As a flutist, I love seeing your work! Really puts into perspective how much instruments have changed over the past millenias! Really good job, as always...
@@MakeItPrimitive As I play the side-blown flute I wouldn't really know about end-blown/vertical futes. But an interesting way to work with wooden flutes is to do the "ancestor" of the modern day side-blown: the Traverso (appeared around the 11th century) and try to make a primitive version of it, maybe? For such flute the air shouldn't be directed to the hole but rather in front of the instrument. A lot of videos out there to help ^^ If you do make it, I'll be glad to provide additional information on how to play!
Having been a clarinetist for more than 25 years, I’m inclined to put a reed on it like an oboe. I imagine most primitive flutes to be closer to recorders than actual flutes.
That's a good idea, and it has actually been tested by experimental archaeologists. If I remember correctly, they weren't convinced, but maybe they haven't found the right way to do it yet. But I have actually made some progress concerning this flute, I can now get some decent notes out of it using a better embouchure. The problem is that the "sweet spot" of these flutes gets very narrow as their diameter gets smaller, so I still have no idea how anyone could play the original "Hohler Fels" flute, which has an inner diameter of just 6 millimeters.
Don't worry - as long as I have ideas for new projects, I have no intention of quitting. And just the ideas already on my list should keep me busy for some time :-)
I think it could be similar to ney flute technique or to overtone singing or to Didgeridoo playing: in all these cases you form your mouth and tongue like you were whistling but youre not actually whistling
I would recommend using one with thin walls, simply because this is a bit closer to the original (bird bones have thin walls as well, because they're built to be light). My flute has an outer diameter of about 13 millimeters and an inner diameter of 9 millimeters. The original "Hohler Fels" flute is significantly thinner with about 8 millimeters on the outer diameter. When looking for suitable elderberry branches, keep your eyes out for those that grow straight upward, don't have any significant branches higher up, and have a fresh, shiny bark. Those tend to be the ones with a wide bore and thin walls. I'm planning to make a video on this topic (finding good material for flutes) sometime in the near future, by the way.
I don’t know if using any branch works tho, I’m just starting to make these and try them out but no sound will come out and since I just started I don’t know how to tell the difference between types of branches or wood, I need sum help!! I’m using the branches I find in the trees behind my house but idk if they work
I have never done this myself, but after watching several videos of people making primitive flutes, I believe that adding a block as in this video: th-cam.com/video/0ejtsATsM8E/w-d-xo.html would make it work more like a recorder th-cam.com/video/0jS_RSnRMi4/w-d-xo.html which could produce a clearer tone
Any hollow, stable piece should work. We dont' have this plant where I live, but from the description I read it should work well. Possibly even better than my elderberry, because canes aren't tubes, but made up of series of chambers. Which means you don't need a plug to separate the air chamber from the sound chamber. Check out the channel "BlueBearFlutes" for tutorials on this type of flute made from river cane, that's where I got a lot of my information from.
The tune is known as "Daglarym" ("My Mountains"). I first heard it in the version performed by Sainkho Namtchylak (link in the video description). Another more traditional interpretation by Chirgilchin is also really beautiful: th-cam.com/video/TXh5_G9NjJI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=sborsody
@@MakeItPrimitive Hey, i know this might be a difficult request but if you can make a cover for the song on that exact flute i would love it. i just like the hoarse sound of it
As a flutist, I love seeing your work! Really puts into perspective how much instruments have changed over the past millenias! Really good job, as always...
Cool, you're a flutist? Do you have any suggestions on how else such an instrument could be played?
@@MakeItPrimitive As I play the side-blown flute I wouldn't really know about end-blown/vertical futes. But an interesting way to work with wooden flutes is to do the "ancestor" of the modern day side-blown: the Traverso (appeared around the 11th century) and try to make a primitive version of it, maybe? For such flute the air shouldn't be directed to the hole but rather in front of the instrument. A lot of videos out there to help ^^
If you do make it, I'll be glad to provide additional information on how to play!
Having been a clarinetist for more than 25 years, I’m inclined to put a reed on it like an oboe. I imagine most primitive flutes to be closer to recorders than actual flutes.
That's a good idea, and it has actually been tested by experimental archaeologists. If I remember correctly, they weren't convinced, but maybe they haven't found the right way to do it yet.
But I have actually made some progress concerning this flute, I can now get some decent notes out of it using a better embouchure. The problem is that the "sweet spot" of these flutes gets very narrow as their diameter gets smaller, so I still have no idea how anyone could play the original "Hohler Fels" flute, which has an inner diameter of just 6 millimeters.
Love seeing your vids, I know you'll have a large following someday so keep at it and don't quit!
Don't worry - as long as I have ideas for new projects, I have no intention of quitting. And just the ideas already on my list should keep me busy for some time :-)
Awesome that ur using flint fr props to u good sir
Awesome job.
Nice work👍
So cool
I think it could be similar to ney flute technique or to overtone singing or to Didgeridoo playing: in all these cases you form your mouth and tongue like you were whistling but youre not actually whistling
Beautiful! Does it matter what sort of branch you use?
I would recommend using one with thin walls, simply because this is a bit closer to the original (bird bones have thin walls as well, because they're built to be light). My flute has an outer diameter of about 13 millimeters and an inner diameter of 9 millimeters. The original "Hohler Fels" flute is significantly thinner with about 8 millimeters on the outer diameter. When looking for suitable elderberry branches, keep your eyes out for those that grow straight upward, don't have any significant branches higher up, and have a fresh, shiny bark. Those tend to be the ones with a wide bore and thin walls.
I'm planning to make a video on this topic (finding good material for flutes) sometime in the near future, by the way.
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I don’t know if using any branch works tho, I’m just starting to make these and try them out but no sound will come out and since I just started I don’t know how to tell the difference between types of branches or wood, I need sum help!! I’m using the branches I find in the trees behind my house but idk if they work
I have never done this myself, but after watching several videos of people making primitive flutes, I believe that adding a block as in this video: th-cam.com/video/0ejtsATsM8E/w-d-xo.html would make it work more like a recorder th-cam.com/video/0jS_RSnRMi4/w-d-xo.html which could produce a clearer tone
In your opinion could "arundo donax" work as material to make a flute like this?
Any hollow, stable piece should work. We dont' have this plant where I live, but from the description I read it should work well. Possibly even better than my elderberry, because canes aren't tubes, but made up of series of chambers. Which means you don't need a plug to separate the air chamber from the sound chamber. Check out the channel "BlueBearFlutes" for tutorials on this type of flute made from river cane, that's where I got a lot of my information from.
intro song?
The tune is known as "Daglarym" ("My Mountains"). I first heard it in the version performed by Sainkho Namtchylak (link in the video description). Another more traditional interpretation by Chirgilchin is also really beautiful: th-cam.com/video/TXh5_G9NjJI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=sborsody
@@MakeItPrimitive thank you very much!
@@MakeItPrimitive Hey, i know this might be a difficult request but if you can make a cover for the song on that exact flute i would love it. i just like the hoarse sound of it