Sherie kinda feels like a mobster. A lobster mobster. I still prefer Pat Carroll, she feels so evil and seductive. I feel like she’s putting on act to manipulate Ariel but you know she’s willing to kill her at a moment’s notice. Also the character was loosely based on drag, and Pat’s voice kinda sounds like a tired yet fabulous drag queen.
You need to be more objective when you compare the different iterations of the character. Judging by the way you talk about the actresses, It’s very obvious to me that you are a Melissa fan and completely dislike Queen Latifah.
It makes since that Ursula in the original is trying to be more upbeat and happy because she is trying to foul Arial into thinking she is a good person who wants to help so she doesn't want Arial to be scared away.
Pat Carrol has talked about that Ursula is trying to play soft and sweet to convince Ariel she was trying to help her. She slowly grows more aggressive and manic as the song progresses until it’s too late.
Exactly! It's called storytelling! And the part where she says pathetic is supposed to be whispered to flotsam and jetsam, not just uttered out loud like Melissa does. Fail.
Exactly she’s leading her into a false sense of security she should’ve just kept the comparison between Pat Carrol, Melissa, and Queen Latifah I think she’s a little bit too biased to Melissa you gotta remake the video and compare it fully
i actually like the original being lighter because ursula is trying to sell ariel this idea that she's this kind lady who help people, she's trying to get ariel to trust her; meanwhile in the new one the way melissa is singing is showing more the "true nature" of the character, which in the story doesn't make much sense because ariel wouldn't trust her even if she's desperate. both are great, but i think the original works better with the context
I think it works because in the Part of Your World reprise, Ariel basically conveyed that she is willing to do anything to be a part of the above world. So the first opportunity she had, even though she was a bit reluctant, she took it. The line Ursula said about her dad really pushed her over that edge to make the deal even though she didn't trust her.
Vocally Melissa was better IMO, but the original is the best at singing as the character. The original sang that song the way Ursula should sing the song: lighter, seemingly sweet and sincere, but really a manipulative liar. Vocal quality, Melissa is best. However, the original singer actress sings in character the best.
I think also the reason og Ursula sounds happy or almost gleeful while she's singing is not just because she's pretending to be sweet and sincere, but because she's proud of what she does. Proud of her abilities and history of Faustian bargains. And now she also 2:15 gets to start exacting her revenge against Triton at long last.
If you watch the original animated movie, Ursula worked and waited a loooong time for this opportunity, so she's doing her best to appear like a friendly, misunderstood person in order to get Ariel in her clutches. Frankly, anyone with half a brain would run far far away from Melissa's Ursula - and while Ariel has been portrayed as young and inexperienced, she's not stupid.
What I got from the new version, was that Ariel was very aware of how dangerous Ursula is, but at this point she was tired of her father and his disapprovals, and Ursula was the only one that was giving her a "solution" to her problems, so she took the only opportunity that she had. We know that she didn't trust Ursula, she tries to leave a one point. This Ariel is a lot more proactive than her animated counterpart, so I guess for this version it makes sense why she stayed (and also Ursula's pets lowkey drag her there)
yesss I love the way she expresses things throughout the entire song in such different ways. She has such an interesting voice and it brings so much to the character/song
Right? her voice matches what Ursula is trying to do. Pat made it a slow burn. Where shes playing coy about being a sea witch and how she ' helps ' people. RIP to the best Ursula.
People when judging the performances tend to forget the intention of the song. In this song Ursula tries to be sweat and convincing to Ariel and as the song goes by she loses more and more her patience, and Pat Carroll nails it on giving us that.
Pat and Melissa did it. However, unlike the OG version, Melissa's is more towards "Oh, those poor things. Where would they go if I hadn't helped them? 😩" and being all dramatic. While Pat's is leaning more towards "Don't be scared, darling. I can help you. 🤗" with a sprinkle of welcoming.
@@ralphaustinfernandez9851 Melissa sounds more "menacing" at the beginning, even if i was desperate, if i was trying to make a deal with someone and they didnt sound nice in the beginning or even trying to prove it i would leave and not go through with it. Melissa sounds more bothered as well as if making deals (which she knows shell get benefits from because she makes them in her favor) was a hassle for her to do. Over itd make me disinterested to continue with a deal if the person im trying to make a deal with sounds bothered, annoyed, and "cruel/menacing"
Pat Carroll's Ursula is always going to be my favorite. Her slightly lighter vocal take on the song betrays her con-artist glee that Ariel is in her clutches to forward her own (Ursula's) agenda. Ursula has two faces in the course of this song: the sales-person/con-artist and the real Ursula, and she ducks in and out of them at various points. One has to remember that she is trying to be as unthreatening to Ariel as possible in order to hook her into the scheme. Animated Ursula's voice is very deep and husky in her dialog, but for her song, she is energized with the prospect of her finally getting what her heart desires. (Note: I am coming in with no background in vocal training.)
Oh, Alan. The great Pat Carroll had the perfect analogy of this song. An ex Shakespearean Actress who sells used cars. PERFECTION in the description of Ursula and this song. Chef’s kiss 💋 .
Alan, apparently you don’t need any formal training to read and interpret a scene from a musical, because you just did expertly. This song isn’t supposed to be played straight. In the 90’s animated version this song is like “Trouble” from The Music Man. Ariel is the audience Ursula is playing to rather than us, and it’s all about putting on a show and (forgive the pun) reeling her in, so I think it’s a stronger choice to have the song show us what Ariel sees rather than Ursula’s true character. To be fair other interpretations could be equally valid with enough adjustments to support them, but personally, I Gotta go with Pat.
Pat’s version is so iconic, it sounds so light and sweet near the start because that’s Ursula’s way of luring in Ariel, it gets darker and a bit more aggressive as the song goes on to show her desperation to close the deal so she can gain the advantage she needs. I really love Melissa’s version though, I like the grit to her tone and the quirks she adds to her voice for it, I do like all four versions though so it’s hard to compare especially since 2 are live and 2 are studio recordings but Pat’s will always be my fave!
Pat Carroll's Ursula is character singing just as was Jodi Benson as Ariel. They were singing as their characters and not focused on any other way. In the 1989 film Ursula sounds happy because she is putting on a face and trying to convince Ariel that she was getting a good deal and that she is not a bad person. She throws in more emphasis into her acting while she sings to try to get Ariel to empathize with her. As we get to the final moments of the song she starts sounding more devious with a touch of excitement because she knows she is really close to getting what she ultimately wants. None of the songs in the 1989 animated film were meant to be sung by Broadway singers in the film. It is and always has been character singing in pretty much all of the Disney animated movies back then. The songs were adapted for Broadway, but they lost a lot in translation of the characters when the singers just started to focus on technique and not the character they play.
Er..I had to say both Pat Carroll and Odi Benson are boardway actor or actress had boardway background. Remember, during 1989, Howard Ashman had pursway disney must hire a boardway actor and actress to play the role because they can sing and act at the same time. Both The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast follow this direction strictly.
@@AAA839 What I meant when I said none of the characters were meant to be Broadway singers was Howard Ashman wanted less focus on technique, more focus on emoting through song, and making the character feel natural and identifiable to anyone. Howard knew Jodi could sing above how she sang in the animated film, but he was not looking for that. He was looking for personality and feeling in delivery of the song lyrics. There is video of him directing Jodi and whispering to her at some point to help her get into the mindset of the character he wrote the song for.
@@KYRSZ-gd1qt That true. Howard always say just told the story not to overly sing It. This is monologue. One of the problem with Live action is they kind of loss the balance with realistic or believability. Try to pleasing with Some group ignore the fact there had some intention to do that. Also Lack with space giving viewer imagination for what happen. Try to fix something that is not suppose to fix. When they said they are changing Howard Lyrics I can imagined How Howard would pissed and kept fighting to kept his lyrics. This is annoy me so much. As I grow up with Howard movie and hear so many story including his latest documentary. Disney really done the dirty work here. For example Some "modern fans" just disrespect the original approach both Jodi and Pat.and Kept saying new one is superior than any original. try to make the original is just for "old people" or accused them being Nostalgia. Not realize people had reason why they didn't like some changes in modern twist.
Queen Latifa was definitely the best thing about that semi-live event, which honestly says more about that production than it does about her. She's great, but not the best showcase of her talent. Similar issue with casting Shania Twain as Mrs. Potts in the Beauty and the Beast event. My ranking is a tie between Melissa and the original.
To me Melissa is the only one who holds a candle to the original, but I still overall prefer the original because of how it smoothly transitions from being nice/welcoming to creepy and foreboding. Especially towards the end when she says "now sing", sounds a lot more menacing in that version
And "What I want from you is.... YOUR VOICE" Then back to the car salesman schtick for a minute "You'l have your looks, your pretty face....And don't underestimate..." And then later with fevered intensity and consumate vocal chops "im a very busy woman, and I havn'et got all day. It won't cost much! JUST YOUR VOICE!" "If you want to cross the bridge my sweet, you've got to pay the toll Take a gulp and take a breath (muttered: And go ahead and sign the scroll) Flotsam, Jetsam, now I've got her, boys. Deep Sotto VOice: THE BOSS IS ON AAAAA ROOOLLLL." This. poor. unfortunate. soul." Ariel signs. Success. Evil smile. Magic to transform to human.
Just to add to it- Melissa did a wonderful rendition vocally, but when it came to the actual acting I never got the sense that she was in any way being subtle in her disgust. Pat’s Ursula leans away from Ariel when she says “Pathetic.” and “Flotsam, Jetsam, now I’ve got her boys!” Which hints at the nefariousness of the deal. Melissa kinda missed that mark entirely and it makes me sad because it’s so pivotal to the characterization of Ursula. Pat is still my favorite because of the way her character comes through with the signing and acting, but Melissa’s was strong too in it’s own way.
Well you can't really compare live shows to film and say the film ones are best because of course they have to be for something that is permanent. Who knows what it even took to get it right on the movies, something isn't possible for Broadway.
I think Melissa delivers over Queen Latiffah ONLY because she's in the studio. I doubt she could produce the same product on a live mic, one take like Latiffah js
Poor unfortunate souls is a sales pitch. The beginning is a light approach known as a soft close. As the song progresses ursula switches to a hard close. She gets more aggressive and she seals the deal.
I think Queen Latifah did everything just right. How do you under plays such a character? You have to be over the top. And she’s on stage, she’s not doing a movie.
Agreed, I feel like she focused more on a movie than a character. Queen Latifah is an actual singer as well. I feel like she should've focused more on the fact that its a character, shes not doing a whole movie where they get to pre-record the song. She's singing live as well which is a difficult thing to do.
Queen Latifah I think sang it best but Melissa did the best character voice for it. I think the biggest difference is they tried to hold Latifah to the Pat Carroll version whereas they gave Melissa room to play, explore and find what worked best for her
Ursula's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursula is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing
@@y0y010 Ursula's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursula is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing.
I think this "darker" memory we have of Ursula from our childhoods you mentioned is because of the very ominous "she may be the key to Tritan´s undoing" as the background goes pitch black and her tentacles moving hahahaha ...I believe that is in her first scene...that gave me chills as a child hehe
I like the original (animated) version of Ursula the most. She was actually scary. Melissa did a great job in the live action, but nothing creepy about her version. Also, Queen Latifah is a rapper first, so considering that and the fact that she did it live (not recorded), she did fine. However, I agree that the key was too low !
You pointed out some things about McCarthy's performance that I had not considered, and I will have to dwell on those for a bit. As a 34-year fan of _TLM_ (I was 7 when I saw it in the theater!), thank you. That said, there's one big issue I have with 2023's version, and it comes from more of a directing/conducting side _rather than_ a performance or acting side... Even though the melody is the same, and the lyrics are _almost_ identical (which were changed to fill-in two _big_ plot holes from the original movie!), the problem I have is that 2023's version of "Poor Unfortunate Souls" is *aimed at the wrong audience* , and I noticed that as I was watching the movie in the theater three weeks ago. PUS intended for strictly one person- _Ariel._ (Yeah, Flotsam and Jetsam are there too, but they've probably heard this literal song-and-dance before, so they don't really count.) She's in an unfamiliar and- to her perspective- enclosed, even claustrophobic lair, and PUS starts out quiet and even empathetic. _I admit that in the past I've been a nasty._ _They weren't kidding when they called me, well, a "witch"._ _But you'll find that nowadays, I've mended all my ways,_ _repented, seen the light, and made a switch._ _True? Yes._ And as PUS builds to its crescendo- as the contract is signed and the spell is being cast- it becomes more and more intense, with Ursula feeding off of her perceived success in convincing Ariel to take her offer. That's acceptable. However, almost from the first lyrics of 2023's version, I can literally _hear_ McCarthy deviating _not_ in her vocal range (despite the slight change to the pitch of the song), but rather _whom_ she is addressing. I can picture McCarthy, in costume as Ursula, swaying and prancing across a *live theater stage* _rather than_ a *motion picture screen* . When she first sings- *_Poor, unfortunate souls_* _in pain, in need!_ _This one longing to be thinner,_ _that one wants to get the girl,_ _and do I help them? Yes, indeed._ McCarthy's not even looking at Ariel, no! Rather, she's looking out at _the house from the stage._ And that should _not_ be the case, not in the _slightest._ Now, if you listen to both Sherrie Rene-Scott and Queen Latifah, yeah, they're _supposed_ to be doing that, because _they are_ on a live stage with a live audience, so the expectation- literally the nature of live theater- is they _need_ to be visually dramatic, and the orchestra and vocals should reflect that. I do not hold this against McCarthy (who I don't like at all, but was VERY impressed how she disappeared into the role of Ursula, wow!), but rather the decisions made by director Rob Marshall, and perhaps _some_ of that as well laid at the feet of legendary composer Alan Menkin.
@@JenniferPoole.33272Jeez why did you have to go there? 🙄 Not EVERYTHING is about race if someone doesn't like something. And clearly you don't watch this channel if you think her opinion is about race. I don't like QL's version either and I'm a blk woman.
@@shan0997 i think it could be a fair assumption. she went significantly harder on latifa than any of the others. and theres things that dont sound that great in melissas version.
IMO, you're being too harsh on Latifah. Also, remember her Little Mermaid was a special one night only thing. A bunch of stars singing the songs in between the actual movie airing. They hired her for her star power, diva presence and yes, her voice.
Queen Latifah crushed it. Sure the start had a few moments but to sing that well live, especially when watching the entire performance and not just the first like 40 seconds. She stayed in character the whole time, even after burning her hand on the cauldron. Genuinely one of my favourite actresses, ever since Chicago but especially after Joyful Noise (which is a great jukebox musical imo and would love to see on the channel but it is about religion and may cause some unnecessary comments) and her performance in the live Hairspray musical!
I will forever love Pat Carrols "kinder" voice since it makes it so much more manipulative which nails the scene. Then her voice becoming more intense and manic once she has Ariel on the hook is amazing. It could be nostalgia talking as I grew up with the animated version but I love it much more than any other Ursula.
I'm quite torn between Melissa's version and the original. Melissa unexpectedly aced her version but there's still something about the original that stands out even though sounds really subtle and laid back compared to how I remember it. I'll probably go with Melissa's as my favorite for now
In my opinion, even though I liked Melissa’s version, no one can surpass the original. Maybe a react to the different voices Ursula got in different languages would be interesting, Audrey? I truly think you would enjoy the Brazilian one.
@@jboao In my opinion she is and that’s it. The same way I totally respect you guys who think other versions have surpassed hers, you should just respect my thoughts 😊👍🏼
@@Sophhmg You see? It’s interesting we all have different opinions about who did the best version. I actually find that nice. Having different points of view is always healthy.
Definitely the animated version is the best with Pat Carrol. I love the fact that Ursula tries to trick Ariel into thinking she is more innocent or good by sinking happy and softening her voice. Then in the end it’s too late for Ariel is too deep and committed. That’s actually a really good psychological technique that was perfected using singing 🤩!!! That’s why it will always be the best. If someone was singing to me all dark and mysterious from the beginning I wouldn’t even look back as I’m running away 😂 or even let them finish their song 🤣
Ursula's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursula is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. So sounding menacing isn't the point
Except, Ursula isn't trying to come off as a villain. She's trying to sell that shes changed and is more of a fairy godmother type of person now. If anything while singing she's trying to make Ariel uncomfortable and unfocused from really thinking about the deal, forcing her to make a snap decision. She doesn't show her true maniacal side until the songs finale when it's too late. Pat Carrol herself has said she got a lot of inspiration from car salesmen for this song.
In the original animated movie. Ursula is pleased with herself being evil. She owns up to it... Also the fact she and her eels dance about showing how close she cares for them... in fact she was upset later in the movie when they die... I love this that even as an evil octopus she has love for something other than herself. So my favorite is the animated Ursula.
The original will always be my favorite. Honestly, I wish I understood why people loved Melissa's version... it's so airy for a powerhouse song. I was honestly surprised at Queen Latifah's harsh review because the lady can sing. And she's singing here as the character Ursula. And she nails it. It reminds me of when I saw the movie version of Les Miserables and someone commented that Hugh Jackman couldn't sing, but he's singing as. the. character. In other performances, he sounds totally different. Queen Latifah sounds completely different. Another example: Joaquin Pheonix being turned down initially for the role as Johnny Cash, but then got the part when he came back with a whole octave lower. We're also comparing a live version to a studio version. Let's appreciate the talent
I love the part from 11:37 to where you paused. There may be problems with the singing, but her acting... I love how excentic she plays Ursula here and that's how I imagine her to be and I thought there was be more of that in the original movie
You should watch the video of Howard ashman coaching Jodie Benson through part of your world. He was more for subtilty than for belting those notes as you would on a stage. I assume that patt carol would’ve received similar coaching. Ashman’s approach to the animated musical is fascinating
I believe there is a small video of him singing parts of the "poor unfortunate souls" because pat carol asked "how would you sing it" and then took parts of his performance and adlibs into the final production. If you search for it on youtube interview with pat carol you should find it it.
Everyone is building on Pat’s version, who must’ve gotten coaching from Howard Ashman, and she didn’t have the reference of other interpretations, so hers is the one. Melissa is good too.
I don’t think this is a fair comparison because 2 of them are studio recorded and 2 are live. Queen Latifah is the best. ❤️. Instead of us explaining why we like her so much why don’t you tell us why you don’t like her? Much love ❤️
@brooksbrotherdoodles9789 To be fair, "I know there are some huge Queen Latifah fans out there that absolutely love her, and I'd like to know why, because I don't" comes off less as her just critiquing this singular performance and more as her not understanding why a person would like QL in general.
@@baramanletsplay2003 I think she probably just thinks her voice isn't that strong and range isn't that great. Technically, it's not. But I hear you as I think she's done well and sounded good in other performances. It may be true that she didn't hit all the notes in Chicago either, like Audrey said, but I thought she gave a good performance in that. Better than here.
Sherie Rene Scott was unfairly appreciated here, by far the best vocalist and actress for this rol. Amazing she made such an end that’s quite hard to compare
i used to love Queen’s version, but after watching it back it just lacked SO much (and yes the key change was a poor, unfortunate choice), which is a shame, because i loved her as Mama Morton! Melissa is easily the best Ursula to date and i say that with complete confidence. i was blown away by her overall performance and i think it’s her best role so far.
You also have to remember that auto tune wasn’t a thing in 1989. I think Pat did the best. It’s better for the lore of the movie too. She is trying to trick Ariel. Mellisa McCarthy’s performance made me question if it actually was her or being dubbed. And she certainly used auto tune.
See I think I have a bit of a different perspective on this, I feel like many people as a kid remember Ursula just being super scary, but her being happy sounding was actually her whole tactic. She wants arial to trust her and not be scared, the only times she breaks that character is when she’s talking to her minions. Her true colors show in the scenes following but in this song she is still just being deceptive to arial, hints the happier tone. That’s why I actually believe the original does better than the live action because I feel like Melissa though her vocals were amazing didn’t understand the importance of the deception behind her voice
While I really like Melissa's performance I do think that the live action scene has the same issue with the Broadway version: it ramps up the crazy too fast. Ursula in the animated version is slow and sweet for a reason: she's trying to lure Ariel into making a deal. It's not because it's more child-friendly or disneyfied, it's because Ursula has to make Ariel trust her. I don't think the Broadway or live action version would accomplish this, with Ursula going full tilt bonkers, which any reasonable Ariel would swim away from right away.
Please watch Queen Latifah sing "I Know Where I've Been" and "Big Blonde and Beautiful" in Hairspray. You might change your mind about her once you've seen those. She did great in "You Can't Stop The Beat" too, of course. But I'm obsessed with the first two
Urala's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursala is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing..
I’m so glad Melissa did Pat justice with her interpretation as Ursula. I really hope they had a “in memory of” section for Pat. Samuel too, even if his passing wasn’t as recent as Pat’s.
I feel decepcioned with Melissa because her perfomance is not as good as Pat Carroll who gave a real characterization with that sarcástic and envolving way to talk and lead to get her business. Incredible. Sorry for Melissa, I don't liked her. 😊
I agree 100%. I approached this movie with the idea that it would be another shitty ass remake, but Melissa and Halle really shined and I was pleasantly surprised with them. I never saw Halle act so I was a little skeptical, but she did a phenomenal job imo of portraying the innocence of Ariel. And Melissa really outdid herself in “poor unfortunate souls.” Her pauses, the way she emphasizes certain words, her tone, just everything about her performance was phenomenal. Melissa did amazing ❤
Urala's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursala is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing
@priderisestudios1521 true, but the line is spoken/sung by the villain who were not supposed to trust anything that they say so I could see a case how keeping it would actually be appropriate.
Pat sang it best. It's not just about the song, it's about the scene. Remember that Ursula is the family outcast that NOBODY goes near. She needs to gain Ariel's trust. She lures Ariel in with a welcoming voice. As the song progresses and she gains Ariel's trust and relates to Ariel with being misunderstood, she slowly reveals her true colors and that's the side that starts to show until it's full blown true colors. The reviewer has to look at in in context of Ursula's history with the family. She lures Ariel in with a oldness. That's where Melissa missed the mark. Pat Carrol all the way on this song.
Really enjoyed Melissa (especially since I think we all went in really unsure) and she brought in her comedic chops, but it’ll always be the original for me. Also, Queen Latifah is a really good singer and that performance was live and one night. Get her in a studio and allow her to do take after take after take and I’d bet she would’ve fared better. For the Broadway and tv special we’re getting one recorded version that may or may not have been their best whereas for Pat and Melissa we know it was a combination of their best vocals. We can only compare what exists but I just think that’s an important note for anyone bearing Queen for the first time if and is this thinking what the hell? Lol
@@JenniferPoole.33272 I didn't say that. Melissa did. Personally, I agree with you that Pat would've been proud. It's a shame she never got to see it. 🥺
To me, each Ursula portrays different emotions and intentions throughout the song (some better than others): Melissa (Remake): Creepy Pat (Original): Manipulative Sheri (Broadway): Crazy Latifah (LM Live): Showy Personally, I love Sheri Rene Scott’s Ursula and song. I’m OBSESSED with her voice, and crazy, fun, evil ursula is extremely entertaining to watch!
Pat's version was already villainy. Though she was convincing Ariel, there was still this villainy aura even when she was welcoming her. Melissa's version was more of an aunt welcoming her niece. She started being the lazy aunt and eventually progresses to the aunt that is really angry because her niece can't make decisions for herself. Queen Latifah's was actually difficult because it was live.
Melissa hands down provided the best version. I didn’t know she could sing. When this part of the film came on my jaw hit the floor. She absolutely smashed it
Animated Ursula being happy is what also sells her as a villain. It's like she's proud of the stuff she did, no regrets, no guilts. Hell, she'll probably even have trophies of it if there were. It's a charm. It also adds to a hidden menacing part of her.
1- Pat Carroll, she will always be the Ursula for me, we can have INCREDIBLE versions of this song (as we have) and it could be nostalgia for me but she will always be the MVP 2- Melissa McCarthy, I love how character driven everything was, it never felt like she was doing it to show off every line was so filled with character it was stunning also loved how different this felt for Melissa yet still had her small comedic moments 3- Sherrie Renee Scott, I’m a sucker for a Broadway version, the song was adapted beautifully for the stage and it really turned into a big Broadway number I also love her version of Ursula it almost feels sarcastic which is a plus and a minus as unlike Melissa who had her (although fake) warm moments with Ariel and you can see why Ariel would eventually trust her enough to make the deal 4- Queen Latifah, okay I LOVE Queen Latifah but the performance we saw wasn’t my favourite, she had incredible moments that I enjoyed but overall it kind of felt like she was going through the moments and thinking about the next line and it doesn’t help that they kept the original key which was too low for her. Love the idea of her as Ursula but didn’t love what we saw
As kids, I think some people assume the OG version is dark and heavy because their voices still haven't dropped. That combined with the fact that some people when singing this are unassumingly trying to imitate it in some way and their voices are deeper than Pat Carroll's. With Queen Latifah if they put it in a key where she was comfortable and not where (or near where) people assumed it always was, it would have been fabulous.
When you mentioned the one actress with the hand gestures it made me thing of my daughter who does theatre. When she was in high school she talked about a girl in her class who was always making large hand gestures and she would laugh and say it was “Hands, the Musical.”
You cut off the best parts of the song (the entire second half) and the climax where Pat Carroll really extended her voice. Is that because we don't have the full scenes for the new one? You really need to do this again with the full song.
AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE BROADWAY VERSION IT COMES LAST THEN QUEEN LATIFAH BECAUSE I LOVE HER TAKE ON URSULA NEXT PAT CAROLL BECAUSE OG BUT MELLISSA JUST BRINGS THESE HIGH NOTES AND LOW NOTES THAT REALLY GIVE US AN AMZING NEW WAY OF URSULA MAKING ME WANT TO SEE A MOVIE OF HER BACKSTORY
YAY! So excited to see this videoooo My favorite is Sherie Rene Scott. I saw her live on broadway and it was ICONIC. She belts out the high note at the end and held it for sooo long in the theatre.
Auli'i Cravalho and Queen Latifah do not get enough appreciation for their performances in the anniversary special. It's weird the specials for TLM and BATB didn't get much promotion (most people didn't even understand what TLM special was going to be), and it was even weirder that Aladdin didn't get a 30th anniversary special.
Pat will always be my favorite but Melissa absolutely KILLED it! I knew she was going to be amazing as Ursula but to actually see her surpass every expectation is just fabulous 😍❤️
The sad thing about the Little Mermaid live event it just felt like every song was rushed and was never given any time to breathe or build. I have no idea why they'd choose that production and event to rush the singers and rush the songs. The entire production just felt off for that reason.
Melissa McCarthy definitely did it the best. She just added that little... *KICK* to it. Melissa McCarthy had that MaGiCaL singing talent we never knew she had. I agree with the original seeming a little bouncy and jazzy. Pat Carrol did it awesome, but Melissa McCarthy just carried the whole thing-
The lyric Queen Latifah sings is "To this." It's unfortunate you didnt react to the entire performance. Her version has many new lyrics not present in the original film or in the current live action.
I think it's unfair to compare live performances with the studio version, but Queen Latifah it was very good in the interpretation, maybe in a recording studio it would have been perfect
The new Ariel had such good casting but what I don't understand is the visuals in all the live movies. Why doesn't Disney try to dazzle us anymore? Where's the color? Where's the choreography? It's like they got Edgar Allen Poe directing the Disney movies ☹️
It is a little unfair to compare live vocals to studio ones especially when the live ones included motion. It would be fairer if the comparison was all studio versions and a separate one for live versions. Studio versions are meant to be perfect or very close to it.
Ok so I loved how Queen Latifah was actually acting as Ursula. She gave the sass and energy of the character. Love Melissa as well. Like you said: Why compare? They're just in a different key. Pat Carrol was going for a lower more sultry vibe in her voice with mock-sympathy for her "clients" and Queen Latifah also was trying to emulate Pat's energy in the song. The broadway girl took Ursula and essentially made her sound nutty. All in all I loved all renditions of them. My favorite is the Original, but Melissa really impressed as well bringing her own flavor to Ursula.
It's crazy hearing them back to back. I had thought Melissa's was spot on to the original but it has been years and oh my God, they're so different! What? How did i remember it so differently? I did not remember the original being that light. I like Melissa's the best because of where she places her emphasis and the character and attitude she brought to it.
I love tituss burgess version of the song😍😍😍... and with all do respect to every female version, I will never forgive Disney for not giving the opportunity to a male actor to play the role!🙄😤 I mean you can't go wrong with tituss burgess's vocals and sassyness🤭😅🥰...but to be fair i was pleasantly surprise by Melissa mccarthy🤗
Disrespectful of YT to make me scroll THIS far down to find some Tituss love. His version is by far my fave after Pat Carroll’s. And in the original key?!
About queen latifah, she was Ursula in Disney Parks where celebrities take a pic as a promotion for disney parks. It went big and basically she become publics fav since then..
It's really hard to choose between Melissa and Pat because both are different types of performances meant for different audiences. Melissa's overall had more emotion and feeling. It felt like it was meant for the stage. Pat's still had feeling and emotional but not to Melissa's level. Hers was meant for children to be able to sing along to it. When I want to listen to the song, I put on Melissa's version and when I want to sing along- I put on Pat's. Melissa's version is more dramatic and deliberate. I love both versions a lot.
remember little mermaid was a big comeback for disney, and for kids. it became a big hit, because adults loved it too, pat carroll was the originator and said they made her sing so low that she had trouble with her vocal chords. the original part they were playing on getting bea arthur!
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Queen Latifah was in Hairspray 2007 just wanted to point that out‼
Sherie kinda feels like a mobster. A lobster mobster. I still prefer Pat Carroll, she feels so evil and seductive. I feel like she’s putting on act to manipulate Ariel but you know she’s willing to kill her at a moment’s notice. Also the character was loosely based on drag, and Pat’s voice kinda sounds like a tired yet fabulous drag queen.
You need to be more objective when you compare the different iterations of the character. Judging by the way you talk about the actresses, It’s very obvious to me that you are a Melissa fan and completely dislike Queen Latifah.
It makes since that Ursula in the original is trying to be more upbeat and happy because she is trying to foul Arial into thinking she is a good person who wants to help so she doesn't want Arial to be scared away.
Could you do an analysis of the Italian version of poor unfortunate souls from the classic of animation?
Pat Carrol has talked about that Ursula is trying to play soft and sweet to convince Ariel she was trying to help her. She slowly grows more aggressive and manic as the song progresses until it’s too late.
Absolutely. There is no possible comparison without the second half of the song. Audrey needs to do this entire thing again with the full song.
Don't you dare disrespect Pat Carrol!!!!!!!
@@RedRoseSeptember22 they're not.
Exactly! It's called storytelling! And the part where she says pathetic is supposed to be whispered to flotsam and jetsam, not just uttered out loud like Melissa does. Fail.
Exactly she’s leading her into a false sense of security she should’ve just kept the comparison between Pat Carrol, Melissa, and Queen Latifah I think she’s a little bit too biased to Melissa you gotta remake the video and compare it fully
i actually like the original being lighter because ursula is trying to sell ariel this idea that she's this kind lady who help people, she's trying to get ariel to trust her; meanwhile in the new one the way melissa is singing is showing more the "true nature" of the character, which in the story doesn't make much sense because ariel wouldn't trust her even if she's desperate.
both are great, but i think the original works better with the context
I think it works because in the Part of Your World reprise, Ariel basically conveyed that she is willing to do anything to be a part of the above world. So the first opportunity she had, even though she was a bit reluctant, she took it. The line Ursula said about her dad really pushed her over that edge to make the deal even though she didn't trust her.
Totally agreed
Vocally Melissa was better IMO, but the original is the best at singing as the character. The original sang that song the way Ursula should sing the song: lighter, seemingly sweet and sincere, but really a manipulative liar. Vocal quality, Melissa is best. However, the original singer actress sings in character the best.
But Ariel is a bit naive
I think also the reason og Ursula sounds happy or almost gleeful while she's singing is not just because she's pretending to be sweet and sincere, but because she's proud of what she does. Proud of her abilities and history of Faustian bargains. And now she also 2:15 gets to start exacting her revenge against Triton at long last.
If you watch the original animated movie, Ursula worked and waited a loooong time for this opportunity, so she's doing her best to appear like a friendly, misunderstood person in order to get Ariel in her clutches. Frankly, anyone with half a brain would run far far away from Melissa's Ursula - and while Ariel has been portrayed as young and inexperienced, she's not stupid.
Tbf Ariel did try to leave but was literally drug back by the eels at one point
What I got from the new version, was that Ariel was very aware of how dangerous Ursula is, but at this point she was tired of her father and his disapprovals, and Ursula was the only one that was giving her a "solution" to her problems, so she took the only opportunity that she had. We know that she didn't trust Ursula, she tries to leave a one point. This Ariel is a lot more proactive than her animated counterpart, so I guess for this version it makes sense why she stayed (and also Ursula's pets lowkey drag her there)
Pat will forever be the best. I love how she says certain lines, especially “across the coals.” She’s unmatched
yesss I love the way she expresses things throughout the entire song in such different ways. She has such an interesting voice and it brings so much to the character/song
Right? her voice matches what Ursula is trying to do. Pat made it a slow burn. Where shes playing coy about being a sea witch and how she ' helps ' people. RIP to the best Ursula.
Agree
“BODY LANGUAGE, HA!” absolutely amazing!
girl she's literally off tempo, I hate the original version so much
People when judging the performances tend to forget the intention of the song. In this song Ursula tries to be sweat and convincing to Ariel and as the song goes by she loses more and more her patience, and Pat Carroll nails it on giving us that.
Pat and Melissa are the only 2 that did it like that tbh
Only pat did that. Melissa sounds like she's constipated on the toilet
Pat and Melissa did it. However, unlike the OG version, Melissa's is more towards "Oh, those poor things. Where would they go if I hadn't helped them? 😩" and being all dramatic. While Pat's is leaning more towards "Don't be scared, darling. I can help you. 🤗" with a sprinkle of welcoming.
@@ralphaustinfernandez9851 Melissa sounds more "menacing" at the beginning, even if i was desperate, if i was trying to make a deal with someone and they didnt sound nice in the beginning or even trying to prove it i would leave and not go through with it. Melissa sounds more bothered as well as if making deals (which she knows shell get benefits from because she makes them in her favor) was a hassle for her to do. Over itd make me disinterested to continue with a deal if the person im trying to make a deal with sounds bothered, annoyed, and "cruel/menacing"
Pat Carroll's Ursula is always going to be my favorite. Her slightly lighter vocal take on the song betrays her con-artist glee that Ariel is in her clutches to forward her own (Ursula's) agenda. Ursula has two faces in the course of this song: the sales-person/con-artist and the real Ursula, and she ducks in and out of them at various points. One has to remember that she is trying to be as unthreatening to Ariel as possible in order to hook her into the scheme. Animated Ursula's voice is very deep and husky in her dialog, but for her song, she is energized with the prospect of her finally getting what her heart desires. (Note: I am coming in with no background in vocal training.)
Perfect translation on my thoughts
Oh, Alan. The great Pat Carroll had the perfect analogy of this song. An ex Shakespearean Actress who sells used cars. PERFECTION in the description of Ursula and this song. Chef’s kiss 💋 .
To my ears, Melissa's version sounds much better than the original.
Alan, apparently you don’t need any formal training to read and interpret a scene from a musical, because you just did expertly.
This song isn’t supposed to be played straight. In the 90’s animated version this song is like “Trouble” from The Music Man. Ariel is the audience Ursula is playing to rather than us, and it’s all about putting on a show and (forgive the pun) reeling her in, so I think it’s a stronger choice to have the song show us what Ariel sees rather than Ursula’s true character. To be fair other interpretations could be equally valid with enough adjustments to support them, but personally, I Gotta go with Pat.
Thank you for understanding the song correctly unlike this "vocal coach"❤
Pat’s version is so iconic, it sounds so light and sweet near the start because that’s Ursula’s way of luring in Ariel, it gets darker and a bit more aggressive as the song goes on to show her desperation to close the deal so she can gain the advantage she needs.
I really love Melissa’s version though, I like the grit to her tone and the quirks she adds to her voice for it, I do like all four versions though so it’s hard to compare especially since 2 are live and 2 are studio recordings but Pat’s will always be my fave!
Pat Carroll's Ursula is character singing just as was Jodi Benson as Ariel. They were singing as their characters and not focused on any other way.
In the 1989 film Ursula sounds happy because she is putting on a face and trying to convince Ariel that she was getting a good deal and that she is not a bad person. She throws in more emphasis into her acting while she sings to try to get Ariel to empathize with her. As we get to the final moments of the song she starts sounding more devious with a touch of excitement because she knows she is really close to getting what she ultimately wants.
None of the songs in the 1989 animated film were meant to be sung by Broadway singers in the film. It is and always has been character singing in pretty much all of the Disney animated movies back then.
The songs were adapted for Broadway, but they lost a lot in translation of the characters when the singers just started to focus on technique and not the character they play.
Thank you!
Thank you! Nobody sees that for some reason.
Er..I had to say both Pat Carroll and Odi Benson are boardway actor or actress had boardway background.
Remember, during 1989, Howard Ashman had pursway disney must hire a boardway actor and actress to play the role because they can sing and act at the same time.
Both The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast follow this direction strictly.
@@AAA839 What I meant when I said none of the characters were meant to be Broadway singers was Howard Ashman wanted less focus on technique, more focus on emoting through song, and making the character feel natural and identifiable to anyone.
Howard knew Jodi could sing above how she sang in the animated film, but he was not looking for that. He was looking for personality and feeling in delivery of the song lyrics. There is video of him directing Jodi and whispering to her at some point to help her get into the mindset of the character he wrote the song for.
@@KYRSZ-gd1qt That true. Howard always say just told the story not to overly sing It. This is monologue. One of the problem with Live action is they kind of loss the balance with realistic or believability. Try to pleasing with Some group ignore the fact there had some intention to do that.
Also Lack with space giving viewer imagination for what happen. Try to fix something that is not suppose to fix.
When they said they are changing Howard Lyrics I can imagined How Howard would pissed and kept fighting to kept his lyrics.
This is annoy me so much. As I grow up with Howard movie and hear so many story including his latest documentary. Disney really done the dirty work here.
For example Some "modern fans" just disrespect the original approach both Jodi and Pat.and Kept saying new one is superior than any original. try to make the original is just for "old people" or accused them being Nostalgia. Not realize people had reason why they didn't like some changes in modern twist.
Queen Latifa was definitely the best thing about that semi-live event, which honestly says more about that production than it does about her. She's great, but not the best showcase of her talent. Similar issue with casting Shania Twain as Mrs. Potts in the Beauty and the Beast event.
My ranking is a tie between Melissa and the original.
To my ears, Melissa's version sounds much better than the original. 🤷♂
I hate Melissas version for only one reason they took out the best part of the song
@@deonhaasbroek8341 yeah like how do you take away bOdY LaNgUaGe HA!
Nah I think you're being too harsh on Queen Latifah, she was great, not great "inspite of"
@Deon Haasbroek the body language part omg my favorite part
To me Melissa is the only one who holds a candle to the original, but I still overall prefer the original because of how it smoothly transitions from being nice/welcoming to creepy and foreboding. Especially towards the end when she says "now sing", sounds a lot more menacing in that version
And "What I want from you is.... YOUR VOICE" Then back to the car salesman schtick for a minute "You'l have your looks, your pretty face....And don't underestimate..." And then later with fevered intensity and consumate vocal chops "im a very busy woman, and I havn'et got all day. It won't cost much! JUST YOUR VOICE!" "If you want to cross the bridge my sweet, you've got to pay the toll Take a gulp and take a breath (muttered: And go ahead and sign the scroll) Flotsam, Jetsam, now I've got her, boys. Deep Sotto VOice: THE BOSS IS ON AAAAA ROOOLLLL." This. poor. unfortunate. soul." Ariel signs. Success. Evil smile. Magic to transform to human.
Just to add to it- Melissa did a wonderful rendition vocally, but when it came to the actual acting I never got the sense that she was in any way being subtle in her disgust. Pat’s Ursula leans away from Ariel when she says “Pathetic.” and “Flotsam, Jetsam, now I’ve got her boys!” Which hints at the nefariousness of the deal. Melissa kinda missed that mark entirely and it makes me sad because it’s so pivotal to the characterization of Ursula.
Pat is still my favorite because of the way her character comes through with the signing and acting, but Melissa’s was strong too in it’s own way.
You need to get your ears checked, he version was too whiney and had no development.
@@jeri3794 im so sorry for having an opinion i I didnt mean it
Well you can't really compare live shows to film and say the film ones are best because of course they have to be for something that is permanent. Who knows what it even took to get it right on the movies, something isn't possible for Broadway.
I think Melissa delivers over Queen Latiffah ONLY because she's in the studio. I doubt she could produce the same product on a live mic, one take like Latiffah js
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Poor unfortunate souls is a sales pitch. The beginning is a light approach known as a soft close. As the song progresses ursula switches to a hard close. She gets more aggressive and she seals the deal.
I think Queen Latifah did everything just right. How do you under plays such a character? You have to be over the top. And she’s on stage, she’s not doing a movie.
💯 % I'm a trained singer, and I agree with some of the things she said, but QUEEN ATE THAT UP, I was in love.
I agree. And Queen latifah was the best
Agreed, I feel like she focused more on a movie than a character. Queen Latifah is an actual singer as well. I feel like she should've focused more on the fact that its a character, shes not doing a whole movie where they get to pre-record the song. She's singing live as well which is a difficult thing to do.
that explains the true THIS 😂
Queen Latifah I think sang it best but Melissa did the best character voice for it. I think the biggest difference is they tried to hold Latifah to the Pat Carroll version whereas they gave Melissa room to play, explore and find what worked best for her
It's absolutely clear that Melissa sang it the best.
@Y0Y0 you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.
Also Queen Latifah's was live and not in the best key for her. Melissa McCarthy's is a recording, and she could have had several takes.
Ursula's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursula is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing
@@y0y010 Ursula's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursula is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing.
I think this "darker" memory we have of Ursula from our childhoods you mentioned is because of the very ominous "she may be the key to Tritan´s undoing" as the background goes pitch black and her tentacles moving hahahaha ...I believe that is in her first scene...that gave me chills as a child hehe
"To THIS" is what Queen said during the "true yes"
I like the original (animated) version of Ursula the most. She was actually scary. Melissa did a great job in the live action, but nothing creepy about her version. Also, Queen Latifah is a rapper first, so considering that and the fact that she did it live (not recorded), she did fine. However, I agree that the key was too low !
You pointed out some things about McCarthy's performance that I had not considered, and I will have to dwell on those for a bit. As a 34-year fan of _TLM_ (I was 7 when I saw it in the theater!), thank you.
That said, there's one big issue I have with 2023's version, and it comes from more of a directing/conducting side _rather than_ a performance or acting side...
Even though the melody is the same, and the lyrics are _almost_ identical (which were changed to fill-in two _big_ plot holes from the original movie!), the problem I have is that 2023's version of "Poor Unfortunate Souls" is *aimed at the wrong audience* , and I noticed that as I was watching the movie in the theater three weeks ago.
PUS intended for strictly one person- _Ariel._ (Yeah, Flotsam and Jetsam are there too, but they've probably heard this literal song-and-dance before, so they don't really count.) She's in an unfamiliar and- to her perspective- enclosed, even claustrophobic lair, and PUS starts out quiet and even empathetic.
_I admit that in the past I've been a nasty._
_They weren't kidding when they called me, well, a "witch"._
_But you'll find that nowadays, I've mended all my ways,_
_repented, seen the light, and made a switch._
_True? Yes._
And as PUS builds to its crescendo- as the contract is signed and the spell is being cast- it becomes more and more intense, with Ursula feeding off of her perceived success in convincing Ariel to take her offer. That's acceptable.
However, almost from the first lyrics of 2023's version, I can literally _hear_ McCarthy deviating _not_ in her vocal range (despite the slight change to the pitch of the song), but rather _whom_ she is addressing. I can picture McCarthy, in costume as Ursula, swaying and prancing across a *live theater stage* _rather than_ a *motion picture screen* . When she first sings-
*_Poor, unfortunate souls_*
_in pain, in need!_
_This one longing to be thinner,_
_that one wants to get the girl,_
_and do I help them? Yes, indeed._
McCarthy's not even looking at Ariel, no! Rather, she's looking out at _the house from the stage._ And that should _not_ be the case, not in the _slightest._
Now, if you listen to both Sherrie Rene-Scott and Queen Latifah, yeah, they're _supposed_ to be doing that, because _they are_ on a live stage with a live audience, so the expectation- literally the nature of live theater- is they _need_ to be visually dramatic, and the orchestra and vocals should reflect that.
I do not hold this against McCarthy (who I don't like at all, but was VERY impressed how she disappeared into the role of Ursula, wow!), but rather the decisions made by director Rob Marshall, and perhaps _some_ of that as well laid at the feet of legendary composer Alan Menkin.
The disrespect on Queen Latifah is wild. But hey to each their own. 😂
No cuz I was like what?… I respect her opinion but I mean it’s Queen Latifah 😭
Yeah I can't believe that she said why did they cast her?
Hope she’s not racist for dissing on Queen Latifah…
@@JenniferPoole.33272Jeez why did you have to go there? 🙄 Not EVERYTHING is about race if someone doesn't like something. And clearly you don't watch this channel if you think her opinion is about race. I don't like QL's version either and I'm a blk woman.
@@shan0997 i think it could be a fair assumption. she went significantly harder on latifa than any of the others. and theres things that dont sound that great in melissas version.
My favorite Queen Latifa moment is in Hairspray on ‘I know where I’ve been’ absolutely brings me to tears everytime!
Yes that is her best movie song to me.
IMO, you're being too harsh on Latifah. Also, remember her Little Mermaid was a special one night only thing. A bunch of stars singing the songs in between the actual movie airing. They hired her for her star power, diva presence and yes, her voice.
Leave her alone, she is very fair and honest!
@@disneytoysr4fun975 no she’s not…. She’s hatin
@@ShayMichellevlogs No it's true. She doesn't sound that great and she's trying to hard. She's not a good fit for the role
@I Am Shay Michelle definitely hating. She can keep hating though. Melissa sucked to me.
In all fairness latifah had lots and lots of rehearsal time…
Queen Latifah crushed it. Sure the start had a few moments but to sing that well live, especially when watching the entire performance and not just the first like 40 seconds. She stayed in character the whole time, even after burning her hand on the cauldron.
Genuinely one of my favourite actresses, ever since Chicago but especially after Joyful Noise (which is a great jukebox musical imo and would love to see on the channel but it is about religion and may cause some unnecessary comments) and her performance in the live Hairspray musical!
I will forever love Pat Carrols "kinder" voice since it makes it so much more manipulative which nails the scene. Then her voice becoming more intense and manic once she has Ariel on the hook is amazing. It could be nostalgia talking as I grew up with the animated version but I love it much more than any other Ursula.
I'm quite torn between Melissa's version and the original. Melissa unexpectedly aced her version but there's still something about the original that stands out even though sounds really subtle and laid back compared to how I remember it. I'll probably go with Melissa's as my favorite for now
In my opinion, even though I liked Melissa’s version, no one can surpass the original. Maybe a react to the different voices Ursula got in different languages would be interesting, Audrey? I truly think you would enjoy the Brazilian one.
Pat is great, but she’s not the be all end all. Take off your biased, nostalgia glasses.
@@jboao In my opinion she is and that’s it. The same way I totally respect you guys who think other versions have surpassed hers, you should just respect my thoughts 😊👍🏼
@@jboao it’s not biased nostalgic opinions it’s just that Melissa lacks the proper sass, queen Latifah had it!!
SO TRUE! Im Brazilian, I guarantee you Brazilian Ursula is AMAZING! You will not regret.
@@Sophhmg You see? It’s interesting we all have different opinions about who did the best version. I actually find that nice. Having different points of view is always healthy.
Definitely the animated version is the best with Pat Carrol. I love the fact that Ursula tries to trick Ariel into thinking she is more innocent or good by sinking happy and softening her voice. Then in the end it’s too late for Ariel is too deep and committed. That’s actually a really good psychological technique that was perfected using singing 🤩!!! That’s why it will always be the best. If someone was singing to me all dark and mysterious from the beginning I wouldn’t even look back as I’m running away 😂 or even let them finish their song 🤣
For me, Melissa McCarthy did the best, she made the song a lot darker and villainy and that’s what I want Poor Unfortunate Souls to sound like.
Yeah. No.
No
Ursula's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursula is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. So sounding menacing isn't the point
@@Theoneandonlydramaqueen. agreed
Except, Ursula isn't trying to come off as a villain. She's trying to sell that shes changed and is more of a fairy godmother type of person now. If anything while singing she's trying to make Ariel uncomfortable and unfocused from really thinking about the deal, forcing her to make a snap decision. She doesn't show her true maniacal side until the songs finale when it's too late. Pat Carrol herself has said she got a lot of inspiration from car salesmen for this song.
In the original animated movie. Ursula is pleased with herself being evil. She owns up to it...
Also the fact she and her eels dance about showing how close she cares for them... in fact she was upset later in the movie when they die... I love this that even as an evil octopus she has love for something other than herself.
So my favorite is the animated Ursula.
Melissa killed it.
Yes, indeed
And Awkwafina killed my hearing…..
That she did
This is laughable.
Yes, she killed it, as in it needs cpr. She has no singing chops
Gurl you tripping queen Latifah did great.
The original will always be my favorite. Honestly, I wish I understood why people loved Melissa's version... it's so airy for a powerhouse song. I was honestly surprised at Queen Latifah's harsh review because the lady can sing. And she's singing here as the character Ursula. And she nails it. It reminds me of when I saw the movie version of Les Miserables and someone commented that Hugh Jackman couldn't sing, but he's singing as. the. character. In other performances, he sounds totally different. Queen Latifah sounds completely different. Another example: Joaquin Pheonix being turned down initially for the role as Johnny Cash, but then got the part when he came back with a whole octave lower. We're also comparing a live version to a studio version. Let's appreciate the talent
I love the part from 11:37 to where you paused. There may be problems with the singing, but her acting... I love how excentic she plays Ursula here and that's how I imagine her to be and I thought there was be more of that in the original movie
You should watch the video of Howard ashman coaching Jodie Benson through part of your world. He was more for subtilty than for belting those notes as you would on a stage. I assume that patt carol would’ve received similar coaching. Ashman’s approach to the animated musical is fascinating
I believe there is a small video of him singing parts of the "poor unfortunate souls" because pat carol asked "how would you sing it" and then took parts of his performance and adlibs into the final production. If you search for it on youtube interview with pat carol you should find it it.
Everyone is building on Pat’s version, who must’ve gotten coaching from Howard Ashman, and she didn’t have the reference of other interpretations, so hers is the one. Melissa is good too.
100% agreed
I don’t think this is a fair comparison because 2 of them are studio recorded and 2 are live. Queen Latifah is the best. ❤️. Instead of us explaining why we like her so much why don’t you tell us why you don’t like her? Much love ❤️
She did. She couldn't hit the notes, was straining, the voice didn't song great, and she had to continuously switch keys.
@brooksbrotherdoodles9789 To be fair, "I know there are some huge Queen Latifah fans out there that absolutely love her, and I'd like to know why, because I don't" comes off less as her just critiquing this singular performance and more as her not understanding why a person would like QL in general.
@@baramanletsplay2003 I think she probably just thinks her voice isn't that strong and range isn't that great. Technically, it's not. But I hear you as I think she's done well and sounded good in other performances. It may be true that she didn't hit all the notes in Chicago either, like Audrey said, but I thought she gave a good performance in that. Better than here.
@@UltimoDogLover She didn't switch keys, mate. She switched timbres.
Saw the movie last night. Melissa was a standout. That woman can do anything! From Suki in GG to this.
Omg I love Suki so much
YES! Melissa really outdid herself, her performance was phenomenal
Sherie Rene Scott was unfairly appreciated here, by far the best vocalist and actress for this rol. Amazing she made such an end that’s quite hard to compare
i used to love Queen’s version, but after watching it back it just lacked SO much (and yes the key change was a poor, unfortunate choice), which is a shame, because i loved her as Mama Morton! Melissa is easily the best Ursula to date and i say that with complete confidence. i was blown away by her overall performance and i think it’s her best role so far.
You also have to remember that auto tune wasn’t a thing in 1989. I think Pat did the best. It’s better for the lore of the movie too. She is trying to trick Ariel. Mellisa McCarthy’s performance made me question if it actually was her or being dubbed. And she certainly used auto tune.
Melissa is amazing, I didn’t see it coming! Her voice is so jazzy, just wow!
I’m loving this version, all the soundtrack ❤❤❤
See I think I have a bit of a different perspective on this, I feel like many people as a kid remember Ursula just being super scary, but her being happy sounding was actually her whole tactic. She wants arial to trust her and not be scared, the only times she breaks that character is when she’s talking to her minions. Her true colors show in the scenes following but in this song she is still just being deceptive to arial, hints the happier tone. That’s why I actually believe the original does better than the live action because I feel like Melissa though her vocals were amazing didn’t understand the importance of the deception behind her voice
While I really like Melissa's performance I do think that the live action scene has the same issue with the Broadway version: it ramps up the crazy too fast. Ursula in the animated version is slow and sweet for a reason: she's trying to lure Ariel into making a deal. It's not because it's more child-friendly or disneyfied, it's because Ursula has to make Ariel trust her. I don't think the Broadway or live action version would accomplish this, with Ursula going full tilt bonkers, which any reasonable Ariel would swim away from right away.
I always remember the original Ursula as dark and scary
Please watch Queen Latifah sing "I Know Where I've Been" and "Big Blonde and Beautiful" in Hairspray. You might change your mind about her once you've seen those. She did great in "You Can't Stop The Beat" too, of course. But I'm obsessed with the first two
Melissa's is sooooo good. The little nuances is what make it stand out for me.
She was not it for Ursula.
Urala's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursala is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing..
melissa really made that role hers! she blew my mind
i never remembered the song to be dark. it was ursula trying to fool her in to believing she is there to help
I’m so glad Melissa did Pat justice with her interpretation as Ursula. I really hope they had a “in memory of” section for Pat. Samuel too, even if his passing wasn’t as recent as Pat’s.
I feel decepcioned with Melissa because her perfomance is not as good as Pat Carroll who gave a real characterization with that sarcástic and envolving way to talk and lead to get her business. Incredible. Sorry for Melissa, I don't liked her. 😊
Melissa is a pleasant surprise, obviously a great choice, just as Halle ❤ their songs are now my top ones (actually, better than the originals)
I agree 100%. I approached this movie with the idea that it would be another shitty ass remake, but Melissa and Halle really shined and I was pleasantly surprised with them. I never saw Halle act so I was a little skeptical, but she did a phenomenal job imo of portraying the innocence of Ariel. And Melissa really outdid herself in “poor unfortunate souls.” Her pauses, the way she emphasizes certain words, her tone, just everything about her performance was phenomenal. Melissa did amazing ❤
Urala's playing a part trying to con Ariel into believing her. Yes we, as the viewer, know Ursala is the villain but Ariel does not and believes Ursula wants to help her. She's meant to sound sweeter not menacing
Melissa's version has quickly become my favorite 🔥❤. Still wish they didn't cut the "body language" part.
Same. Lol! I was waiting on that part but I guess I understand why they left it out.
@priderisestudios1521 true, but the line is spoken/sung by the villain who were not supposed to trust anything that they say so I could see a case how keeping it would actually be appropriate.
Which is why the original is the the best. I love both though.
I think Queen Latifah’s was the best one… I’ve rewatched that one so many times.
It sucks
Audrey went from hating Mellissa to Melissa being her favourite Ursula
Pat sang it best. It's not just about the song, it's about the scene. Remember that Ursula is the family outcast that NOBODY goes near. She needs to gain Ariel's trust. She lures Ariel in with a welcoming voice. As the song progresses and she gains Ariel's trust and relates to Ariel with being misunderstood, she slowly reveals her true colors and that's the side that starts to show until it's full blown true colors. The reviewer has to look at in in context of Ursula's history with the family. She lures Ariel in with a oldness. That's where Melissa missed the mark. Pat Carrol all the way on this song.
Really enjoyed Melissa (especially since I think we all went in really unsure) and she brought in her comedic chops, but it’ll always be the original for me. Also, Queen Latifah is a really good singer and that performance was live and one night. Get her in a studio and allow her to do take after take after take and I’d bet she would’ve fared better. For the Broadway and tv special we’re getting one recorded version that may or may not have been their best whereas for Pat and Melissa we know it was a combination of their best vocals. We can only compare what exists but I just think that’s an important note for anyone bearing Queen for the first time if and is this thinking what the hell? Lol
"Nobody touches Pat Carroll. She is perfection." - Melissa McCartney
That is true. Pat Carroll is the best. Btw I’m sure Pat would be proud of Melissa if she was still here with us.
@@JenniferPoole.33272 I didn't say that. Melissa did. Personally, I agree with you that Pat would've been proud. It's a shame she never got to see it. 🥺
To me, each Ursula portrays different emotions and intentions throughout the song (some better than others):
Melissa (Remake): Creepy
Pat (Original): Manipulative
Sheri (Broadway): Crazy
Latifah (LM Live): Showy
Personally, I love Sheri Rene Scott’s Ursula and song. I’m OBSESSED with her voice, and crazy, fun, evil ursula is extremely entertaining to watch!
Pat's version was already villainy. Though she was convincing Ariel, there was still this villainy aura even when she was welcoming her.
Melissa's version was more of an aunt welcoming her niece. She started being the lazy aunt and eventually progresses to the aunt that is really angry because her niece can't make decisions for herself.
Queen Latifah's was actually difficult because it was live.
Melissa hands down provided the best version. I didn’t know she could sing. When this part of the film came on my jaw hit the floor. She absolutely smashed it
Animated Ursula being happy is what also sells her as a villain. It's like she's proud of the stuff she did, no regrets, no guilts. Hell, she'll probably even have trophies of it if there were. It's a charm.
It also adds to a hidden menacing part of her.
She does have trophies - all the cringing souls!!
@@LondonLite02 oh yeah. I was expecting to see them in the live action, but apparently Disney probably thought it's too disturbing
1- Pat Carroll, she will always be the Ursula for me, we can have INCREDIBLE versions of this song (as we have) and it could be nostalgia for me but she will always be the MVP
2- Melissa McCarthy, I love how character driven everything was, it never felt like she was doing it to show off every line was so filled with character it was stunning also loved how different this felt for Melissa yet still had her small comedic moments
3- Sherrie Renee Scott, I’m a sucker for a Broadway version, the song was adapted beautifully for the stage and it really turned into a big Broadway number I also love her version of Ursula it almost feels sarcastic which is a plus and a minus as unlike Melissa who had her (although fake) warm moments with Ariel and you can see why Ariel would eventually trust her enough to make the deal
4- Queen Latifah, okay I LOVE Queen Latifah but the performance we saw wasn’t my favourite, she had incredible moments that I enjoyed but overall it kind of felt like she was going through the moments and thinking about the next line and it doesn’t help that they kept the original key which was too low for her. Love the idea of her as Ursula but didn’t love what we saw
Ursula felt creepy because she was literally ENJOYING Ariel being there to make a deal. She had to sound friendly to Ariel, not scary.
Melissa blew everyone's mind😂🎉❤
Because they expected her to be trash and when she wasn't it was a pleasant & welcomed surprise.
I think the reason Melissa did so well is she really leaned into pats rendition, and then built upon it. Really well done
As kids, I think some people assume the OG version is dark and heavy because their voices still haven't dropped. That combined with the fact that some people when singing this are unassumingly trying to imitate it in some way and their voices are deeper than Pat Carroll's. With Queen Latifah if they put it in a key where she was comfortable and not where (or near where) people assumed it always was, it would have been fabulous.
When you mentioned the one actress with the hand gestures it made me thing of my daughter who does theatre. When she was in high school she talked about a girl in her class who was always making large hand gestures and she would laugh and say it was “Hands, the Musical.”
You cut off the best parts of the song (the entire second half) and the climax where Pat Carroll really extended her voice. Is that because we don't have the full scenes for the new one? You really need to do this again with the full song.
AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE BROADWAY VERSION IT COMES LAST THEN QUEEN LATIFAH BECAUSE I LOVE HER TAKE ON URSULA NEXT PAT CAROLL BECAUSE OG BUT MELLISSA JUST BRINGS THESE HIGH NOTES AND LOW NOTES THAT REALLY GIVE US AN AMZING NEW WAY OF URSULA MAKING ME WANT TO SEE A MOVIE OF HER BACKSTORY
I like Melissa's take on it, but I have to give it to the original. I think the duality of character she shows as you continue the song is so strong!
YAY! So excited to see this videoooo
My favorite is Sherie Rene Scott. I saw her live on broadway and it was ICONIC.
She belts out the high note at the end and held it for sooo long in the theatre.
I’m my opinion Melissa’s version is the best 😊
still Melissa’s the best for me 😊🫧
Auli'i Cravalho and Queen Latifah do not get enough appreciation for their performances in the anniversary special. It's weird the specials for TLM and BATB didn't get much promotion (most people didn't even understand what TLM special was going to be), and it was even weirder that Aladdin didn't get a 30th anniversary special.
Pat will always be my favorite but Melissa absolutely KILLED it! I knew she was going to be amazing as Ursula but to actually see her surpass every expectation is just fabulous 😍❤️
If Pat was still here with us and she was 96, she would be proud of Melissa. I’m sure. ^^
Melissa is my boo!!!! I knew she could do it! I never underestimate comedians when it comes to dramatic or musical roles. They have IT!
Melissa brings character and emotion to her singing and body language
The sad thing about the Little Mermaid live event it just felt like every song was rushed and was never given any time to breathe or build. I have no idea why they'd choose that production and event to rush the singers and rush the songs. The entire production just felt off for that reason.
it's so funny and wonderful to see you gushing over melissa, given how doubtful you were on her casting :)
Pat Carroll forever - when she sings "the boss is on a roll," there is simply nothing better
Loved Pat and Queen Latifah's version
Melissa McCarthy definitely did it the best. She just added that little... *KICK* to it. Melissa McCarthy had that MaGiCaL singing talent we never knew she had. I agree with the original seeming a little bouncy and jazzy. Pat Carrol did it awesome, but Melissa McCarthy just carried the whole thing-
I absolutely love love love Melissa’s version … I can’t imagine hearing it any other way 😆
The lyric Queen Latifah sings is "To this." It's unfortunate you didnt react to the entire performance. Her version has many new lyrics not present in the original film or in the current live action.
I think it's unfair to compare live performances with the studio version, but Queen Latifah it was very good in the interpretation, maybe in a recording studio it would have been perfect
The new Ariel had such good casting but what I don't understand is the visuals in all the live movies. Why doesn't Disney try to dazzle us anymore? Where's the color? Where's the choreography? It's like they got Edgar Allen Poe directing the Disney movies ☹️
You don’t have to disrespect Queen Latifah even if Melissa did the best out of everyone
Especially given Melissa was using the sing-song technique to make up for her lack of vocal ability.
It is a little unfair to compare live vocals to studio ones especially when the live ones included motion. It would be fairer if the comparison was all studio versions and a separate one for live versions. Studio versions are meant to be perfect or very close to it.
I went and saw it last night I love Melissa's voice
Ok so I loved how Queen Latifah was actually acting as Ursula. She gave the sass and energy of the character. Love Melissa as well. Like you said: Why compare? They're just in a different key. Pat Carrol was going for a lower more sultry vibe in her voice with mock-sympathy for her "clients" and Queen Latifah also was trying to emulate Pat's energy in the song. The broadway girl took Ursula and essentially made her sound nutty. All in all I loved all renditions of them. My favorite is the Original, but Melissa really impressed as well bringing her own flavor to Ursula.
It's crazy hearing them back to back. I had thought Melissa's was spot on to the original but it has been years and oh my God, they're so different! What? How did i remember it so differently? I did not remember the original being that light. I like Melissa's the best because of where she places her emphasis and the character and attitude she brought to it.
You need to watch Queen Latifah in Hairspray
I love tituss burgess version of the song😍😍😍... and with all do respect to every female version, I will never forgive Disney for not giving the opportunity to a male actor to play the role!🙄😤 I mean you can't go wrong with tituss burgess's vocals and sassyness🤭😅🥰...but to be fair i was pleasantly surprise by Melissa mccarthy🤗
Disrespectful of YT to make me scroll THIS far down to find some Tituss love. His version is by far my fave after Pat Carroll’s. And in the original key?!
Melissa’s version is my favorite, but of course Pat’s version is iconic. All four were good though.
About queen latifah, she was Ursula in Disney Parks where celebrities take a pic as a promotion for disney parks. It went big and basically she become publics fav since then..
i love queen but... even because of that i know that she doesn t have a low voice so i still prefer melissa s cover of poor unfortunate soul...
It's really hard to choose between Melissa and Pat because both are different types of performances meant for different audiences. Melissa's overall had more emotion and feeling. It felt like it was meant for the stage. Pat's still had feeling and emotional but not to Melissa's level. Hers was meant for children to be able to sing along to it. When I want to listen to the song, I put on Melissa's version and when I want to sing along- I put on Pat's. Melissa's version is more dramatic and deliberate. I love both versions a lot.
I love you're energy so much, idk if you smoked a j or you're high on your live for music, but you're so fun and engaged with your commentary.
Melissas voice for poor unfortunate souls was absolutely brilliant!
remember little mermaid was a big comeback for disney, and for kids. it became a big hit, because adults loved it too, pat carroll was the originator and said they made her sing so low that she had trouble with her vocal chords. the original part they were playing on getting bea arthur!
Melissa McCarthy is a queen 👑❤
I love the original because of how it starts at sweet and light and then the decent into darkness and crazy town. Melissa starts it a little to dark.