details the gist is that after second eruption there was pretty much a civil war in Siberia,
a friend of Bronya's father was a sniper known as the Silver Wolf who then went on to take care of her and pass the title to her after she was orphaned!!!
I can't wait for your future reactions on homulabs content
it's always fun/funny seeing people discover HI3 and even earlier Hoyo lore.
Hahaha this is like a introductory or story of the hoyoverse video instead a lore related one, but HomuLabs makes great videos, would be great to watch more to sumarise and understand the lore a bit more
Irminsul is a world tree of teyvat, while imaginary tree is a tree of the honkai universe
Also to add onto what you were saying about luocha, he is somethjng called the void archives, which is pretty much a physical copy of otto, with different lore. The void archives and welt Yang both traveled into the hsr galaxy together in a manga.
Honestly, if you want to understand all the HI3rd characters and pasts, you have to read the spin off HI3rd mangas and main manga bc chapter 1 of the game happens shortly after the manga
If you ever want to go in the honkai rabbit hole i will be very happy to watch it. Just saying, even tho you can get away from just knowing hsr, as a hi3 player it just gives a whole lot perspective in the hsr lore ❤.
I wonder if he will play impact 3rd. otherwise id love him to watch the whole summary of honkai impact 3rd part 1, since it wraps up the story of otto apocalypse, welt yang and void archives. the herrscher referenes will also make way more sense that way
me laughing like a mad person cuz anytime i listen to a honkai lore video i gane more theories than answers
apparently this still the tip of iceberg, but it good for catchup for what happen
truly the hoyo experience saking for answers leaving with 2x more questions
Oh yeah he uploaded it! HomuLabs is so good.
Edit: I would like to mention that the Honkai X Genshin collab story has a semblance with the Inazuma storyline.
MY POOKIE WOOKIE SEEING HI3RD VIDS?IM DREAMING(you need to play honkai 3rd cyyu!)
I love cyyu reactions to all of this 😊
Next step is watching official explanations/summary videos by HoYo - Honkai Chronicles, starting with Honkai Operation Center Chapter 1. If you want to learn Raiden Mei's story, it's described in Honkai Operation Center Chapter 2, at least half of her story.
came looking for answers, got back more questions
Welt from HSR traveling from the HI3 universe still befuzzles my mind to this day.
Well, I can easily tell you have never played impact 3rd, the game's outfits are on their own level of revealing sometimes 😅 mostly Similar to Star Rail though
As far back as Sumeru 3.2, he did speculate the Honkai as the forbidden knowledge
Except it wasn't Honkai Impact 3rd he mentioned, but Honkai 3rd Impact
a little tid-bit about the Silver-wolf bronya situation:
Bronya Rand had a different CN Va because Hanser (CN va) said she couldn't get the older Bronya voice right (despite doing it fine in hi3 lmao) and keqing's CN VA stood in
However, Hanser still voices Silver Wolf
typically when it comes to especially when it comes to the core cast they'll stick to the same VAs in JP and CN. EN was introduced in genshin so they don't have much of an insentive to keep VAs for variants as consistent (tho i heard Ratana might've said she was going to voice acheron but couldn't due to scheduling)
The whole thing about Genshin originally being the sequel to HI3 makes a whole lot of sense. As very early into the game’s development, Venti and Ei’s names were originally Wendy and Mei.
When it comes to the Bronya Bronie SW situation, one thing I only found out today was that one of Bronie's skills in Hi3 is called "Silver Wolf's [smth]". That was quite interesting.
I watched a lot of Homu vids after I started playing HSR. Pretty good vids
I am so excited for him to see the HI3 animations
welcome to the honkai rabbit hole, much like the vtuber rabbit hole you will never leave.
Lol seeing cyyu knowledge crumble as he realize most of genshin stuff reference back to other hoyo games.
26:47 the abyss flower is in a way one of the sword. It is made from the Herrscher of death. Aka the one that looks blue white, into red black in acheron lore trailer.
28:27 someone need to remind cyyu Skirk is durandal expy
35:01 little weird detail, fallen rosemary units can associate with early day genshin electric characterS ability. Fischl, Lisa, razor.
I love how he name-dropped Terminus the Aeon of Finality when talking about the of Cocoon finality and then running past it😂
I liked your ending here bc I feel the same way lol, I didn't learn much and I don't want to have to do homework for a game.
herrschers are "servants" of the will of the honkai
just to let you know
true !!
@@erogakisu of course i play honkai impact since the beta, i am more invested into the story than my own life lol
20:03 this. bronya sw and bronie. lemme explain
bronya zaychic the og bronya, then theres bronya rand an expy of bronya zaychic, bronnie is also an expy of bronya zaychik bc bronnie is bronya from a parallel universe, later on sw (silverwolf) apeard, SW is an expy of bronnie and "silver wolf" was bronya zaychik's mercenary name (she was known for her silver hair thus she was given the name silver wolf of the urals, in context bronya was taken care of by her uncle maxim bc her parents are dead, her uncle then tought her to be a mercenary, then one day the happenings of "azure waters" happend and thats how bronya life becomes) so in basic terms its like this
bronya zaychik > bronnie > silver wolf
bronya rand ^
i hope that explain that all bronya's are bronya's variant
20:43
yes its logical given hi3 only has jp and cn dub, unfortunately for cn bronya rand, hanser va (bronya zaychik and sw cn va) she mention her voice was not deep enough for bronya rand thus the position of the voice actor for bronya rand was taken by keqing cn va but she managed to get sw va
24:24 its pronounced zay- shik, or zay-chik what even u pefer
Now I just need him to react to the animation’s x.x
If anyone is still confused just know that acheron has nothing to do with raiden mei from any of the other honkai series and she's just an alternate version of them in the HSR universe so even if you don't know the lore of their other versions of her you can still enjoy acheron's story as a stand alone character in hsr
Yeah in Silver Wolf's character trailer you can see her playing Honkai 3 as Bronnie.
Welp, gonna look forward to you watching the rest of the series.
The high level lore of their multiverse is VERY complex, not complicated. But low level understanding is that "Ture" worlds anchor a certain "imaginary space" where bubbles can form that are reflections of multitude of refractions of the true world, that's where you get the "this world is just a small city district" with characters you sort of recognize doing different things.
Bubbles can be stabilized by certain high energy objects but they will remain small and dependant on the anchor world.
Knowledge from Honkai series HEAVILY suggests that Teyvat is a stable bubble universe of an unknown world (Celestia) because of the sky actually being a dome and not true space.
I'm just now figuring out there's more to whats going on lol. I recently just found out about this stuff. Brain hurty.
Now we are waiting for the reaction to the whole plot of Honkai Impact 👍
I kinda want CyYu to react to HI3 animations 🥺✨
Wait until he finds out about the Herrscher of Corruption and the Flamechasers.
The Adam soul or whatever project stigmata made where everyone falls into a 'sweet dream' and they don't want to leave/we have to convince them to before they disappear or whatever seems a lot like Penacony and us having to fix peoples emotions and how some people dissolve or disappear somehow or have spiritual deaths...
Also the Herrscher of origin is an anomaly for herrschers as Elysia being the OG Herrscher of origin let her conciousness fall into the Honkai to allow it to give a chance for herrschers in the next Era to be able to have free will and have their love for humanity overcome Honkais will. Elysia passed on the mantle to Mei to become the herrsscher of Origin in the next Era because, tho I can't exactly remember why, in order to have finality (kiana's ascension) you need origin. Like how everything has a beginning and an end.
If we look at the latest Honkai star rail short with acheron we can assume that when origin and finality clash, and if someone survives/persists, then they become an emanator of the path. I think each 'bubble verse' or 'world' is overlooked by a specific Aeon and that Aeon affects the outcome of the world and how the 'honkai' ultimately manifests. Acheron wielded the sword 'origin' and gave 'life' (Elysia gave up her life so herrschers in the next era can have their own 'will', Kevin was killed at the end of the next era so Kiana could ascend instead of him) which through her will and the gaze of Nihility turned into 'naught'.
Kiana's world was caught in a reoccurrence of finality which was the 'truth' of the world, that Honkai would keep coming in multiple Eras until someone can surpass finality/show this world is worthy. For Acherons world the truth of the world that that worlds Kevin said was that it was for nothing, it was 'meaningless' which aligns more to Nihility.
Acheron surviving, using the powers/sword of origin and fighting back against Nihility made her become an emanator/herrscher of Nihility. Kiana is an Emanator of Nihility even tho she absorbed the powers, or she will become the next Aeon of it as Kiana's ultimate goal was to disperse the honkai energy to be less lethal and make it so everyone on earth can benefit from it. By the time Honkai Star rail came around it was showed that Finality's powers or influence was waning, probably because of Kiana's influence over it as the timeline would be approx 7-8 years after Kiana sealed herself in the moon to prevent honkai radiation form corrupting others.
Acheron is fighting against the path of Nihility despite being an emanator (probably trying to 'cure' it) but Kiana and the others did the same with finality (trying to find a 'cure' for the honkai). I think that the presence of 'Origin' specifically in a world might determine if that timeline has a 'finality' that after the 'finality' or final trial will lead the victors to become emanators or even Aeons themselves (the Aeon of Destruction looks VERY humanoid than the others and even then some like abundance is also very humanoid and its possible they were once human and want humanity to prove their survival thru honkai as a trial as Telsa or another scientist in honkai impact 3rd said something along the lines of the Honkai actually wanting to embrace humanity or something iirc, like it wants the best for humanity and this is the only way it 'knows how' if that makes sense and if I am remembering that correctly).
Acheron also stated she knew someone named welt and knows about the world tree/alternate versions of others so acherons world was probably on par with Kianas and the Hi3 world. Honkai shows up due to technology/advancements in civilizations to test it and both of those civilizations compared to the ones we've seen so far in star rail were able to harness the power of the honkai (welts cane is a weapon made from a Kevin era herrscher's core, known as a divine key, and the swords they used in acherons world were most likely made from similar materials from herrschers) so most likely for there to be the final test the civilization has to meet the civilization progress requirements, be able to harness the powers of all herrschers/equivalents, have someone wield the power of 'origin' and another 'finality' (not necessarily to fight but even to stand together) and then have one or both of them survive to harness the power of the aeon/ascend and bring in a new Era.
but this is just my theory/take on it, sorry for rambling and spelling errors, its 2:30am I should really sleep lmao
All of the honkai games are connected by what we call the honkai universe, but they're all different things, the characters are similar and their stories are connected but they're more of alternate versions of each other, i'm bad at explaining bc honkai lore it's complicated af, but Homu Labs has a really good video explaining the connection between the games and a little bit of a basis of the honkai universe, including Houkai Gakuen, GGZ, HI3rd, Star Rail, and even Genshin
20:48 I’m sorry but the en voice don’t really matter that much since hi3rd and hk2 only have cn and jp
Also during cbt1 for hsr there was only Silverwolf and yes she is Bronie expy but ppl found out that she wasnt voice by Hanser, she rejected the offer saying her voice wouldn’t match for Silverwolf. Potato tomato in next cbt we have Bronya Ranch voice by Hanser.
Hanser is a Chinese Vtuber/VA and she have been the voice of all Bronya(include Bronie) except Silverwolf which she rejected, confirmed by her during her stream
Actually it was Bronya Rand that wasn't voiced by Hanser, not Silverwolf. Hanser rejected the role of Bronya Rand (who is voiced by Keqing's cn va) but she still voices Silverwolf. I'm assuming you just got the names mixed up though lmao
The lore is amazing.
Also, i know that Visual Novel! XD
30:28: somehow I'm reminded of Keqing Eng VA(Kayli Mills) also voiced the MC of Class of 09 XD
Love how most Voice actors started somewhere XD
Time to look into this game
Silver Wolf case in razor language: she’s a copy of a copy
So while Bronya HSR is a variant of Bronya HI3
Silver Wolf is a variant of Bronie HI3 who is a variant of Bronya HI3
Proud of their journey
Ah yes. The 2nd Eruption.
As someone who already read it, I can tell you this : It's peak. Epic. Made you frustrated that you want more.
Bruh seeing cyyu being in denial about SW being a Bronya variant makes my day
Theres something everyone in the comments is forgetting about the SW Bronya situation.
Bronya Rand is also a variant of a variant. She is a vartiant of Adult Bronya from APHO. Who herself is an adult variant of Bronya Zaychik the main honaki story.
So we basically have 2 variants of vartiants of Bronya Zaychik.
But APHO Bronya isn't a variant, it's literally just her post-time skip. Variant = Expy, no? And APHO isn't that, it's the same world. I mean, APHO designs literally happen in the last chapter of Part 1.5, the MAIN story.
APHO Bronya isn’t a variant of child bronya. She’s Bronya but grown up. I’m pretty sure that the devs stated that apho was canon just 8 years into the future.
Also, with the first chapter/pre chap (with Kiana, helia and coralie being trained by Kiana, we see Mei and Bronya in the apho versions. Which means it’s canon)
Bronya Rand is a variant of just Bronya Zaychik. Not “apho bronya”. Literally.
Bronya's name when she was an assassin is Silver Wolf of the Urals
I wonder if he's gonna watch to the rest of the Homu Labs Videos? If he does watch the rest will he do it on or off stream?
Wow😮
Now it would be really funny if he watched the honkai chronicles.
I want to see his reactions to how depressing Shaoji makes his stories xD
so when're the HI3 cinematics happening?
That's a very very simplified summary...
So from my understanding HSR bronya is an expy of hi3 bronya and silverwolf is actually an expy of an expy of bronya. Bronie from my understanding is a completely separate character in a different universe separated from the HI3 universe. Silverwolf is an expy of bronie not bronya. But bronie is an expy of bronya from HI3
Laughing at Cy Yu getting triggered at… almost everything 😂 (especially the part at Sumeru)