What Does Democracy Mean To The Chinese? [Street Interview] | ASIAN BOSS
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- Despite a recent report that China is poised to overtake the U.S. economy by 2020, China still remains very much a mystery in the eyes of the Western world and is often portrayed by the Western media as a communist country where its citizens have no freedom. So, we hit the streets of Beijing, China to ask ordinary Chinese people what democracy and freedom mean to them. This is what they had to say.
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It took our team over 6 hours to get a few sets of people on the streets of Beijing for this street interview and we did our best to get as many different views as possible. Given that we are a small media startup with very limited resources, we are simply not able to conduct street interviews in every city and every country to get the most "unbiased" (which itself is inherently subjective) answers. Rather, the purpose of our videos is to present a perspective and trigger a meaningful conversation/debate. If you consider yourself a part of the Asian Boss community, keep your discussions civil and try to understand different points of view. Thanks for watching and stay curious.
Asian Boss I think it’ll be interesting to have the same interview to Chinese immigrants overseas. To compare the results.
Pat C good idea!
@@euphony5552 I am a Chinese overseas, I pretty much agree with everything they said in the video. PS: I left when I was a teenager, it's been 10 years since I left China. I still go back to visit every couple of years. The drastic improvement amazes me every time I go back.
You should ask them what they think about Huawei CFO meng wanzhou arrest in Canada
and what do they think about the sudden arrest of many Canadians in China as retaliation against Meng's arrest?
@@Nothingnesslol How is it retaliation? Those people broke Chinese laws, that's why they were arrested.
How about redoing a similar interview but in Taiwan?
Or even a different region of China, like the north west region, East Turkistan.
@@snowballeffect7812 Turkistan isn't even in China
@McK Ode They literally ask at the end of a lot of the videos what region we would like them to ask next. I don't think he's being disrespectful at all.
Hvad Hvem in west, America, France, Germany, Italy, Canada etc... too.
@@jianghaowang2854 i think he's referring to xinjiang
People nowadays don't like to distinguish democracy and freedom... But actually, they are different.
You got the point. During the cold war the slogan of USSR is democracy and the slogan for the western world is freedom. How ironic
good point
Good point!
So true
Clever.
I love the way they convey their thoughts, really reflects how good they are educated
How well they are educated
" FREEDOM is relative!!" - that line hit me the most
that's the translation..... he actually mean Freedom is tasty in China.
@@NavinKumarIndia I can understand Chinese and that guy defiantly said 'freedom is relative' and not whatever the f you just said.
Yes, a very intelligent young guy. I feel good future for China
@@NavinKumarIndia Why you twisted it? What is your intention?
@@NavinKumarIndia bot, did you even understand Chinese language? You can just stick with your toilet
As much as I love your content, please for the love of god improve the translation. So many nuances lost and so many sentences incoherent ("cleaning-up of the society"...? what?), as a native Chinese speaker who has been abroad for decades and understand the controversy of the issue, whenever I look at that English subtitle, I am in fear of viewers from other cultural backgrounds getting the wrong impression of Chinese people due to meanings lost in translation. Please exercise caution and due diligence in curation when selecting such topics.
Edit: I would gladly help any Chinese translation efforts if need be as well
respect
that translation"depends on their social status" is also totally wrong. that girl actually said "there are different aspects". Sigh...
@EZ - 12CA 796485 Cawthra Park SS She was contemplating her word use and it did not came out very coherent, but the gist is that she thought the review and rating system (审核, in western context it would be something like the M18 rating system, in Chinese context it would be more of outright censorship under the whim of the state) serves as a form of control and moderation (she used the word 清理, which literally means declutter or cleanup) of the social environment (社会环境, a Chinese political term which means external factors that affect an individual, for example the media, social norm and etc).
In short she was overall approving of the state's measures and thought it helped clear bad things from entering the public.
Omg how's your wenzhounese!!?? you're a "chinese" speaker right??
@@eb.3764 Not all Chinese is from Wenzhou. China is huge.
Democracy means different things for different people but even democracy in the West is completely different from each other
But they all have one thing in common. The people can choose their government.
@@adlerzwei are u sure and how about America
adlerzwei wow , trust me , that is a illusion .
@@malikanuur4298 Americans have a big election every 2 years. ;-)
Example: western citizens have the freedom to vote for their president, Chinese citizens have the freedom to feel safe late at night.
I've been to all of the tier 1 cities and most of the tier 2 cities in China and personally I feel these opinions in the video is fairly representative at least for the major cities.
And, just to set the record straight for those who'd like to say "it's not the people it's the government". The current membership of the CCP is around 100 millions, which is about 6.66% of the population. And if you consider their family and friends, you can almost say every single Chinese person has something to do with the Chinese government. Chinese government is literately of the people, by the people and for the people considering what it consists of and what it's done for the past few decades. It's the most efficient government that's best taken care its people on the planet for the past few decades. Period.
On the other hand, as an outsider who's been in China for the last 10 years, this ubiquitous censorship in every corner of China is something I can never get over with. It's a lot more serious than what's shown in this interview. It's not just the "wall". It's when you go on to the internet and discuss anything, you'll see people using funny abbreviations or mask their words with pinyin mixed up with kanji/hanzi just so that they don't get reported. Don't get me wrong, it's not that they're gonna get reported to the government. Chinese government doesn't bother itself with any nobody. You can say whatever the heck you want because you're no influencer. It's the forums, the hosting services or the companies that have their own censorship teams just to stay away from trouble coming from the government. It's not like the Chinese government cares much about what's said on the forums, but when they do, somebody's gonna get a hurt real bad. And as any smart businessperson would do, publishers of any kind in China apply their own censorship. Your everyday Chinese person wouldn't even talk about this not because they're afraid, they've got used to that and don't feel it at all. And say, when their threads get locked or reported, they blame the forum, not the government.
Still, if you're no Chinese citizen, none of this is really your business to mind. There are so many "non-democratic" countries in the world but they're just invisible to most people's eyes. You don't hear people talk about whether Singapore is democratic or not because 1. they're pro west; 2. they're modern 3. they're not as influential. China is exactly the opposite. It's not pro west, it's not as modern and it's a superpower. So it gets put in the spotlight and everyone seems to have an opinion about it even most never even been to the country or know one single Chinese person.
@Monsieur Tarzan
Is that so?
It's also people's government because unlike in the western countries, the elites do not have much power over the government at all and they can be easily got in prison for a crime (what isn't common in the west, where the money rules).
Yes! This is a concept that people who only know about 'Western-type of democracy' will always struggle to comprehend. It's a different system and obviously, it is working for China, because it is tailored-fit to all things China.
I can't with other people saying that the Western-type of democracy is the only one that will work and is acceptable to the world.
What I really want to know is: did that lady catch her dog at 3:04 ?
Lol
lolol it's actually something happens a lot in China and in terms of that, US ppl are doing a way better job
@MrAmsterdamCity1 Stfu racist pig
make me laugh, oh my god.
@inxtarobloxian2 people in China protest against the Yulin festival as well. Also, you probably eat pork in which case pigs and dogs are practically the same intelligence wise. Racist
“I think China is very democracy, but it depends on your social status.”
Wrong translation... 层次（ceng ci）!= social status
So pretty much like the United States
it’s the same thing in america
RareFaction oh sorry what does it mean I just read the subtitles
Jacobius Pineconalhotra she said “different aspect”, I guess you can interpret it that way too. But the main idea is that in China sometime there’s more freedom and sometime there isn’t any.
I really like this video because it shows such a different opinion on the principle of democracy. Many "western" people think that they can define what democracy is or what is "right " for a political system. But I think that exactly this opinion is problematic. I, as a German, would probably not like the Chinese political system because I'm used to other standards. But I honestly think that I wouldn't like the American system as well. Being used to something and thinking that it is right (or not) doesn't mean it is right for everyone. This thinking, to have some "better" knowledge than others has led in the past to big problems, as everybody hopefully knows. Therefore I really like this insight and how Chinese look at their system from a Chinese way. As mentioned in the beginning this cannot be called an "unbiased" study but for a first insight this is actually quite helpful.
jojo k , Democracy is subjective...Western system of electioneering system is just one and another form of Meritocracy (Chinese system) is another...The question is, which one is better? To me anything that can provide decent lifestyle like wealth is the utmost...Having nothing and bragging about free speech is just a deceptive form of Democracy an easy tool use by politicians to fool the ignorants...
I agree a lot with your use of the term "Chinese way". I'm a Korean, born in America, I don't have a strong definition of what that really is, but I could decipher the general attitude portrayed here. The biggest discrepancy in the way of progress in America, seems to be that the protests and general unrest are more of an aggregation of personal issues and personal attitude problems, rather than a fault of the system we are part of. I hear a lot of students loudly spout fallacious arguments about how x should be treated better, then go on to treat everyone else terribly. I hear a lot of country people from my hometown yelling about how hard it is to make a living, when those specific people were given the same education and life choices as us, and decided to drop out of highschool or whatnot. There are actual problems with the system, don't get me wrong, and I can't speak for all of us. But, even my father who works in the hood and owns a convenience store... He voted Trump, who just caused the government to close because he wanted some wall funded. And now the government shut down and the people who used to frequent his store won't have food stamps soon. And my father is the one complaining. And as I lay in bed here at a liberal college, the people protesting outside are talking about equal rights and debate about confederate statues, while graphs about how 1% of americans take 90% of the money it makes sit in corners of the internet. Theres a giant lack of focus on anyone but themselves, and theres a giant issue with learning and defining what life is. We should learn to live with the consequences of our life choices rather than spit at the system that raised us. Maybe this is all just me, but living here is suffocating to be honest.
Atleast democracies don't discriminate people on the basis of religion and unlike china
@@abinashdeka8550 whites discriminating the blacks? Democracy?
you support literal totalitarianism in china but let me guess you probably hate erdogan right? as a german
As a Chinese who studies abroad since teenage time, it is reli a mixed feeling because I see and hear two perspectives about my country and it’s always all negative from the western side, but every time when I go back to China, life there is always safe and colourful, now ppl don’t bring wallets because we can pay for anything with phones or cards, the infrastructure in cities are also extremely good and convenient, the high-speed- rail can reach 350km/h etc. People in the west world just has to know, not all internationals coming to your country is because their country is poor and has nothing to offer, at least for me, I just wanted to see the world and do not intend to change my nationality on my Passport.
Don't really have negative views on China and it's people, just the government tbh
@@Miguel-vz1mq interesting view, but not practical in reality in the case with China, where good governance has produced results for its people who are enjoying the benefits and a future where the people have confidence in. There is a direct link between the govt. & the people it serves which the west may not understand the level of trust between the Chinese people & their govt.
@@Wbliss Good for the Chinese then, but what about its neighbors though?
I mean, ASEAN countries are willing to negotiate the South China Sea, but the Chinese government just does what it wants and uses its military as a solution
And just a quick question, do you know about the whole Chinese Government debt trap it uses against other smaller nations?
@@Miguel-vz1mq debt trap？ The Western world colonized Africa and Southeast Asia for hundreds of years, only plundering, not even a few complete roads left after they left. Now China is investing in Africa, building roads, railways, ports, modernizing them, just a few minor trade disputes (of course China is not here for charity) and now the West is calling it a debt trap? So what has the West been doing for the past hundred years?
@@Super_Hao I'm not talking about the West, I'm talking about China here. How the hell do you justify targetting countries that you know can't pay certain amount of debt just so you can take their territory?
I'm in no way saying that the West are some kind of Heroes and China is the villain, China's action speak for itself, and what it's doing right now is no better than the West
I'm born and raised in Germany, but my parents are Chinese. Growing up I used to be ashamed of my Chinese origin as the Western media influenced me a lot. I actually hated China. But my parents were always defending China, so I wanted to know more about the country, the people who are living their and their culture. I really wanted to know if all those things Western media taught us is true or not. After I graduated from "High School" I spent more than a year in China. And I started to love the country. It's so so so different from what I've been told. I really enjoyed the time and love the Chinese people. Of course there are some rude Chinese who are uncivilized etc. but this is just a minority. Now I'm traveling around the world. I've seen so many different places and people. And I have to say: The time in China is the best time I've ever had in life.There is no place I've felt that safe and peaceful and just happy. The culture is so interesting and the people are so respectful and lovely. Can't believe that I've been used to hate Chinese people and the country in the past. Now I'm visiting and exploring China a lot of times. I even started to study Chinese Studies at college to learn the language and learn more about the judicial and political system, the culture, history and so on. People need to stop listen to Media, stop judging and need to experience the country by themselves.
read your comments, feel very moved
There are rude people are in USA too,call them right wingers mostly MAGA trump supporter and you would literally gets shot down while studying in USA school in some random day. I don't know what's the wrong with western countries.
Germany despite being developed countries for so long still have homeless people but china have already lifted people from poverty and it's a miracle for 21st considering how a big devloping country is able to lift 800 million people out of poverty in just few decades 👍.
谢谢你
Welcome back to home😊
China need more people like you.
I live in europe and I think the biggest problem is, that western people tend to project their values to other countries like china. Like "we value democracy, and I believe it's also the best for your country, and if your country is not like that, then your country should change for better". When I was in china a friend told me: Everyone has values and opinions, but don't judge what's best for other people by your own subjective norms, because you don't even know if those people like it or not. What's good for you doesn't automatically mean, that it's also wanted by other people
Hm. Almost sounds like everyone should have a basic foundation rights afforded to them, that should not be infringed, and beyond that the freedom to do as they please as long as they do not infringe the aforementioned rights. Like, I dunno, a constitutional republic or something.
but it's objectively worse and these people just don't see it. Ofc if you're taught in school that everything your country does is the best and other countries are bad you're gonna believe it
@@SgtSuissie how is it objectively worse? Do you realize that in American schools, we're taught that our country is the best and everyone else lacks the freedoms we have? Americans and westerners in general are coming from a POV that the way we live should be the standard of the entire planet when that's just not how it is.
@@TIENxSHINHAN jokes on you I'm swiss. China has literal concentration camps for muslims. There's so many inhuman things this country does. I don't know how you wanna excuse that
it reminds me of colonization. i can feel the spirit or the better word mental core of european people.
2:25 holy moly the drip
Asia has been setting trends for the past decade. It's awesome.
exactly. asians fashion is awesome
I kinda want to buy an eyeglass chain because of her 🤣
@@emilymangiaracina54 Yeah, it just look more practical when you need to "take them off" without putting them away.
@@gilnahnu but not sub indians HAHAHA
India is considered the largest democracy country in the world but still practices caste system and western countries have no problem with it.
No, Babasaheb scrapped caste system by burning Manusmriti that too like 50 years ago. The constitution itself is Anti-casteist and gives equal rights to Everyone irrespective of caste, colour, religion, etc. Congratulations 🥳 you just made a fool of yourself
@@61.pranamyajoshi23 yesss you r right.
@@61.pranamyajoshi23 As long as you believe it from the bottom of your heart, we outsiders are totally fine with that... scrapped it or not, you are still the largest democratic joke of the world...
@@61.pranamyajoshi23 only in paper, people still practice caste.
@@intheendshewillknowiwasntb5841 What matters is citizens' rights under the law. If everyone is equal under the law, then the caste system is not a valid critique of Indian democracy.
Really great video. I wish more people would listen to real Chinese people's perspectives like this instead of making assumptions. Great work!
Your a idiot
@@bonneydahlquist1857 "you're!" So who is the idiot?
@@bonneydahlquist1857 So you don't think people should listen to different perspectives because you dont trust them to make decisions on their own. Seems pretty brain washed to me.
Bonney Dahlquist brainwashed ????
@@bonneydahlquist1857 You must be brainwashed. You are not telling your real mind.
“Is China democratic?”
“Well, people are nice to me”
I see that you listened the whole conversation. Well done👏👏
Lol
The level of Democracy should be judged by how much people's wishes are being fulfilled by the government, in that sense, China has a higher level of democracy than the US.
@@newcrew4554 That's quite a mental leap you made there 😂
@@scottwales9178 That is a simple fact. Democracy should be the end goal, not just a fixed format.
To all the people here responding with your "how about asking those in Xinjiang/Tibet/Taiwan/HK"...all the "but they have no real freedom / rights....". Now of course you can keep picking on the classic issues with China to support your classic views of China. It is true that they *are* issues.
But this video clearly tells you several uncomfortable truths:
1. Most Chinese are too satisfied with what they have to bother and risk social upheaval, even if the more educated ones may yearn for more personal freedoms. They clearly place the economy, social order and stability, personal safety and good moral values above all else, so once these are attained, they have little appetite for change.
2. The average Chinese, especially those who have travelled or "climbed the wall" using VPN, no longer sees the Western brand of democracy as desirable. They can see the positives and benefits of living in liberal democracies, but they also see the negatives and problems, including dysfunctional governments (as well demonstrated by the current virus response). All things considered, they would rather have what they currently have.
3. The Chinese are not ignorant to their own government's failings, or what they lack. They didn't form their opinions because they don't know better, and need some enlightened Westerner to go liberate them. They know what the world is like, and they know their country can do better. But, they also feel that their views are heard and they are able to contribute to change, despite having no right to change their government.
Like the numerous Western governments hoping China will implode with its own citizens clamouring for democracy and freedom, but wonder why it has yet to happen....well, this is why. Ditto to the rest of you.
Thank you!
If you can read Chinese, you know that we abuse our government on our social media
Who told you we would be censored by the government? We know the world and you don't know China
Are you wumao?
@@hexyko4850 if you are referring to me, no. I am a Singaporean, and a major CCP-critic even. It will be rather generous of them to give me even a cent!
I hope the reason that they wouldn’t listen the explanation is arrogance but not stupidity.
Actually in the west, we are always being watch, not by the government but by all the big companies that get our data from Facebook (meta), google (alphabet), and so on, we give them our information necessary to know everything about us
@Mr.Beant 🤣
All theses corporations work for the USA government. Any attempt of revolution can be repressed in the west.
well after reading 25-50 comments I can conclude that different people have different meanings of democacy and no place is perfect because It is made by human.
Yash Rajput, true.
Words getting different meanings because arrogant ignorant assuming the meaning of it.
That’s why definitions are important. People can’t just make up their own definition of democracy. That is insane.
Democracy just means majority rules, not necessarily freedom, it could sometimes even lead to dictatorship. But many common ppl are too shallow to grab the concept and have an emotion- based definition of it (good or bad).
It’s true and even within democracy it is ambiguous. The US isn’t a true democracy. We are a republic like the ancient romans were. The people vote senators to vote on laws on behalf of you. True democracy in its basic ideal form is YOU having the absolute power to vote for the law itself. Not having a senator/congressman vote for you by proxy.
Ok lol, I'm reading the comments and it seems like many people are paying no attention to ANYTHING these people said lol.
exactly, most of them were just made comments by looking at the title.
Agree, media shapes prejudices and stereotypes, why not just see how us Chinese people think and anyone who has been to China.
@Swolecard You are not joking? I mean, at least for the 21st century's China, this is totally nonsense.
@@larrychen4831 If you agree that media shapes prejudices and stereotypes have you ever thought to look at how the media you've watched throughout your life has influenced your prejudices and stereotypes or specifically what "democracy" means.
What do you expect from brainwashed people lol.. They see China they yell "Ouighour " "Tibet" "Chinese steal our JOB" "Cheap stuff"
"Im not against walls"'
Eren Jaeger 'yes you are.'
"But I still want to see whats beyond it."
Edit: It was a goddamn joke Idgaf about your goddamn walls
Nice.
too much sugar will kill me, but i like cake.
@@bobwong6131 lol
Build the trump wall
Beyond the wall, we just need a VPN, very easy to get.
"They shouldn't be defining what democracy is" THIS
Great video. You never see these perspectives in western media.
@@chtp You are right. Propaganda is their thing.
Yeah, because TH-cam is so chinese?!
@@julian7946 just my two cents. If you search in chinese youtube will start looking pretty chinese to you! Just my 2 cents :p
@g What's your point? Asian Boss isn't state run.
@Coelophysis western mainstream is not state-run , but they are big money corporate-run , who controls the state. It's pointless to say state-run or non state-run when you don't see where the real disease is. Western country elites are so good at deceiving this and many people are lazy to think, so that many people even have no clue about many disasters happened by design, for e.g. 1929 great recession, WWII. I don't even need to tell you 2008 subprime crisis. The people can have all they want ,as long as the money is controlled by a few people. China is in a completely different situation. So don't impose your ideology on China when foundimentally they are different. You can't run OS system on Windows.
4:09 *social media has a large negative impact and the impact is severe.* That's what exactly happened in my country....
Is it the US?
@@madonut6836 Nope, Indonesia....
other countries don't want to admit that china actually made the right decision setting up the great firewall... endless access to information does not result in an informed public which completely defeats the promise of democracy.
@@buffdaddddddddy The problem with social media is that it fails to correctly label legitimate journalism, and allows falsehoods to masquerade as facts. Once this happens, people select the "facts" that they want to see and their biases are deepened. I know people who keep sharing articles that pander to their fears, and none of the sources are legitimate news outlets, all some rando freelance bloggers spreading things disguised as "news."
@@canto_v12 Your right.
I've been to China 4x times (this year 5th) and the vibe I get from people in general (cities /and countryside) is a happy, content, relaxed, positieve, hopeful vibe.
Same about chinese ppl who does not like the chinese govt? lol
@@Adrian-qi5ii who for example
@@Adrian-qi5ii you Spanish huh
@@adamheckmann5132 those in Tiananmen?...huigurs?...tibetans?...ppl oppressed and murdered by the Communist party's dictatorship?
I'm spaniard yes
@@Adrian-qi5ii hablas de la españa racista donde el fascismo crece como nunca?
Guys, how many of you really know about China's history and culture when you judge and try to change this country? Dont be silly about thinking Chinese are silly.
Chinese are fully aware of what rights they are lack of comparing with the west (e.g. speech freedom on specific topics). But believe it or not, that's not the most concern of Chinese.
If you dont know about China's culture and history(especially of the recent 2 centuries), you will never understand.
As an authentic Chinese, let me tell you: We know that one party government means uncontrolled power, but we concern more about the prosperity of the nation, and China is the fastest growing country in the world with the lead of the party you all criticize. We know that the cyber wall blocks us from the western world, but we concern more about not being controlled by another country, and China has built its own internet related infrastructure and developed domestic servers and companies while many other countries have to rely on large companies of the US.
There are over 1 billion people in China, even if 1% of them dont agree with what I said, that will make 10 million people. So you might find lots of Chinese complaining, but they always can choose to leave. It's okay. Dont forget the rest 99% would agree with what I told you. Think it's ridiculous to compromise individual rights and support the development of the nation? First thing, we live better lives. Second thing, we remember painfully the time when lives were so tough due to a weak and poor nation. We understand deeply that when you come from a weak country, you are nothing standing internationally. Still believe the western world wont treat you and your people differently? Do learn some history,.friends.
Stop being so arrogant and ignorant. Learn about China before you point finger at it. And start worrying about yourself. You are free to ignore my comment and even treat it like a joke. It's okay. I'm just explaining out of a good intention, not forcing you to accept anything.
Just saying but China isn't the fastest growing country in the world in population or GDP. Also, not to sound arrogant or anything but it just confuses me how they know what democracy is, know they are controlled by a one party system and yet say China is very democratic. Surely, if they are like you they should know that China isn't that democratic as they think but just not care.
Edit: Adding onto that youtube is banned in China and yet you are using it, of which is supporting a large western company.
@@MrDave1468 yes, I'm a youtube user. But I'm also glad that China has its own internet and platform provider, and I'm user of Chinese platforms too. So what's the problem? Dont be extremist.China wants to be great so that wont be controlled by and totally rely on other countries, but it doesnt mean other countries are not allowed to be great. As for democracy, when you speak for the theory based on the western context, China wont win in your game. I was trying to explain to you guys, not brainwashing you. When you believe without a shadow of doubt that China's current system is worse and less democratic than the western society, you are being ignorant and arrogant. Please learn China's history of recent 200 years, and you'll know what democracy that western colonization and the so-called democratic government brought to China. And maybe you'll understand why we think the demorcracy nowadays is better eventhough it has defects.
Edit: okay, I was not precise when saying China is the fastest growing country. So one of the fastest growing countries should make it right.
太对了哥，我支持你
Whether your opinion is correct or not, you are free to think so and your opinion has the right to be respected.
But there must be people in China who don't think like you. Their opinions deserve the same respect as yours. But the Chinese government oppresses them by force. Why is this?
China and the government is not the same thing.
People are not criticizing China, the country, or Chinese people, or their history, or their culture.
They are criticizing their government. In a free country, you are allowed to criticize the government.
I agree with your comment about being in China, I was there for three weeks on holidays, of course it is diffrent that the west and took some getting used to but I was never scared nor did I see sacred citizens. If anyone would want to go to China I recommend going there with an open mind and without prejudices :))
Flo ㅇㅈㅇ I went there too and it wasn’t different from California.
My ancestors visited Nanking and left without Naking ahaahahaha
Now some Western countries regard democracy as a religion.
It is like Catholicism and Islam. They all think that they represent God. Others are infidels. It is ridiculous that the democratic model that does not conform to the West is undemocratic.
Some countries in the West promote daily respect for the diversity of the world, but they are obliterating the diversity of the world.
Flo ㅇㅈㅇ Thank you. You are the type of westerner I can deal with.
Thank you
Seems young Chinese are more politically aware than the American counterparts... I watched some of those US street interviews....and i went "Oh my goodness"....lol
vidsurf88 It's Edited
vidsurf88 dude，this is beijing.
most of Chinese students talk about politics privately
The media in America is politically biased and aims at being controversial. People in 'flyover country' are always portrayed as ignorant and unsophisticated. Look to the internet for more factual information about young Americans. The Constitution and Bill of Rights protect American youth in a way that they are not thinking much about roles and restrictions and the like.
@@DHKo-mk7up I am Chinese and my elder brother lives in the US, right now he is studying for his Phd in Yale. we sometimes talk about the difference between the two countries media. We both think that the US media is more biased and less informed. the ccp control people's access to youtube and some other social media, but it doesn't affect the fact that media in China is more matured, insightful and balanced. there are political propaganda like the party's media, but most Chinese knows what is truth and what is propoganda.
If this video was flipped and you asked Americans what Communism meant to them, they would completely flip out
I mean...Communism is known for genocide.
@@estonalexander704 communism isnt the cause of genocide, the people are the cause of genocide.
@@boyar1978 are you crazy? So you support ban of public property? Authoritarian govt? ...
Do you even realise that in communism you can't inherit homes ... Hell.. you can't even open a pastry shop if you want to
@@swapnilrawat9691 what do i care what happens to my property after i die.
@@swapnilrawat9691 Actually in China I can open a pastry shop and it would be easier to do than in the USA.
Lol those who are bragging about democracy.. I'm from one of the most liberal democracy, but also the most poor.. 😁 They presume people are k1lled under dictatorship only..😁 What about poor democratic countries that are in absolute mess.. There is always murders & arson before and after elections. Roads are too bad, there are often accidents of vehicles; gang, k1lling and hood culture is there; kleptocracy is soaring; govt gives sh*te about poor people, hundred of thousands of people die due to hunger, poverty, pollution, gang violence, bad roads, corruption, state sponsored hooliganism, lawlessness, etc in poor democratic countries. Democracy only looks shiny and functioning in developed world. Even if it functions there I doubt it, seeing currently western countries too in chaos.
What country are you from?
Indeed. Not only mainland China, but Taiwan, South Korea, were among the poorest countries in the world in the 1970s, and all saw dramatic development in the recent 5 decades under a autocracy (Taiwan and S.Korea has become relatively democratic in the recent 3 decades).
Democracy itself does not help a country become richer and more stable. An effective government is what genuinely needed by those under-developed countries.
What the girl said in the beginning of the very is very interesting: democracy means letting everyone be in power. That one can interpret it that way. That is very interesting. I have never thought of it that way. Another interesting point is of the man saying that when a country is ran by many different governments that it makes running the country less efficient. And that is another valid point. Look at the current political climate in the US. The Iran nuclear treaty was made invalid because a new president came in and didn't like it. We all know the negative consequences of this. Iran and the US have stop a diplomatic ties and Iran is back again trying to do uranium. That is only one example of the inefficiency more than one political systems running the country. Of course I know for a fact thar the Chine government has oppressive policies. That is a fact. But I don't like to be a hypocrite either. I am aware that the US has bad policies also. And I am aware that not everything in regards to the Chinese government policies are bad. Which leads to many Chinese citizens supporting their government. Despite of the issues that China has, but they don't want to have the US telling them how and when to oppose their government. The US wouldn't like that if it were the either way around. What is a fact is that the US had directly and indirectly interfered in other country's affairs. Even elections.
That's very objective. I still want and Add a few of my arrogant opinions.
China is a pride nation with A long history, which includes great achievements and abundant of experience. Most Chinese tends to understand the western concept based on traditional concepts, which means what democracy means to Chinese is no exactly the same as the western. Chinese tends leave the professional jobs ,including politics ,to the professors. The professors should be responsible for the job as well as to anyone who gives him the power. So not everyone want to make difference to the formation of the politics. Thus Chinese focus more on their personel freedom instead of governors' policies.
too much democracy has always been a stumbling block to progress.
For example, my country Philippines. Past generations were deceived by the communists to overthrow the President. after he was overthrown, they elected a housewife as a President and "restored" democracy. Since then, the people have become less disciplined, the government officials has many mentalities which deprived the country to develop, many citizens are not obeying the law, student in universities were recruited freely by leftist organizations because you know "democracy to choose", too many organizations demanding for their rights on everything, media openly support anti-government plots and terrorists, political enemies openly support destabilization plots etc. Democracy created many many problems in the Philippines. This fake democracy has given corrupt politicians to bribe, corrupt people's money, kill their enemies, cheat election, silence anyone who will go against their families etc etc. The current president with "foul mouth" and "authoritarian-style" leadership was the result of people's frustrations to the Liberal government's too much democracy that hindered development. China's government is fine because their country is united through the government, there's no drama. they take an action immediately.
@@randomly_random_0 Well said!
Your point is very interesting. The Chinese government has shortcomings and has done a lot of good. Too much concentration of power leads to a lot of corruption in the government . But In my thirty years of life, life has been getting better. Things are always going to get better.
@@randomly_random_0 Aquino didn't get elected, she lost the election. She was made the president because it was handgiven to her by the americans.
I lived 2 years in China. If you ask me... they don't have this kind of problems liberals vs conservatives or lefties vs righties or whatever. Their society is not divided for the sake of clientelism. Some things are certain and not just appearences and there is no such fragmentation of small sectarian groups. Everybody agrees on the basics, it's not so hard.
And also, if you have some advice that might be positive for business or administrative organs, they listen carefully and consider. I think they are pretty democratic in that sense, more than us in Europe.
rockerdrake man, if you understand Chinese, you will find out their people are so naive. They can’t receive tons of news from local even news that is about their governments policies. Did you follow their news recently? About how their government encourages people to invest and that is a big mistake. It is not only let the market losing balance but also let the people distrust the government if their money just disappear in any ways. And my friends from China didn’t know the news! They even said if it wasn’t happened to their region then it must a fake news. That is interesting you know. How convenient their government working in several way to do money laundering. That is the problem why their TI is so low. You should be glad if something happens to your own benefits that your country handling. You can make sure what r they doing anytime. You don’t need to make any conspiracy. The only thing you need to do is search the data’s from the government. That is called democracy.
@ⵜⴰⵏⵉⵔⵉ Taniri every liberal democracy in the world faces the same problems with partisanship. Public opinion is disputed, divided and confronted to the point of mutual hate. Every party controls its own media and often lies and slanders the rest. When the opposition takes the government in a new term they only undo the previous government's policies and make shallow politics that fit their segment's convenience instead of worrying about the well-being of the country as a whole. It's pretty much like that in all of Europe and America. China on the other hand might have many kids of problems but it doesn't have the social conflicts that derive from such division of the society.
@hướng dẫn chơi team starcraft 2 1. I was there for studying, I didn't take advantage of the country as you seem to interpret.
2. I know right, It's definitely not heaven and I'm not claiming it is, as I've stated before there are many kinds of problems...there is economic classism, money-sickness, social competition - lack of a proper sense of shame and a certain degree of racism in other non-explicit forms. Plus it's very hard for foreigners to establish themselves there in the long run, laws are restrictive and changes abrupt
3. But people in China, I guess in Vietnam too, even in the worst of hardships they are still able to see the good side of the situation and the good in others and always have a praise even for those they don't agree or have a good relationship with. They can reach an agreement so easily and with far less arguing and Goddamn... avoiding the exaltation of sex, violence, drugs, crime in movies and other entertainment media has had an enormously positive impact on the society. If you've never lived in the West you can't imagine to what extent.
Of course reality is multi-faceted but in many ways power struggles seeking to involve the people tend to divide and confuse them. And in the end, one outcome or another doesn't really make a big change.
@hướng dẫn chơi team starcraft 2 you know china？
@hướng dẫn chơi team starcraft 2 and？Did I say China is better？
As a Westerner who used to believe in the China is so scary and authoritarian narrative, and after having lived in China for some time, I now can say.
我真TM的爱这个国家。
Homero Fierro hhhhh 谢谢你
I'm sure the people there are great. However, I wouldn't want to be caught speaking out against their government.
@@lelechim If you use Chinese social media, you can see there are people speaking against our government and they are still fine.
u can speak against the government, but not defame it by making up lies.
@@lelechim
No one catches you. China is not a police country at all，
No one is afraid of the government.If you fiercely oppose the government on social media, your posts will be deleted，thats all.
Only actual actions against the government will be caught, but this is the same in any country
Haha..they don't even know meaning of democracy 😂😂😂...
u don't know either btw
neither do they care. Most people like enjoying life, not judging others constantly
@@paniniman6524 if you're being hurt and we're watching, its probably because we're concerned and not because we're judging.
Tell me how important is CCP for you?
@@Ducktility I was stating a fact. Concerned can be just another word for judging. You proved my statement wonderfully.
@@paniniman6524 Not really, that's not how logic works. On the contrary, you proved my point. You're not willing to think outside of your boundaries. Out of fear or loyalty?
I've been reading comments for this video. Lol at people's perception of China is like they were still in the 1980's.
Just go to China is you want to understand them better. You'll get both pros and cons of their society, but it will definitely be very different than what the western media tells you.
Sometimes it takes courage to visit a specific country you're skeptical or curious about. I went to Switzerland, and it wasn't as rosy as what the media portrayed. I went to Australia and there were good and bad things I saw that was not mentioned in the media. I went to USA where I see discrimination exist, yet is not chaotic. China isn't even half as bad as you think. Save some money and go there. There are a lot of expats and it's growing!
do they see the people in the video?? thats how most Chinese young people look alike. do they look like they are in the 80s and under poverty to them??? I love that girl's short hair btw
Roses Blue bro, you misunderstood him or her.
well, you have to know that some people just don't care, because china bad or good does not bother them at all. they don't want to save any budget for a truth.
Rick R yes i know. Today i fly back to China, a foreigner ask me a question seriously, can i take picture or video in China? I don't know why he have such idea. I told him, you should change your Samsung to HUAWEI for better image.
Westerns aren't really flexible in their opinions, just listen to their so called debates.
In conclusion, the younger Chinese generation has more confidence about their diplomacy and society. Nobody would know China more than Chinese themselves. Somebody always wants to enforce their own democrat way on China. I have to say just give up and get out of their way.
Yes Chinese troll
Bonney Dahlquist look at you pathetic boy,do you feel shameful for your ignorance？
@Erwin Lii China uncensored is one of the most disgusting channels from my stand
@@bonneydahlquist1857 yes, so you are the perfect production of “democracy ”and “free free thinking ”---- all you can do is ignore others well-built comments and speak out your stereotypes
@@zhao9828 hello 30 cent army
What really struck me about this video is how well-spoken every interviewee was. Every person made very nuanced statements that demonstrate freedom from any sort of "thought control." They know what democracy is and they know what freedom is. They also know the difficult balance that every government faces between getting things done and upsetting too many people in the process. They pause just long enough to show you that they are putting thought into the discussion, while not pausing long enough to indicate that they were conflicted.
China is a country that worships its teachers, elders, and people who have success and high levels of education. They do not worship sports stars like gods. This is the biggest takeaway that I received from both China and Japan, they are just much more educated that we in Canada and America are in general.
@@VaioletteWestover rather than saying "more educated in general" I think it's more like China/Japan teaches things that extends outside of pure academics like manners that makes the average people look smarter.
It's interesting that that's how you interpreted it. I interpreted it as, these people have been brought up to know exactly what to say and how to say it. They've been taught this way. I wouldn't say it's true consideration of the question.
@@totallyfake2852 I've been to China various times for business. Respectfully, I think you need to look back at yourself at this moment and understand that you've been thoroughly brainwashed.
I've also been to North Korea. What you just said is LITERALLY identical to what North Koreans say about us in the West. Do you understand what is happening here and to you?
Travel is the best education and I think everyone in America and Canada needs to do much more of it.
@@totallyfake2852 They grew up in a different environment and also, they were supposedly randomly chosen. You don't "forcibly brainwash" people into speaking this eloquently, or else Beijing must have a magic pill going around in their schools. No, they don't view things like Americans do.......nor should we ever expect them to. At least that's what I got out of the video.
So brainwashed people 😂
3:04 the woman is literally chasing her dog lol
Poor dog, she must've eaten him
what
Poor dog must have got eaten
@@EzioAuditore-vr1oy so true
true freedom
Keep scrolling and scrolling and nobody talked about the cute doggie at 3:03.
Keep scrolling and scrolling and I found your comment.
It is about to be eaten
& a lady running after her
Too busy reading subs!
@@lingao1958 good one
democracy is a tool，not a purpose，any tool that leads to a better life of majority of ordinary people，we will support it，and if not we may try other tools
I agree with you... It's a tool for betterment of people.. system can be changed according to the time...
Maybe I'm just very western culturally, but I'd rather be free and live a hard life than be happy while sacrificing liberties. To me happiness
@@santaanna700 I guess you really do not know what a hard life is, while most Chinese experienced it and still remember it. for most ordinary Chinese, they have almost the same freedom as Westerners, they travel around the world, about 100million tourists per year, they do business, entertainment, sports, complain. that's enough freedom to ordinary people. if you want to play politics, you can just join the party, and play it inside the system, that's how it works.
@@pocayan3061 That hard life that Chinese people remember is from a time when China was least free though. It was in the 80s when Deng Xiaoping liberalized the economy when the standard of living drastically improved.
Antonio López de Santa Anna Your response is what I expected when someone said democracy is a tool. As a Chinese, I agree it is wrong. Democracy is not a tool, but the western political system is a tool for democracy. There are other ways to pursue democracy. When a Chinese say democracy is a tool, he means western political system, not democracy. It’s not his or her fault, because the western media confuse the two concepts all the time.
Textbooks in Middle and High School in China will teach students how to overthrow the government. The content is very detailed. No second country in the world dares to do so.
what? do you have anything to further the topic? i'm very interested
@@gior987 I am not actually exactly sure what Green King is referring to, but China is a country that is built on multiple dynasties that often come from rebellions. And there is a lot of history and politics covered in Chinese middle and high school that is compulsory. The history part focuses on ancient china and modern history. I think it's because the Communist party rose out of a people's rebellion of sorts, and rebellion is just VERY Common in history (basically half the time dynasties fell to rebellions, the other half to invasions), that a lot of ground relating to overthrowing governments is covered? (I also find it interesting because China considers itself to be one continuous nation and indeed, the people are still the same people, and cultural buildings and influences from a thousand years ago is still prominent and kept in well conditions. The children also study a lot of ancient text and history in primary school that does deal with a lot of subjects related to war, loss, etc. There is never a sense of a new country, it's the same country with many different modes of government.)
Also on the political aspect, there is a lot of pro-gov propaganda but it also details how the government built China and goes into a detailed analysis of how they believe China should be run and how it will be in the future (I remember the first chapter? I think covered a lot about the construction and economy of modern China and its cities and economic zones.
@@gior987所谓：“王侯将相，宁有种乎”，以及“民可载舟亦可覆舟”，以及“君视民如草芥,民视君如寇仇 民不知有国,国不知有民”
I actually do agree with the person that said the multiple party system do make decisions making more short term where in China that can make them very long term
Brexit is short term anyway?
WrongTurn Wenn u know how the Chinese Leader are chosen, u would worry about this.
Yes, let’s see what trump has done
@Currently procrastinating While in the real world, the one-party leadership holds the govt responsible because it has no one else to blame on.
Everyone says this, including China haters! I think we are all seeing the benefits of this, increasingly! At some point it will be impossible to ignore, or to beat.
所谓的墙外的世界 真的都是真实的民主的么 其实视频里被采访的人的观点都挺好的 每个国家都有自己的国情 只要是适合的就是好的 “墙外”的一帮无脑黑的人和媒体 所谓的发声和报道 真的是秉持着民主的旗帜么 还是就是借着所谓民主自由的借口 来达到自己发泄甚至更下流的目的呢 (不好意思 就是特意用中文简体回复的 中国不完美很多都有问题 但也在慢慢成长
我在国外，发现，墙很有必要- -，墙筛除了很多垃圾信息。
i really hope that AsianBoss will continue as a media and information platform. you are truly doing something that is beneficial to people around the world as far offering perspectives in Asian countries that ordinarily would go unheard. I am an american and i really appreciate every person who participates in these street interviews giving their honest thoughts on the questions asked.
indians have freedom,they have the freedom of pooing anywhere they wish to
though i do feel like this channel is putting people in a hard place. Political opinions in general is a sensitive topic in China and we all know what happens when u criticize the government
@@jerrysun0667 You just can't organize protests or anything that destabilizes social order. If you comment with your friends about recent events the police are not going to break your door down. Seriously, have you seen all the people yelling on Weibo about literally everything? There's a reason we call it "the garbage dump of the internet." It's no less chaotic than Twitter is.
Jai sri ram
@@jerrysun0667 In fact, this is just your guess based on the lies of the Western media. Modern China is not what you said. These interviewees are not fools. They know how to protect themselves. They dare to say that because they will not be threatened.
Thank you for getting people's opinion and expressing to the world is a good way of connecting us all! I don't think everyone knows, but they would be shocked if they'd knew we are all connected...and related! There was a time not too long ago there were only a few of us and we stay together. But as our families grew bigger, we had to spread out for survival... Now we've lived on every continent of the world! And we've forgot that there was a time not too long ago, there were only a few of US! If people knew that everybody in the world is related... The world would be a lot kinder place to live, we are all different branches of the same tree! And in the end, all that really matters, is KINDNESS!!!
"In MY opinion,
Not having Democracy is the TRUE democracy..."
What...
They don't even know what is democracy and the June 4th movement.
NO, most of people know what is the June 4th movement,
@@torreswong3555 Almost everyone know it, so what are you talking about???
You don't have you be in the West to have democracy!!!
@@jakelaw9768 Very true.
You do, however, need to be allowed to participate in politics in any shape or form, regardless of your political views, before you can call a country "democratic".
I think at 3:00 someone lost their dog....thats what I think hahahah
Frederic Adams some ppl just not used to leash their pet, to give their pet 'Freedom'
I dont leash my dog actually haha he doesn't even own a leash. He's a good boy. And lol.....meal....haha
Since the chinese have very openminded opinions on "demorcracy" topic ,you westerner still fcous on these 'Dog meat"stereotypes and joking,i suppose the real one had been brainwashed are ur westerners.
running from the kitchen
@@FibonacciSnow Sid here from CIA. We would love to recruit you as an investigative agent.
我是中國人，這些受訪者的觀點能代表我們的大部分中國人對於民主的想法。是的，我們知道西方民主很好，這種制度賦予了更多個人權利，人的思想不被約束，一切都很自由。但我們也看到了其後果，每個人（政黨）都只想著自己的利益，不懂得合作，所以只會陷入無止境的內耗，膨脹的個人慾望產生糟糕的治安環境。在這一點，中國人更懂得平衡，是的，我們願意犧牲自己一部分權力，來獲取整個族群的進步，因為我們相信強大而穩定的社會最終會回饋到個人，其實這也就是我為人人，人人為我。事實上，中國這40年的發展也驗證了這一道理，比如將發達地區的收入投資到西部的基礎建設，當然西方媒體會說這是加強對西藏新疆的控制， 但稍微用邏輯思考，就能知道這是帶有偏見的報導，在相信這些報導之前應該自己去看去思考，我十年前去過西藏，我看到了很多，但絕對不存在對於人種與宗教的壓迫，我看到的是漢人更擅長賺錢，這是利益分配的問題，説起限制宗教，我們限制的是邪教，耶穌教在華東地區就有幾百萬教徒，我在上海工作時遇到過幾位耶穌教徒的同事，我向他們詢問過相關的信息。至於新疆的百萬人集中營，這甚至不是偏見的報導，而是不存在的事情。還有香港和台灣，我在香港生活了二十年，除了媒體一直在渲染ccp的壓迫之外，實際並沒有發現哪裡被壓迫了，正如中國人很愛說的一句話，不要聽他說什麼，去看他做了什麼。假設壓迫真的存在，也是香港台灣壓迫大陸，港台在對中國的經濟貿易中獲得了大量的好處，港台人生活優越，而為此付出的確是大陸人，香港不用納稅給大陸，獲得最高水準的物資供給與貿易優惠，為了扶持台灣的果農，做出犧牲的是大陸的果農，這都是為了向港台釋出善意的冰山一角，結果成為了西方媒體口中的壓迫。中國人知道ccp做了什麼錯誤的選擇，做了什麼正確的選擇，我對因為那些因為錯誤的選擇受到影響的人的感到遺憾，但ccp是一個不斷改善的政黨，中國人的素質也在提升，特別是90後，00後年輕的一代，海外的華人要對我們的民族有信心。
I agree
absolutely agree
搞錯先後了，港台商人是怎麼把解放後的中國從農民經濟扶植起來的，對自己國家的經濟發展了解一下吧，連現在台港商人在中國經濟還是佔有很大的部分
You do realize that even a one-party leads to factions infighting until you get a dictator in charge purging all of his political opponents, pushes for more red books (jinping thoughts) and establish a cult of personality (by calling him "uncle"). In other words, having only one party produces sever consequences and abuse of power
@@gohanlopez5330 CCP's top level is the committee system, where one's leadership qualifications are generated by systematic long-term thinking, and the CCP's leadership system was regulated after the 1990s. The so-called failure of democracy in China arises more from the bottom of the system and the failure of the people's representation system, but it is not a problem of the system, but actually the low level of political participation of Chinese people, which is culturally determined, just like the culture determined that the Philippines and the US are the same system but the Philippines looks like it can never become the US.
Very educated and well-informed people! :)
Most collage students in the richest part of a nation are
@@BirdTurdMemes No, chinese school is free before university, and the cost of university is very cheap, the government pay most of them. in China, basic education is not relevant about rich or poor. education is still a path to change your life in china, not like most advanced country.
@@spartashot
I never said that collage/university is expensive or cheap I just pointed out that if you are university student in an extremely rich city you will be well educated no matter what
very very selected best ones?
Big John yes and no, it’s open to choose for Chinese student wherever you want to go to university, as long as u get the enough scores.
These interviews were enjoyable to me. I enjoyed them because they displayed what I thought years ago about Chinese life. Americans fear the status of Chinese parallels witH US [lol].
I'm Hungarian, I learned Mandarin for a few years and got some awesome Chinese friends; and I was in China for 2 weeks in 2017. In Tangshan and Beijing. My impressions about them is absolutely positive, everyone we met (I mean with my classmates) were incredibly kind and helpful, they really took care of us all the time. And not just our guides, but the strangers on the street, the staff in the shops and restaurants, and even the policemen(!) who we got to interact with were nice. We didn't talk about political stuff directly, but my impression is that average Chinese people (of course I can only form opinion based on those who I met) have a positive opinion about thier government. And as long as the people feel good about their leaders, we foreigners don't really have the right to tell them what to do, or what is good and what isn't. And also we shouldn't forget that in order to control a country with this size and population, you have to have a bit more strict leadership than for example in European countries.
For those who would like to visit China: go ahead, don't be afraid! We never felt ourselves in danger, quite the opposite. We felt we were safe all the time; we were looked after, but in a positive way. (Just one note: average Chinese people don't really speak English, so you must learn at least a bit of Mandarin or carry some kind of translating device with you.) :)
its not the people who are bad, but the government
@@rollroll7567 propaganda and brainwashing exists, did you go to elementary school?
only Chinese people can tell you if their government is good or bad, they are not fools!
@@verlax8956 If you really believe it, that means you are also brainwashed by your gov hahaha
@@verlax8956 that's BS n idiot that someone has never been to China or even speak Chinese but claim that they know China better than the Chinese. If you believe that 1.4B people are brainwashed, then you'd better retrieve your brain from the drain first.
You should ask them which of their leaders did they vote for and how did Xi get elected President for life.
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Lol North Korea is called Democratic People's Republic of Korea..... And now you know what I mean 😜😜😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
yeah,indians ain't created equal by their god,but they are democratic
@@notailog562 wdym
Because they don't know basic definitions of these words
You see first corrupted and most hated cast system in your county.
@@tamangwangthokra7651 Things are changing. At least, we've democracy so that people can raise there voice against the bad things.
6.24 "FREEDOM TO ME IS LIVING A HAPPY LIFE" ---- i agree with you!
I truly admire that lovely lady~
And if it comes at the cost of other's happiness?
@@JJay-sb8cu Now u can have two actually and before this two child policy,that has already been used for A FEW YEARS,chinese people from the rural area are alr allowed to have two children, it's just that now the government opened it up to ALL Chinese people, regardless where they live.
People complain that China has too many people so we implemented one child policy to reduce population , and now you people use this to attack us for having no freedom? So what do you want? A nuclear bomb that kills everyone so that we can now have less people and still be 'free '?
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@@JJay-sb8cu hihi we planted the SAME AMOUNT of forest that Brazil has lost for the past 60 years you call that pollution? We changed desert to forest how abt that?
@@JJay-sb8cu bruh you are so brain washed OMG like my cousins from rural area all have 2 children and none of them feel ashamed, that girl feel ashamed probably because HER REGION does not allow people the have two children when her brother is born , that's the problem of her parent DURING THAT TIME, and also why do you assume that China has to be the same as the rest of the world? You don't understand China at all like if you read on our history you will understand a lot of things. And btw it's so funny to see that the rest of the world just pointing fingers at China when they know absolutely nothing about China, what does that reflect abt you people?
Censorship is a good thing 😳! Well, u don’t miss something you never had.
These views are nice and thought provoking we're only taught certain things about other countries and even our own. Democracy on paper is a whole lot different than the democracy we see in America. We've always been taught that China is so restrictive and has no freedoms, and honestly they don't show much about the life there in China. I think that's why its such a culture shock when some of us go to visit. I hope we can right all the wrongs we have in our countries. God Bless
The thing is democracy can be interpreted in different ways, on paper democracy means that the population rules. The inventors of democracy in ancient Athens thought that the power should be distributed randomly ( lottocracy). Whilst the USA took the roman approach of democracy (think of the 2 major parties in USA).
@@bleromafia Yeah but democracy has its limits. That's how you end up having to choose between Biden and Trump. It's not a choice at all.
Y'all are funny. They have 0 rights and get welded in there homes if they had covid to die. Ask them who they voted for lol
Maybe you will not agree with me, but it is important to know that the opinion of the people, especially the political opinion, is formed on the basis of the information in the media and the problem in China is that all media belong to the government or the state, Likewise, in China you cannot find any articles critical of the government in the newspaper. As a result, people only know the positives of their politics and their opinion emerged from propaganda. Let us also not forget the oppressed Uyghurs, or the oppression of people with different backgrounds in Hong Kong ...
lol they can't even criticise their political party & can't even vote for different party.. i have travelled too in china.. got friends over there.. most of them don't like to talk about ccp... they talk about other stuffs but not about ccp.. & after galwan clash our gov banned we chat..
so now i got cut off from them..
people could be brainwashed into anything.. it is similar in india too.. lately loyalists of our political party thinks presenting facts of india drawbacks in news is anti national....
This is the meaning of democracy, feel free like what the citizens said. But not like as "because of your freedom, other people have to suffer."
Precisely.. if democracy has to be like what happening in Taiwan and Hong Kong, china won't have such great success. Happily living.. that is freedom
Democracy in Hong Kong is fake democracy. They are dictatorial. They destroyed those who disagreed with them.
NO
Democracy is where people own power.
That is why Singapore is not democratic but India is.
@@pinklove1596 Why is Singapore not democratic? Singaporeans have powers to elect their leaders.
@@pinklove1596 Western style of "democracy" is not even true. It can not help ppl to improve their life quality at all. In India ppl are still starving and live under poor life quailty, yet in Singapore no.
I think most Chinese people would say to the West "Leave us alone and mind your own democracy business."
Exactly! We must leave each other be. But, unlike its people CCP sure loves to horass other countries sich as mongol, tibet,taiwan and so on. Geez ive kost count
@@YSH669 every Chinese will tell you that Tibet and Taiwan are not countries, they are part of China. As for mongolia, it's a independent country, but inner mongolia is part of China either.
Making sure of your own government's standpoint about that before you harass us like an idiot.
@@五十年 Ok, lets put aside mongol for a moment. But not acknowledging Tibet and especially Taiwan as countries?? Now thats what I call brainwash and horrassment.
Free Tibet, Taiwan no.1 your ass and
please just leave countries and people that does "not" want to be part of China(I mean CCP to be exact)
@@YSH669 About the issue of Taiwan and tibet, I have more respect for what your government says than for an idiot's personal opinion!
Btw, which country do you come from?
@@五十年 Claiming to respect Taiwan and Tibet while not accepting them as country(Taiwan) and supressing their identiy by force(Tibet). It seems comedy is part of everyday life in CCP.
China is a country with the largest population in the world. Each region has it's own unique way of living. Sure the government is restricting some information from the citizens, but what matters at the end of the day, is they are happy with it.
Those glasses look amazing. Also helps that she's beautiful.
"Freedom for me is living a happy life and being able to eat my favorite snack". Actually a very good point in my opinion, small things that many of us take for granted.
Freedom to travel. Freedom to consume. Freedom to associate with literally anybody in public. These are all very basic freedoms that some countries, including US allies, do not allow, yet China does.
Happiness should not be confused with freedom.
@@augustolobo2280 Everybody has a different definition of "freedom." Holding political elections is just one ingredient, offering varying amounts of satisfaction in each country that it is applied.
@@canto_v12 There is the main problem. No, freedom is one single thing and is not relative. There's not my freedom, your freedom, there's only freedom.
@@augustolobo2280 OK, you are talking about absolute freedom. No country offers that.
i must admit when i was in beijing i was positively surprised to realize how safe i actually felt from criminal activity and such,, people were super nice and very welcoming. a lady offered me free tea and invited me inside to meet her family and see her house, a heartwarming moment i will never forget. people in shops were smiling and street vendors were super talkative and it really gave the city access to my heart. plus yES the food is amazing but most likely different from ur local chinese restaurant/takeaway 1. bc it has been somewhat western-fied to match ur tastebuds and 2. bc the chinese food in ur area is usually based off of the southern guangdong/hong kong cuisine. lmao this just got so off topic, but oh well i guess what my message was that,, don’t be scared of traveling to china. especially the first tier cities like beijing, shanghai, guangzhou or shenzhen etc. are comparable to cities like western hotspots new york and london in terms of conditions and to some extent modern architecture and skyscrapers (where i would actually prefer chinas skylines over a lot of other skylines). plus you have the amazing, super fascinating and breathtaking historical sites. here i would recommend the cities of beijing, xi’an and hangzhou, which are absolutely a must if you wanna see ancient buildings and oriental architecture. what i’m tryna say is, don’t hesitate if you are planning a trip to china. i can assure you that it will be unforgettable.
sorry this comment highlights a lot of different topics lmao, but yea, when this pandemic is over you’ll know my travel recommendations ;)
lol u might have almost got tea shop scammed
please google "beijing tea shop scam"
@@dont_trust_any1_even_ur_waifu Please come to China.Use your own eyes and brain to see the fact.
梅壮志 i have friends that have been victims of this in china.
@@dont_trust_any1_even_ur_waifu But I think the setting of camara provides more safe environment.It's not used to spy.We use it to avoid some thefts.
7:14 我觉得应该在这次上海封控之后重新在上海做一遍街访，我估计大众的看法会大有改变，起码从几率上来说
When I visited Northern China, I generally felt very safe (outside of the severe air/water pollution), particularly in the case of attending large performing arts events at stadiums. Since I was a law-abiding visitor, I saw the lines of police officers and firefighters as keeping the event orderly and well-staffed in case of an accident or random violent attack.
In terms of the media, Mainland China's censorship is pretty blatant. However, the West's mass media is also stiff on its censorship if a news topic threatens its biggest financial backers. In this case, Western mass media just does a more tactful job of covering up events than its counterparts in Mainland China. Take for instance the release of the Panama Papers and the U.S.'s pedophilia scandal involving its ring-leader Epstein dying in an apparent "suicide." Relative to their potential impact, both stories were swiftly glossed over by either something far more sensational but more trivial matters.
Mickey Lee you got the point. the msm in the west is just a source of fake news in many occasions.
There is no censorship of media in the west. Freedom of the press is written into the USA's constitution. Whether big media corporations choose to cover events or not is irrelevant, that is not the same thing as censorship. Censorship is when the government forbids a media outlet from covering an event. Stop making excuses for the Chinese government.
@@roganmorrow The lack of nuance in distinguishing between what is considered government and private is a little naive. When you pay to restrict the ability of people to do so (FCC, courts, etc), that gives the option of using the "Freedom of the press is written into the USA's constitution" as a way to control opposition without the fear of being discovered. Different places are being covered up, but it's still the same goal.
@@berekexer56 You cannot pay to censor the media in the USA. The only way you could get the courts to "censor" the media is if they broke a law, such as committing slander.
Stop trying to compare Chinese censorship to the west, it's absurd. They aren't even remotely similar.
@@roganmorrow Why all politician in US is allowed to spend huge ad dollar to attack opposition, even president Trump call it Fake News. So fake news that cause market fluctuations is good while censoring out lie is evil? it's so confusing. Pls educate me.
I am born and raised in China in early 90s and spent my last 10 years in Australia.
I did have fairly well access to HK media and was huge democracy supporter.
I have now lost all faith in democracy and realizing that the reason i was in favor of democracy was only because of their living standard was better than chinese mainlander back then.
Same.
vince3214 Same here
Living in a crowded house won't feel happy
European and American politics can only be called Western democracy, and they are not qualified to represent democracy. China's democratic approach gives priority to ensuring the interests of most people, and then tries to satisfy the interests of a small number of people. Western democracy, which is boasted by the European and American media, does not guarantee the interests of most people, nor guarantees the interests of a small number of people, only guarantee the interests of the rich people :> and ,most westerner was brainwashed to believe they are better than Chinese.
And what are your chances of being one of the 0.001% of mainland Chinese who benefit from the newfound wealth. You make it sound like some new utopia has developed for 1.3 billion, when you know that's simply not true.
In my opinion, since I’ve lived in both aus and China, we need to find a happy medium between the western democracy and Chinese democracy. There are pros and cons in both systems, I agree with all the interviews regarding the pros, but I would like to see a more opened China, and I think the government should have more confident and faith in its people. For example, everyone knows about the 广电总局, they have a lot of silly rules about certain contents in movies and tv shows. I get that you should have certain regulations, however, why can’t we have ghost stories or time travel to the past, and etc. I know some people are silly enough to believe those things, but most of us don’t. I get very frustrated when I see good stories been changed due to those regulations. It also damages people’s creativity. I really wish they could make the real Guardian tv drama, which incorporated a lot of Chinese mythology, not some stupid alien and setting lol anyway that was my perspective from small daily observation.
Totally agree that the censorship should be lifted a bit, especially movies and novels are soft powers which china is lagging behind. I too think the gov should be more confident in its legitimacy. I think the gov is too scarred to swing away from a censorship path that has been working, for them it's an unnecessary risk to take. Man Chinese movies back in 80s and 90s were good.
creativity is good but the confusion is not. not all chinese is as smart as you
Agree.
@@gloriayuelinjiang7416 审查制度目前的问题是没有一个标准，所以出现一刀切管理。不过我不认同拍不出好电影是审查制度的原因，在文艺片方便其实一直不缺优秀电影，不过大多数肥皂剧水平很差毫无营养和内涵，关键现在制作方已经没有以前的耐心，拿新版红楼梦举例，本来有专家免费去指导，可是导演演员们根本不愿听，最后搞的不伦不类。
Smart ppl use VPN. Others follow censorship. This is the goal of Wall.
As a Chinese citizen, I would like to say we are free enough. beg the US and western countries' governments, please don't give me too much freedom. We think your political system for us is a very bad game. We don't want to be your slave and colony. We have the right to decide our political system.
With all do respect, when was the last time you had a say in your political system?
@@timothywillis5035
Every day, every second
@@苏达-o7r idk dude, you can absolutely have your rights to think how you want. But as far as I know there's really not any way for you guys over there to influence policy in a substantial way. If I'm totally wrong lmk
@@timothywillis5035
you're going against the government by being on youtube
What is freedom? In the US, we have the political "freedom" to vote every four years for one of two political parties. But on economic matters, our two parties agree completely. Their policies overwhelmingly favor the rich, the powerful, the corporations, and the military. Their main disputes are over aesthetics and culture. Therefore, when voting never changes anything, political freedom is an illusion designed as a pressure relief mechanism to keep the true elites in power. It is an ingenious system of social control. As the saying goes, "If voting actually changed anything, they wouldn't let us do it"
有时候言论自由，能让人感受到的，只是人们非常坚持他们互相指责的权利，因为这是他们占据道德高地来解压的最好方式。东西是非常好的，但是使用的人只会用来发泄，并且造成的破坏越大越能证明自己。我个人支持言论自由，但希望赋予它更多的严肃属性。
This video just proves everything I always tell people, that Mainland China itself as a nation is "Not that simple" to understand by the outside world. Everywhere you go it's different and people live very differently lives, which plays into how they think. All the interviewed individual's made very good points.
except they can't differentiate between freedom and democracy.
@@organizedchaos4559 neither can half the population in the western societies.
@@johnnythao sure, people in some countries may have a difficult time with it but are you trying to group them into a single group now?
@@organizedchaos4559 If I did, I would’ve came with a different approach, but no I’m not.
@@organizedchaos4559 how's your freedom and democracy helping you? is your life getting better? is your country getting better? richer? safer?
个人愚见，中国需要的是更开放自由，完善法制和监督机制，而不是颜色革命改变政体🙂
Jiraiya 这是对的。而且达到这个目标，不需要改变整体和一党制。
中国的制度设计上是很先进的，只不过需要完善和落实，但是那些喊推翻再造的，类似89年那批学生，我只能说，他们只有毁灭的企图，却没有再造的能力。
同意而且这个步骤目前看起来好像正在进行。
Noel Lo 社会确实在变得更公平，但言论倒是管得越来越紧了，我猜是习近平正在为武统台湾营造一个安全的大后方
@@22kai80 倒不觉得严了，水木各版各种美分党南方分裂党攻击北京攻击习的帖子删都没人删。
The girl who said she was happily walking eating her own snack, now thats true happiness! China is definitely a place i would consider visiting because i grew up watching many action shows from China and it seems like a really chill place
Democracy is for the people, by the people, of the people 😛
Democracy is for the one percent, by the one percent, of the people
@@alexanderxie3909 ok then criticize xi in China
@@alexanderxie3909 one percent of people, you mean the capitalists? Empowerd by your law?
@@brucewayne1636 Bruh literally when was the last time a poor person ran for a high-ranking American position? You literally have to have money for anything in America
@@reviIo Abraham Lincoln
Democracy means you have freedom of speech as long you're not against USA
lolz please tell me you are a standup comedian...cause damn I would come to see more of this brilliant lines. lol you on the the USA is evil band wagon too eh? guess we shouldn't be sending aid money to your country either, guess we shouldn't come with food, supplies and medical care next time your arses get in a natural disaster right? unless the other i don't know...billion times in the past we have done so for you and every other horses asre third and first world countries. guess next time your neighbor decides to invade your dumbarses...we shouldn't send in our people to save you either right? oh and when your leader becomes a dictator trying to genocide your dumbarses...nope we shouldn't come in to save you right? no....we should come and continue to do all of that...even though we are such an evil and greed bunch of bastards? how about you ask us nicely and take back your insults....but ya know what...we will be the bigger country....you don't have to apologize...we will still do all that stuff and more...even though you all are ungrateful begging, whinny bitches....but you are still human beings...and we despite your insults are a generous and caring lot of people...btw ...your welcome.. *mic drops and walks away from your stupid ungrateful arse*
That's not what democracy means.
Democracy means USA said u r democracy then u r，if usa said u r not then u r not，and usa may do something to u：economic punishment、 send army……
Democracy isn't a US specific thing though.... It didn't even originate in the US.
and it also means to have the freedom to legally bribe the US government with hundreds of millions of dollars through lobbying
From the whole interview I don't see any pressure from the government, people generally speak their minds.
Because if they say the wrong thing, the government will punish them
@@firexgodx980那么如何惩罚我们呢？
@@firexgodx980 胡说八道，Nonsense
@@firexgodx980
Yes another typical anti China mentality. Always making up excuses as why Chinese in reality behave different from western propaganda portrayal, while providing no proof. Funny how you people claim to support democracy but NEVER listens to voices of Chinese people who support their government or country, always insisting theyre either all brainwashed or extorted by government to say something, there really is no chance for opposing view either isnt it? Do you think youre not brainwashed just because your media is more free than China? Stupid people are too easily manipulated to know they are brainwashed.
@@firexgodx980 u r so true, as long as you are talking politics in private conversation then it is totally fine, however, if you post something relate to ccp or even anti ccp and also lots of ppl actually see what you posted, and u gonna have big trouble.
if they are satisfied who the f**k are u to comment on their views
let them live . they are developed
The voices are loud and clear - “ we are happy with what we have & what we do & how we do them”
I wonder how many people said that before the civil war in china
@@thesillyseal284 Before the Chinese war people were too busy trying not to starve. "Government" and "civil rights" were not really on their minds. Most of China was starving until probably the 1980s.
@@thesillyseal284 I wonder how’s your country 100 or 1000 years ago
@@yilin1467 The USA didn't exsist 1000 years ago. The USA is a relatively new nation, that managed to achieve superpower status within the 273 years of it's existence. 100 years ago from 2020? Well from 1900-1920 we invented the airplane, radio, Electricity appliances, and many many more. Life in america wasn't perfect, but it was far better than being embroiled in a civil war for a couple decades.
@@thesillyseal284 As a French Jew I love America and how they saved the world from the Nazi. The world without America would have already turned into chaos. We were close to it given Second World War.
I am an American and was quite surprised when i worked in China for the first time. I always had the idea that people in China had no freedom and lived in fear of the government. My experience in China is that it is really no different from the USA except that there is more bureaucratic hurdles to deal with. Not once did i feel oppressed there. Sure I do not have access to youtube and facebook. I do have youku and weibo instead. People can have political conversations but will see trouble if they are trying to suggest a change of government. I have to admit that of all nations I have been to China is my favorite country. I have been to Canada, Brazil, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, Chile, Peru and if you count airports, Argentina, Mexico, Qatar, Bolivia, and Malaysia. China is one of the few countries where I feel proud of the military and feel a sense of nationalism when I am there. Whenever i see a Chinese military parade I want to join the Chinese Military and I think the Chinese flag is so much more meaningful to me than the US flag. I would never leave China if I did not have to.
I live in Paris. There are +700 "no go zone" in France (confirmed by Nolan Petersen NY Times 01/15/2015). I prefer to be afraid of gvt than to live in these areas where the police do not even dare to inetervine in a so called State of law.
Thanks for providing your insights. I agree that the sense of nationalism is very strong in China and that’s why every Chinese is very proud of his or her country.
Use VPN to access website that blocked there
@@auroratan2126 I am not Chinese yet I am proud of the Chinese country, flag and military. I am a US citizen who support my troops which happen to be Chinese. I even enjoy going to the PSB station to renew documents as nothing hotter than Chinese police women. They can arrest me any day.
let's ask Uyghurs what they think, because their voice deserves to be hear too
Answer the question: as long as the western countries don't memories the history of opium wars, still keep antiques they took from Yuanmingyuan in the museums - European countries and America have no credit in China to have any saying over China's political system. The debts haven't been paid. China was once destroyed by opiums. The whole country wants their justice - that, is China's democracy. Pay respects to this country: you can't forget the fire that was setted by 2000 European men in China's kings' greatest garden on China's land.
It'a not that it isn't remembered, no one cares lol.
They seem brainwashed. What about asking the same questions to Uyghurs?
Most uyghurs are apolitical or support the ccp
The Uyghurs Islamic extremists who went around stabbing and bombing people or the Uyghurs who are living normal lives?
"Having spent some time in Beijing, we, ourselves, didn't get the impression that average citizens were afraid of their government." However the political climate is, it is good that the Chinese are not afraid of their government. A nation's people should never be afraid of their government, instead stand-up and remain resilient.
People should never be afraid of their government. The government should be afraid of its people!
@@tessmaria6682 The people should however be wary, and the absence of awareness here may show how far indoctrination has gone.
we are not afraid of policeman nor solider, the presence of policeman or soldier means security, being saved, problem solving safety to ordinary chinese.
@@ilonailona28 Exactly! When soldiers appear in Wuhan, we felt so much relieved.
Why would we stand up against and be resilient of our government which delivers its promises of protecting our prosperity, democracy, equality, security and harmony? I've lived in the U.S., France, Germany, Austria, the Czech Republic and Italy, and I majored in Political Science in a top liberal arts college in the U.S. I understand why their people stand up against and are resilient of their governments because their governments don't deliver and their politicians don't care about their people. But those experience indeed reminds me of how lucky I am to be in a country where our government and leaders do.
If you want to know China better, you gotta come and see it for yourself.
@@JeffersonSheng Sounds like a plausible reason to flee to NA.
And return in a newspaper article for opening your Facebook.
Decent nice “joke” to show your ignorance
@tieuquy linthinh more like a brainwashing Western Media
do you know that channel was found by a Chinese cult named falun gong？
As someone who lives both in China and America, I'd say the censorship is the only part of life where I prefer America, otherwise life in China has been an all around more pleasant experience. However, I don't think many people realize that the censorship unintentionally protects other countries. Many Chinese people, even those lies patriotic, holds the idea of "Chinese people can criticize China but foreigners should keep their mouth shut if they don't have anything good to say". If Chinese internet users are "unleashed" onto the internet, there might be some major impact towards how social media will look.
just imagine some american videos have 1.4 billion chinese comments
I appreciate what these people have to say and there are all sorts of freedoms that Chinese citizens do have, but the most important part of this conversation has been left out. You are interviewing people that live in the eastern most part of the country where a majority Han Chinese live. The Han Chinese are a favorited race in China. The country of China is 2 countries married to 1 another. 1 of 800mil people who live in poverty and another of about 300mil who do live a decent life. I understand that China claims there are 1.4 billion people in their country but this number is most certainly inflated. You should be asking them questions about the Uyghur genocide! Now this video is 4 years old now so we can’t see what these people think about all these covid lockdowns. The same covid lockdowns that sees people literally get welded into their homes and burned alive because the authorities refused to let them out. What about when they bang on pots and pans from their high rise balconies screaming and pleading for food because they are staving? Or the forced Covid test every 48hrs that if you do not take you are arrested?! PS if you test positive you are arrested either way. There are protests by the people that get stamped out all the time. That doesn’t seem like a country with democracy or freedom to me. Remember that the people of china are not inherently evil at all, It is their government. There is no story more saddening then of the people that cannot think
There's a huge misunderstanding between chinese and the english translations when they say democracy because in Chinese it's (民主) which technically means (people's power) meaning all power to the people and socialism (社会) means (society's assembly) in chinese, it is very similar in ways for them, contradicting to many beliefs from the west they have social liberties, as long as they live their lives with no direct interfierence from the government itself it is technically freedom for them.
There would be no need for freedom of speech and the freedom of votes for the uneducated and non-professionals as long as the state provides for them. (I have insight as I have a few dozen relatives living in China, and personally lived there for a few months, there is virtually nothing close to what you hear from most western news.)
Asian Boss的视频看个乐呵就行了 实质上还是个藏私活的频道
@@xh6634 那你不是看到底下说的东西都是错误的，视频里讲的东西翻一下来会有误会的，他们本来就对这些东西会有不太好的想法。。只是说一下，这样最少可以跟好理解一下中国里的事情。
你是错的啊，每个人都可以投票的，但不是直接让你选举主席，而是县级以下人大代表由直接选举产生，然后人大代表选举主席总理，并不认为只有西方那样所有人直接选举才是选举，因为中国国情不一样。
@@張謙-o2z That I completely understand and agree with, of course they can vote in china for the local government leaders and such but the thing is, that voting in china requires you to be a party member, and even then only vote for the lowest seat of government, I personally belive and agree that this is actually a great way to vote for the chairman since it is an upwards merit based election, and since only qualified people who are educated enough be a party member vote, it tends to give the people's congress a more qualified candidate. But this is so different from the western democracy (EU and NA is referring to democracy as) that I wouldn't call it democracy, not that because it doesn't live up to western standards but because I also think that western democracies and voting systems are truly flawed and get people into power who don't have no merit to do so. I think we both belive on the fact that china is solely based on socialism as the core of party thinking, So I'd rather say that china is much rather a socialist (社会主义) meritocracy (任人唯贤) with a voting system inplace which help to hold up merit, than just a democracy or even a socialist democracy...
我完全理解和同意，他们当然可以在中国投票给地方政府领导人之类的，但问题是，在中国投票需要你是党员，即使那样也只能投票给最低的政府席位 ，我个人相信并同意，这实际上是投票给主席的好方法，因为这是一次向上的择优选举，而且由于只有受过足够教育的合格人员才能投票，这往往会给人大一个 更合格的候选人。 但这与西方民主（欧盟和北美将民主称为）如此不同，以至于我不会称其为民主，不是因为它不符合西方标准，而是因为还认为西方民主和投票制度 确实有缺陷，并让没有功劳的人掌权。 我认为我们都相信中国完全基于社会主义作为党的思想核心，所以我宁愿说中国更像是一个社会主义 任人唯贤，有投票制度 这有助于保持优点，而不仅仅是民主甚至社会主义民主......
I think the biggest problem is people in democratic countries think democracy is the ONLY way a country can prosper and thrive. So no matter what Chinese people say, they will not accept it.
Let's all get off our high horses for a sec. Just a sec and realise what the purpose of a government is for. To create an environment for the people living under its rules to lead happy, fulfilled lives. You need sufficient food, housing, medical care and varied job markets. For immediate needs. You then need a politically stable country so people can plan for the future and have hope. And then you need to provide people the opportunity to be creative and pursue recreational activities.
None of that requires democracy. The idea goes, democracy will ensure all of that because everyone gets to vote who is in charge and the people in charge will make the above happen or they won't get voted. However, you don't need to vote for the person in charge to create an environment a population can thrive and prosper.
Now, for China specific associations within the democracy discussion, which is mostly about censorship and state control over many aspects of life. VPN. That's all I have to say. I don't know a single Chinese person under the age of 30 who doesn't use VPNs to access blocked sites. It's not really censorship, its more of an inconvenient barrier.
Is China flawed? Yes. Is every country in the world flawed? Yes. Should China change into a democratic country? Hell no. That's my personal opinion. I don't think a democratic China would have seen the progress it has in the last 40 years. I think China still needs the one party system to keep progress on track to lift more people out of poverty. The middle class is only 30% of the population, and then you include the top 10%, that's only 40%. There's still a lot of illiterate people living in poverty.
P.S You need to get better translators on this channel.
yah man. hell no to democracy.
The ethnic Uyghur Muslims in China's Xinjiang region definitely aren't leading "happy, fulfilled lives" under the current Chinese government I can tell you that much. Neither are Tibetans or people of pretty much any other religion.
@@gruetwo3424 have you been to Xinjiang and Tibet? actually lived there for a few years and not just a week or a month? Yes there are social issues, yes there are even political issues. but what you read on your filtered mass media is at the extreme ends of the spectrum of life. the MAJORITY of people living in China are just living ordinary lives. I promise you. very ordinary lives. If you guys really want to complain about China, stop talking about the one party system because that's an ideology argument, start talking about the actual structural problems like the lack of food and safety regulation. The lack of transparency in the legal courts. The resident registry system that is aggravating the wealth gap in the country. Then we have some meaningful discussion topic. censorship that most people bypass with a simple vpn and a one party political system that is the direct reason for a country's fast economic progress which has led to increased literacy, lower infant mortality and higher living standards overall...yeah no thanks. Talking about political ideology is like talking about religion, most people can't look at a situation objectively enough to understand it's not the religion that makes the religion, it's the worshippers that makes the religion. Same with political systems. Not the system, it's the politicians.
@@nuyoo6504 Still think that having a one party system is at least partially responsible for several of the points you brought up. If there is no competition, and thus no threat of being voted out of power, then there is little incentive for any political party (left of right leaning) to do right by it's citizens as their opinions are largely irrelevant towards the party's overall interests.
@@gruetwo3424 I think people forget how democratic countries have failed on food and safety as well. Flint Michigan still doesn't have safe clean drinking water and ppl are dependent on bottled water. The vote for independence of the Catalan state from the rest of Spain basically got ignored. And overall all democratic, free market societies have build an unsustainable environment of high taxes and high prices with lower and lower purchasing power. I don't see the left or right in any of these countries getting what the people want...I could go on with the examples of how democracy isn't the cure and be all to a country.
In USA you are free to say what you like as long as it doesn't conflict with your corporate overlords, then there might be consequences. Not govt consequences but career/corporate problems. Just keep your mouth shut in America and everything is fine.
I think that's called whistleblowers or complainers. But you have those everywhere, not just America. If you badmouth your boss, logically speaking, why would he/she keep you? You can fire yourself and find a better boss. That makes life easier, doesn't it?
blah blah blah...I'm a millennial who spews more nonsense and rhetoric from twitter, Facebook and leftist/rightest or celebrities are spewing out now...cause i'm hip...i'm with it man! what i am saying...shut your mouth, read a non-edited for P.C. history, politics and ethics books.....then spend time in china for 3 years among the poorer cities population...after having learned to speak and understand Chinese fluently....then and only then...can you say even a word that might actually be factual and relevant to the conversation at hand. fuckin ignorant millennial! btw if your not a millennial, fuckin shame on you for being just purely ignorant sheeple!
@@FrancesNatyGo which means there’s no absolute freedom in US or anywhere else, and Americans like to put emphasis on freedom this, freedom that…
i think china people did not know what democracy is. They thinking democracy is just living.
They live much better life than you democratic Indians
They literally votes too
其实我们也投票，只是普通人没有投票权力😂
@@Faarrr-r1d Everything looks good if your economy performs well. If economy is not good, people will try to protest or against government polices.
government try to force to stop it. Thats the time people feel actual democracy.
3:02 random dog running in the background
From being eaten!
@@RS-xx8gz Haha, good one :)
Yeah. He wants to live. Doesn't want to be eaten.
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Oh my God, I thought this comment would start the one wholesome conversation under this video...then I looked at the replies 😐
The people there seem to be so nice and welcoming. I hope to visit someday. For those that live in China, do you all recommend Shenzhen for tourism?
I don't think Shenzhen is a good place for tourism. As Shenzhen is a modern city without culture, not very different from other modern cities in the world, I would recommend travelling to some old cities such as Guangzhou, Nanjing, Beijing, Xian, etc., but also to some small cities with beautiful natural and human environment such as Guilin, Lijiang, Zhangjiajie, Lhasa, etc.
@@Simonezsm Thanks so much for the advice. I’ll definitely keep what you said in mind.
I would recommend my hometown, Guangzhou, which is 1 hr by train from SZ, is a modern but laidback, historical major city with very nice local food. Shenzhen has its charm but we usually say it’s a place for work not a place for life😉
@@rosiearmstrong1006 Thanks so much for the advice. I’ll definitely consider Guangzhou in the future... some time after the government gets rid of the Covid test that foreigners are subjected to. lol Asian Boss should do a video on that.
@@shogoracing4294 Welcome to Mainland China
3:03 I am more worried about that dog's owner😂. As a Great Dane owner I can totally relate.😂
I'm more worried about the dog than the owner 🤣
Someone may advocate a democratic system will allow alternation of power. This would remove biases existing in administration and (in theory) reach some ideal balance. Do you see such balance to occur in all countries where multi-parties are allowed, or do you see just the polarization between the most powerful two parties fighting like crazy for votes and spending more energy (money) on dehumanizing the adversaries?
Like Taiwan
You're totally right. Our democracy is a room to or savagery
You cannot judge a country’s system without hearing from it’s people, you cannot determine democracy by freedom and other ways as evil.
You sound like you rather feel safe at the expense of freedom. That’s not a good thing. America isn’t perfect by no standards of the word. It has huge problems but the people can voice there opinions without fearing incarceration. Chinas government incarcerated anyone who actively speak out against there government and also heavily censor information. For example Hong Kong is currently protesting for its freedom but the situation is heavily censored.
There are plenty of people commenting negatively about their government they are either being muted on the internet or even put to jail. Furthermore, by interviewing people on the street with their faces being shown on the media, they would not talk too much negatively about their authority.
@@friendlyfriday3445 there is no protest in HK right now. Wtf bruh 🙄
@Joseph yea of course as long as you are weak and complicit. Your so fine with having others tell you what to do and how to feel. I have no doubt you would give up your rights for feeling slightly more safe in an unsafe world
The fact we can find in this video is that any Chinese didn't criticize their government. Although they talk about the freedom of speech or action, they don't criticize the security system tracking all the people in china. Their government doesn't allow the people to contact information freely but Chinese say we are free. Some paper companies for Chinese communist's politicians were found. The money they hided is over 50 billions of dollar. However, Chineses don't know this or they don't try to do demonstration against their government. But they keep saying we have freedom of speech. How can we say this is democracy?
The west defines democracy as a voting system. That is really a superficial understanding of democracy.
Democracy is the will of the people represented by the leaders of the country. In the US the will of the people is definitely not represented at all by its leaders.
Also if a nation is made of mostly farmers how will democracy help making the country prosperous? More than democracy, you need visionaries in a country. China took 40 years before building a system that creates those leaders.
You are right, but many fools still believe that China is evil
absolutely right
I will give my opinion. firstly, I don't really believe in freedom, we human are not free, if you agree that everything are determined by laws of physics, even we go less extreme, we are largely influenced by our culture, education, social status and obviously our genetics. even we go even less extreme, most people spend most of their time on a job that they hate. how are we free? all we have is the illusion of freedom.
now I will give my opinion on democracy, I think the actual purpose of democracy is that it is a way to prevent corruption. so I don't blindly believe in democracy, it is a means to an end. if there is better system that prevents corruption, I would definitely support it. but at least currently, it seems that democracy is the only viable way to effectively counteract corruption.
Totally!
@@jacklin5571 yes because no matter what, T square and Uighar Muslims are always a good reason to loathe the CCP
This changed the way that i thought about china, Thank you Asian Boss
what do u think china is before?
Haha I want to ask the same thing too. What do you China is like before? I’m living in it for more than 30 years, I always feel free and safe. We talk about democracy as well. If we have problem, we also get angry and want the government gives us answers and they deliver what we want most of the time, plain and simple.
For me, the enforced my view that Chinese people are totally brainwashed
theworldneedsnoclown so you think a country that has a million people in concentration camps, one where reporters disappear, one where protesters are gunned down and trampled by tanks when they want true democracy, where they actively would prefer hundreds of thousand to die to protect the one party image, where they used to make everyone have one child and forced millions of abortions, is at all good?
So explain that dimwit
China is very democratic even jack maa got killed because of saying a bad thing about xi jingping and ccp 😂
I'm glad im born in india
India maybe poor but we don't arrest people for cursing our great leader modi ji
Jack Ma was arrested because he was refusing to change company policies that were aggressive towards workers. In India, the company owner can be corrupt at will and there is only law for the poor.
Ignorant Indians, ridiculous, pitiful!
Democracy is great but the cold war nerrative of communism vs democracy is definitely misleading.
Actually, CCP is not that bad as some people think. I have told this to at least 100+ foreigners but still some people just don't believe and assume that I'm controlled by CCP🤣🤣🤣.
哈哈哈
Jack ma ??
@@vinitgkd What are you talking about? You mean Jack Ma is murdered by CCP? Stop joking🤣🤣
@@wowoh3430 哈哈，我能怎么办，真就当我是Robot呗
@@百事可乐-p1e 相信你，我笑的是不相信你的人