Jack did start it, he'd already cussed everyone out bout the glass then said the cry me river comment. Like Cornette said "he fucked around an found out"
Assuming what Punk said is true, if Perry did actually say something akin to "If you got a problem, do something about it", that's literally calling you out to start a fight, and if you don't do something, you look like a bitch, so most people will (especially when already heated and we're talking about athletes). I think it meets the legal definition of "fighting words", which is considered the same as throwing a punch, since it's basically guaranteed to start a fight. So yea, agreed; Jack started it.
It also made AEW the talk of Wrestlemainia Week and it also allowed Jack Perry to soak it all in as well right before he stepped foot into Chicago a few days later. On top of that Chicago cheered for Jack Perry , they sang Oh Cry Me a River and Thank You Jack. They cheered and basically requested that he hit the GTS which he attempted . This was all after he dropped the Chicago flag on the floor. That alone says enough .
Punk said that he quit when he "lunged" at Tony, which it wasn't a lunge it was high emotion and frustration at TK not doing anything about the issues Punk asked him to deal with. The whole "firing" of Punk is actually spin, TK said he fired Punk to save face for himself and his company. Pure and simple spin!
He didn't lunge at Tony at all. He turned toward him and yelled some choice words. Brad is still feeding the dirt sheet narrative that's already been disproven. 🤣
@@DidntChooseFailure Regardless it's going to reflect badly on them, especially if they got the footage under false pretenses. And you do realize AEW airs on British TV.
He is such a disingenuous weasel. Been hanging with the bucks for years, went along for the fight and NOW - when things are falling apart for them - he’s like: oh no, I wasn’t down for it…. Incredibly how gullible you young uns are. lol. If anyone makes a video and seems nice you buy it: no matter how absurdly implausible it is. In Kenny’s case he didn’t even begin to explain his part in any of it. All he had to say to these dullards is: hey hey… I didn’t really like it - I’m Ok with Punk. Dullards: oh wow, yeah he’s a good guy! He wasn’t part of it. He’s been trying to stop the Bucks and Tony the whole time! 😂😂😂
He was beloved long before that. I doubt it....I think it'd have turned people on mcmahon before book, and we'd have gotten one of those mcmahon family "we hear you, and we are going to do better" promos lol
Jack Perry did start it via saying into the camera "it's real glass, cry me a river" then before Punk pushes him he says what are you going to do about it while putting up his hair which is a sign I'm ready to fight
@@acerimmer9894umm but Cm blank attack him first so no Jack still victim you can't attack anyone over words that be like being assaulted over heated words .. by the way not allowed used Cm blank anymore youtube 😂
@@tonyslicer7399punk is teaching a lesson that jack should’ve learned as a young man. Operate from a place of respect and most people will leave you alone. Try to embarrass or humiliate someone that you think won’t do anything about it, sometimes you learn real quick who won’t tolerate it.
@@tonyslicer7399sorry to burst your bubble, if it does. But nether is a victim. Cm and Perry both are at fault, Perry more so. Had he of just done it safer, they have been doing it for years. Sugar glass. Had he of just done it safer, not even changing anything in the story. Heck, he could have used thicker sugar glass to have the same safer effect, said the same thing and I bet Cm would have gave him props for that. At least it makes Perry an actual victim. Instead, he played the victim when he instigated thing with "Real glass, cry me a river." Which tells fans safety was asked, ignored, and other actual bs really. When Shawn kicked Marty I think threw the glass, sugar glass. Not saying it always needs to be used, but clearly it was asked to be done safer and ignored. Not just ignored, but commented on and called out. That puts Perry as the instigator and the one majority at fault, since had he of shown wisdom and say the heck down and just talked about things. Cm would be still aew or left for another reason.
@@chuckles9767 again who strike first was Phil in real life situation this was in streets and that person physically went after someone then that person would go jail you understand this don't matter what Jack said you can not attack people not saying Jack innocent but still need common sense situations
@@tonyslicer7399 If someone says to you "what are you going to do about it" while putting their hair up getting ready to spar and gets closer to you that is provoking a fight. Any rational person would either brace themselves for a fight by getting into a defensive stance OR make a preemptive move. If you think its ok for people to verbally challenge you, get themselves ready for a fight, and then step up on you without reaction you must like being put in your place. 🤷🏾♂️
@@tonyslicer7399 Jack Perry challenged him to do something and Punk did something about it. You can't stand in someone's face and call them out and then play victim when the person calls out your bluff and takes to action. There is no victim card here. Perry was complicit and started the entire thing. He could've backed away, apologized, or tried to de-escalate things.
@@belhinaniabdelkhalek6481 You get it. Its like you watch to see how bad CM Punk was and it turned out to be a little school fight when Tony said he was scared for his life. And after people watched it they are like really, and it makes you turn the channel back to WWE. Because you know now that Tony is a liar and coke head with dulisional thoughts.
They need to run quality control going forward. The mixed messaging of edge’s promo to then the footage and ospreay’s promo on dynamite, is just draining.
@@godking311 762,000 viewers this week down from last week 819,000. Next week 710,000 and so on down you watch. Didn't have hardly 6000 in the crowd. They are going down.
The subtitles were wrong often though lol you still just have to listen to spoken words and pay attention to the context. The subtitles overall do help though
It made Perry look like a geek and it made the "feared for my life" thing Tony whined about totally empty. It also showed that Punk was still their only draw with the slight ratings bump.
Love ya Book' ! My childhood's very first wrestler idol ! And thank you so much for the subtitles, it's such a simple idea, but there are so few channels that use them.
No he was fired. They say Bryan Danielson was the final decision, and he voted to fire Punk. I guess as part of his deal, Danielson was given a job on their advisory board. Him and 2 others get to make decisions for the company. Supposedly the other two voted and was one to fire and one to not fire, and Danielson broke the tie and said Punk should be fired. On that sports show Maggie & Perloff Danielson said he is part of the board, but would not talk about any decisions they have made or how they decided to fire Punk.
@@ASpiritualAwakener You cannot quit a contract, or you get sued. He was fired. Trying to quit and going to any other company is a way only get you sued, but to get the other company sued for all sort of violations like contract tampering. He was fired.
Booker is on point. Punk quit after that altercation. Tony wanted to save face and so said he fired CM Punk. He just didn't have the courage to take the fan backlash and so used the discipline committee as an excuse.
As the old saying goes, "Don't start nothing. Won't be nothing." What gets me is, if they did things right and could get everyone to coexist, they could've done business and made money. But, that would take competent leadership to make it happen.
Excusing workplace violence because it’s a “testosterone fueled sport” (10:01 in video) and the wrestler brings in money? I was in Afghanistan in 2019 when an ex-Army Ranger was sent home for flashing his knife on base as his way of saying Hi. What is worse: flashing a knife or choking out a coworker who never fought back? What is worse: Excusing behavior because the wrestler makes money or because an experienced army Ranger could mean the difference between life or death in a combat zone? Excusing bad behavior because when you’re big, rules don’t apply to you … isn’t that way of thinking also the cause of Vince’s current issues? And isn’t that what Punk once spoke out against? The video offered many examples of altercations; it would be interesting if it addressed Alberto Del Rio’s altercation and firing from WWE.
I thought I saw an interview with Jack Perry last week who said he crossed the line with Punk in the promo before the backstage stuff and he had no hard feelings
I hope that's true. I'd respect him for that. He's still basically a kid so maybe he has been something of a scapegoat. I still think Punk was in the right to humble his ass though.
And their ratings dropped back down to the 700,000 range. So they just confirmed that they once again needed CM punk, who gave them their highest consistent ratings when he was on dynamite, to give them a ratings boost. All because tony is a lousy booker and dont know how to properly utilize the talent with compelling stories long term. Look how many wrestlers he dropped the ball with there.
Don't get the point of showing that knowing that people have moved on since then. Okay, it shows that Punk is the one who fucked up but I don't think it really matters to most people. That's a good thing to show people the truth but still, that was unnecessary.
Booker you had that line about working with Wade Barrett during the Lola Vice match on last week's episode of NXT. That made me laugh for at least 10 minutes straight. Your broadcast partner was asking you a bunch of dumb questions, and instead of answering you said 'I got the chance to work with Wade Barrett once, I miss him'. Hilarious!
I'm more interested in seeing the footage of the first fight between Punk and The Young Bucks. This one wasn't a big deal at all and hardly anything happened
That footage should’ve dropped as soon as available if wanted to release it. To drop it after the Punk interview, to simply double confirm what he said 🤣🤣🤣
Where TK failed was that he didn't take care of Perry wanting to do a spot multiple people told him he can't do, even their doctor. It shouldn't of been up to CM Punk to take care of the situation. TK could of pulled Perry aside at any time and said "multiple people have told you no, and I'm telling you no. I will not allow production to film any spot regarding you and a car window." That's it, that's all he needed to do. But it sounds like he is more concerned with being a friend rather than being a boss and that doesn't work in this situation, it also means some of his wrestlers have zero respect for his authority. And regards to the rental car, why would you want to damage property that isn't yours. There have been wrestlers famously banned from not renting a car again from a rental car agency because of what they did to the car. Which that could of happened in this situation. If you return a car with a busted window, especially without a legit reason or a police report they could very easily put you on the no rental list. I used to work for Hertz
As far as I can remember, wasn’t CMP Punk first time getting physical so he was a problem he had to go. But overall, Tony is not a real boss as punk said he does not know when to put his foot down
@@rehdogg Lmaoo that’s the wrestling business, egos EVERYWHERE and he has every right to be that way. Stone Cold, HHH, Cena, Rock etc are that very same way
The footage did exactly what it was supposed to do. It brought heat to the bucks for showing it and it allowed Jack Perry to soak it all in as well right before he stepped foot into Chicago a few days later. On top of that Chicago cheered for Jack Perry , they sang Oh Cry Me a River and Thank You Jack. They cheered and basically requested that he hit the GTS which he attempted . This was also after he dropped the Chicago flag on the floor. That alone says enough . Another thing stop the bullshit. The footage didn't go how Punk said. One: Punk said Jack got in HIS space so like Chael he had to do what he to do . That was a lie . Jack didnt even move from his position until Punk pushed him. Second: Punk said he didn't throw a punch but he did it was just sloppy cause he can't fight . Third: Punk said he simply turned to Tony and told him he quit . He never once said he went at Tony in a aggressive manor to the point he had to be held back and pulled away. Yall don't like to call shit for what it really is and it's embarrassing .
Why feel sorry for TK - whem an employee is telling of things going on and you dont do about it them you get what you get........ the problem is the Bucks and friends think TK works for them
L take from Brad. I'm over the shills shaming a company for taking shots. Especially since shots were fired from the other side without any condemnation.
Jack Perry did start it by what he did on the preshow of the ppv in London. CM Punk should've never been in the position to say anything to Jack Perry about his performance or plans on Match he was planning to do. that's TKs job and responsibility ONLY. Tell me I'm wrong when a boss has final say on product being done no matter the industry
One of the sad parts is punk tried to get together with them to work things out and make some money together. They said no Tony said well can't do it if they said no. What? You're their boss. Imagine Jim Ross saying oh well they said no when he was in charge of talent relations.
Hey Brad, why if AEW says something about someone in WWE is lame? someone decided to take a shot in a resentful way in public (HHH) and is considered OK and funny, but if that guy answers publicly in a promo to that offense (Ospreay) is considered unnecessary or lame?, Nah, dude, you said something you face the consequences... Don't they have their own stuff as well?? Then don't talk about the others disrespectfully. AEW has been living in HHH head rent free since 2020
I mean you take the diehards from both companies that care for it. I thought this was obvious but the reason that people dont like on the aew side cuz thats what theyre known for 🤷♂️
One thing to keep in mind. When punk “lunged” at Tony, he told him he quit. I think firing him was simply to get back at him or Tony’s way of having the last word
Here is the way to look at. Perry wanted to do a spot, Punk didn't want him doing the spot but his boss Tony Khan was open minded like he is with most of what his talent want to do so he just let whatever happen. At some point Punk got the impression that he had some say in how the company was run and what other wrestlers do - even in angles and spots that do not involve him. This is clearly Tony Khan mis-selling what Punk's position was in the company and was only made worse by giving him his own show. I think the whole thing was mismanaged and I 100% believe everything that Punk said about his time in AEW.
Tony Schiavone specifically went to CM Punk and told him that Jack Perry was being disrespectful to him and the other management for not wanting him to do a spot. Punk asked if he was sure if he wanted him to be involved. Schiavone assured Punk that he wanted him to talk to Jack Perry to not do the spot. Therefore, Punk got involved. It's not like Punk just woke up and thought he was the boss. This was a situation he was specifically asked to be involved in.
Here is my thing, and kinda a question to those in pro wrestling. Many i hear say Cm Punk start this ot that. My question is this, why wasn't everything just avoided with the use of sugar glass instead of real glass to give Perry the ammo to instigate in the first place. How really is it Cm Punks fault if another would be safe when someone else at the work place asking for such safety and instrad of just going, ya know... Your right, accidents can happen and this can be done safer to lower that. Real glass wasnt actually needed and Sugar glass has been used many times to have an effect and shatters but the edges most times are blunt or less sharp, so why let Perry start something others knew another had an issue with it, let alone someone even slightly like Cm Punk is portraid and one who gave the pipe bomb. I mean, kinda says he aint having an issue call you out for cheap internet thing that could have been safer. So, any idea why they didnt just use sugar glass and avoid the whole "Real glass, cry me a river." Instigation that started everything. Cm Punk should have kept his cool yes, but Perry should never of put things in the postion he did. Not say change the story or anything, but why do they have an issue over something being... Well safer?
It was a fireable offense because that was Punks 2nd physical fight in 2 years. They suspended him for the first one at ALL OUT. He fought again so get got fired. Period.
Wrestlers getting into small skirmishes backstage is not a fireable offense. It's professional wrestling. It's not like working at Chase Bank. In wrestling, guys get into backstage altercations. And this surely wasn't an altercation worth a firing. I'm sure the first altercation at Brawl-In was overblown as well. This is nothing that couldn't be settled. The problem is TK has no leadership
I don't blame Tony Khan for what's happened with CM Punk.Look,Punk did all that himself even though,Punk was just defending himself and his position.It just didn't work out.They gave a try,it didn't work.Tony isn't just a promoter but a fan who happens to be a promoter.Things went south when egos were involved,it happens in professional wrestling in multiple occasions and it always will.Now,how it happened could have been prevented but it the same time,you have to want it to be.It's just like any career.This is nothing new,we heard worse things happen but sometimes you have to look at yourself and say is it worth it? Tony has a right to show it to straighten out the company's reputation.But,now,he's gotta move on from the damage that was made.
jack perry was the one who started it jack perrys body language clearly said u got a problem do something about it which is what punk said happened. u can read jack perrys body language there is a damn good reason there not showing audio for that video.
So was this the actual scene where Tony felt fearful for his life? Or is that other footage? If it rely totally on this footage then holy crap if that makes your fear for your life Tony doesn’t know reality.
Footage . Everyone has been talking about it brother😅 So it was in a storyline ,yes. Was it a build up for FTR vs the Bucks , yes. Was punk the star of the section on rampage ,no Was punk mentioned, no. Was it intended to have embarrassed punk ,no. Did Punk take responsibility for what he did,no. Punk got off Scott free and a pass back into WWE. Perry should not have been treated this way. Jack Perry is an up and coming Star which Punk has damaged. If Roman had done this to Austin Theory ,would he be held responsible. 😅😢😂
I will not shit on AEW, cause at the end of the day, they have one hell of a roster...but AEW is focused on wrestling and not so much the storylines...If HHH had control of that roster also, he'd have that show drawing numbers
Punk didn't admit to pushing anyone. He said "I didn't touch anybody, I did a little choke" so don't say he was telling the truth. Punk also approached Perry, he could have just let it go and exited for his match, but didn't.
Why are you really pulling at the weeds here. Who cares if Punk said if he pushed him or not. Ultimately, he grabbed him to choke him. It may have come off as a push but it was intended for a choke, which we all saw. You are really grasping at straws here. Perry wanted to be passive aggressive and thought he could run the asylum without consequence. He intentionally did that to mock Punk knowing Punk was watching the monitor. He brought it on himself.
@@kob456 My point was that He isn't as honest as people think. Don't judge AEW for not dropping unless people are going to say the same thing about Punk. His interview came first.
@@OldVet67 Punk was very honest. The end result was him choking out Perry. He told a condensed version of the story, but you somehow think just because Punk didn't give you a second by second nook and cranny detail of the story, he is somehow not being honest. That makes no sense. No, Punk was very honest. You're just looking for a way to apologize for AEW. And second, Punk's interview happened during a press run. It didn't take up WWE TV time. Tony Khan is putting this nonsense on TV. If he wanted to release the footage, he could've gave it to TMZ. Again, stop apologizing for AEW's ill decisions.
Booker T is being so political and playing both sides. Man call a spade a spade. Jack Perry isn’t a damn scapegoat. He ran his mouth and was told not to do something and did it anyway, also while live took a shot a him and said real glass cry me a river. CM Punk confronted him he talked tough and got his ass humbled. Booker T knows being in the business and having a scrap with Batista himself knows how this works. At the end of the Day Tony Kahn isn’t built to be a boss, he’s a fan/mark of wrestling with a lot of money. Stop trying to make Punk the problem. The drive thru/experience is probably the most accurate take on what’s happening without the politics
For me AEW had a legit chance, maybe to not beat WWE but they had a chance to be something really good, however it went south very very fast. They dropped the ball, and need a change in a bad way
As much AEW is a joke, Punk just comes off unprofessional constantly if he's angry. The media scrum thing shows that. He was pissed about Page "going into business for himself" during a promo, then says things (even if true) that should have never been said in public. Everyone that's happy he is back in WWE, just wait until something backstage doesn't go his way.
@dvsmike and yet, instead of just going out and having his match with Joe on the biggest event in the company, he first choose to go out of his way to confront a mid carded and assault him. Grow up in the real world, that's assault. You don't attack a co-worker because they don't listen to your advice or don't respect you. He could have just had the match, and when he got to the States, contacted his lawyer to get out of his contract.
@garyshaver1945 This ain't your typical corporate job where assault is not the way to handle things. Even Omega made reference to it. Sometimes you gotta fight. I have seen it as a wrestler myself. The competitive nature of the business brings it out of you. You have to fight sometimes. When a petulant child like Perry is talking to you the way he did, thinking that his boss is right there and he will be protected by the evps, that challenge "why don't you do something about it" is fighting words. It wasn't even a legit fight either, it was scuffle, a skirmish, a little push around. Don't give me this corporate human resources bs of assault, Perry should have kept his mouth shut and not said shit. That's a public call out, yeah man, I'm coming at you to find out wtf. Punk is professional until he doesn't have to be. He is the only trying to do business, every one else is still in high school trying to play wrestler.
Wrestling community and TH-camrs: This was a bad idea blah, blah, blah. Me: You ain't talking about day after Wrestlemania. Most you folks have been focused on this. There was alot other things to cover. And the video is a gimmick for Jack Perry's Scapegoat. Folks, in pro wrestling, there is never such a thing as bad press.
The white guy is way cooler than the black guy and I’m a black guy this is a crazy moment in black history smh Booker T is always going to have a snubs input
Im not defending Jack but Cm Blank went after him first im not Jack fan let be real and yes have day Cm blank now because youtube warned me will banned me permanently off youtube so I can't say cetern words when don't actually break rules but so many rules popping up hard not break any .. so Cm Blank is yes I was warned once calling his full wrestling name 😂 Tony need forget wwe not sure why going down rabbit hole every other promotion went after WWE failed they focus just there enemy's not people working with
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Jack did start it, he'd already cussed everyone out bout the glass then said the cry me river comment. Like Cornette said "he fucked around an found out"
couldn't agree more
Assuming what Punk said is true, if Perry did actually say something akin to "If you got a problem, do something about it", that's literally calling you out to start a fight, and if you don't do something, you look like a bitch, so most people will (especially when already heated and we're talking about athletes). I think it meets the legal definition of "fighting words", which is considered the same as throwing a punch, since it's basically guaranteed to start a fight. So yea, agreed; Jack started it.
The only thing that footage did was give CM Punk more TV time😮
He was a topic on wwe, aew, and new Japan all in 1 week
It also made AEW the talk of Wrestlemainia Week and it also allowed Jack Perry to soak it all in as well right before he stepped foot into Chicago a few days later. On top of that Chicago cheered for Jack Perry , they sang Oh Cry Me a River and Thank You Jack. They cheered and basically requested that he hit the GTS which he attempted . This was all after he dropped the Chicago flag on the floor. That alone says enough .
Punk said that he quit when he "lunged" at Tony, which it wasn't a lunge it was high emotion and frustration at TK not doing anything about the issues Punk asked him to deal with. The whole "firing" of Punk is actually spin, TK said he fired Punk to save face for himself and his company. Pure and simple spin!
And also to avoid payout. With cause avoids having to pay out anything in the agreement...
He didn't lunge at Tony at all. He turned toward him and yelled some choice words. Brad is still feeding the dirt sheet narrative that's already been disproven. 🤣
Yep the "feared for my life" thing was hogwash
In the UK it's illegal to show CCTV footage for the purposes of entertainment and that's exactly what AEW did.
Unless AEW placed those cameras for security/ insurance reasons. So as long as its their own camera, maybe rules are different.
@@saint-g7449 those are Wembley's own security footage, its not aew cameras but the stadiums cameras
Well AEW aired the footage in the US not the UK so yeah lmfaoo
@@DidntChooseFailure Regardless it's going to reflect badly on them, especially if they got the footage under false pretenses. And you do realize AEW airs on British TV.
@@DidntChooseFailure I think all that matters is where the footage originated from
Omega said in a interview there is no heat between him and punk
Sums up who the real cancers are: Old Bucks, Adam Hangnail Page, Colt Cabbage and ofc our very own Tooney Khan.
he also said they had talk so I assume punk & omega settled there beef and punk was told by aew lawyers to not to contact kenny.
Not Kenny fan but hope his surgery goes well gets back healthy
Kenny was only worried about Larry. He never had beef with punk it was the counterfeit bucks.
He is such a disingenuous weasel. Been hanging with the bucks for years, went along for the fight and NOW - when things are falling apart for them - he’s like: oh no, I wasn’t down for it….
Incredibly how gullible you young uns are. lol. If anyone makes a video and seems nice you buy it: no matter how absurdly implausible it is. In Kenny’s case he didn’t even begin to explain his part in any of it. All he had to say to these dullards is: hey hey… I didn’t really like it - I’m Ok with Punk. Dullards: oh wow, yeah he’s a good guy! He wasn’t part of it. He’s been trying to stop the Bucks and Tony the whole time! 😂😂😂
Could you imagine Vince releasing footage of Booker T fucking up Batista... Batista would of never drew a cent after that video.
He was beloved long before that. I doubt it....I think it'd have turned people on mcmahon before book, and we'd have gotten one of those mcmahon family "we hear you, and we are going to do better" promos lol
lmao Batista destroyed Booker
@ConanVictor I remember the pictures WWE posted of Dave Butista's face after it happened. I would say he won.
@@ConanVictorno he didn’t 😂😂😂😂. It’s on record Booker fucker Batista up
Bro listen to all the stories...
Booker beat the shit outta Batista.
@@ConanVictor
Jack Perry did start it via saying into the camera "it's real glass, cry me a river" then before Punk pushes him he says what are you going to do about it while putting up his hair which is a sign I'm ready to fight
100% jack started it
@@acerimmer9894umm but Cm blank attack him first so no Jack still victim you can't attack anyone over words that be like being assaulted over heated words .. by the way not allowed used Cm blank anymore youtube 😂
@@tonyslicer7399punk is teaching a lesson that jack should’ve learned as a young man. Operate from a place of respect and most people will leave you alone. Try to embarrass or humiliate someone that you think won’t do anything about it, sometimes you learn real quick who won’t tolerate it.
@@tonyslicer7399sorry to burst your bubble, if it does. But nether is a victim. Cm and Perry both are at fault, Perry more so. Had he of just done it safer, they have been doing it for years. Sugar glass. Had he of just done it safer, not even changing anything in the story. Heck, he could have used thicker sugar glass to have the same safer effect, said the same thing and I bet Cm would have gave him props for that. At least it makes Perry an actual victim. Instead, he played the victim when he instigated thing with "Real glass, cry me a river." Which tells fans safety was asked, ignored, and other actual bs really. When Shawn kicked Marty I think threw the glass, sugar glass. Not saying it always needs to be used, but clearly it was asked to be done safer and ignored. Not just ignored, but commented on and called out. That puts Perry as the instigator and the one majority at fault, since had he of shown wisdom and say the heck down and just talked about things. Cm would be still aew or left for another reason.
@@chuckles9767 again who strike first was Phil in real life situation this was in streets and that person physically went after someone then that person would go jail you understand this don't matter what Jack said you can not attack people not saying Jack innocent but still need common sense situations
Punk said he did it. Punk said he liked him b4 the yelling at Schiavone thing. All of it was what punk said.
Let's be honest, I care about your guys opinions about the subject, More than the actual subject. I will never watch AWE, Not for me
Yea dude i tried watching dynamite last night and it was brutal man. I gave it 45 minutes and turned it off I couldn't do it 😂😂
They’re both corny..wwe is pretty lame too
@@ChristophSanAndreasnope only aewwe is
@@AzulQueso_ nah blue cheese, wrestling in general is pretty lame but WWE can do some stupid shit too…
@@ChristophSanAndreasnah, GTA Chris, AEW is on a whole other scale of silliness. There’s levels to this game, bro.
Problem is Perry DID start it. If he didn't say what he said, there's no fight.
You sure Cm blank put hands on him first .. be like 2 people talking and pow when not anything bad sad and not jack perry fan but have be fair
@@tonyslicer7399
If someone says to you "what are you going to do about it" while putting their hair up getting ready to spar and gets closer to you that is provoking a fight. Any rational person would either brace themselves for a fight by getting into a defensive stance OR make a preemptive move.
If you think its ok for people to verbally challenge you, get themselves ready for a fight, and then step up on you without reaction you must like being put in your place. 🤷🏾♂️
@@tonyslicer7399 Jack Perry challenged him to do something and Punk did something about it. You can't stand in someone's face and call them out and then play victim when the person calls out your bluff and takes to action. There is no victim card here. Perry was complicit and started the entire thing. He could've backed away, apologized, or tried to de-escalate things.
@@tonyslicer7399 The person who instigated the fight started the fight, not the person who threw the first punch.
I think the little bump lost viewers in the long run.
They're already back to 700k
@@godking311he said on the long run mr genuis
@@belhinaniabdelkhalek6481 You get it. Its like you watch to see how bad CM Punk was and it turned out to be a little school fight when Tony said he was scared for his life. And after people watched it they are like really, and it makes you turn the channel back to WWE. Because you know now that Tony is a liar and coke head with dulisional thoughts.
They need to run quality control going forward. The mixed messaging of edge’s promo to then the footage and ospreay’s promo on dynamite, is just draining.
@@godking311 762,000 viewers this week down from last week 819,000. Next week 710,000 and so on down you watch. Didn't have hardly 6000 in the crowd. They are going down.
Idk whose idea it was for those subtitles, but that is great. Keep them up
The subtitles were wrong often though lol you still just have to listen to spoken words and pay attention to the context. The subtitles overall do help though
Backstage footage has been absolutely ruined by AEW.
It made Perry look like a geek and it made the "feared for my life" thing Tony whined about totally empty. It also showed that Punk was still their only draw with the slight ratings bump.
Exactly they are too worried about making WWE/Punk look bad they are BARELY promoting their next PPV
CRAZINESS
The footage was spun to promote the tag match between TYB and FTR. It was probably the weakest excuse possible made for this crap.
Love ya Book' ! My childhood's very first wrestler idol ! And thank you so much for the subtitles, it's such a simple idea, but there are so few channels that use them.
Brad: "Do you think he should have been fired?"
Booker: "let me tell you about these wiener pills!"
Where's Ron Simmons and his "DAMN!" when you need them?
Love your commentary for trick you the real og moment maker always
The bluechew ad 😂 booker u crack me up 😂😂😂
Punk quit, he wasnt fired. He said it to him at the end of that video before he walked away. Punk describes what happened.
No he was fired. They say Bryan Danielson was the final decision, and he voted to fire Punk. I guess as part of his deal, Danielson was given a job on their advisory board. Him and 2 others get to make decisions for the company. Supposedly the other two voted and was one to fire and one to not fire, and Danielson broke the tie and said Punk should be fired. On that sports show Maggie & Perloff Danielson said he is part of the board, but would not talk about any decisions they have made or how they decided to fire Punk.
@@chrisgullett4332 punk himself said he quit. The board may have been a logistical thing but punk himself stated he quit.
@@ASpiritualAwakener You can't be fired if you quit and aren't coming back to work.
@@ASpiritualAwakener Sure in the moment he did say that. But then he calmed down and went on to do his match with Joe.
@@ASpiritualAwakener You cannot quit a contract, or you get sued. He was fired. Trying to quit and going to any other company is a way only get you sued, but to get the other company sued for all sort of violations like contract tampering. He was fired.
Booker is on point. Punk quit after that altercation. Tony wanted to save face and so said he fired CM Punk. He just didn't have the courage to take the fan backlash and so used the discipline committee as an excuse.
As the old saying goes, "Don't start nothing. Won't be nothing."
What gets me is, if they did things right and could get everyone to coexist, they could've done business and made money. But, that would take competent leadership to make it happen.
Hope brads doing better. Looks real sick here.
Thanks! Yeah I’m going through it. But I’m getting there.
@GilmoreMedia2023 get better, dude. Hoping it's not too serious
Excusing workplace violence because it’s a “testosterone fueled sport” (10:01 in video) and the wrestler brings in money?
I was in Afghanistan in 2019 when an ex-Army Ranger was sent home for flashing his knife on base as his way of saying Hi.
What is worse: flashing a knife or choking out a coworker who never fought back?
What is worse: Excusing behavior because the wrestler makes money or because an experienced army Ranger could mean the difference between life or death in a combat zone?
Excusing bad behavior because when you’re big, rules don’t apply to you … isn’t that way of thinking also the cause of Vince’s current issues? And isn’t that what Punk once spoke out against?
The video offered many examples of altercations; it would be interesting if it addressed Alberto Del Rio’s altercation and firing from WWE.
Compared to reports of booker t vs batista, this is so tame.
Tony Khan was looking for a reason to get out of Punk's contract and then this happened and Tony pulled the "I was scared for my life" thing.
Tony didn't just get a bump he got a whole line
Lol
For all these negative comments…. If you truly love wrestling 🤔 then you enjoy all wrestling across all platforms! I love WWE AEW TNA NJPW MLW …….
I thought I saw an interview with Jack Perry last week who said he crossed the line with Punk in the promo before the backstage stuff and he had no hard feelings
I hope that's true. I'd respect him for that. He's still basically a kid so maybe he has been something of a scapegoat. I still think Punk was in the right to humble his ass though.
Where was the lunge. I saw no lunge
And their ratings dropped back down to the 700,000 range. So they just confirmed that they once again needed CM punk, who gave them their highest consistent ratings
when he was on
dynamite, to give them a ratings boost. All because tony is a lousy booker and dont know how to properly utilize the talent with compelling stories long term. Look how many wrestlers he dropped the ball with there.
Booker: chew it and do it!
Me: tell me, he didn’t just say that (booker voice) 😂😂
Tony khan needs to fire the young bucks. They have no skill as VPs. Hell they cant even get themselves over to grow their audience
Does anyone else think the All In bullshit has hurt Swerve's heat?
I think it's been the booking tbh
Just imagine if they fired everyone for fighting how many stars we WOULDN'T have...
It got a million viewers because the basketball game
Don't get the point of showing that knowing that people have moved on since then. Okay, it shows that Punk is the one who fucked up but I don't think it really matters to most people. That's a good thing to show people the truth but still, that was unnecessary.
I'll tell you what I'd like to see, is the footage of the Booker T/Batista locker room fight from years ago.
Booker you had that line about working with Wade Barrett during the Lola Vice match on last week's episode of NXT. That made me laugh for at least 10 minutes straight. Your broadcast partner was asking you a bunch of dumb questions, and instead of answering you said 'I got the chance to work with Wade Barrett once, I miss him'. Hilarious!
I'm more interested in seeing the footage of the first fight between Punk and The Young Bucks. This one wasn't a big deal at all and hardly anything happened
Jack Perry totally started it. (Real glass cry me a river) was basically saying (Fuck you Phil Brooks, I do what I want) on ppv
Hey hey hey! We got to take a break! My favorite Booker quote on this podcast.
That footage should’ve dropped as soon as available if wanted to release it. To drop it after the Punk interview, to simply double confirm what he said 🤣🤣🤣
Where TK failed was that he didn't take care of Perry wanting to do a spot multiple people told him he can't do, even their doctor. It shouldn't of been up to CM Punk to take care of the situation. TK could of pulled Perry aside at any time and said "multiple people have told you no, and I'm telling you no. I will not allow production to film any spot regarding you and a car window." That's it, that's all he needed to do. But it sounds like he is more concerned with being a friend rather than being a boss and that doesn't work in this situation, it also means some of his wrestlers have zero respect for his authority. And regards to the rental car, why would you want to damage property that isn't yours. There have been wrestlers famously banned from not renting a car again from a rental car agency because of what they did to the car. Which that could of happened in this situation. If you return a car with a busted window, especially without a legit reason or a police report they could very easily put you on the no rental list. I used to work for Hertz
As far as I can remember, wasn’t CMP Punk first time getting physical so he was a problem he had to go. But overall, Tony is not a real boss as punk said he does not know when to put his foot down
He’s not necessarily a problem, just don’t f with him it’s simple
@@btdaniels9028 he has issues I don’t care how you try to spin it
@@rehdogg and who doesn’t have issues ?? I mean you clearly do since you’re going with the “he was a problem” angle instead of being objective
@@btdaniels9028 I agree many of us including myself have issues. He’s also a narcissistic egocentric individual in my very strong, humble opinion.
@@rehdogg Lmaoo that’s the wrestling business, egos EVERYWHERE and he has every right to be that way. Stone Cold, HHH, Cena, Rock etc are that very same way
The footage did exactly what it was supposed to do. It brought heat to the bucks for showing it and it allowed Jack Perry to soak it all in as well right before he stepped foot into Chicago a few days later. On top of that Chicago cheered for Jack Perry , they sang Oh Cry Me a River and Thank You Jack. They cheered and basically requested that he hit the GTS which he attempted . This was also after he dropped the Chicago flag on the floor. That alone says enough .
Another thing stop the bullshit. The footage didn't go how Punk said. One: Punk said Jack got in HIS space so like Chael he had to do what he to do . That was a lie . Jack didnt even move from his position until Punk pushed him. Second: Punk said he didn't throw a punch but he did it was just sloppy cause he can't fight . Third: Punk said he simply turned to Tony and told him he quit . He never once said he went at Tony in a aggressive manor to the point he had to be held back and pulled away.
Yall don't like to call shit for what it really is and it's embarrassing .
Why feel sorry for TK - whem an employee is telling of things going on and you dont do about it them you get what you get........ the problem is the Bucks and friends think TK works for them
No punches thrown. ⚡🚨⚡
Tony’s big shocking announcement was once again a BUST!
L take from Brad. I'm over the shills shaming a company for taking shots. Especially since shots were fired from the other side without any condemnation.
Jack Perry did start it by what he did on the preshow of the ppv in London. CM Punk should've never been in the position to say anything to Jack Perry about his performance or plans on Match he was planning to do. that's TKs job and responsibility ONLY. Tell me I'm wrong when a boss has final say on product being done no matter the industry
One of the sad parts is punk tried to get together with them to work things out and make some money together. They said no Tony said well can't do it if they said no. What? You're their boss. Imagine Jim Ross saying oh well they said no when he was in charge of talent relations.
Hey Brad, why if AEW says something about someone in WWE is lame? someone decided to take a shot in a resentful way in public (HHH) and is considered OK and funny, but if that guy answers publicly in a promo to that offense (Ospreay) is considered unnecessary or lame?, Nah, dude, you said something you face the consequences... Don't they have their own stuff as well?? Then don't talk about the others disrespectfully. AEW has been living in HHH head rent free since 2020
I mean you take the diehards from both companies that care for it. I thought this was obvious but the reason that people dont like on the aew side cuz thats what theyre known for 🤷♂️
One thing to keep in mind. When punk “lunged” at Tony, he told him he quit. I think firing him was simply to get back at him or Tony’s way of having the last word
Yet he still wrestled Joe after "quitting".
Here is the way to look at. Perry wanted to do a spot, Punk didn't want him doing the spot but his boss Tony Khan was open minded like he is with most of what his talent want to do so he just let whatever happen. At some point Punk got the impression that he had some say in how the company was run and what other wrestlers do - even in angles and spots that do not involve him. This is clearly Tony Khan mis-selling what Punk's position was in the company and was only made worse by giving him his own show. I think the whole thing was mismanaged and I 100% believe everything that Punk said about his time in AEW.
Tony Schiavone specifically went to CM Punk and told him that Jack Perry was being disrespectful to him and the other management for not wanting him to do a spot. Punk asked if he was sure if he wanted him to be involved. Schiavone assured Punk that he wanted him to talk to Jack Perry to not do the spot. Therefore, Punk got involved. It's not like Punk just woke up and thought he was the boss. This was a situation he was specifically asked to be involved in.
And Punk is still Aew champion
TK deciding to release that video over everyone’s opinion is probably the only Time he’s tried to seem like a boss yet failed epically 😂
Yeah Booker T busted some ass irl backstage back in the day
This is a paper cut compared to King Booker 😂
Come on Booker, nobody thought Jungle Boy was the aggressor in any way. Unless you're a no name doctor or an elderly Tony Schiavonie.
Ha.
Earring or not, he old.
Ha.
Here is my thing, and kinda a question to those in pro wrestling. Many i hear say Cm Punk start this ot that. My question is this, why wasn't everything just avoided with the use of sugar glass instead of real glass to give Perry the ammo to instigate in the first place. How really is it Cm Punks fault if another would be safe when someone else at the work place asking for such safety and instrad of just going, ya know... Your right, accidents can happen and this can be done safer to lower that. Real glass wasnt actually needed and Sugar glass has been used many times to have an effect and shatters but the edges most times are blunt or less sharp, so why let Perry start something others knew another had an issue with it, let alone someone even slightly like Cm Punk is portraid and one who gave the pipe bomb. I mean, kinda says he aint having an issue call you out for cheap internet thing that could have been safer. So, any idea why they didnt just use sugar glass and avoid the whole "Real glass, cry me a river." Instigation that started everything. Cm Punk should have kept his cool yes, but Perry should never of put things in the postion he did. Not say change the story or anything, but why do they have an issue over something being... Well safer?
It was a fireable offense because that was Punks 2nd physical fight in 2 years. They suspended him for the first one at ALL OUT. He fought again so get got fired. Period.
He quit genius
@@chrischar9428 you can't quit while under contract, genius. This is professional wrestling, not Burger King.
Wrestlers getting into small skirmishes backstage is not a fireable offense. It's professional wrestling. It's not like working at Chase Bank. In wrestling, guys get into backstage altercations. And this surely wasn't an altercation worth a firing. I'm sure the first altercation at Brawl-In was overblown as well. This is nothing that couldn't be settled. The problem is TK has no leadership
AEW is a mess but these dudes sneak dissing is just as corny and you hoz deleted my comment…so fk yall
I don't blame Tony Khan for what's happened with CM Punk.Look,Punk did all that himself even though,Punk was just defending himself and his position.It just didn't work out.They gave a try,it didn't work.Tony isn't just a promoter but a fan who happens to be a promoter.Things went south when egos were involved,it happens in professional wrestling in multiple occasions and it always will.Now,how it happened could have been prevented but it the same time,you have to want it to be.It's just like any career.This is nothing new,we heard worse things happen but sometimes you have to look at yourself and say is it worth it? Tony has a right to show it to straighten out the company's reputation.But,now,he's gotta move on from the damage that was made.
jack perry was the one who started it jack perrys body language clearly said u got a problem do something about it which is what punk said happened. u can read jack perrys body language there is a damn good reason there not showing audio for that video.
So was this the actual scene where Tony felt fearful for his life? Or is that other footage? If it rely totally on this footage then holy crap if that makes your fear for your life Tony doesn’t know reality.
The bold and the beautiful PPV nice lol
Footage . Everyone has been talking about it brother😅
So it was in a storyline ,yes.
Was it a build up for FTR vs the Bucks , yes.
Was punk the star of the section on rampage ,no
Was punk mentioned, no.
Was it intended to have embarrassed punk ,no.
Did Punk take responsibility for what he did,no.
Punk got off Scott free and a pass back into WWE.
Perry should not have been treated this way.
Jack Perry is an up and coming Star which Punk has damaged.
If Roman had done this to Austin Theory ,would he be held responsible. 😅😢😂
Wtf going on with these freaky ass promotions 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m crying
I will not shit on AEW, cause at the end of the day, they have one hell of a roster...but AEW is focused on wrestling and not so much the storylines...If HHH had control of that roster also, he'd have that show drawing numbers
I loved Booker T before the internet
What do you mean?
@@jasonelliott7977 I think Moondog is upset that Booker T is not sucking up to AEW and making excuses for their ill-advised decisions.
Punk didn't admit to pushing anyone. He said "I didn't touch anybody, I did a little choke" so don't say he was telling the truth. Punk also approached Perry, he could have just let it go and exited for his match, but didn't.
Why are you really pulling at the weeds here. Who cares if Punk said if he pushed him or not. Ultimately, he grabbed him to choke him. It may have come off as a push but it was intended for a choke, which we all saw. You are really grasping at straws here. Perry wanted to be passive aggressive and thought he could run the asylum without consequence. He intentionally did that to mock Punk knowing Punk was watching the monitor. He brought it on himself.
@@kob456 My point was that He isn't as honest as people think. Don't judge AEW for not dropping unless people are going to say the same thing about Punk. His interview came first.
@@OldVet67 Punk was very honest. The end result was him choking out Perry. He told a condensed version of the story, but you somehow think just because Punk didn't give you a second by second nook and cranny detail of the story, he is somehow not being honest. That makes no sense. No, Punk was very honest. You're just looking for a way to apologize for AEW. And second, Punk's interview happened during a press run. It didn't take up WWE TV time. Tony Khan is putting this nonsense on TV. If he wanted to release the footage, he could've gave it to TMZ. Again, stop apologizing for AEW's ill decisions.
Too bad we can’t fantasy book Little Jack Perry trying that with Andre.
The footage just made TK look even more like a clown
He should added " that one guy all your elite fans brag about not winning in the UFC
honestly i think Vince would approve of the move to boost ratings, but yeah they had no plans to keep things rolling, total fail
Tony was trying to feed Punk's ego by giving him his own show
Booker's blue chew commercial is more entertaining than dynamite.
I geuss Tony Kahn didn’t study the history of wcw going out of business and now they are following in the footsteps of wcw
Booker T is being so political and playing both sides. Man call a spade a spade. Jack Perry isn’t a damn scapegoat. He ran his mouth and was told not to do something and did it anyway, also while live took a shot a him and said real glass cry me a river. CM Punk confronted him he talked tough and got his ass humbled. Booker T knows being in the business and having a scrap with Batista himself knows how this works. At the end of the Day Tony Kahn isn’t built to be a boss, he’s a fan/mark of wrestling with a lot of money. Stop trying to make Punk the problem. The drive thru/experience is probably the most accurate take on what’s happening without the politics
I was waiting for Booker's definitive take on this!
For me AEW had a legit chance, maybe to not beat WWE but they had a chance to be something really good, however it went south very very fast. They dropped the ball, and need a change in a bad way
Now that CM PUNK is with WWE y'all being nice to him but before he came back y'all was trashing him.
Facts Booker T was talking like he wanted to whip Punk ass every topic about him 😂😂😂😂😂
AEW reminds me of a bonafide WCW 2000, just can’t get into!!
Just like Tony Snowman, this guy doesn't really know what "lunged" means.
Ps brad you the got the reason why he wasn't fired
As much AEW is a joke, Punk just comes off unprofessional constantly if he's angry. The media scrum thing shows that. He was pissed about Page "going into business for himself" during a promo, then says things (even if true) that should have never been said in public. Everyone that's happy he is back in WWE, just wait until something backstage doesn't go his way.
You'd be angry too if your boss didn't do shit about the drama that you had nothing to do with.
Yeah the evps were completely innocent 😂😂
@dvsmike and yet, instead of just going out and having his match with Joe on the biggest event in the company, he first choose to go out of his way to confront a mid carded and assault him. Grow up in the real world, that's assault. You don't attack a co-worker because they don't listen to your advice or don't respect you. He could have just had the match, and when he got to the States, contacted his lawyer to get out of his contract.
@WrestlingIsReal649 never said they was
@garyshaver1945 This ain't your typical corporate job where assault is not the way to handle things. Even Omega made reference to it. Sometimes you gotta fight. I have seen it as a wrestler myself. The competitive nature of the business brings it out of you. You have to fight sometimes.
When a petulant child like Perry is talking to you the way he did, thinking that his boss is right there and he will be protected by the evps, that challenge "why don't you do something about it" is fighting words. It wasn't even a legit fight either, it was scuffle, a skirmish, a little push around.
Don't give me this corporate human resources bs of assault, Perry should have kept his mouth shut and not said shit. That's a public call out, yeah man, I'm coming at you to find out wtf. Punk is professional until he doesn't have to be. He is the only trying to do business, every one else is still in high school trying to play wrestler.
The footage only made them look foolish & petty. Tony Klown is a buffoon. 😂😂😂
Maybe a firing offense at Dunder Mifflin, not in the rasslin’ business
Wrestling community and TH-camrs: This was a bad idea blah, blah, blah.
Me: You ain't talking about day after Wrestlemania.
Most you folks have been focused on this. There was alot other things to cover.
And the video is a gimmick for Jack Perry's Scapegoat.
Folks, in pro wrestling, there is never such a thing as bad press.
You can't be fired if you quite first
He didn't quit first because he wrestled after this altercation. Also, would violate the contract.
The white guy is way cooler than the black guy and I’m a black guy this is a crazy moment in black history smh
Booker T is always going to have a snubs input
With-uhn days.
They should have aired the footage on the pay per view 😂.
Punk quit . That’s why he was “fired” 😂
Toom yall long enough to speak on it lol
Im not defending Jack but Cm Blank went after him first im not Jack fan let be real and yes have day Cm blank now because youtube warned me will banned me permanently off youtube so I can't say cetern words when don't actually break rules but so many rules popping up hard not break any .. so Cm Blank is yes I was warned once calling his full wrestling name 😂 Tony need forget wwe not sure why going down rabbit hole every other promotion went after WWE failed they focus just there enemy's not people working with
Jack perry did start it lol play stupid games and win stupid prizes
Booker T is the best. 😂
The old tv show Dynasty had better storylines than AEW.
Booker T reminds me of AEW, a big joke.
Jack should never come back to aew and better for him go to wwe