@@generaljg4373 abdool, our God doesnt need a big crowd in Heaven, he wants to give eternal life to those who choose the Narrow way, only a few find the way to it....Islam on the other hand is a broad way leading to hell...and many lead into it...Jesus our Lord and God himself said that his followers will be few because most people choose broad way of hell, they dont want to live according to the will of the Father, but few people want to live according to will of the father and believe on his son Jesus Christ, they go through the narrow way(Jesus)....because only Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through Jesus.
And the continuation of the Destruction of Islam continues.. Exposing more flaws in the Standard Islamic narrative.. Well Done Thomas.. A Brilliant 🤩 series long may it continue..
I see no destruction of Islam. Islam is flourishing. Mosques everywhere are getting packed every Friday while churches all over the west are shutting down and being turned into bars, entertainment venues and mosques.😂 Attacking Islam will never save the your religion from continuing to decline to non-existence, nor will it save the buy-bull. What’s the point in continuing to buy the buII of the buy-buII anyway despite its contradictions which prove its fakery? It’s the handiwork of Iblis. Islam is the only way to heaven! Worship Allah alone and you’re guaranteed the blessing of eternal life! May Allah guide you!
@@mukalal2160 So many projections here Mukalaal .. First I’m only quoting your own Islamic scholars who say there is a tsunami 🌊 of leavers from Islam.. See Bilal Phillips and others for this .. You further project your ignorance in assuming I’m a Christian.. Think 🤔 again Buddy.. I don’t have a religion.. No one actually needs a religion.. Try thinking for your self.. Yet out of all the man made fabricated religious fantasy Islam is the most obvious and most ridiculous fantasy fiction ever seen.. It’s even worse than Mormonism and Scientology . You follow a mythological character who according to your own fabricated Hadiths (more fantasy fiction) Muhammad was an Epileptic peadophile and criminal gangster who had people killed murdered and tortured.. All this when he wasn’t molesting children.. Islam ☪️ult only retains its numbers by Breeding.. To be bred into ignorance and poverty.. Lastly have you actually noticed how many Ex-Muslim apostates there are now .. TH-cam is literally full of them now .. You need a wake up call .. You are dreaming 😴..
@@generaljg4373 if that’s the delusion you want to believe.. Yet the facts say otherwise.. I mean why would anyone actually want to be associated with an alleged founder who was a epileptic peadophile and criminal gangster who had people killed murdered and tortured and executed.. All this when he wasn’t molesting children..
What you’re revealing here is quite shocking Mr Alexander, it seems that behind every Abbasids story there’s a biblical root. We can clearly see the Abbasids political ambitions. Well done 👍
@@generaljg4373 Yes, there are slightly different compilations, but the sketchiness is far less than that of Islamic scriptures. In addition, Muslims claim the Quran is the unchanging eternal word of Allah, so any change at all means the religion is false.
Christian standard narrative is sketchy why many different bibles and the trinity never been mentioned by any prophet and people celebrate the birth of the sun God mithra in Christmas🤔
@@generaljg4373 this abfool got hurt. Sssk. No trinity in bible. Lmao .abfool spitting his crammed apologetic mullah facts. Feel sorry for guys like this 🗿
Extremely informative BUT: despite the brevity of the discussion we have a great deal of content here and a relatively complex set of arguments being developed - not sure this combination provides a lucid narrative for the average viewer. I know getting the balance right is a very difficult process but I would personally re-write this episode with a more generalized perspective.
What did you feel was too brief? I agree that much of this material could be further broken down into individual video discussions but it seems like Thomas was doing what you asked: he gave a generalized perspective. I would like to see more information about the appearance of the Zayd story: what manuscript history do we have or variant textual analysis, etc, to establish the appearance of this story? Is there any trace prior to Hisham?
Thanks Thomas once again for this short but power packed video.The Abbasids concoction to establish the mantle of The Last Prophet has another facet to it, a delegitimization of adoption had the added merit of striking at Islam's main rival Christianity with its doctrine of Gentiles as adopted( spiritual) sons of God.
Its amazing that I came to almost the exact same conclusions as this work by doing a historical comparison with like movements and phycological/religious analysis of the Quran and its authors. It’s almost scary.
Hi Mr Alexander, I hope you go on Mythvision and give your presentation. I think it’s the best religious scholarship show available on TH-cam today. Be really great
After the whole Robert M Price situation, I think it is better to steer clear, until it is clear what is going on with that channel. Besides, him doing that podcast could take time away from him making more videos. Swings and roundabouts.
@@horseradishpower9947 I think the channel will survive. Most of his viewers seem to be left leaning so it may actually help his viewership given the R Price debacle
@@Ditka-89 I am not caring if it survives or not. I question if it is a good idea to go on that channel or not. Moreover, if Thomas is happy getting the information onto this channel, why go on other channels like Mythvision? As it stands, he is now beyond what he showed on Pfander Films. I am glad of this, and want to hear more.
This is the most compelling video so far. I want to say that even though I disagree with you partially, I appreciate very much what you are doing. Thank you for your efforts.
Interesting theory. In a nutshell, Thomas claims that Islam was an offshoot of anti-trinitarian Christianity. At some point, the offshoot turned into a new religion altogether when the Quran and the invented stories of the "new and last prophet" became more widely distributed among those Christians, who were at that point even willing to accept the new book and the "prophet". I wonder how the transition happened. Smoothly or enforced by the rulers.
Great work! We can see the anti-biblical/archaic pagan sacrificial spirit in the Abbasid interpretations and interpolations. Unlike the Bible, whose heroes are those who commit (or receive) terrible sins against their brothers but turn to God's mercy with a contrite heart, here, the vindictive law, lex talionis, worship of thumos and sacrifice of others to the glory of oneself are all restored to prominence.
This is a serious one I believe the Lord gives you this insights... " We have never seen it in this version".May more dimension of divine understanding from God come upon you to show the lost world of Islam their falsehood. God bless you
Hello! I am very interested in hearing your perspective on Hassan and hussain which are the martyred grandchildren of Muhammad and any historical data related to that! Thank you
Raymond Dequin (inarah) believes Ali and his line were created in a totally separate framework that was early Shia (based on "having" divinity for prophets and the Buddhist idea of reincarnation) and then in the time of al-Ma'mun and his truce with al-Reza, their story was agreed to be merged into the official history. Frühe Ali-Verehrung und die Schöpfung des abbasidischen Weltbilds - Raymond Dequin
@@Alim-od2uz No my friend read Quran is the earliest source. All prophets are are human who eat and drink and walk in the markets. Allah SWT allows people to make up stories in order to deceive. Surah 6.
Great analysis. One thing I appreciate especially from your analysis is that I would previously have believed that this story of Zayd and Zaynab is quite credible because it is embarrassing to Muhammad. Here you show that it serves a purpose of elevating Muhammad. And it also has echoes in prior scripture. It is curious that this elevation comes through a means that, since the beginning, has been used to bring disrepute on Islam. This is fodder for anti-Islamic polemics. On stories that seem to repeat a previous scriptural story: One can say similar things about Zechariah and Elizabeth mirroring Abraham and Sarah. Or the gift of Mary to the Temple (from apocrypha that is followed in the Catholic and Orthodox churches) mirroring the gift of Samuel to the Temple. A question can arise about the secular/salvation dichotomy: if one believes in a divine plan, then these seeming literary repetitions can become examples of divine, prophetic foreshadowing. So, the prototype of Sarah/Abraham is used by God to mark later events as holy and, as you say, salvific. Did they happen? That is a harder question to resolve as objective history with an absence of corroborating information. Luke is our sole source for Zechariah/Elizabeth and the Protoevangelium of James is our source for the presentation of Mary to the Temple.
Go to Channel Useful Charts which explains the history of the Old Testament. The oldest stories like Abraham and Moses are myths. The realms of legend come with David and Solomon and then we get history. After Jesus's death, there were the gospels, then came many apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels. Muhammad was illiterate and therefore unable to differentiate between any of these categories. As Useful Charts points out in its origins of the Quran post, the prophet stories in the Quran appear to be oral summaries of stories already orally summarised by others for an illiterate person to repeat. It is mentioned eight times in the Quran itself that the people Muhammad was preaching to realised that he was merely reciting 'legends of the ancients'.
According to the Biblical book Songs of Solomon, the covenant was transferred from the דּוֹדִֽים dwdym (David's people or the Jews - Songs 5:1) to the מַחֲּמַדִּים mhmdyim (Muhammad's people - Songs 5:16). (Both words are Hebrew masculine, plural NOUNS which the Christian translators have rendered as the adjective, lovely in their translations to hide the transfer of the covenant.). The Hebrew plural, masculine nloun suffix 'ym' is used to denote the people of the nation to which the proper noun refers as in Moabym or Moabites מּוֹאָבִים, Ammonites or Amonym עַמֹּנִים, Egyptians or Mitsrym מִּצְרִים, Chaldeans or Chasidym כַּשְׂדִּים, Lydians or Lydym לוּדִים etc. The words mhmdym and dwdym are unique and only used once each in the entire Bible as derivatives of the roots dwd, meaning beloved, and hmd (mhmd) respectively. So, one expects the translation to also be unique. The words dwdym and mhmdym constitute a synonymous parallelism which references the covenant relationship between these 2 peoples. The dwdym or Jews were the last ancient Semitic people to hold this covenant before it was transferred to the mhmdym or the Muslims who were and are Muhammad's people. In addition, the Palestinians are the original Jews as they carry the haplotype J1c3d. The Ashkenazi who control Palestine are not Semites. So, Palestinians, the native inhabitants for more than 5000 years, are the rightful owners of Palestine according to history, genetics and the bible. The control of the land of Israel was based on the contingency that those bound by the covenant would obey the law (Torah) and worship the One, True God. According to the Bible, the Jews failed to abide by the covenant conditions. The last straw was when they attempted to murder the Prophet, Jesus (as). Matthew 21:43 has Jesus declare: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." So, it is clear that Jesus confirmed the prophecy in Songs 5 and the covenant was taken from the dwdym (David's people) and given to the mhmdym (Muhammad's people). The Mhmdym (Muslims) fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Jews when they created an empire that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. The Mhmdym also rebuilt the former temple as Masjid Al Aqsa on the site which the Christian had deliberately defiled to dishonor the Jews and their god, Yhwh. Songs is an allegory with many different levels of meaning. The poem is symbolic. The groom is symbolic of the king who ruled Judah, and who was a member of the dwdym or David's people. The bride represents the people of the covenant. The love between the spouses represents the covenant. Dwdym (David's people) represents the original people of the covenant or Jews. The Mhmdym represent the people of Muhammad to whom the covenant is transferred when the bride addresses her groom as Muhammadim or the people of Muhammad.. The bride, who is symbolic of the people of the covenant, switched her allegiance from the king who was both the ruler of and a member of the dwdym (David's people) to the Muhammadim (Muhammad's people) because the Muhammadim were the recipients of the new covenant. The covenant was transferred to the Mhmdym because the Jews rejected Jesus and his message. This new covenant was the means through which Allah (swt) made Muhammad the founder of a nation whose empire stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. The achievements of the Muhammadim fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Hebrews. Songs is a prophecy that the Law or Torah was to be expressed through a covenant between the deity and the people who were committed to the purified Torah which became known as the Shariah, the law or Torah of the Muslim ummah. Allah's (swt) promises are always true, Subhanallah.
Zayd in quran does NOT refer to a son of the prophet. Like Amr, Zayd is used to indicate a random man! Arabic is not the only language that uses that kind of a technique. Ps. As I wrote once before, this guy makes great videos for someone who does not have a knowledge of the Arabic or the Aramaic languages.
*NO TRINITY* *Matthew* *7: 13,14* *14 Go in through the narrow gate; for WIDE is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth unto DESTRUCTION, and MANY are they which go in thereon.14 For the gate is NARROW, and the strait is the way, which leadeth unto LIFE, and FEW there be that find it.* *A.* *Timothy* *2: 4,5* *4 GOD wants all people to be saved and to know the TRUTH. 5 For there is one GOD, and one MEDITATOR between GOD and men, the MAN CHRIST JESUS;* *Revelation of John* *3:14* *14 And unto the angel of the church in Laodicea write; Thus saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness. the beginning of the CREATION of GOD.* "ARE MANY" who will follow the path of loss but "A FEW" will find the narrow gate. Mattew 7:13 John 3:13 (Jesus said)No one ascended into heaven. but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which was from the heaven. Why do we grow old and die? GOD did not want humans to die. Our first parents, Adam and Eve, were created with a perfect mind and body.They could still be alive today.This is clear from what God said to Adam about a tree growing in the garden of Eden. God said to Adam:“The day you eat [from the tree] you will surely die.” Genesis 2:17. This command would have been meaningless if Adam had been created to grow old and die. Adam knew that if he did not eat from that tree, he would not die. GOD'S PURPOSE WAS NOT THAT PEOPLE DIE. God said to Adam:"Eat your bread with the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground from where you were taken.for you were dust and you will become dust. ” Genesis 3: 17-19 As a result,“all the days of Adam's life were nine hundred and thirty years and he died.”Genesis 5: 5. Adam did not go to heaven or hell.Or live in a spiritual realm. What is the Resurrection? The Bible's answer In the Bible,the Greek word translated "resurrection" means "to stand" or "to restore." The resurrected person is resurrected from the dead and is the same person who was before. 1 Corinthians 15:12, 13. It is true that the word "resurrection" is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures,which are known as the Old Testament, but the promise of resurrection is there.For example,through the prophet Hosea,God promised:“I will rescue them from the hand of the grave, and I will rescue them from death.” Hosea 13:14; Job 14: 13-15; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12: 2, 13. Where will people be resurrected? Some people will be resurrected to live in heaven.There they will reign with Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 5: 1; Revelation 5: 9, 10.The Bible calls this resurrection "the first resurrection" and the word "first" makes it clear that there will be another resurrection. Revelation 20: 6 That other resurrection will be for the living on paradise earth, and most of the dead will be resurrected in this way. Psalm 37:29. How are the dead raised?God gave Jesus the power to resurrect the dead. John 11:25. Jesus will bring to life “all those in the memorial tombs,” each with his own personality, attributes, and memories. John 5:28, 29. Some will be resurrected to live in heaven, while others will be resurrected to live on paradise earth with perfect and healthy bodies. Isaiah 33:24; 35: 5, 6. 1 Corinthians 15: 42-44, 50 They multiply priests and saints with sad faces pile up, perform miracles,cast out demons.But Jesus said,The tree is known by its fruit. MATTHEW 7: 21-23: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,and cast out demons in your name,and did many miracles in your name?'23 Then i will tell them plainly that I did not know you at all.Get away from me, you workers of iniquity. Matthew 7: 15-20 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 By their fruits ye shall know them.Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles?17 So every good tree bringeth forth good fruit;and an evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.20 Ye shall know them by their fruits. B.LETTER TO CORINTHIANS 11: 13-15: 13 For such are the apostles, liars, deceitful workers, impersonating the apostles of Christ.14 And it is not surprising. because Satan also takes the form of a bright angel.15 Wherefore, it is not a great thing that his ministers should be likened unto the ministers of righteousness. Their end will be in proportion to their deeds. 4: 4. In whom is the god of this world? (Satan) blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the light of the glory of the gospel of Christ might not shine upon them, which is the image of God. Eternal life is a free gift from God. The eternal punishment is not righteousness because how many years can a human beeing live at most?God is Love Bible answers Ecclesiastes 3:19,20 19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals,they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies, and they all have but one life. So man has no superiority over animals,(No additional soul. Only have additional knowlege,thinking,talking,etc...)verything is futile. 20 All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust. John 5:28,29 28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. Psalm 37:29 it's clear A. LETTER TO TIMOTHY 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus! Mattew 24:36 36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows,neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. *NO TRINITY* *John* *20:17* 17 *Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.* *JOHN* *6:38* *(Jesus said)* 38 *For I came down from heaven, not to do mine OWN will, but the will of HIM that sent me.* *John* *14:28* 28 *Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.* *Matthew* *20:23* 23 *And HE saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of MY cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not MINE to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my FATHER.* *John* *5:30* 30 *I can of MINE own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not MINE own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent ME:* *John* *17:20**-23* *(ONE IN GLORY)* 20 *Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on ME through their word; 21 That they all may be ONE; as THOU, FATHER, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. 22 And the glory which thou gavest ME, I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be made perfect in ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent ME, and hast loved THEM, as THOU hast loved ME:* TRINITY ARE FALSE TEACHINGS only thrue Lord God is *JEHOVAH* (the Father)and his first creation is *JESUS CHRIST*(the Son) everything else created by *JESUS* more scriptures *NO TRINITY*
Accoring to the Islamic traditions Caliph Marwan is supposed to have had a mother named Amina and wifes named A'isha and Zaynab just like Muhammad. Do you have any comments on this strange 'coincidence' ?
Has anyone done this same breakdown with Judaism ie looks far back to see how this came about without the book being the primary. Asking for more understanding
There is extensive historical critical literature on the bible and the origin of the diversity of judaism or christianity. On that topic academic jewish, christian or atheist scholars work together. Most christian scholars have no problem with e.g. "the coin in the fish"-miracle being a classic eastern myth. That is because the religious truth is not a holy book or a cognitive truth, and even less so in modern judaism. There seems to be nothing like that in the muslim world. Even a little hint of the quran not being perfect (as it obviously is!) seems to be considered blasphemy and very hard for muslims to take in.
Greatly appreciated video, thank you. Guys, please don't include the names of the abduls that come here to bark. Their only engagement with us, is for them to receive a spanking, and, the torment of the truth being presented, with references.
What should we make of Shia tradition of the Imams descended from Muhammad through Fatima? All of the Imams are male lineage, as you point out was believed to be required. Was this Alid lineage a reaction to the dominant Sunni teaching of Muhammad as the Seal of the Prophets? No, the prophets keep coming until Judgment Day?
Muhammad 1 - The Quranic Seal of the Prophets but not Messenger [Q:33:40] Muhammad 2 - was known as Jesus in the west Muhammad 3 - was known as Buddha in the East Ahmad - Q:61:06: Messenger of the Covenant [03:81; 33:07; 61:06] sent to those who have no knowledge of the Book - UMMIYUNA [the Book of Moses] Zyad was not the step son of the Prophet but the stepson of the Messenger of the Covenant! The Quran, in which God AlMighty directly dictates to HIS Messenger-Prophet Muhammad [53:01-0=15]! The Messenger-Prophet narrated the Quranic messages to the Messenger of the Covenant.
@@alonzoharris6730 If Muslims (and Allah) thought they were so important, you'd think they would have preserved some of the complete ones created by Uthman that were sent out to all the cities but they didn't. What a joke.
@@garybowings1538 why would manuscripts need preserving when the Quran was never sent down in writing but through verbal recitation? and the recitations are indeed preserved as all Muslims from Africa to Asia to Americas recite the same verses of the Quran until this day. Your Bible on the other hand has thousands of versions and editions, differing greatly both in the meanings as well as the contents .
The writers of the Quran knew too much about Jewish history. I wonder if there were some Arab Jews or Persian Jews who converted to Islam and/or during the different stages of Islam development. 😮
It's difficult to give precise dates, but my current working hypothesis is that the process starts around 700 AD and is finished by around 800 AD. Roughly.
@@TAlexander Meanwhile over in Spain the anti-trinitarian lectionaries don't notice anything going on. Not anything for the next 200 years. That's hard to reconcile.
@@501Mobius He will never reply to you because you are talking about the the anti-trinitarian in Spain and this is against his Agenda and doesn't fit his needs as Christian because he might be one of those anti-trinitarian ?
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I disagree with your interpretation. If adoption was abolished to end prophethood when how to you explain Shias? They believe revelation continued in Mohammed’s family through Ali.
@@ngutoranga2733 it depends on your interpretation of what revelation is. For Sunnis there was revelation that was not part of quran. That is why the sunnah can abrogate a ruling in the quran. So all of Quran is revelation. but not all of revelation is or became (based on your theology) Quran. Shias believe in the muhamadean light. All prophets and Imams have access to this light which allows them to be infallible. Some early Shias believed that revelation continued on with Ali and the Imams. Other Shias believe that access to this light give more prophetic inspiration.
I have enjoyed your videos immensely Thomas but I have a question about a previous video and the verse "I have made your birthing legitimate" which is the Syriac translation that you give (when Mary gives birth to Jesus) in opposition to the orthodox rendering "I have set a stream at your feet". After consulting the rest of the verse in the Quran it seems to me that the more likely translation is the orthodox rather than the Syriac. The remainder of the verse goes on - "I have set a stream at your feet and a tree beside you full of dates, shake the tree and then drink and eat at your pleasure" or something like that. I wondered if you had any response to this, and is this just an anomalous situation where the Syriac translation is incorrect or an indication that there is something wrong with the German/Syriac thesis at large. Cheers.
TBH, it's been a while since I've read the Luxenberg translation, but he never only picks out individual passages but looks at them in the larger context. There's a lot more to this. Luxenberg shows that in context, Mary's biggest fear was that her birth would be seen as illegitimate. So it was important to remove that fear. Then, afterwards, she's told to eat and be happy. Luxenberg has a long chapter on it in his book on the Syro-Aramaic reading of the Koran.
@@TAlexander The idea that the early stages of Islam evolved out of an anti-trinitarian form of Christianity seems very compelling, I am amazed that I've never encountered the idea before. Thank you for introducing it to me, because I've been thinking of nothing else for days. However, there are some stories in the the formulation of early Islam that seem to be quite detrimental to the character of the prophet. The stories I'm thinking about are the situation where he marries the wife of his (adopted) son, as you mention in this video, and also the story of Aisha's potential infidelity. Both times the prophet receives a convenient message from God to resolve the situation. John baptising Jesus is taken as an embarrassing event and the fact that this is embarrassing is taken as evidence that this actually happened. I have wondered if these Mohammedan events should be taken likewise. They seem like strange things to make up.
@@extremaz9908 Even more compelling: Jesus's crucifixion. This would never be made up by his disciples. And of course this caused immense controversy for centuries. How could one pretend that God would be so shamed? This is one of the most powerful arguments against the odd contention that Jesus was not crucified (for instance, as most Muslims have interpreted the Quran). I would agree that these Muhammad stories seem embarrassing so have the ring of truth. But Thomas has given an alternative explanation: This tale, with shades of King David and Bathsheba, shows that Muhammad had no son and was therefore the final prophet.
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Alhumdullillah Thomas, Mashallah I see no holes in your narrative, however, such parallels and creation of prophet Mohammed requires genius and Subhanallah Arabs are quite stupid, for them to come up with all what you had described is commendable. Mahshallah!
The whole idea is about justice.?. For example, no one has the right to inherit money or a family name that he does not belong to, even if the father wanted to do so.This is the right of biological children only. Just like that God does not approve of anyone sharing what he owns, even if they was Christ and his mother, peace be upon them. Justice with ourselves or with God is what determines our destiny to heaven or hell
Hey Thomas. One minute you are saying that Muhamnad never existed. The next, you are saying he had to unadopt a son to make himself the Seal of the Prophets. 🤣
This channel is seriously underrated
Underrated for a reason, all false information
@@generaljg4373 truth(Jesus) is always followed by few people...Most believe in Lies(Islam)
@@yakovmatityahu most believe in logical truth Islam, christianity is in decline because its false
@@generaljg4373 abdool, our God doesnt need a big crowd in Heaven, he wants to give eternal life to those who choose the Narrow way, only a few find the way to it....Islam on the other hand is a broad way leading to hell...and many lead into it...Jesus our Lord and God himself said that his followers will be few because most people choose broad way of hell, they dont want to live according to the will of the Father, but few people want to live according to will of the father and believe on his son Jesus Christ, they go through the narrow way(Jesus)....because only Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through Jesus.
@@yakovmatityahu christianity is false religion for sure its not the way to heaven, Christian's believe in three gods not the true one God
And the continuation of the Destruction of Islam continues.. Exposing more flaws in the Standard Islamic narrative.. Well Done Thomas.. A Brilliant 🤩 series long may it continue..
I see no destruction of Islam. Islam is flourishing. Mosques everywhere are getting packed every Friday while churches all over the west are shutting down and being turned into bars, entertainment venues and mosques.😂 Attacking Islam will never save the your religion from continuing to decline to non-existence, nor will it save the buy-bull. What’s the point in continuing to buy the buII of the buy-buII anyway despite its contradictions which prove its fakery? It’s the handiwork of Iblis. Islam is the only way to heaven! Worship Allah alone and you’re guaranteed the blessing of eternal life! May Allah guide you!
@@mukalal2160 So many projections here Mukalaal .. First I’m only quoting your own Islamic scholars who say there is a tsunami 🌊 of leavers from Islam.. See Bilal Phillips and others for this ..
You further project your ignorance in assuming I’m a Christian.. Think 🤔 again Buddy.. I don’t have a religion.. No one actually needs a religion..
Try thinking for your self.. Yet out of all the man made fabricated religious fantasy Islam is the most obvious and most ridiculous fantasy fiction ever seen.. It’s even worse than Mormonism and Scientology .
You follow a mythological character who according to your own fabricated Hadiths (more fantasy fiction) Muhammad was an Epileptic peadophile and criminal gangster who had people killed murdered and tortured..
All this when he wasn’t molesting children..
Islam ☪️ult only retains its numbers by Breeding.. To be bred into ignorance and poverty..
Lastly have you actually noticed how many Ex-Muslim apostates there are now .. TH-cam is literally full of them now ..
You need a wake up call .. You are dreaming 😴..
Nah Islam is doing fine but christianity is in decline
Quran recitation about judgement day 😧😯⚡️- m.th-cam.com/users/shortsD1iU2thjZCs
@@generaljg4373 if that’s the delusion you want to believe.. Yet the facts say otherwise..
I mean why would anyone actually want to be associated with an alleged founder who was a epileptic peadophile and criminal gangster who had people killed murdered and tortured and executed.. All this when he wasn’t molesting children..
What you’re revealing here is quite shocking Mr Alexander, it seems that behind every Abbasids story there’s a biblical root. We can clearly see the Abbasids political ambitions. Well done 👍
Christian standard narrative is sketchy why so many different bibles and people celebrate the birth of the sun God mithra in Christmas
@@generaljg4373 The differences are in translation. In Islam, the differences are in the originals.
@@fantasia55 theres many different bibles with missing verses and added verses, christianity is sketchy
@@generaljg4373 Yes, there are slightly different compilations, but the sketchiness is far less than that of Islamic scriptures. In addition, Muslims claim the Quran is the unchanging eternal word of Allah, so any change at all means the religion is false.
Another excellent video Thomas, these short videos are excellent, and I love the way in this video you show the Biblical origins of Zayd
that adoption in islam was prohibited just to end the office of prophecy is something i have always believed
Wow. This Narrative is so Interesting and realistic. Great job.
Christian standard narrative is sketchy why many different bibles and the trinity never been mentioned by any prophet and people celebrate the birth of the sun God mithra in Christmas🤔
@@generaljg4373 this abfool got hurt. Sssk.
No trinity in bible. Lmao .abfool spitting his crammed apologetic mullah facts.
Feel sorry for guys like this 🗿
Extremely informative BUT: despite the brevity of the discussion we have a great deal of content here and a relatively complex set of arguments being developed - not sure this combination provides a lucid narrative for the average viewer. I know getting the balance right is a very difficult process but I would personally re-write this episode with a more generalized perspective.
Please do and let us have it. Many of us will find it helpful in our work with muslims
What did you feel was too brief? I agree that much of this material could be further broken down into individual video discussions but it seems like Thomas was doing what you asked: he gave a generalized perspective.
I would like to see more information about the appearance of the Zayd story: what manuscript history do we have or variant textual analysis, etc, to establish the appearance of this story? Is there any trace prior to Hisham?
Its funny that Christians thinks by talking about Islam that will make christianity true but christianity is false anyway
Thanks Thomas once again for this short but power packed video.The Abbasids concoction to establish the mantle of The Last Prophet has another facet to it, a delegitimization of adoption had the added merit of striking at Islam's main rival Christianity with its doctrine of Gentiles as adopted( spiritual) sons of God.
Its amazing that I came to almost the exact same conclusions as this work by doing a historical comparison with like movements and phycological/religious analysis of the Quran and its authors. It’s almost scary.
great video, again! Grüße aus Wien
Hi Mr Alexander, I hope you go on Mythvision and give your presentation. I think it’s the best religious scholarship show available on TH-cam today. Be really great
After the whole Robert M Price situation, I think it is better to steer clear, until it is clear what is going on with that channel.
Besides, him doing that podcast could take time away from him making more videos. Swings and roundabouts.
@@horseradishpower9947 I think the channel will survive. Most of his viewers seem to be left leaning so it may actually help his viewership given the R Price debacle
@@Ditka-89 I am not caring if it survives or not. I question if it is a good idea to go on that channel or not.
Moreover, if Thomas is happy getting the information onto this channel, why go on other channels like Mythvision? As it stands, he is now beyond what he showed on Pfander Films. I am glad of this, and want to hear more.
@@horseradishpower9947 ya that Smith guy kept interrupting him the entire presentation
Thanks for the video.
I am not sure of Muhammad but I am enjoying utube channels.
This is the most compelling video so far. I want to say that even though I disagree with you partially, I appreciate very much what you are doing. Thank you for your efforts.
Interesting theory.
In a nutshell, Thomas claims that Islam was an offshoot of anti-trinitarian Christianity. At some point, the offshoot turned into a new religion altogether when the Quran and the invented stories of the "new and last prophet" became more widely distributed among those Christians, who were at that point even willing to accept the new book and the "prophet". I wonder how the transition happened. Smoothly or enforced by the rulers.
Excellent research 👍
Great work! We can see the anti-biblical/archaic pagan sacrificial spirit in the Abbasid interpretations and interpolations. Unlike the Bible, whose heroes are those who commit (or receive) terrible sins against their brothers but turn to God's mercy with a contrite heart, here, the vindictive law, lex talionis, worship of thumos and sacrifice of others to the glory of oneself are all restored to prominence.
Mr. Alexander, you should contact Dr. Jay Smith from Pfander Films. I think you and him would have a great discussion.
They've had many discussions, on TH-cam.
This is a serious one
I believe the Lord gives you this insights... " We have never seen it in this version".May more dimension of divine understanding from God come upon you to show the lost world of Islam their falsehood.
God bless you
Its funny that Christians think by talking about Islam that will make christianity true religion lol
Hello! I am very interested in hearing your perspective on Hassan and hussain which are the martyred grandchildren of Muhammad and any historical data related to that! Thank you
Yes. What is your take on specifically Hasan who is an extremely interesting figure in my specific research.?
Raymond Dequin (inarah) believes Ali and his line were created in a totally separate framework that was early Shia (based on "having" divinity for prophets and the Buddhist idea of reincarnation) and then in the time of al-Ma'mun and his truce with al-Reza, their story was agreed to be merged into the official history.
Frühe Ali-Verehrung und die Schöpfung des abbasidischen Weltbilds - Raymond Dequin
@@Alim-od2uz i will check this paper thank you. The Hasssan character is much more important and complicated than Hussein in my eyes.
@@miguelsureda9762
They are the
Grandsons of Prophet Muhammed
@@Alim-od2uz
No my friend read Quran is the earliest source. All prophets are are human who eat and drink and walk in the markets. Allah SWT allows people to make up stories in order to deceive. Surah 6.
Great analysis.
One thing I appreciate especially from your analysis is that I would previously have believed that this story of Zayd and Zaynab is quite credible because it is embarrassing to Muhammad. Here you show that it serves a purpose of elevating Muhammad. And it also has echoes in prior scripture. It is curious that this elevation comes through a means that, since the beginning, has been used to bring disrepute on Islam. This is fodder for anti-Islamic polemics.
On stories that seem to repeat a previous scriptural story: One can say similar things about Zechariah and Elizabeth mirroring Abraham and Sarah. Or the gift of Mary to the Temple (from apocrypha that is followed in the Catholic and Orthodox churches) mirroring the gift of Samuel to the Temple.
A question can arise about the secular/salvation dichotomy: if one believes in a divine plan, then these seeming literary repetitions can become examples of divine, prophetic foreshadowing. So, the prototype of Sarah/Abraham is used by God to mark later events as holy and, as you say, salvific.
Did they happen? That is a harder question to resolve as objective history with an absence of corroborating information. Luke is our sole source for Zechariah/Elizabeth and the Protoevangelium of James is our source for the presentation of Mary to the Temple.
Its funny that Christians think by talking about Islam that will make christianity true but christianity is false 6th century religion
@@generaljg4373 6th century?
Go to Channel Useful Charts which explains the history of the Old Testament. The oldest stories like Abraham and Moses are myths. The realms of legend come with David and Solomon and then we get history. After Jesus's death, there were the gospels, then came many apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels. Muhammad was illiterate and therefore unable to differentiate between any of these categories. As Useful Charts points out in its origins of the Quran post, the prophet stories in the Quran appear to be oral summaries of stories already orally summarised by others for an illiterate person to repeat. It is mentioned eight times in the Quran itself that the people Muhammad was preaching to realised that he was merely reciting 'legends of the ancients'.
@@charlesiragui2473 yea christianity is a 6th century ideology
@@generaljg4373 4th Century I have heard (Constantine, etc). 6th is new to me. Why would you place Christianity in the 6th Century?
According to the Biblical book Songs of Solomon, the covenant was transferred from the דּוֹדִֽים dwdym (David's people or the Jews - Songs 5:1) to the מַחֲּמַדִּים mhmdyim (Muhammad's people - Songs 5:16). (Both words are Hebrew masculine, plural NOUNS which the Christian translators have rendered as the adjective, lovely in their translations to hide the transfer of the covenant.). The Hebrew plural, masculine nloun suffix 'ym' is used to denote the people of the nation to which the proper noun refers as in Moabym or Moabites מּוֹאָבִים, Ammonites or Amonym עַמֹּנִים, Egyptians or Mitsrym מִּצְרִים, Chaldeans or Chasidym כַּשְׂדִּים, Lydians or Lydym לוּדִים etc. The words mhmdym and dwdym are unique and only used once each in the entire Bible as derivatives of the roots dwd, meaning beloved, and hmd (mhmd) respectively. So, one expects the translation to also be unique. The words dwdym and mhmdym constitute a synonymous parallelism which references the covenant relationship between these 2 peoples. The dwdym or Jews were the last ancient Semitic people to hold this covenant before it was transferred to the mhmdym or the Muslims who were and are Muhammad's people. In addition, the Palestinians are the original Jews as they carry the haplotype J1c3d. The Ashkenazi who control Palestine are not Semites. So, Palestinians, the native inhabitants for more than 5000 years, are the rightful owners of Palestine according to history, genetics and the bible.
The control of the land of Israel was based on the contingency that those bound by the covenant would obey the law (Torah) and worship the One, True God. According to the Bible, the Jews failed to abide by the covenant conditions. The last straw was when they attempted to murder the Prophet, Jesus (as). Matthew 21:43 has Jesus declare: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." So, it is clear that Jesus confirmed the prophecy in Songs 5 and the covenant was taken from the dwdym (David's people) and given to the mhmdym (Muhammad's people). The Mhmdym (Muslims) fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Jews when they created an empire that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. The Mhmdym also rebuilt the former temple as Masjid Al Aqsa on the site which the Christian had deliberately defiled to dishonor the Jews and their god, Yhwh.
Songs is an allegory with many different levels of meaning. The poem is symbolic. The groom is symbolic of the king who ruled Judah, and who was a member of the dwdym or David's people. The bride represents the people of the covenant. The love between the spouses represents the covenant. Dwdym (David's people) represents the original people of the covenant or Jews. The Mhmdym represent the people of Muhammad to whom the covenant is transferred when the bride addresses her groom as Muhammadim or the people of Muhammad.. The bride, who is symbolic of the people of the covenant, switched her allegiance from the king who was both the ruler of and a member of the dwdym (David's people) to the Muhammadim (Muhammad's people) because the Muhammadim were the recipients of the new covenant. The covenant was transferred to the Mhmdym because the Jews rejected Jesus and his message. This new covenant was the means through which Allah (swt) made Muhammad the founder of a nation whose empire stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. The achievements of the Muhammadim fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Hebrews. Songs is a prophecy that the Law or Torah was to be expressed through a covenant between the deity and the people who were committed to the purified Torah which became known as the Shariah, the law or Torah of the Muslim ummah. Allah's (swt) promises are always true, Subhanallah.
Zayd in quran does NOT refer to a son of the prophet.
Like Amr, Zayd is used to indicate a random man!
Arabic is not the only language that uses that kind of a technique.
Ps. As I wrote once before, this guy makes great videos for someone who does not have a knowledge of the Arabic or the Aramaic languages.
*NO TRINITY*
*Matthew* *7: 13,14*
*14 Go in through the narrow gate; for WIDE is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth unto DESTRUCTION, and MANY are they which go in thereon.14 For the gate is NARROW, and the strait is the way, which leadeth unto LIFE, and FEW there be that find it.*
*A.* *Timothy* *2: 4,5*
*4 GOD wants all people to be saved and to know the TRUTH. 5 For there is one GOD, and one MEDITATOR between GOD and men, the MAN CHRIST JESUS;*
*Revelation of John* *3:14*
*14 And unto the angel of the church in Laodicea write; Thus saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness. the beginning of the CREATION of GOD.*
"ARE MANY" who will follow the path of loss but "A FEW" will find the narrow gate.
Mattew 7:13
John 3:13 (Jesus said)No one ascended into heaven. but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which was from the heaven.
Why do we grow old and die?
GOD did not want humans to die. Our first parents, Adam and Eve, were created with a perfect mind and body.They could still be alive today.This is clear from what God said to Adam about a tree growing in the garden of Eden.
God said to Adam:“The day you eat [from the tree] you will surely die.” Genesis 2:17. This command would have been meaningless if Adam had been created to grow old and die. Adam knew that if he did not eat from that tree, he would not die.
GOD'S PURPOSE WAS NOT THAT PEOPLE DIE.
God said to Adam:"Eat your bread with the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground from where you were taken.for you were dust and you will become dust. ”
Genesis 3: 17-19
As a result,“all the days of Adam's life were nine hundred and thirty years and he died.”Genesis 5: 5. Adam did not go to heaven or hell.Or live in a spiritual realm.
What is the Resurrection?
The Bible's answer
In the Bible,the Greek word translated "resurrection" means "to stand" or "to restore." The resurrected person is resurrected from the dead and is the same person who was before. 1 Corinthians 15:12, 13.
It is true that the word "resurrection" is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures,which are known as the Old Testament, but the promise of resurrection is there.For example,through the prophet Hosea,God promised:“I will rescue them from the hand of the grave, and I will rescue them from death.” Hosea 13:14; Job 14: 13-15; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12: 2, 13.
Where will people be resurrected? Some people will be resurrected to live in heaven.There they will reign with Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 5: 1; Revelation 5: 9, 10.The Bible calls this resurrection "the first resurrection" and the word "first" makes it clear that there will be another resurrection. Revelation 20: 6 That other resurrection will be for the living on paradise earth, and most of the dead will be resurrected in this way.
Psalm 37:29.
How are the dead raised?God gave Jesus the power to resurrect the dead. John 11:25. Jesus will bring to life “all those in the memorial tombs,” each with his own personality, attributes, and memories.
John 5:28, 29.
Some will be resurrected to live in heaven, while others will be resurrected to live on paradise earth with perfect and healthy bodies. Isaiah 33:24; 35: 5, 6. 1 Corinthians 15: 42-44, 50
They multiply priests and saints with sad faces pile up, perform miracles,cast out demons.But Jesus said,The tree is known by its fruit.
MATTHEW
7: 21-23:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,and cast out demons in your name,and did many miracles in your name?'23 Then i will tell them plainly that I did not know you at all.Get away from me, you workers of iniquity.
Matthew 7: 15-20
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 By their fruits ye shall know them.Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles?17 So every good tree bringeth forth good fruit;and an evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.20 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
B.LETTER TO CORINTHIANS
11: 13-15:
13 For such are the apostles, liars, deceitful workers, impersonating the apostles of Christ.14 And it is not surprising. because Satan also takes the form of a bright angel.15 Wherefore, it is not a great thing that his ministers should be likened unto the ministers of righteousness. Their end will be in proportion to their deeds.
4: 4. In whom is the god of this world?
(Satan) blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the light of the glory of the gospel of Christ might not shine upon them, which is the image of God.
Eternal life is a free gift from God. The eternal punishment is not righteousness because how many years can a human beeing live at most?God is Love
Bible answers
Ecclesiastes 3:19,20
19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals,they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies, and they all have but one life. So man has no superiority over animals,(No additional soul. Only have additional knowlege,thinking,talking,etc...)verything is futile. 20 All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust.
John 5:28,29
28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
Psalm 37:29
it's clear
A. LETTER TO TIMOTHY 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus!
Mattew 24:36
36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows,neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
*NO TRINITY*
*John* *20:17*
17 *Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.*
*JOHN* *6:38*
*(Jesus said)*
38 *For I came down from heaven, not to do mine OWN will, but the will of HIM that sent me.*
*John* *14:28*
28 *Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.*
*Matthew* *20:23*
23 *And HE saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of MY cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not MINE to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my FATHER.*
*John* *5:30*
30 *I can of MINE own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not MINE own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent ME:*
*John* *17:20**-23*
*(ONE IN GLORY)*
20 *Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on ME through their word; 21 That they all may be ONE; as THOU, FATHER, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. 22 And the glory which thou gavest ME, I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be made perfect in ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent ME, and hast loved THEM, as THOU hast loved ME:*
TRINITY ARE FALSE TEACHINGS only thrue Lord God is *JEHOVAH* (the Father)and his first creation is *JESUS CHRIST*(the Son) everything else created by *JESUS*
more scriptures *NO TRINITY*
Accoring to the Islamic traditions Caliph Marwan is supposed to have had a mother named Amina and wifes named A'isha and Zaynab just like Muhammad. Do you have any comments on this strange 'coincidence' ?
Did he also have a wife named Kadijah?
@@two_tier_gary_rumain No.
@@PeterHarremoes Damn, that would have made it far too obvious.
Has anyone done this same breakdown with Judaism ie looks far back to see how this came about without the book being the primary. Asking for more understanding
There is extensive historical critical literature on the bible and the origin of the diversity of judaism or christianity. On that topic academic jewish, christian or atheist scholars work together. Most christian scholars have no problem with e.g. "the coin in the fish"-miracle being a classic eastern myth. That is because the religious truth is not a holy book or a cognitive truth, and even less so in modern judaism. There seems to be nothing like that in the muslim world. Even a little hint of the quran not being perfect (as it obviously is!) seems to be considered blasphemy and very hard for muslims to take in.
@@hugodavid4789 where? and is it in this format of presentation
Greatly appreciated video, thank you. Guys, please don't include the names of the abduls that come here to bark. Their only engagement with us, is for them to receive a spanking, and, the torment of the truth being presented, with references.
Interesting theory...
What should we make of Shia tradition of the Imams descended from Muhammad through Fatima? All of the Imams are male lineage, as you point out was believed to be required.
Was this Alid lineage a reaction to the dominant Sunni teaching of Muhammad as the Seal of the Prophets? No, the prophets keep coming until Judgment Day?
Muhammad 1 - The Quranic Seal of the Prophets but not Messenger [Q:33:40]
Muhammad 2 - was known as Jesus in the west
Muhammad 3 - was known as Buddha in the East
Ahmad - Q:61:06: Messenger of the Covenant [03:81; 33:07; 61:06] sent to those who have no knowledge of the Book - UMMIYUNA [the Book of Moses]
Zyad was not the step son of the Prophet but the stepson of the Messenger of the Covenant!
The Quran, in which God AlMighty directly dictates to HIS Messenger-Prophet Muhammad [53:01-0=15]! The Messenger-Prophet narrated the Quranic messages to the Messenger of the Covenant.
We have seventh century Quranic manuscripts. This disproves your wild theory of the Abbasids.
"Manuscripts are the Quran." lol
@@garybowings1538
Do you know what Quranic manuscripts are?
@@alonzoharris6730 If Muslims (and Allah) thought they were so important, you'd think they would have preserved some of the complete ones created by Uthman that were sent out to all the cities but they didn't. What a joke.
@@garybowings1538 Asslonzo is a joke himself lol
@@garybowings1538 why would manuscripts need preserving when the Quran was never sent down in writing but through verbal recitation? and the recitations are indeed preserved as all Muslims from Africa to Asia to Americas recite the same verses of the Quran until this day. Your Bible on the other hand has thousands of versions and editions, differing greatly both in the meanings as well as the contents .
The writers of the Quran knew too much about Jewish history. I wonder if there were some Arab Jews or Persian Jews who converted to Islam and/or during the different stages of Islam development. 😮
I always though the story was fabricated. Muhammad never seemed to be the type of guy to have an adopted son.
The line of prophethood follows a female not a male this time his daughter Fatima .
His descendants still live today .
Fartima never existed. Do a DNA test on some of these 'descendants'. They won't be related.
What is the time period of these Mohammeds?
It's difficult to give precise dates, but my current working hypothesis is that the process starts around 700 AD and is finished by around 800 AD. Roughly.
@@TAlexander Meanwhile over in Spain the anti-trinitarian lectionaries don't notice anything going on. Not anything for the next 200 years. That's hard to reconcile.
@@501Mobius He will never reply to you because you are talking about the the anti-trinitarian in Spain and this is against his Agenda and doesn't fit his needs as Christian because he might be one of those anti-trinitarian ?
Very informative and interesting videos. However, i suggest putting some exotic arabic music and visuals to videos. It would be artistic as well then.
Hi Thomas. u r likely very busy guy,so u may not have read a previous msg,where I said your name-sound is in the Qur'an, pronounced with a tajweed T eg Surah 36:66 la Thomas na.
back to issue of a translated quran verse that says "Muhammad is not the father of any of you men,but he is the messenger of God and the seal of the prophets,and God knows everything".
It possible that most of the above is explained falsily.
a) ma kana 👈 is more likely a Root word MKN,rather than Ma as to mean "is not".
b) ABA ahadim 👈 seems to suggest that Muhammad is Aba Ahadim👈 mo is known as Ahadun.
c) Kataman Nabeyeen 👈 can mean end day prophets.
d) wakan allahu 👈 rather than Wa meaning and; Wakan could be a Root WKN.
I disagree with your interpretation. If adoption was abolished to end prophethood when how to you explain Shias? They believe revelation continued in Mohammed’s family through Ali.
BY revelation, do you mean the Quran?
@@ngutoranga2733 it depends on your interpretation of what revelation is.
For Sunnis there was revelation that was not part of quran. That is why the sunnah can abrogate a ruling in the quran. So all of Quran is revelation. but not all of revelation is or became (based on your theology) Quran.
Shias believe in the muhamadean light. All prophets and Imams have access to this light which allows them to be infallible. Some early Shias believed that revelation continued on with Ali and the Imams. Other Shias believe that access to this light give more prophetic inspiration.
I have enjoyed your videos immensely Thomas but I have a question about a previous video and the verse "I have made your birthing legitimate" which is the Syriac translation that you give (when Mary gives birth to Jesus) in opposition to the orthodox rendering "I have set a stream at your feet". After consulting the rest of the verse in the Quran it seems to me that the more likely translation is the orthodox rather than the Syriac. The remainder of the verse goes on - "I have set a stream at your feet and a tree beside you full of dates, shake the tree and then drink and eat at your pleasure" or something like that. I wondered if you had any response to this, and is this just an anomalous situation where the Syriac translation is incorrect or an indication that there is something wrong with the German/Syriac thesis at large. Cheers.
TBH, it's been a while since I've read the Luxenberg translation, but he never only picks out individual passages but looks at them in the larger context. There's a lot more to this. Luxenberg shows that in context, Mary's biggest fear was that her birth would be seen as illegitimate. So it was important to remove that fear. Then, afterwards, she's told to eat and be happy.
Luxenberg has a long chapter on it in his book on the Syro-Aramaic reading of the Koran.
@@TAlexander The idea that the early stages of Islam evolved out of an anti-trinitarian form of Christianity seems very compelling, I am amazed that I've never encountered the idea before. Thank you for introducing it to me, because I've been thinking of nothing else for days. However, there are some stories in the the formulation of early Islam that seem to be quite detrimental to the character of the prophet. The stories I'm thinking about are the situation where he marries the wife of his (adopted) son, as you mention in this video, and also the story of Aisha's potential infidelity. Both times the prophet receives a convenient message from God to resolve the situation. John baptising Jesus is taken as an embarrassing event and the fact that this is embarrassing is taken as evidence that this actually happened. I have wondered if these Mohammedan events should be taken likewise. They seem like strange things to make up.
@@extremaz9908 Even more compelling: Jesus's crucifixion. This would never be made up by his disciples. And of course this caused immense controversy for centuries. How could one pretend that God would be so shamed? This is one of the most powerful arguments against the odd contention that Jesus was not crucified (for instance, as most Muslims have interpreted the Quran).
I would agree that these Muhammad stories seem embarrassing so have the ring of truth. But Thomas has given an alternative explanation: This tale, with shades of King David and Bathsheba, shows that Muhammad had no son and was therefore the final prophet.
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Alhumdullillah Thomas, Mashallah I see no holes in your narrative, however, such parallels and creation of prophet Mohammed requires genius and Subhanallah Arabs are quite stupid, for them to come up with all what you had described is commendable. Mahshallah!
Wouldn't there will be Muhammad |||
oh my!! this is becominge worse and worse for the SIN.
The whole idea is about justice.?. For example, no one has the right to inherit money or a family name that he does not belong to, even if the father wanted to do so.This is the right of biological children only.
Just like that God does not approve of anyone sharing what he owns, even if they was Christ and his mother, peace be upon them.
Justice with ourselves or with God is what determines our destiny to heaven or hell
Asslonzo still sleep lol
He is still searching Mecca and that will take him a while.
Hey Thomas. One minute you are saying that Muhamnad never existed. The next, you are saying he had to unadopt a son to make himself the Seal of the Prophets. 🤣
You don't seem to be paying attention.
@@two_tier_gary_rumain @David Zack he doesn’t understand what he read hhh