It's heavily implied in the prequels that either Palpatine or Darth Plagueis used the force to create the immaculate conception in Shmei Skywalker. "He could use the midichlorians to create... (glances intensely at anakin) LIFE" So like... the Skywalker and Palpatine family trees MIGHT have some overlap!
I dunno man that reeks of stuff like the Evil Jarjar theory where everyone is looking for little tidbits in a poorly put together movie to make it seem like Lucas knew what he was doing.
Brady (5:30): Bringing back the emperor really cuts the legs out from under that moment. Vader probably: Come on man, did you really have to use that exact wording?!
I'm in Bradyland, so come the 26th and i'm thinking that they had forgotten, i was especially convinced of this as they had just released an episode. but come noon there it was. Merry Xmas, Tim.
Is that why all those stormtroopers have a clear burnhole that directly lines up with their heart? Right totally seems like that energy blast was evenly distributed across this armour and totally did not incinerate this poor hapless stormtrooper's heart. In the original movies that explanation actually works because, for the most part, they do not show stormtroopers lying quite clearly dead in quite clearly compromised armour because CGI was not a thing and budgets were much smaller so creating two sets of armour every time you need a dead stormtrooper was not an option.
That lore turns the Jedi into psychotic murderers. Their "elegant weapon for a more civilized age" is the sword that chops you into charred hunks of meat instead of sending you off to nappy time.
As someone that couldn't give a fuck about star wars, it's been really interesting listening to your journey from 'cautious excitement' for new movies to 'thank God it's over and I don't have to care anymore'.
Kylo didn't just get his arse handed to him by sith dudes. I think they were trying to establish that they were his Knights of Ren. So he was being beat up by the guys he trained up to be his entourage. Which was something else that could have been cool if it was done correctly.
It's not that people don't like Dynerass turning evil at the end it's that it was so poorly done. If it were well done it would have been great but the show just went to shits at the end
I just watched the one from 2014 this morning and now I get a second star wars podcast in the same day with the same wonderful people this is wonderful.
People were not upset about Dany being evil in game of thrones, more that it wasn't earned at all. Rey can be evil we just need to see the progression. I think that would be cool, let her battle "force sensitive" Finn.
Yeah I agree. The directors of GoT don't know how to write. Given the ending of The Last Jedi, I doubt they could have written a turn to the dark side very well, so having her go the good route was fine.
Jason Martin I think they were doing a great job of showing that when she really wanted to win she’d give into her rage and how she always wanted to do it herself and go her own way but then they ruined all of it when she healed Kylo/Ben. If they had her go against the emperor with no help no one to turn to, the way she kinda wanted it that would of been good and then she could be turned by the people coming to help her cause and then all the Jedi stuff happens
I would much rather have seen Rey die and Ben live. I see so much more potentially interesting storytelling in having someone like Ben, who has fallen and then return to the light, be the the one who has to rebuilt the Jedi (or whatever we might end up calling it) while also dealing with the fallout of his past and mistakes. I can just see him so easily in that final scene on Tatoine. The nod from his mother and Luke, add in Anakin's force ghost as well for that tie back to Ben wanting to emulate his grandfather and Ben proudly declaring himself as Ben Skywalker (as opposed to the Rey name stealing, seriously girl deal with your own damn heritage, dont steal someone else's). Later appearances of Ben could have him in a cloak with a mask, a less frightening one, as he now has to hide his identity due to his past instead of how he tried to emulate Vader. Why must all redeemed sith die instantly? Why cant we for once explore their attempts at penance and how they deal with their past?
Jacob how would they have him live though? He just pops up out of the hole after Reg and The Emperor fight and walks off to rebuild the Jedi? It was gonna be really hard to have Ben play a big role in the final fight and have Rey kill The Emperor and die then have Ben show up as the last hope(or the rising skywalker)
@@crunchytoast6007 The fact that Ben already did not play a big role in the final fight after three movies and his redemption is a massive problem already and annoys me a lot. Fixing it is something i would want done even without the change as to who survives. In fact, if one wants to get really specific here, the best choice Rey could have made would have been to only show the way to the Sith planet, but never land. Without Rey and Ben there to restore him Palpatine would have remained weakened and the Resistance fleet + reinforcements could have won the battle and bombed the temple at leisure. But getting into the countless stupidities and mistakes of the movies is something I could spend house on.
The "transferring life" thing is totally videogame logic. She heals the snake, her health bar goes down a little... later on she can gain more health, her health bar can go up and down, but once it hits 0%, she's dead. They say they're free from Sar Wars now, but I hope they get to see The Mandalorian, I reckon they'll like it a lot more than these films. The baby Yoda character in that can force heal too. He's a little baby so he passes out after having used the force extensively. 01:25:00 "which, y'know, makes it sound like this is part of the creepy part of the internet where rule 42 exists..." You mean rule 34. Rule 42 of the internet is "nothing is sacred"... so maybe it works out? (edit - I made a typo of rule 34 as rule 32 like an idiot who needs his "correcting the mistakes of others" licence revoked)
Gray betrays his Americanness when he starts explaining how stupid the movie is with a football and shotguns metaphor. You sure you aren't from Texas? lol
(1:00:00) In regards to force healing and talking to BB-8. BB-8 does do the same thing when he gives some of his power to DIO (I think that was 1-wheel droid's name) so it does serve as a nice payoff for that (in a movie with so few payoffs).
Merry Christmas gentlemen 🎅Appreciate your honesty and candor a lot. I've seen it a few times now and honestly I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I love how it references not only the other Saga films but ancillary, animated and even Legends material making this film Star Wars AF to me 🤘😜 Not sorry for liking it but have nothing but compassion for those who are really unhappy about it ✌😌
(1:25:00) Regarding the Sith people in the stadium seating. It was explained (very briefly) in the beginning of the movie that the Emperor had created a Sith/Emperor cult of some sort at some point. It is assumed that this Sith cult revived the Emperor from death, built all of these Death Star ships, and made all of the Snoke clones. How do these people live on this planet that is basically all rocks? Where do they get the resources and research to make these ships? How did they find/revive the Emperor? How did they get to the planet without a Sith way finder (because we were told there were only two left and you needed because of the "Gravity Wells" and "Space Storms")? Who knows (because movie that's how). I really don't want to nitpick but it really feels like there was no plan (like they say in the video).
They are related though. Anakin's "miracle birth" was made real by Palpatine in the first place making the skywalker bloodline related to palpatine so yeah, incest.
As much as I love Hello Internet and Grey and Brady, the "oh so now we're acknowledging the Prequels exist" line and sentiment really annoys me. They never decanonized them and always treated them as canon, but it's like Grey is keeping some delusion that they decanonized them. It's bizarre.
on the subject of the medal, when i first seen it i kinda had the reaction everyone else had, that this was a nod to the "chewie didn't get a medal" meme, but when i thought about it some more i think the medal was han's medal from a new hope. it makes sense that leia would have the medal, and it makes sense she would want to give it to chewie after her death, and grey mentioning she was holding it when she accidentally killed her son kinda lends credence to that...that was her reminder of han.
The end of Return of the Jedi is still powerful because it's Vader's decision to save his son and defy his master. It really has less to do with Palaptine's death, and more of Vader's 11th hour move to redemption.
it means rey is the chosen one,thing is anakin earned that he had suffered sooo much losing his hand,his family twice , while rey has not the universe shifted to conform to her wants
The biggest slap in the face to the last Jedi is Rey Palpatine. Big thematic point of TLJ was that the force can manifest in anyone, and it sets up Rey as an excellent foil to the dynastic power of Ben Solo.
Yea, pretty much guys. 1 note, when Luke is fighting on that red sand planet i dont remember the name of, he is just force projecting himself, that's why he cant get hit. It is like a hologram. You'll notice if you watch the film again it is obvious he isnt there because the sand doesn't move under his feet.
Probably when the C3PO scene was filmed, originally, the script had it as a temporary wipe, and C3PO said "It's ok R2 has a backup." Hence no real reaction. They later changed the dialogue to make it a 'permanent' wipe but didnt refilm any reactions.
I think Disney had an intended end point for the trilogy, just no roadmap for how to actually get there. So each director went with their vision of how to get to the final confrontation, but they had such different ideas that it was impossible for them to coexist peacefully in the same trilogy.
The Force Healing is not really that new. It existed in the now Non-Cannon extended Universe books, was theoretically a part of the Sith powers to extend life and prevent death talked about in the prequels, and it was introduced in the Mandalorian series.
Dany turning evil is not what pissed people off. What pissed people off was the fact that she turned Hitler because of a bell ringing without any setup.
should of said it was a starforge ( i think it is from Knights of the old Republic) that could make that many ships but should of been crew with clones from the prequels
I agree, but it did at least make Revan canon by name, one of the Sith Trooper(the red cool looking ones that have less than a minute of screen-time) Battalions was the Revan Battalion.
I honestly loved the movie. I think the other idea 3PO came up with would have been to change the name of the language in his directory or something so that he can translate because his system would Not recognize it as Sith.
obviously the main problem with this movie is that the last jedi didnt do anything well to set it up, had they just given all three movies to jj abrams, this could have been a great trilogy
Or, use a third director with a better plan for the whole trilogy like grey said, or have johnson make the third one too, so at least he could actually make a movie that would follow what he setup in the second one.
Regarding the blood/death in the movie in think you guys are forgetting when Kylo Ren slams the dismembered alien rebel informant's head on the First Order conference table.
This is kids movie, theres no blood in star wars, there are snakes in the dagobah system, also it's a kids movie. In kids shows the bad guys are the bad guys, and the plot is very linear. It's a kids movie, it's made by Disney. Characters cant die, kids hate that, ITS A KIDS MOVIE
Light skipping is just a continuation of what the falcon did in TFA to get by statkiller bases defenses isn't it? Light skipping into the planets atmosphere?
David Morales I don't think ta that they were doing it in atmosphere it's that they were doing it with out any sort of calculations. In A New Hope Han makes it very clear that you can't just jump to light speed Willy Nilly.
1:36:00 they get a lot more people because they aren’t on the defensive, this is the one chance they all have to fight back and win so people are motivated to come out. Everyone want to be in the winning team
Why hate the fact Clone Troopers were the predecessors of Stromtroopers? I mean what did people expect, it's called the Clone Wars since 1977, I'm surprised they weren't clones the first first.
I feel your pain, sharing this on the internet. I totally agree. 1 felt like a rehash, 2 was weird but very interesting in its "fuck nostalgia, lets challenge preconceived ideas about this world, legends are not made by a name but by actions" and 3 just... badly disagreed and try to one up everything until it blew up in its face.
I just pretend this sequel trilogy never existed, and RO was the great star wars film we got out of disney. That's it. That solves this whole problem. TFA, TLJ, and ROS and Solo are just fan fiction. Problem solved.
I felt the exact same nothingness Grey described. My expectations were so low after The Last Jedi that the stupid stuff Rise of Skywalker did didn't even surprise me or make me feel anything. Seeing it felt like getting lunch with an old friend whose life fell apart and you stopped hanging out with them long ago. You are just there out of a sense of obligation and maybe some morbid curiosity, but you don't really care what they have to say anymore.
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The only reason Disney is pumping out these movies so fast, year after year,
is so we can have special podcast episodes like this one.
Thank you Disney 🥳
If only
Today I watched this movie just to listen this podcast :)
It's heavily implied in the prequels that either Palpatine or Darth Plagueis used the force to create the immaculate conception in Shmei Skywalker.
"He could use the midichlorians to create... (glances intensely at anakin) LIFE"
So like... the Skywalker and Palpatine family trees MIGHT have some overlap!
Please make a star wars animal tier list
Rey and Ben are first-cousins once-removed.
TEIR ZOO! I didn't expect you to be a Hello Internet fan! Love ur vids and keep maining pit!
I dunno man that reeks of stuff like the Evil Jarjar theory where everyone is looking for little tidbits in a poorly put together movie to make it seem like Lucas knew what he was doing.
Immaculate conception means to be born without inheriting original sin.
Immaculate conception has never meant virgin birth.
18:34 "Mark Hamill turns directly to the camera and says..."
LOL my favorite part 😂
"the most isolated planet in the world" -cgp grey
Hmmm...
Old comment, but "world" =/= planet.
Brady (5:30): Bringing back the emperor really cuts the legs out from under that moment.
Vader probably: Come on man, did you really have to use that exact wording?!
Probably Maul too
Someone make a clip of Grey saying anyone sounds dumb if you play dumb music under them talking and play dumb music under it
Sorry, im late: th-cam.com/video/vV0_qy4Jpco/w-d-xo.html
@@supersalino2523 not quite what i was expecting
@@UREALERO "Curb Your Enthusiasm" theme song is the one he refers to. Since this song had a meme related to it, I decided to make the edit.
im stupid anyways
There is no christmas without these movie discussions.
Well, it's the last one.
I'm in Bradyland, so come the 26th and i'm thinking that they had forgotten, i was especially convinced of this as they had just released an episode. but come noon there it was. Merry Xmas, Tim.
@@JustOneAsbesto The last Christmas?
Don't think they have done one for the Solo movie?
At 1:55:00, you have spent 1:50:00 more time thinking about the story than the writers.
Stormtroopers aren't wearing armor. It's a uniform
"Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" "Huh! Oh, the uniform."
Working overnight as a news editor on Christmas, these episodes get me through the shift. Thanks for doing them, gentlemen.
Merry Christmas to all the Tims!
Finn and Poe had chemistry. Loved them together.
When a stormtrooper gets shot, the armor evenly spreads the damage, so rather than dying, they just get knocked out.
Good theoru
Tim Wenger it is lore not a theory
That’s cool I didn’t know that
Is that why all those stormtroopers have a clear burnhole that directly lines up with their heart? Right totally seems like that energy blast was evenly distributed across this armour and totally did not incinerate this poor hapless stormtrooper's heart.
In the original movies that explanation actually works because, for the most part, they do not show stormtroopers lying quite clearly dead in quite clearly compromised armour because CGI was not a thing and budgets were much smaller so creating two sets of armour every time you need a dead stormtrooper was not an option.
That lore turns the Jedi into psychotic murderers. Their "elegant weapon for a more civilized age" is the sword that chops you into charred hunks of meat instead of sending you off to nappy time.
As someone that couldn't give a fuck about star wars, it's been really interesting listening to your journey from 'cautious excitement' for new movies to 'thank God it's over and I don't have to care anymore'.
Every single snowflake is some 8-fold symmetrical lie.
Not quite. They're taller than they are wide... By like four pixel/heart/knit things, too.
I genuinely identified with the final word. "We're free, Brady. We're finally free."
55:49 Brady sums up 70% of everything I've been wondering about movies, TV shows, and videogames.
they should've gone with the Thrawn trilogy
When grey gives the movie a 0/10 because the new republic uses first past the post
I only watched the movie so I could listen to this podcast.
Kylo didn't just get his arse handed to him by sith dudes. I think they were trying to establish that they were his Knights of Ren. So he was being beat up by the guys he trained up to be his entourage. Which was something else that could have been cool if it was done correctly.
Merry Timsmas
You forgot the best cameo, Denis Lawson as Wedge Antilles! Frickin' Rogue Leader back for a single line.
It's not that people don't like Dynerass turning evil at the end it's that it was so poorly done. If it were well done it would have been great but the show just went to shits at the end
I´m done binge-listening the Podcast in the Span of two month now, thanks for the Years of Content
I just watched the one from 2014 this morning and now I get a second star wars podcast in the same day with the same wonderful people this is wonderful.
You two giving John Williams credit made me happy [:
People were not upset about Dany being evil in game of thrones, more that it wasn't earned at all. Rey can be evil we just need to see the progression. I think that would be cool, let her battle "force sensitive" Finn.
Yeah I agree. The directors of GoT don't know how to write. Given the ending of The Last Jedi, I doubt they could have written a turn to the dark side very well, so having her go the good route was fine.
Jason Martin I think they were doing a great job of showing that when she really wanted to win she’d give into her rage and how she always wanted to do it herself and go her own way but then they ruined all of it when she healed Kylo/Ben. If they had her go against the emperor with no help no one to turn to, the way she kinda wanted it that would of been good and then she could be turned by the people coming to help her cause and then all the Jedi stuff happens
I would much rather have seen Rey die and Ben live. I see so much more potentially interesting storytelling in having someone like Ben, who has fallen and then return to the light, be the the one who has to rebuilt the Jedi (or whatever we might end up calling it) while also dealing with the fallout of his past and mistakes.
I can just see him so easily in that final scene on Tatoine. The nod from his mother and Luke, add in Anakin's force ghost as well for that tie back to Ben wanting to emulate his grandfather and Ben proudly declaring himself as Ben Skywalker (as opposed to the Rey name stealing, seriously girl deal with your own damn heritage, dont steal someone else's).
Later appearances of Ben could have him in a cloak with a mask, a less frightening one, as he now has to hide his identity due to his past instead of how he tried to emulate Vader.
Why must all redeemed sith die instantly? Why cant we for once explore their attempts at penance and how they deal with their past?
Jacob how would they have him live though? He just pops up out of the hole after Reg and The Emperor fight and walks off to rebuild the Jedi? It was gonna be really hard to have Ben play a big role in the final fight and have Rey kill The Emperor and die then have Ben show up as the last hope(or the rising skywalker)
@@crunchytoast6007 The fact that Ben already did not play a big role in the final fight after three movies and his redemption is a massive problem already and annoys me a lot. Fixing it is something i would want done even without the change as to who survives.
In fact, if one wants to get really specific here, the best choice Rey could have made would have been to only show the way to the Sith planet, but never land. Without Rey and Ben there to restore him Palpatine would have remained weakened and the Resistance fleet + reinforcements could have won the battle and bombed the temple at leisure.
But getting into the countless stupidities and mistakes of the movies is something I could spend house on.
Anyone else see the jar of Snokes and burst out laughing?
and this is how Star Wars die with thunderous applause from new trilogy fanatics.
The Mandalorian, you're our only hope.
The "transferring life" thing is totally videogame logic. She heals the snake, her health bar goes down a little... later on she can gain more health, her health bar can go up and down, but once it hits 0%, she's dead.
They say they're free from Sar Wars now, but I hope they get to see The Mandalorian, I reckon they'll like it a lot more than these films. The baby Yoda character in that can force heal too. He's a little baby so he passes out after having used the force extensively.
01:25:00 "which, y'know, makes it sound like this is part of the creepy part of the internet where rule 42 exists..."
You mean rule 34. Rule 42 of the internet is "nothing is sacred"... so maybe it works out?
(edit - I made a typo of rule 34 as rule 32 like an idiot who needs his "correcting the mistakes of others" licence revoked)
Rade-Blunner isn’t it rule 34
@@NotFound-bg4sr yep, that's embarassing. I know that of course, writing 42 just beforehand messed with me me while typing.
The thread running through most reviews is the total lack of planning.
Gray betrays his Americanness when he starts explaining how stupid the movie is with a football and shotguns metaphor. You sure you aren't from Texas? lol
The perfect Christmas gift, love the podcast
(1:00:00) In regards to force healing and talking to BB-8. BB-8 does do the same thing when he gives some of his power to DIO (I think that was 1-wheel droid's name) so it does serve as a nice payoff for that (in a movie with so few payoffs).
Merry Christmas gentlemen 🎅Appreciate your honesty and candor a lot. I've seen it a few times now and honestly I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I love how it references not only the other Saga films but ancillary, animated and even Legends material making this film Star Wars AF to me 🤘😜 Not sorry for liking it but have nothing but compassion for those who are really unhappy about it ✌😌
Merry Christmas you two! I've been waiting for this
Grey I’ve been waiting for this for three years
I can see these snow flakes only as the sides of tie fighters.
(1:25:00) Regarding the Sith people in the stadium seating. It was explained (very briefly) in the beginning of the movie that the Emperor had created a Sith/Emperor cult of some sort at some point. It is assumed that this Sith cult revived the Emperor from death, built all of these Death Star ships, and made all of the Snoke clones.
How do these people live on this planet that is basically all rocks? Where do they get the resources and research to make these ships? How did they find/revive the Emperor? How did they get to the planet without a Sith way finder (because we were told there were only two left and you needed because of the "Gravity Wells" and "Space Storms")? Who knows (because movie that's how). I really don't want to nitpick but it really feels like there was no plan (like they say in the video).
The Star Destroyers missing the rebel ships is a homage to “Pulp Fiction”.
The rebel fleet showed up late because they were in the bathroom.
Chewie got Han's medal, not his own to make up for not giving him one in IV.
24:39 "The most isolated planet in the world" -Grey
Wait... what? 🤨
They are related though. Anakin's "miracle birth" was made real by Palpatine in the first place making the skywalker bloodline related to palpatine so yeah, incest.
It's like Disney bought StarWars assuming it would just print money without having to actually put thought and care into it.
As much as I love Hello Internet and Grey and Brady, the "oh so now we're acknowledging the Prequels exist" line and sentiment really annoys me. They never decanonized them and always treated them as canon, but it's like Grey is keeping some delusion that they decanonized them. It's bizarre.
on the subject of the medal, when i first seen it i kinda had the reaction everyone else had, that this was a nod to the "chewie didn't get a medal" meme, but when i thought about it some more i think the medal was han's medal from a new hope. it makes sense that leia would have the medal, and it makes sense she would want to give it to chewie after her death, and grey mentioning she was holding it when she accidentally killed her son kinda lends credence to that...that was her reminder of han.
The question of force healing and why Jedi can do it and Sith can't is actually well explored territory in Legends.
The end of Return of the Jedi is still powerful because it's Vader's decision to save his son and defy his master. It really has less to do with Palaptine's death, and more of Vader's 11th hour move to redemption.
it means rey is the chosen one,thing is anakin earned that he had suffered sooo much losing his hand,his family twice , while rey has not the universe shifted to conform to her wants
Never seen a single SW movie but still listening.
My man how?
I envy you.
The stardestroyers didn't have people on them. Some first order general mentioned how they need to up recruitment to staff them.
who else is realizing that just a few months(ish) before quarantine was when the rise of skywalker was released?
Hope they do an episode on the Dune movie next Christmas
This makes me nostalgic for when you could go to the cinema.
The biggest slap in the face to the last Jedi is Rey Palpatine. Big thematic point of TLJ was that the force can manifest in anyone, and it sets up Rey as an excellent foil to the dynastic power of Ben Solo.
Yea, pretty much guys. 1 note, when Luke is fighting on that red sand planet i dont remember the name of, he is just force projecting himself, that's why he cant get hit. It is like a hologram. You'll notice if you watch the film again it is obvious he isnt there because the sand doesn't move under his feet.
Behold all ye of little faith.
Probably when the C3PO scene was filmed, originally, the script had it as a temporary wipe, and C3PO said "It's ok R2 has a backup." Hence no real reaction. They later changed the dialogue to make it a 'permanent' wipe but didnt refilm any reactions.
I think Disney had an intended end point for the trilogy, just no roadmap for how to actually get there. So each director went with their vision of how to get to the final confrontation, but they had such different ideas that it was impossible for them to coexist peacefully in the same trilogy.
The Force Healing is not really that new. It existed in the now Non-Cannon extended Universe books, was theoretically a part of the Sith powers to extend life and prevent death talked about in the prequels, and it was introduced in the Mandalorian series.
Dany turning evil is not what pissed people off. What pissed people off was the fact that she turned Hitler because of a bell ringing without any setup.
Best Christmas gift!
This is even more entertaining to me than the Red Letter Media's Half in the Bag and Plinkett reviews.
Merry Christmas Tims!
Maaaaaaaan I was just about to go to sleep, too. @.@
Grey did you watch the clone wars tv show?
Star Wars: The Clone Wars are the plutonic ideal of star wars
ze b *PLATONIC. Plutonium is an element.
@@Ekvitarius
Plutonium is awsome.
Of course, he did not, he appalls the existence of the Prequels
@@inkedseahear it is still a good show even if you hate rhe prequels.
should of said it was a starforge ( i think it is from Knights of the old Republic) that could make that many ships but should of been crew with clones from the prequels
I agree, but it did at least make Revan canon by name, one of the Sith Trooper(the red cool looking ones that have less than a minute of screen-time) Battalions was the Revan Battalion.
This is my favourite Christmas Present
40:32 Baby Yoda would like to have a word Brady
I honestly loved the movie. I think the other idea 3PO came up with would have been to change the name of the language in his directory or something so that he can translate because his system would Not recognize it as Sith.
obviously the main problem with this movie is that the last jedi didnt do anything well to set it up, had they just given all three movies to jj abrams, this could have been a great trilogy
Or, use a third director with a better plan for the whole trilogy like grey said, or have johnson make the third one too, so at least he could actually make a movie that would follow what he setup in the second one.
The hypnotizing background continue.
Merry Christmas
Regarding the blood/death in the movie in think you guys are forgetting when Kylo Ren slams the dismembered alien rebel informant's head on the First Order conference table.
Aliens arent considered people. Carve them up however you want, as long as they dont look too much like humans it wont affect the age rating.
This is kids movie, theres no blood in star wars, there are snakes in the dagobah system, also it's a kids movie. In kids shows the bad guys are the bad guys, and the plot is very linear. It's a kids movie, it's made by Disney. Characters cant die, kids hate that, ITS A KIDS MOVIE
The light speed jumping was established in Force Awakens by Han
I’m pretty sure the only blood we have ever seen in Star Wars was Ponda Baba’s Arm
HI Christmas is the best
Ok so there WAS a plan for the films that JJ came up with, but Rian, when he directed TLJ, completely ignored JJ’s plan.
Light skipping is just a continuation of what the falcon did in TFA to get by statkiller bases defenses isn't it? Light skipping into the planets atmosphere?
David Morales I don't think ta that they were doing it in atmosphere it's that they were doing it with out any sort of calculations. In A New Hope Han makes it very clear that you can't just jump to light speed Willy Nilly.
The movie was about Rey finding her identity. Nothing else mattered so most other things suffered.
D0 (new droid) is the best character in the whole movie.
KONO D-0 DA!
Disney definitely had a plan. But then Rian Johnson threw it out the window and Disney went "Ok, sure"
1:36:00 they get a lot more people because they aren’t on the defensive, this is the one chance they all have to fight back and win so people are motivated to come out. Everyone want to be in the winning team
As well as this being a Video Game movie I was also aware ahhh that’s for the Toys like the Helmet totally hit me as toy thing
Made my day
thank for this present!
That was my feeling, when watching the last two. I think, I'm not gonna go to see this one. Nothing
Why hate the fact Clone Troopers were the predecessors of Stromtroopers? I mean what did people expect, it's called the Clone Wars since 1977, I'm surprised they weren't clones the first first.
paper cheese
Best present ever
I assumed the healing power was an innate Sith power of Rey because Rise of Skywalker thinks Lamarck was right.
Last Jedi was deeply flawed, but it's my favorite of the new trilogy just because it at least *tried* to do something interesting with the property.
I feel your pain, sharing this on the internet. I totally agree. 1 felt like a rehash, 2 was weird but very interesting in its "fuck nostalgia, lets challenge preconceived ideas about this world, legends are not made by a name but by actions" and 3 just... badly disagreed and try to one up everything until it blew up in its face.
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Spend 4 billion on a Franchise and might have a billion, maybe. Still three billion in the hole.
I just pretend this sequel trilogy never existed, and RO was the great star wars film we got out of disney.
That's it. That solves this whole problem.
TFA, TLJ, and ROS and Solo are just fan fiction. Problem solved.
Down with Disney Wars! Long live Star Wars.
Same. Rogue one wasnt amazing but it didnt ruin anything in the og trilogy and was fun. The rest isnt real
I felt the exact same nothingness Grey described. My expectations were so low after The Last Jedi that the stupid stuff Rise of Skywalker did didn't even surprise me or make me feel anything. Seeing it felt like getting lunch with an old friend whose life fell apart and you stopped hanging out with them long ago. You are just there out of a sense of obligation and maybe some morbid curiosity, but you don't really care what they have to say anymore.
I'm so glad that of all the sequels I've only seen Rogue 1.
The best one
Rogue One is a prequel.
- A Pedant ;)
@@asphaltpilgrim Good point, now I can go back to saying I haven't seen the sequels. Merry Christmas fellow tim.
@@TheGreatSteve Merry Christmas to you too. :)
Catharsis. Thank you.
29:50 i always thought that too
The movie was so inconsequential I didn't even realize I hadn't seen the movie until ~halfway through