Great collaboration!❤ I think the questions asked were good, and the answers were clear. Very helpful to newbies and a good set of reminders for more experienced makers. 😊😊😊
Thank you very much. Im still learning from you. This is a great video. I really appreciate it. God bless you. You are a unselfish person 😊 and like i always said. You are the best 👌
This is great! I I have a favorite FO that I’m hell bent on nailing. I think I’ve finally got it, but I also know I can just do melts in that scent if all else fails. Hoping to launch in the Fall, but it will happen when my products are ready. Can’t rush it. Thanks for your expertise!
I heard from a guy who is a candle scientist and tests candles for big brands like Yankee candle who mentioned in his videos that since wax and fragrance oils are nonpolar oils, they don't bind but rather blend together. So heating up the fragrance so that they bind together is not really needed because the molecules don't actually combine in a molecular way. The way that can be done is using vybar because it is a positive polymer that will grab onto the wax and the fragrance oil molecules and keep them binded this way. He suggests just melting the wax until it melts, add the fragrance and pour cooler. He uses soy in his videos. Not sure if this applies to parrafin as he is against using parafin.
Yes that is true to a large degree and I echo the same mostly in my videos. The only caveat is that some waxes until are heated to a high enough temp stay sort of thick and do its harder to blend. So I basically just try to make sure the wax is liquid. I've never had problems. And also correct... it's more of a "blend" than a binding action. We just tend to use both words. Lol.
This was a great video. Nice to see the two of you collaborating together! I really liked that you had Matt on, finally able to put a face to the name. I have been using Problend and Premier 700 series (thanks to your videos Wade) and I am finally about to launch Valley Grove Candles. Even though I thought I had mastered this wax I still learned some great info from this video! One question for either of y'all: Have you ever used whitening powder for FOs that might discolor a non-color dyed candle?
I wish this video was around when I started. I would have saved so much money if I'd started with premier wicks. LX is pretty versatile too but I have a butt-ton of eco's and CD's I wasted my money on. Thank goodness for fire starters ;)
Great video! Thank you! I've been trying to get my candle business up and running but the testing phase with wicks is killin me! I have tried Eco, Premiere 700, CDN and CD and so far CD has been my go to but I still have issues. I feel like I have tried every single size in every single brand out there. I am using PB 600 and love the wax, but you saying tins are hard to wick and the size....I have two sizes a 8 oz tin that is 3 inches in diameter and a 4 oz that is 2.5 inch in diameter. SO far CD 3-4 is okay in the 4 oz depending on the FO, but wicking the 8 oz, im having to double wick with a CD 3 and CD 2. Both seem over wicked but burn okay. But every other wick seems to small or to large. Anyway...I appreciate the video! You guys are rockstars!
Thanks Christa! Yeah I love tins don't get me wrong, just harder to wick usually. I prefer double wicking the larger ones as well. But I also prefer using premiers in them since I have more control of sizing.
Love this video! Joy wax has always been my favorite wax. Though i've used it for 2 years, I found this video informative. Would enjoy seeing more of these!!
If adding FO@185 and pouring@140’ish and only stir until binded(30secs you say), what do you do the other 3-4mins while it cools? Let it sit? Thanks in advance! Appreciate all of your tutorials and answering of questions/comments👍💪🤜🤛
Hey Dan. The main point was that they're is lots of flexibility for various processes. I know tons of people who add fo to this wax at 160 for example. And pour helps vary too. But yes, you can stir and then let sit and cool stirring occasionally if you want
Love the collaboration...very engaging! I am brand new to this so I'm wondering when making each batch, how do you figure out how much FO to add? I know you mentioned 9% in this video but I'm not sure what that is referencing. Do you have videos that specifically discuss the amount of FO? Also, do you blend FO's and if so, how do you determine the ratios? Really appreciate your insight!
Yes check out my candle math video or any of the tutorial videos. Basically how much wax you are using times 9% . That is how much fragrance oil would be 9%
I got to ask, you guys raved about the pro blend. If I decided to just take some container soy and container paraffin and blend them in the same percentages wouldn't that just be the same thing? Or does pro blend have some additives in it or anything like that?
@Black Tie Barn store Wade Love listening to you and watching your videos, wouldn't be where I'm at with candle making if it wasn't for you (Great Mentor) Just out of curiosity are you ex military and I ask because of the soda you are not drinking? If you know what I mean you do. All the respect in the world to you.
I had to come back to this video I didn’t realize that all thoses waxes are the same I started out with soy wax pillar bless with wax melts coconut soy for wax melts I had joy wax and then I bought the makers blend I love the look of thoses 2 but there more expensive then pro blend 600 so there all pretty much the same ?? This video would have saved me lots of money a year ago 😂 the makers blend 100 I don’t have any problems with it and love the colors and the smooth top
Loved this video thank you for doing this! I have 2 to 3 fragrances that I really would love to have in my line but I do not think work well with my wax. I’m wondering if I should text them in Problend 600. I do have premier wicks. If you had a 3 1/4 diameter vessel that I double wick. Where would you start? 2 735s?
Hi Guys! I am using ceda serica apricot coconut wax. I LOVE this wax. I am a new candlemaker and I am learning so much from your channel! My Question….I heat my wax to 205, add FO and pour right away. I pour right away because according to the manufacturer directions it says pour right away….should I be letting it cool to around 160 before pouring or keeping pouring right away with ceda serica wax?
I use pro blend 600. I personally heat up to 200, then I pour into my pitcher and let it cool to 185 and add my fragrance, then I let it cool to 140/145 and pour in my candle jar
If I find a scent I really like but it doesn’t work for the wax I use, I just make them wax melts. Melts seem to be easier for scents for me. Then I can still carry the scent, just not in a candle.
great stuff as always! yes. I would love to see some starterb up kits with various waxes. Would you be able to do a video on some coco/soy waxes you've used? specifically EC26 and Coco Apricot Creme?
Getting crazy wicking it also here. I use Eco 14 and 16 wicks on pro blend 600 wax but 16 wick big flame and soot a lot in the first lit but second lit it’s better and 14 much better but leave little wax in the edge of the CS black jar 3.25” diameter. The I try zinc 51-32-18 and goes well but half of the jar the flame is kinda small . Any suggestions? Thank you
Thanks for the video! What percent of fragrance oil do you use for pro blend 600 I did 9% and it didn’t seem strong enough so I tried 10% and the cold throw seemed too strong so I’m not sure what to do
Hi Mr Wayde and Mr Matt My question is I am a beginner to candle making ,Could I use an Oval Hexagon glass jar (270ml) 9 oz to start off with and what kind of premiere 700 series would I need? Thank you so much.
I read that fragrance oils have synthetic ingredients vs essentials oils, that are made from plants. Do you know if your fragrance oils are made from synthetic materials or do you use essential oils any at all?
Here’s another question since your doing wicks too . Why do I feel like P735s are the same as P725s . In my testing with these , my 735s burned out like my 725s . I was trying to go up a tad over the 730 ?
The higher melt point materials you use the better. I don't do anything special never really had an issue. There's also a small risk when selling things that can melt but it's rarely a problem. I'll replace if or when it happens. That would still cost MUCH less than talking drastic preventative measures and hoping it works. :)
What other waxes are comparable to these waxes ? ( soy / para mix ) Say like from candle science . My closest suppliers in Ca are 16/17 , Cal Candle Supply & Candle science in Nv. TIA
I am now starting and very nervous about the testing phase. I have a 14.5 oz container with a 3.5inch diameter and a 10oz container with a 3inch container. I have problend, what size premier 700 wick should i get? TIA
I'd 2 wick the 3.5" diameter. Probably two premier 720s. But I'd get 715 through 725 and test each. The 3" you can try single wick between 775 and 785? Or double wick maybe with 710 or 715
Hello there, so I tested with the Premier 720 and I feel it's too small. Will test with the 725 and see how that works out. I tested my candle after a day and the HT on day 1 was ok(not impressed) after that no HT and my candle is brown. What did I do wrong?
@@muriel90 Yah, in that size I mostly use 720 to 730s (two of them). One wick in that jar will be too small. Just wanted to make sure you were aware it was double wick not a single wick for that jar size. Also, give your candles more than a day for the hot throw. Try again in a week. Also, fragrance oil type and amount matters. There are so many things it could be so I can't really tell you what the specific issue might be unfortunately. As far as the candle being brown, that... I have no idea. Id do some more tests and see if it conitnues.
@@BlackTieBarn Hi Wade, I double wicked with Premier 720. I will try the next 2 sizes up to see if it helps. I am thinking I did not allow it time to cure. How many days do I cure it? I read 2 weeks for all soy wax but since this is a blend. How many days do you think will give me the best results? I had a little leftover that I put in a small container and this morning CT is amazing. Will keep testing. Thank you for your advice. Much appreciated.
Hello sorry to bother you again, but where is the conference in2024, because I want to a attend. And by the way love my wicks and getting ready to place another order. @@BlackTieBarn
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Great work guys. Informative, brief, and to the point. PB 600 is a very approachable wax to work with. No drama with this one. Thanks for sharing.
No drama. Lol. Love it. Well stated
Wade, I'm just getting started and I've officially named you my MENTOR!!!! Thank you for all your awesome content!!!!
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Great collaboration!❤ I think the questions asked were good, and the answers were clear. Very helpful to newbies and a good set of reminders for more experienced makers. 😊😊😊
Thanks Jill!
This is one of the best, and most informative video I have ever seen.
Very well explained!
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Thanks so much!
I learn everytime I watch. Watched this 3 times, great collaboration!
Thanks Annie!
Great Q&A with you both!!! VERY helpful for us newbies!!! Would love to see you both do more of these. Thanks!!!
Thank you very much. Im still learning from you. This is a great video. I really appreciate it. God bless you. You are a unselfish person 😊 and like i always said. You are the best 👌
Thank you! 😀
This is great! I I have a favorite FO that I’m hell bent on nailing. I think I’ve finally got it, but I also know I can just do melts in that scent if all else fails. Hoping to launch in the Fall, but it will happen when my products are ready. Can’t rush it. Thanks for your expertise!
No problem Kelcy!
I heard from a guy who is a candle scientist and tests candles for big brands like Yankee candle who mentioned in his videos that since wax and fragrance oils are nonpolar oils, they don't bind but rather blend together. So heating up the fragrance so that they bind together is not really needed because the molecules don't actually combine in a molecular way. The way that can be done is using vybar because it is a positive polymer that will grab onto the wax and the fragrance oil molecules and keep them binded this way. He suggests just melting the wax until it melts, add the fragrance and pour cooler. He uses soy in his videos. Not sure if this applies to parrafin as he is against using parafin.
Yes that is true to a large degree and I echo the same mostly in my videos. The only caveat is that some waxes until are heated to a high enough temp stay sort of thick and do its harder to blend. So I basically just try to make sure the wax is liquid. I've never had problems. And also correct... it's more of a "blend" than a binding action. We just tend to use both words. Lol.
what is the youtube channel for that?
I am looking forward to hear how the conference was. Pls make a video. Thank you.
I will. It hasn't started yet. Just got to it. :)
This was a great video. Nice to see the two of you collaborating together! I really liked that you had Matt on, finally able to put a face to the name. I have been using Problend and Premier 700 series (thanks to your videos Wade) and I am finally about to launch Valley Grove Candles. Even though I thought I had mastered this wax I still learned some great info from this video! One question for either of y'all: Have you ever used whitening powder for FOs that might discolor a non-color dyed candle?
Thanks Jessie! I have not personally
I wasn’t able to get a decent throw from pb600, I wish I would have because it’s such a beautiful wax and not too pricy.
Yah it's great overall
I wish this video was around when I started. I would have saved so much money if I'd started with premier wicks. LX is pretty versatile too but I have a butt-ton of eco's and CD's I wasted my money on. Thank goodness for fire starters ;)
Haha. Exactly!
I'm new to candles and like your idea of beginner kits to develop product. Count me in,
thankyou both I learn so much from both of you yes fragrance oils are tricky so some I use less and some go by smell
Yep!
Great video! Thank you! I've been trying to get my candle business up and running but the testing phase with wicks is killin me! I have tried Eco, Premiere 700, CDN and CD and so far CD has been my go to but I still have issues. I feel like I have tried every single size in every single brand out there. I am using PB 600 and love the wax, but you saying tins are hard to wick and the size....I have two sizes a 8 oz tin that is 3 inches in diameter and a 4 oz that is 2.5 inch in diameter. SO far CD 3-4 is okay in the 4 oz depending on the FO, but wicking the 8 oz, im having to double wick with a CD 3 and CD 2. Both seem over wicked but burn okay. But every other wick seems to small or to large. Anyway...I appreciate the video! You guys are rockstars!
Thanks Christa! Yeah I love tins don't get me wrong, just harder to wick usually. I prefer double wicking the larger ones as well. But I also prefer using premiers in them since I have more control of sizing.
Same here girl!! 🤯
I love 8 to 10 oz jars but still can’t figure it out yet. Love PB 600 wax and trying with Eco and zinc wicks … 😭
Wade....Thanks for this valuable video.👌
No problem!
Really enjoyed this. Thanks for all the great info
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Love this video! Joy wax has always been my favorite wax. Though i've used it for 2 years, I found this video informative. Would enjoy seeing more of these!!
Awesome. Thanks susan!
Great informative video, not really the waxes I use but still learned a few more tidbits.
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Great collaborationMr Wade love your Videos they are very informative .
If adding FO@185 and pouring@140’ish and only stir until binded(30secs you say), what do you do the other 3-4mins while it cools? Let it sit? Thanks in advance! Appreciate all of your tutorials and answering of questions/comments👍💪🤜🤛
Hey Dan. The main point was that they're is lots of flexibility for various processes. I know tons of people who add fo to this wax at 160 for example. And pour helps vary too. But yes, you can stir and then let sit and cool stirring occasionally if you want
Excellent video! Loads of helpful info. Kits are a good idea.
Very useful information. Thanks Wade and Matt 🌿🥀🌿
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Got my answer at the end.
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Interesting...even for a wax melt maker like myself. Thanks.
Love the collaboration...very engaging! I am brand new to this so I'm wondering when making each batch, how do you figure out how much FO to add? I know you mentioned 9% in this video but I'm not sure what that is referencing. Do you have videos that specifically discuss the amount of FO? Also, do you blend FO's and if so, how do you determine the ratios? Really appreciate your insight!
Yes check out my candle math video or any of the tutorial videos. Basically how much wax you are using times 9% . That is how much fragrance oil would be 9%
I got to ask, you guys raved about the pro blend. If I decided to just take some container soy and container paraffin and blend them in the same percentages wouldn't that just be the same thing? Or does pro blend have some additives in it or anything like that?
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Wade Love listening to you and watching your videos, wouldn't be where I'm at with candle making if it wasn't for you (Great Mentor) Just out of curiosity are you ex military and I ask because of the soda you are not drinking? If you know what I mean you do. All the respect in the world to you.
Hey Brent. Thanks so much. But no I am not. Not too sure what is mean. Ha. But again thank you
Yes interested in kits for beginners.
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I had to come back to this video I didn’t realize that all thoses waxes are the same I started out with soy wax pillar bless with wax melts coconut soy for wax melts I had joy wax and then I bought the makers blend I love the look of thoses 2 but there more expensive then pro blend 600 so there all pretty much the same ?? This video would have saved me lots of money a year ago 😂 the makers blend 100 I don’t have any problems with it and love the colors and the smooth top
Loved this video thank you for doing this! I have 2 to 3 fragrances that I really would love to have in my line but I do not think work well with my wax. I’m wondering if I should text them in Problend 600. I do have premier wicks. If you had a 3 1/4 diameter vessel that I double wick. Where would you start? 2 735s?
I would start at double 715 and go up or down based on that test
@@Historycandles thank you for the help I just joined the group
I'd agree. Two 715s is a great start
@@BlackTieBarn I’ll check if I have that size if not I’ll order from yoh
Hi Guys! I am using ceda serica apricot coconut wax. I LOVE this wax. I am a new candlemaker and I am learning so much from your channel! My Question….I heat my wax to 205, add FO and pour right away. I pour right away because according to the manufacturer directions it says pour right away….should I be letting it cool to around 160 before pouring or keeping pouring right away with ceda serica wax?
I use pro blend 600. I personally heat up to 200, then I pour into my pitcher and let it cool to 185 and add my fragrance, then I let it cool to 140/145 and pour in my candle jar
Premier wicks sound awesome but I use C3 wax and so far I found it favors CD, cdn, or eco 😢
Yep totally depends on wax of course. I haven't used them in c3 so I don't know for sure. But they do work well in a variety of wax types
If I find a scent I really like but it doesn’t work for the wax I use, I just make them wax melts. Melts seem to be easier for scents for me. Then I can still carry the scent, just not in a candle.
Exactly
great stuff as always! yes. I would love to see some starterb up kits with various waxes. Would you be able to do a video on some coco/soy waxes you've used? specifically EC26 and Coco Apricot Creme?
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Getting crazy wicking it also here. I use Eco 14 and 16 wicks on pro blend 600 wax but 16 wick big flame and soot a lot in the first lit but second lit it’s better and 14 much better but leave little wax in the edge of the CS black jar 3.25” diameter. The I try zinc 51-32-18 and goes well but half of the jar the flame is kinda small . Any suggestions? Thank you
Thanks for the video! What percent of fragrance oil do you use for pro blend 600 I did 9% and it didn’t seem strong enough so I tried 10% and the cold throw seemed too strong so I’m not sure what to do
question for you do you know anything about sand wax ? I've used alot of waxes I still like apricot coconut wax thanks for yr thoughts I learned alot
Sorry Kathleen I do not. And thank you. :)
Hi Mr Wayde and Mr Matt
My question is I am a beginner to candle making ,Could I use an Oval Hexagon glass jar (270ml) 9 oz to start off with and what kind of premiere 700 series would I need? Thank you so much.
Thank you
You're welcome!
Great video…Can you use Premier 700 with coconut 83 or Coco bright #11 wax?
Yes I know plenty who use it with Coco 83. I haven't really used the other much
@@BlackTieBarn thank you!
I read that fragrance oils have synthetic ingredients vs essentials oils, that are made from plants. Do you know if your fragrance oils are made from synthetic materials or do you use essential oils any at all?
Thank you.
Beeswax is best for melts with some coconut oil
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What size premier 700 series wick would you use with pro blend 600 and 9 oz. straight sided jars?
I'd start either premier 730 and adjust up or down as needed
I would like to join the Joy Wax FB group but can’t find it. Do you still run that group? would you mind to share the link? Thank you
Here’s another question since your doing wicks too . Why do I feel like P735s are the same as P725s . In my testing with these , my 735s burned out like my 725s . I was trying to go up a tad over the 730 ?
Not sure. They are definitely not the same but since they are close, depending on fragrance and jar the differences might be small.
Thanks Wade, the jar and fragrance were the same , playing with the 3 wick tumbler 😁
How do you ship in the summer without everything melting? Especially if you use embeds?
The higher melt point materials you use the better. I don't do anything special never really had an issue. There's also a small risk when selling things that can melt but it's rarely a problem. I'll replace if or when it happens. That would still cost MUCH less than talking drastic preventative measures and hoping it works. :)
I noticed little sweet on top of problend 600 wax but it’s only 8% FO . Should I lower the FO? That’s happen to you guys with 8% FO?
It's probably just sweating a touch from room temp or humidity
What CD wick is recommended for a 3.3 diameter 12oz salsa jar?
What does “wick up” mean? Go with a thicker wick?
Is it possible to put 464 on top of this wax to make a whipped candle?
What other waxes are comparable to these waxes ? ( soy / para mix ) Say like from candle science . My closest suppliers in Ca are 16/17 , Cal Candle Supply & Candle science in Nv. TIA
These are the only ones like these in my opinion. Candle Science doesn't have a similar one. I'd day maybe bw910 is the closest but it's still not.
So can you visually how thick a FO is when you pour it?
Not really. I mean if it's super thick I guess. But even then... doesn't necessarily mean it will impact wicking until you test
Is ProBlend 650 and Pillar of Bliss the same as well?
I am now starting and very nervous about the testing phase. I have a 14.5 oz container with a 3.5inch diameter and a 10oz container with a 3inch container. I have problend, what size premier 700 wick should i get? TIA
I'd 2 wick the 3.5" diameter. Probably two premier 720s. But I'd get 715 through 725 and test each.
The 3" you can try single wick between 775 and 785?
Or double wick maybe with 710 or 715
@@BlackTieBarn thank you so much for responding and the advice. Ordering some from you now. Very much appreciated.
Hello there, so I tested with the Premier 720 and I feel it's too small. Will test with the 725 and see how that works out.
I tested my candle after a day and the HT on day 1 was ok(not impressed) after that no HT and my candle is brown. What did I do wrong?
@@muriel90 Yah, in that size I mostly use 720 to 730s (two of them). One wick in that jar will be too small. Just wanted to make sure you were aware it was double wick not a single wick for that jar size. Also, give your candles more than a day for the hot throw. Try again in a week. Also, fragrance oil type and amount matters. There are so many things it could be so I can't really tell you what the specific issue might be unfortunately. As far as the candle being brown, that... I have no idea. Id do some more tests and see if it conitnues.
@@BlackTieBarn Hi Wade, I double wicked with Premier 720. I will try the next 2 sizes up to see if it helps. I am thinking I did not allow it time to cure. How many days do I cure it? I read 2 weeks for all soy wax but since this is a blend. How many days do you think will give me the best results? I had a little leftover that I put in a small container and this morning CT is amazing. Will keep testing.
Thank you for your advice. Much appreciated.
I'm sorry were you guys saying you can buy pro blend 600 from other distributors but it's just called something else?
Yes! Midwest Fragrance has Makers Blend 100 and Natures Garden has Joy Wax. They are the same
@@Historycandles Ok thank you so much;)
Yep. What Matt said. :)
@@BlackTieBarn thanks Wade:)
Is the conference in Charleston SC? Because I want to attend a candle conference.
That was last year. It moves around
Hello sorry to bother you again, but where is the conference in2024, because I want to a attend. And by the way love my wicks and getting ready to place another order. @@BlackTieBarn
Whaat do u do in summer monthsor it not to melt
Which diameter is the one the outside or inside diameter of the jar?
Do you guys like libby status jars... 12oz or 8oz.
That look nice. At times can be hard to wick, particularly the 12oz ones. But yes they are popular and common
Interested in kit
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Can I use vybar also?
Sure. Just test
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Is this a soy wax?