I went online to have a look at the price of the type 2 plug that you recommended, and right underneath was a type 2 plug with a built in uk 3 pin socket without the locking pin holes for even less money than the plug you recommended.
There are no resistors inside it though as it only has 3 pins (single phase)yet people are saying it still works, but some charging stations require a signal from the car before it will begin charging, so it may not work on all charging stations.@@thecapacitator8137
Wow, I´m speechless :) I bought this exact bike last year, and had no idea there is a posibility to charge it by type 2. Nice video and explanation :) keep on the good work.
Hi! I have a type 2 one phase L1 to Schukko cable. It does not have any pwm stuff inside. just a directly connected wire instead of button to signal proximitry and a resistor for max 16Amps current setting. I plan to extend it and put 2 more chargesers on one by one on L2-N, L3-N pins. I will wire Schucko plug socket for them. Sono extra electronic and stuff needed? I will have max 16Amps at both phases on 230V AC? so 3 times 16Amp current max? My chargers are L1 1.3kW, L2 2kW, L3 2kW. I have to plug L1 first, that has CAN communication to battery to open relay. I will plug in other 2kW chargers manually to socket on L2 then L3. I think better to use both phases instead of L1-N only to be similar flow on neutral, but some charge stations like in india have one phade Type2 AC only.... I am in EU, Hungary, here 3 phase is the common and if not balanced 3 phase load it reduce max power to 3.6kW.
Great video! You inspired me to buy a type 2 charger and convert one end to a kettle plug female connection for my Horwin CR6. But i would love the option like you do to change the connection to a standard 3 pin uk plug. Could you please tell me where you got your connectors from? The one i bought was awful! Thanks in advance 😊
Interesting video. How often did you test charging at a public charging station and how often did it work and how often did it NOT work? I'm asking myself if they would somehow stop charging or block your account if you charge with 500W instead of the 22kW that cars take. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I've tried 4 charging stations and two cables, they didn't work for me. I think some communication software from the car is required or something is wrong with the stations. I have 220 ohm resistor so it's not the cable.
The 220 ohm resistor goes between pp and earth, then you need 880 ohm resistor and a 1n4007 diode wired from cp to earth, and the diode only works in one direction, if you put it the wrong way round it won't work.@@lollett1
@@lollett1 The 220 ohm resistor goes between pp and earth, then you need 880 ohm resistor and a 1n4007 diode wired from cp to earth, and the diode only works in one direction, if you put it the wrong way round it won't work Reply
Great thanks for this video. I have bought the same plug adaptator for my Zéro S but I am afraid to try it I don''t want to burst my charger or any part of the bike due to an intensity too hight delivered. I saw some adaptator with a switch on the top of type 2 plug to unlock the plug at the end of charging process?.
The public charger has the same mains voltage as your house. It should be fine. The lock disconnects the resistors inside the plug which tells the public charger to release the plug. Alternatively you can do what I did in the video and modify the plug.
I have same adapter and resistors not works for public chargers in my country. I am curoius how the plug with switches looks inside. Maybe i can modify plug from video to works with manual switches.
The cells are the same chemistry as for Tesla's cars. I wish we could have the option of charging in less than an hour, esp when they're not fully depleted. At least there's the option, if you could spare the storage space, to carry solar panels and charge as you go.
Tesla's have an active thermal management system that allow them to charge so fast. It's less viable for bikes. Could maybe have solar if you had a trailer!
some way to charge the motorcycle in the street and the charger is not stolen, there are some motorcycles you just plug in the cable, the niu does not have a way to charge on public roads and then you leave it charging alone. Niu gt ... all Nius. Thanks!!
Great idea! Is this charging your 72v DIY battery or the standard one? I'd like to charge my TCMax at public chargers too. I presume the charge time is still the same, as you appear to be using the standard (10 amp) charger, yes?
@@thecapacitator8137 Have you removed the link to the waterproof connectors? You've got the link for the end type 2 plug but not the waterproof connectors in the middle. I used an outdoor masterplug inline socket from amazon for £8.99. I get so many comments from people plugging in. I think most from EV cars because I'm taking up 'their' charger 😂 I've used mine up and down the country with great success, screw those EV points that have the adapter built in, I can't use those and ended up pushing my bike a few miles to the next one.
@@hollow34 Great stuff! Sounds like your having fun! I got the plugs off ebay. You should find them if you search for SP17 waterproof connector. What bike you riding?
little trick put the charger in tank and run the cable trough the front side of the tank cover just enough space to charge without ur charger being able to be stolen
@kph8853 0 seconds ago Would it be safe to wire the charger connector head of the bike directly to the charger adaptor. Then you just plug directly into the public chargers when ready ? Would rather not have to lug around that big super Soco charger everywhere I go
If your vehicle is supplied with an external charger, it is because your vehicle doesn't have an onboard charger. Public chargers are NOT chargers. They are electrical outlets that allow you to plug your charger into. Hope this helps.
just me but seems like a miss from super soco to have a cable that connects directly rather than needing the charger connected by a third party device.
The bike's invertor will only draw what it needs, I think it's about 800watts. It's a pull (draw) rather than a push. Most public chargers over 7kW you have to pay for any how.
you can anyway set the maximum current needed via the resistor it talked about, so the charging station will know you won't need more than that. Even if the charger is going to allow a maximum input anyway.
@thecapacitator8137 different part of the world using different colouring. The reason I asked so I don't have to stay at the charging station measuring. But anyway, I found the diagram on wikipedia.
Don't forget to check local laws. I live in Germany. Amateurs are not allowed to do that here. I don't believe any other country in europe allows. That it works is one thing, who pay in accident, is another. You will be responsible for any issues. Type 2 cable manufacturer must test it before introducing it in the market. This cable is not tested after modifications regarding norms.
@@GauravRaina On the cheap Shoko to Type2 cables that skip negotiation step 2 but works for most chargers: Between PP -> R1 -> PE (R1 use a resistor based your cables rating) 13a (1.5mm) = 1k5 20a (2.5mm) = 680r 32a (6mm) = 220r Between CP -> (+)Diode 1n4007(-) -> 880r -> PE * 880r resistors are harder to find so 820r + 68r = 888r is within most chargers tollerances * Remember the diode only works in one direction Anode(+) to CP and Cathode(-) to 880r
I went online to have a look at the price of the type 2 plug that you recommended, and right underneath was a type 2 plug with a built in uk 3 pin socket without the locking pin holes for even less money than the plug you recommended.
Funny you should say. I'm testing one right now. Seems good. Video to follow.
There are no resistors inside it though as it only has 3 pins (single phase)yet people are saying it still works, but some charging stations require a signal from the car before it will begin charging, so it may not work on all charging stations.@@thecapacitator8137
Wow, I´m speechless :) I bought this exact bike last year, and had no idea there is a posibility to charge it by type 2. Nice video and explanation :) keep on the good work.
These are worth looking at too...
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Just realise your visiting Helmsley, one of my favourite places, the other being Thornton Le Dale.
That's right, it's Helmsley. A lovely place and very popular with bikers.
Yes, what a great idea.
I'm will do this adapter next week.
From the type 2, to the small water proof plug.
Great thinking
Hi!
I have a type 2 one phase L1 to Schukko cable.
It does not have any pwm stuff inside.
just a directly connected wire instead of button to signal proximitry and a resistor for max 16Amps current setting.
I plan to extend it and put 2 more chargesers on one by one on L2-N, L3-N pins.
I will wire Schucko plug socket for them.
Sono extra electronic and stuff needed?
I will have max 16Amps at both phases on 230V AC?
so 3 times 16Amp current max?
My chargers are L1 1.3kW, L2 2kW, L3 2kW.
I have to plug L1 first, that has CAN communication to battery to open relay.
I will plug in other 2kW chargers manually to socket on L2 then L3.
I think better to use both phases instead of L1-N only to be similar flow on neutral, but some charge stations like in india have one phade Type2 AC only....
I am in EU, Hungary, here 3 phase is the common and if not balanced 3 phase load it reduce max power to 3.6kW.
There seems to be a diode connected as well, could you please tell me the value of the 2 resistors and the type of diode.
I'm using one of these now...
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Great video! You inspired me to buy a type 2 charger and convert one end to a kettle plug female connection for my Horwin CR6. But i would love the option like you do to change the connection to a standard 3 pin uk plug. Could you please tell me where you got your connectors from? The one i bought was awful! Thanks in advance 😊
I'm using one of these now...
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnecufR
Interesting video. How often did you test charging at a public charging station and how often did it work and how often did it NOT work? I'm asking myself if they would somehow stop charging or block your account if you charge with 500W instead of the 22kW that cars take. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I charge fairly regularly on Connected Kerb and Pod Point chargers. They don't seem to care.
I've tried 4 charging stations and two cables, they didn't work for me. I think some communication software from the car is required or something is wrong with the stations. I have 220 ohm resistor so it's not the cable.
Do you have the ~880ohm + 1n4007 diode between PE and CP?
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The 220 ohm resistor goes between pp and earth, then you need 880 ohm resistor and a 1n4007 diode wired from cp to earth, and the diode only works in one direction, if you put it the wrong way round it won't work.@@lollett1
@@lollett1 The 220 ohm resistor goes between pp and earth, then you need 880 ohm resistor and a 1n4007 diode wired from cp to earth, and the diode only works in one direction, if you put it the wrong way round it won't work
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This is the easiest option now...
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Great thanks for this video. I have bought the same plug adaptator for my Zéro S but I am afraid to try it I don''t want to burst my charger or any part of the bike due to an intensity too hight delivered. I saw some adaptator with a switch on the top of type 2 plug to unlock the plug at the end of charging process?.
The public charger has the same mains voltage as your house. It should be fine.
The lock disconnects the resistors inside the plug which tells the public charger to release the plug. Alternatively you can do what I did in the video and modify the plug.
I have same adapter and resistors not works for public chargers in my country. I am curoius how the plug with switches looks inside. Maybe i can modify plug from video to works with manual switches.
The cells are the same chemistry as for Tesla's cars. I wish we could have the option of charging in less than an hour, esp when they're not fully depleted. At least there's the option, if you could spare the storage space, to carry solar panels and charge as you go.
Tesla's have an active thermal management system that allow them to charge so fast. It's less viable for bikes. Could maybe have solar if you had a trailer!
some way to charge the motorcycle in the street and the charger is not stolen, there are some motorcycles you just plug in the cable, the niu does not have a way to charge on public roads and then you leave it charging alone. Niu gt ... all Nius. Thanks!!
Soy español y no entiendo jajaja gracias
Merhaba türkiyeden selamlar. Cp ve pp nereye bağlı ucundaki dirençler kaç ohm? Bir devre şeması var mı?
Ben daha kendi sarj cihazını kullanamıyorum 9 aydır bozuk adamlar ne yapmış
Great idea! Is this charging your 72v DIY battery or the standard one? I'd like to charge my TCMax at public chargers too. I presume the charge time is still the same, as you appear to be using the standard (10 amp) charger, yes?
Yes you can do the same on the standard battery. Should take the same time as usual.
Really practical solution. What is the reference for your waterproof connectors ?
Link in the description.
@@thecapacitator8137 Have you removed the link to the waterproof connectors? You've got the link for the end type 2 plug but not the waterproof connectors in the middle. I used an outdoor masterplug inline socket from amazon for £8.99. I get so many comments from people plugging in. I think most from EV cars because I'm taking up 'their' charger 😂 I've used mine up and down the country with great success, screw those EV points that have the adapter built in, I can't use those and ended up pushing my bike a few miles to the next one.
@@hollow34 Great stuff! Sounds like your having fun! I got the plugs off ebay. You should find them if you search for SP17 waterproof connector. What bike you riding?
little trick put the charger in tank and run the cable trough the front side of the tank cover just enough space to charge without ur charger being able to be stolen
My charger doesn't fit in the tank.
@kph8853
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Would it be safe to wire the charger connector head of the bike directly to the charger adaptor. Then you just plug directly into the public chargers when ready ?
Would rather not have to lug around that big super Soco charger everywhere I go
If your vehicle is supplied with an external charger, it is because your vehicle doesn't have an onboard charger.
Public chargers are NOT chargers. They are electrical outlets that allow you to plug your charger into.
Hope this helps.
Hi, what colour positive and negative, please?
Is fast charging automatic or need to rewire for CCS charging system?
just me but seems like a miss from super soco to have a cable that connects directly rather than needing the charger connected by a third party device.
Sorry my brother what did you wiring up? did you just cut the end that came with the cable and put your own on?
Yes
Excelent!
Are there specific public chargers to use e.g. 3kW or 7kW, and slow charging to not damage the bike charger?
The bike's invertor will only draw what it needs, I think it's about 800watts. It's a pull (draw) rather than a push. Most public chargers over 7kW you have to pay for any how.
you can anyway set the maximum current needed via the resistor it talked about, so the charging station will know you won't need more than that. Even if the charger is going to allow a maximum input anyway.
I wonder if I can charge a 250W/h portable power station like this, in theory.
Yes you could.
Where do I find/buy these resistors? What type are they?
They come with the plug. Link in the description.
any chance you can make me one of these for my SuperSoco TC Max and i can purchase it from you??
Sorry no but you can get one ready made here... www.evbitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html
How do you know what wire is positive, please?
If you need to ask that question you shouldn't be doing this. Sorry.
@thecapacitator8137 different part of the world using different colouring. The reason I asked so I don't have to stay at the charging station measuring. But anyway, I found the diagram on wikipedia.
@@897aa33 It's AC, there is no positive. Please be careful.
@thecapacitator8137 There is a positive that corresponds with ev station female socket. L1 l2 and l3
@@897aa33 What does the L stand for?
Clue: It's not positive.
Don't forget to check local laws. I live in Germany. Amateurs are not allowed to do that here. I don't believe any other country in europe allows.
That it works is one thing, who pay in accident, is another. You will be responsible for any issues.
Type 2 cable manufacturer must test it before introducing it in the market. This cable is not tested after modifications regarding norms.
Best to do nothing to avoid any potential problems.
Resistor values?
Sorry can't remember. They come with the plug. Link in the description.
Please share resistor values as this product can’t be delivered in my country
@@GauravRaina
On the cheap Shoko to Type2 cables that skip negotiation step 2 but works for most chargers:
Between PP -> R1 -> PE (R1 use a resistor based your cables rating)
13a (1.5mm) = 1k5
20a (2.5mm) = 680r
32a (6mm) = 220r
Between CP -> (+)Diode 1n4007(-) -> 880r -> PE
* 880r resistors are harder to find so 820r + 68r = 888r is within most chargers tollerances
* Remember the diode only works in one direction Anode(+) to CP and Cathode(-) to 880r
680ohms 1500ohms for 16amp 220 ohms for 32amp cable but none work on my local chargers.
@@sgsuper1150 Do you have the ~880ohm + 1n4007 diode between PE and CP?
I don't get it...
I'll be uploading a new video in the next couple of days. Much easier way.