Brad Pitt is surrounded by a Warhammer 40K Ciricrux Anima shield that warps all reality itself to protect the user. No German weapon could ever hope to pierce his tanks, and most importantly no enemy could escape the psychic effects of the psi-shield, which turned them into mindless zombies incapable of tactics or problem solving.
@@leonardogandini147well like slapping tracks on in random places, it may break it up enough to make a slight difference but no, probably won’t matter much. Still would be cool to see just in case it’s better than we think
Like to see the effect of it striking a few cm lower and hitting the join between the upper glacial and the additional armour around the drivers position.
Dejmian ever thought about doing some small arms simulations too? For example .30 M2 AP vs the side armor of an Sd.Kfz. 251 at a range of 100m? That would be pretty interesting.
Yep, just as expected that is almost 300mm of LOS armor, it's a 1/2 pen as it's exactly the limit of penetration for that round, nice sim but quite easy to predict 😅
watch out for WT players calling this a fake simulation, because they think volumetric in WT is innacurate, and that this should have gone through.. anyways, great vid
This has nothing to do with volumetric. Some other videos had hitting the edge of plates. Either way, unless that side plate is thicker than the round, the shell will go through, just not very well. But enough fragments will fly in. WT volumetric is broken as it's a complete non-pen
I would love to see Object 292's APFSDS against the turret armour of the Abrams. Both of these are the gold standard of armour penetration and armour in general. Also, the 152mm gun was apparently going to be used on the Molot, the Soviet response to the Abrams.
Did you get this idea from War Thunder? I usually kill is-4s with my jagdtiger by shooting the driver's hatch, but you have to hit higher up just a little beneath the very angled part to be able to pen. Cool simulation as always btw.
how is no one talking about how the shell and the shattered pieces of metal in the thumbnail look like an eye ? I got startled when I saw it while scrolling
WT players when a soviet tank can't be penned in game while a simulation shows it can be penned: *RUSSIAN BIAS!!!* WT players when a soviet tank can't be penned in reality while a in game can be penned: *cricket noises*
90% of those simulations that "show a soviet tank can be penned" are just partial penetrations as well, which anyone with a brain would have noticed are not modeled in War Thunder and so get rounded up or down, usually down. This is applied to literally every vehicle of every nation, but apparently it's Russian bias.
Thinking about it, the IS-7 was the Soviet equivalent of the E-100, with the 130mm and lesser all round armor that is purely focused at the front. While the IS-4 was the Maus equivalent with a 122mm with armor being strong all around the vehicle.
@@Simply-a-guy The 122 isn't significantly weaker, the one that the IS-4 uses should be able to penetrate around 250mm of steel I think, could be wrong though
@@exoticdachoo007 no disrespect, but its look like your source are from WoT with that 122mm that look like 279 gun, the real is-4 gun are just normal D-25T gun with different shell, (APCBC or probably a better APHEBC)
@@Simply-a-guy No disrespect taken. They aren't, don't play WoT. I just know the gun the IS-4 uses probably has an upgraded shell in comparison to the IS-2 and maybe even 3 but they could be the same can't remember.
@@exoticdachoo007 from what i remember from Googles and war thunder it was around 190-205mm, i think it could be near 250mm though, probably 230mm or more
Shouldn't the bullet fall slightly from above? The Maus gun is significantly higher than the IS4 hull, and the greater the distance, the more favorable the penetration angle.
How would you get a simulation software such as this, I am a Mechanical Engineer and I think that this content is very interesting to me, but Aswell, I like to design and test things, there's a lot of ideas flowing around on things that could be groundbreaking, if you aren't willing to share that is alright.
An edge causes the force to be spread out in several directions instead of being focused at one point. Even if they're firing an explosive shell, since the blast isn't focused, it caused less damage..it would wipe out any infantry who were around, but as far as damage, the tank would sit & laugh at you... Simple angles that redirect the force might make all the difference... Think about the tip of an rpg hitting the tip of a triangle 🔺️ - it would still explode, & probably eat away some of the triangle, but now the shaped charge AND the force is cut in half, instead of being a FULL blast. A troop vehicle would still be screwed, but a tank could survive. Problem is that the tip on an rpg warhead is small... So it punches thru stuff... that means you need bigger triangles to deflect, or spaced armor or something behind it. You HAVE to spread out the blast force so it has less power...
@@kimjanek646 yes and no, depends on the situation, you have to remember that the material at the edge has little resistance, so it slows down the shell less
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 Yeah but in this situation it seems to be the case. Or will you do another simulation, to show whether it had an affect or not? It's funny but depending on the circumstances, making a material "weaker" can actually make it better for it's designed purpose. So for deflecting the shell, the edge actually seems to help with that, while for flat plate, it's probably worse since it just offers less resistance.
So why is that a weakspot in game? I get penned by pretty much everything in an is-4m gaijin really fucked that tanks armour model up. Certain parts of the angled side front armour goes as low as 20mm ... Which certainly should not be the case.
@@Einheit101 I get that. This video showed that the 128mm struggles to do much....yet I get penned by 88mm rounds. Or auto cannon fire...😅 As I said. The armour model has holes along the mudguards ... Bringing the armour down to just 20mm...
@@Tigglesmith I don't know which Abrams you mean, but the one with the known armor, the M1 was almost penetrated by the 128mm, so the battleship shell is an exaggeration
The driver turned orange. Nothing ever happens
"Hit"
Yes! A hit!
Chudthunder
Orange???? Dude that's CLEARLY a ricochet
For once the driver is not tomato sauce
I voted for 🛡️
0:46 good chance he's at least blind though from the shrapnel that's hitting the telltale orange piece
he is, look at the spalling!
@@WhatTrigger not sauce tho 😄
@@Littleginkgobiloba pulled pork is not tomato sauce!
Would've be interesting to see a simulation about the Americanium log on Brad Pit's sherman that stopped an 88mm to see how realistic it was.
If a 120mm straight plate can't stop an 88, imagine a log.
Brad Pitt is surrounded by a Warhammer 40K Ciricrux Anima shield that warps all reality itself to protect the user. No German weapon could ever hope to pierce his tanks, and most importantly no enemy could escape the psychic effects of the psi-shield, which turned them into mindless zombies incapable of tactics or problem solving.
@@leonardogandini147well like slapping tracks on in random places, it may break it up enough to make a slight difference but no, probably won’t matter much. Still would be cool to see just in case it’s better than we think
@@GetOutterMeHouseslapping tracks on random places were for HEAT rounds
Like to see the effect of it striking a few cm lower and hitting the join between the upper glacial and the additional armour around the drivers position.
Driver could use some cream/lotion to get rid of black dots after that.
And perfume to mask the shit in his pants.
Didnt pen, but driver is incapacitated cuz new holes have appeared on his face.
And that driver's hatch isn't opening ever again . . .
@@Supersean0001
It's not really a hatch anyway.
More like an observation cupola.
The driver is safe but sealed forever in his compartment 😅
yep cant see and cant open hatch soso drive blind after
@@zhearsonist1669 there are indentations in the witness plate, which indicates damage to the skull, perhaps penetration
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 would a helmet help
Might not be dead. Depends where he was hit. Given the position of the periscope, maybe at his jaw. So he will be out of the war but alive.
A tank with about the same mass of a Tiger I with this kind of armor. Soviet engineers sure designed some impressive vehicles.
was wondering where the voice over was, realized it wasn't SY
Kek. I always confuse the two. Both make very high quality simulations.
Genuine brown pants moment.
I was not expecting this
The driver is probably still alive after that! Though he probably needs a new pair of trousers.
Those pieces went through his skull
Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!
Dejmian ever thought about doing some small arms simulations too? For example .30 M2 AP vs the side armor of an Sd.Kfz. 251 at a range of 100m? That would be pretty interesting.
Yep, just as expected that is almost 300mm of LOS armor, it's a 1/2 pen as it's exactly the limit of penetration for that round, nice sim but quite easy to predict 😅
Didn't pen, but the drivers face is now perforated. And his hatch is busted
A recent IS-4 video did state the Russians tested the IS-4’s armor against the German 128mm and it failed to penetrate the IS-4’s front armor.
It depends on the angle and distance.
the ringing inside the tank would blow my eardrums
watch out for WT players calling this a fake simulation, because they think volumetric in WT is innacurate, and that this should have gone through..
anyways, great vid
Well volumetric is far from qn accurate mechanic. But Warthunder has many other issues too
actually in my experience shooting conventional shells through that spot has been a hit or miss exactly because of the volumetric.
In WT this same shot is a kill.
I mean, this isn't volumetric, the IS-4 is just extremely heavily armored. Now, the TIGER driver's port...
This has nothing to do with volumetric. Some other videos had hitting the edge of plates. Either way, unless that side plate is thicker than the round, the shell will go through, just not very well. But enough fragments will fly in. WT volumetric is broken as it's a complete non-pen
significant emotional event
Holy crap 5 full days of render on the cpu?!
Imagine the same shell without that huge explosive cavity to weaken it, I wonder how well that would perform.
The driver could survive the spalling if he quickly turned his head.
I would love to see Object 292's APFSDS against the turret armour of the Abrams. Both of these are the gold standard of armour penetration and armour in general. Also, the 152mm gun was apparently going to be used on the Molot, the Soviet response to the Abrams.
@@Firespectrum122 the turret of the modern Abrams is not well known. Against the M1 it is an exaggeration
The LP-83 never had any APFSDS made for it. The 2A83 had Grifel series
Did you get this idea from War Thunder? I usually kill is-4s with my jagdtiger by shooting the driver's hatch, but you have to hit higher up just a little beneath the very angled part to be able to pen. Cool simulation as always btw.
how is no one talking about how the shell and the shattered pieces of metal in the thumbnail look like an eye ?
I got startled when I saw it while scrolling
Damn wasnt expecting it to tank
"hit"
122mm BR-471B vs Maus turret cheeks
Pixel games realism in one video
DM53 vs object-279 on a reverse side scraping position on an almost ricochet angle when?
Awesome video
WT players when a soviet tank can't be penned in game while a simulation shows it can be penned: *RUSSIAN BIAS!!!*
WT players when a soviet tank can't be penned in reality while a in game can be penned: *cricket noises*
90% of those simulations that "show a soviet tank can be penned" are just partial penetrations as well, which anyone with a brain would have noticed are not modeled in War Thunder and so get rounded up or down, usually down. This is applied to literally every vehicle of every nation, but apparently it's Russian bias.
Would you consider doing a video comparing spall liner vs no spall liner with a wittness plate to see how much they reduce spalling?
That driver is going to be knocked the fk out though
Gaijin! The IS4 shouldn't get penned by Pzgr43 and this simulations shows that!
Gaijin: if we remove the weakspot, we need to raise the BR
@@christians.597 and then the entire front plate is the weakspot XD Love the game hate the dev
My 100m Obus Rupture going through that like a hot knife through butter
Hey Denjamin what do you use to create these simulations?
@@GaijinSlave ansys
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 thanks
Now do the exact same simulation but with either the Conqueor or the Chieftain APDS
wow, that didn't pen at all
I would say ½
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 but i bet the force is enough to disorient the driver lol
@@kiryu2659 driver's face has 7 extra holes
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 Dead or not?
@@i_cri_evertim like 7.62mm lead shots at a speed of 100-200m/s taken to the face
Something I have been thinking about is what if you replaced textolite in a t-64's hull with carbon fibre, would it be more effective?
Thinking about it, the IS-7 was the Soviet equivalent of the E-100, with the 130mm and lesser all round armor that is purely focused at the front. While the IS-4 was the Maus equivalent with a 122mm with armor being strong all around the vehicle.
IS-4 has weaker gun compared to the maus
@@Simply-a-guy The 122 isn't significantly weaker, the one that the IS-4 uses should be able to penetrate around 250mm of steel I think, could be wrong though
@@exoticdachoo007 no disrespect, but its look like your source are from WoT with that 122mm that look like 279 gun, the real is-4 gun are just normal D-25T gun with different shell, (APCBC or probably a better APHEBC)
@@Simply-a-guy No disrespect taken. They aren't, don't play WoT. I just know the gun the IS-4 uses probably has an upgraded shell in comparison to the IS-2 and maybe even 3 but they could be the same can't remember.
@@exoticdachoo007 from what i remember from Googles and war thunder it was around 190-205mm, i think it could be near 250mm though, probably 230mm or more
Huh, I underestimated IS-4.
Nothing can penetrate T-34 driver's hatch!
Wow!...
Jagdtiger vs IS-2M drivers vision port on the upper front plate from 100M?
Там точно такой толщины лист стали?) Это же как мехводу выбираться?)
Shouldn't the bullet fall slightly from above? The Maus gun is significantly higher than the IS4 hull, and the greater the distance, the more favorable the penetration angle.
@@Bugslick the angle of fall is reduced by the distance and this is what it looks like
How would you get a simulation software such as this, I am a Mechanical Engineer and I think that this content is very interesting to me, but Aswell, I like to design and test things, there's a lot of ideas flowing around on things that could be groundbreaking, if you aren't willing to share that is alright.
Can you simulate hypersonic missile hitting 1/2 inch and 1 inch stationary steel ball?
if the shot had been fired at 100 meters, could the ammunition have pierced the driver's hatch?
it could be stopped with a spall liner sure, but the real question is: does the IS-4 even have ROOM for a spall liner?
IS-3, 4 both have the same internal layouts as the IS-2
Gaijin, fix my beloved IS-4. Now!
Fox 30mm APHE vs T-72 lower hull from the side.
So in this case, hitting near the edge made the shell less effective? 🤔
An edge causes the force to be spread out in several directions instead of being focused at one point.
Even if they're firing an explosive shell, since the blast isn't focused, it caused less damage..it would wipe out any infantry who were around, but as far as damage, the tank would sit & laugh at you...
Simple angles that redirect the force might make all the difference... Think about the tip of an rpg hitting the tip of a triangle 🔺️ - it would still explode, & probably eat away some of the triangle, but now the shaped charge AND the force is cut in half, instead of being a FULL blast. A troop vehicle would still be screwed, but a tank could survive. Problem is that the tip on an rpg warhead is small... So it punches thru stuff... that means you need bigger triangles to deflect, or spaced armor or something behind it. You HAVE to spread out the blast force so it has less power...
@@kimjanek646 yes and no, depends on the situation, you have to remember that the material at the edge has little resistance, so it slows down the shell less
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 Yeah but in this situation it seems to be the case.
Or will you do another simulation, to show whether it had an affect or not?
It's funny but depending on the circumstances, making a material "weaker" can actually make it better for it's designed purpose.
So for deflecting the shell, the edge actually seems to help with that, while for flat plate, it's probably worse since it just offers less resistance.
Stalinium driver hatch
Still worthy
Aha, I was half-right. ½
I mean, it’s still going to deadline the vehicle.
Whats the computer specs Dejmian?
Do 50. BMG Vs BMP-2 side hull armor.
140mm of stalinium
Make RPG7- PG-7VR vs merkava tank please
Name of program?
Stalinium drivers hatch💪💪💪
Jippie new Video
Do you use ansys autodyn?
@@otvdkt yes
Use pzgr TS
Day 1 of asking for aim9 vs l3
warthunder: impossible
What is the armor edge effect?
@@Fat_Ninjah 00:55
So why is that a weakspot in game? I get penned by pretty much everything in an is-4m gaijin really fucked that tanks armour model up. Certain parts of the angled side front armour goes as low as 20mm ... Which certainly should not be the case.
because without it wouldn't have frontal weakspot
@@christians.597 Basically
That is literally the weakest part of the whole front, the problem is IS-4 fighting HEAT and other shit
@@Einheit101 I get that. This video showed that the 128mm struggles to do much....yet I get penned by 88mm rounds. Or auto cannon fire...😅 As I said. The armour model has holes along the mudguards ... Bringing the armour down to just 20mm...
@@Masterafro999 many tanks has holes sadly
Can you do bomb vs tank?
Isn’t Pzgr. 43 960 m/s?
@@dexwy rather not, there are values from 905 to 935, or even 950m/s. 920m/s is the most reliable in my opinion
Press F4 fast
leopard 2PL vs T72BV
Pls battleship shell vs abrams turret cheek
@@Tigglesmith I don't know which Abrams you mean, but the one with the known armor, the M1 was almost penetrated by the 128mm, so the battleship shell is an exaggeration
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 Hmm...maybe a Long 88 vs the Abrams turret cheek? or if not then a 230mm high explosive shell vs T-80UK front plate
Try Pzgr 128/88
@@tazionuvolari8142 someday
Metal d.......i......l......d......o
Sign guess no one wants to run the simulation on that 😢
?!