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I don’t think Mia is wrong for wanting the divorce, I think the problem is how non-chalant she is about including this man into their lives with the children. It’s confusing and insensitive and frankly inappropriate. It’s sad to watch those scenes with the kids
We NEED a petition to get Mia off of housewives. She is so trashy and it's disgusting to see what she is doing to her children and what she is getting them involved in. I don't want to see her. Why is it the Black housewives shows having children being involved in this sort of thing?? These are young children. We don't see such broken families or horrible moms on others housewives shows. Black women are the majority viewers of this show, we deserve better. Even Love and Hip-hop doesn't show children in their age group being put in horrible situations that can traumatize them for life.
@@st-nw7tm I wanted her off the show when she assaulted Wendy. I can’t say she’s the only wife to have a dysfunctional family situation… I mean Teresa literally went to jail but I do get the sentiment here. She’s had to many infractions for me
My Father had a Caregiver who attempted to take advantage of him during his last days. There is a special place in hell for those that take advantage of people in this way
Replay crew here hey y’all hey! Watching from Detroit! I’m hearing the echos of Nene Leakes saying “they’re declassing the show!” And that’s how I feel about Mia and her lies!
🤣🤣🤣 all Tea all shade that’s why she like I need me an attractive man now to be honest I don’t blame her cause when the money long they love an ugly man for the money 😅
Days before my mother passed, my oldest sister had my mom sign a new will which gave everything my mom ever had to that sisters not even 1 year old son. She always talked about everything being split evenly between her daughters and how she wasn’t happy that that same sister had a baby with a married man…watch your family not everyone could be trusted
Mia is horrible for dragging her kids in this while going through what appears to be a messy divorce. She introduced her side piece too soon!! Sometimes I do wonder if she’s afraid to film with G so she makes sure the kids are there so he won’t go off on her….
She has to be scared of something because I saw that extra security stick next to her door. That's a "hood" proof stick so a person cannot easily bust their way inside. I was like 😮 when I saw that "stick" next to the door. I know extra security is good but😮😮😮😮
Gizelle has a sister and a brother but they don’t want to be on the show. Her dad had a will but whoever had him sign a different one while he was in the hospital.-- also her mom and dad been divorce (this was mentioned in the season she gave her dad a birthday party in New Orleans)
27:36 Stacey accepting this treatment from TJ and viewing him as like a “new light” in her life kind of is a red flag. That marriage could’ve been terrible if TJ is some god spend to her just saying
As far as Gizelle not showing her extended family, I’m not upset about that. Maybe she’s not close with a lot of them or maybe they don’t wanna be in the show and that’s fines. Maybe that’s why she didn’t say who made him sign the will considering she said she was with him the whole time so I’m thinking she knows who was there and made him sign something that he was unaware of and that’s so messed up
I agree TJ is a problem. I personally feel he is using Stacy for whatever purpose he has planned. Giselle throwing out Stacys name in front of Andy was for a purpose. I recall how jealous Giselle was of Monique when she came on the show. I can see her going after Stacy because she a classy, beautiful and younger.
The Will: Giselle said the previous Will was “lost, thrown out” and mysteriously this new Will appeared that had a signed date of when he was incapacitated so it must be fraudulent is what Giselle is saying.
Right! I also thought she said her dad had a will. They don’t know what happened to it. Anew Will was introduced in his last days. They are working to get the new will thrown out.
Did you catch Gizelle on WWHL telling Andy , she heard that Mia was gonna be on Love and Hip Hop? He looked mad as Gizelle lowkey was trying to get her in trouble by putting that post/lie she made on blast. She also said Mia is dead to her
I don’t think it’s weird that a straight man of a particular age has never been married or doesn’t have kids. It’s happening more and more these days, especially with millennials who are second guessing having kids. Even couples who are married have delayed kids to their mid-late thirties. I’m 36, never been married and no kids. Is something wrong with me too? 🥴 I’ve dated several men my age and older who are the same. With that being said, I don’t think this applies to TJ. Something is off with him in general and I don’t think it’s because he has never been married or doesn’t have kids at his big ole age. He’s just…strange. Stacey, you in danger girl 😩😂
I've had a will since I was in my 30's because I have children. Now I need to set up a trust to protect my children. I'm always talking to my elderly aunts about getting their affairs in order, even if on a napkin that is notorized.
My elderly parents finally put their trust together, everything is evenly divided so no squabbles. It was still drama with 1 sibling sadly. And I’m the only one who watches over my folks and special needs brother.
Giselle's father had a will but someone discarded it a few days after his surgery and replaced it with the new will and forged his signature. Rewatch that part , Giselle explains all of that. She is contesting the new will. If she can get it thrown out then it will be as if he never had a will
TJ gives me closet abuser vibes. As Stacey said, (but in more depth) she thought he'd of wanted to spend some time getting to know the guys 🤷🏾♀️ he has agency and could've gone to check in with her if he felt uneasy being at the function. He was incredibly petulant in that moment. Hell, if he wanted to, he could've hung out with Stacey and the girls. You are not a tree, M O V E ✨ As a child therapist, my heart goes out to Mia's children. Being on the outskirts of what's going on with your parents is one thing. But THIS was too much and necessary
We went through 4 wills when my mom passed before the judge finally approved one from the 90s. She passed in 2023 and wrote a will in the hospital 2 weeks before she died but it didn’t stand up in court. Legal documents are a lot more tricky than most people can comprehend, especially during times of significant loss.
Maybe it’s me but I thought it was honorable that TJ wanted to wait. I still do. Too many men be all too ready to jump in bed. But I do agree his behavior and his lack of affection toward is weird.
Giselle said a new will, so that leads me to think he had a will before. Also the way she phrased it, sounds like it was someone like a GF or partner or someone close but not a sibling that pulled the new will scam. Reminds me of John Amos. This a convo that needs to be had. People need living trust, look at Wendy Williams.
Yall see her YOUNG daughter was asking how and where did they meet? You know that's because her Momma made it her business to let people know they met in a strip club and Gordon had an affair with her while in Miami. I'm sure one of that baby's friends brought it up. This is so disgusting.
Wills are a necessity, especially if you have kids. In my culture, some people have this idea if you do a will, it means you are inviting death. It took my parents until they were in their 80 to finally do a will. The only reason they made a will was that a friend of their died and the family are all fighting, trying to get a piece of it.
Replay crew - I was so uncomfortable watching the last scene with Mia’s kids. They are too young and it felt so exploitative, it seems like either one or both parents prepped them too
This episode was sooooo boring. Too much Ashley and Gizelle. I would’ve wanted to see Ashley dating on the show 3 years ago it’s not interesting anymore. They tried to soft launch that dating show Ashley Gizelle are going to be on by forcing us to watch that horrible speed dating scene and the date that followed it after. I’m not interested.
We NEED a petition to get Mia off of housewives. She is so trashy and it's disgusting to see what she is doing to her children and what she is getting them involved it. I don't want to see her. Why is it the Black housewives shows having children being involved in thissprt of thing?? These are young children. We don't see such broken families or horrible moms on pther housewives shows. Black women are the majority viewers of this show, we deserve better. Even Love and Hip-hop doesnt show children in their age group being put in horrible situations that can traumatize them for life.
I am sooo confused concerning Mia. Does she have only 2 children? So the boy that looks like Inc, is he supposed to be the product of her 1st marriage, and if so, why is Inc trying to get a paternity test for him as Gordon thinks the baby is his and not Inc. Or are there 3 children, one from the 1st marriage, one possibly Inc's child, and the little girl is Gordon's child? Is Mia lying again? Playing all this out on TV is discusting!
Giselle sister inherited their father's estate and Giselle is jealous.... FYI viewers gizzard only introduce her father to her kids first time early seasons is Potomac Giselle and her father did not have a close relationship until gizzele came on the show and reconnected n build a relationship with her father and meet her kids. So i can see how he didn't leave her anything behind in his will. But it was also sketchy to have a new will just days before he passed away that's very suspect .
I believe this could be true because remember how her father walked out of the scene with her and Jamal early on in the previous seasons? That was very telling of what her father thinks of some of her decisions/choices and even Jamal. I don't think it should have impacted her children/his grandchildren but who knows what happened when that will was established.
I use to think that men of a certain age who have no kids or have never been married are red flags too but I have a 30 year old friend who is very religious and he has only been in 1 serious relationship, but he has never slept with anyone. I have a few female friends who are the same way. It’s admirable, but this guy …. He’s awful!
What are you talking about? How can he not have a will yet get a new will? He did have a will. SHe said the original will was thrown away and someone signed his name on the new one when he was in fact sick and could not sign it.
So nice to meet you yesterday in London. U made me laugh when told me to put down my carrier bag and grabbed it calling it a scatty bag. I’ve never that expression before is it Jamaican? 😂 lol I swear the ticket said it started at 6:30 but it was 7:30 someone sai it was due to cp time😂
Mia’s scene with Gordan and her kids was disgusting. She has a man who her kids barely know living with them without them even fully knowing about the divorce with their father. She’s not thinking of their wellbeing, only about what’s best for her. Smh Also Gizelle and Ashley speed dating scene: SNOOZEFEST 🥱
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I don’t think Mia is wrong for wanting the divorce, I think the problem is how non-chalant she is about including this man into their lives with the children. It’s confusing and insensitive and frankly inappropriate. It’s sad to watch those scenes with the kids
Agree. She’s had those kids around her side piece for some time. Dysfunctional
I agree as well I actually like Mia until the kids' situation arises. So sad and CRINGY to watch.
We NEED a petition to get Mia off of housewives. She is so trashy and it's disgusting to see what she is doing to her children and what she is getting them involved in. I don't want to see her.
Why is it the Black housewives shows having children being involved in this sort of thing?? These are young children.
We don't see such broken families or horrible moms on others housewives shows. Black women are the majority viewers of this show, we deserve better. Even Love and Hip-hop doesn't show children in their age group being put in horrible situations that can traumatize them for life.
@@st-nw7tm I wanted her off the show when she assaulted Wendy. I can’t say she’s the only wife to have a dysfunctional family situation… I mean Teresa literally went to jail but I do get the sentiment here. She’s had to many infractions for me
@getreworkd omg yes! It was shocking that she was able to do that to Wendy with no repercussions.
Mia really needs to leave her children out of her drama. Using her innocent children for a storyine is despicable and classless.
Mia uses everyone
For such a trashy storyline too
Did anybody see Mia’s, daughter look at Gordon’s face and immediately got a little confused or sad for her Dad.
Mia lies to damn much! She tried to act like she told her children about divorcing Gordon and her son said “No you didn’t”.
My Father had a Caregiver who attempted to take advantage of him during his last days. There is a special place in hell for those that take advantage of people in this way
For the sake of Mia's children, Bravo should have left that scene out. It's not worth it in the long run.
Agree! It should have been left out but it's not Bravo's job to protect her kids. SHE should do that but she's just awful
I feel so bad for Mia’s kids. That whole scene made be sad and uncomfortable.
Replay crew here hey y’all hey! Watching from Detroit! I’m hearing the echos of Nene Leakes saying “they’re declassing the show!” And that’s how I feel about Mia and her lies!
They’re dragging Mia’s story line and I’m over it.
Mia is being messy with those two men and sitting down to film your kids about it is not cool. Just sad to see those kids in that manner.
When Ashley told Josh the man has to “be hot” I sat back and pondered, because I remember she married Michael Darby. No shade*
The money made Michael hot for Ashley.
All "T" all shade!!
🤣🤣🤣 all Tea all shade that’s why she like I need me an attractive man now to be honest I don’t blame her cause when the money long they love an ugly man for the money 😅
Giselle said her father did have a will and it was thrown away
Days before my mother passed, my oldest sister had my mom sign a new will which gave everything my mom ever had to that sisters not even 1 year old son. She always talked about everything being split evenly between her daughters and how she wasn’t happy that that same sister had a baby with a married man…watch your family not everyone could be trusted
TJ wearing that bonnet was just weird lol
I fast forward through Mia scenes. 😱😱 The Horror!!!
TJ is looking for a come up. Fame and fortune. Stacey better wake up.
Mia is horrible for dragging her kids in this while going through what appears to be a messy divorce. She introduced her side piece too soon!!
Sometimes I do wonder if she’s afraid to film with G so she makes sure the kids are there so he won’t go off on her….
She has to be scared of something because I saw that extra security stick next to her door. That's a "hood" proof stick so a person cannot easily bust their way inside. I was like 😮 when I saw that "stick" next to the door. I know extra security is good but😮😮😮😮
Gizelle has a sister and a brother but they don’t want to be on the show. Her dad had a will but whoever had him sign a different one while he was in the hospital.-- also her mom and dad been divorce (this was mentioned in the season she gave her dad a birthday party in New Orleans)
27:36 Stacey accepting this treatment from TJ and viewing him as like a “new light” in her life kind of is a red flag. That marriage could’ve been terrible if TJ is some god spend to her just saying
Red Pride flags is exactly it Kemp!!! I want Stacey to get out there, be spoiled, Jetset and have fun!
TJ is way too concerned with Stacey's finances and divorce. He wants to marry her with no pre-nup and take her money. TJ is not into Women.
Mia does not respect children. She does not respect their autonomy and need to be sheltered.
As far as Gizelle not showing her extended family, I’m not upset about that. Maybe she’s not close with a lot of them or maybe they don’t wanna be in the show and that’s fines. Maybe that’s why she didn’t say who made him sign the will considering she said she was with him the whole time so I’m thinking she knows who was there and made him sign something that he was unaware of and that’s so messed up
I agree TJ is a problem. I personally feel he is using Stacy for whatever purpose he has planned.
Giselle throwing out Stacys name in front of Andy was for a purpose. I recall how jealous Giselle was of Monique when she came on the show. I can see her going after Stacy because she a classy, beautiful and younger.
Watching from Zambia,Africa
Sending you love from a fellow African (Ethiopia) ❤
@st-nw7tm much love to you my fellow African sibling❤️
The Will: Giselle said the previous Will was “lost, thrown out” and mysteriously this new Will appeared that had a signed date of when he was incapacitated so it must be fraudulent is what Giselle is saying.
Yes I agree, Mia’s story as cringy. Inc should excuse himself until Mia and Gordon divorce. Dang Gordon looks really bad.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for Gordon because of how he did his wife.But as a wise man, once said, "we don't know these people."
Shocked Giselle doesn’t have a family trust for her children and she runs in those wealthy circles.
Giselle has brought both her parents on the show and gave their whole run down. Her parents were divorced and the father remarried.
Right! I also thought she said her dad had a will. They don’t know what happened to it. Anew Will was introduced in his last days. They are working to get the new will thrown out.
Did you catch Gizelle on WWHL telling Andy , she heard that Mia was gonna be on Love and Hip Hop? He looked mad as Gizelle lowkey was trying to get her in trouble by putting that post/lie she made on blast. She also said Mia is dead to her
I gotta go watch it now 😁
Kempire, it's the SHADE for me....what Giselle gonna leave her kids 😅😅😅
This had me weak😂
Mia’s daughter knows who her momma is and what she about 👀 she let her daddy know how she really feels.
I don’t think it’s weird that a straight man of a particular age has never been married or doesn’t have kids. It’s happening more and more these days, especially with millennials who are second guessing having kids. Even couples who are married have delayed kids to their mid-late thirties. I’m 36, never been married and no kids. Is something wrong with me too? 🥴 I’ve dated several men my age and older who are the same.
With that being said, I don’t think this applies to TJ. Something is off with him in general and I don’t think it’s because he has never been married or doesn’t have kids at his big ole age. He’s just…strange. Stacey, you in danger girl 😩😂
Amen! I'm 41, no kids, and single. Looking for a man in the same situation. 😊 I think TJ prefers the company of men.
I've had a will since I was in my 30's because I have children. Now I need to set up a trust to protect my children. I'm always talking to my elderly aunts about getting their affairs in order, even if on a napkin that is notorized.
I have a will and don’t even have children or dependents.
@PRINCESSGEMINI1987 smart. Protect those that you love
I wonder if Ink was an issue in Mia’s first marriage
My guess is yes.
Gizelle said he had a will that someone threw away.
You can’t just throw a will away. Once it’s signed it becomes record
@@jmyrtil0910 Figuratively. The old will was "thrown" out when this new one was signed. I dont think Gizelle meant it literally
To clarify: There was a first will and she said they thru that one out and a second will was signed
My elderly parents finally put their trust together, everything is evenly divided so no squabbles. It was still drama with 1 sibling sadly. And I’m the only one who watches over my folks and special needs brother.
kemp had me dead at “red pride flags”
It was lovely seeing and meeting with you yesterday Kampire ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Giselle's father had a will but someone discarded it a few days after his surgery and replaced it with the new will and forged his signature. Rewatch that part , Giselle explains all of that. She is contesting the new will. If she can get it thrown out then it will be as if he never had a will
You can do wills, trusts, living trusts, POA so important
Stevie Wonder can see Tj is one of the GWOLS!!!
Didn’t Giselle say the other person threw the original will in the trash??
I loved when her daughter asked her to setup a trust. Girl don’t try and use that as a reason not to have a relationship 13:54
TJ gives me closet abuser vibes. As Stacey said, (but in more depth) she thought he'd of wanted to spend some time getting to know the guys 🤷🏾♀️ he has agency and could've gone to check in with her if he felt uneasy being at the function.
He was incredibly petulant in that moment. Hell, if he wanted to, he could've hung out with Stacey and the girls. You are not a tree, M O V E ✨
As a child therapist, my heart goes out to Mia's children. Being on the outskirts of what's going on with your parents is one thing. But THIS was too much and necessary
I was watching this episode while doing the dishes and I was so surprised by how quickly it ended. It was so boring!!
Lmao same
We went through 4 wills when my mom passed before the judge finally approved one from the 90s. She passed in 2023 and wrote a will in the hospital 2 weeks before she died but it didn’t stand up in court. Legal documents are a lot more tricky than most people can comprehend, especially during times of significant loss.
TJ is so thirsty! He thinks he was the one casted for the show. And all he wants to do is play tag. She needs to move on, QUIcKLY!!!!!!
She said he had a will
Maybe it’s me but I thought it was honorable that TJ wanted to wait. I still do. Too many men be all too ready to jump in bed. But I do agree his behavior and his lack of affection toward is weird.
Giselle said a new will, so that leads me to think he had a will before. Also the way she phrased it, sounds like it was someone like a GF or partner or someone close but not a sibling that pulled the new will scam. Reminds me of John Amos. This a convo that needs to be had. People need living trust, look at Wendy Williams.
Yall see her YOUNG daughter was asking how and where did they meet? You know that's because her Momma made it her business to let people know they met in a strip club and Gordon had an affair with her while in Miami. I'm sure one of that baby's friends brought it up. This is so disgusting.
Kempire, you need to review love never lies S/A. Is hilarious, good tv I tell u
Icky is that a number 😂😩🤦♀️😭
Gizelle’s mom never appeared after Gizelle said that her mom wanted to move in with her but she planned to have Sherman move in.
Replay crew here
@Kempire when are you coming to Dallas 😊😊
I thought Giselle said they had a will, but they tore it up and threw it in the trash
Kemp you need to go to winter wonderland if you’re into Christmas markets it’s one of the biggest attractions in London and it’s free entry
31:13 please come to Houston we will be in the muthaaa effin building!
Replay crew recap starts around 4:35 🌹
Wills are a necessity, especially if you have kids. In my culture, some people have this idea if you do a will, it means you are inviting death. It took my parents until they were in their 80 to finally do a will. The only reason they made a will was that a friend of their died and the family are all fighting, trying to get a piece of it.
Hey from the replay crew! Sidebar, Kempire I wish you would come to Chicago! I live close enough to drive. (There is a city winery there 😉 😉 😊)😊
TJay reminds me of Ronald from Chewing Gum lol.. if you have seen that show you will get the reference ..
Omg 100% 😂😂
Where’s the Christmas music?
Anyone notice how Ashley quickly changed the topic back to herself after Josh opened up about something so profound? That was weird.
Replay crew - I was so uncomfortable watching the last scene with Mia’s kids. They are too young and it felt so exploitative, it seems like either one or both parents prepped them too
Hey Kempire, I'm a 41 year old female with no kids and never married...is that a red flag? Maybe that's why I'm single!😅
They seem like they making up story line now kinda boring fake n phony
No, she said someone “threw away” the original will
Kempire! Did you see what Gizzy said on WWHL about Mia and Love and Hip Hop? If not please go watch that moment and Andy’s response!
We get the old intro
This episode was sooooo boring. Too much Ashley and Gizelle. I would’ve wanted to see Ashley dating on the show 3 years ago it’s not interesting anymore. They tried to soft launch that dating show Ashley Gizelle are going to be on by forcing us to watch that horrible speed dating scene and the date that followed it after. I’m not interested.
Karen needs to give her husband a facial
We NEED a petition to get Mia off of housewives. She is so trashy and it's disgusting to see what she is doing to her children and what she is getting them involved it. I don't want to see her.
Why is it the Black housewives shows having children being involved in thissprt of thing?? These are young children.
We don't see such broken families or horrible moms on pther housewives shows. Black women are the majority viewers of this show, we deserve better. Even Love and Hip-hop doesnt show children in their age group being put in horrible situations that can traumatize them for life.
I'm sorry I'm confused... But why doesn't TH-cam promote their channels and y'all's businesses? Isn't that more money for them?
I am sooo confused concerning Mia. Does she have only 2 children? So the boy that looks like Inc, is he supposed to be the product of her 1st marriage, and if so, why is Inc trying to get a paternity test for him as Gordon thinks the baby is his and not Inc. Or are there 3 children, one from the 1st marriage, one possibly Inc's child, and the little girl is Gordon's child? Is Mia lying again? Playing all this out on TV is discusting!
Giselle sister inherited their father's estate and Giselle is jealous.... FYI viewers gizzard only introduce her father to her kids first time early seasons is Potomac Giselle and her father did not have a close relationship until gizzele came on the show and reconnected n build a relationship with her father and meet her kids. So i can see how he didn't leave her anything behind in his will. But it was also sketchy to have a new will just days before he passed away that's very suspect .
I believe this could be true because remember how her father walked out of the scene with her and Jamal early on in the previous seasons? That was very telling of what her father thinks of some of her decisions/choices and even Jamal. I don't think it should have impacted her children/his grandchildren but who knows what happened when that will was established.
I use to think that men of a certain age who have no kids or have never been married are red flags too but I have a 30 year old friend who is very religious and he has only been in 1 serious relationship, but he has never slept with anyone. I have a few female friends who are the same way. It’s admirable, but this guy …. He’s awful!
This and Married to Medicine was filler episodes this week so next weekend they should be 🔥. Also Mia needs to stop talking nonchalant around her kids
Unless he felt like her and the girls were well taken care of?
I hate when gizelle called them people “ her glam squad “ gizelle you really called what they do to you glam huh 😂
What are you talking about? How can he not have a will yet get a new will? He did have a will. SHe said the original will was thrown away and someone signed his name on the new one when he was in fact sick and could not sign it.
Are you really going to throw a fit because there's not one black person on the new selling sunset whatever city they're in. Stop get over it.
It wasn't a fit, just an observation. 🤷🏾♀️
Oh stop it. Black people do not have to be on every darn show.
Ashley is way better than Wendy.
The show went down hill when Candiace and Wendy joined. We need Robyn and Monique back
So nice to meet you yesterday in London.
U made me laugh when told me to put down my carrier bag and grabbed it calling it a scatty bag. I’ve never that expression before is it Jamaican? 😂 lol I swear the ticket said it started at 6:30 but it was 7:30 someone sai it was due to cp time😂
Mia’s scene with Gordan and her kids was disgusting. She has a man who her kids barely know living with them without them even fully knowing about the divorce with their father. She’s not thinking of their wellbeing, only about what’s best for her. Smh
Also Gizelle and Ashley speed dating scene: SNOOZEFEST 🥱
No, she said someone “threw away” the original will