Mikhail Zlatopolsky & Don Kosaken Choir Prayer for the Dead - Double Low C
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This has been on TH-cam for a while, but without the information on the oktavist and the exact notes on this recording. This recording contains the lowest notes ever recorded without amplification (e.g., "basses" who use vocal fry and microphones to reach these notes). Zlatopolsky drops from A1 to D1 repeatedly: at 1:35, 2:47, 4:50, 6:04, and at the end of the piece. At 4:50, he even drops down to a low C1--an octave below low C--and is clearly audible over the entire choir.
Here is a short biography of Zlatopolsky for those interested.
Mikhail (Motja Moiseevich) Zlatoposlky was born to a family of Don Cossacks in the province of Rostov. Although his family were ethnically Jewish, they converted to the Russian Orthodox Church. After the Revolution, when the Orthodox singing moved into the category of marginal employment, the number of bass profundo sharply declined. Soviet oktavists enjoyed intense demand: during the Brezhnev era, Moscow choirs outbid each other for Zlatopolsky as the star player. Zlatoposlky's place of employment was considered the Union Radio Choir, but he also performed with a number of Orthodox, Catholic, and Lutheran churches--even at times in the synagogue. Zlatopolsky recorded with the Don Cossacks Choir of Russia, conducted by Marcel Verhoeff-not to be confused with the more famous Cossack Choir under Serge Jaroff. He also can be heard singing Sviridov's Kursk Songs with Moscow State Chamber Choir under Vladimir Minin.
Besides his musical career, Zlatopolsky also worked as an actor on several Russian films and TV shows, often playing the part of a Russian Orthodox priest. Although these parts were mostly small, his most prominent roles include "Yemelyan Pugachev" (1978),"Three Years" (1980), "We are Not Crowned in the Church" (1982), and "Storm over Russia" (1992). Other video footage of Zlatopolsky may be seen on the DVD "Great Singers of Russia, Vol 1 - Chaliapin, et. al"
(2003). • Video
Zlatopolky's range extends down to a C1. Even in the world of basso profundos and oktavists, Zlatopolsky's range is exceptional for it's depth. Chesnokov differentiates between a basso profundo whose range ends around C2, and strong oktavists, whose range may extend as low as G1 or F1. Zlatopolsky's range extends half an octave below this lowest classification. Before the Guinness Book of World Records began considering amplified vocal fry as a valid part of the vocal range, Zlatopolsky was listed as the lowest bass in the world with a documented low note of Eb1. He can be heard singing down to C1 in the Don Cossack's Choir performance of "Prayer for the Dead." His upper register is featured prominently in "Three Years" (1980), where he chants up to C#3.
Zlatopolsky was not only known for the sheer depth of his range, but also his resonance and power. One Moscow chorister describes the experience of singing with Zlatopolsky thus: "At one concert on a small stage, we stood in close alignment. I was next to Mikhail (although I like the authentic 'Motja' better). We were performing Kedrov's 'Our Father,' and Zlatopolsky went into the contra octave. His voice began to shake the bodies of us who were standing near to him. I was not up to singing--stood there in a kind of trance, trying to comprehend the experience." Another remembers seeing Zlatopolsky perform a choral cycle by Gavrilin. He noted that generally oktavists, along with the rest of the choir, need to be precisely on pitch in order for such notes in the contra-octave to be clearly audible--otherwise the sonority is ruined. During the performance, however, he recounts that the rest of the choir sounded like "nothing more than a squeak" above the sound of Zlatopolsky's voice. Despite his enormous voice, Zlatopolsky was a relatively small man--an exception in the world of profundos.
Zlatopolsky passed away in 2001.
Note: a lot of people are saying this is closer to B than C, and it is between the two keys as is so often the case with choirs.
Do you happen to know who wrote this beautiful piece of music?
Zlatopolsky's voice has both that "edgy lazer beam"quality and at the same time able to produce rich harmonics. it is much like the tone of a bass trombone
I have a similar quality to my voice... but at G1 (my lowest projected note). Just the fact Zlatopolsky could do this down to C1 is mind-boggling... even to a low bass, such as myself.
It's at moments like this I thank the Good Lord for TH-cam
I agree. I now understand what Zlatopolsky was so legendary.
This man is the deepest, most resonant bass voice that I have ever heard (and I have heard them all) Nic Val sounds like a man with a sore throat and one lung compared to Zlatopolsky. One big difference between him and pretty much all the other octavists is that he hits the deep notes every time the phrase appears, unlike the rest who go for the deep note once, right at the end of the song. To do this repeatedly shows this man was exceptional in every respect. Goodness knows what it must have been like to stand next to him. The American gospel basses have the microphone shoved almost down their throat and bass amps and speakers to achieve their audible bottom end. JD Sumner had a genuinely deep voice as does Tim Riley and a few others (non friers that is) But they would not be heard in a choir setting like Zlato is. He is simply the gold standard!
My sentiments are similar, Bill. You may also be interested to hear a young oktavist by the name of Pavel Myakotin on my channel. He is one of the more resonant oktavists performing today, and was just 29 years old when this video was recorded: Down the Mother Volga (2014) - Kovcheg
Bill you know what's funny? You say Zlato is gold standard, but in Czech language, zlato literally means gold :) and in other slavic languages similar morph means the same. So we can say he has it already in his name :)
@@geuros So does 'Zlatopolsky' mean 'Polish gold'?
@@cpharris41 Literally - yes! polskii (transliteration from the Cyrillic) is an adjective meaning "Polish." And Zlato means gold. Of course, the beautiful part is that he was Jewish!
@@peterwozniak5054 Well, I've heard of the Goldsteins, the Goldbergs and the Goldenbergs - but now it seems I've heard of a Golden Pole, too!
His voice is like the flues and soft reeds of an organ pedal division, it's incredible.
4:51 - 4:55 B0, 3 octaves and one note lower than the central Do (C4), and the lowest supported note i know, and probably the lowest without fry in human history according to public recordings.
Beautiful harmonies, these harmonies almost make me a believer.
Lawrence Orr a believer of what?
So why not??
@@josephaswell6605 he meant a believer of Christ
@@paulwilliams9207 Because he's probably smart
Just wait. The truth is coming
The depth, power, resonance, and timbre of his voice is something magical. I have never heard someone sing this low without sounding like croaking fry in an open (non amplified, non microphone) setting. I once heard a man at a gas station who had the lowest speaking voice I ever heard. I could FEEL it across the room from very far away. I'd imagine Zlatopolsky's voice would be similar, and I wish I could feel that resonance in person vs. a recording. Truly remarkable.
Just listen to Pasyukov, he had also the clearest sound I ever heard
Beautiful music, and what a seismic voice!
Straight from the earth's core.
Even after there is a recorded version of a singer hitting a C1 without Subharmonics or Fry, why it is not in Guinness World Records?
Fairly enough the record goes to Zlatopolsky himself with a note of Eb1.
It's because they started using Tim Storm's fry notes as the lowest notes of all time, and the Guinness World Records doesn't know the difference between fry notes and chest notes.
Guinness is a novelty book company, not a legitimate record keeping organisation. I wouldn't pay them much notice.
I came to the awareness of the Oktavists only recently. As a much younger man I revered Jerome Hines and J.D. Sumner, and worked with my voice in their light to reach the resonance and power they seemed to naturally possess. Hearing Mikhail Zlatopolsky in different works makes me wish I had known of him when I was working with my voice. He would have completed my "trinity" of masters in the greatest sense. As Proverbs 27:17 states: "Iron sharpens iron"- this is very true for vocalists. I was beyond happy to sing Hine's "Grand Inquisitor" and Sumner's "This Old House". I would probably cry if I could sing "Prayer For The Dead" and reach the glorious depths of Zlato's
notes, whether over a choir or not.
It shakes the very foundations of my soul. What a powerful voice. I feel that every time he sang in this piece, I couldn't even breathe.
Can't stop listening to this marvelous composition....love this song...whole team esp...bass section ..zlatapolsky...u ..r gold standard...RIP....but u r voice will live for ever.....
Прослушав на низкой громкости, я обнаружил нечто поразительное:
4:38 - A♭2
4:42 - A♭1
4:46 - D♭1
4:51 - B0 !!!
Самому не верится, но я проверил несколько раз с помощью виртуального пианино.
6:10 ниже чем В0!!!
К сожалению, не ниже. Это D1.
yes, these are D1 :)
Я профессиональный музыкант. Но что такое В0, D1?? Что за новшества еще?? В это си бемоль, D это Ре.. Что за 0 и 1 еще??
@@Oren34 , это они так октавы нумеруют. И, скорее всего, под В имеется ввиду Си, а не Си-бемоль.
If it is C1, then it is technically triple low C. Low C (C3) is is only one octave below middle C (C4), and is an easy low for most tenors to sing. Double low C (C2) is where a lot of basses start to lose resonance and power, and some can't hit it at all. Triple low C (C1) is the low note in this song, and I don't know many basses that are even capable of hitting it without fry or subharmonics, let alone at all...
No, C2 is "low C". It is called such, because it is the dividing line for bass-baritones and true basses. C3 is referred to as "small C" and is typically the lowest note sang by tenors. The Helmholtz designation gives C1 the abbreviation of "CC", hence, meaning it is double low C. Triple low C (C0) is the lowest note used in musical notation... although, there are a few instruments that can venture into the negative octaves.
Well, I guess I know what to play at my funeral. Mind-blowingly beautiful, regal, and graceful all at once.
Every time I hear those C1/ D1's I experience something hard to describe. Something like desire and expectation if I know the note is close to be sung, next: enchantment and the feeling I can't comprehend it, and after all: deep shock and amazement. Yes. He's awesome. RIP.
Thank you for the write-up on Zlatopolsky. It is quite extraordinary.
May the memory of the departed remain eternal. God bless. 🙏🙏🙏☦️☦️☦️💛💖💙
Спасибо, что вы были! Наш гений баса.
Боже, помилуй нас! Заупокойная литургия... Вспомните "Детский альбом" П.И. Чайковского - последнюю пьесу. На фортепиано так медленно не исполнить. Но именно в предельно медленном темпе открывается сакральный смысл этого песнопения...
Any debate should've ended from @1:31 to 1:42....but wait...there's more!
Пробирает до дрожи. Потрясающее исполнение. Великолепный бас-профундо
Один из самых низких и глубоких голосов в истории, а возможно и самый.
Где-то говорилось, что эта С1 была грудной нотой... Просто невероятно.
@@rtsbass7829там D1
I knew this recording from a fantastic Bill Laswell CD, but this is the first time I hear the original a cappella. Thank you for posting!
Never knew basses could get this low! He couldn't sing regular bass notes; they'd be too high! Is that double low C full voice?? Cuz damn that's not even human!! Very enjoyable to listen to though!!
The double-low C was indeed in full voice. He actually could sing the regular bass notes as well. I heard that one one occasion, when someone else in the choir started a competition to see who had the widest vocal range, Mikhail stood up and sang an E4, an E3, E2, and E1, and then sat down like nothing ever happened.
Music that touches my soul, opens my heart and gives me goose bumps. Such eternal beauty
The voice of girls get higher if they talk to someone they like.
Girls voices when they talk to me: 4:50
😂 Okay usually this joke is annoying cause it’s overused but this one is funny cause I imagined a girl staring at you with her mouth wide open projecting a D1 to C1 like Zlatopolsky lmao. Monster of a voice.
Ahahhaahahahhaahha
@@kfclit1199 This is funny considering that one of the sopranos I know can hit D3, so even if she knew subharmonics she'd still be an octave away. What a legendary voice.
Beautiful, this is actually calming.
This is truly great music and a example of good choir music.
This sounds heavenly, that's the word i would describe it with, heavenly.
The D1 at 2:47 is absolutely rock-solid.
Yes, Motya is one of the few oktavists who will drop to F1 and below when given the chance!
Tanner Cello That note is actually a C#1, the entire choir went flat. It's more impressive than you think! ;)
Axel E. Blair my tuner, ear and piano(with transposition) matches it at D1.
My absolute pitch ear matches it at a slightly sharp C#1 that actually sharpens into a D1... guess I didn't listen clearly enough.
My perfect pitch ear says D1. I'm not really going to "argue" much more because it's pointless to continue..
My favorite. Thank you.
God that's beautiful
Bravissimo !
Love this guy. Great chops strong double low C. Is very difficult to "sing" this note I know because I am one of the few who can, but this guy nails it. It's a completely different placement (secondary placent) to do this thats why its so difficult and so very very few real bass singers can do it. Length and girth of a vocal cord with the power to back it up, ★★★★
Can you really? I was hoping you would give me some advice. When I was 13-14 years old I first reached Bb1 kind of fried, being C2-B1 my lowest notes. However I got stuck with that vocal range for 4 years now and that was kind of a disappointment to me because I wanted to reach A1 properly sang. I was in a choir but I left at 14 I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
So basically I just wanted to ask you what can I do to reach my goals? I know it's a long term process but I really want it.
Cheers
for that age that is good, the male voice get deeper with age continuously !!!
I'm a 20-year-old high baritone (bottoming out anywhere between F2 and G2) with mild asthma, and no training whatsoever. If I get proper voice and breath training, and take good care of my voice, is there even a slight chance that I'll be able to sing down to an Eb2 by the time I'm your age? I'm a baritone in denial among a family with deeper voices…
Yes !!! the male voice slowly lowers with age, just don't rush it, take your time and most of all commit your talent to God be gracious and humble to your audience and BE YOURSELF don't impersonate anyone else.
+Nic Val Thank you very much for the advice :)
Basso Profundo majstore
This is the essence of life to me
words are..futile?
Voces hermosas, con armonías maravillosas. En fin.. Un coro extraordinario.
Beautiful!Thank you so mash!
The part at 4:55 is amazing
Esta canción me ha salvado de la misantropía.
Real freak of nature
The lowest natural basso profundo
I might be in the minority here, but I’m not a huge fan of his 0 octave and low 1 octave stuff AS MUCH as I’m a fan of his C2 for example. I have a huge amount of respect for his range and technique (he’s undeniably a beast and rocks them, no one could sing those low 0 octave notes better than him) just saying I feel like C2 is low enough and anything extra is just godly, then to go an octave below is really just unnecessary in my opinion. That’s just a personal preference of mine. Like I said, I have a huge amount of respect for this guy and how much of a beast he is on those D1s and C1s, that’s just absurdly low. This guy is an absolute animal. But like I said, I think his C2 is much more impressive sounding than these.
I have listened to a lot of Basso Profundo's and Mikail Zlatopolsky is without doubt the lowest and most resonant voice I have ever heard. I think the nearest singer to him is Viktor Wichniakov , Kruglov is getting there but he's still relatively young yet.
Kruglov is 42 years old, but he looks younger. You should listen to some material on my channel from the Kovcheg octavist. I think he is probably a little lower or on par with Wichniakov, and he is quite young. Watch my video titled "Power of the Russian Oktavist" and on the last clip he sings a loud F#1. I believe his name is Pavel Mekotin.
k barber Yes,i have seen all your basso profundo postings, especially all the Zlatopolsky material. it is also good to see contempory basso profundo's reaching low sounds.The Guy you mentioned I hadn't heard before, but I like the Oktavist Evgeny Badanin from "DOROS". I must be honest, I don't know or understand the music scale, I never have, but I know a good resonant low voice when I hear it. I thank you for posting these videos, I await your next ones with anticipation! I liked the two new ones I heard this morning, thanks.
Does anyone know the name and composer of this wonderful piece? I must have listened to it a hundred times and each time I am moved almost to tears
Fine singing by Zlatopolsky, but who is the baritone soloist? He deserves mention, too..
I would post this info when I have it, but I don't, unfortunately.
I think it's bass-baritone. He had powerful notes in 2 octave.
Definitely bass-baritone. My high-baritone voice doesn't even come NEAR the depth and power of this soloist.
How can a human being have vocal chords THAT HUGE? From what I’ve seen on pipe organs, only the 16 foot pipes can get down to C1 and below. Zlatopolsky was probably only about 6’0” tall. How is this possible?
Because you do not need to have super huge vocal cords. I can sing down to around A1 and you would not even see an adams apple. I am around 5'11" and quite skinny. People say that my voice does not fit to my appearance. Sometimes in the morning, i can go down to G1 or G#1. And to around F#1 if i am ill. Of course the reason for that is simply moisture on the vocal cords. It is already heavy enough to drop the voice by a few semitones. To go down to C1, the vocal cords would not even need to be much larger. Just slightly longer and thicker. Vocal cords are usually 15-20 mm long. Even in Zlatopolskys case probably 30 at best.
Dude was short. No where near 6ft tall.
4:48 c#1 - b0
Феноменальный бас профундо. Может петь на октаву ниже чем обычно исполняют басы профундо. Соль субконтроктавы!!! В жизни такого не слышал!!!!
Сергей Нельцин мой отец работал с Златопольским, и его самая низкая нота F#0
Сергей Нельцин и была запись раньше, сейчас её трудно отыскать, но там он спел A0
very cool profundo!!!
Is he the balrog
C. Saint-Saëns No, but he it it's master.
In soviet Russia, the Balrog sounds like Zlatopolsky.
He is waiting for you in the mines of Motja.
He is the dragon!
Anyone know where I can get a recording of this? Amazon has the cd at $150
David Kah it’s extremely rare
Можно перевести биографию Михаила Златопольского на русский язык. Заранее Огромное спасибо.
Is there anywhere I can find a lossles quality recording of it? A digital CD to buy? Anywon owns a copy?
What is the original name of this song
this is it
Zlatopolsky, the man who could give an organ a run for its money
Who is the composer of this piece? Is it traditional? Who is the soloist? Amazing work.
Oui c'est chant que l'on appelle d'"harmonisation traditionnelle", du type peut-être dit "de Kiev"!
Is this human?
Which CD is this recording from? I can't find it anywhere - it doesn't seem to be on the 'Sacred Hyms of Old Russia' CD you have an image of during the video
It is found on this album:
www.amazon.com/Namie-Bog-God-Is-With/dp/B000001SXN
$111 USD !!!
check again
wow this cd is 132 $.
@@entropicdoom8018 it's out of print - I got one in Europe via some CD trading thing - took years to find one
I keep hurting my vocal chords trying to sing so low
I have been listening to this piece over and over again for months now and came to a sad conclusion. The D1's and the C1 are not audible for me at all. I wondered if it's due to poor video quality, but the same problem persists in other, high-quality video.
I'm listening to music through my Superlux HD 669 headphones (cheap, but very underestimated stuff) and I'm certain that they're not the problem. What else then? The lame, motherboard-integrated audio device on my PC? Or is it just that my on hardware (ears) are not capable of recording such sounds? Any suggestions?
+Andrzej Andrzejowy The notes are low enough that you have to be listening for them. It's similar to how when most people listen to a band, they may not "hear" each individual instrument and vocal part. What's more impressive is Zlatopolsky's volume around G1 or so. Unparalleled! Like most notes at the edge of the singer's range, we lose some quality, so the C1 and D1 are by no means loud, although certainly audible for most.
+k barber "you have to be listening for them" - perfectly phrased. It's kind of nice and a bit nerdy to look for a certain note rather than just listening to the choir as a whole but I guess I like it. What's absolutely amazing to me is that I've noticed that it depends on a day whether I can hear the D1's or just know that they are there. Or maybe it's just my imagination. Either way - it's almost aunimaginable how powerful of a voice Motja had.
I guess I will never stop listening to this particular recording.
+Andrzej Andrzejowy
Напишу по-русски, чтобы не коверкать английский. Ноты ниже G1 очень сложно услышать в такой громкости как та же G1 или выше, особенно в хоре. Они слышны как гул, или дуновение ветра. Вы не поверите, но проблема в высокой громкости. Низкие ноты прекрасно слышны на низкой громкости. Попробуйте.
+k barber Is C1 the absolute lowest note in this piece?
Juan Hernandez Yes. Lowest notes are listed in description.
its so hard to hear the contra octave notes with some of the other singers singing the same note an octave up
okay, but what's this song called? I want the sheet music for it so badly
4:50
Прошу обратить внимание на 6:07 звучит A0- G0, точно не смог определить, поскольку почти не слышно
wallhack CS:GO это Bb0
wallhack CS:GO в интернете написано, да и не только в интернете мой отец с ним работал, когда Златопольский пел с Донскими казаками, он должен был взять B0, а по ошибке взял Bb0, за это его голос и признали самым глубоким басом, ведь прошлый рекор принадлежал Ивану Гаврилычу Сугробову, который мог брать B0 но Bb0 его переходил в штробас.
wallhack CS:GO а потом он смог и до фа диез спуститься- это его самая низкая Нота, а штробасом его ноты наверное были бы гораздо ниже чем у Тима Стормса
wallhack CS:GO согласен, это не пение, а штробас
@@СергейЩепетин-ъ3м Прошу Вас, расскажите ещё что-нибудь о Златопольский!!! Ведь Ваш отец наверное рассказывал Вам не только это.
To hear this now, with all that;s going on in the world - it makes me weep. That humans can be creators of such beauty and simultaneously such horrors. Rest easy those involved in the Ukraine invasion.
Is there anyone who knows the bariton or bass-bariton in this performance?
Where can I find the album that contains this?
Is this available for purchase?
Where can I buy or download this piece of music? Is it on Amazon?
www.amazon.com/Namie-Bog-God-Is-With/dp/B000001SXN
4:50 C1 b0
@@matthewdockray9745 no, c#1-b0 confirmed xd
17 dislikes? wtf
@1:40
💕
Maybe I'm too dumb to comprehend the English way of reading notes but if he reaches a C1 here, why is his lowest recorded note an Eb1?
Isn't that like three semitones lower?
Hanfgurkenhasser its 3 semitones higher*
Ninguna manera de rezar hay más hermosa para despedirse de los muertos....
How come only Russia has Oktavists?
Everybody has the people. But you also need to find them and train for this type of singing.
@@СавелийИхтиандров That's what I figured, but almost anything on this voice type is primarily Russian.
Еврейское казачество рулит! ) А я ведь с ним, со Златопольским, походя, рядышком стоял в одной басовой партии, в одном правохорном хоре пел, не имея пиитета соответствующего. Возлияния обильные и диабет, как мне ведомо, сгубили здоровье его. Советская родина не любила церковного поющего воинства, пусть и пъющего. )
Какая нота в конце?
G0
god voice
Vladimir Pasyoukov > Zlatopolsky
K Barber, do you know how old Zlatopolsky was when he died?
I don't, unfortunately.
66 years (15.08.1934 - 7.03.2001)
+k barber The Wikipedia article about him states that he lived from 1934 until 2001, so he was either 66 or 67 when he died. I can't find any sources giving exact dates, so we may never know.
Raymond Lisle Since I posted this, I have been in contact with Zlatopolsky's son who lives in America. All the information in the Wiki article comes from my channel, my website, and my correspondence with his son. I can ask him when he writes me again.
k barber I know this is random, but does his son have a deep voice as well?
Ну хоть бы в википедию глянули. "в семье донских казаков"! Мотя Моисеевич, ога, такой прям донской казак!
В Ташкенте, в еврейской семье!
Они перевели то, что написано по-немецки на картинке из альбома с музыкальными записями! Я хоть и не знаю немецкий, но вижу там слово "Ростов".
Я людина віруюча,але не релігіозна,але цей спів змусив мене завмерти
Champions League :))
Ужас, все делают это вибрато, ну зачем... Ни хрена не разобрать нормально из-за этого. Почему так именно у нас, это вибрато долбаное, на кой хрен оно нужно в хоровом пении.
Thank you for sharing this , it is truly AWESOME!