Fix college ball: Merge Mountain West and PAC12. ND has to join a conference. Salary Cap NIL 20mil per school for all sports combined. 2 year contract for all players unless the coach leaves or is fired. Original school has to offer 4 year scholarship, so if the player wants to stay, he can. The “Power 5” pay for full time, professional refs. Every Power 5 plays a 9 game conference schedule with one out of conference power 5 opponent (Saves Rivalry’s like UGA vs GT and Clemson vs SC) 16 team play off: Top 2 teams of each conference are in play off. 3rd and 4th ranked team in each conference has a play in game to take place of Conference championship games. One at large bid given to group of five team. BCS model seeds the playoff bracket. Re-seed after each round. Home games to higher seed until semi finals. Commissioner board to over see it made of former coaches or athletic directors. One per conference.
The SEC is waaay down. The NIL and Portal have leveled the playing field. I have zero issue with this. There was waaaay to much SEC chirping and insulting going on by them. Soooo, when the rug got pulled on them and they got exposed, it made it much worse. Indiana played every bit as good as GA against ND. A little humble pie is in order.
You realize Georgia was using their backup quarterback. You do that to Indiana and they would lose by a lot more. But if’s and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a happy christmas
My azz. SC could drub 80% of the Big10 lol. YOu got what, one team in the Big10 that's legit. OSU. PSU is not even UGA and ND is an independent. Watch the NFL draft and tell me what happens every year isn't about to happen again. The SEC blows everyone out in the drafts. IU was a product scheduling. When they played someone they got destroyed. I could take any SEC team, including Vandy and have only one loss.. lol. You can buy an offense if you get the right QB and WR's, coach well. But it takes time to build a good defense. And yes, there is more parity. All the SEC were better than they have been, can't say that about the big10.
@@gwhite7136I hope you don't mean South Carolina? The same South Carolina that just lost to Illinois who was 5th in the Big 10? On an average day, osu, psu, and Oregon would beat any sec team. Including georgia and Texas.
@@philipdillon83 Illinois was a ranked team and still is.. lol. You can't count Oregon. They been a pac12 for all their time except this year. so that's minus one team. Illinois had only it's 2nd 10 win season in history. So stop it.. lol PSU never beats anyone in the top 5. They are your borderline team. Wins the games they are supposed to but never beats UM and OSU with any regularity. That's pretty much it. lol. That is why the SEC has dominated college football for so long. And a year or two where an SEC team didn't win it all, doesn't change that the SEC is still the best conference.
Notre Dame is playing Tressel Ball of the early 2000’s. As an OSU fan who watched Freeman as a buckeye, this dude is playing tressel ball-run the ball, hit shots to stretch the defense to allow you to run (if possible), play rugged defense, win TO battle, and win the special teams. This is an approach to the game that OSU is very familiar
Well said. I'm old enough to remember Tressel ball at YSU. Nothing pretty. But amazingly effective. And built to win four games in the playoffs. Tressel ball did it 4 times for the Penguins
You ain’t lying. I would bet coach Tressel has been in his ear advising him. Only humble men can realize they don’t know it all and need all the help they can get.
Georgia fan here. Hats off to Notre Dame. They were the better team tonight. Saying that I would love to have the play back just before half. Why did they just take a knee and go in half down 6 -3? Cost us the game. But happy for Notre Dame fans . I am just exhausted with this years Georgia team. But GO DAWGS! FOREVER!
Gg Georgia you guys have been the gold standard in college football for years now. Glad we didn’t get an easy route to the semis and had to run into a beast in the sugar bowl
That's how it should be in the winner and take all the games. I can for the life of me understand how very, very, very little holding flags were thrown.
Go Irish. Shane Gillis said it best, now that we can all pay players the playing field has evened out. So great especially when all the southern boys have been calling us overrated for years
Because the SEC is not a team: UGA is a team, Bama is a team, Ole Miss is a team and they each individually do not have the best combinations of rosters and coaching staffs in the country this year.
The SEC and a couple Big 10 schools do, in fact, get the best players. There are recruiting ratings that demonstrate that ...... Texas cleaned up in this upcoming class, it should be fun times ahead.
I agree I also think he knew the type of caliber of team he was going to have the next several years and it just wasn’t up to par to the established Alabama culture. He knew it wasn’t going to get better and decide to leave on top. That’s just how it went down. 🤷🏽♂️
Texas fan here, that as a team that 100% deserves all flowers and deserves to be there. They should have just been able to host a 1st round game and not a bye. They will be back because Kenny D is special.
If the hit by taaffe was targeting, the hit on bond should be targeting as well. There were times that game where asu got away with some pretty game-changing things. For example, when that o-lineman pretty much just threw skat into the endzone which is against the rules and should’ve been a penalty. Again, skat got away with a pretty blatant OPI on taaffe on that 60 something yard pass. Skat literally slowed down mid run, pushes off taaffe, keeps running and catches the ball for a huge play. If that’s not OPI I don’t know what is and the refs still had the audacity to call DPI on taaffe. Then of course the missed targeting call on bond. The asu defender launched himself at a defenseless receiver and made forcible contact to the head/neck area. If we’re complaining about the missed call on the asu reciever let’s also take some time to look at some game changing calls asu got away with and not just cherry pick one no-call because people wanted the underdog story to come out on top. Let’s just stop pretending asu was perfect and face reality cause it gets to a point.
It isn't against the rules to aid the runner anymore buddy. That rule died several years ago. Yes the rule says you can't pull a runner but that penalty isn't one I've ever seen called in the last 2 years. It wasn't OPI on Skat it was defensive PI. Yes he slowed down to adjust to the ball because it was slightly underthrown. Texas got the PI call in their favor in the same situation when Ewers underthrew the ball and the ASU DB didn't look back. So I would say you don't know what OPI is.
@ watch the replay cause skat so obviously pushed off and was not just adjusting to the ball. Also just cause a penalty hasnt been called in a while does it make it obsolete?
@@hotdogfingers710 I did watch it. It wasn't even close to OPI. And yes if a penalty hasn't been called in 2 years, it is one the league has decided not to enforece.
I just want one analyst that viewed the game completely. Targeting on Bond, linemen downfield, linemen carrying backs into the endzone and endless penalties not called. Go watch the entire game again before commenting. Alot of analysts admitting they didn't watch the game without interruption. The UT targeting is not the deciding non call.
It absolutely was and you are simply coping and lying to yourself to pretend otherwise. There’s a reason why 90% of the people even discussing this call have the same exact opinion despite not being a fan of either team or having an actual dog in the fight. It’s not a massive conspiracy against Texas, it’s that it was absolutely a massive deciding in who won this game, if not THE overall deciding factor when given the time and momentum and game flow. It’s because that missed targeting on the ASU quarterback is something we have been told for a decade is “textbook targeting” and they couldn’t have made an AI videoclip to better explain what the rule book says. If there were ever a time for them to call their shitty targeting penalty, it was THAT play, and they let Texas get away with another bad call one more time like they have the entire year because Texas would bring the NCAA far more money than ASU. It was just a business decision, in the same way the referees saved Miami twice in two weeks earlier in the season. They called the big wigs at SECHQ to get the final word.
@@Black_Caucus if they were making the calls to try to ensure Texas won the game then why didn’t they call targeting on the hit on bond? Got some holes in your conspiracy there
@@Black_Caucuscare to explain the asu o lineman carrying skat into the endzone? Or how about when skat pushed off of taaffe on that huge pass play? Even better, explain the textbook targeting on bond. Would love to hear some explanation for those.
@@philipdillon83 so you’re agreeing they were the betting favorite and this appears to be an extreme reaction to a sportscaster saying he thought UGA would win, as did the majority of the country (52%)?
Chill bruh. You still got 2 big ten teams to conquer before you reach the promise land. And we're both pretty familiar with y'all's style of play. Won't be a problem playing in a mud runner game
@@lawrencematthes8948 dude I’ve thoroughly believed Ohio State was gonna win the natty since the 1st Quarter of the UT game. Y’all really think people care about conferences, when most of us just apply logic to the sport and support 1x team.
@@RollTideRoll_GSP You're right. The 2014-5 had OSU using their *third string* QB to win the Natty vs Oregon that year. Oh, yeah. He also roflcurbstomped Alabama too. 😉
First round bye seems like its actually a disadvantage to those teams who "earned" the bye... hard to be off of football nearly a month and then have to get up (physically and mentally) for a playoff game. Case in point, all the first round bye teams lost. And void of ASU waking up in the 4th quarter, all of them got handled.
Oregon wasn’t beating last year’s Michigan team. That’s bs and I’m an SEC homer. That Michigan team was the best coached team this decade and their defense was flawless.
Think about this, every team that had a first round bye lost. Every team that won their first round game also won their second round game. There's something to be said for meeting teams fresh from the high of a first round win when you've got rust from a month off.
Michigan and notre dame have brought balanced tough minded football back to the top and we are all better for it. Too many ppl think defense and run games are boring and if you can't throw for 300+ every game it means you suck. The truth is this is beautiful football the way it's supposed to be and our instant gratification culture had almost taken it from us completely.
Notre Dame is an example of a well coached team. Excellent defense, ball control offense that doesn’t commit turnovers, and great special teams that flips field position. They win all three sides every game which makes them impossible to beat
@MrPrime39773 Texas has modeled itself after the SEC for years that's why when they officially become part of the SEC they hit the ground running all the way to the SEC championship. It's the same thing with Clemson, they're a SEC team playing in the ACC.
The rose bowl would be a fabulous destination the vast majority of the time. There is a possibility that there’s an atmospheric river flowing over it for a week. It won’t be as much rain as in the south or MW, but it will be for most of a week straight. All that prep time as well as the game.
The SEC now has to rest all of its hopes on--as Ole Anderson once put it--"the outsider". Appropriate, given Tully was from Texas while the Horsemen cashed their checks in Atlanta.
Brilliant line “turn the volume up on what Notre Dame already was” and didn’t “sell that vision down the river”. Character and defence still wins championships - and ND recruits character on both sides of the ball.
All play off games should be on college campuses starting a week after championship week. Then make the rose bowl (super historic bowl on a national holiday) the national championship game. Then the bowl games and be for teams who miss the play offs. Through out Dec. this also fixes the calendar issue with college sports.
Hats off to Ohio State as an Oregon fan. More prepared and played to the ceiling of their talent level. Ohio State for sure wins the natty if they keep this up.
The Rose Bowl should ABSOLUTELY be the National Title game every year on NYD! Home playoff games. Get rid of the conference title games. Play more conference games determine conference champ that way. Start the playoff when the conference title games would be
And I don’t want to hear about the Bye Weeks being a weakness. These teams had the same amount of time off of teams like OSU had who didn’t play in their conference title game - 3 weeks. Simply have to be better.
I have no problem honoring such a traditional venue as is the Rose Bowl with the National Championship Game. I have life long memories growing up in Columbus, Ohio which as everyone knows is Big 10 country and we being the standard bearer of the Big 10 I have seen many Rose Bowl games that mattered more than any other game in a year and it was/is special.
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Pate St had us picked all year. Even hung with us after the first Oregon game. Only bailed after the Michigan debacle. Nothing wrong with that. So did most of buckeye nation. Myself included. I found it curious even after Tennessee Pate St still rolled with Oregon. I didn't. But to be honest, if I could have found Oregon +3.5 I would have bet it. Fortunately it didn't go that high. Now, I'll lay the points against Texas no matter how high it gets. With Georgia gone, it should be a duck walk, so to speak 😊 Neither Notre Dame nor Penn St can beat us. Period. We got their number! Just like we used to have Michigans. Or like they have had ours recently
Sorry Josh, I love your show, but your reaction to the Texas/Arizona State game was probably your weakest work all year. Next to zero analysis. Just fluff.
I think in order for it be targeting, there’s needs to be 3 or 4 things that are needed to be considered targeting. If the play checks 2 out of the 3 or 4 things, then it’s targeting.
lol no it wasn’t just as impactful, and that is assuming it even gets called for targeting because of how insane textbook the ASU one was versus that one. Simply not comparable if you actually watched flow of the game
@@Black_Caucus the hit on bond clearly met two of the indicators for targeting, the player launched and made forcible contact to the head of neck area, just as clear if not clearer than the hit on asu, I don’t know what game you watched but I was there and if that gets called targeting with 5 minutes left in the game asu might not have even got the ball again, it had a huge impact
Josh I would agree if it didn't cost $14 for a bag of peanuts and a soda. $19 for a "premium" beer. That's a bit steep. Plus accommodations. Plus local dining and travel to California... Yikes.
Tbf, all the better teams won... With all due respect to the first round byes and conference champs. OSU was ALWAYS a better team than Oregon just needed to put it together, Boise and ASU were overmatched, and UGA was limping really all year. Need to see a year where favorites go down.
Regarding the targeting call.. I wish you would have mentioned that Arizona State played the first half without their best defensive player due to a less egregious “targeting” call. Digest THAT!
“…on the sidelines. Hopefully they stayed out of the way…” 🤭🤣💀 this is why I love you, Pate…subtle jokes for the real college football faithful. Happy 2025. Hate the new system (NIL, TP, Playoffs, all of it) but it hasn’t destroyed my love of the game (yet). Thank you for all you do. Woo Pig.
It’s called Tressel Ball Used to beat the greatest college football Team in college history IRONICALLY, Urban Meyer’s Flying Circus at Florida, destroyed them in the Natty
As to Oregon… I remember the first year my wolverines made the playoffs and were welcomed with open jaws by the bulldogs. Our boys watched the confetti rain down and made up their minds about who they wanted to be. The next year, they blew off their own leg with silly play calls and first year QB errors… again.. they watched and they reset.. the next year they came out and went 15-0 beating Bama, and then shutting down Micheal Penix jr for the title. If Oregon can reset and refocus, 2 more years. IMO. Only issue is going to be the Wolverines and Buckeyes.. they aren’t going ANYWHERE anytime soon, and they are only getting stronger. The B10 over the next 3 seasons is going to be very entertaining! Go Blue!
We tried to tell all the announcers that just picked UGA to win this game just cause they were really good a few years ago. Don't do it. UGA has a bad rushing offense, don't you dare pick them when they will be forced to throw it to win this game. Nope, didn't listen.. Blown out by ND and embarrassed. If you can't run the ball, you will eventually get to a game against a team where you have to. This is how UGA lost most post season games before 2017 and now we are back there again with them. So, two years out from Stetson Bennett being gone and we are seeing the same issues on offense with UGA before Stetson Bennett came to UGA. Welp, 2nd countdown back to 1980 apparently already started when Stetson left. 38 more to go! lol.
You act like ND beat Georgia in the same fashion OSU beat both TN and Oregon, it wasn’t a blow out at all. Sure, if you’re a boxscore checker, it “looks” like ND won big, but if you actually watched the game, you’d know that the score was deceiving as hell and it was a much closer game than the box score shows. Both teams were pretty evenly matched, but ND happened to make just a few more plays in key moments that decided the game. And full credit to ND’s defense and special teams, they played lights all game. ND earned that win and won outright, props to em But it’s also true that had 1 or 2 plays went the other way, it’s a different game and Georgia could’ve won. It was very much in reach. UGA had 4 drives over 50+ yards, while ND’s longest was 49 yards and resulted in a FG. ETN who hadn’t fumbled before, fumbled for the first time inside the redzone. Very next UGA drive was a 67 yard pass down to the 11 yard line, but one of our sideline players got too close to the refs line and pushed us back 15 yards. Another self inflicted wound but ND defense did their job to hold UGA to a FG If literally one UGA player tackled Harrison or pushed him outta bounds on that kickoff return, the entire game flips completely. ND ran one single play in the redzone all game, it was the Stockton fumble right before half. And speaking of that fumble, there was 33 seconds left in the half in a 6-3 game, had UGA not went aggressive and just took a knee to send it to halftime, it changes the game, even if you keep the kickoff TD return the same, the outcome changes. ND played tough and won, and again, all the credit to them, they earned it, but acting like this was a beat down is crazy talk. If you want to see what a blow out is and a team getting embarrassed, that’d be Oregon
@@IFluxWithIt Well, for one, TN did score more on OSU than UGA scored on ND.. lol It was a blowout. Literally the same score margin TN and UGA had in Athens in 22. "OH TN was done blownout by UGA".. lol. So, sorry but 10 yards rushing in the first half?? Total? Sir, that's an azz kicking. This game wasn't even as close as the score indicated. 2-12 on third downs? The stats say this could have been way way worse. Your offense was abysmal. Your blocking was a joke. At no time was ND in danger of you catching them. You were outcoached and embarrassingly, Kirby didn't even know you could run that special teams play legally after an official time out.. Screaming like a moron on the sideline they could not switch out.. smh. Your rushing game has been crap all season, ranking in the 60's if not worse. You haven't been an elite passing offense in ages. You lost this game the same way as you did before Stetston Bennet was the QB and why you can't beat Bama. Your offense isn't dynamic and hasn't been. Once the game manager was gone, so was Todd Monken lol
@@IFluxWithIt You could move the ball for some yards between the 20's but 4 times in their side of the field, nothing. This means you couldn't overcome their redzone defense cause son, your shyte at running the ball!!! and your not skilled enough in passing to be a legit endzone passing threat. Your arguments is sickening to listen to. Just a bunch of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda". This is dumb coaching at it's finest and imo, it took a pandemic for this team to finally have more depth than most anyone else during the pandemic to win titles. UGA suffered almost no opt outs while entire teams were gutted of them. It was a beat down, blow out in key stats and at no point did you ever have a chance in this game. So yes, blowout and you never had any answers for stopping their offense or creating offense of your own. This wasn't OSU you played out there and not nearly as a deep of a team. You can lose to OSU and get blown out on the road there with a FR QB. OSU would have beaten UGA by 40 had you played them. No shame in losing to the eventual national champion with the deepest roster in college football. But at least at the half you felt TN could potentially make a run. Never felt that way in this game, one play into the 3rd quarter. lol. 10 points.. smh..
If targeting being enforced to the letter of the law ruins a game they may change it. Because it wasn't called in the Peach Bowl it won't be enough of an issue to warrant the rules committee even discussing it
WHY is there SO much discussion on one non-call by the refs and NO discussion about 1)ASU hit a defenseless WR on INT, no call. 2) ASU lineman pulls RB into end zone- illegal - no call, 3) O lineman downfield on ASU 2 pt try - no call, 4) Helmet hit to Ewers, no call, 5) ASU O line holding, no call - so yea it was the refs that cost ASU the game.
ASU played a hell of a game, but refs aren't why they lost. You are correct though: those refs sucked...but Texas needs to be able to control games like that--even when refs are blind.
Best possible scenario for Texas. Probably should’ve lost but showed the grit and heart to pull out the win in OT. There is now tons to coach as opposed to blowing out ASU. Texas will definitely be ready for Ohio State and don’t expect a blow out at all. If Ewers is consistent, OSU will have a fight on their hands…
I’m by no means a Texas fan but it almost seems like Josh is avoiding them. Didn’t go to either of their 2 biggest games of the year. Skipping them again in the semis
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Fix college ball:
Merge Mountain West and PAC12.
ND has to join a conference.
Salary Cap NIL 20mil per school for all sports combined.
2 year contract for all players unless the coach leaves or is fired.
Original school has to offer 4 year scholarship, so if the player wants to stay, he can.
The “Power 5” pay for full time, professional refs.
Every Power 5 plays a 9 game conference schedule with one out of conference power 5 opponent (Saves Rivalry’s like UGA vs GT and Clemson vs SC)
16 team play off:
Top 2 teams of each conference are in play off.
3rd and 4th ranked team in each conference has a play in game to take place of Conference championship games.
One at large bid given to group of five team.
BCS model seeds the playoff bracket.
Re-seed after each round.
Home games to higher seed until semi finals.
Commissioner board to over see it made of former coaches or athletic directors. One per conference.
We were robbed of a Sarah Mclachlan special. Ohio state treated them boys like duck hunter. We deserved more than a paper pop
@@buckeyeguy3471 yeah. What's up with that?!?!!
Completely agree!!!
@@lawrencematthes8948he works for CBS can’t make their biggest name look bad
Big Ten and Notre Dame leveled up with the SEC money.
They always had money they just couldn't go all out and use it.
@@Swagalious689 Urban Meyer says hi
This is what happens when other schools can pay players. Clearly the SEC was doing it under the table. That’s why good Saint Nick retired 😂🤣
What do you mean they leveled up with SEC money? As in they spent money the SEC earned? What exactly are you trying to say?
It's just the portal leveling out the competition
TROJAN FAN HERE,
First time in history The Irish are underrated
I agree as a clemson fan. We smoked them every time we played them in the 4 team playoff but they are clicking now
They’re overrated af it’s just nobody is very good this year lol. This is the worst playoff field in probably 15 years
Nobody cares about a Troy fan talking football
Maybe but can they continue the money to keep a team??
@@Ohhelmno lmfao your brain is dead dude. losers never win, but you know that.
The SEC is waaay down. The NIL and Portal have leveled the playing field. I have zero issue with this. There was waaaay to much SEC chirping and insulting going on by them. Soooo, when the rug got pulled on them and they got exposed, it made it much worse. Indiana played every bit as good as GA against ND. A little humble pie is in order.
You realize Georgia was using their backup quarterback. You do that to Indiana and they would lose by a lot more. But if’s and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a happy christmas
My azz. SC could drub 80% of the Big10 lol. YOu got what, one team in the Big10 that's legit. OSU. PSU is not even UGA and ND is an independent. Watch the NFL draft and tell me what happens every year isn't about to happen again. The SEC blows everyone out in the drafts. IU was a product scheduling. When they played someone they got destroyed. I could take any SEC team, including Vandy and have only one loss.. lol. You can buy an offense if you get the right QB and WR's, coach well. But it takes time to build a good defense. And yes, there is more parity. All the SEC were better than they have been, can't say that about the big10.
@@gwhite7136I hope you don't mean South Carolina? The same South Carolina that just lost to Illinois who was 5th in the Big 10?
On an average day, osu, psu, and Oregon would beat any sec team. Including georgia and Texas.
@@gwhite7136but about to be missing in the playoffs 😂😂
@@philipdillon83 Illinois was a ranked team and still is.. lol. You can't count Oregon. They been a pac12 for all their time except this year. so that's minus one team. Illinois had only it's 2nd 10 win season in history. So stop it.. lol PSU never beats anyone in the top 5. They are your borderline team. Wins the games they are supposed to but never beats UM and OSU with any regularity. That's pretty much it. lol. That is why the SEC has dominated college football for so long. And a year or two where an SEC team didn't win it all, doesn't change that the SEC is still the best conference.
Notre Dame is playing Tressel Ball of the early 2000’s. As an OSU fan who watched Freeman as a buckeye, this dude is playing tressel ball-run the ball, hit shots to stretch the defense to allow you to run (if possible), play rugged defense, win TO battle, and win the special teams. This is an approach to the game that OSU is very familiar
Well said. I'm old enough to remember Tressel ball at YSU. Nothing pretty. But amazingly effective. And built to win four games in the playoffs. Tressel ball did it 4 times for the Penguins
I believe Freeman played for Tressel...
You ain’t lying. I would bet coach Tressel has been in his ear advising him. Only humble men can realize they don’t know it all and need all the help they can get.
@theronr7464 he did
@@serialcarpens290 well he sure as hell ain't in days eat on Michigan week. if he is Day ain't listening .Tress was 9-1 against them.
Georgia fan here. Hats off to Notre Dame. They were the better team tonight. Saying that I would love to have the play back just before half. Why did they just take a knee and go in half down 6 -3? Cost us the game. But happy for Notre Dame fans . I am just exhausted with this years Georgia team. But GO DAWGS! FOREVER!
Dawgs ain't going nowhere man. Keep your heads up. LSU fan btw. Really pulling for y'all. It's gonna be alright.
Meaning GA has nothing to worry about. GA still great
It didn't cost you the game. ND still would've won.
Notre dame wasn’t really better. The difference was Stockton standing in the pocket for too long and a kick return
Gg Georgia you guys have been the gold standard in college football for years now. Glad we didn’t get an easy route to the semis and had to run into a beast in the sugar bowl
There were 2 targets by the rule in the Texas/ASU game. One on each team. Neither were called.
That's how it should be in the winner and take all the games. I can for the life of me understand how very, very, very little holding flags were thrown.
That Harambe mention was insane holy 😂😂
Go Irish. Shane Gillis said it best, now that we can all pay players the playing field has evened out. So great especially when all the southern boys have been calling us overrated for years
I thought I said that
Congratulations on your first legit team in 30 yeara...
But but but how could the SEC be overrated since they have a million times more talent than any other conference?
Not any more!!!
Because the SEC is not a team: UGA is a team, Bama is a team, Ole Miss is a team and they each individually do not have the best combinations of rosters and coaching staffs in the country this year.
@@MarkyMark1221 no way that's crazy.
The SEC and a couple Big 10 schools do, in fact, get the best players. There are recruiting ratings that demonstrate that ...... Texas cleaned up in this upcoming class, it should be fun times ahead.
It’s winning not who has the most talent that matters. Sec over rated by miles this year.
Byes are a death sentence, every single team started extremely slow
Same thing happens in the NFL, except when there is a clearly dominant team.
@@nevergiveupnevergivein7655Ravens and niners did good last year
Then how did Ohio State start strong against Tennessee after three weeks off? It’s just a media talking point excuse.
@@nicholas40304 Tennessee had the exact same amount of time off as Ohio lol, completely different than a game where one team played a week ago
Excuse
Everyone is paying players so now it a level playing field. Saban saw it coming and got out.
I agree I also think he knew the type of caliber of team he was going to have the next several years and it just wasn’t up to par to the established Alabama culture. He knew it wasn’t going to get better and decide to leave on top. That’s just how it went down. 🤷🏽♂️
ASU was like Rocky 1 ..... lost but felt like a winner cause no one thought they should be there.
Hats off to ASU…Skattaboo is a dawg and deserves his flowers
Good analogy
Texas fan here, that as a team that 100% deserves all flowers and deserves to be there. They should have just been able to host a 1st round game and not a bye. They will be back because Kenny D is special.
Can’t blame injuries for Georgia losing bud. The Irish are decimated with injury and still found a way to get it done
@@Andrew-pm9ws we were as healthy as we've been all year. Georgia was not elite this year. Good team with grit. That's all.
@@champ2319we just lost a defensive captain and starting lineman bro. Literally last game. And love is barely playing rn.
@@philipdillon83he was not arguing the statement. He was talking about his own team. 😂😂😂😂
So if he admits sec is overrated that means the strength of schedule was complete bullshit.
Look at Indiana’s schedule and come double down on this statement. We’ll wait.
@@clu63look at Georgia’s strength of schedule
@mastershake1G you think any conference is going to have more draft picks than the SEC?
@@southernpridegamingmore draft picks? Lmfao how far you’ve fallen
@@clu63ok… Indiana beat Michigan. Yep, you lost this argument.
If the hit by taaffe was targeting, the hit on bond should be targeting as well. There were times that game where asu got away with some pretty game-changing things. For example, when that o-lineman pretty much just threw skat into the endzone which is against the rules and should’ve been a penalty. Again, skat got away with a pretty blatant OPI on taaffe on that 60 something yard pass. Skat literally slowed down mid run, pushes off taaffe, keeps running and catches the ball for a huge play. If that’s not OPI I don’t know what is and the refs still had the audacity to call DPI on taaffe. Then of course the missed targeting call on bond. The asu defender launched himself at a defenseless receiver and made forcible contact to the head/neck area. If we’re complaining about the missed call on the asu reciever let’s also take some time to look at some game changing calls asu got away with and not just cherry pick one no-call because people wanted the underdog story to come out on top. Let’s just stop pretending asu was perfect and face reality cause it gets to a point.
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It isn't against the rules to aid the runner anymore buddy. That rule died several years ago. Yes the rule says you can't pull a runner but that penalty isn't one I've ever seen called in the last 2 years. It wasn't OPI on Skat it was defensive PI. Yes he slowed down to adjust to the ball because it was slightly underthrown. Texas got the PI call in their favor in the same situation when Ewers underthrew the ball and the ASU DB didn't look back. So I would say you don't know what OPI is.
@ watch the replay cause skat so obviously pushed off and was not just adjusting to the ball. Also just cause a penalty hasnt been called in a while does it make it obsolete?
@@hotdogfingers710 I did watch it. It wasn't even close to OPI. And yes if a penalty hasn't been called in 2 years, it is one the league has decided not to enforece.
I just want one analyst that viewed the game completely. Targeting on Bond, linemen downfield, linemen carrying backs into the endzone and endless penalties not called. Go watch the entire game again before commenting. Alot of analysts admitting they didn't watch the game without interruption. The UT targeting is not the deciding non call.
I mean, it was. Womp womp, go cry about it.
It absolutely was and you are simply coping and lying to yourself to pretend otherwise. There’s a reason why 90% of the people even discussing this call have the same exact opinion despite not being a fan of either team or having an actual dog in the fight. It’s not a massive conspiracy against Texas, it’s that it was absolutely a massive deciding in who won this game, if not THE overall deciding factor when given the time and momentum and game flow.
It’s because that missed targeting on the ASU quarterback is something we have been told for a decade is “textbook targeting” and they couldn’t have made an AI videoclip to better explain what the rule book says. If there were ever a time for them to call their shitty targeting penalty, it was THAT play, and they let Texas get away with another bad call one more time like they have the entire year because Texas would bring the NCAA far more money than ASU. It was just a business decision, in the same way the referees saved Miami twice in two weeks earlier in the season. They called the big wigs at SECHQ to get the final word.
@@Black_Caucus if they were making the calls to try to ensure Texas won the game then why didn’t they call targeting on the hit on bond? Got some holes in your conspiracy there
@@Black_Caucuscare to explain the asu o lineman carrying skat into the endzone? Or how about when skat pushed off of taaffe on that huge pass play? Even better, explain the textbook targeting on bond. Would love to hear some explanation for those.
@@Black_Caucus so the hit on Bond was equally egregious...right? Save the selective outrage.
HEY PATE?? PATE OLE BOY?? QUESTION?? Do you still have Georgia beating Notre Dame??????
Most of the country did, so I don’t think this is the flex you think it is…
@clu63 before the game espn had them as a 1 point favorite and foi gave then a 52% chance to win. So no, most of the country didn't.
@@philipdillon83 so you’re agreeing they were the betting favorite and this appears to be an extreme reaction to a sportscaster saying he thought UGA would win, as did the majority of the country (52%)?
Chill bruh. You still got 2 big ten teams to conquer before you reach the promise land. And we're both pretty familiar with y'all's style of play. Won't be a problem playing in a mud runner game
@@lawrencematthes8948 dude I’ve thoroughly believed Ohio State was gonna win the natty since the 1st Quarter of the UT game.
Y’all really think people care about conferences, when most of us just apply logic to the sport and support 1x team.
Love to see SEC dominance: needing OT to beat the Big 12 champ and getting manhandled by an independent
You’re correct but notre dame isn’t just any independent, you’re speaking like ND is UMASS
Bro, there isn’t a single team in the playoff who can win with a backup QB…maybe Texas!
@@skii1410 well it's Notre Dame first Big bowl win in my lifetime so the odds are heavily stacked against them
@@skii1410ND hasn’t been this relevant in a long time dude….
@@RollTideRoll_GSP You're right. The 2014-5 had OSU using their *third string* QB to win the Natty vs Oregon that year. Oh, yeah. He also roflcurbstomped Alabama too. 😉
First round bye seems like its actually a disadvantage to those teams who "earned" the bye... hard to be off of football nearly a month and then have to get up (physically and mentally) for a playoff game. Case in point, all the first round bye teams lost. And void of ASU waking up in the 4th quarter, all of them got handled.
There wasn’t any upsets through. Texas, Penn State, OSU and ND were all favored to win
It's the teams that got the byes versus the system itself.
If they made regular BCS bowl games they would have had the same break.
Ohio State had three weeks off after Michigan and destroyed Tennessee. It’s just a media driven excuse.
Just gotta say, major props to you for owning where you were wrong. Not everyone has the balls to do that. Love the show as well!
Your comments on college tradition brought like-minded tears to my eyes. Thank you, Josh. This is why this Buckeye listens to your shows.
The end of the 3rd quarter visual of the rose bowl is the most beautiful scene in sports!
ND was up 6 to 3 Josh not that wack team
Oregon wasn’t beating last year’s Michigan team. That’s bs and I’m an SEC homer. That Michigan team was the best coached team this decade and their defense was flawless.
“They fell into the enclosure” was such a good line. Need to have a weekly segment called “Harambe’s Enclosure”
Think about this, every team that had a first round bye lost.
Every team that won their first round game also won their second round game.
There's something to be said for meeting teams fresh from the high of a first round win when you've got rust from a month off.
Michigan and notre dame have brought balanced tough minded football back to the top and we are all better for it. Too many ppl think defense and run games are boring and if you can't throw for 300+ every game it means you suck. The truth is this is beautiful football the way it's supposed to be and our instant gratification culture had almost taken it from us completely.
Notre Dame is an example of a well coached team. Excellent defense, ball control offense that doesn’t commit turnovers, and great special teams that flips field position. They win all three sides every game which makes them impossible to beat
NIU ???
@@chrislachat459teams evolve.
ND fan here, clean up the penalties coach
@chrislachat459 and who's your team? To say that means they can beat Georgia too 😅😅😅
@@chrislachat459Michigan haunts your dreams
IDK how, but quarterfinals should be on campus too.
Negative sir, no targeting! Unless you are willing to admit it was targeting on Bond.
100%.. Taafe made a form tackle on the ball carrier
Wow SEC kings are out..lol
Texas still lurking around out there 😂
@jimmyc1518 man that's a big 12 team. Stop the cap. One bad no call got them still in it.
@MrPrime39773 Texas has modeled itself after the SEC for years that's why when they officially become part of the SEC they hit the ground running all the way to the SEC championship. It's the same thing with Clemson, they're a SEC team playing in the ACC.
Go Irish!
Let it be known if pate is coming to your game someone is getting blown out
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Interesting to consider tOSU, and buying the elite depth in the NIL, when discussing Georgia and the effects of NIL.
ND is SEC daddy
First time they beat the SEC in postseason in forever….like decades!
@@RollTideRoll_GSPlook at this Alabama fan go buckeyes !!!!!!!
@@Jaylikethat4krespectfully how are the Bama fans still this arrogant.
Ohio St is Notre Dame s daddy. To clarify. The BIG 10 is the secs Daddy
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Can't get enough of that
When you were talking about the Rose Bowl, I closed my eyes and pretended you were talking about Dabo Swinney and couldn’t help but smile 😊
The rose bowl would be a fabulous destination the vast majority of the time. There is a possibility that there’s an atmospheric river flowing over it for a week. It won’t be as much rain as in the south or MW, but it will be for most of a week straight. All that prep time as well as the game.
The portal makes sense for College football student athletes, less so the pro teams. School starts in a couple weeks and conditioning season begins.
Look at how Saban retiring has affected the entire spectrum of college football.
The puppies got taken to the pound. Complete masterclass
The SEC now has to rest all of its hopes on--as Ole Anderson once put it--"the outsider". Appropriate, given Tully was from Texas while the Horsemen cashed their checks in Atlanta.
@@badladyamiAre you a dawg fan by chance?
Bro did y’all not get taken to school by the dawgs twice??
@@gagejernigan5277How is that relevant in the playoffs? Texas is still playing and those puppies are sent straight to the pound.
@@jay____l Nope. Went to a school with no football program. I enjoy schadenfraude. Also, allegories.
Rose bowl being the title game imo takes away the luster of it being a special bowl game
Brilliant line “turn the volume up on what Notre Dame already was” and didn’t “sell that vision down the river”. Character and defence still wins championships - and ND recruits character on both sides of the ball.
Lot of bad games but Ohio state and notre dame would have been out in old format means something
if it was the old format it would have been 1. Oregon 2. Georgia 3. Penn St 4 Notre Dame. Boise and ASU wouldn't have been ranked top 4
@jagtheboss1016 the final commitee rankings had texas in the top 4
What a strange season. Everybody could beat anyone at any given time. Because of NIL and the portal I got a feeling this is becoming the norm.
Josh Pate for college football commissioner!
Oregon is so nice they proudly display their national title number center field at Autzen.
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They sure do! 😂
25 uniform combinations. Zero national championships. 😏
All play off games should be on college campuses starting a week after championship week. Then make the rose bowl (super historic bowl on a national holiday) the national championship game. Then the bowl games and be for teams who miss the play offs. Through out Dec. this also fixes the calendar issue with college sports.
Yes, they still race at Pocono. A awesome, weird race every year.
Hats off to Ohio State as an Oregon fan. More prepared and played to the ceiling of their talent level. Ohio State for sure wins the natty if they keep this up.
The Rose Bowl should ABSOLUTELY be the National Title game every year on NYD! Home playoff games. Get rid of the conference title games. Play more conference games determine conference champ that way. Start the playoff when the conference title games would be
And I don’t want to hear about the Bye Weeks being a weakness. These teams had the same amount of time off of teams like OSU had who didn’t play in their conference title game - 3 weeks. Simply have to be better.
The rose bowl should always be one of the semi-finals sites along with the peach bowl
Not addressing the sec is hilarious
I have no problem honoring such a traditional venue as is the Rose Bowl with the National Championship Game. I have life long memories growing up in Columbus, Ohio which as everyone knows is Big 10 country and we being the standard bearer of the Big 10 I have seen many Rose Bowl games that mattered more than any other game in a year and it was/is special.
🤣😂🤣…Yes! Yes! Yes! To the next Commissioner of CFB - The Benevolent Commissioner, I Heartily Endorse Josh Pate‼️ And I Recommend the National Championship of College Football Be Permanently Relocated to the Rose Bowl‼️ A Spectacular Venue and Fitting Conclusion to a CFB Season!
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Pate St had us picked all year. Even hung with us after the first Oregon game. Only bailed after the Michigan debacle. Nothing wrong with that. So did most of buckeye nation. Myself included. I found it curious even after Tennessee Pate St still rolled with Oregon. I didn't. But to be honest, if I could have found Oregon +3.5 I would have bet it. Fortunately it didn't go that high. Now, I'll lay the points against Texas no matter how high it gets. With Georgia gone, it should be a duck walk, so to speak 😊 Neither Notre Dame nor Penn St can beat us. Period. We got their number! Just like we used to have Michigans. Or like they have had ours recently
I love what you had to say about the rose bowl. I hope they remain steadfast for the rest of college football's time
Please don’t pick the Irish in either of the next two rounds! I want to see another ND championship
Josh created the Pate curse. 😂😂😂
Marcus Freeman and James Franklin are 0-8 vs Ryan Day…y’all have been this man’s job security the last 3 years 😭
Padlock stat says ND will win it all😂
😂😂😂Ohio state will beat ND by 30
@ good one. Bet Ohio State -29 and see how it works out for you
“Hopefully they stayed out the way on the side line” 😂 shady
Ohh man, Penn state vs ND for a title shot? Takes me back to the 90s type of feel for CFB🎉
Columbus, Ohio viewer. Lifelong diehard Buckeye fan and very proud of my Buckeyes performance in the playoff! Let's go win it all! Go Bucks!
Agreed, the hit on Isaiah Bond should have been targeting!
So should the hit on the ASU receiver in the fourth quarter.
@@josephmoya5098 that wouldn’t have happened if the targeting on bond was called
@@hotdogfingers710 It might have. The potential targeting on Bond occured after the interception, so the interception would have stood.
@@josephmoya5098Strongly disagree Taafe made a form tackle on the ball carrier… He did not launch, he wrapped up completely
Georgia was two mistakes from winning. Our defense was still lights out the whole game.
Sorry Josh, I love your show, but your reaction to the Texas/Arizona State game was probably your weakest work all year. Next to zero analysis. Just fluff.
Trippin
He basically admits he didn’t watch all of it
The SEC WAS overrated
SEC teams can't hoard talent anymore. Good players are going to transfer elsewhere if they don't see a reasonable path to the field.
I think in order for it be targeting, there’s needs to be 3 or 4 things that are needed to be considered targeting. If the play checks 2 out of the 3 or 4 things, then it’s targeting.
If you pick multiple teams to win the national championship, I guess you CAN be correct EVENTUALLY..
Gus Johnson is THE announcer. Joe Tess is good, but Gus is the best.
Franklin could still get a signature win next week...
But Notre Dame clears>>>>>
The Rose Bowl makes Michigan's win even more hilarious 〽️〽️〽️〽️
Josh Pate for president?
No one wants to talk about how the no call targeting on the hit on Isaiah bond wasn’t just as bad and impactful
It wasn’t bc it would have still bean a pick lol
@calebcross-q3b nah the offense keeps the ball, the only instance I think that isn’t the case is if the qb slides on 4th down.
lol no it wasn’t just as impactful, and that is assuming it even gets called for targeting because of how insane textbook the ASU one was versus that one. Simply not comparable if you actually watched flow of the game
@@Black_Caucus the hit on bond clearly met two of the indicators for targeting, the player launched and made forcible contact to the head of neck area, just as clear if not clearer than the hit on asu, I don’t know what game you watched but I was there and if that gets called targeting with 5 minutes left in the game asu might not have even got the ball again, it had a huge impact
@Black_Caucus shouldn't be calling a text book tackle (face up) targeting. They should revamp that rule for clarity
Where’s the desk? Are they safe?
Big 10 is the future of CFB….# GO BUCKS
Josh I would agree if it didn't cost $14 for a bag of peanuts and a soda. $19 for a "premium" beer. That's a bit steep. Plus accommodations. Plus local dining and travel to California... Yikes.
Tbf, all the better teams won... With all due respect to the first round byes and conference champs. OSU was ALWAYS a better team than Oregon just needed to put it together, Boise and ASU were overmatched, and UGA was limping really all year. Need to see a year where favorites go down.
Regarding the targeting call.. I wish you would have mentioned that Arizona State played the first half without their best defensive player due to a less egregious “targeting” call. Digest THAT!
“…on the sidelines. Hopefully they stayed out of the way…” 🤭🤣💀 this is why I love you, Pate…subtle jokes for the real college football faithful. Happy 2025. Hate the new system (NIL, TP, Playoffs, all of it) but it hasn’t destroyed my love of the game (yet).
Thank you for all you do. Woo Pig.
It’s called Tressel Ball
Used to beat the greatest college football Team in college history
IRONICALLY, Urban Meyer’s Flying Circus at Florida, destroyed them in the Natty
As to Oregon… I remember the first year my wolverines made the playoffs and were welcomed with open jaws by the bulldogs. Our boys watched the confetti rain down and made up their minds about who they wanted to be. The next year, they blew off their own leg with silly play calls and first year QB errors… again.. they watched and they reset.. the next year they came out and went 15-0 beating Bama, and then shutting down Micheal Penix jr for the title. If Oregon can reset and refocus, 2 more years. IMO. Only issue is going to be the Wolverines and Buckeyes.. they aren’t going ANYWHERE anytime soon, and they are only getting stronger. The B10 over the next 3 seasons is going to be very entertaining! Go Blue!
54:05 does Pate know Riley Green Green is an Auburn fan? Maybe he should listen to the song Georgia Time.
We tried to tell all the announcers that just picked UGA to win this game just cause they were really good a few years ago. Don't do it. UGA has a bad rushing offense, don't you dare pick them when they will be forced to throw it to win this game. Nope, didn't listen.. Blown out by ND and embarrassed. If you can't run the ball, you will eventually get to a game against a team where you have to. This is how UGA lost most post season games before 2017 and now we are back there again with them. So, two years out from Stetson Bennett being gone and we are seeing the same issues on offense with UGA before Stetson Bennett came to UGA. Welp, 2nd countdown back to 1980 apparently already started when Stetson left. 38 more to go! lol.
You act like ND beat Georgia in the same fashion OSU beat both TN and Oregon, it wasn’t a blow out at all. Sure, if you’re a boxscore checker, it “looks” like ND won big, but if you actually watched the game, you’d know that the score was deceiving as hell and it was a much closer game than the box score shows.
Both teams were pretty evenly matched, but ND happened to make just a few more plays in key moments that decided the game. And full credit to ND’s defense and special teams, they played lights all game. ND earned that win and won outright, props to em
But it’s also true that had 1 or 2 plays went the other way, it’s a different game and Georgia could’ve won. It was very much in reach.
UGA had 4 drives over 50+ yards, while ND’s longest was 49 yards and resulted in a FG. ETN who hadn’t fumbled before, fumbled for the first time inside the redzone.
Very next UGA drive was a 67 yard pass down to the 11 yard line, but one of our sideline players got too close to the refs line and pushed us back 15 yards. Another self inflicted wound but ND defense did their job to hold UGA to a FG
If literally one UGA player tackled Harrison or pushed him outta bounds on that kickoff return, the entire game flips completely. ND ran one single play in the redzone all game, it was the Stockton fumble right before half.
And speaking of that fumble, there was 33 seconds left in the half in a 6-3 game, had UGA not went aggressive and just took a knee to send it to halftime, it changes the game, even if you keep the kickoff TD return the same, the outcome changes.
ND played tough and won, and again, all the credit to them, they earned it, but acting like this was a beat down is crazy talk. If you want to see what a blow out is and a team getting embarrassed, that’d be Oregon
@@IFluxWithIt Well, for one, TN did score more on OSU than UGA scored on ND.. lol It was a blowout. Literally the same score margin TN and UGA had in Athens in 22. "OH TN was done blownout by UGA".. lol. So, sorry but 10 yards rushing in the first half?? Total? Sir, that's an azz kicking.
This game wasn't even as close as the score indicated. 2-12 on third downs? The stats say this could have been way way worse. Your offense was abysmal. Your blocking was a joke. At no time was ND in danger of you catching them.
You were outcoached and embarrassingly, Kirby didn't even know you could run that special teams play legally after an official time out.. Screaming like a moron on the sideline they could not switch out.. smh.
Your rushing game has been crap all season, ranking in the 60's if not worse. You haven't been an elite passing offense in ages. You lost this game the same way as you did before Stetston Bennet was the QB and why you can't beat Bama. Your offense isn't dynamic and hasn't been. Once the game manager was gone, so was Todd Monken lol
@@IFluxWithIt You could move the ball for some yards between the 20's but 4 times in their side of the field, nothing. This means you couldn't overcome their redzone defense cause son, your shyte at running the ball!!! and your not skilled enough in passing to be a legit endzone passing threat. Your arguments is sickening to listen to. Just a bunch of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda". This is dumb coaching at it's finest and imo, it took a pandemic for this team to finally have more depth than most anyone else during the pandemic to win titles. UGA suffered almost no opt outs while entire teams were gutted of them. It was a beat down, blow out in key stats and at no point did you ever have a chance in this game. So yes, blowout and you never had any answers for stopping their offense or creating offense of your own. This wasn't OSU you played out there and not nearly as a deep of a team. You can lose to OSU and get blown out on the road there with a FR QB. OSU would have beaten UGA by 40 had you played them. No shame in losing to the eventual national champion with the deepest roster in college football. But at least at the half you felt TN could potentially make a run. Never felt that way in this game, one play into the 3rd quarter. lol. 10 points.. smh..
If targeting being enforced to the letter of the law ruins a game they may change it. Because it wasn't called in the Peach Bowl it won't be enough of an issue to warrant the rules committee even discussing it
WHY is there SO much discussion on one non-call by the refs and NO discussion about 1)ASU hit a defenseless WR on INT, no call. 2) ASU lineman pulls RB into end zone- illegal - no call, 3) O lineman downfield on ASU 2 pt try - no call, 4) Helmet hit to Ewers, no call, 5) ASU O line holding, no call - so yea it was the refs that cost ASU the game.
Womp womp, yall could have lost to a an angry dwarf and his FCS level crew.
You better call the wambulance.
ASU played a hell of a game, but refs aren't why they lost. You are correct though: those refs sucked...but Texas needs to be able to control games like that--even when refs are blind.
Plenty of officials throw targeting flags for much less vicious hits, like Georgia in the first Texas game.
Maybe getting a bye week is a bad idea. I imagine teams might throw the champ games next year to not have a bye 😂
Do you think this might be too many games that QB and lines get so beat up that they aren’t the same teams?
can confirm, Zevia is the plural form of Zevium
Can’t blame depth for Georgia - Notre Dame was down 4 captains on their defense by the end of the game. 4 captains! Morrison, Mills, Cross, and Watts.
Asu got screwed. That was the definition of targeting. That puts them easily in fg attempt range and a good chance at a walkoff win.
Not surprised Oregon got handled.
NASCAR still races at Pocono lol
Love the Talladega comparison
Harambe mentioned, we are so back
That's why it's an opinion. The advantage is being in the tournament. That's why those on the outside cried so hard . Having a case to argue or not.
Best possible scenario for Texas. Probably should’ve lost but showed the grit and heart to pull out the win in OT. There is now tons to coach as opposed to blowing out ASU. Texas will definitely be ready for Ohio State and don’t expect a blow out at all. If Ewers is consistent, OSU will have a fight on their hands…
I’m by no means a Texas fan but it almost seems like Josh is avoiding them. Didn’t go to either of their 2 biggest games of the year. Skipping them again in the semis
The reason everyone was so suspect on ND is because of that NIU loss. They don’t lose that and they probably land a higher seed and a tougher road.