Using aniline dye stains, I show you how to achieve a burst finish on a snare drum shell. The shell is a Vaughncraft solid maple with a stunning quilted figure.
LOL love the first music wheel of fortune song,, in some shops that's called the wheel of misfortune. Nice job and I like the roller set up, gave me an idea.
There are two reasons I like water better than alcohol soluble dyes. The first is that water soluble dyes are more colorfast (meaning more resistant to fade), and the other is that water soluble dyes are easier to manage once on the wood. Alcohol dries fast and if you're doing something like a burst as shown in the video, water is much easier to get a smooth transition. Depending on your topcoat process, you'll need to weigh that against the grain raising issue. Remember.. test test test!
Mostly I was applying in a circular motion because a quilt figure has the grain opening pointing in all directions. The goal is to force dye down the grain openings. Sanding a shell too smooth closes the grain and doesn't allow good stain penetration. Sanding to 120 is plenty. Sanding sealer plus topcoat is for smoothing the surface.
- It's not paint but aniline dye stain - The finished shell is not on the site - the two dyes are black and purple - get the rollers at rockler.com - the topcoat is industrial polyester (not polyurethane). polyester is a 100% solids, high build finish used by high end guitar makers, piano makers, drum companies, etc. - because polyester is a high build finish, you don't need to sand every layer.
thanks for the tip & link, and the Great Videos! if you take requests i would love to see a video of someone hand cutting edges with a router, as it would seem to be the cheapest way for me to diy a drum kit from start to finish, and i don't know of any videos really explaining the process.
Hey man, after watching ur vid, i decided to stain with custom colours from the paint store i work at... its a 3 toned finish with 3 different colours with all oil applied stains and sealer... but my main concearn is the application process.. i have no clue how im going to apply the stain like you did without that conveyer type rollers ur using to spin the drum around to have a consistent and fairly easy application.
No pre-stain. Personally I've always found a proper sanding works better. No sand paper was used between the stains, the shell might look sanded because the dye dries and lightens up. When the topcoat goes on the color will pop again.
will i be able to get my hands on a drum working tool like the one your useing, and if not.. Any other suggestions how i will be able to do this clean and productively... ? would really appreiciate the help....
Spinning doo-dad is custom made. You can get those rollers at rockler.com. Beware of the super cheap rollers you find elsewhere because they don't spin on center.
The mount.....with the cylinders with the bearings built in.....that you mount the shell on (and is mounted off the edge of your bench)......What is that called? and where can I get one?
hey man, this may sound like an odd question, but what is the name of the roller thingy that the shell is on. to be specific, I want one, what would I search for online?
Hi...pretty job...I tried to entry at dfdrumtech . om to see how you finish this snare because I`m trying some similar (maple,but not quilted one)...but web says "offline",so I could not register there......Could you tell me how many "hands/covers" of polyester did you use to get the shell finished?? Is that a normal nautical polyester? some catalizator to mix?..or just polyester with no more things added there??....I`m new with stains and I would like to now how you did...THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
I know this comment is 5 years old... so I assume you found a solution to building the drum rollers. But, here's what I did: th-cam.com/video/4iTxea9pBhY/w-d-xo.html
Woow ..shows right here..in the video...that your watching...on TH-cam...where there are videos.....that's you watch ..so you ask dumbass questions like this I .
And a little common sense tells you it's Birdseye maple ...oh that's also the TITTLE OF THE VIDEO..OMG I wish you could back hand ppl through a screen !! Some of the dumbest questions I've ever read on these videos !
I generally make it a point to not complain in the TH-cam comments, but there's nothing more annoying than watching a project video that doesn't show the finished product. Surely you can think of a way to increase your website traffic without annoying your TH-cam audience.
It would have looked better if you had left it with out the black in the middle. It looked really good with the light fade in the middle. You are covering too much of the natural beauty of the wood.
love that "price is right" music in the background !
I freakin LOVE the music! At leas you can be sure, no one is gonna bust bust you for any copyright infringement!
LOL love the first music wheel of fortune song,, in some shops that's called the wheel of misfortune. Nice job and I like the roller set up, gave me an idea.
The music is hilarious, I love it !!!
BTW, I love the color work in the shell too !!!
There are two reasons I like water better than alcohol soluble dyes. The first is that water soluble dyes are more colorfast (meaning more resistant to fade), and the other is that water soluble dyes are easier to manage once on the wood. Alcohol dries fast and if you're doing something like a burst as shown in the video, water is much easier to get a smooth transition.
Depending on your topcoat process, you'll need to weigh that against the grain raising issue. Remember.. test test test!
I figured it must have been something to that effect. so simple, but its absolutely genius!
Where can i find that roller set up to spin my shells
Mostly I was applying in a circular motion because a quilt figure has the grain opening pointing in all directions. The goal is to force dye down the grain openings. Sanding a shell too smooth closes the grain and doesn't allow good stain penetration. Sanding to 120 is plenty. Sanding sealer plus topcoat is for smoothing the surface.
- It's not paint but aniline dye stain
- The finished shell is not on the site
- the two dyes are black and purple
- get the rollers at rockler.com
- the topcoat is industrial polyester (not polyurethane). polyester is a 100% solids, high build finish used by high end guitar makers, piano makers, drum companies, etc.
- because polyester is a high build finish, you don't need to sand every layer.
It is a water based stain. The plastic container has water in it used to raise the grain. We sell the stains on our website.
i try to avoid using water, because the moisture can get trapped under the lacquer, nice stain job tho man, quality work!!
And now i know how to do this myself.
Cool, you guys may get to the level of DW one of these days!
thanks for the tip & link, and the Great Videos! if you take requests i would love to see a video of someone hand cutting edges with a router, as it would seem to be the cheapest way for me to diy a drum kit from start to finish, and i don't know of any videos really explaining the process.
Hey This is great! I was wondering what those rollers you have it on are called? Also do they come in longer lengths like for bass drums and such?
Yes, that's what we topcoat with.
Hey man, after watching ur vid, i decided to stain with custom colours from the paint store i work at... its a 3 toned finish with 3 different colours with all oil applied stains and sealer... but my main concearn is the application process.. i have no clue how im going to apply the stain like you did without that conveyer type rollers ur using to spin the drum around to have a consistent and fairly easy application.
yeah i'd also like to know where ya got the rollers lol beautiful shell though
No higher than 220 or 180 to keep the grain open. Always sand with the grain in a linear direction. Don't use an orbital on raw wood.
Awesome!! Where did you get your Roller Set up and are they adjustable??
Most certainly!
No pre-stain. Personally I've always found a proper sanding works better. No sand paper was used between the stains, the shell might look sanded because the dye dries and lightens up. When the topcoat goes on the color will pop again.
Is that the Nexus (Bob Becker) version of "Dill Pickles" at 5:50? I can't seem to find it anywhere for purchase. Where did you find it if I may ask?
That's Morris Palter who actually studied with Nexus!
Dfdrumtech is parked at server w no finished product! A real letdown after watching video!
will i be able to get my hands on a drum working tool like the one your useing, and if not.. Any other suggestions how i will be able to do this clean and productively... ? would really appreiciate the help....
are is that that are you spraying in white plastic container or something...is that water or wat.?? can anyone help me..?
Whats the name of the stain you are using? Some stains ive used dont turn out real well, but i like the look of the one in the video.
Should I always use water before dying wood? In this case a bowl. Please get back to me. Thank You
what type of stain is that? water based? or a concentrate using acetone or laq thinner?and whats up with the scream at 7:10?
Why don't you sand after the Shellac and before the sealer? Thanks for the great vid!
Bobby Vincent you deal over the stain then sand the dealer then lacquer
what type of product is used for dyeing.
Why do you wet the shell before staining. I think you said raise the grain or something. But what does it do
thumbs up for the price is right song!
Could u tell me how do u painted ur drum ? which products u have used ?
What are you using to apply the stain to the shell? a cloth of some kind?
do i have to sign up as a member to see the finished drum? how would I know where to find it?
kontol benar, really good!!
Spinning doo-dad is custom made. You can get those rollers at rockler.com. Beware of the super cheap rollers you find elsewhere because they don't spin on center.
Where do you get the aniline stains from? I'm building a kit with the same color scheme.
The mount.....with the cylinders with the bearings built in.....that you mount the shell on (and is mounted off the edge of your bench)......What is that called? and where can I get one?
Nevermind - I see you already answered that question months ago.
@@drhappyyy I built my own. lol th-cam.com/video/4iTxea9pBhY/w-d-xo.html ...Did a video on the build. It was pretty easy.
what type of stain is that? water based? or a concentrate?
what is this spinning do-dad you have the shell on. aaaaand where can I get one??
hey man, this may sound like an odd question, but what is the name of the roller thingy that the shell is on. to be specific, I want one, what would I search for online?
where do you get that little roller thing that the shell sits on?
@drumfoundry1 by "top coat" you mean shellac?
Hi...pretty job...I tried to entry at dfdrumtech . om to see how you finish this snare because I`m trying some similar (maple,but not quilted one)...but web says "offline",so I could not register there......Could you tell me how many "hands/covers" of polyester did you use to get the shell finished?? Is that a normal nautical polyester? some catalizator to mix?..or just polyester with no more things added there??....I`m new with stains and I would like to now how you did...THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
Where can you see the finished drum?
What does quilted mean in the term you use it...
How can I buy a jig like that, or make it.
What time of paint you using
What kind of paint do you use?
After using water to raise the grain at the beginning, did you sand it again?
No, because it with a high build polyester it doesn't matter. The finish is thick enough that it takes care of that.
And you need a raised grain so the stain saturates well
It's a rag wadded up, then stuff the rag in another rag and tie off like a little ghost.
can you help with the setup for the rollers?
Thanks
I know this comment is 5 years old... so I assume you found a solution to building the drum rollers. But, here's what I did: th-cam.com/video/4iTxea9pBhY/w-d-xo.html
Shoulda called this "how to ruin a maple shell in under 9 minutes "
i want one
Wouldn't it just suck if you had to start ALL OVER if you mess up the lacquer?
I made that roller jig. The rollers are from leevalley (leevalley d o t c o m) and the support structure is pretty simple to make with scrap wood.
They are from rockler.com.
How does he get the "textured" finish in the paint job?
rthmjohn watch the damn video to find out
Woow ..shows right here..in the video...that your watching...on TH-cam...where there are videos.....that's you watch ..so you ask dumbass questions like this I .
And a little common sense tells you it's Birdseye maple ...oh that's also the TITTLE OF THE VIDEO..OMG I wish you could back hand ppl through a screen !! Some of the dumbest questions I've ever read on these videos !
Green bastard ..what you got a stupid question too or just a stupid comment?
LOL price is right :D
7:09 some poor girl just died
I guess I say 220 in the video but 120, 220 is fine.
Haha, thanks, but there is only ONE DW!
It's home made.
link to see finished drum does not exist...
Sorry the website had changed so the link died.
That used to be a pretty shell
I generally make it a point to not complain in the TH-cam comments, but there's nothing more annoying than watching a project video that doesn't show the finished product. Surely you can think of a way to increase your website traffic without annoying your TH-cam audience.
sceams AHHHHHHHHSSSHGGGHHH LOL
i think that's not the correct way to apply the sealer D=
The process is way too complicated to list out online.
It would have looked better if you had left it with out the black in the middle. It looked really good with the light fade in the middle. You are covering too much of the natural beauty of the wood.
THE PRICE IS RIGHT HAHA!!!