You know what the Fallout show feels like to me? The Witcher show from Netflix. Witcher Season 1 while highly praised was incredibly flawed and what kept it going was a good actor and the potential for greatness. But there were BIG red flags that couldn’t really be ignored notably in the showrunners and diversity hires. And it all fell apart in Season 2 due to the exact same problems. I think why so many people are giving Fallout a (unjustified) pass is because we expected a catastrophic show and instead got a surprisingly watchable one. And “fans” are trying to cope with battered-housewife syndrome.
I really didn't like the Witcher season 1. Also could not understand the hype for Mandalorian season 1 I thought it sucked. Kinda liked Fallout though.
@@rekzvs8547 I can explain both of those. The Witcher there was an understanding that they were going in the direction of the books which got a popularity boost from the games and most fans of the games (myself included) were okay with that. Mandolorian came out after The Last Jedi and it wasn't that. And if I need to explain that to you, do you got some homework to do. Fallout is following a similar path to Mandolorian in that it's not on the same level of awful as something like Velma or She-Hulk. And I feel like people are getting duped by that fact alone.
As a nerdy girl, I don’t understand the need for “representation.” I’ve loved sci-fi and fantasy since I was a toddler. I loved watching Xena and thought she was cool and all, but my fictional role model at that age was Picard. My favorite X-Men characters were Wolverine and Sabertooth. As an adult, I can also see that there are lots of badass women like Ripley. Hell, sci-fi as a genre was invented by a woman. I care about cool shit, not the chromosomes of the characters doing it.
I have a hard time getting into things now mostly because I cant separete what it was from what it is a sort of "all roads lead to rome" mindset.
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It was already going woke and fools kept saying "Nah it wont go woke" even as it went through the usual slow infiltration and little things here and there.
Blackrock rule Amazon Amazon rule games workshop game workshop rule warhammer. Blackrock want Amazon to raise their esg rating which is a social credit score for companies . Games workshop have to reluctantly toe the line.
I am convinced that blackrock is just a genius elaborate stock-shorting scheme, because literally the only thing the company is capable of is tanking the stock of anything that its invested in.
That is part of it. They want the economy to crash. Makes it cheaper for them to buy everything. Part of the plan. The elite will own everything. "You will own nothing and be happy".
If it is, it's a stupidly expensive one. This DEI scheme has cost them 30 billion in losses and a lot of companies just rejecting deals made by them. But don't take my word for it, just look up Larry Fink in the latest earnings call.
Gary: "The showrunners are from Westworld." You mean that show about robots that had everybody secretly be a robot the whole time because they ran out of plot twists? Those guys?
Yep, the same Showrunners that have 1 good season in them. Season 2-4 of Westworld was boring trash. Same will probably happen with Fallout. I also predict the done to death trope of interrace romance. I like the female lead, she's good, but I thought discount Jonathan Majors was rubbish. But no doubt they'll get together.
The main showrunner is Jonathan Nolan, the brother of Christopher Nolan, the guy who wrote Memento, Interstellar & the Dark Knight Trilogy. He also made the excellent Person of Interest show, starring Jim Cavieziel.
@@doublep1980 most of it self-aggrandising wank! Including Tenet, the cherry on top of the mental-masturbation pile! Ok, he has a few movies which are not bad, but in general he is massively overrated, just like Interstellar, Inception, Memento, etc. Haven't seen Dunkirk as yet (war movies ain't my jam) or Oppenheimer (glorifying war crimes against humanity ain't my jam either).
36:04 1/4B just summarized the entirety of modern entertainment zeitgeist - "If you don't think about anything - the show is great." every single modern show falls apart the moment you start applying even a modicum of critical thinking. They don't even follow their own logic scene to scene for the most part.
Watched the first two episodes of Fallout and was completely uninterested in everything apart from Walton Goggins. Maximus' only character trait seems to be that he's constantly bullied for some reason. Why are they solely picking on Maximus (a young athletic guy who looks like he could put up a fight)? Why are they not picking on the other characters, like the trans man? Isn't it customary for bullies to go after the weakest of the bunch, not the strongest?
I quit after episode two. The only relevant plot point was "What is with the scientist ('s head)?". That's very basic, lazy writing. I focus on "Shogun", this show is lightyears ahead.
I didn't care enough to continue after episode 1. Then again, I never played the game so maybe that makes a difference? Regardless, Drinker and anyone else who likes this show is a coping cuckold, nothing more.
To be fair Emil and Todd already had made Fallout a flanderized version of itself bordering on parody. Doesn't excuse problems with the script of course. But helps to explain why the tone was so... reddit. If you squint I could be convinced I was watching Borderlands instead.
Right? The world of fallout has never *actually* fit together as a whole, it's that brilliant aesthetic choice of a wasteland full of nostalgia that's always captured audiences. Nobody has ever particularly liked the Fallout main plots, most people actually play the games for the "thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time." As far as that journey goes, the crazy random encounters the crew goes through? THOSE were all pretty good, so really I appreciate that it's a pretty accurate adaption of Fallout, warts and all.
I mean, granted that it amped up a lot with Bethesda. But let's not pretend that top down, isometric rpgs didn't benefit greatly from painting broad strokes and letting the imagination fill the rest in. Vault City had what, 15 buildings? The writing was certainly *better* but they were on a much smaller scale, and your nostalgia glasses are a little thick.
Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai is the best film I've ever seen, its such an insult to say that masterpiece shares a microgram of content with Rebel Moon
56:40 that is another retcon. The vault experiments were originally ordered by the Enclave(which Vault-Tec answered to) to test things before the Enclave left earth to colonize a new world after the war in a generation ship.
Its also inportant to remember they canceled that plan as they lost funding. Hence the mothballed rockets that would have featured in "Van Buren" but the most important aspect of this lore is that Vault Tec didn't start off *insane, that writing came later*
When the wife looks up at the shadowy figure in the balcony, couldn't that be the Enclave & they are giving her the OK to "suggest" the idea of vault experiments?
3:03:00 YES, Kirsche is awesome and is probably the best person Jeremy could have gotten to actually talk about BRIDGE and how much worse and more invasive it is looking to be compared to DEI. Also helps that she is incredibly down to earth and funny as hell.
Bridge, DEI etc…. It’s all for the ESG rating which is an early version of social credit score for companies that they’ll implement for individuals eventually. Larry fink and his globalist agenda
I think she’d be better off guesting on Open Bar or even Real BBC (the irony isn’t lost on me), since those shows allow each person to talk more often I still wouldn’t complain if she wound up on FNT, though
@@braddl9442 I would agree but then I remember Fallout 4 & 76 with woke-Bethesda (Mamfield too) So yeah series long dead! Elder Scrolls 6 is dead for "fans" as well.
@@JoelLeonhart As long as Emil Pagliarulo is lead writer for Bethesda, anything they put out will be uninspired and lackluster in writing. The man's said himself he's unwilling to learn from criticism or get better, he's literally just an unqualified stooge
This so much. Any reasonable criticism of the series results in Bethesda drones and casual tourists coming down on you with screams of rage. They don't care about what original Fallout stood for. They just want memberberries and perpetual repetition of same old vaults, BoS, Enclave, 50's, pre-war tech and so on. Bethesda fans are unironically one of the most loathsome fan groups out there, reveling in their ignorance and bad taste.
The thing I'm most shocked about is how mauler treated Fallout vs TLOU tv show. Like with how hard he went against fallout, you'd think the same would be done for TLOU
Totally agree. It's like Mauler is on a campaign to convince every other content creator he knows how bad Fallout is. Why he never dismantled The Last Of Us in the same way is weird.
Haven't seen Fallout, but it sounds like it was at least tonally light which explains some of the forgiveness of plot holes. TLOU took itself dreadfully serious which made the wiring problems so much worse
The entire Fallout show was "White man bad." From the raider Lucy marries in the beginning who tries to kill her, to the weak, pathetic, Michael Rapaport Brotherhood knight.
Should have known this being an Amazon production. Along with them choosing a female vault dweller for a demographic dominated by males 🤷♂️ That's why we have this mixed medley cast of children with poor writing and bad humor 🤦♂️
After watching all the Fall Out and it actually gets better, the last episode was brilliant! It made everything click together and I give it a 8/10 Goggins made the series way better. AZ needs to shop shouting!
24:23 *_FNT_* Panel on *_Rebel Moon_* and *_The Rise of Skywalker_* - WELL! *Paul Tassi* of *_Forbes_* wrote, quote, "I believe that if you think [that *_The Rise of Skywalker_* is] worse than the prequels, you are either insane or lying. "I also would go a step further and say that in the end, it’s probably the best of the new trilogy, though well behind the originals and _Rogue One_ ." This was in his article called *_A List Of All JJ Abrams’ Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker ‘Corrections’ Of Past Movies_* (21 Dec 2019). Paul still stands behind those words _today._ And that is why I still will not read his articles anymore. Now, if Paul were to say, "I have retracted that article and publicly apologize for calling _real_ *fans* "insane or lying," _then_ I might reconsider. I won't hold my breath for that apology, though... [EDIT: Immediate typo correction]
Fallout did have its flaws, but I liked it A LOT on first viewing less so on second. IVe played Fallout 3, New Vegas and Fallout 4 for hundreds and hundreds of hours. 1st viewing 9/10 for me. Second viewing 7,5 ish 8/10 tops. Still really like it though. I usually agree with FNT, their opinions on Fallout and Dungeons and Dragons though, not so much.
MauLer: Explains how the entire plot is broken and character motovations are messed up, nothing makes sense, everyoje is stupid, and how theres no payoffs or any good story telling Fallout enjoyer : Just nit picks bro
How much does a continuity department cost a production? Personnel, documentation, script review, and editing. FOR RED FELT MARKERS to write those little notes on the script. I want to see the financial breakdown on something that tried (ballpark an example from the 90s or early 2000s) and then I want to see how much is clearly being saved today. You have 8 episodes. Not 24. 8 episodes to line up. I want to see the savings.
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Yep same crap with Hazbin Hotel, only 8, 20 minute episodes....... for a show that needed at least 45 minutes per episode and maybe 20 episodes to really dig deeper into the characters. As of right now half the "development" of the characters is off screen and you have to just assume things happened between episodes. What is worse is that it was one thing to reference other things in a show, but like B5 or SG-1 you mention it and move on with the main story, or make a joke out of it or something. But to rely on the viewer to fill in gaps or make up their own head canon is just dumb. Honestly the savings either went into an execs bank account or the money got wasted on DEI hires.
less episodes and bigger budgets is probably from money spent on consultants, sensitivity readers, intimacy co-ordinators, catering on a grander scale, extra breaks, assistants for the assistants and so on
I was surprised I enjoyed it, I liked the vibe and feel of it.. You do have to leave your brain at the door for the plot but the ghoul is totally Awsome and so worth watching just for him!!
Jeremy is thinking of "Funny People", not "Reign over me"...That one is about Adam Sandler, playing a fireman with PTSD after 9/11. Don Cheadle is also in "Reign Over Me" "Funny People" is where Adam Sandler plays a comedian suffering with cancer. Seth Rogan is also in "Funny People"
For a superior game series to fallout overall I have found the Metro and Stalker series which has better world building and actually takes its world seriously
@@jordanbolm8517 1st stalker was complete shit and it got amazing with mods like Anomaly, 2nd stalker is definitely would be same shit like just released Stalker 1 remake which is hilariously bad LOL, devs just milking microsoft for money and pandering to politics and wokeness
@@jasongodfrey4158because he thinks he is bigger than the show and has such a high opinion of himself. If it wasn't Gary hosting he would have been gone a long time ago. I really don't know how the others out up with the interruptions.. If you notice drinker and efap vary rarely have him on.
Two things about Fallout: Each episode has 13-14 executive producers, producers and co-executive producers. Why? And why doesn’t Lucy’s father know truth about vaults 32 and 31 considering he was “read on” to the overall Vaultec plan?
Production credits are now part of the negotiation process. I'm guessing that if you want a Producer credit you take less wages. Depends what you want more.
I watched both rebel moon back to back, fell asleep during both of them... Pro tip: Throw your battles into Arma first and see if they work, if your good guys gets merked in 4 minutes then come up with a better plan and try again until you have an epic battle that makes sense. They had a perfect killzone, but instead of using it they ran out and started beating the enemies with their guns...
I have never seen someone use arma as a baseline for battles and man does it make sense for stuff with guns. Protip: use mods like ASRAI3 or other ai mods and maybe ACE for the added realism factor, the vanilla ai is pretty grody and can get bested quick.
@@zab6124 I feel like if they just ran a mission and tweaked it a bunch of times they could get a good grasp of how the battle should go in the movie, but instead we have people with axes rush firing lines and win...
Yeah it's honestly more entertaining to make a game out of finding all of the ways that the writers of movies & TV these days know nothing about guns, or about really basic strategic decisions whatsoever, in whatever it is they are writing.
that's the thing with the Fallout show, it's not bad but it's also not amazing, i.e., it's average at best yet game adaptations are almost always so bad that people end up overrating an okay show as "amazing", fueled by astroturfing by Amazon.
Yes, this is the sanest take on this show. They got some things right but it doesn't make the whole thing amazing. Plus the producers take that this show is canon? This screams the Witcher by S2.
@@Langley_Ackerman19 yup, similar thing I saw with One Piece live action, sooo many bad anime adaptations that an okay one was overrated as "amazing" when it really wasn't all that good as a tv shows judged as one.
There have always been female Custodes. I’m cool with it. My head canon will now be that they are the ones being sacrificed to keep the God Emperor alive!
The show is based on Bethesda's Fallout which took the classic lore and story and bastardized it and dumbed it down for a more casual audience...I guess. Bethesda is also famous for having terrible writing. Simply put, the show sucks if you love F1,F2, or New Vegas. It also sucks in general. But if you got low standards, like Bethesda writing, and like the dumb humor, I'm sure you'll like it. With that said, anybody that likes Maximus should never be allowed near a script or writers room.
I really loved the first half of the fallout show. The last half starts to kind of fall apart but overall I still really enjoyed it. Watching it just felt like playing fallout again and ive been going through the games again cause the show got me so hyped up for more fallout. Lucy and the ghoul pretty awesome and fun characters, maximus is so bad tho.
Remember when the Soviets dropped a hydro bomb in the Cold War to demonstrate and the nuclear war didn't happen because bout sides knew it would end the world but the public still panicked and built their own nuclear shelter?
Despite it's flaws I really enjoyed the fallout show. Edit: After listening to the panel point out every little story / plot flaw or dumb idea that made it's way into the script, I realized that you could point out a large number of the same / similar issues with they're beloved stuff like OG Star Wars, Dr Who, Marvel before an after it went to shit, LoTR, Star Trek, etc. In case anyone asks, I like all of the above except Dr Who and the newer Marvel and Shit Clown Wars.
@@LokiTricksterG True, which does help to explain some of the plot inconsistencies between films but it doesn't justify the things like the crappy acting, or plot inconsistencies in a single flim. Or when something stupid makes it into the script like not shooting down the escape pod just because it didn't show life forms. In all fairness, we can probably find flaws in everything that's ever been on screen if we think about it.
I was tempted to call your edit out as sophistry but instead I’m going to explore some of the issues you brought up. Your point, in a nutshell, is that everything has flaws; I would argue that the franchises that you mentioned had good things going for them that outweighs the bad. After seeing the battle of Hoff, in ESB, for the first time as a kid in the eighties, you’ll forgive the odd plot hole. So, I’m curious, what did you enjoy about fallout that outweighed the flaws mentioned by the panel?
@@hendrixisgod777 I did say I'm a fan of the examples I rambled off, and I realize that the good offsets the bad in almost all media, that's why I tend to overlook most flaws unless they completely take me out of the world the creatives are try to show. For the Fallout show, I could care less about the difference between Obsidian's games and Bethesda's so the lore issues didn't bother me. I would say I enjoyed it as a kind of mindless entertainment thing. It's one of those things that you just turn your brain off and enjoy the over the top violence and camp. Kind of like watching a chessy 80's action movie. I'm 44 so I missed seeing the OG Star Wars in the theaters. I think the first time I saw A New Hope was 1985ish.
@@hendrixisgod777 I guess a better way to say it might be that if you're only looking for the bad when consuming any form of entertainment, you're going to find the bad, and possibly miss or ignore anything good. That's not to say we shouldn't point out the truly bad entertainment or give bad entertainment a pass. I think for a lot of people, the fallout show might come off as better than it is due to almost everything else being crap lately. Like it's a mediocre show that stands out amongst turds.
"The whole thing with Vault-Tec is that each vault is an experiment, and I don't remember why they did that..." The Enclave made them do that. That wasn't even Vault-Tec's idea. They also forget that Vault-Tec can't be the ultimate villains because they forgot they've been previously established to be underlings.
I love you guys! But, I really wish you had a guest on that knows the fallout lore back to front. Would have helped the conversation about the fallout series.
43:30 I thought the reveal was going to be that periodically a portion if the group is locked inside the other fault with no resources. That way they starve to death and theres more food and water for whoevers left.
Rebel Moon Part 1 and 2 is a masterclass in bad filmmaking. If you want to be a writer or director, you have to know what makes a film bad, not just what makes one good. That is the only positive thing I can say about this. It is so bad beyond belief and apparently a big hit for Netflix! Does that mean more of this sh1te is coming? I bet Snyder is working on it right now!
So I don't watch allot of TV shows but I liked fallout just for the fun. Totally won me over with the fallout winks and fun. And the big reveals weren't good. I think you guys are always wanting 10 of 10 7 of 10 happens with fun movies this never had a chance to be amazing cuz it's fallout
The part when he talks about the T45 power armor flaw, they want you to notice him loading in a bullet. I guess we're supposed to believe this bullet isn't the same as the ones he was firing earlier.
Still dumb that the failure the T45 armor design had, an armor created in a hurry to fight a particular battle, remain in the armor 2 generation later. Even dumber if you think that those weren´t old T60, but the new T60 the Brotherhood created and used, updated with the best tech they could mass produce.
@@Eagl3xStrik3COPIUM. He doesn't have them when he fights Maxipad, he happens to have it when he fights no-names. It's also absurd that they even have a weakness in their center mass. These are combat suits, the most tested part of the armor would be front and center.
fallout was fun and enjoyable, I usually agree with these guys media view but on this I don't. The show captures the vibe of the game. And acoring to rotten tomato ratting, the majoity of people like it. It's a good show.
I watched that transformers one trailer, immediately sent it to my friends with the message. "Why do they think kids are stupid now". I liked transformers. Not because of constant shitty humour, it was about the actual stories and character's. We had amazing shit like, king arthur and the knights of justice, tmnt, M.A.S.K, bravestar, x-men, spiderman. I dont remember any of these shows being constantly fucking ridiculous. Sometimes they had some pretty serious themes. That probably helped us grow and mature a bit. Doing this constantly infantile adhd type shite for kids is, i feel the worst thing you can do. Theyre all stuck to their phones and tablets as it is and these companies cant be bothered to even make something worthy of people paying money to go and see. I'd never take my kids to go and see this. Just watch the 1986 movie instead. At least that has feeling.
Mediocre is the new great. I enjoyed Fallout for the most part. Maximas is annoying af. I thought it was how the character was suppose to be.. then I saw an interview with him. Yeah. Not a fan. Of course. The thing character in ep1 and ep8 irritated tf outta me. Wanted to Avada Kedavra it just like Sirona in Hogwarts Legacy.
Didn’t see the interview.. but I had the same feelings at first. Granted his writing got worse throughout the show. He’s just a terrible actor in this. Like man it was annoying haha.
Are you actually THAT upset that a shit show isn't just being blindly praised. Bro, are you a normie that just wandered in here?
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Yeah you can, you can with anything, doesn't invalidate crapping on the crap out of hollywood these days. It is weird how back then the problems may be noticeable but at least it wasnt on purpose and Joss didn't call people nazis for saying anything bad about the show.
Mauler has said dozens of times that there's a lot of goofy shit in Buffy, going so far as to rate the seasons individually and not recommend certain ones if you can't get past the bad parts. And he has been open for years about not being "objective" about many of his takes. You can just say you're big mad that he criticized something you like, ya know?
Part 2 was actually worse than Part 1, there were some good things but just handled so badly. I left my brain out of it for PT 1 and it was fine but PT 2 even doing that didn't help, it was dumb, so much time-wasting, terrible character development. Even the battle just got boring, it was the same things over and over, that hand axe guy, how he didn't get hit by any of that weapon fire. Made the 'A Team' look like 'Saving Private Ryan'. .But yes still better than 'Rise Of Skywalker'
Well I already boycotted GamesWorkshop because their company was corrupt, their videogame studios behave just as badly, and its a bunch of overpriced bits of plastic and books that will be obsolete in a few months because of the physical-media-equivalent of "post launch patches" (and to nobody's surprise, the "new" army codex to come out is always overpowered as heck and then gets nerfed later on.) In terms of settings, I always preferred Battletech tabletop anyways (although fascies have also su*cided their own company on that one too ( "Remember, No Capellans" ) ) - but even though their pricing isn't as egregious as GW I still found it too much of an 'expensive' hobby to get into & usually just ran games with a close in-group of friends with the old paper card placeholder figurines that used to come in those starter game box sets.
Jeremy’s description of Fallout, *IF* it was *REAL LIFE* : Tell me Jeremy didn’t play the Fallout games without telling me he didn’t play the Fallout games. Dude, some heinous things happened in those games, but they don’t show it. It’s all in the lore on computers and on written notes. Plus in the games, they have raiders, other factions, large and nasty animals out to destroy survivors, ghouls, other nasty settlements, factions fighting one another, etc. Also, read the lore behind some of the vaults in the game. They weren’t good One vault in Fallout 4, maybe 3, I can’t remember which, was running human test experiments on their dwellers. So, just like in real life, it’s not all peachy in the Wasteland
The Fallout universe is so interesting Amazon didnt need to make this stupid nonsense. The Pre-war period can essentially be summed up as "holding your breath to the apocalypse". Its not a matter of _if_ the nukes get launched, but when. The world was largely already tapped on its resource generation potential, and the world was quite literally running out of being able to produce enough food, water, and medicine for everyone. This can be seen in prewar holotapes of people starting to riot because the cost of food was rising faster than the people could potentially make money. This is why Operation Anchorage is so important. If China doesn't establish a successful foothold in Alaska, they won't have enough resources to try again... ever. This is why China launched the nukes after the invasion failed. There is a pretty convincing reason why -Vault-tec- the Enclave would consider laucnhing the nukes. It would be a depopulation agenda via nuclear fire. But this is still unneeded because there is already a built-in reason for why it was China and the US wasnt as prepared as it could have been. About half of the Vaults were built for largely benefecent reasons. Save American lives so they can prosper in the future. It isnt until the Enclave takes control of Vault-tec where they decide to change and start operating experiments on the vaults population. The intention is no longer on America inheriting the future, but the Enclave specifically. The show takes place in the middle of downtown LA. In Fallout 1 this is prime Super Mutant territory and considering how out-in-the-open they are - they would have been discovered. As seen by Vault 17 and in the Super Mutant ending the Super Mutants are plenty capable of prying the vault sealing open and getting inside. The show is over 160 years before it has a chance to happen - if we're being consistent with Fallout lore. Then theres Fallout 2. Lets assume Vaults 31, 32, and 33 have advanced cyrotech. Each of these vaults have a couple hundred people in them and they are all directly affiliated with Vault-tec and tangentially connected to the Enclave. In Fallout 2, the Enclave emerges from their own vaults with advanced technology to conquer the wasteland. The presumption then has to be made that the Enclave in Fallout 2 simply chooses to reduce the likelihood of their own success and not increase their own forces by 600 prewar educated personnel to assist their war efforts. Which totally sounds like something post-apocalyptic, techno-fascists would do. And not use every means, resource, and tactic at their disposal to secure the future. It even have a contrivance of having Mr House in Los Angles and Las Vegas simultaneously so he could have been at the meeting with Vault-tec launching the nukes(which doesnt happen in the lore) and also be in New Vegas using his anti-icmb laser deterrant to save Vegas from the nukes which he can tell you about. Plus the shows defenders regularly get themselves caught up on the status of the strength of the NCR where the NCR is both present yet so weak as to not be influential. This makes nuking Shady Sands largely pointless. I regularly get conflicting information at the importance of Shady Sands where somehow its not so important to completely disrupt the NCR and have them mobilize their other forces, but also significant enough to stagger the NCR. Plus if the NCR had much, if any strength at all, they would be using it against the Brotherhood of Steel So the NCR are in a very contrived position where they are strong enough to warrant nuking but not strong enough to push back a single Prydwen/Brotherhood of Steel chapter. Which they were shown to be able to defeat in New Vegas. So the shows NCR is as strong as it needs to be for the mindless person who may enjoy the show - to enjoy the show. Plus for the Eastern Brotherhood of Steel to get to NCR territory they would end up flying over Boomer territory and New Vegas who has those aforementioned laser deterrants and the Brotherhood of Steel would be aandwiched between multiple hostile factions. They would be attritioned into annihilation especially as the Western part of the Fallout universe is significantly more organized than the Eastern forces. The show could have been amazing and all they would have needed to do is stick with the lore of the setting. Instead they worked harder to produce worse results.
okay, lets address some things, vault 31-32-33 and filled with pencil pushers, middle management, not pre war scientists, please tell me what use are pencil pushers in the post apocalypse, not to mention the enclaves plans was complete global saturation house being in la is largely inconsequential, because he had already predicted nuclear war in 2065, 12 years prior, the ghouls daughter is about the same age before he took the vault gig and after, so that meeting wouldve happened after 2070s, so house already had plans for nuke deterrents shady sands was a thriving community which is the problem for vault tech, the strength of ncr is irrelevant because at the time, they were on the campaign for the mojave, which is basically an iraq war allegory, too many lives and too much money as been spent on it, if kimball lives and gets control of hoover dam, he loses his career because it took that long and was solved in a week by one person and they go full reverse, if they capture and kimbal dies, he becomes a martyr and then the legion war continues, draining more ncr resources, basically lose-lose the cool thing about flying is that you fly, you can just go around, and the western brotherhood is in worse shape because of the ncr war and are hiding in bunkers, especially since they dont really recruit outsiders, getting new troops, new technology and weapons from the east is a BIG boon for the west since they have mobility, ncr does not have vehicles, they walk everyone the real lore problems are, what are all these enclaves doing here, whats a yao guai doing in the west coast outside of zion, ghoul serums, wheres the nightstalkers, cazadores, geckos, and mantis
@@nuhrii3449 "Vaults 31, 32, 33 are* filled with pencil pushers." A body is a body. A pencil pusher from the vault can help with logistics and telemetry. Or simply trained to be spies and information collectors. This means you have more flexibility and get more usage from the trained killers. At worst they become meat-shields. "House being in LA is largely inconsequential." The issue is that it has him in two separate places at the same time because the show is more invested in skinsuiting as a Fallout property than actually understanding the lore. "The NCR strength is irrelevant..." No. As I mentioned in the original comment the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel are expressed enemies. The NCR's strength is vital for this dynamic to seem realistic - which is why it doesn't. Because the show creators don't know much of anything about the universe outside of calling back to some names for member-berries. "...they were on campaign for the Mojave..." Nope. Fallout New Vegas took place in 2181, this show takes place in 2196. This takes about a decade after the events of New Vegas, even giving the events a few years to occur. And as outlined by my comment this show seems to make the House/Yes Man endings canon. It would also be nonsensical for the NCR to hold Vegas and be surprised by the Prydwen. That you mention later.
@@annatardlordofderps9181 okay so you actually didnt understand anything that i said. middle management is not good at logistics, their job is mostly busy work and meat shields are not that useful, especially since their job was to control civies, and the enclave had deathclaws house is rich, he can afford to travel to other places, things take time to happen and you can do other things while said things are happening and will still be happeneing when not being observed, i shouldnt have to say that the ncr strength and campaign in the mojave is referring to shady sands getting nuked, ncr at the time was in a bad spot, losing a large population center is really harmful, especially since the brotherhood war kneecapped them, making it not worth it to pursue the matter, ncr was content to leave them alone, because the ncr was tired of war, from the mojave campaign, so it doesnt make any sense for them to go to war again with the brotherhood, who, again, stole their currency and make it very difficult to engage them; or kimball gets assainated and theyre going continue to waste troops and resources on the mojave, which would cause to bleed even more. then nuking shady sands, a large population center, really messes with their ability to control the area and supply it. and again, the cool things about flying machines is they can fly, so you can go around things, theyre not limited by terrain, like the legion is, which is why legion wanted hoover dam
The fallout show feels like a flawed gem to me personally; all my gripes with the show are not the same mauler's though I dont disagree with him either. Idk I thought the show was a pretty solid 7.5 out of 10 with a potential to be a lot better or go right down the trash can for season 2
And really, the fallout GAMES have never really held together as a cohesive whole either. People don't plat fallout for the main plot, they play it for getting distracted by all bullshit along the way. The little bullshit encounters the crew struggled through? Those were mostly pretty good, it's on par with anything Bethesda's done.
Just want to say, Mauler called out The Mandolorian as a not great show, particularly the Luke Skywalker scene, and got a lot of hate for it. Only to get vindicated when it all fell apart.
The intensity of the harvest was peak fiction. Don't even get me started on Belisarius' accent when they Ceasar'd the clueless emperor. Oh and the dialog made my toes curl. Def a 10/10
Netflix should’ve fired the show Runner after that god awful pathetic spin off show nobody watched. They should’ve known better after that. Witcher looked good in season one and then slowly started to look like every modern day fantasy western bullshit. Where everything and everyone looks like a diverse Starbucks in downtown LA.
@@Langley_Ackerman19 They always do. They start out normal and then get pressure from their peers and woke heads around them to add more and more leftist ideologies, female empowerment, identity politics and rainbow coalition. Trust me, I know.
Fallout season 1 was Great! We've recommended it to everyone and everyone so far has loved it. I don't understand the hate. I've played most of the Fallout Games and I felt like this was another great story and adds to the Lore!
After Blackrock and Vanguard spot another beloved fictional entertainment they get to work and shine their lense of DEI over it and get another “Fix-tion”
Odin starts the show by saying he's actually watched the stuff and is looking forward to discussing them...then proceeds to say NOTHING. Then you have Az and Jeremy who refuse to watch the stuff they're meant to be discussing AGAIN. Also, wasn't that Danika(?) girl supposed to be on this week? I was actually looking forward to a guest that isn't on all the time but we got the tiresome MauLer again. Sweet Baby Incs biggest fan.
The writers for SG1 kept continuity through 10 seasons, 200+ episodes. Today, writers can't even keep continuity through 8 episodes!!!?
I wonder what's going to happen first: Gary watching SG1 or JRRM finishing Winds of Winter
Indeed.
Wow yeah it makes you think
Mostly.
The Zat 3 shots doing different things was memory-holed quickly.
honestly, in THIS show.. sometimes they break own narrative within a few minutes.
Xray Girl's camera was being handled by Zack Snyder.
You know what the Fallout show feels like to me? The Witcher show from Netflix.
Witcher Season 1 while highly praised was incredibly flawed and what kept it going was a good actor and the potential for greatness. But there were BIG red flags that couldn’t really be ignored notably in the showrunners and diversity hires. And it all fell apart in Season 2 due to the exact same problems.
I think why so many people are giving Fallout a (unjustified) pass is because we expected a catastrophic show and instead got a surprisingly watchable one. And “fans” are trying to cope with battered-housewife syndrome.
And if fallout is having a season 2, I bet is going to happen the same thing.
I really didn't like the Witcher season 1. Also could not understand the hype for Mandalorian season 1 I thought it sucked.
Kinda liked Fallout though.
The old bait and switch. From DEI being sprinkled in to crowbarred into everything season 2
Just heard season 5 of Witcher will be the last . Same battered wife syndrom.
@@rekzvs8547 I can explain both of those.
The Witcher there was an understanding that they were going in the direction of the books which got a popularity boost from the games and most fans of the games (myself included) were okay with that.
Mandolorian came out after The Last Jedi and it wasn't that. And if I need to explain that to you, do you got some homework to do.
Fallout is following a similar path to Mandolorian in that it's not on the same level of awful as something like Velma or She-Hulk. And I feel like people are getting duped by that fact alone.
As a nerdy girl, I don’t understand the need for “representation.” I’ve loved sci-fi and fantasy since I was a toddler. I loved watching Xena and thought she was cool and all, but my fictional role model at that age was Picard. My favorite X-Men characters were Wolverine and Sabertooth.
As an adult, I can also see that there are lots of badass women like Ripley. Hell, sci-fi as a genre was invented by a woman. I care about cool shit, not the chromosomes of the characters doing it.
I will never understand representation these days. No one I like in cinema is like the geeky me
Of course warhammer would go woke right when i buy in.....
I have a hard time getting into things now mostly because I cant separete what it was from what it is a sort of "all roads lead to rome" mindset.
It was already going woke and fools kept saying "Nah it wont go woke" even as it went through the usual slow infiltration and little things here and there.
Blackrock rule Amazon Amazon rule games workshop game workshop rule warhammer. Blackrock want Amazon to raise their esg rating which is a social credit score for companies . Games workshop have to reluctantly toe the line.
Only in death does duty end
Enjoy what you can of it
I am convinced that blackrock is just a genius elaborate stock-shorting scheme, because literally the only thing the company is capable of is tanking the stock of anything that its invested in.
Sadly commonists are VERY patient.
They are forcing it so they can scoop everything up for a massive discount when those companies inevitably fail and go bust.
It could be that but i dont think its _just_ that. The scheme can serve multiple purposes at once.
That is part of it. They want the economy to crash. Makes it cheaper for them to buy everything. Part of the plan. The elite will own everything. "You will own nothing and be happy".
If it is, it's a stupidly expensive one. This DEI scheme has cost them 30 billion in losses and a lot of companies just rejecting deals made by them. But don't take my word for it, just look up Larry Fink in the latest earnings call.
You can tell this is a todd howard production, it just works.
Exactly 😂
There's even a song shitting on the dude that aged like fine wine, literally called "It Just Works."
Gary: "The showrunners are from Westworld."
You mean that show about robots that had everybody secretly be a robot the whole time because they ran out of plot twists? Those guys?
Yep, the same Showrunners that have 1 good season in them. Season 2-4 of Westworld was boring trash. Same will probably happen with Fallout. I also predict the done to death trope of interrace romance. I like the female lead, she's good, but I thought discount Jonathan Majors was rubbish. But no doubt they'll get together.
The main showrunner is Jonathan Nolan, the brother of Christopher Nolan, the guy who wrote Memento, Interstellar & the Dark Knight Trilogy.
He also made the excellent Person of Interest show, starring Jim Cavieziel.
@@doublep1980 most of it self-aggrandising wank! Including Tenet, the cherry on top of the mental-masturbation pile!
Ok, he has a few movies which are not bad, but in general he is massively overrated, just like Interstellar, Inception, Memento, etc. Haven't seen Dunkirk as yet (war movies ain't my jam) or Oppenheimer (glorifying war crimes against humanity ain't my jam either).
When Az mentioned the ghoul losing his humanity, I was thinking "this character reminds me of the man in black"
@@kiddarice I’ve been recently reading the dark tower books i’m very glad I got that reference
36:04 1/4B just summarized the entirety of modern entertainment zeitgeist - "If you don't think about anything - the show is great."
every single modern show falls apart the moment you start applying even a modicum of critical thinking. They don't even follow their own logic scene to scene for the most part.
Watched the first two episodes of Fallout and was completely uninterested in everything apart from Walton Goggins. Maximus' only character trait seems to be that he's constantly bullied for some reason. Why are they solely picking on Maximus (a young athletic guy who looks like he could put up a fight)? Why are they not picking on the other characters, like the trans man? Isn't it customary for bullies to go after the weakest of the bunch, not the strongest?
Cause it r3tarded and poorly written.
I quit after episode two. The only relevant plot point was "What is with the scientist ('s head)?". That's very basic, lazy writing. I focus on "Shogun", this show is lightyears ahead.
They do kind of explain it later on. It’s basically because of Thaddeus the skinny aspirant guy with pencil moustache.
I didn't care enough to continue after episode 1. Then again, I never played the game so maybe that makes a difference? Regardless, Drinker and anyone else who likes this show is a coping cuckold, nothing more.
This literally gets explained a few episodes later. Maximus is annoying af but so is whining about stuff that you'd know if you actually watched it...
Doomcock's video makes sense. Producers get cash bonuses for DEI objectives. That's why there are so many producers nowadays.
Realize that the dei money comes from your 401k. Until we divest they will never run out of money
AZ! It's called cold fusion because it is done at a lower temperature than the sun.
Not the most knowledgeable about hard science,our AZ. 😂
Still hot as f though, no??
Yeah they never showed it was icy or anything in the show idk what he was going on about. 🤷♂️
Tell that to jj abrams. His cold fusion device in one of the new trekk movies is like a frost nuke lol
@@zacharymcmillan2788 Or anyone working on Fallout for that matter.
To be fair Emil and Todd already had made Fallout a flanderized version of itself bordering on parody.
Doesn't excuse problems with the script of course. But helps to explain why the tone was so... reddit.
If you squint I could be convinced I was watching Borderlands instead.
Didn't though of that somehow it makes sense.
Right? The world of fallout has never *actually* fit together as a whole, it's that brilliant aesthetic choice of a wasteland full of nostalgia that's always captured audiences. Nobody has ever particularly liked the Fallout main plots, most people actually play the games for the "thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time." As far as that journey goes, the crazy random encounters the crew goes through? THOSE were all pretty good, so really I appreciate that it's a pretty accurate adaption of Fallout, warts and all.
@@travishill6733when you're talking about "the games" this only makes sense if you're referring to fallout 3 and 4.
I mean, granted that it amped up a lot with Bethesda. But let's not pretend that top down, isometric rpgs didn't benefit greatly from painting broad strokes and letting the imagination fill the rest in. Vault City had what, 15 buildings? The writing was certainly *better* but they were on a much smaller scale, and your nostalgia glasses are a little thick.
Fallout isn't meant to be a comedy. The dark humor is a side effect of the world.
Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai is the best film I've ever seen, its such an insult to say that masterpiece shares a microgram of content with Rebel Moon
The actor that plays maximus failed up in his career as well. He's been in literally nothing and then gets cast in a major ip tv show it's bizarre.
DEI hire
DEI hire
Has to be more than just that. He must have family in the business.
He’s so wooden. I had a genuine LOL moment in the last episode because he gets knocked out and his expression doesn’t change one iota.
It shows cuz he’s TERRIBLE. College students in Acting 101 are better
56:40 that is another retcon. The vault experiments were originally ordered by the Enclave(which Vault-Tec answered to) to test things before the Enclave left earth to colonize a new world after the war in a generation ship.
Yep, exactly this. There is nothing they will not muck up, as they just do not care about the lore in the slightest. Hack frauds.
A yes the lore that was never even in the games.
@@YikersGrossoutThat's not Interplays fault that Bethesda forgot about it
Its also inportant to remember they canceled that plan as they lost funding. Hence the mothballed rockets that would have featured in "Van Buren" but the most important aspect of this lore is that Vault Tec didn't start off *insane, that writing came later*
When the wife looks up at the shadowy figure in the balcony, couldn't that be the Enclave & they are giving her the OK to "suggest" the idea of vault experiments?
3:03:00 YES, Kirsche is awesome and is probably the best person Jeremy could have gotten to actually talk about BRIDGE and how much worse and more invasive it is looking to be compared to DEI.
Also helps that she is incredibly down to earth and funny as hell.
Bridge, DEI etc…. It’s all for the ESG rating which is an early version of social credit score for companies that they’ll implement for individuals eventually. Larry fink and his globalist agenda
Kirsche is great, seriously fun to watch - just beware the cursed knowledge she randomly gets into.
@@grandotaku2501yeah saw her on one on gundams recent live streams and she was awesome. Think she even has gundam blushing at sone points🤣🤣🤣
@@grandotaku2501 oh yea man, its funny.. She knows things my mid 40s a$$ never even heard about..
I think she’d be better off guesting on Open Bar or even Real BBC (the irony isn’t lost on me), since those shows allow each person to talk more often
I still wouldn’t complain if she wound up on FNT, though
I’m glad people are realising the flaws in the Fallout show.
As a Fallout fan it genuinely feels like it’s us against the world right now.
Normies ate that crap up. Same issue that happened to star wars and now its a dead franchise.
@@braddl9442 I would agree but then I remember Fallout 4 & 76 with woke-Bethesda (Mamfield too) So yeah series long dead! Elder Scrolls 6 is dead for "fans" as well.
@@JoelLeonhart As long as Emil Pagliarulo is lead writer for Bethesda, anything they put out will be uninspired and lackluster in writing. The man's said himself he's unwilling to learn from criticism or get better, he's literally just an unqualified stooge
I will still take it over the Halo show, the three lead characters are very likeable although they are aslo quite bizarre and inconsistent
This so much. Any reasonable criticism of the series results in Bethesda drones and casual tourists coming down on you with screams of rage. They don't care about what original Fallout stood for. They just want memberberries and perpetual repetition of same old vaults, BoS, Enclave, 50's, pre-war tech and so on. Bethesda fans are unironically one of the most loathsome fan groups out there, reveling in their ignorance and bad taste.
I liked Fallout
i did too, its still a 4/10 though
Can we get Gundam back again? The last video with him was through the roof of awesomeness.
The thing I'm most shocked about is how mauler treated Fallout vs TLOU tv show. Like with how hard he went against fallout, you'd think the same would be done for TLOU
The initial enthusiasm for a game to show adaptation that isn’t complete dogshit is wearing off.
Totally agree. It's like Mauler is on a campaign to convince every other content creator he knows how bad Fallout is. Why he never dismantled The Last Of Us in the same way is weird.
But he IS right about Fallout.
Haven't seen Fallout, but it sounds like it was at least tonally light which explains some of the forgiveness of plot holes. TLOU took itself dreadfully serious which made the wiring problems so much worse
You shouldn’t be shocked. He gave both the same treatment but Fallout is objectively worse so he has more negative things to say about it
I was drinking while watching Rebel Moon Part 2. It didn't help much. I've never been a depressive drunk, quite the opposite. But I was this time.
Zack’s tattoo placement tells you everything you need to know about his creative potential
It does? 😂😂😂
@@Ajax-wo3gt a child with a sheet of stickers. My biggest criticism of modern tattoos. Millennials really ruined the art form
@@colinwalker4824 Tattoos are and always have been cringe.
@@lurksnitchtongue8986 there’s some neat ones but rarely does a good concept meet the person with sufficient talent to make it happen
Vault 31 is the middle management ship from Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe 😊
Judge Dredd could never have the same problem as WH40K as he says "I AM THE LORE"
Can't hear anyone speak above Az's screeching. Like a toddler demanding attention.
SPAZZ spreading his clout
The entire Fallout show was "White man bad." From the raider Lucy marries in the beginning who tries to kill her, to the weak, pathetic, Michael Rapaport Brotherhood knight.
Where do people like you spring up from?
Should have known this being an Amazon production. Along with them choosing a female vault dweller for a demographic dominated by males 🤷♂️
That's why we have this mixed medley cast of children with poor writing and bad humor 🤦♂️
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Dude the gouls wife was black and the worst person don't be that guy
@@TheOnlyGreen We spawn in the mud pits of Isengard.
*A Boy And His Dog > Fallout tv series*
Based and correct
@@metalmugen
hell yeah! that is the most Fallout movie ever made
Holy shit thank you for doing tags. Drinker should take notes for his streams.
After watching all the Fall Out and it actually gets better, the last episode was brilliant! It made everything click together and I give it a 8/10 Goggins made the series way better. AZ needs to shop shouting!
AZ ...needs his own Fridays podcast. He can yell and listen to his own voice even more.😂
When Mauler came back at Az again with that Anthony hopkins exposition at 1:58 😂
24:23 *_FNT_* Panel on *_Rebel Moon_* and *_The Rise of Skywalker_* - WELL! *Paul Tassi* of *_Forbes_* wrote, quote,
"I believe that if you think [that *_The Rise of Skywalker_* is] worse than the prequels, you are either insane or lying.
"I also would go a step further and say that in the end, it’s probably the best of the new trilogy, though well behind the originals and _Rogue One_ ."
This was in his article called *_A List Of All JJ Abrams’ Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker ‘Corrections’ Of Past Movies_* (21 Dec 2019).
Paul still stands behind those words _today._
And that is why I still will not read his articles anymore.
Now, if Paul were to say, "I have retracted that article and publicly apologize for calling _real_ *fans* "insane or lying," _then_ I might reconsider.
I won't hold my breath for that apology, though... [EDIT: Immediate typo correction]
Fallout did have its flaws, but I liked it A LOT on first viewing less so on second. IVe played Fallout 3, New Vegas and Fallout 4 for hundreds and hundreds of hours. 1st viewing 9/10 for me. Second viewing 7,5 ish 8/10 tops. Still really like it though. I usually agree with FNT, their opinions on Fallout and Dungeons and Dragons though, not so much.
Mauler ripping Rebel Moon: Based, peak fire, Bro👌😎.
Mauler ripping Fallout: Nitpicker. Does he ever like anything? 🙄
Well his take on FO is crap like the rest of the Panel, especially Jeremy's and Shads.
I back him on that 100% 👌😎
MauLer: ZERO bad takes 👌😎
He likes the new God of Bore "games" so he's not known for his good tastes.
MauLer: Explains how the entire plot is broken and character motovations are messed up, nothing makes sense, everyoje is stupid, and how theres no payoffs or any good story telling
Fallout enjoyer : Just nit picks bro
How much does a continuity department cost a production? Personnel, documentation, script review, and editing. FOR RED FELT MARKERS to write those little notes on the script. I want to see the financial breakdown on something that tried (ballpark an example from the 90s or early 2000s) and then I want to see how much is clearly being saved today. You have 8 episodes. Not 24. 8 episodes to line up.
I want to see the savings.
Yep same crap with Hazbin Hotel, only 8, 20 minute episodes....... for a show that needed at least 45 minutes per episode and maybe 20 episodes to really dig deeper into the characters. As of right now half the "development" of the characters is off screen and you have to just assume things happened between episodes.
What is worse is that it was one thing to reference other things in a show, but like B5 or SG-1 you mention it and move on with the main story, or make a joke out of it or something.
But to rely on the viewer to fill in gaps or make up their own head canon is just dumb.
Honestly the savings either went into an execs bank account or the money got wasted on DEI hires.
I thought a large whiteboard and a few post-its would have been sufficient given the simplicity the show and its characters.
less episodes and bigger budgets is probably from money spent on consultants, sensitivity readers, intimacy co-ordinators, catering on a grander scale, extra breaks, assistants for the assistants and so on
I enjoyed Fallout from an entertainment perspective. Plot is a mess though. Also outside of Goggins the characters are pretty terrible.
He's just a great actor;Justified,The H8ful Eight,
this series,he just chews up every scene that he's in - total awesome sauce. 😊👍
I was surprised I enjoyed it, I liked the vibe and feel of it.. You do have to leave your brain at the door for the plot but the ghoul is totally Awsome and so worth watching just for him!!
How is the plot not relevant to the entertainment value?
@@Likexner sometimes something is shit, it's so shit it's enjoyable and Ghoul is written well, it's worth watching just for him!!
@@CrystalClairebeads Ill pass.
Jeremy is thinking of "Funny People", not "Reign over me"...That one is about Adam Sandler, playing a fireman with PTSD after 9/11. Don Cheadle is also in "Reign Over Me"
"Funny People" is where Adam Sandler plays a comedian suffering with cancer. Seth Rogan is also in "Funny People"
For a superior game series to fallout overall I have found the Metro and Stalker series which has better world building and actually takes its world seriously
Stalker is so dope, hope the new game actually comes out some day
@@jordanbolm8517 1st stalker was complete shit and it got amazing with mods like Anomaly, 2nd stalker is definitely would be same shit like just released Stalker 1 remake which is hilariously bad LOL, devs just milking microsoft for money and pandering to politics and wokeness
"... Amazon allows us to have 16 TIMES the D-E-I! It just works!
- Todd 'the Liar' Howard -
I was waiting Maximus to yell “RREEEEEYY!”
1:12:07 mauler im trying to help you comedy gold here
You think the jokes about Az interuppting others is going to sink in?
@@jasongodfrey4158because he thinks he is bigger than the show and has such a high opinion of himself. If it wasn't Gary hosting he would have been gone a long time ago. I really don't know how the others out up with the interruptions.. If you notice drinker and efap vary rarely have him on.
It's disgusting to think anyone is going to be fucking their xray girl plushie, mine will be safe in its jar
Lel
Just finished the Fallout show. As a long time Fallout fan I can say with confidence the show was trash. Walton Goggins was good though.
Apparently,from all of the reviews and comments,he's the ONLY good thing about the show. 😏
Todd Howard just want to erase Fallout 1, 2 and New vegas. Because those games had better stories.
Two things about Fallout: Each episode has 13-14 executive producers, producers and co-executive producers. Why? And why doesn’t Lucy’s father know truth about vaults 32 and 31 considering he was “read on” to the overall Vaultec plan?
What do you mean by doesn’t know the truth?
If you see a show has 14 producers, run.
Give your relative/frien/lover a producer credit in order to kickstart their career. Don't ask what these people were really doing on the show.
Production credits are now part of the negotiation process. I'm guessing that if you want a Producer credit you take less wages. Depends what you want more.
@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming or PR reasons: I don't think Steven Spielberg did any producer's work on the new Color Purple.
Lucy has Gollum Eyes, once you see it you can't unsee it.
She has give me the ring my precious eyes. 😂
It's not Gollum. It is the alien from Men in Black
First to suggest that all superchat money should go towards buying Chris Gore a Captain Pike chair.
And it MUST have the Beep!
I watched both rebel moon back to back, fell asleep during both of them...
Pro tip: Throw your battles into Arma first and see if they work, if your good guys gets merked in 4 minutes then come up with a better plan and try again until you have an epic battle that makes sense.
They had a perfect killzone, but instead of using it they ran out and started beating the enemies with their guns...
I have never seen someone use arma as a baseline for battles and man does it make sense for stuff with guns. Protip: use mods like ASRAI3 or other ai mods and maybe ACE for the added realism factor, the vanilla ai is pretty grody and can get bested quick.
@@zab6124 I feel like if they just ran a mission and tweaked it a bunch of times they could get a good grasp of how the battle should go in the movie, but instead we have people with axes rush firing lines and win...
Yeah it's honestly more entertaining to make a game out of finding all of the ways that the writers of movies & TV these days know nothing about guns, or about really basic strategic decisions whatsoever, in whatever it is they are writing.
I have another pro tip: watch something you actually like instead of something you know you will hate beforehand and waste your time.
that's the thing with the Fallout show, it's not bad but it's also not amazing, i.e., it's average at best yet game adaptations are almost always so bad that people end up overrating an okay show as "amazing", fueled by astroturfing by Amazon.
Yes, this is the sanest take on this show. They got some things right but it doesn't make the whole thing amazing. Plus the producers take that this show is canon? This screams the Witcher by S2.
@@Langley_Ackerman19 yup, similar thing I saw with One Piece live action, sooo many bad anime adaptations that an okay one was overrated as "amazing" when it really wasn't all that good as a tv shows judged as one.
Way higher than average, the fellowship likes to go against the grain sometimes
That's just a lie. It is in fact very bad. The only thing good about it are the performances and the references. It's plot is a total dumpster fire.
Friendly reminder that Amazon put out HAZBIN HOTEL as a weekly show and binge-dumped Fallout
There have always been female Custodes. I’m cool with it. My head canon will now be that they are the ones being sacrificed to keep the God Emperor alive!
Mauler rocks. That's all.
Imagine the overseer of a fallout show being the bad guy 🤡
The show is based on Bethesda's Fallout which took the classic lore and story and bastardized it and dumbed it down for a more casual audience...I guess. Bethesda is also famous for having terrible writing. Simply put, the show sucks if you love F1,F2, or New Vegas. It also sucks in general. But if you got low standards, like Bethesda writing, and like the dumb humor, I'm sure you'll like it. With that said, anybody that likes Maximus should never be allowed near a script or writers room.
Bethesda Softworks? Bethesda SLOPworks, more like.
I'm sure if you remove all the Slow-mo & Slow-mo/inception scenes, the runtime would be about 90mins.
Mauler is a fucking weapon!!!
I only watched 2 episodes of Fallout.
I fall out of the show.
Freacking idiotic
Yup 😂
Lol shows about you mate
I really loved the first half of the fallout show. The last half starts to kind of fall apart but overall I still really enjoyed it. Watching it just felt like playing fallout again and ive been going through the games again cause the show got me so hyped up for more fallout. Lucy and the ghoul pretty awesome and fun characters, maximus is so bad tho.
AZ needs to cool it a little bit.
Makes it too easy for certain people to dismiss him.
???? explain
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His fake yelling.
The pronoun rant videos could've been done without it.
Nahh, he's funny😂
@@lucascoval828 how do you know it is fake or it is a problem for the rest of the cast ?
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009
Because everything about Az is fake
Remember when the Soviets dropped a hydro bomb in the Cold War to demonstrate and the nuclear war didn't happen because bout sides knew it would end the world but the public still panicked and built their own nuclear shelter?
Despite it's flaws I really enjoyed the fallout show.
Edit: After listening to the panel point out every little story / plot flaw or dumb idea that made it's way into the script, I realized that you could point out a large number of the same / similar issues with they're beloved stuff like OG Star Wars, Dr Who, Marvel before an after it went to shit, LoTR, Star Trek, etc.
In case anyone asks, I like all of the above except Dr Who and the newer Marvel and Shit Clown Wars.
It's a bit different though as OG Star Wars trilogy was made years apart, whereas every episode of Fallout was made around the same time.
@@LokiTricksterG True, which does help to explain some of the plot inconsistencies between films but it doesn't justify the things like the crappy acting, or plot inconsistencies in a single flim. Or when something stupid makes it into the script like not shooting down the escape pod just because it didn't show life forms.
In all fairness, we can probably find flaws in everything that's ever been on screen if we think about it.
I was tempted to call your edit out as sophistry but instead I’m going to explore some of the issues you brought up. Your point, in a nutshell, is that everything has flaws; I would argue that the franchises that you mentioned had good things going for them that outweighs the bad. After seeing the battle of Hoff, in ESB, for the first time as a kid in the eighties, you’ll forgive the odd plot hole.
So, I’m curious, what did you enjoy about fallout that outweighed the flaws mentioned by the panel?
@@hendrixisgod777 I did say I'm a fan of the examples I rambled off, and I realize that the good offsets the bad in almost all media, that's why I tend to overlook most flaws unless they completely take me out of the world the creatives are try to show.
For the Fallout show, I could care less about the difference between Obsidian's games and Bethesda's so the lore issues didn't bother me.
I would say I enjoyed it as a kind of mindless entertainment thing. It's one of those things that you just turn your brain off and enjoy the over the top violence and camp. Kind of like watching a chessy 80's action movie.
I'm 44 so I missed seeing the OG Star Wars in the theaters. I think the first time I saw A New Hope was 1985ish.
@@hendrixisgod777 I guess a better way to say it might be that if you're only looking for the bad when consuming any form of entertainment, you're going to find the bad, and possibly miss or ignore anything good.
That's not to say we shouldn't point out the truly bad entertainment or give bad entertainment a pass.
I think for a lot of people, the fallout show might come off as better than it is due to almost everything else being crap lately. Like it's a mediocre show that stands out amongst turds.
"The whole thing with Vault-Tec is that each vault is an experiment, and I don't remember why they did that..."
The Enclave made them do that. That wasn't even Vault-Tec's idea. They also forget that Vault-Tec can't be the ultimate villains because they forgot they've been previously established to be underlings.
I love you guys! But, I really wish you had a guest on that knows the fallout lore back to front. Would have helped the conversation about the fallout series.
A more expert still can’t fix a broken script.
43:30 I thought the reveal was going to be that periodically a portion if the group is locked inside the other fault with no resources.
That way they starve to death and theres more food and water for whoevers left.
Is Xray Girl's hair blue, or is that some weird lighting thing going on?
Rebel Moon Part 1 and 2 is a masterclass in bad filmmaking. If you want to be a writer or director, you have to know what makes a film bad, not just what makes one good. That is the only positive thing I can say about this. It is so bad beyond belief and apparently a big hit for Netflix! Does that mean more of this sh1te is coming? I bet Snyder is working on it right now!
GW broke before the fans did! Boycott them
So I don't watch allot of TV shows but I liked fallout just for the fun. Totally won me over with the fallout winks and fun. And the big reveals weren't good. I think you guys are always wanting 10 of 10 7 of 10 happens with fun movies this never had a chance to be amazing cuz it's fallout
Fallout was decent
"Don't you get it??? It's not SUPPOSED to be good!"
Baffling take.
The part when he talks about the T45 power armor flaw, they want you to notice him loading in a bullet. I guess we're supposed to believe this bullet isn't the same as the ones he was firing earlier.
Yes. His bandolier has all different kinds of bullets. Those armor piercing ones are probably kept in his saddle bag not on him directly.
Still dumb that the failure the T45 armor design had, an armor created in a hurry to fight a particular battle, remain in the armor 2 generation later. Even dumber if you think that those weren´t old T60, but the new T60 the Brotherhood created and used, updated with the best tech they could mass produce.
Which is ridiculous and stupid. It's still plot armor because he just happens to have it when he's not fighting a major character
@@Eagl3xStrik3COPIUM. He doesn't have them when he fights Maxipad, he happens to have it when he fights no-names.
It's also absurd that they even have a weakness in their center mass. These are combat suits, the most tested part of the armor would be front and center.
My head cannon is that AZ has a red light in his studio and when lit he rages against the system and does his trademark tirade. I love them.
i really like Fallout
it was dope during a time of really bad shows.
Me too and I'm a game fan. Not that gives anyone a level of authority l.
fallout was fun and enjoyable, I usually agree with these guys media view but on this I don't. The show captures the vibe of the game. And acoring to rotten tomato ratting, the majoity of people like it. It's a good show.
I watched that transformers one trailer, immediately sent it to my friends with the message. "Why do they think kids are stupid now". I liked transformers. Not because of constant shitty humour, it was about the actual stories and character's. We had amazing shit like, king arthur and the knights of justice, tmnt, M.A.S.K, bravestar, x-men, spiderman. I dont remember any of these shows being constantly fucking ridiculous. Sometimes they had some pretty serious themes. That probably helped us grow and mature a bit. Doing this constantly infantile adhd type shite for kids is, i feel the worst thing you can do. Theyre all stuck to their phones and tablets as it is and these companies cant be bothered to even make something worthy of people paying money to go and see. I'd never take my kids to go and see this. Just watch the 1986 movie instead. At least that has feeling.
Mediocre is the new great. I enjoyed Fallout for the most part. Maximas is annoying af. I thought it was how the character was suppose to be.. then I saw an interview with him. Yeah. Not a fan.
Of course. The thing character in ep1 and ep8 irritated tf outta me. Wanted to Avada Kedavra it just like Sirona in Hogwarts Legacy.
Didn’t see the interview.. but I had the same feelings at first. Granted his writing got worse throughout the show. He’s just a terrible actor in this. Like man it was annoying haha.
I am a fan of the games. Since 1998 (FO1 and FO2). I loved the show. The gags, the humour, the gore, the grey morality of Fallout. It was great.
You could easily pick apart Mauler's beloved Buffy if you wanted to.
Are you actually THAT upset that a shit show isn't just being blindly praised.
Bro, are you a normie that just wandered in here?
Yeah you can, you can with anything, doesn't invalidate crapping on the crap out of hollywood these days.
It is weird how back then the problems may be noticeable but at least it wasnt on purpose and Joss didn't call people nazis for saying anything bad about the show.
You are right. Very 'objective'
You could pick apart anything Mauler likes, because he is biased when it comes to things he likes. The guy some has good takes, but he is overrated.
Mauler has said dozens of times that there's a lot of goofy shit in Buffy, going so far as to rate the seasons individually and not recommend certain ones if you can't get past the bad parts. And he has been open for years about not being "objective" about many of his takes. You can just say you're big mad that he criticized something you like, ya know?
AZ "jokes" are so sad...
Hell say something and is quiet.
Part 2 was actually worse than Part 1, there were some good things but just handled so badly. I left my brain out of it for PT 1 and it was fine but PT 2 even doing that didn't help, it was dumb, so much time-wasting, terrible character development. Even the battle just got boring, it was the same things over and over, that hand axe guy, how he didn't get hit by any of that weapon fire. Made the 'A Team' look like 'Saving Private Ryan'. .But yes still better than 'Rise Of Skywalker'
Well I already boycotted GamesWorkshop because their company was corrupt, their videogame studios behave just as badly, and its a bunch of overpriced bits of plastic and books that will be obsolete in a few months because of the physical-media-equivalent of "post launch patches" (and to nobody's surprise, the "new" army codex to come out is always overpowered as heck and then gets nerfed later on.)
In terms of settings, I always preferred Battletech tabletop anyways (although fascies have also su*cided their own company on that one too ( "Remember, No Capellans" ) ) - but even though their pricing isn't as egregious as GW I still found it too much of an 'expensive' hobby to get into & usually just ran games with a close in-group of friends with the old paper card placeholder figurines that used to come in those starter game box sets.
is DDayCobra a professional at having a bad take?
He got his diploma from Down Syndrome University
altered carbon season 1 is still one of the best things Netflix put out in my opinion. So so good.
Yup.
Then they fucked up s2 and literally everyone lost interest
S1 was fantastic writing but i can't rewatch it because of how in your face all the nudity is. No, getting rid of the nudity is not why s2 is bad
I like the person Xray Girl has shown us...after her consideration of what too show us.
Jeremy’s description of Fallout, *IF* it was *REAL LIFE* :
Tell me Jeremy didn’t play the Fallout games without telling me he didn’t play the Fallout games.
Dude, some heinous things happened in those games, but they don’t show it. It’s all in the lore on computers and on written notes. Plus in the games, they have raiders, other factions, large and nasty animals out to destroy survivors, ghouls, other nasty settlements, factions fighting one another, etc. Also, read the lore behind some of the vaults in the game. They weren’t good
One vault in Fallout 4, maybe 3, I can’t remember which, was running human test experiments on their dwellers. So, just like in real life, it’s not all peachy in the Wasteland
Plus Lucy is packing. No random dude who is unarmed is going to try anything aka the dude in the house.
@@Eagl3xStrik3exactly. A lot of people in the wasteland are packing.
Love how Friday "Night" Tights always airs at like 1pm in the afternoon.
Gary goes to bed at 6pm
@@jonathangrey2183 Well he has to get plenty of rest, boomer gaming is very taxing on his old bones.
it's called Friday Early Afternoon Tights or FGT for short
It's even worse here. Like 5am.
@@goonsolo5938 I can never catch it live because it comes on so early.
The Fallout universe is so interesting Amazon didnt need to make this stupid nonsense.
The Pre-war period can essentially be summed up as "holding your breath to the apocalypse". Its not a matter of _if_ the nukes get launched, but when. The world was largely already tapped on its resource generation potential, and the world was quite literally running out of being able to produce enough food, water, and medicine for everyone. This can be seen in prewar holotapes of people starting to riot because the cost of food was rising faster than the people could potentially make money.
This is why Operation Anchorage is so important. If China doesn't establish a successful foothold in Alaska, they won't have enough resources to try again... ever. This is why China launched the nukes after the invasion failed.
There is a pretty convincing reason why -Vault-tec- the Enclave would consider laucnhing the nukes. It would be a depopulation agenda via nuclear fire. But this is still unneeded because there is already a built-in reason for why it was China and the US wasnt as prepared as it could have been.
About half of the Vaults were built for largely benefecent reasons. Save American lives so they can prosper in the future. It isnt until the Enclave takes control of Vault-tec where they decide to change and start operating experiments on the vaults population.
The intention is no longer on America inheriting the future, but the Enclave specifically.
The show takes place in the middle of downtown LA. In Fallout 1 this is prime Super Mutant territory and considering how out-in-the-open they are - they would have been discovered. As seen by Vault 17 and in the Super Mutant ending the Super Mutants are plenty capable of prying the vault sealing open and getting inside.
The show is over 160 years before it has a chance to happen - if we're being consistent with Fallout lore.
Then theres Fallout 2. Lets assume Vaults 31, 32, and 33 have advanced cyrotech. Each of these vaults have a couple hundred people in them and they are all directly affiliated with Vault-tec and tangentially connected to the Enclave. In Fallout 2, the Enclave emerges from their own vaults with advanced technology to conquer the wasteland. The presumption then has to be made that the Enclave in Fallout 2 simply chooses to reduce the likelihood of their own success and not increase their own forces by 600 prewar educated personnel to assist their war efforts. Which totally sounds like something post-apocalyptic, techno-fascists would do. And not use every means, resource, and tactic at their disposal to secure the future.
It even have a contrivance of having Mr House in Los Angles and Las Vegas simultaneously so he could have been at the meeting with Vault-tec launching the nukes(which doesnt happen in the lore) and also be in New Vegas using his anti-icmb laser deterrant to save Vegas from the nukes which he can tell you about.
Plus the shows defenders regularly get themselves caught up on the status of the strength of the NCR where the NCR is both present yet so weak as to not be influential. This makes nuking Shady Sands largely pointless. I regularly get conflicting information at the importance of Shady Sands where somehow its not so important to completely disrupt the NCR and have them mobilize their other forces, but also significant enough to stagger the NCR.
Plus if the NCR had much, if any strength at all, they would be using it against the Brotherhood of Steel
So the NCR are in a very contrived position where they are strong enough to warrant nuking but not strong enough to push back a single Prydwen/Brotherhood of Steel chapter. Which they were shown to be able to defeat in New Vegas.
So the shows NCR is as strong as it needs to be for the mindless person who may enjoy the show - to enjoy the show.
Plus for the Eastern Brotherhood of Steel to get to NCR territory they would end up flying over Boomer territory and New Vegas who has those aforementioned laser deterrants and the Brotherhood of Steel would be aandwiched between multiple hostile factions. They would be attritioned into annihilation especially as the Western part of the Fallout universe is significantly more organized than the Eastern forces.
The show could have been amazing and all they would have needed to do is stick with the lore of the setting. Instead they worked harder to produce worse results.
okay, lets address some things,
vault 31-32-33 and filled with pencil pushers, middle management, not pre war scientists, please tell me what use are pencil pushers in the post apocalypse, not to mention the enclaves plans was complete global saturation
house being in la is largely inconsequential, because he had already predicted nuclear war in 2065, 12 years prior, the ghouls daughter is about the same age before he took the vault gig and after, so that meeting wouldve happened after 2070s, so house already had plans for nuke deterrents
shady sands was a thriving community which is the problem for vault tech, the strength of ncr is irrelevant because at the time, they were on the campaign for the mojave, which is basically an iraq war allegory, too many lives and too much money as been spent on it, if kimball lives and gets control of hoover dam, he loses his career because it took that long and was solved in a week by one person and they go full reverse, if they capture and kimbal dies, he becomes a martyr and then the legion war continues, draining more ncr resources, basically lose-lose
the cool thing about flying is that you fly, you can just go around, and the western brotherhood is in worse shape because of the ncr war and are hiding in bunkers, especially since they dont really recruit outsiders, getting new troops, new technology and weapons from the east is a BIG boon for the west since they have mobility, ncr does not have vehicles, they walk everyone
the real lore problems are, what are all these enclaves doing here, whats a yao guai doing in the west coast outside of zion, ghoul serums, wheres the nightstalkers, cazadores, geckos, and mantis
The best comment I’ve read in a long time.
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"Vaults 31, 32, 33 are* filled with pencil pushers."
A body is a body. A pencil pusher from the vault can help with logistics and telemetry. Or simply trained to be spies and information collectors. This means you have more flexibility and get more usage from the trained killers. At worst they become meat-shields.
"House being in LA is largely inconsequential."
The issue is that it has him in two separate places at the same time because the show is more invested in skinsuiting as a Fallout property than actually understanding the lore.
"The NCR strength is irrelevant..."
No. As I mentioned in the original comment the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel are expressed enemies. The NCR's strength is vital for this dynamic to seem realistic - which is why it doesn't. Because the show creators don't know much of anything about the universe outside of calling back to some names for member-berries.
"...they were on campaign for the Mojave..."
Nope. Fallout New Vegas took place in 2181, this show takes place in 2196. This takes about a decade after the events of New Vegas, even giving the events a few years to occur. And as outlined by my comment this show seems to make the House/Yes Man endings canon. It would also be nonsensical for the NCR to hold Vegas and be surprised by the Prydwen. That you mention later.
@@annatardlordofderps9181 okay so you actually didnt understand anything that i said.
middle management is not good at logistics, their job is mostly busy work and meat shields are not that useful, especially since their job was to control civies, and the enclave had deathclaws
house is rich, he can afford to travel to other places, things take time to happen and you can do other things while said things are happening and will still be happeneing when not being observed, i shouldnt have to say that
the ncr strength and campaign in the mojave is referring to shady sands getting nuked, ncr at the time was in a bad spot, losing a large population center is really harmful, especially since the brotherhood war kneecapped them, making it not worth it to pursue the matter, ncr was content to leave them alone, because the ncr was tired of war, from the mojave campaign, so it doesnt make any sense for them to go to war again with the brotherhood, who, again, stole their currency and make it very difficult to engage them; or kimball gets assainated and theyre going continue to waste troops and resources on the mojave, which would cause to bleed even more. then nuking shady sands, a large population center, really messes with their ability to control the area and supply it.
and again, the cool things about flying machines is they can fly, so you can go around things, theyre not limited by terrain, like the legion is, which is why legion wanted hoover dam
That transformers trailer "we're a pair of worker bots that can't transform" JFC i almost deleted due to how hard my eyes rolled.
Todd Howard magic "It just works"
Why was Az so mad about cold fusion?
Well my original comment got deleted so I'll try again. Az is a fucking idiot thats why..
Why’s he always mad.
Probably hungry
Fallout has its problems, but I would take it over the Last Of Us tv show every time.
Same.
They've turned the Transformers into the annoying goofy humans from the live action movies and the "humour" is so fake and forced.
The fallout show feels like a flawed gem to me personally; all my gripes with the show are not the same mauler's though I dont disagree with him either. Idk I thought the show was a pretty solid 7.5 out of 10 with a potential to be a lot better or go right down the trash can for season 2
And really, the fallout GAMES have never really held together as a cohesive whole either. People don't plat fallout for the main plot, they play it for getting distracted by all bullshit along the way. The little bullshit encounters the crew struggled through? Those were mostly pretty good, it's on par with anything Bethesda's done.
Just want to say, Mauler called out The Mandolorian as a not great show, particularly the Luke Skywalker scene, and got a lot of hate for it.
Only to get vindicated when it all fell apart.
My feelings exactly.
The intensity of the harvest was peak fiction. Don't even get me started on Belisarius' accent when they Ceasar'd the clueless emperor. Oh and the dialog made my toes curl. Def a 10/10
Netflix should’ve fired the show Runner after that god awful pathetic spin off show nobody watched. They should’ve known better after that. Witcher looked good in season one and then slowly started to look like every modern day fantasy western bullshit. Where everything and everyone looks like a diverse Starbucks in downtown LA.
Fallout will follow suit. Mark my words.
@@Langley_Ackerman19 They always do. They start out normal and then get pressure from their peers and woke heads around them to add more and more leftist ideologies, female empowerment, identity politics and rainbow coalition. Trust me, I know.
Fallout season 1 was Great! We've recommended it to everyone and everyone so far has loved it. I don't understand the hate. I've played most of the Fallout Games and I felt like this was another great story and adds to the Lore!
Ryan's on fire today😂
Flamin' Hot Ryan. 😂😂😂
FNT should mystery science theater new movies at this point.
After Blackrock and Vanguard spot another beloved fictional entertainment they get to work and shine their lense of DEI over it and get another “Fix-tion”
Odin starts the show by saying he's actually watched the stuff and is looking forward to discussing them...then proceeds to say NOTHING. Then you have Az and Jeremy who refuse to watch the stuff they're meant to be discussing AGAIN. Also, wasn't that Danika(?) girl supposed to be on this week? I was actually looking forward to a guest that isn't on all the time but we got the tiresome MauLer again. Sweet Baby Incs biggest fan.
they got Mauler for the Fallout hate echo chamber
I hope Odin is just too polite to interrupt. Ryan doesn't really talk much these days either