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Hard to believe there are younger Tennessee fans that don’t know to hate Alabama. So many consecutive losses to one school should engender its own hatred, separate from historical rivalry. Younger Alabama fans, however, don’t even understand the importance of “Tennessee Hate Week” when their older counterparts start sharing videos on social media each year. The pain from the Peyton Manning years lingers on though for older Bama fans.
Living in Big Ten country, I've noticed a similar phenomenon with younger Michigan folks. I wouldn't call it a lack of awareness, it's more of a resignation. I grew up watching Mizzou during our 25 game losing streak to Nebraska and I found it easy to hate them, but that game wasn't an Alabama-Tennessee or Michigan-Ohio State situation where both programs have generations of championship-level history.
What's younger I'm down here in the southern part of the state I'm 43 in the northern part of the state I'm sure it's a big rivalry but down here I have never heard heard anyone talking about it
The problem is so many in Alabama and T*nnessee students aren’t from the state anymore, and have no context for the rivalry. I lived in Ttown for six years and saw more and more plates from up north, no appreciation or respect for what happened before they got there. Now even the players have lost that edge, sad day. Roll Tide & Hail Saban
We were mad 10 years ago... now most of us are just apathetic. Football has been so bad for so long most freshmen don't even care about their first football season as a college student. We know no matter who the coach is or what players we have we're going to lose to every team that matters as well as most teams that are completely irrelevant.
I’m a lifelong hardcore Bama fan and yeah, I’d sure be mad too. But then, I can look at this strictly from the Bama side and take To’o To’o out of it entirely. Still, I’d be really mad. Mostly I’d be confused, being this is the Saban era. But mad, you betcha! RTR!!!
No names Please if I were a UT fan my biggest issue would just be the total lack of identity. They need to set a culture and get good at one thing at the very least.
It really frustrates me that modern “fans” don’t seem to care that players leave their school, skip bowl games, or even skip seasons. That should piss you off. If it doesn’t, you’re definitely not a fanatic
So if top prospect skips a bowl game to protect his future,that makes you mad???My favorite team is Florida and when Pitts did it I 100 percent understood
BASIC MOVIE TIME I AGREE FANS SHOULD BE UPSET, But i have begun now to understand that there are those that have been taught that loyalty and committent NO LONGER have any meaning. That starts in the enviorment they were raised in. Im old school i believe in staying where you committed to stay But i also understand that if someone is not committed to be where they are at then its best for them and others that they leave, My Vols just recently lost maybe one of the best players to ever play at TENNESSEE, But it became obvious that he NO LONGER wanted to be with the Vols, AND he will be better off and the team will be better off without him. As a vol fan i wish him well he is a great player that will be playing on Sunday somewhere, I would never question his talent but i do question his committment.
Yea, I don't get where you can make definitions about what type of fan you are if they don't agree with you. Times change, it's ok if you don't agree with the new rules, but something tells me when you pull in a big time transfer that benefits you that you won't be "pissed" he was allow to play. Something tells me if he was productive you wouldn't care that he transferred. And it's hypocritical to get upset over players not playing in bowl games. That isn't our body on the line, and it isn't us who loses millions if an injury happens. Their body is their livelihood. This is just a sport you enjoy for fun, I know you like to think they are just some gladiators here for your enjoyment on Saturday but they have to provide for a family and high picks playing in meaningless bowl games makes no sense.
I’m just tired of my Vols getting their ass whipped. The administration and program are to blame. Success breeds success. Win some damn games. Make the program attractive by winning meaningful games.
The issue comes when fans have been worn down to the point of apathy. It takes a monumental effort to get them back, and they can be lost again easily.
Yeah I don't even bother watching them anymore. It's not worth watching us get beat by 30+ points to the great teams and then turn around and lose to Kentucky or Vanderbilt. I used to love college football but tennessee has made me hate it and pretty much all other sports too.
As a Bama fan living in Tennessee I miss this being a great rivalry I remember when it was reversed but not for this many years I grew up in a divided house hold the 3rd Saturday use to destroy mine and my brother's relationship for a 2 weeks because we would talk so much trash and have so much fun through out the week of and week after the game I understand the anger of these Tennessee fans.
The TN v AL game was the game of the year when I was a kid. But back then (I’m 54) Auburn was a scrimmage game. Then when Coach Dye took over at Auburn things started to change. After Coach Fulmer was replaced Tenn started downward and the rivalry became Auburn (to the younger fans). Tennessee remains a rival to me but they are down now so it is not as interesting. Since Coach Saban took over it seems that every team that has beaten Alabama during his time wants to be a rivalry. (LSU, Ole Miss, TAM). Just remember the Mike’s that coached bama before Saban. We hurt for a long time. Point of this story be loyal when you are scraping the bottom and enjoy being on top because neither one lasts forever. RTR
I'm a mid-aged fan who remembers the 90s, and my dad remembers the 60s and onwards. Neither of us ever felt like Tennessee was a bigger rivalry than Auburn, that would be like suggesting LSU or Georgia is a bigger rival right now.
I've been an Alabama fan since the first football game I remember watching in the 1963 Orange Bowl, so quite a while. In my lifetime Tennessee never knocked Alabama out of a national championship by beating them. Whenever they beat Alabama was always a year Alabama wasn't going to win a NC anyway. I can't say the same about Auburn. Somebody has to take something away from me that I could have (and probably should have) had for me to hate them as a #1 rival.
Speaking as an Ohio State fan, I think it's a huge deal. The two schools are historic rivals. I've had these discussions on ElevenWarriors before, having a handful of other fans try & put down your passion for the team on certain issues. The question I always ask those fans is: If you don't care that much, what are you even doing here? Ohio State's stadium atmosphere in the 2000's was on par with Penn State & LSU, now it's a well known fact that we only get up for the big games & night match ups. On one end of the spectrum, when nobody is checking the whackos in your fan base, guys like Harvey Updyke start poisoning trees. But on the other end, too much fan checking & ego investment in the fan base's reputation can neuter even the most passionate fan base.
In 2005 I was working in Knoxville on the west end of town at the Sam's club that is located right in front of the Wal Mart basically both are the same parking lot. Anyway, I walked over to the Wal Mart to get a bite to eat for lunch. We had to work outside during operation hours, then we worked on the inside of the store after hours. As I was leaving the Wal Mart I seen a truck that had an Alabama license plate and the county # was 33. Which in Alabama that is Franklin county and home of the Russellville HS Tigers, and there stood about a 6' 4"- 6' 5" tall 260-300 lb African American and another guy and I said to the 2 guys "So you guys from Franklin county Alabama? Must be a couple of Volunteers. You guys don't look like you're up here just visiting a Wally world lol." So the one guy says "Yeah Im from Russellville." and the other guy was like "I'm from Muscle Shoals." And being a huge football fan I said "So you have to be Aaron Sears, and you must be Jason Allen?" They both laughed and said "Yep! That is who we are." I shook both their hands and we talked for 20 min. I told them I was from Florence, Alabama and what I was doing in this part of SEC country. Aaron was driving an old ragged truck, and we talked about that truck and how much he loved that truck, along with some football talk lol. And this was during a streak of victories by the vols that started in 1994 when Peyton Manning led the Vols and the marching band to a 41-14 victory and a loud playing of Rocky Top at Legion Field. One of the most disgusting moments in this rivalry. Still wished Peyton Manning would have slipped and fell on TV while leading the band. Just something to laugh at because he whipped Bama pretty bad that year and started one of those streaks that these teams seem to run against each other. But I looked at Aaron Sears and Jason Allen and said "Brodie Croyle, DeMeco Ryans, and the rest of the Alabama team are gonna beat yall this year." Sears and Allen laughed and said "We will see." We all said bye and I told them win or lose I hope it's a great game and told them it was an honor to meet them. That year Alabama beat Tennessee 6-3, in one of the strangest Alabama/Tennessee games that Ive ever seen, and this was just 2 yrs removed from the 5 OT thriller. And a few years later I seen Sears on social media and sent him a message and asked if he remembered me. And he responded "Yeah I remember you and thought about what you said after that game, matter of fact I went to eat that evening and we talked about you making that prediction and laughed about how we should have seen it coming since we talked to this Alabama fan in Knoxville giving us the biz." It was really cool to have that moment in my life. Also when I would work during that late hours from 7pm- 4am inside the store, there was this manager that was a huge Tennessee fan and when I would get in the scissor lift to paint conduit, and air ducts, he would play Rocy Top over and over and over. My point in all of this is that being a fan, and a rival fan of another team has its fun moments. Did it piss me off to hear freaking Rocky Top? You damn right it did. But I had fun, and these folks were extremely great to work around. I enjoyed every minute of it. And if you're a Tennessee fan I think you should be upset about stuff like this. You don't have to make it something that impacts everything in your life. But It is extremely understandable to be upset and angry about these situations. As an Alabama fan, I would be really upset if this was happening to the Alabama program. Do I want Tennessee to start beating Alabama every other year? No! Are you crazy? That would be just stupid for me to even think about. But I do understand that this is a great, traditional, and one of the best rivalries in college football that is better if it was more even. And what is happening now to this rivalry has made it one of those games that no one even entertains anymore. Even Tennessee and Alabama fans have written this game as a win for Bama every yr now, and that shouldn't be the case with these 2 schools. So yes I think Tennessee fans should be upset, and Alabama fans should NEVER take Tennessee lightly. Because I always look to that 2005 season and say Tennessee could do the same thing. And Prayers for Aaron Sears because Ive been told he has some concusion issues with his mental state and isnt doing well. So I hope he gets better.
This is exactly why I love Josh Pate. He has passion for the sport and understands more then the last 15 years of football. He has been a fan since he was young like me. 40 years of loving UT. SEC is all about passion and that is why we are the best conference. Go Vols
@@austinunderwood you should’ve gone there in the first place idk what lie you were sold, but you had to show up with the damn helmet on if you thought as a prospect Tennessee would be great in the 2 years he was here.
I'll give u credit. I looked it up and 1 player transferred to Texas from OU and it was in 1935. That's exactly how we should feel as Tenn fans. I do. The younger generation just doesnt feel it. There in lies the problem.
@@ericanderson827 1935!!! I wonder if he ever crossed the Red River northbound again in his life? We have had a few high schoolers sign with Texas but it's normally historical family ties of some sort.
Tennessee didn't hold him back...he was free to go, even to Alabama. But I remember Saban making a big deal about his players transferring out to other SEC rival schools. I'll never have respect for Saban like I had for Bear Bryant.
I get that. I know a lot of Texas fans got that way (I'm a Sooner fan). I think a lot of people just get to a point where they're emotionally exhausted and become apathetic. I also understand why some UT fans are angry. The program went down in flames and players jumped ship. True fans don't get to do that, because we're no wired that way. We stick with our teams no matter what and that can include hurting when it feels like everyone is bailing.
I'm a young fan about to attend to the University of Tennessee, and honestly, if the Tennessee Vols aren't playing football, I don't pay attention to them. Sure, I get ready a couple of weeks in advance to the start of the season, but I don't find myself following Tennessee football as I should during the offseason. I'm more interested in their Tennessee baseball right now than I am about Tennessee football, and if you're an older Tennessee fan looking at this comment, this is where a lot of us younger fans are right now.
@@timothyjones1906 Mmm, until they bust. I'm at the point where I'm not giving them offseason attention, but I still pay close attention during the season.
You are spot on with your assessment!! This should piss you off a beloved Vols fan of you grew up in THE RIVALRY!! These kids are made out of plastic now plain and simple!!! I'm glad you enlightened these plastic individuals!!! GB🍊!!!
I used to invest all my emotions and be all in on college football. That was 15+ years ago. I learned it didn't make money. It didn't pay the bills. It is just a hobby. Yes, I think you should put some time and effort into your hobbies. I am a season ticket holder with a parking pass and a club membership. I attend every home game. That's my investment. I just don't let the results rule my well-being and life. When I was a child, a teen, and a college student CFB ran my life. The win-loss record decided my emotions for at least 2-3 days. I realized how immature that was as a grown adult. I say enjoy the sports. Be a fan. Have opinions. Dislike a player's transfer choice. Etc. Just don't let that be your emotion for the rest of the day. If you're upset with your program say your opinion and move on. It's an opinion just like the guy you disagree with. You're not going to change another person's mind on a sports board. Be passionate, but don't be stupid. And I am in no way a Tennessee fan. They're a rival school.
Sports is an emotional release happy or angry. That's ben part of it sinse athletics began. If a fan cant Express thier emotions then hell I rather be at the library lol.
I’m 37 years old and grew up playing ball and even went to camp at UT in 1999. Tennessee vs Alabama it was just understood that on the 3rd Saturday of October was going to be a war. We used to win a few years and the same for them but a decade and a half of it and I have to admit I have become numb to it. Very sad. Bleed orange through and through though
It's just a game....but there are some older Tennessee fans, I'm talking about upper 40's to 60 years old that are not sitting well with the current streak against Alabama.
@@Stiitchjones thank God it is just game and not life or death because we'd all be dead. It's pathetic that we can't get a coach that can beat anyone that's worth playing (Georgia Florida Alabama ect....) we can barely beat Kentucky or Vanderbilt. It's just embarrassing.
What rivalry? For my entire adult life Tennessee has lost to Alabama. He wants to play for a winning team for his future. Not the spectators. He is playing for him.
I remember being at FORT KNOX and having to trade out with a battle buddy who cleaned QC to watch the TV only to see MOUNT CODY block a damn field goal to beat us.... I'll never forget that 3rd Saturday.... GO VOLS
I’m 32, so I’m old enough to remember some of those Ls we use to hand Bama. I remember our 7 game winning streak we had on them that went from 1995, until they finally beat us in 2002, to end the streak. It’s crazy how long it’s been since this has actually been a “rivalry”. I wish we could get back to the true Third Saturday in October!
As a Sooner fan I know that we've reaped the benefits of UT transfers, however, when you really stop and think about the entire situation it makes sense to me why UT fans are irritated. We all know about the McDonald's ordeal that brought Pruitt (and ultimately the UT program) down. But who ends up getting the worst end of the deal? The Tennessee fans. I don't know which players got paid but the guys that transferred basically just jumped ship, the coaching staff was dismantled and the AD was fired. But in the end, who pays the price for all of that? Tennessee fans. I get the mentality of those fans right now.
Man I'm so glad you made this video.. I was born in 80 in Birmingham Alabama and so I grew up during the true Philip Fulmer years where it was one of the most dangerous games to look out for on the third Saturday of October, just before the iron bowl I hated/HATE the Vols. I miss that energy. My wife who's from Oregon doesn't understand it 🤣
Tennessee fans being upset makes me happy. Hope they continue to sink into the abyss of irrelevance. Alabama has a new top rival outside of Auburn, LSU has replaced UT.
@@sainvol People have been said Alabama was going down for a decade now. Yet you're still living your miserable life hoping for a demise that hasn't come. For all, we know you could be dead and gone before that time comes. There's always lower, and UT will prove that once again this season. A 5 win season would be a successful season for you this year. See you in Bryant-Denny when we're up 30 at the beginning of the 4th.
I love the fact that the vols suck. I hate them almost as much as Auburn. I hope their losing streak against Bama continues for a long long time and as always RTR
I'm about to attend the University of Tennessee, and I have one question. What does that feel like? If you want to know where the youth of your fanbase is right now, this is where we are
@@thefragrancevol753 it was very satisfying to say the least. Even if you lost you felt optimistic and would still be ranked in the top 15. And sold out 100,000 singing Rocky Top is impressive
Honestly the disconnect between young fans and older ones perfectly demonstrates the state of the program. As an 18 year old UGA fan, I just expect us to beat them, there's not that hatred I feel towards them like I do Florida or Auburn, it's more in line with South Carolina. But older fans remember the 90s and how dominant Tennessee was, a testament to where they could be rn but just so many bad coach hires have dug them in an insanely deep hole
Same feeling when Mike Woods left Arkansas. Put so much into him here and he also had a youtube channel dedicated to razorback football then transfers. TH-cam channel is dead now. Just left and didn't care about it.
Only one fan base can understand the pain of the vols and it's a husker fans, both programs have has a huge fall from their rightful place. Here is to hoping we both regain our former respect
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As a life long Tennessee fan, most of our fans have becomes so SOFT AND CONDITIONING TO LOSING that it nauseates me. And it’s not just football, the excuses for and coddling of Rick Barnes after last basketball season befuddled me. It’s. Insane.
Gator fans feel your pain. It was the best conference opener in college football every year and now it's like dunking on your little brother. It's fun, but, it doesn't feel that great.
As a long time Alabama fan, I understand what the rivalry has been for years. I think traditionally it was based on close important games and the win/loss record that had been close. Some Alabama fans used the thought that Fulmer reported us for cheating and Manning leading the band to heat up the rivalry. I am just curious what events are used by Tennessee fans to heat up the rivalry.
I'm not a huge fan of the new transfer rules but as Josh said in a previous video it will all work itself out. However, I really wish the SEC would uphold the intraconference transfer rules. That would limit these type of transfers. It's not right for a program to invest time and money into an athlete only to have him transfer to a rival or team they have to play the next season. If a kid isn't playing and wants to transfer, or if he thinks it is better for his career to transfer I'm all for it, but there are plenty of teams in other conferences.
I believe getting a good athletic director & a good coach can get us out of this slump. We have not had good leadership in the athletic dept. since Dickey retires. Our quarterback development has been bad since Cutlife left the program. I am glad they have an offensive minded coach & we have four defensive coaches that have served as coordinators.
There is no rivalry between Tennessee and Alabama. To be a rival you have to be a threat to win. Tennessee has not come close to beating Alabama for so long that the rivalry died. It is sad because it was a great rivalry and the cornerstone of the SEC.
@@sainvol I think the entire point of this video is that half of the tennessee fans have already let the rivalry die if they don't care enough to get angry about it anymore.
@@sainvol UTs best rival is Vandy. Since that's the only team they seem to be able to beat on a consistent basis lmaooooo. See you in the funny papers.
Honestly Tennessee has been in a rebuilding season for .. 7..8..9 years. The fans are loyal but the university needs to feed their starving fans. So many are dying from starvation... Please give us a morsel of joy..One tiny glimmer of hope..please...
1. As you mentioned, most current players were in Pre-K the last time the Tennessee versus Alabama rivalry was competitive. It's not relevant to 18-22 year olds 2. On top of that, most major college football programs are recruiting nationally now. Henry T is from California, the Tennessee versus Alabama rivalry is not something he grew up with so it's not relevant to him at all.
I think most are past anger, most are now just apathetic to the whole situation. This just feels more like this is what we get and will continue to get until the team is putting a quality product on the field. It sickens me, but I have just learned to expect this.
I think it's fine to be angry a talented player leaves, as long as your angry with the coaches and staff. I think you're taking it too far if you get angry at a player. Also, a true fan should be angry anytime your big rivals get a good player no matter where they come from.
Tennessee fans If you like the way Oklahoma Sooner couch Lincoln Riley runs his offense Josh Heupel will run the same offense give him a good quarterback and a few yrs they will beat Alabama they will be competitive
@@zkc24k.64 Not a UT fan lol. Just saying it doesn't matter how good he is if he isn't the "right guy". LSU had higher rated guys than Burrow on the roster, but he was the "right guy".
As a Tennessee fan I don’t care if he left. To tell you the truth I sure hope he doesn’t brake a leg😉. I wouldn’t clap if Tennessee got a 15 yard penalty playing bama 😉
Battered cold syndrome🥴 I’m 19 I’ve never seen Tennessee be THE team. But I know our history and that history sets my standard for our football program. The best I’ve seen the team is with dobbs and co.
Bama has three major rivals in the SEC (in order): Auburn, Tennessee and LSU. LSU in recent years has leapfrogged Tennessee, and risks doing the same to the Barners (though interstate rivalry is always strong). The Vols find themselves in the same situation as Bama did pre-Saban - hiring new coaches, rolling the dice, and when it didn't pan out (over a ridiculously short term), kicking them out to the curb. In the process, they leave the program mired in uncertainty, and if you're a 5-star trying to choose among top-tier school offers, concern about the future coaching regime can be make or break. I fear that in a few years the Tide will be in that same situation but I hope I am wrong. But it's also never adventageous to succeed an amazing HC. But in one of your previous videos ("Be careful what you ask for") I think you hit the nail on the head: When the game environment changes, Saban adapts - perhaps reluctantly, but with venom.
As a Tennessee can, which I am not, you'd better be asking yourself what change in the culture had taken place that a player of this caliber would even think of doing this. On the other hand, Saban warned you.
Kamara went the opposite direction and no one said a word. Butch sure didn't use him in his "brick by brick" campaign. Stop whining and just be glad football in general will be back.
Was Kamara the leading rusher for Alabama?? No, he was way down on the depth chart and about to get kicked off for weed. You’re comparing apple to oranges.
Kamala was released from his scholarship at Alabama, played for Hutchinson community college for a year, and then went to Tennessee. Definitely not a comparable situation.
Had he went to another conference then I don't think it would have been as harsh. He was one of the best D# players we had. And leave and go to Bama. Any other fan would have been just as pissed.
Yea and Kamara was a backup @ Bama who could never get on the field; not a captain and arguably the team’s best individual player. Big difference; 🍎 🍎to....🍊🍊
We don’t get angry when we fire a coach. So why get angry when a player fires a school. We don’t get angry when we recruit a player to bench another player. We don’t get mad when a coach takes away a player’s scholarship. Reality is it ain’t about what you’ve done it’s about what you’re going to do.
How aggravated you get is in scale with how your team is doing at the time. It didn't bother me one bit when an Alabama player transferred to Tennessee because I knew it really didn't make any difference.
I think Tenn made a great hire. Lincoln Riley was nobody until he coached under Stoops. Heupel was a great recruiter and has a tremendous coaching mind. The SEC east is always up for grabs. Give the guy a chance. Danny White is also a quality football exec and he has participated in developing alot of football players.
This is similar to a daily argument I have with my fellow UGA fans! Most of them say, "I'm fine with 10 wins, beat Fla, win the east!" I'm over here......No, Nat title or bust! We have done all of that! It's time to win it all.
I disagree. I'm a Gamecock so I'll substitute USC for Tennessee and Clemson for Alabama. If one of our players wants to leave and be a tater. God bless him. Don't let the doorknob hit you where.... I only want players in Columbia that Want to be there. If you don't want to be there get the -uh heck on. I'm Ok with my Gamecocks wishing a transferee well. What I'm not Ok with is my team backing down one iota to the transferee when you see him on the field. As a fan, my goal is to win the game. Period. I can't tell you how many times I watch one of my Gamecocks about to get into a fight and I yell at the TV, "Shut up and play!" Its about the game. It's not about the war of words or the hatred. Just win the game so I can talk trash next week. Those are just my thoughts. Great video.
The rise of LSU, ironically started by Saban, has instigated the fall of Tennessee, not only as programs but as Alabama's secondary rivals. We lost the Tennessee rivalry but gained a much better and more passionate one in LSU. And I'm perfectly fine with that; no we Don't need Tennessee to get competitive again. The numbers clearly show the SEC's rise to power as a perfect correlation to the downfall of Tennessee.
Concerning the NCAAF: Heathy players who sit out of bowl games and first-string players transferring for no good reason are traitors to their teams and disrespectful to their coaches and teammates and are the worst type of people to have on your team. I'd never draft a player who did this!
The Tennessee sports program is a pale shadow of its former self. The glory days of Pat Summit and her basketball dynasty, and the great football coaches of the past are long forgotten. This is what we’re left with. The athletes are looking for the best program and coaching to prepare them for their dream, an NFL career. They have little loyalty to any school or hometown program. Can anyone really blame those who choose Alabama over a struggling program like UT?
Don't hate Alabama, hate losing. Hating a team instead of the loss means you're still holding hate when you win... and if you don't, the team sticks around while the game is long over. Makes it hard to flush that junk out and get over it for the rest of the season. Besides, leaning your soul up against hating someone just to feel better, that's how you *really* lose. Learn to love to win instead.
Totally agree. As bad as it sounds, the freedom the players have to make these kind of decisons to join "super teams" if they're talented enough just hurts the guys that are already down. Keeping a guy like To'o To'o in the old days would mean something our defense could build around with a new coaching staff. Now we just get the shaft and Bama just reloads. Great for the players and shitty for the fans. Wish him the best personally though, he's a good kid from what I can tell.
We seem to have a bad habit of recruiting poor character and zero loyalty. This is about the 5th or so player that's jumped ship for another program and this time it was a 5 ⭐ transferring to of all places Alabama. They are over a hundred other schools he could have went to but ............we've lost heart and competitive nature over the last few yrs...it's sad...just for the record it pissed me off also.
When I, as an Alabama fan, say I hate Tennessee...what I really mean is that I hate losing to Tennessee. And being heckled by my Tennessee Vol friends after losses. But since we've whipped Tennessee for 14 years in a row I'm not feeling too much animosity towards Tennessee fans these days. Can't say my Vol friends like my current parody of Rocky Top though: Rocky Top You'll always be A guaranteed win for me! 14 in a row, Rocky Top! (Woo!) The Tide is Rolling Tennessee! The Tide is ROLLING, Tennessee!
When it comes to Alabama as far as Die Hard Vol fans. Lets just say that we change the words in the Song "Sweet" "Home" Alabama by Lynard Skynard.... You can use your imagination and find out what we say real easy instead.
I have lived in Knoxville my whole life, I went to every home game for about 20 years, I use to bleed orange. That being said, I have washed my hands of the Vols. When the incompetent administration tries to dig up dirt to fire the coach, that turns me against them. The university has a gaggle of clowns running the show. Since I don't like the circus I have chosen to walk away. Henry T is a hell of a football player and inside him the best. If I were advising him I would have begged him to leave this garbage team. At least he didn't bingo the gators.
I’ve been an Alabama fan since 1989 and I finally had to grudgingly admit that LSU is now our second biggest rival. Though I obviously want Alabama to win I really hope the Vols get their act together not only for the rivalry sake but because a win over Tennessee used to mean something schedule wise.
KEITH GREEN I think the SEC is better when TENNESSEE is better that has not been true now far too long, I used to love the VOLS AND GATORS AND THE VOLS AND CRIMSON TIDE GAMES THEY WERE ALWAYS WORTH WAITING FOR NOT SO MUCH LATELY AND THATS HARD FOR ME TO ADMIT BECAUSE IM A TRUE VOL FAN. I just hope TENNESSEE plays well enough so that both FLORIDA and ALABAMA WILL KNOW THEY WERE IN A GAME WITH A VERY GOOD OPPONENT, But thats probably wishful thinking.
Under Saban our biggest rival is who we play for the nc. Auburn is no.more of a threat than any sec team. If the luck up and win wr still go to seccg and playoff. Our biggest enemy is complacency , at this.point we play for titles sec dominance is a given. No sec team has been a threat lately but uga ,yet we still beat them.
@@RT22-pb2pp Auburn has knocked us out of a National Championship Game, and likely the championship itself at least twice under Saban, you can't just brush them off like "any sec team." Not even Georgia, and certainly not Tennessee, has done that.
Why isn't the Tennessee Alabama rivalry passionate especially among Tennessee fans? Go look at the games they've played vs Alabama as of late. Hard to be passionate when you feel like you're guaranteed a loss. I'm a Gamecock fan. Born and raised to HATE Clemson and ANYTHING orange. I get where apathetic fans were under Muschamp. Haven't had a competitive game since Spurrier left. There are kids that have been born and not seen us beat Clemson in football. Even Clemson fans I knew in college would say "You'll get your win every five years and then go back to losing". When the team is down it's quite demoralizing for a fan base and that's why it takes so much to turn programs around.
They don’t know what you are talking about. This thing you called “competitive hatred”! Today, people go all the way from the start. This lack of enthusiasm has been brought on by the bad athletic decisions made by Tennessee “management “.
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He wanted to be part of a winning organization not UT
I like the way Pat Summit said it, “if it doesn’t upset you to lose, then why do we work so hard?”
EXACTLY!
Josh, you trying to explain this just shows the state of Tennessee football. A lot of fans are just numb to it.
Hard to believe there are younger Tennessee fans that don’t know to hate Alabama. So many consecutive losses to one school should engender its own hatred, separate from historical rivalry. Younger Alabama fans, however, don’t even understand the importance of “Tennessee Hate Week” when their older counterparts start sharing videos on social media each year. The pain from the Peyton Manning years lingers on though for older Bama fans.
Living in Big Ten country, I've noticed a similar phenomenon with younger Michigan folks. I wouldn't call it a lack of awareness, it's more of a resignation. I grew up watching Mizzou during our 25 game losing streak to Nebraska and I found it easy to hate them, but that game wasn't an Alabama-Tennessee or Michigan-Ohio State situation where both programs have generations of championship-level history.
What's younger I'm down here in the southern part of the state I'm 43 in the northern part of the state I'm sure it's a big rivalry but down here I have never heard heard anyone talking about it
@@brianw5336 Mid 20s to early 30s
@@anondescriptobserver6774 ok like I said down here in the southern part of the state I've never heard anyone talking about the rivalry and I'm 43
The problem is so many in Alabama and T*nnessee students aren’t from the state anymore, and have no context for the rivalry. I lived in Ttown for six years and saw more and more plates from up north, no appreciation or respect for what happened before they got there. Now even the players have lost that edge, sad day.
Roll Tide & Hail Saban
I’d be angry if I was a Tennessee fan as well
Thank you cause we’re pissed
We were mad 10 years ago... now most of us are just apathetic. Football has been so bad for so long most freshmen don't even care about their first football season as a college student. We know no matter who the coach is or what players we have we're going to lose to every team that matters as well as most teams that are completely irrelevant.
Lucas House team needs an identity again. Crazy what has happened to UT. Growing up for me UT was a power
I’m a lifelong hardcore Bama fan and yeah, I’d sure be mad too. But then, I can look at this strictly from the Bama side and take To’o To’o out of it entirely. Still, I’d be really mad. Mostly I’d be confused, being this is the Saban era. But mad, you betcha! RTR!!!
No names Please if I were a UT fan my biggest issue would just be the total lack of identity. They need to set a culture and get good at one thing at the very least.
It really frustrates me that modern “fans” don’t seem to care that players leave their school, skip bowl games, or even skip seasons. That should piss you off. If it doesn’t, you’re definitely not a fanatic
So if top prospect skips a bowl game to protect his future,that makes you mad???My favorite team is Florida and when Pitts did it I 100 percent understood
You literally have no life!
BASIC MOVIE TIME I AGREE FANS SHOULD BE UPSET, But i have begun now to understand that there are those that have been taught that loyalty and committent NO LONGER have any meaning. That starts in the enviorment they were raised in. Im old school i believe in staying where you committed to stay
But i also understand that if someone is not committed to be where they are at then its best for them and others that they leave, My Vols just recently lost maybe one of the best players to ever play at TENNESSEE, But it became obvious that he NO LONGER wanted to be with the Vols, AND he will be better off and the team will be better off without him. As a vol fan i wish him well he is a great player that will be playing on Sunday somewhere, I would never question his talent but i do question his committment.
Yea, I don't get where you can make definitions about what type of fan you are if they don't agree with you. Times change, it's ok if you don't agree with the new rules, but something tells me when you pull in a big time transfer that benefits you that you won't be "pissed" he was allow to play. Something tells me if he was productive you wouldn't care that he transferred.
And it's hypocritical to get upset over players not playing in bowl games. That isn't our body on the line, and it isn't us who loses millions if an injury happens. Their body is their livelihood. This is just a sport you enjoy for fun, I know you like to think they are just some gladiators here for your enjoyment on Saturday but they have to provide for a family and high picks playing in meaningless bowl games makes no sense.
@@notacasualbballfan3122 and you just proved his point to a T
Players quitting before the season is over is quitting sir....
You would never see gator players cheering their teammate who transferred to FSU
You ain't been beat down like they have. Roll Tide.
I’m just tired of my Vols getting their ass whipped. The administration and program are to blame. Success breeds success. Win some damn games. Make the program attractive by winning meaningful games.
I will take my hatred for Alabama to the grave.
As I will with mine towards the Vawls
May your "hatred" grow and grow. ROLL TIDE!
I’m a huge Tennessee Volunteers fan and I am mad as hell about it!
The issue comes when fans have been worn down to the point of apathy. It takes a monumental effort to get them back, and they can be lost again easily.
Exactly
Yeah I don't even bother watching them anymore. It's not worth watching us get beat by 30+ points to the great teams and then turn around and lose to Kentucky or Vanderbilt. I used to love college football but tennessee has made me hate it and pretty much all other sports too.
As a Bama fan living in Tennessee I miss this being a great rivalry I remember when it was reversed but not for this many years I grew up in a divided house hold the 3rd Saturday use to destroy mine and my brother's relationship for a 2 weeks because we would talk so much trash and have so much fun through out the week of and week after the game I understand the anger of these Tennessee fans.
Fr because if your team always has sucked your used to it but us being one of the best when it comes to all time history just makes it so annoying
The third Saturday in October should be a National holiday!
It is for BAMA fans
Us bama fans are gonna have lung cancer from all these cigars 😬
@@chasee4973 that was our secret plan all along....😂😂😂
Wait - it’s NOT a national holiday?!? RTR baby, lol!
99th
The TN v AL game was the game of the year when I was a kid. But back then (I’m 54) Auburn was a scrimmage game. Then when Coach Dye took over at Auburn things started to change. After Coach Fulmer was replaced Tenn started downward and the rivalry became Auburn (to the younger fans). Tennessee remains a rival to me but they are down now so it is not as interesting. Since Coach Saban took over it seems that every team that has beaten Alabama during his time wants to be a rivalry. (LSU, Ole Miss, TAM). Just remember the Mike’s that coached bama before Saban. We hurt for a long time. Point of this story be loyal when you are scraping the bottom and enjoy being on top because neither one lasts forever. RTR
I'm a mid-aged fan who remembers the 90s, and my dad remembers the 60s and onwards. Neither of us ever felt like Tennessee was a bigger rivalry than Auburn, that would be like suggesting LSU or Georgia is a bigger rival right now.
I've been an Alabama fan since the first football game I remember watching in the 1963 Orange Bowl, so quite a while. In my lifetime Tennessee never knocked Alabama out of a national championship by beating them.
Whenever they beat Alabama was always a year Alabama wasn't going to win a NC anyway.
I can't say the same about Auburn. Somebody has to take something away from me that I could have (and probably should have) had for me to hate them as a #1 rival.
Speaking as an Ohio State fan, I think it's a huge deal. The two schools are historic rivals. I've had these discussions on ElevenWarriors before, having a handful of other fans try & put down your passion for the team on certain issues. The question I always ask those fans is: If you don't care that much, what are you even doing here?
Ohio State's stadium atmosphere in the 2000's was on par with Penn State & LSU, now it's a well known fact that we only get up for the big games & night match ups. On one end of the spectrum, when nobody is checking the whackos in your fan base, guys like Harvey Updyke start poisoning trees. But on the other end, too much fan checking & ego investment in the fan base's reputation can neuter even the most passionate fan base.
This whole post is bull
@@deonhoward74, because they lost one to Bama too.. RTR..
Not anymore & not anytime soon.
Ohio state stadium atmosphere is still better than penn states idiot
In 2005 I was working in Knoxville on the west end of town at the Sam's club that is located right in front of the Wal Mart basically both are the same parking lot. Anyway, I walked over to the Wal Mart to get a bite to eat for lunch. We had to work outside during operation hours, then we worked on the inside of the store after hours. As I was leaving the Wal Mart I seen a truck that had an Alabama license plate and the county # was 33. Which in Alabama that is Franklin county and home of the Russellville HS Tigers, and there stood about a 6' 4"- 6' 5" tall 260-300 lb African American and another guy and I said to the 2 guys "So you guys from Franklin county Alabama? Must be a couple of Volunteers. You guys don't look like you're up here just visiting a Wally world lol." So the one guy says "Yeah Im from Russellville." and the other guy was like "I'm from Muscle Shoals." And being a huge football fan I said "So you have to be Aaron Sears, and you must be Jason Allen?" They both laughed and said "Yep! That is who we are." I shook both their hands and we talked for 20 min. I told them I was from Florence, Alabama and what I was doing in this part of SEC country. Aaron was driving an old ragged truck, and we talked about that truck and how much he loved that truck, along with some football talk lol. And this was during a streak of victories by the vols that started in 1994 when Peyton Manning led the Vols and the marching band to a 41-14 victory and a loud playing of Rocky Top at Legion Field. One of the most disgusting moments in this rivalry. Still wished Peyton Manning would have slipped and fell on TV while leading the band. Just something to laugh at because he whipped Bama pretty bad that year and started one of those streaks that these teams seem to run against each other. But I looked at Aaron Sears and Jason Allen and said "Brodie Croyle, DeMeco Ryans, and the rest of the Alabama team are gonna beat yall this year." Sears and Allen laughed and said "We will see." We all said bye and I told them win or lose I hope it's a great game and told them it was an honor to meet them. That year Alabama beat Tennessee 6-3, in one of the strangest Alabama/Tennessee games that Ive ever seen, and this was just 2 yrs removed from the 5 OT thriller. And a few years later I seen Sears on social media and sent him a message and asked if he remembered me. And he responded "Yeah I remember you and thought about what you said after that game, matter of fact I went to eat that evening and we talked about you making that prediction and laughed about how we should have seen it coming since we talked to this Alabama fan in Knoxville giving us the biz." It was really cool to have that moment in my life. Also when I would work during that late hours from 7pm- 4am inside the store, there was this manager that was a huge Tennessee fan and when I would get in the scissor lift to paint conduit, and air ducts, he would play Rocy Top over and over and over. My point in all of this is that being a fan, and a rival fan of another team has its fun moments. Did it piss me off to hear freaking Rocky Top? You damn right it did. But I had fun, and these folks were extremely great to work around. I enjoyed every minute of it. And if you're a Tennessee fan I think you should be upset about stuff like this. You don't have to make it something that impacts everything in your life. But It is extremely understandable to be upset and angry about these situations. As an Alabama fan, I would be really upset if this was happening to the Alabama program. Do I want Tennessee to start beating Alabama every other year? No! Are you crazy? That would be just stupid for me to even think about. But I do understand that this is a great, traditional, and one of the best rivalries in college football that is better if it was more even. And what is happening now to this rivalry has made it one of those games that no one even entertains anymore. Even Tennessee and Alabama fans have written this game as a win for Bama every yr now, and that shouldn't be the case with these 2 schools. So yes I think Tennessee fans should be upset, and Alabama fans should NEVER take Tennessee lightly. Because I always look to that 2005 season and say Tennessee could do the same thing. And Prayers for Aaron Sears because Ive been told he has some concusion issues with his mental state and isnt doing well. So I hope he gets better.
This is exactly why I love Josh Pate. He has passion for the sport and understands more then the last 15 years of football. He has been a fan since he was young like me. 40 years of loving UT. SEC is all about passion and that is why we are the best conference. Go Vols
Thanks Eric! - JP
Saban is 14-0 vs Tennessee since he's been at Alabama. Who wouldn't transfer from Tennessee to Alabama?
Anyone with a soul
@@Jake_from_State_Farm anyone with a brain would
@@austinunderwood you should’ve gone there in the first place idk what lie you were sold, but you had to show up with the damn helmet on if you thought as a prospect Tennessee would be great in the 2 years he was here.
@@Jake_from_State_Farm Cade Mays believed it. We'll see how well he's progressed since transferring.
@@randykent9594 his little brother plays at Tennessee and he grew up in East Tennessee 😂 you’re comparing two very different situations
As a Sooner fan I am glad this would never happen to OU. A Sooner transferring to Texas would require armed security for the rest of his life.
I'll give u credit. I looked it up and 1 player transferred to Texas from OU and it was in 1935. That's exactly how we should feel as Tenn fans. I do. The younger generation just doesnt feel it. There in lies the problem.
@@ericanderson827 1935!!! I wonder if he ever crossed the Red River northbound again in his life? We have had a few high schoolers sign with Texas but it's normally historical family ties of some sort.
Tennessee didn't hold him back...he was free to go, even to Alabama. But I remember Saban making a big deal about his players transferring out to other SEC rival schools. I'll never have respect for Saban like I had for Bear Bryant.
@@Stiitchjones Saban says: Do as I say and not as I do!!
I'm a Bama guy, but my friend is a Vol fan and he says his fellow UT fans are just apathetic.
I get that. I know a lot of Texas fans got that way (I'm a Sooner fan). I think a lot of people just get to a point where they're emotionally exhausted and become apathetic. I also understand why some UT fans are angry. The program went down in flames and players jumped ship. True fans don't get to do that, because we're no wired that way. We stick with our teams no matter what and that can include hurting when it feels like everyone is bailing.
How many times do you have to get kicked in the de nuts before you give up . I have given up on UT FOOTBALL.
I'm a young fan about to attend to the University of Tennessee, and honestly, if the Tennessee Vols aren't playing football, I don't pay attention to them. Sure, I get ready a couple of weeks in advance to the start of the season, but I don't find myself following Tennessee football as I should during the offseason. I'm more interested in their Tennessee baseball right now than I am about Tennessee football, and if you're an older Tennessee fan looking at this comment, this is where a lot of us younger fans are right now.
@@timothyjones1906 Mmm, until they bust.
I'm at the point where I'm not giving them offseason attention, but I still pay close attention during the season.
I guess some are, but the ones I know are not. Maybe it's an age thing.
You are spot on with your assessment!! This should piss you off a beloved Vols fan of you grew up in THE RIVALRY!! These kids are made out of plastic now plain and simple!!! I'm glad you enlightened these plastic individuals!!! GB🍊!!!
I used to invest all my emotions and be all in on college football. That was 15+ years ago. I learned it didn't make money. It didn't pay the bills. It is just a hobby. Yes, I think you should put some time and effort into your hobbies. I am a season ticket holder with a parking pass and a club membership. I attend every home game. That's my investment.
I just don't let the results rule my well-being and life. When I was a child, a teen, and a college student CFB ran my life. The win-loss record decided my emotions for at least 2-3 days. I realized how immature that was as a grown adult.
I say enjoy the sports. Be a fan. Have opinions. Dislike a player's transfer choice. Etc. Just don't let that be your emotion for the rest of the day. If you're upset with your program say your opinion and move on. It's an opinion just like the guy you disagree with. You're not going to change another person's mind on a sports board. Be passionate, but don't be stupid.
And I am in no way a Tennessee fan. They're a rival school.
Sports is an emotional release happy or angry. That's ben part of it sinse athletics began. If a fan cant Express thier emotions then hell I rather be at the library lol.
BVS is "Battered Vol Syndrome" for those who don't know. LOL
@Volcanic Orange Lightning Show Well, that too.
I have two favorite college football teams, Tennessee and whoever is playing Alabama.
Haha! That means you are a frustrated man! ROLL TIDE!!!!
I’m 37 years old and grew up playing ball and even went to camp at UT in 1999. Tennessee vs Alabama it was just understood that on the 3rd Saturday of October was going to be a war. We used to win a few years and the same for them but a decade and a half of it and I have to admit I have become numb to it. Very sad. Bleed orange through and through though
This game is around my birthday. So needless to say I can't ever look forward to that weekend.
It's just a game....but there are some older Tennessee fans, I'm talking about upper 40's to 60 years old that are not sitting well with the current streak against Alabama.
@@Stiitchjones thank God it is just game and not life or death because we'd all be dead. It's pathetic that we can't get a coach that can beat anyone that's worth playing (Georgia Florida Alabama ect....) we can barely beat Kentucky or Vanderbilt. It's just embarrassing.
@@lucashouse9117 as a 50+ year Vol fan, your first sentence made me chuckle because it’s very true.
What rivalry? For my entire adult life Tennessee has lost to Alabama. He wants to play for a winning team for his future. Not the spectators. He is playing for him.
I remember being at FORT KNOX and having to trade out with a battle buddy who cleaned QC to watch the TV only to see MOUNT CODY block a damn field goal to beat us.... I'll never forget that 3rd Saturday.... GO VOLS
I’m 32, so I’m old enough to remember some of those Ls we use to hand Bama. I remember our 7 game winning streak we had on them that went from 1995, until they finally beat us in 2002, to end the streak. It’s crazy how long it’s been since this has actually been a “rivalry”. I wish we could get back to the true Third Saturday in October!
As a Sooner fan I know that we've reaped the benefits of UT transfers, however, when you really stop and think about the entire situation it makes sense to me why UT fans are irritated. We all know about the McDonald's ordeal that brought Pruitt (and ultimately the UT program) down. But who ends up getting the worst end of the deal? The Tennessee fans. I don't know which players got paid but the guys that transferred basically just jumped ship, the coaching staff was dismantled and the AD was fired. But in the end, who pays the price for all of that? Tennessee fans. I get the mentality of those fans right now.
Man I'm so glad you made this video.. I was born in 80 in Birmingham Alabama and so I grew up during the true Philip Fulmer years where it was one of the most dangerous games to look out for on the third Saturday of October, just before the iron bowl I hated/HATE the Vols. I miss that energy. My wife who's from Oregon doesn't understand it 🤣
Tennessee fans being upset makes me happy. Hope they continue to sink into the abyss of irrelevance. Alabama has a new top rival outside of Auburn, LSU has replaced UT.
Tennessee will get back up they are a part of the blue bloods in College football.
There is no lower place to sink to. Unfortunately for you, the only place to go is up for us, and down for you. See you in the funny papers.
@@sainvol People have been said Alabama was going down for a decade now. Yet you're still living your miserable life hoping for a demise that hasn't come. For all, we know you could be dead and gone before that time comes. There's always lower, and UT will prove that once again this season. A 5 win season would be a successful season for you this year. See you in Bryant-Denny when we're up 30 at the beginning of the 4th.
I love the fact that the vols suck. I hate them almost as much as Auburn. I hope their losing streak against Bama continues for a long long time and as always RTR
I miss the third Saturday and the Florida game being season defining. I loved when it was great yearly matchups
I'm about to attend the University of Tennessee, and I have one question. What does that feel like?
If you want to know where the youth of your fanbase is right now, this is where we are
@@thefragrancevol753 it was very satisfying to say the least. Even if you lost you felt optimistic and would still be ranked in the top 15. And sold out 100,000 singing Rocky Top is impressive
I grew up hating all teams not Vols, I watched us win the 98 championship...Henry T leaving for Bama is an atrocity.
Honestly the disconnect between young fans and older ones perfectly demonstrates the state of the program. As an 18 year old UGA fan, I just expect us to beat them, there's not that hatred I feel towards them like I do Florida or Auburn, it's more in line with South Carolina. But older fans remember the 90s and how dominant Tennessee was, a testament to where they could be rn but just so many bad coach hires have dug them in an insanely deep hole
Same feeling when Mike Woods left Arkansas. Put so much into him here and he also had a youtube channel dedicated to razorback football then transfers. TH-cam channel is dead now. Just left and didn't care about it.
Only one fan base can understand the pain of the vols and it's a husker fans, both programs have has a huge fall from their rightful place. Here is to hoping we both regain our former respect
As a life long Tennessee fan, most of our fans have becomes so SOFT AND CONDITIONING TO LOSING that it nauseates me. And it’s not just football, the excuses for and coddling of Rick Barnes after last basketball season befuddled me. It’s. Insane.
Treason...and i hate the Vols. Im a Memphis fan, and i hate this for UT.
I remember the Peyton Manning years use to hate the color orange, Its sad how there just another game now
Gator fans feel your pain. It was the best conference opener in college football every year and now it's like dunking on your little brother. It's fun, but, it doesn't feel that great.
As a long time Alabama fan, I understand what the rivalry has been for years. I think traditionally it was based on close important games and the win/loss record that had been close. Some Alabama fans used the thought that Fulmer reported us for cheating and Manning leading the band to heat up the rivalry. I am just curious what events are used by Tennessee fans to heat up the rivalry.
I'm not a huge fan of the new transfer rules but as Josh said in a previous video it will all work itself out. However, I really wish the SEC would uphold the intraconference transfer rules. That would limit these type of transfers.
It's not right for a program to invest time and money into an athlete only to have him transfer to a rival or team they have to play the next season.
If a kid isn't playing and wants to transfer, or if he thinks it is better for his career to transfer I'm all for it, but there are plenty of teams in other conferences.
I believe getting a good athletic director & a good coach can get us out of this slump. We have not had good leadership in the athletic dept. since Dickey retires. Our quarterback development has been bad since Cutlife left the program. I am glad they have an offensive minded coach & we have four defensive coaches that have served as coordinators.
I once told my husband I hope I don't die on the 3rd Sat in October because I'd be put on ice until there was a "bye week". LOL
I mean he’s trying to go to the NFL, why stay at Tennessee and get embarrassed.
Any and all my anger that’s left is directly for Tennessee for crushing my spirit and dismantling my passion for this program.
There is no rivalry between Tennessee and Alabama. To be a rival you have to be a threat to win. Tennessee has not come close to beating Alabama for so long that the rivalry died. It is sad because it was a great rivalry and the cornerstone of the SEC.
We will all die before the rivalry, dude. 115+ years of momentum. Vols ain't going nowhere. See ya in the funny papers.
@@sainvol I think the entire point of this video is that half of the tennessee fans have already let the rivalry die if they don't care enough to get angry about it anymore.
@@sainvol UTs best rival is Vandy. Since that's the only team they seem to be able to beat on a consistent basis lmaooooo. See you in the funny papers.
Honestly Tennessee has been in a rebuilding season for .. 7..8..9 years.
The fans are loyal but the university needs to feed their starving fans.
So many are dying from starvation...
Please give us a morsel of joy..One tiny glimmer of hope..please...
1. As you mentioned, most current players were in Pre-K the last time the Tennessee versus Alabama rivalry was competitive. It's not relevant to 18-22 year olds
2. On top of that, most major college football programs are recruiting nationally now. Henry T is from California, the Tennessee versus Alabama rivalry is not something he grew up with so it's not relevant to him at all.
I rarely watch them anymore. I get pissed off at the wasted talent and terrible coaches.
in case you didnt know what bvs means, its battered vol syndrome
As a Tennessee fan, yeah, it sucks to lose your best player to Bama. It's irritating as hell, but honestly I can't even blame the guy a bit.
I think most are past anger, most are now just apathetic to the whole situation. This just feels more like this is what we get and will continue to get until the team is putting a quality product on the field. It sickens me, but I have just learned to expect this.
I think it's fine to be angry a talented player leaves, as long as your angry with the coaches and staff. I think you're taking it too far if you get angry at a player. Also, a true fan should be angry anytime your big rivals get a good player no matter where they come from.
Tennessee fans If you like the way Oklahoma Sooner couch Lincoln Riley runs his offense Josh Heupel will run the same offense give him a good quarterback and a few yrs they will beat Alabama they will be competitive
You act like getting a good QB is easy. It's not even about getting a good QB, it's about getting the "right" QB.
@@Legal_Savant yea but you guys don’t have either lol, I’d work on getting a good one forts though
It all makes sense now, I always knew Lincoln Riley was a couch...
@@zkc24k.64 Not a UT fan lol. Just saying it doesn't matter how good he is if he isn't the "right guy". LSU had higher rated guys than Burrow on the roster, but he was the "right guy".
As a Tennessee fan I don’t care if he left. To tell you the truth I sure hope he doesn’t brake a leg😉. I wouldn’t clap if Tennessee got a 15 yard penalty playing bama 😉
Battered cold syndrome🥴 I’m 19 I’ve never seen Tennessee be THE team. But I know our history and that history sets my standard for our football program. The best I’ve seen the team is with dobbs and co.
Exact same way I'd describe my experience. Older people, this is where we are.
Bama has three major rivals in the SEC (in order): Auburn, Tennessee and LSU. LSU in recent years has leapfrogged Tennessee, and risks doing the same to the Barners (though interstate rivalry is always strong). The Vols find themselves in the same situation as Bama did pre-Saban - hiring new coaches, rolling the dice, and when it didn't pan out (over a ridiculously short term), kicking them out to the curb. In the process, they leave the program mired in uncertainty, and if you're a 5-star trying to choose among top-tier school offers, concern about the future coaching regime can be make or break. I fear that in a few years the Tide will be in that same situation but I hope I am wrong. But it's also never adventageous to succeed an amazing HC.
But in one of your previous videos ("Be careful what you ask for") I think you hit the nail on the head: When the game environment changes, Saban adapts - perhaps reluctantly, but with venom.
As a Tennessee can, which I am not, you'd better be asking yourself what change in the culture had taken place that a player of this caliber would even think of doing this.
On the other hand, Saban warned you.
Kamara went the opposite direction and no one said a word. Butch sure didn't use him in his "brick by brick" campaign. Stop whining and just be glad football in general will be back.
Was Kamara the leading rusher for Alabama?? No, he was way down on the depth chart and about to get kicked off for weed. You’re comparing apple to oranges.
Alvin Kamara didn't transfer from Alabama to Tennessee. Thank you though. - JP
Kamala was released from his scholarship at Alabama, played for Hutchinson community college for a year, and then went to Tennessee.
Definitely not a comparable situation.
No Butch sat him on the bench and ran a 6'4" back out of the shotgun instead.
Had he went to another conference then I don't think it would have been as harsh. He was one of the best D# players we had. And leave and go to Bama. Any other fan would have been just as pissed.
Tennessee , Florida State , NEBRASKA, Miami . There’ll all down
remember that time that Alvin Kamara left Alabama for Tennessee?
Yea and Kamara was a backup @ Bama who could never get on the field; not a captain and arguably the team’s best individual player. Big difference; 🍎 🍎to....🍊🍊
We don’t get angry when we fire a coach. So why get angry when a player fires a school.
We don’t get angry when we recruit a player to bench another player.
We don’t get mad when a coach takes away a player’s scholarship.
Reality is it ain’t about what you’ve done it’s about what you’re going to do.
How aggravated you get is in scale with how your team is doing at the time.
It didn't bother me one bit when an Alabama player transferred to Tennessee because I knew it really didn't make any difference.
UT has far more things to be worried about than the loss of 1 player. UT has not beaten Bama in a long time.
Johnson City shoutout 🤘🏼🤘🏼 ironically I’m a Texas fan and not a Vols fan tho 😂
Well, we showed him.
I think Tenn made a great hire. Lincoln Riley was nobody until he coached under Stoops. Heupel was a great recruiter and has a tremendous coaching mind. The SEC east is always up for grabs. Give the guy a chance. Danny White is also a quality football exec and he has participated in developing alot of football players.
My favorite rivalry games ( right now ) in this order ... 1. LSU ..2. Auburn ..3 Ole Miss..4..Texas A&M ..5 Tennessee ...And I been Bama fan since 77
This is similar to a daily argument I have with my fellow UGA fans! Most of them say, "I'm fine with 10 wins, beat Fla, win the east!" I'm over here......No, Nat title or bust! We have done all of that! It's time to win it all.
Even most Bama fans have forgotten that the Vols are our main rival. The Bear was adamant about this.
You can also hang elephants that escape from the circus in Erwin, TN
I disagree. I'm a Gamecock so I'll substitute USC for Tennessee and Clemson for Alabama. If one of our players wants to leave and be a tater. God bless him. Don't let the doorknob hit you where.... I only want players in Columbia that Want to be there. If you don't want to be there get the -uh heck on. I'm Ok with my Gamecocks wishing a transferee well. What I'm not Ok with is my team backing down one iota to the transferee when you see him on the field. As a fan, my goal is to win the game. Period. I can't tell you how many times I watch one of my Gamecocks about to get into a fight and I yell at the TV, "Shut up and play!" Its about the game. It's not about the war of words or the hatred. Just win the game so I can talk trash next week. Those are just my thoughts. Great video.
The rise of LSU, ironically started by Saban, has instigated the fall of Tennessee, not only as programs but as Alabama's secondary rivals. We lost the Tennessee rivalry but gained a much better and more passionate one in LSU. And I'm perfectly fine with that; no we Don't need Tennessee to get competitive again. The numbers clearly show the SEC's rise to power as a perfect correlation to the downfall of Tennessee.
Does Jeremy not understand that UT could do absolutely nothing about the transfers?
Tennessee fans should be mad at the administration for getting into this mess year after year. Quit going to the games.
I've been angry since 2007
Concerning the NCAAF: Heathy players who sit out of bowl games and first-string players transferring for no good reason are traitors to their teams and disrespectful to their coaches and teammates and are the worst type of people to have on your team. I'd never draft a player who did this!
The Tennessee sports program is a pale shadow of its former self. The glory days of Pat Summit and her basketball dynasty, and the great football coaches of the past are long forgotten. This is what we’re left with. The athletes are looking for the best program and coaching to prepare them for their dream, an NFL career. They have little loyalty to any school or hometown program. Can anyone really blame those who choose Alabama over a struggling program like UT?
If you check the records, it's more of a one sided rivalry favoring Alabama. Tennessee won a few games when Philip Fulmer was coached and he cheated.
Don't hate Alabama, hate losing.
Hating a team instead of the loss means you're still holding hate when you win... and if you don't, the team sticks around while the game is long over. Makes it hard to flush that junk out and get over it for the rest of the season.
Besides, leaning your soul up against hating someone just to feel better, that's how you *really* lose. Learn to love to win instead.
yall ppl getting mad at 18-22 year olds when you’re 30 + years old like we’re young trying to find a good home for ourselves
Fulmer flew the UT Football Program into a foggy mountainside years ago......
It pains me to say it but the more CFB becomes a “business decision” for players the less emotional it becomes for me.
Totally agree. As bad as it sounds, the freedom the players have to make these kind of decisons to join "super teams" if they're talented enough just hurts the guys that are already down. Keeping a guy like To'o To'o in the old days would mean something our defense could build around with a new coaching staff. Now we just get the shaft and Bama just reloads. Great for the players and shitty for the fans. Wish him the best personally though, he's a good kid from what I can tell.
Didnt help themselves again in hiring a coach.🤦♂️
guess we will see about that..
My son is 21 and doesn’t know why that game still means so much to me because he’s been spoiled because of Nick
We seem to have a bad habit of recruiting poor character and zero loyalty. This is about the 5th or so player that's jumped ship for another program and this time it was a 5 ⭐ transferring to of all places Alabama. They are over a hundred other schools he could have went to but ............we've lost heart and competitive nature over the last few yrs...it's sad...just for the record it pissed me off also.
When I, as an Alabama fan, say I hate Tennessee...what I really mean is that I hate losing to Tennessee. And being heckled by my Tennessee Vol friends after losses. But since we've whipped Tennessee for 14 years in a row I'm not feeling too much animosity towards Tennessee fans these days. Can't say my Vol friends like my current parody of Rocky Top though:
Rocky Top
You'll always be
A guaranteed win
for me!
14 in a row, Rocky Top! (Woo!)
The Tide is Rolling Tennessee!
The Tide is ROLLING, Tennessee!
The University was invested in HT. Its a slap in the face for him to go to Bama or any other school.
When it comes to Alabama as far as Die Hard Vol fans. Lets just say that we change the words in the Song "Sweet" "Home" Alabama by Lynard Skynard.... You can use your imagination and find out what we say real easy instead.
When Huepel wins then they will be happy
You fired a good coach long ago
Its your fault
When I seen him leave.... it broke my heart.
I have lived in Knoxville my whole life, I went to every home game for about 20 years, I use to bleed orange. That being said, I have washed my hands of the Vols. When the incompetent administration tries to dig up dirt to fire the coach, that turns me against them. The university has a gaggle of clowns running the show. Since I don't like the circus I have chosen to walk away. Henry T is a hell of a football player and inside him the best. If I were advising him I would have begged him to leave this garbage team. At least he didn't bingo the gators.
I’ve been an Alabama fan since 1989 and I finally had to grudgingly admit that LSU is now our second biggest rival. Though I obviously want Alabama to win I really hope the Vols get their act together not only for the rivalry sake but because a win over Tennessee used to mean something schedule wise.
KEITH GREEN I think the SEC is better when TENNESSEE is better that has not been true now far too long, I used to love the VOLS AND GATORS AND THE VOLS AND CRIMSON TIDE GAMES THEY WERE ALWAYS WORTH WAITING FOR NOT SO MUCH LATELY AND THATS HARD FOR ME TO ADMIT BECAUSE IM A TRUE VOL FAN. I just hope TENNESSEE plays well enough so that both FLORIDA and ALABAMA WILL KNOW THEY WERE IN A GAME WITH A VERY GOOD OPPONENT, But thats probably wishful thinking.
Under Saban our biggest rival is who we play for the nc. Auburn is no.more of a threat than any sec team. If the luck up and win wr still go to seccg and playoff. Our biggest enemy is complacency , at this.point we play for titles sec dominance is a given. No sec team has been a threat lately but uga ,yet we still beat them.
@@RT22-pb2pp Auburn has knocked us out of a National Championship Game, and likely the championship itself at least twice under Saban, you can't just brush them off like "any sec team." Not even Georgia, and certainly not Tennessee, has done that.
No, they shouldn't be angry. They've been irrelevant for 2 decades. If they're angry, it's because their expectations are outside of reality.
I am a younger but still diehard Tennessee sports fan and can someone tell me what BVS means and sorry if people get mad but I would like to know
Why isn't the Tennessee Alabama rivalry passionate especially among Tennessee fans? Go look at the games they've played vs Alabama as of late. Hard to be passionate when you feel like you're guaranteed a loss.
I'm a Gamecock fan. Born and raised to HATE Clemson and ANYTHING orange. I get where apathetic fans were under Muschamp. Haven't had a competitive game since Spurrier left. There are kids that have been born and not seen us beat Clemson in football. Even Clemson fans I knew in college would say "You'll get your win every five years and then go back to losing". When the team is down it's quite demoralizing for a fan base and that's why it takes so much to turn programs around.
They don’t know what you are talking about. This thing you called “competitive hatred”!
Today, people go all the way from the start.
This lack of enthusiasm has been brought on by the bad athletic decisions made by Tennessee “management “.