great videos batjac. love them old smith revolvers. i wish they were easier to find in Canada. i also wish we were allowed snubs. hang on to your gun rights!! keep em coming!! :)
Nice collection of your table-top center pieces. You're absolutely right about the prices going up on Colts, I was amazed to see what my Diamondback may be worth.
Like the RIA a lot - I've thought about collecting RIA handguns just for price point and usability.I bought a Model 10 in 1982 for $185. In today's money that would be $456. I'd say that new Smith revolvers are currently overpriced, and used two inch 10's and 64's are going almost as much as what you can get a new Model 10 or Model 64 for.
Got my revolver fix this morning. Definitely love the older guns. I'll gladly pay the $5-600 price tag on Smiths if it gets me a pinned barrel and no lock lol.
BATJAC J.W when you do another video will mention my name in it I will appreciate it very very much friend I have been watching your videos for 2 years now and I have learned a lot of new stuff
enjoyed this video, as I have all your videos...I've been thinking for a while that there seems to be a movement back to revolvers and less reckless abandon to acquire a semi auto at any cost. the market is finding it's balance? the days of less expensive/good deals of wheel guns may be over.
I just discovered your channel. I have a few older Smiths and just got an older Redhawk a month ago. The Redhawk is great fun ... get some Pachmayr grips though. I have S&W 586 no dash, 66-1 and a couple others. Beautiful guns and very nice shooters.
A gaggle of revolvers there! 8D Performance Center S&W would be nice addition to anybody's firearm collection. Hope we get a National Carry Reciprocity Act passed and signed by Trump real soon!
Love those pinned & recessed S & Ws. I have three Model 29-2s. I have several others, but oddly I don't have a model 10, yet. I have a 4 inch blue Python made in 1975, so I've got that one covered.
The case hardening is ok not the best but what I like about them is the fact it's for the most part true to the colt SAA. I have a HD close up video on it in the HD playlist if you want to see it close up. Thanks for watching.
Call me ignorant, but Ruger is the revolver that i woukd choose. That Security-Six revolver you have in that pile of guns is one of the best you have in your inventory
John Grytbakk That's not gonna happen. Read recently in Guns & Ammo mag where the leaders of Colt back when they stopped producing them thought they would only be filling defense contacts in the future like the AR and so forth, so they destroyed or got rid (can't remember which) all the machinery to produce them. Sad indeed.
I originally moved from CT after living there for a while, I brought a lots of Colts gun as investment from the people who know Colt and worked for Colt for many years. Colt has get rids a lots of Good peoples and machinist like my friends. Colt made 3 introduced firearms like 1903, and Police Police and Detective. The parts of these guns are currently made in S. America. I have Python 6" blue Brought new in 1978 on my Graduation Days for $325.00 with law away plan. I still have it and I brought another one in 1993 for $399.00 blue. I brought S&W Model 29 in 8 3/4" after Sun of Sam incident in 1977 the gun was used in Nickel plate and in new in presentation case for $250.00. I had a lots of parts that taken from production lines from Colt and Ruger. Now I moved to MD.
i have the exact same security six as you a blued 6 inch and i have a custom redhawk 4 and half inch barreled. tack driver 44. thousands of reloads later and still tight as new.i love smiths too but i keep them in safe.😉
good vidio man.im like you im a revolver man,always been a fan of Ruger built like a B.S.H and easy to do trigger work on. and will out last about any other revolver as far as durability goes.i love em and in a Shtf situation i would grab my security six over any of my other handguns and of course my mini 14😉😛.two very Robust weapons that you could stake your life on.keep making vids brother.
Hey friend, I have not been getting comment alert notifications in several days, and I opoligise for not responding latley. I hope they fix the TH-cam system, so I get email comment alerts. I am shooting uspsa in a week and will post Cz tactical sport .40 limited vs. glock 17 production comparison. Have a great day friend...in Paradise.
Lol. Any prelock s&w 27 for $600 I'd buy in a millisecond. You might actually look at them. The 27-2 3.5" is my favorite flavor of revolver ever. Prefer it even to my 4" colt python.
Yeah, no problem with revolvers at all. People choose semi autos though just because they cannot put another moon clip in 0,000000000001 seconds like Jerry.
Yeah gonna do a video on em soon yeah i really want a colt python but they cost way too much saw one used at a local gun shop and range i go to they wanted 2500
Pintos will get you there, but I'd rather drive a Benz. If you can afford it, get it. If not enjoy what you have and ask me when your at my range if you can shoot my python. I'd never deny anyone a test drive
Pinning the barrel was an older manufacturing technique to help secure the barrel from moving after many years of use. With modern machining and manufacturing it became a waste of time and money. The new Smiths are "crush fitted" or torqued at such an amazingly tight tolerance that they will never move and will stay rock solid for the entire life of the firearm. A pin would be a complete waste of time and money and would have zero purpose for todays gun barrels. Now the cylinder recessing was only done by Smith and Wesson for rim fires and magnums because cartridges used to have heads that were folded or crimped over the walls of the cartridge, called balloon-head cartridges.. The cartridge was weaker at the head and the recessed cylinder helped with strength around the head. Cartridges are no longer produced this way and haven't been for many many decades. It was no longer needed due to advances in bullet manufacturing, so it was dropped. End of Story. It wasn't just because S&W wanted to cut costs. That is crap spread around by collectors and gun show dealers to ask nearly 2 grand for a 40-50 year old gun that is absolutely no different and is actually weaker. YES WEAKER in a few key areas. All pre 1983 S&W Model 29s don't have what S&W calls "The endurance package". It has harder heat treatment of the yoke, stronger radiused trigger and hammer pins, deeper lock up notches and a tighter cylinder fit. Don't take my word for it though, look it up. You are much better off getting a brand new one or one that is only a few years old. After 83 they were made better and stronger. It's a simple fact. The pinned and recessed jive that the collectors spew is complete garbage. What is sad is a lot of buyers that are out to get a Smith M29 believe that nonsense. Now the vintage grips were nicer. That is true. The beauty of the Model 29 though, is the frame itself hasn't changed in many many decades and the vintage grips will fit the new ones perfectly. You can get a very nice set of early 80s or late 70s grips for a $100-150 on ebay, maybe less at a gun show. The earlier ones go for more but are not usually in good condition. You can also find perfect reproductions that look like authentic vintage grips, only brand spanking new. You just need to take time to look for them.
Colt revolvers never had, or needed, a pin. Why? The rifling twist causes the barrel to be torqued TIGHTER. Reversing the direction of twist (or barrel threading) is all that is needed. Colt uses a LH rifling twist. S&W a RH. The force of turque on the barrel is OPPOSITE the twist, which means the Colt barrel is torqued to the RIGHT when fired...the direction of rotation to TIGHTEN the barrel in the frame. No pin needed. No "crush fit" needed.
I LOVE it when all the girls come out of the safe at the same time :-)
Joe P Aren't they beautiful😂
Thanks for watching.
John Wayne may even show up.
great videos batjac. love them old smith revolvers. i wish they were easier to find in Canada. i also wish we were allowed snubs. hang on to your gun rights!! keep em coming!! :)
just want to say I've grown to appreciate your channel a lot. I bought a walther ppk/s 22LR a month ago and like your videos!
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Thank you very much as I appreciate you being a subscriber.
Nice collection of wheel guns and very interesting info as good vid....
Thanks for watching.
Nice collection of your table-top center pieces. You're absolutely right about the prices going up on Colts, I was amazed to see what my Diamondback may be worth.
Really enjoy your videos, nothing like wheel guns works of art.
Thank you.
At what value would you put the Security-Six revolver you showed us at the beginning of your video? I have a 4 " barrel on mine.
Your channel provides some of the best revolver info on TH-cam. I certainly appreciate your opinion.
Thank you very much for that!!!
Like the RIA a lot - I've thought about collecting RIA handguns just for price point and usability.I bought a Model 10 in 1982 for $185. In today's money that would be $456. I'd say that new Smith revolvers are currently overpriced, and used two inch 10's and 64's are going almost as much as what you can get a new Model 10 or Model 64 for.
Thanks for watching.
Got my revolver fix this morning. Definitely love the older guns. I'll gladly pay the $5-600 price tag on Smiths if it gets me a pinned barrel and no lock lol.
Thanks for watching.
BATJAC J.W get a Remington 1875 SAA I have one but I need to get a new hammer for him
It's on my list.
BATJAC J.W when you do another video will mention my name in it I will appreciate it very very much friend I have been watching your videos for 2 years now and I have learned a lot of new stuff
Do you watch the JW's radio?
I'd sure like to find the Snw357 pinned barrel that was made for the NY pd long ago in 4inch
I love my Rock Island M206, bought in a small Texas town, $229, during the craziness of 2020. Wahi' Mountains
So point me in the right direction as to where to purchase a used S&W model 10 for home defense...
So whats a good price for a model 10-5 snubbie that has some wear on the cylinder but is otherwise looking good?
enjoyed this video, as I have all your videos...I've been thinking for a while that there seems to be a movement back to revolvers and less reckless abandon to acquire a semi auto at any cost. the market is finding it's balance? the days of less expensive/good deals of wheel guns may be over.
It would be nice to have all of those guns. A lot of good info, thanks.
It's a result of years of looking and finding the price that's right.
I just discovered your channel. I have a few older Smiths and just got an older Redhawk a month ago. The Redhawk is great fun ... get some Pachmayr grips though. I have S&W 586 no dash, 66-1 and a couple others. Beautiful guns and very nice shooters.
Thanks Mark.
A gaggle of revolvers there! 8D Performance Center S&W would be nice addition to anybody's firearm collection. Hope we get a National Carry Reciprocity Act passed and signed by Trump real soon!
Great video THANKS for all the info. Keep them coming.
Thanks for watching.
Love those pinned & recessed S & Ws. I have three Model 29-2s. I have several others, but oddly I don't have a model 10, yet. I have a 4 inch blue Python made in 1975, so I've got that one covered.
That's because S&W and Taurus had a long time business relationship. That greatly influenced their product line to this day.
Recessed chamber...way too many guys throw out the box and documents. SMH...
awesome channel
keep them coming.
Thanks.
You are a smart collector, BatJac!
I love old guns always have. Thanks.
any Taurus classic revolvers soon? need the info help me alot.🔫🇱🇷
Good info! It's not a revolver, but I think the Desert Eagle 50AE SS is a good candidate for appreciation.
Thanks for watching.
Batjac JW I'm missing a good single action cowboy gun in my collection. Does that Cimmaron have a decent amount/good looking case hardening?
The case hardening is ok not the best but what I like about them is the fact it's for the most part true to the colt SAA. I have a HD close up video on it in the HD playlist if you want to see it close up.
Thanks for watching.
BATJAC J.W thanks for the information. I enjoy the channel.
Love the jewels you have there.
Thanks Bob.
Call me ignorant, but Ruger is the revolver that i woukd choose. That Security-Six revolver you have in that pile of guns is one of the best you have in your inventory
Do you daily carry a revolver?
Wish Colt would start making the Python and Anaconda again. ....so nice.
John Grytbakk and the Detective Special again, too.
John Grytbakk That's not gonna happen. Read recently in Guns & Ammo mag where the leaders of Colt back when they stopped producing them thought they would only be filling defense contacts in the future like the AR and so forth, so they destroyed or got rid (can't remember which) all the machinery to produce them. Sad indeed.
Me too, Thanks for watching.
I originally moved from CT after living there for a while, I brought a lots of Colts gun as investment from the people who know Colt and worked for Colt for many years. Colt has get rids a lots of Good peoples and machinist like my friends. Colt made 3 introduced firearms like 1903, and Police Police and Detective. The parts of these guns are currently made in S. America. I have Python 6" blue Brought new in 1978 on my Graduation Days for $325.00 with law away plan. I still have it and I brought another one in 1993 for $399.00 blue. I brought S&W Model 29 in 8 3/4" after Sun of Sam incident in 1977 the gun was used in Nickel plate and in new in presentation case for $250.00. I had a lots of parts that taken from production lines from Colt and Ruger. Now I moved to MD.
Lots of good buyers details in this video. I'm looking fwd. to the Ruger S6 video!
Thanks for watching.
MINT S & W BLUE 4 in. MODEL 19-4 POSSIBLE UNFIRRED W/BOX. $825 IS THAT A GOOD PRICE?
Yeah I think so being with a box unfired.
That's a table full of fine steel (and aluminum), sitting there!
Awesomb!
Thanks!
Just say it bro you are a Revolver Enthusiast ..i love Revolvers as well. good info bro
LOL ok "i'm a revolver enthusiast"
BATJAC J.W Awesome brotha
i have the exact same security six as you a blued 6 inch and i have a custom redhawk 4 and half inch barreled. tack driver 44. thousands of reloads later and still tight as new.i love smiths too but i keep them in safe.😉
Thanks for watching.
great info...i too am a big snubby fan. God bless
Nothing like the classics. I am partial to COLT, but would never say no to a SMITH & WESSON.
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I would.
Great job brother
Thanks!
good vidio man.im like you im a revolver man,always been a fan of Ruger built like a B.S.H and easy to do trigger work on. and will out last about any other revolver as far as durability goes.i love em and in a Shtf situation i would grab my security six over any of my other handguns and of course my mini 14😉😛.two very Robust weapons that you could stake your life on.keep making vids brother.
Thanks!
Awesome, I have a 4 inch Ruger Security Six and I can't wait to shoot it. It feels like a tank of a revolver.
Nice.
Yeah it's got some scuff marks and surface scratches but overall it is in fine condition.
Love all the revolvers but you really need to get a Korth.
Very nice assortment.
Hey friend, I have not been getting comment alert notifications in several days, and I opoligise for not responding latley. I hope they fix the TH-cam system, so I get email comment alerts. I am shooting uspsa in a week and will post Cz tactical sport .40 limited vs. glock 17 production comparison. Have a great day friend...in Paradise.
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Yeah they have issues right now.
Good overall review. I feel the same as you do.
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great video. new sub, keep em coming
Thank you!! Welcome to the channel.
mmmm, tasty collection ya got there.
Thanks!
...I really like the 4 in blued Pythons
Lol. Any prelock s&w 27 for $600 I'd buy in a millisecond. You might actually look at them. The 27-2 3.5" is my favorite flavor of revolver ever. Prefer it even to my 4" colt python.
thanks man very good
I love Smith & Wesson's but my income not set for the 357 I want... tax season Feb 13 my B day that's on my I want list 😂
Thanks for watching.
Yeah, no problem with revolvers at all. People choose semi autos though just because they cannot put another moon clip in 0,000000000001 seconds like Jerry.
Nice
I know where you can find a super redhawk for a good price
I paid $803 for my (new) 686+ and $1050 (used) 629-5 mountain gun
Nice.
Yeah gonna do a video on em soon yeah i really want a colt python but they cost way too much saw one used at a local gun shop and range i go to they wanted 2500
They're too high in price not worth 2500 IMO.
Pintos will get you there, but I'd rather drive a Benz. If you can afford it, get it. If not enjoy what you have and ask me when your at my range if you can shoot my python. I'd never deny anyone a test drive
Pinning the barrel was an older manufacturing technique to help secure the barrel from moving after many years of use. With modern machining and manufacturing it became a waste of time and money. The new Smiths are "crush fitted" or torqued at such an amazingly tight tolerance that they will never move and will stay rock solid for the entire life of the firearm. A pin would be a complete waste of time and money and would have zero purpose for todays gun barrels.
Now the cylinder recessing was only done by Smith and Wesson for rim fires and magnums because cartridges used to have heads that were folded or crimped over the walls of the cartridge, called balloon-head cartridges.. The cartridge was weaker at the head and the recessed cylinder helped with strength around the head. Cartridges are no longer produced this way and haven't been for many many decades. It was no longer needed due to advances in bullet manufacturing, so it was dropped. End of Story. It wasn't just because S&W wanted to cut costs. That is crap spread around by collectors and gun show dealers to ask nearly 2 grand for a 40-50 year old gun that is absolutely no different and is actually weaker. YES WEAKER in a few key areas.
All pre 1983 S&W Model 29s don't have what S&W calls "The endurance package". It has harder heat treatment of the yoke, stronger radiused trigger and hammer pins, deeper lock up notches and a tighter cylinder fit. Don't take my word for it though, look it up.
You are much better off getting a brand new one or one that is only a few years old. After 83 they were made better and stronger. It's a simple fact. The pinned and recessed jive that the collectors spew is complete garbage. What is sad is a lot of buyers that are out to get a Smith M29 believe that nonsense.
Now the vintage grips were nicer. That is true. The beauty of the Model 29 though, is the frame itself hasn't changed in many many decades and the vintage grips will fit the new ones perfectly. You can get a very nice set of early 80s or late 70s grips for a $100-150 on ebay, maybe less at a gun show. The earlier ones go for more but are not usually in good condition. You can also find perfect reproductions that look like authentic vintage grips, only brand spanking new. You just need to take time to look for them.
Colt revolvers never had, or needed, a pin. Why? The rifling twist causes the barrel to be torqued TIGHTER. Reversing the direction of twist (or barrel threading) is all that is needed. Colt uses a LH rifling twist. S&W a RH. The force of turque on the barrel is OPPOSITE the twist, which means the Colt barrel is torqued to the RIGHT when fired...the direction of rotation to TIGHTEN the barrel in the frame. No pin needed. No "crush fit" needed.
Drool!
send me a private message I can help you out with your search for a Ruger Redhawk
Thanks ! right now i'm not buying any guns but i'll give you a shout when I do.
Nice