Spears are so overlooked in comparison to the other battlefield weapons, but it's important to remember that the spear is what dominated the field. There's a reason in Chinese we refer to it as the "king of weapons".
I think the biggest part is the spear is more effective for conscripts than other arms. Even for a well trained military, you're going to have a bad day facing superior numbers of farmers with pointy sticks.
@@quintessenceSL The spear and crossbow (in East Asia) yep. But the other parts are that they're more effective than other melee arms in formation; and more effective than most other melee arms in a dueling situation (some other polearms can beat it here); and more effective than most other melee arms on horseback (as the lance); and you can also carry some other melee arms as backup (spearmen tend to carry swords too).
A lance is a very different weapon than a spear, at least in Europe. A spear is usually about 8ft long but up to 10 or 11 ft in the long and is hardly tapered. The Lance in Europe is about 14 to 18 ft long and it's very tapered along most of the weight in the back where you can couch the Lance. This made the Lance maneuvering very easily on horseback making a maneuverable armored Phalanx formation on horseback allowing knights to charge and maneuver effortlessly running down infantry formations easily with their full armor that is virtually impervious to spears, arrows, and crossbow bolts. Then you had Pikes which is pretty similar to Lance in dimension but it was designed more like a spear but extremely long I think it was around 14th up to 20 ft. Then the Swiss added halberds in the pike formations to help countered armored opponents better. Then the Germans, the Italians and the Spanish created greatswords with many with perry hooks on the blade that can counter pikes, Spears and polearms pretty well.
@@landsknecht8654 Chinese Daqiang (great spears) of the Ming era were pretty heavily tapered, but I'll admit to ignorance about how other kinds of spears were built and used!
@@DarkwarriorJah that kind of sounds more like a short pike, but that's interesting. I did notice that some Native American tribe had these long 11 to 13 ft Spears but they're very thin and flexible used pretty different than other people. In the West the spear was a very good weapon but I don't think we would consider the spear as the king of all weapons, the Roman Legions before the Middle Ages have countered the spear on foot with their big shield and short swords pretty well. But the Romans did have their own spear units mostly against Cavalry though. The spear was good for soldiers that didn't train very much, and it pretty useful against cavalry and still useful against infantry so it was a very good weapon but against well-trained soldiers with large two-handed swords especially if they had Perry hooks or soldiers and knights with sword and shields can counter them. And then with the invention of plate armor while Spears are still pretty popular other polearms like Polaxe, and halberd in how the Swiss design them arguably became more popular to deal with such armor soilders and knights.
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@@bakkudeku But I'd argue that the spear also has the lowest skill floor, in gaming terms. You need to practice a good bit to become adept at using a sword or a staff. But a spear is intuitive and relatively simple in its idea; stick em with the pointy end, stay in mid range, don't get too close.
@@6393dude No, I do mean lowest I believe. As I understand it, a low-floor-high-ceiling weapon (ie. the spear) is easy to learn and hard to master as it offers vast room for improvement, while a high-floor-low-ceiling weapon (maybe crossbow at higher than close range, to learn how to aim and reload) would be one that is hard to learn in the first place, but once you did there's not much more to it.
@@Buphido My understanding of "floor/ceiling" is that easy to learn means high floor. A spear needs little training to be effective, therefore it's a high floor weapon. In relation to sports, a high floor athlete will never be terrible, even on a bad day. Same applies to the spear for it's ease of use. A low floor weapon to me would be like a war bow, which takes considerable training to be even marginally effective.
It really is. Though to be fair most historical uses of the spear in battle would be in formation fights, not one on one like this so the techniques that got used where probably a bit different. . . For one you'd either have a shield or have someone with a shield infront of you
@@manfredconnor3194 I would not necessarily say it is a fail, just more a "how to use a military spear in a duel with another spear wielder" which is, naturally, not where such spears are typically employed as you either fought duels with swords, pistols or some such or you had people working in teams/formations and with shields and/or backup weapons.
@@accywacky2699That would depend upon the context though would it not. Didnt duels in Ancient Greece always start with spears. Also, I have seen treatises depicting this situation a few times.
The tricky thing I didn’t realize until watching this practical battle is how quickly the long pole strike can be launched with so little telegraphing. Like cueing a pool stick, a flick forward with the rear arm, sliding along the front hand, the acceleration is like a cobra strike. Hard to block against. Not at all like the Kung Fu movies with the twirling and spinning.
"Thrusts we are, of greatest offense And we make our dispute to all strikes; Venomous we are, more than a serpent, And we kill more people than any strike; And our thrusts to the blows do say: So little do you cut that we sew like a needle." Fiore de'i Liberi
Spinning is an actual thing too, just not how most media show it, you turn the weapon inward as part of a thrust to allow lunges to penetrate more smoothly
It’s impressive dodging it too because it’s hard to perceive the distance well, especially while managing your stamina under that mask, which also hinders vision
My karate sensei gave three good reasons for the twirling and spinning. First, it confuses the opponent. As noted, an attack can come from barely any setup, so keeping them guessing when and from what angle the attack is coming is a viable strategy. Second. A spear isnt a weapon. Its two. So mixing in the sweeping hits and spinning parries of staff fighting is also viable. Third. The threat of incidental or collateral hits on those around you from spins and twirls is likely to discourage others from joining your fight, keeping the battle as a 1v1. Likely. Not guaranteed but also nonzero.
The extra reach really ramps up the power. As soon as you introduce a swinging polearm like a poleaxe or halberd, if it is build to withstand light impact, it will knock a person out or break bones when used against any reasonable amount of padding that still allows movement by either person. That's why even lacrosse and hockey have rules about how you can swing their sticks. Even though they are made of super light material and much shorter in length compared to historical weapons. It's a safety issue.
Recently been studying the polarms material in 무예도보통지 and have enjoyed cataloging the overlap between this and the spear/staff/halberd material of Joachim Meyer. Jack Chen from Singapore also has some great stuff worth looking at in this area.
Emmmm The Germans, the Italians and the Spanish created greatswords with many of them with perry hooks on the blade that can counter pikes, Spears and polearms pretty well... Also not to mention the Roman Legions have been known to counter the spear in foot combat as well with there large shields and short swords.
@@landsknecht8654 You should watch a video in this very channel, where a single spearman went toe to toe with 3 swordsmen, and came out victorious a lot of the time. Spears ARE the king of melee weapons for its range, ease of use, ease of production, etc etc.
@@f1r3hunt3rz5 I was talking about the battlefield & formations. One on one or small skirmish fighting is kind of a different story. I'm going to see if I can find the video, because very long great swords, especially the ones with parrying hooks on the blade (not to mention cross-guards) are designed to counter polearms, and such while being a sword. Greatswords were also used as a short spear while simultaneously being used as a sword with parrying hooks for extra protection and capture a blade or pole. Such a weapon gave the best of both worlds. As for the Romans, their big shield was a huge obstacle for almost any weapon to overcome that a Roman soilder can rush in by passing the spearhead with his big sheild than attack the Spearman. On top of that, if you are dealing with a man in full plate armor or 2/3 plate armor, a poleax will probably be a much better weapon. Against something like plate armor and chain-mail, while spears are still a very capable weapon, there are other weapons that deal with other certain things. That's why I personally disagree with the idea of the spear being the king of all weapons. I'll take a look at that video, maybe changes my mind I don't know, than again I do historical fencing too but with a shorter end of a German Longsword of about 47 inches long almsot a bastard Sword, I will like to get a 53 and a half inch German Longsword from Siggi though.
I really appreciate how these guys fight effectively, while still making it look very aesthetically pleasing! Oftentimes, sparring looks like a mess, but this looked very deliberate
I notice in a lot of other sparring videos online, especially when doing spear vs sword, they use extremely short spears that are around longsword length. Perhaps it's to keep things fair for the swordsmen, but I don't think they are historically accurate length. The spears they are using here are much longer than those.
There's a variant of portuguese commoner's stick "varapau", used in "Jogo do Pau", that has a butt spike to be used as a spear in conflict. As those were illegalized, they were often concealed by a wood "cover sheath". Know a guy whose grandfather's friend died to a brawl between "Jogo do Pau" practicioners. Maybe that was used in the fight.
@@sammyjones6730 it is hard to find a long shaft. Since there is no need for those in modern life. Mine has a 180cm shaft it's around 210 cm with the spearhead.
Great content! Would you be willing to explore adding grappling (grabbing the spear) + drawing a side-arm (short sword, dagger etc.) when you close the distance? My sense is this would be a key strategy historically for the use of polearms. Adding disarming/throwing would be another great topic as well.
Thank you for the video, it was very informative. It's good to see that there are some people helping to preserve these neglected parts of humanity's cultural past.
What a lot of people don't understand about actual combat is that (even in modern times) youre never going to be using your small weapon in an actual combat scenario. Back then, swords were only a SIDEARM. If you're down to your sword, you're already losing because the medieval main weapons are pikes, spears, Halberds, and the like. Reach and power were king back then. Even nowadays, if you're in combat, you're using those AR-15s and likewise similar assault/heavy rifles. Pistols are personal defense and sidearms 95% of the time.
Nope, pistols are weapons given to officers so that they do not fight, but instead direct their men. They are defensive weapons, but only officers and crewmen are issued them. Soldiers are not usually issued pistols.
AR-15 is not a combat weapon it is a civilian sporting gun based on combat models. It would be more like a long sword where as an M4 or AK or better yet a M60 is the polearms and halberds of today
Not necessarily. Gladius armed Roman legions usually made short work of the Greek style Phalanx, unless they fought on completely flat terrain where the pike formation could stay coherent, then they could sometimes score a god old Pyrrhic victory.
I don't think they can find anyone who can practice spear and shield. There's no remaining manual or script about it at least in Korea, and it will be more proper when it performed as a reenactment not as a duel or sparring.
2-handed spear might actually be better for dueling since you are better able to handle the length and weight. These particular spears would probably not work well in 1 hand judging by how much they were complaining about the weight. Spear and shield is effective on a battlefield when you have support and don't need to do such complex moves.
@@ArmoredPapercup24 They don't have to use korean spear/shield. Hundreds of armies from all over the world have used it historically. Weaponism has proven they have a lot of variety in weaponry/technique so I don't think it should be a problem for them to attempt to perform foreign techniques.
Spear is just an extension of limbs. If one cannot maintain proper structure while holding/thrusting the spear, the attack will be weak and direction of force will only be unidirectional. Your front hand is the axis and back hand provide the leverage. Experience Lancer can exert two or three directional force at the same time, eg downward pressure while thrusting. Think of a bridge, the force is coming from the structure not movement.
once they pass 1/3 or your spear, your spear becomes useless, so one needs to switch grip and chance attack type. Probably change to swinging the opposite side of the spear.
@@YAOZII yeah ur body the same shape the weapons the same shape there's only so many thing u can do and ur seeking effective stuff as u die if it's bad moves
Honestly it's going to be very similar, I thought this was European martial arts as first because they do the same thing. Now the armored fighting will be arguably very different with these weapons. But maybe not so much with the Europeans and Japanese since they had full suits of armors those two probably would be pretty similar in their spear techniques against armor.
Now if you realise that on battlefield you couldn't dodge so easily even if you were in first line, you can imagine the chaos and casualty that first lines suffered.
Even if the pole weighted 1.5 kg, with 2m lenght it takes great stamina to swing it around and the polemaster are right, it GETS VERY HEAVY when you get hit and must swing the pole back fast!
Very chinese way of fencing the spear. Although it doesnt give much. It has been used like that all over i guess :D Do your shafts taper towards the point? As per usual among the best fencing content on this platform. Cheers!
The Spear always will be and always has been the King of Melee weapons. There's just no opposition for what mankind has used for thousands of years. Especially its Halberd and Glaive variations. The sword is definitely cooler in most cases, though. It's a status symbol. For ranged weapons, you have a Gun, and RPG.
This was so cool to watch! At first I thought that the opponet on the right was against a baddass in an armor but it turns out the guy on the left died horribly so many times 😂 💀 It makes me want to try it myself
In europe the spear is held horizontal, with the point always pointing at what you want to kill. You dont hold it pointing upward. Normally you would not work alone but a pikeman with an axe head on the end of the spear would be beside you. You thrust the spear, and they chop down. The front line of spears would ram together and the pike men would start slamming the axe heads down in a large battle. If you were well trained you could aim better for longer, and sidestep and dodge while doing it, but youd need luck too
The trick is to defelect and change your grip for a rush in. In Europe soldiers would keep a dagger to press in, drop spear, and shank the shit out of their not as skilled opponent.
Wow you can really see how the spear is such a formidable weapon in battle. Compared to the sword, you are able to keep a safe distance while still being able to stab your opponent. But if your opponent can get within the reach of your spear, I guess you are in serious trouble.
Don´t freeze up in one spot when attacking, you give away at least a meter or so by stopping. There for you should keep a tighter stance and stab through your opponent. Use the momentum when stepping inside to thrust, than it gets realy dangerous. Maybe get some armour than as well ;-)...
But keep in mind, there is a big difference between two people with lot it space dueling with spears and two people fighting in tight formations on the battlefield. What I‘m trying to say: Using military spears does not mean fighting military battles. :)
Spears are more suitable in tight formations since all you need to do is thrust, with other weapons like swords and such, you need to cut and swing which requires more space.
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Spears are so overlooked in comparison to the other battlefield weapons, but it's important to remember that the spear is what dominated the field. There's a reason in Chinese we refer to it as the "king of weapons".
I think the biggest part is the spear is more effective for conscripts than other arms.
Even for a well trained military, you're going to have a bad day facing superior numbers of farmers with pointy sticks.
@@quintessenceSL The spear and crossbow (in East Asia) yep.
But the other parts are that they're more effective than other melee arms in formation; and more effective than most other melee arms in a dueling situation (some other polearms can beat it here); and more effective than most other melee arms on horseback (as the lance); and you can also carry some other melee arms as backup (spearmen tend to carry swords too).
A lance is a very different weapon than a spear, at least in Europe. A spear is usually about 8ft long but up to 10 or 11 ft in the long and is hardly tapered. The Lance in Europe is about 14 to 18 ft long and it's very tapered along most of the weight in the back where you can couch the Lance. This made the Lance maneuvering very easily on horseback making a maneuverable armored Phalanx formation on horseback allowing knights to charge and maneuver effortlessly running down infantry formations easily with their full armor that is virtually impervious to spears, arrows, and crossbow bolts.
Then you had Pikes which is pretty similar to Lance in dimension but it was designed more like a spear but extremely long I think it was around 14th up to 20 ft. Then the Swiss added halberds in the pike formations to help countered armored opponents better.
Then the Germans, the Italians and the Spanish created greatswords with many with perry hooks on the blade that can counter pikes, Spears and polearms pretty well.
@@landsknecht8654 Chinese Daqiang (great spears) of the Ming era were pretty heavily tapered, but I'll admit to ignorance about how other kinds of spears were built and used!
@@DarkwarriorJah that kind of sounds more like a short pike, but that's interesting.
I did notice that some Native American tribe had these long 11 to 13 ft Spears but they're very thin and flexible used pretty different than other people.
In the West the spear was a very good weapon but I don't think we would consider the spear as the king of all weapons, the Roman Legions before the Middle Ages have countered the spear on foot with their big shield and short swords pretty well. But the Romans did have their own spear units mostly against Cavalry though.
The spear was good for soldiers that didn't train very much, and it pretty useful against cavalry and still useful against infantry so it was a very good weapon but against well-trained soldiers with large two-handed swords especially if they had Perry hooks or soldiers and knights with sword and shields can counter them. And then with the invention of plate armor while Spears are still pretty popular other polearms like Polaxe, and halberd in how the Swiss design them arguably became more popular to deal with such armor soilders and knights.
two guys having a spear duel under a bridge goes so fucking hard
Sword dancer in background. Looks like street fighter stage.
sword dancing NUN, but yeah i agree it really does.
Nice skills from her side actually, looks like proper cossack shashka dancing.
Thank you so much! It was a great pleasure to watch such an epic fight! >_
@@MagnusIgnisLacerta sword dancing NUN >_< thank you!!
@@umartdagnir thank you for your compliment. Yes, I have learned cossack shashka dancing. Good to hear that my skill is proper one!
"Staff for a month, sword for a year. Spear for a lifetime."
(Background by ChatGPT 3.5) "This phrase is a proverbial expression often used in martial arts and military contexts to emphasize the progression of proficiency and commitment with different weapons. It suggests that mastering the staff may take a month, mastering the sword may take a year, but mastering the spear may take a lifetime due to its complexity and versatility. It highlights the idea that the spear, as a weapon, requires a deeper understanding and continuous practice to achieve mastery."
@@bakkudeku But I'd argue that the spear also has the lowest skill floor, in gaming terms. You need to practice a good bit to become adept at using a sword or a staff. But a spear is intuitive and relatively simple in its idea; stick em with the pointy end, stay in mid range, don't get too close.
@@Buphido Don't you mean highest floor? I agree with your point though
@@6393dude No, I do mean lowest I believe. As I understand it, a low-floor-high-ceiling weapon (ie. the spear) is easy to learn and hard to master as it offers vast room for improvement, while a high-floor-low-ceiling weapon (maybe crossbow at higher than close range, to learn how to aim and reload) would be one that is hard to learn in the first place, but once you did there's not much more to it.
@@Buphido My understanding of "floor/ceiling" is that easy to learn means high floor. A spear needs little training to be effective, therefore it's a high floor weapon. In relation to sports, a high floor athlete will never be terrible, even on a bad day. Same applies to the spear for it's ease of use. A low floor weapon to me would be like a war bow, which takes considerable training to be even marginally effective.
Seeing this just made me realize how easy it is to die against a spear, I see that the control of the distance plays so much here
I'd never really thought about what a longspear duel would look like. Interesting techniques.
It really is. Though to be fair most historical uses of the spear in battle would be in formation fights, not one on one like this so the techniques that got used where probably a bit different. . . For one you'd either have a shield or have someone with a shield infront of you
@@accywacky2699Yes! Exactly my point as well! Thank you and bravo. This is: "How to use a military spear FAIL!"
@@manfredconnor3194 I would not necessarily say it is a fail, just more a "how to use a military spear in a duel with another spear wielder" which is, naturally, not where such spears are typically employed as you either fought duels with swords, pistols or some such or you had people working in teams/formations and with shields and/or backup weapons.
Technique is from an M16 with a bayonet, but it is 2 times shorter.
@@accywacky2699That would depend upon the context though would it not. Didnt duels in Ancient Greece always start with spears. Also, I have seen treatises depicting this situation a few times.
The tricky thing I didn’t realize until watching this practical battle is how quickly the long pole strike can be launched with so little telegraphing. Like cueing a pool stick, a flick forward with the rear arm, sliding along the front hand, the acceleration is like a cobra strike. Hard to block against. Not at all like the Kung Fu movies with the twirling and spinning.
"Thrusts we are, of greatest offense
And we make our dispute to all strikes;
Venomous we are, more than a serpent,
And we kill more people than any strike;
And our thrusts to the blows do say:
So little do you cut that we sew like a needle."
Fiore de'i Liberi
Spinning is an actual thing too, just not how most media show it, you turn the weapon inward as part of a thrust to allow lunges to penetrate more smoothly
It’s impressive dodging it too because it’s hard to perceive the distance well, especially while managing your stamina under that mask, which also hinders vision
Also you can quickly change direction of attack. You can show that you want attack legs and then quickly attack head instead
My karate sensei gave three good reasons for the twirling and spinning.
First, it confuses the opponent. As noted, an attack can come from barely any setup, so keeping them guessing when and from what angle the attack is coming is a viable strategy.
Second. A spear isnt a weapon. Its two. So mixing in the sweeping hits and spinning parries of staff fighting is also viable.
Third. The threat of incidental or collateral hits on those around you from spins and twirls is likely to discourage others from joining your fight, keeping the battle as a 1v1. Likely. Not guaranteed but also nonzero.
Everyone knows that spears rule the battlefield but we still don't give them enough love. Fantastic sparring.
Please do more long weapon content! Staff, spear or other polearms would be fun to watch!
You can't really find a lot of spear based martial arts because it's too dangerous
The extra reach really ramps up the power. As soon as you introduce a swinging polearm like a poleaxe or halberd, if it is build to withstand light impact, it will knock a person out or break bones when used against any reasonable amount of padding that still allows movement by either person.
That's why even lacrosse and hockey have rules about how you can swing their sticks. Even though they are made of super light material and much shorter in length compared to historical weapons.
It's a safety issue.
props for the left hand representation to the spear guy on the right of the video! Left-hand pride!
It's good to finally see people who know how to hold and thrust the spear to take maximum advantage of its length.
Recently been studying the polarms material in 무예도보통지 and have enjoyed cataloging the overlap between this and the spear/staff/halberd material of Joachim Meyer. Jack Chen from Singapore also has some great stuff worth looking at in this area.
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Jack does some real quality work!
These are some impressive fighting techniques. Not just theory, only skill.
Hello everyone! I am the sword dancer in the background. Please leave comments if there are any questions about my sword dancing. Thank you!
You looked great!
Are you the one with two sabres?
@@arystanbeck914 Pretty sure they are
I was enjoying the dual wield battle nun in the background there.
That looks awesome
Gotta give it to that sword dancer in the background
Thank you >_
as a side note - impressive sword display in the background as well :)
Thank you! >_
The real king of the the melee weapons that should be more celebrated than the sword.
Emmmm
The Germans, the Italians and the Spanish created greatswords with many of them with perry hooks on the blade that can counter pikes, Spears and polearms pretty well...
Also not to mention the Roman Legions have been known to counter the spear in foot combat as well with there large shields and short swords.
@@landsknecht8654 You should watch a video in this very channel, where a single spearman went toe to toe with 3 swordsmen, and came out victorious a lot of the time. Spears ARE the king of melee weapons for its range, ease of use, ease of production, etc etc.
@@f1r3hunt3rz5 I was talking about the battlefield & formations. One on one or small skirmish fighting is kind of a different story. I'm going to see if I can find the video, because very long great swords, especially the ones with parrying hooks on the blade (not to mention cross-guards) are designed to counter polearms, and such while being a sword.
Greatswords were also used as a short spear while simultaneously being used as a sword with parrying hooks for extra protection and capture a blade or pole. Such a weapon gave the best of both worlds.
As for the Romans, their big shield was a huge obstacle for almost any weapon to overcome that a Roman soilder can rush in by passing the spearhead with his big sheild than attack the Spearman.
On top of that, if you are dealing with a man in full plate armor or 2/3 plate armor, a poleax will probably be a much better weapon. Against something like plate armor and chain-mail, while spears are still a very capable weapon, there are other weapons that deal with other certain things. That's why I personally disagree with the idea of the spear being the king of all weapons.
I'll take a look at that video, maybe changes my mind I don't know, than again I do historical fencing too but with a shorter end of a German Longsword of about 47 inches long almsot a bastard Sword, I will like to get a 53 and a half inch German Longsword from Siggi though.
I really appreciate how these guys fight effectively, while still making it look very aesthetically pleasing! Oftentimes, sparring looks like a mess, but this looked very deliberate
If i was a medieval warrior I would definitely seek this weapon out. I love thật long range leverage game.
Some really nice dodges!
that implies the existence of the non military spear.
Hunting spears exist.
I notice in a lot of other sparring videos online, especially when doing spear vs sword, they use extremely short spears that are around longsword length. Perhaps it's to keep things fair for the swordsmen, but I don't think they are historically accurate length. The spears they are using here are much longer than those.
There's a variant of portuguese commoner's stick "varapau", used in "Jogo do Pau", that has a butt spike to be used as a spear in conflict. As those were illegalized, they were often concealed by a wood "cover sheath".
Know a guy whose grandfather's friend died to a brawl between "Jogo do Pau" practicioners. Maybe that was used in the fight.
@@BernasLL life was hard in portugal then
@@sammyjones6730 it is hard to find a long shaft. Since there is no need for those in modern life. Mine has a 180cm shaft it's around 210 cm with the spearhead.
The spear is so much fun to use! One of my fav weapons to play with!
This is a fucking I N S A N E backdrop
Great content! Would you be willing to explore adding grappling (grabbing the spear) + drawing a side-arm (short sword, dagger etc.) when you close the distance? My sense is this would be a key strategy historically for the use of polearms. Adding disarming/throwing would be another great topic as well.
Thank you for the video, it was very informative. It's good to see that there are some people helping to preserve these neglected parts of humanity's cultural past.
What a lot of people don't understand about actual combat is that (even in modern times) youre never going to be using your small weapon in an actual combat scenario. Back then, swords were only a SIDEARM. If you're down to your sword, you're already losing because the medieval main weapons are pikes, spears, Halberds, and the like. Reach and power were king back then.
Even nowadays, if you're in combat, you're using those AR-15s and likewise similar assault/heavy rifles. Pistols are personal defense and sidearms 95% of the time.
Nope, pistols are weapons given to officers so that they do not fight, but instead direct their men. They are defensive weapons, but only officers and crewmen are issued them. Soldiers are not usually issued pistols.
AR-15 is not a combat weapon it is a civilian sporting gun based on combat models. It would be more like a long sword where as an M4 or AK or better yet a M60 is the polearms and halberds of today
Reach and power are still king; what do you think a cruise missile is? :P
Not necessarily. Gladius armed Roman legions usually made short work of the Greek style Phalanx, unless they fought on completely flat terrain where the pike formation could stay coherent, then they could sometimes score a god old Pyrrhic victory.
@@1112viggo That's true, but that's a special case. Usually, the pike lines/Glaive/Halberds win in most other parts of the world.
Could you show spear and shield against spear and shield? Rarely see that in weapon culture despite that matchup being super popular historically
I don't think they can find anyone who can practice spear and shield.
There's no remaining manual or script about it at least in Korea, and it will be more proper when it performed as a reenactment not as a duel or sparring.
2-handed spear might actually be better for dueling since you are better able to handle the length and weight. These particular spears would probably not work well in 1 hand judging by how much they were complaining about the weight.
Spear and shield is effective on a battlefield when you have support and don't need to do such complex moves.
@@ArmoredPapercup24 They don't have to use korean spear/shield. Hundreds of armies from all over the world have used it historically. Weaponism has proven they have a lot of variety in weaponry/technique so I don't think it should be a problem for them to attempt to perform foreign techniques.
Italian bolognese has Partizan and Rotella, try looking at them
@@mindroverjpc a duel with spear and shield would probably use shorter one handed spears, like the Zulu assegai
This made me want to learn spear fighting for real.
Good training session 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing 😊
Spear is just an extension of limbs. If one cannot maintain proper structure while holding/thrusting the spear, the attack will be weak and direction of force will only be unidirectional.
Your front hand is the axis and back hand provide the leverage.
Experience Lancer can exert two or three directional force at the same time, eg downward pressure while thrusting.
Think of a bridge, the force is coming from the structure not movement.
Interesting, I have seen sword vs. spear a lot. The spearmen holds the spear much differently when they expect to get rushed.
once they pass 1/3 or your spear, your spear becomes useless, so one needs to switch grip and chance attack type. Probably change to swinging the opposite side of the spear.
As a military expert, I can confirm that this is quite accurate.
Insane skillz !!
Do Japan spear vs Chinese spear vs Western spear please
They r basically the same thing 😂all just to poke people with a sharp point on a long pole
@@YAOZII yeah ur body the same shape the weapons the same shape there's only so many thing u can do and ur seeking effective stuff as u die if it's bad moves
Honestly it's going to be very similar, I thought this was European martial arts as first because they do the same thing.
Now the armored fighting will be arguably very different with these weapons. But maybe not so much with the Europeans and Japanese since they had full suits of armors those two probably would be pretty similar in their spear techniques against armor.
Now if you realise that on battlefield you couldn't dodge so easily even if you were in first line, you can imagine the chaos and casualty that first lines suffered.
This isn't battlefield formation fighting. This is 1v1 spear, in the round. It could be a duel, and there were spear duels in history for certain.
Hence the need for shields.
or they just die like crazy like those push of pikes or those levies.@@skyereave9454
Nice fight, as usual on your channel!
Nice! Have you tried the famous sword against spear in some variants?
They have done it
Try early videos, they even done 3 swordsmen vs 1 spearman
Spears are to rifles with swords are to pistols
I love that place. Such a nice ambience.
Actually, I couldn´t stop at the people doing sword dance in the background. That is cool xD
Can you show the basic, intermediate, and advance techniques?
Perfect spearfigthing.👏🙏
Awesome 👍🏻
Wonderful to see some spear fencing! Is this Fiore or Vadi, or a combination of both?
Can you tell me something about the construction of the spear? What kind of wood? How long is it? What historical model did you use? This is great! :)
Thank you
reminds me of Kung Fu training I did as a kid, but actually testing it. I would have really loved doing this instead of Kata's (forms).
Fantastic!
The person with white gloves is amazing
Круто! Мне очень понравилось
I am now prepared for any spear on spear encounters in my future.
thanks
Even if the pole weighted 1.5 kg, with 2m lenght it takes great stamina to swing it around and the polemaster are right, it GETS VERY HEAVY when you get hit and must swing the pole back fast!
I always think of spear and shield or javelin and shield i’d be excited to see what thats like
I am so jealous of cities with proper HEMA organizations.
impressive ! handling a 1.5kg spear with speed is not easy, well done !
The heavily armored fighter- what leg and arm gear are they using? Looks nice
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Great showcase of a long pike's strength: keep it simple, move your hands a little and stick 'em with the point.
1.5 kilos is light as far as weapons go, but there is may be massive torque involved and that takes energy.
Very chinese way of fencing the spear. Although it doesnt give much. It has been used like that all over i guess :D
Do your shafts taper towards the point?
As per usual among the best fencing content on this platform. Cheers!
Nice👍
That was epic
The greatest weapon ever created.
창이라는 무기가 이렇게 표현 되어진다는 것을 보니 정말 이해가 갑니다. 상대방을 공격 할때 실패한다면 바로 방어 영역 까지 움직여야 역공을 당하지 않네요...
simply fantastic.
The Spear always will be and always has been the King of Melee weapons.
There's just no opposition for what mankind has used for thousands of years.
Especially its Halberd and Glaive variations.
The sword is definitely cooler in most cases, though. It's a status symbol.
For ranged weapons, you have a Gun, and RPG.
excellent
This was so cool to watch! At first I thought that the opponet on the right was against a baddass in an armor but it turns out the guy on the left died horribly so many times 😂 💀 It makes me want to try it myself
Do you know the brand of the knee/chin pads of the fighter on left ? Thanks a lot.
Nice 👌👌
reminds of wing chun's long pole
Why so important on the battlefield? Reach, reach, reach. Cost, cost, cost.
Corner pocket, shoulder
How well does the gambeson prevent bruising?
In europe the spear is held horizontal, with the point always pointing at what you want to kill. You dont hold it pointing upward. Normally you would not work alone but a pikeman with an axe head on the end of the spear would be beside you. You thrust the spear, and they chop down. The front line of spears would ram together and the pike men would start slamming the axe heads down in a large battle. If you were well trained you could aim better for longer, and sidestep and dodge while doing it, but youd need luck too
Looking this up after being hyped by Kaladins chapters in The Way of Kings and Words of Radiance
The trick is to defelect and change your grip for a rush in. In Europe soldiers would keep a dagger to press in, drop spear, and shank the shit out of their not as skilled opponent.
Посмотрел бы такие соревнования👍
where did you get the gear? 👀
Spears are the Best Battlefield Weapons.
Wow you can really see how the spear is such a formidable weapon in battle. Compared to the sword, you are able to keep a safe distance while still being able to stab your opponent. But if your opponent can get within the reach of your spear, I guess you are in serious trouble.
Very nice! Do you know "jogo do pau" from Portugal? It would be very interesting to see if you can find a master
What armor pieces is the left guy using? Looks good and protective.
I'm wondering too, who is the fencer on the left? Great armor
@@Brightandheavy bumping this request for armor reference
Can anyone help me on where i can get a sparring spear like that? Would really appreciate any help!
Don´t freeze up in one spot when attacking, you give away at least a meter or so by stopping. There for you should keep a tighter stance and stab through your opponent. Use the momentum when stepping inside to thrust, than it gets realy dangerous. Maybe get some armour than as well ;-)...
👐👏👏👏muy buen trabajo.
I want to spar now. Love weapon fighting
Spears must be very hard to just grab because that's what my couch warrior brain tells me😅
The hoplitai and phalangitai used them to great effects it's just military tactics that brought the end ofvphalanx
MILITARY spear? Two groups opposing, eight rows in a group, and all fellows push forward.
Excellent situation to train fencing.
what treaty is this?
What kind of protection do you use to protect your knees ?
hope
Dangerous.
Reminds me of playing pool or billiards. I wonder if there is some relation.
Прекрасно. Оба молодцы.
Interesting 🤔
what is the spear's material?
But keep in mind, there is a big difference between two people with lot it space dueling with spears and two people fighting in tight formations on the battlefield. What I‘m trying to say: Using military spears does not mean fighting military battles. :)
Spears are more suitable in tight formations since all you need to do is thrust, with other weapons like swords and such, you need to cut and swing which requires more space.
I wanna do halberdjutsu lol