Tomlin IS the problem. Just look at diontae Johnson effort. Just look at Antonio brown dressing room behaviour. Just look at anthemgate. Players have no respect for the coach for a long time now.
.....or maybe Antonio Brown was just a mentally damaged headcase, and maybe Diontae Johnson is just a pouty sulky child like so many other spoiled entitled people are these days? lol but sure, that's Tomlin's fault haha ok
So good to hear someone on TV that sees Thru the Tomlin talk. The D strategy is way out of touch too. But we are stuck in mediocre until we have better coaching strategy. He has survived on a HOF QB and many great defensive players not innovative coaching.
@@QuickHittinEm Mike Shannon's, Rams Coach, 49ers coach, Dolphins Coach, & Former Cardinals Coach. That's just one. Bill had Kevin WisenHut, Russ Grim, and Bruce Arians, two went to the Superbowl. Good coaches create coaches. Name one Coach Tomlin created.
I am no Patriots fan, but if they can bring Josh McDaniels back as OC, and draft one of the top 2 QB's, they can turn it around quickly. They do need to tweak the scouting. I think Belichick has earned the right to get one more shot.
@@78LedHead He had no chance. Mac Jones's rookie season doesn't count, because of easy schedule plus one-year wonder (opponents didn't have videos on the QB), the same happened to Matt Cassel.
I think I heard Julien Edelman say that Bill O’Brian and McDaniels offense is pretty much the exact same scheme. So that probably wouldn’t work. They really need to fix that offensive line. That was always a strength now it really sucks.
Tomlin needs to go. Colin is right, and I’ve said it for 2 years, the last real playoff team the Steelers beat was Baltimore way back in January 2011. Tomlin has never beaten a top 3 QB in the playoffs. He’s coached 6 years too long.
I think , Bill belicheck has only had two winning seasons in his career without Tom Brady. Tomlin won a super bowl with cowers team and big Ben. The fact that the Steelers didn't get another SB with all the talent they had for years is an indictment of Tomlin. It's time for change in the burgh.
If Joey Porter Sr. doesn’t act unprofessional and get in a players face we lose… but Steelers are used to losing to back up QB’s…could someone look up that stat …cuz we gotta be up there…that’s all we lost too in 2023 ..we’ll..other than rookies and 2nd year players…
Pittsburgh will not change. What you are seeing now is what you’re gonna get out of Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin is going nowhere and neither are the Steelers. Stuck in the mud and the tires are spinning. A damn shame
So how long before the team from the locker room up to the front office turns on Tomlin to the point Art Rooney has to do something? I know he’s stubborn to the values the team had in the past but the fact he was willing to fire Canada mid-season tells me that even he has a breaking point.
Tomlin is by far the most overrated coach in nfl history and we all know why If ur a steeler fan cant wait for him to somewhere else amd be 8-8 every year
Life long Patriots fan, and Belichick believer, but there is one undeniable and amazing fact that runs concurrently with his success. He had the greatest defensive player of all time on the way up when becoming the “defensive genius”. Then he had arguably the greatest offensive player of all time for the entirety of his success as “GOAT” head coach… Those are to amazing and fortunate anomalies.
They just had an easy offensive skeem that teams easily figured out, in the end of the season. And then, they couldn’t figure how to adjust. A lot of broadcasters had mentioned this problem half way thru the season. No ground game, just dink and dunk.
Fix your damn audio issues lmao. I don't even watch this official channel anymore because the copycat videos from random channels actually have good audio.
The criticism on Tomlin reminds me a lot of the same for George Seifert, who also never had a losing season but could never shake high expectations and followed a coaching legend.
After getting blown out by indy it's so clear that the team gave up. There's nothing else that Tomlin can do that's going to turn this thing around he's done what he's done and that's it. I've lost track of how many times Tomlins teams have underachievied and finished 8-8 or 9-8. They're seasons always go like this. Either they struggle out of the gate and lose and try to come back at the end or they lose out at the end of the year. What's even more sad is the offense hasn't changed, which means they accept that. I've been a steelers fan my whole life, like any fan I want to see them win. I do though; hope that this winning season stuff ends so we can get over it with Tomlin. He'll have nothing to hang his hat on after that, and they need to change. It's just time.
They have the highest paid defense. More than a handful of 1st round busts. Pickett included. Terrible drafting in the last 6 years. Worst O-line in the league plus terrible QB play is a recipe for disaster everytime. And last time I checked, our defense lost more playoff games than the offense. 90 yd play in OT vs Tebow. The Blake Bortles loss was a surprise shootout. Our defense couldn’t stop Blake Bortles lol. Ben scored every time The Jags did. Context matters
@@OceanicAirChelseatrue Andy Reid is doing really great this season with his offensive genius and a top 5 qb all time😂. So is Mcvay. I bet the dolphins offense looks just as good without tyreek hill too and by the way I’ll sell you a beachfront condo in Idaho if you’re interested
tom brady was there for all those 18 years. belichick has ruined a young QB and has made a joke of a roster ... he's clearly over his head and is getting exposed
Pretty sure Ben said the defensive side is coached well (TOMLIN) and that they needed someone on the offensive side to grab some face masks and explain the black and gold. So I don’t feel like he’s directly slighting tomlin….
It doesn’t matter. Colin has had it out for Tomlin for years now for sum reason. So anything ppl say about him or the team, he will twist it in a negative way
Today at this moment, nobody would take Belichick over McVay or Shanahan / and yes, McVay won a Superbowl more recently and Shanahan has won playoff games recently
Colin, Steelers put more than 40 points against the Jags when they loss to Bottles AND that game was Fournette all across! Big Ben put up points... The defense was awful!!! You YOURSELF accepted when you tipped your cap to BB7 in the Vikes vs Steelers and I quote you,: he had to overcome his organization...
Mike and Bill haven’t forgotten how to coach, they never learned how to play a game where the quarterback can’t get touched, receivers can’t get touched and everyone else can’t get hit except for running backs. Yes, we understand that “prayer safety” is the focus. But it’s not the same game and actually sports talk media proves it. Once, upon a time, you didn’t care about who talked about the game. The game itself was so captivating. Now, I haven’t watched the game in 10 years, but I get to see highlights and I get entertained by entertainment like that’s on FS one, ESPN And other places. We have a society becoming jaded over everything. And that’s the worst reaction for talkers who are trying to take a format that is trying to keep lifting on a pig.
The last great QB the Seahawks beat in the playoffs was Drew Brees I think, and that was a longggg time ago. We’ve beaten Matt Stafford in Detroit and Minnesota who missed a 20 yard field to win. You can make this argument about 85% of the league. If even 75% of the league thought like this then coaches wouldn’t have a chance. Every team would be the Jets firing coaches every 3 years. IF YOU DONT have a top 10-12 QB then it doesn’t matter how good your coach is, you’re a wild card team at best on average
These statements are made to be against Belichick but if he’s not the giants DC they don’t get those two Super Bowls in the 80’s-90’s. He is a defensive genius that got the most out of his players and while the last few seasons have been ugly his legacy is unmatched. I’m not a patriots fan. I’m from Denver.
The Steelers need to keep their head coach and they need to go hire Eric Bieniemy is there a new assistant head coach offensive coordinator. Their quarterback Pickens is good he can spin it look what Eric Bieniemy did with Sam Al this year in Washington. Now the Washington Redskins are moving on from him but Eric Bieniemy to check his ego and take a show on the road and go to Pittsburgh he may become the new quarterback whisperer. But with Coach Tomlin’s defense and EricEric Bieniemy run in the office well maybe these teams might come back again.
Your crazy. Tomlin is the issue and Pickett sucks balls they need to get rid of Tomlin, Pickett and harries. Tomlin has always sucked as a head coach for the Steelers.
Look at last year’s SuperBowl…both teams up and down the field scoring and the only difference was Hurts dropped the ball…and it bounced in KC’s hand for a walk in TD… Defense played zero part… defense wins championships is an old way of thinking.
Maybe he wasn't referring to Tomlin but the assistants. Tomlin had to call a timeout because of something stupid the players did which could be blamed on their position coach.
Ben caught some flack over his opinion, but anyone who thinks watching millionaire players pout and not even pretend like they want to play football is a "winning culture" is dead wrong. There is an attitude problem on the Steelers and that is indeed, a "culture" problem.
Was a fan of Tomlin for the first few years but his shelf life has expired. Mediocre is the worst thing.Draft in the middle, finish in the middle.... Rinse and Repeat.
Also, Colin if they had a invested in an offense line before you’re all pro players left, things would’ve been different that’s what people are not talking about your defense and offense line are not where they should be. Which affects everything else around them
This dude has no clue. Kansas City and San Francisco had the best defenses in the NFL and they both played in the Superbowl. Kansas Cities defense carried them throughout the whole season
Colin and the rest of the analysts are afraid to tell the truth, "it was all Brady." BB's system never worked. Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel didn't work out either 20 years ago. BB didn't work in Cleveland and the Pats prior to Brady. More and more people are waking up to the reality that it had always been Brady.
That's nonsense. At least 3-4 of Brady's Super Bowl's came from BB's system defense. Quit trying to rewrite history. They both contributed to those Super Bowl's.
It was the combination. They both had the mentality of win at all costs. Cheating is definitely on the table. The league will bury the evidence to keep their integrity.
@@michaelwallace2487Brady carried the franchise from July to February and you want to say oh Belichick and the defense had a couple nice Super Bowls they don’t even make the playoffs without Brady the Patriots defense has been great last 4 seasons look what it got them
@@davis2k1234 Revisionist history. Brady’s joining a stacked team and winning a Super Bowl in Tampa, and Belichick’s decade-long, chronic inability to effectively draft and change, offensively, with the times, have opened the door to people believing NE’s success, was all or mostly Brady. That’s poo-poo. It was obviously a combination of factors from both. The recent Super Bowl win against the Rams was CLEARLY Belichick’s defense and Brady’s miraculous comeback against Atlanta could not have happened had Belichick’s defense not held Atlanta from scoring in the second half of the game. Oh, and, what about that Super Bowl where Russell Wilson threw that red zone interception? Pure defense. No interception. No Super Bowl win for Brady or Belichick. And, I’m not even going to focus on the first two Super Bowl’s New England won that were so obviously not due to Brady, but CLEAR BEYOND CLEARLY ABOUT DEFENSE. Sorry. You’re attempt toward intellectualizing the truth from history won’t work, but good luck with that.
Well sean Payton got clapped 42-17... with a hall of fame QB... this is the second time this year something like this happened. They should fire him too, right?
The Steelers can’t draft a quarterback because they never have a bad season that puts them at the top of the draft. They never have a bad season because Tomlin never allows them to have a bad season. If the Steelers are even remotely considering firing Tomlin, they should get on with it, because in that case Tomlin shouldn’t want to be there anymore anyway.
Look at the league's best passers, outside of Burrow they not drafting in the top five. Mahomes was 10th. Dak was 135th. Josh Allen was 7th. Jalen Hurt was 53rd. Brock Prudy was 262. Herbet was 6th. A lot of the best quarterbacks were drafted in really good positions and develop. Plenty of quarterbacks fail despite being highly drafted. You don't need the first overall or second overall to get a franchise QB. After five years and not developing a real starter Tolim job better be getting hot.
I think the Steelers need to trade up in the 2024 draft and get a OT I know they went OT in Round 1 last year but they need to again Get someone like OT Olu Fashanu, Penn State in the Top 10 Kenny Pickett will thank you later
Colin take away then do you think with what you know would Tomlin have a good record. That’s what I want to answer because when you have the quality of players Ian inherited, especially at the quarterback that hides a lot of deficiencies.
I agree that Tomlin is not a bad coach,,,He's horrible! You can blame the qb...guess who recruited our 'franchise' qb who just hasnt proven himself to be very good and who gets injured a lot. Guess who hired Matt Canada. ..and etc. It took some while to get his fingerprints all over this team and once he did, this is where we are. It's sad to watch as a Yinzer. He's nothing but swagger with no substance and meaningless word salads. He should have been gone years ago. I think he will next be in a broadcast booth somewhere if he even realizes he is a bad coach..let's stick him in Carolina and see how well he does.
@@Bruins-vq5ey It’s about context. Most artist, coaches, engineers, or people of any field of endeavor, are products of their time. Off the top of my head, I can think of only two creators who maintain creativity in their old age and adapted: Duke Ellington, and Pablo Picasso. I can’t think of many coaches at all. So, Bill is no different than the majority who did not evolve. Not gonna hold that against him. To say he’s a bad coach is too dramatic for my taste. Actually, it’s drafting, not coaching he’s been bad at the past several years.
The reality is doesn't have to do with Tomlin being a defensive minded coach ir is more the fact is everything has an expiration date and Tomlim has been past his expiration date he has been with the Steelers fir over 17 reas and nor been realitive for over 10 years. It is just time for change for both sudes. Tomlin needs a nes challenge and the Steelers need a new voice and leader. The Steelers should lookto trading Tomlin after the season ends. It might take having Art step aside and let the children take over.
1) Kyle and the 49ers will find a way to lose. 2) Does Colin really believes he know what he's talking about. A waste of air space...really. Colin had that it factor in earlier years...not there anymore. 3) Rate the sports talk shows...probably FIRST THINGS FIRST #1. and the buttom of the list is the show with Joy Taylor and the boys. CANCEL THAT.
Amen. And just today ... maybe if Tomlin was worried more about coaching his team than wearing that uber-woke justice/equity shirt, his team might have had a chance!
Same with the Patriots, sometimes it is best for all sides to break and start afresh. People get set in their ways when they have been in same job for so long. Change makes both parties have to deal with change.
@@drinkingpoolwaterseriously everyone has a podcast nowadays who actually watches Big Ben podcast that was his whole point of saying this so he can get viewers.. He was terrible his last 5 years with a great team
This is a terrible take. And I’m a Browns fan. Go ahead and get rid of Tomlin and SEE what happens. If I was a Steelers fan, I’d be much more upset by this awful take. :-)
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Finally someone that finally admits with Belichick!! Just like Pop too... they're out of touch with these new guys. Nobody gets it. It's past X & O. Colin hit it head on... everyone keeps trying to save his legacy when it's already cemented.
Look Steelers suck but let’s not be needlessly dramatic about things. Alex smith wasn’t that bad of a quarterback. And you’re mentioning the Tim Tebow lost in 2011 like really?
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Tomlin IS the problem.
Just look at diontae Johnson effort.
Just look at Antonio brown dressing room behaviour.
Just look at anthemgate.
Players have no respect for the coach for a long time now.
.....or maybe Antonio Brown was just a mentally damaged headcase, and maybe Diontae Johnson is just a pouty sulky child like so many other spoiled entitled people are these days?
lol but sure, that's Tomlin's fault haha ok
So good to hear someone on TV that sees Thru the Tomlin talk. The D strategy is way out of touch too. But we are stuck in mediocre until we have better coaching strategy. He has survived on a HOF QB and many great defensive players not innovative coaching.
Did Colin just call Joe Flacco “Elite” 😳
super bowl mvp
Damn right!
He was in 2010!
@@Paxx35 Yes, and Colin referred to him as elite in 2010 when Ben played against him in the playoffs, not necessarily elite now.
in 2010 he was easily a top 10 QB
The fact that tomlin has no coaching tree is a huge indictment
Probably bc Steelers never get rid of their coaches/coordinators 😅
Tomlin has the smallest coaching staff in the NFL
Is this supposed to be a feat? Belichick has a coaching tree and all of his coaches are awful when they weren’t on the Patriots.
Who has a coaching tree, Belicheats coaches get hired and quickly get fired. Name the coaches with an extensive coaching tree?
@@QuickHittinEm Mike Shannon's, Rams Coach, 49ers coach, Dolphins Coach, & Former Cardinals Coach. That's just one. Bill had Kevin WisenHut, Russ Grim, and Bruce Arians, two went to the Superbowl. Good coaches create coaches. Name one Coach Tomlin created.
I am no Patriots fan, but if they can bring Josh McDaniels back as OC, and draft one of the top 2 QB's, they can turn it around quickly. They do need to tweak the scouting. I think Belichick has earned the right to get one more shot.
McDaniels 😂
@@user-hy1od6by1w he's a joke everywhere but there, as OC.
@@78LedHead He had no chance. Mac Jones's rookie season doesn't count, because of easy schedule plus one-year wonder (opponents didn't have videos on the QB), the same happened to Matt Cassel.
no way i'd let belichick ruin another young QB
I think I heard Julien Edelman say that Bill O’Brian and McDaniels offense is pretty much the exact same scheme. So that probably wouldn’t work. They really need to fix that offensive line. That was always a strength now it really sucks.
Tomlin needs to go. Colin is right, and I’ve said it for 2 years, the last real playoff team the Steelers beat was Baltimore way back in January 2011. Tomlin has never beaten a top 3 QB in the playoffs. He’s coached 6 years too long.
I think , Bill belicheck has only had two winning seasons in his career without Tom Brady. Tomlin won a super bowl with cowers team and big Ben. The fact that the Steelers didn't get another SB with all the talent they had for years is an indictment of Tomlin. It's time for change in the burgh.
The Steelers' playoff win over the AJ McCarron-led Bengals in 2016 was gift-wrapped by Vontaz Burfict, and to a lesser extent, Pacman Jones.
If Joey Porter Sr. doesn’t act unprofessional and get in a players face we lose… but Steelers are used to losing to back up QB’s…could someone look up that stat …cuz we gotta be up there…that’s all we lost too in 2023 ..we’ll..other than rookies and 2nd year players…
Pittsburgh will not change. What you are seeing now is what you’re gonna get out of Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin is going nowhere and neither are the Steelers. Stuck in the mud and the tires are spinning. A damn shame
They still haven't fixed the audio???????
I was thinking the same thing...
Colin: Big Ben has a podcast i mean who doesn’t, and he talks about stuff
Great take
Brett Farve was good with the Jets. The guy was 8-3 then got injured and played threw it because of his consecutive start record.
He steals from the poor
So how long before the team from the locker room up to the front office turns on Tomlin to the point Art Rooney has to do something? I know he’s stubborn to the values the team had in the past but the fact he was willing to fire Canada mid-season tells me that even he has a breaking point.
Don't believe the hype
Audio still terrible. Two full weeks now
Colin is your sound guy even listening to the finished product?
yeah it's been messed up for a week
Bad audio again…
Tomlin is by far the most overrated coach in nfl history and we all know why
If ur a steeler fan cant wait for him to somewhere else amd be 8-8 every year
When the last time he had a good qb?
Not!
I actually agree with cowherd. Wow.
Life long Patriots fan, and Belichick believer, but there is one undeniable and amazing fact that runs concurrently with his success.
He had the greatest defensive player of all time on the way up when becoming the “defensive genius”. Then he had arguably the greatest offensive player of all time for the entirety of his success as “GOAT” head coach…
Those are to amazing and fortunate anomalies.
Is the audio on this terrible for anyone else!?
I was thinking the same thing
Is it just my iPad or is Cowherd’s sound all jacked up lately? Sounds kinda distorted and has a weird echo.
Why he keep mentioning McVay, he has been the definition of mediocre over the last 2 years .
Well said
Don't forget that Steelers 12-4 season ended with a loss to a Baker Mayfield led Browns team.
they started 12-0 and totally fell apart
They just had an easy offensive skeem that teams easily figured out, in the end of the season. And then, they couldn’t figure how to adjust. A lot of broadcasters had mentioned this problem half way thru the season. No ground game, just dink and dunk.
Fix your damn audio issues lmao. I don't even watch this official channel anymore because the copycat videos from random channels actually have good audio.
The criticism on Tomlin reminds me a lot of the same for George Seifert, who also never had a losing season but could never shake high expectations and followed a coaching legend.
After getting blown out by indy it's so clear that the team gave up. There's nothing else that Tomlin can do that's going to turn this thing around he's done what he's done and that's it. I've lost track of how many times Tomlins teams have underachievied and finished 8-8 or 9-8. They're seasons always go like this. Either they struggle out of the gate and lose and try to come back at the end or they lose out at the end of the year. What's even more sad is the offense hasn't changed, which means they accept that. I've been a steelers fan my whole life, like any fan I want to see them win. I do though; hope that this winning season stuff ends so we can get over it with Tomlin. He'll have nothing to hang his hat on after that, and they need to change. It's just time.
It does not matter how good you are as a coach, if the team that you're coaching isn't very skilled, then that's a no-win situation for said coach
agree. too many times coaches are blamed but if the team aint got talent wtf do you expect!
Defensive Coaches have just seen their concrete ceiling
The team isn’t skilled BECAUSE tomlin is the coach. He’s gotta go
They have the highest paid defense. More than a handful of 1st round busts. Pickett included. Terrible drafting in the last 6 years. Worst O-line in the league plus terrible QB play is a recipe for disaster everytime. And last time I checked, our defense lost more playoff games than the offense. 90 yd play in OT vs Tebow. The Blake Bortles loss was a surprise shootout. Our defense couldn’t stop Blake Bortles lol. Ben scored every time The Jags did. Context matters
@@OceanicAirChelseatrue Andy Reid is doing really great this season with his offensive genius and a top 5 qb all time😂. So is Mcvay. I bet the dolphins offense looks just as good without tyreek hill too and by the way I’ll sell you a beachfront condo in Idaho if you’re interested
I mean sure just find another coach that won superbowls 18 years apart then make the "can't evolve" argument again
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tom brady was there for all those 18 years. belichick has ruined a young QB and has made a joke of a roster ... he's clearly over his head and is getting exposed
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@@joem5002is this Mac Jones burner account. Mac is a bum you can’t ruin a bum
Agreed:/ hopefully Pittsburgh figures it out
Colin spitting facts 💯
Death, taxes, and Colin saying Josh McDaniel and Mike McDaniels 😂
Pretty sure Ben said the defensive side is coached well (TOMLIN) and that they needed someone on the offensive side to grab some face masks and explain the black and gold. So I don’t feel like he’s directly slighting tomlin….
It doesn’t matter. Colin has had it out for Tomlin for years now for sum reason. So anything ppl say about him or the team, he will twist it in a negative way
@@SpliffkageIts because Colin hates n-words.
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@@Spliffkagewho isn’t
Tomlin is the issue once we get rid of him and pickup a QB and a running back then and only then will we have a chance to
What has Shannon won and didn't BB beat Mcvay
Love Collin on his flip flop takes
Today at this moment, nobody would take Belichick over McVay or Shanahan /
and yes, McVay won a Superbowl more recently and Shanahan has won playoff games recently
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Why does the audio sound like someone captured it with a cheap phone?
Tomlin and Belichick need to retire. Suggesting either one goes to Buffalo is just beyond stupid. Time for them to both go!!
Why do you always hate on Jordan with Wizards? He averaged over 20 a game in his late 30's. It should help his legacy if anything.
Colin, Steelers put more than 40 points against the Jags when they loss to Bottles AND that game was Fournette all across! Big Ben put up points... The defense was awful!!! You YOURSELF accepted when you tipped your cap to BB7 in the Vikes vs Steelers and I quote you,: he had to overcome his organization...
Mike and Bill haven’t forgotten how to coach, they never learned how to play a game where the quarterback can’t get touched, receivers can’t get touched and everyone else can’t get hit except for running backs.
Yes, we understand that “prayer safety” is the focus. But it’s not the same game and actually sports talk media proves it.
Once, upon a time, you didn’t care about who talked about the game. The game itself was so captivating. Now, I haven’t watched the game in 10 years, but I get to see highlights and I get entertained by entertainment like that’s on FS one, ESPN And other places.
We have a society becoming jaded over everything. And that’s the worst reaction for talkers who are trying to take a format that is trying to keep lifting on a pig.
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Big Ben should try criticizing himself just once
Then he wouldn’t be such a joke
The last great QB the Seahawks beat in the playoffs was Drew Brees I think, and that was a longggg time ago. We’ve beaten Matt Stafford in Detroit and Minnesota who missed a 20 yard field to win. You can make this argument about 85% of the league. If even 75% of the league thought like this then coaches wouldn’t have a chance. Every team would be the Jets firing coaches every 3 years. IF YOU DONT have a top 10-12 QB then it doesn’t matter how good your coach is, you’re a wild card team at best on average
"Landry was nicer" what a burn
These statements are made to be against Belichick but if he’s not the giants DC they don’t get those two Super Bowls in the 80’s-90’s. He is a defensive genius that got the most out of his players and while the last few seasons have been ugly his legacy is unmatched. I’m not a patriots fan. I’m from Denver.
You mean a defensive genius whose defense can't be trusted in 4th quarters?
thats great but you score points with OFFENSE which he is clueless about without tom brady. he ruined one young qb and their roster is a joke
The Steelers need to keep their head coach and they need to go hire Eric Bieniemy is there a new assistant head coach offensive coordinator. Their quarterback Pickens is good he can spin it look what Eric Bieniemy did with Sam Al this year in Washington. Now the Washington Redskins are moving on from him but Eric Bieniemy to check his ego and take a show on the road and go to Pittsburgh he may become the new quarterback whisperer. But with Coach Tomlin’s defense and EricEric Bieniemy run in the office well maybe these teams might come back again.
Your crazy. Tomlin is the issue and Pickett sucks balls they need to get rid of Tomlin, Pickett and harries. Tomlin has always sucked as a head coach for the Steelers.
Look at last year’s SuperBowl…both teams up and down the field scoring and the only difference was Hurts dropped the ball…and it bounced in KC’s hand for a walk in TD… Defense played zero part… defense wins championships is an old way of thinking.
The problem is that they have a below average QB with small hands
Tomlin is the problem but ppl afraid to b called racist
What are you smoking?
Maybe he wasn't referring to Tomlin but the assistants. Tomlin had to call a timeout because of something stupid the players did which could be blamed on their position coach.
3:05 not sure about how well we draft OL
We need a McDaniels type
Pickett isnt a guy imo
But he is top 5 in 4th quarter qb rating
When and how was he critical of Mike tomlin?
Ben caught some flack over his opinion, but anyone who thinks watching millionaire players pout and not even pretend like they want to play football is a "winning culture" is dead wrong. There is an attitude problem on the Steelers and that is indeed, a "culture" problem.
Coaches don’t win without a QB
Fr ask Bill
Was a fan of Tomlin for the first few years but his shelf life has expired. Mediocre is the worst thing.Draft in the middle, finish in the middle.... Rinse and Repeat.
Also, Colin if they had a invested in an offense line before you’re all pro players left, things would’ve been different that’s what people are not talking about your defense and offense line are not where they should be. Which affects everything else around them
This dude has no clue. Kansas City and San Francisco had the best defenses in the NFL and they both played in the Superbowl. Kansas Cities defense carried them throughout the whole season
Colin and the rest of the analysts are afraid to tell the truth, "it was all Brady." BB's system never worked. Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel didn't work out either 20 years ago. BB didn't work in Cleveland and the Pats prior to Brady. More and more people are waking up to the reality that it had always been Brady.
That's nonsense. At least 3-4 of Brady's Super Bowl's came from BB's system defense. Quit trying to rewrite history. They both contributed to those Super Bowl's.
It was the combination. They both had the mentality of win at all costs. Cheating is definitely on the table. The league will bury the evidence to keep their integrity.
@@michaelwallace2487maybe the ones when brady was a young kid. but for 90% of the time its been all brady. Belichick is 76-101 without tom
@@michaelwallace2487Brady carried the franchise from July to February and you want to say oh Belichick and the defense had a couple nice Super Bowls they don’t even make the playoffs without Brady the Patriots defense has been great last 4 seasons look what it got them
@@davis2k1234 Revisionist history. Brady’s joining a stacked team and winning a Super Bowl in Tampa, and Belichick’s decade-long, chronic inability to effectively draft and change, offensively, with the times, have opened the door to people believing NE’s success, was all or mostly Brady. That’s poo-poo. It was obviously a combination of factors from both. The recent Super Bowl win against the Rams was CLEARLY Belichick’s defense and Brady’s miraculous comeback against Atlanta could not have happened had Belichick’s defense not held Atlanta from scoring in the second half of the game. Oh, and, what about that Super Bowl where Russell Wilson threw that red zone interception? Pure defense. No interception. No Super Bowl win for Brady or Belichick. And, I’m not even going to focus on the first two Super Bowl’s New England won that were so obviously not due to Brady, but CLEAR BEYOND CLEARLY ABOUT DEFENSE. Sorry. You’re attempt toward intellectualizing the truth from history won’t work, but good luck with that.
Well sean Payton got clapped 42-17... with a hall of fame QB... this is the second time this year something like this happened. They should fire him too, right?
Audio is horrible
Offense just not going do it cause now you just relying on offense still got to have a nice defense
Big Ben's culture was never working out and huck it chuck it football
That’s a fact to
Worked like a charm for 15 years
@@RB-.- It didn't really though, tons of his teams had middling seasons and his career petered out in the last 5 years
4 years ago it was the patriot way now it doesn't work prisoners of the moment huh
its the brady way. no one respects belichick any more
I’m pretty sure it’s a reason but why is his audio like that
Why does it sound like he’s underwater ?
You just read his stats yet you think he’s a good coach.
Nice selective editing, that's not what Ben Said. Did you even watch it?!!!
The Steelers can’t draft a quarterback because they never have a bad season that puts them at the top of the draft. They never have a bad season because Tomlin never allows them to have a bad season. If the Steelers are even remotely considering firing Tomlin, they should get on with it, because in that case Tomlin shouldn’t want to be there anymore anyway.
Look at the league's best passers, outside of Burrow they not drafting in the top five. Mahomes was 10th. Dak was 135th. Josh Allen was 7th. Jalen Hurt was 53rd. Brock Prudy was 262. Herbet was 6th. A lot of the best quarterbacks were drafted in really good positions and develop. Plenty of quarterbacks fail despite being highly drafted. You don't need the first overall or second overall to get a franchise QB. After five years and not developing a real starter Tolim job better be getting hot.
Well said.
It's called trading up.
KC did it
Bills did it.
Pickett should have been a fourth round pick
I consider having a bad season not making the playoffs. Tomlin has done that plenty
Belichick has two sons as position coaches
the fact that Kraft even allowed that is comical
And drafting Zappe while already having a QB without help offense in shambles
I think the Steelers need to trade up in the 2024 draft and get a OT
I know they went OT in Round 1 last year but they need to again
Get someone like OT Olu Fashanu, Penn State in the Top 10
Kenny Pickett will thank you later
If they hadn’t bought into their own “Baby GOAT” hype they could’ve moved on from him a year or two ago.
Joe Flacco elite? Cmon Colin...
Steelers just need a QB except... they weren't winning when they had the best QB in the division...
Ben the best?
Colin take away then do you think with what you know would Tomlin have a good record. That’s what I want to answer because when you have the quality of players Ian inherited, especially at the quarterback that hides a lot of deficiencies.
I agree that Tomlin is not a bad coach,,,He's horrible! You can blame the qb...guess who recruited our 'franchise' qb who just hasnt proven himself to be very good and who gets injured a lot. Guess who hired Matt Canada. ..and etc. It took some while to get his fingerprints all over this team and once he did, this is where we are. It's sad to watch as a Yinzer. He's nothing but swagger with no substance and meaningless word salads. He should have been gone years ago. I think he will next be in a broadcast booth somewhere if he even realizes he is a bad coach..let's stick him in Carolina and see how well he does.
No. He's not. Just stuck in the past, like BB of New England. I agree with Colin.
If he's stuck in the last and won't accept change then that does make him a bad coach
@@Bruins-vq5ey It’s about context. Most artist, coaches, engineers, or people of any field of endeavor, are products of their time. Off the top of my head, I can think of only two creators who maintain creativity in their old age and adapted: Duke Ellington, and Pablo Picasso. I can’t think of many coaches at all. So, Bill is no different than the majority who did not evolve. Not gonna hold that against him. To say he’s a bad coach is too dramatic for my taste. Actually, it’s drafting, not coaching he’s been bad at the past several years.
The reality is doesn't have to do with Tomlin being a defensive minded coach ir is more the fact is everything has an expiration date and Tomlim has been past his expiration date he has been with the Steelers fir over 17 reas and nor been realitive for over 10 years. It is just time for change for both sudes. Tomlin needs a nes challenge and the Steelers need a new voice and leader. The Steelers should lookto trading Tomlin after the season ends. It might take having Art step aside and let the children take over.
Andy Reid is a new culture coach?
1) Kyle and the 49ers will find a way to lose. 2) Does Colin really believes he know what he's talking about. A waste of air space...really. Colin had that it factor in earlier years...not there anymore. 3) Rate the sports talk shows...probably FIRST THINGS FIRST #1. and the buttom of the list is the show with Joy Taylor and the boys. CANCEL THAT.
Man, have they tried hard to push Joy Taylor onto us!
Amen. And just today ... maybe if Tomlin was worried more about coaching his team than wearing that uber-woke justice/equity shirt, his team might have had a chance!
Same with the Patriots, sometimes it is best for all sides to break and start afresh. People get set in their ways when they have been in same job for so long. Change makes both parties have to deal with change.
What was the culture when Ben was raping women multiple times?
That never happened ?
he has a podcast now so please respect him lol. all these goofy player podcasts are so corny. starting with the kelce bros...
Was disproven a long time ago
@@RB-.- lies. It’s proven that the DA was his buddy and tainted and hid evidence for him
@@drinkingpoolwaterseriously everyone has a podcast nowadays who actually watches Big Ben podcast that was his whole point of saying this so he can get viewers.. He was terrible his last 5 years with a great team
Words spoken from someone who paid off grape charges….TWICE!! 🙄
Yup, his words are honorable. 😏
You can do better Colin…and yes, I’m a Steelers fan.
Big Bum never fails when the going gets tough to throw team and or teammates under the bus....This is for you my guy.🖕🏿
Its enough black coaches to move on from tomlin
This is a terrible take. And I’m a Browns fan. Go ahead and get rid of Tomlin and SEE what happens. If I was a Steelers fan, I’d be much more upset by this awful take. :-)
QBs are not teams
Pittsburgh Steelers? Look more like Aluminum or Scrap Iron. 😂
He looks a bit a tad bit of a master splinter in the face anyway happy holidays
Im a Steelers fan. Bellicheck builds super bowl teams. Tomlin lets them fall apart.
It was ALL Brady.
His quarterback is quarterback you gotta have the right quarterback 49ers haven’t won a Super Bowl yet
Can’t evolve but in the job 20 years…chatting shhhhii
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The Steelers need to draft a QB it'll change everything, if they pass on Penix there insane he mite fall to the steelers
A quarterback and a creative offensive coordinator.
Finally someone that finally admits with Belichick!! Just like Pop too... they're out of touch with these new guys. Nobody gets it. It's past X & O. Colin hit it head on... everyone keeps trying to save his legacy when it's already cemented.
Way to stab tomlin in the back ben!
Look Steelers suck but let’s not be needlessly dramatic about things. Alex smith wasn’t that bad of a quarterback. And you’re mentioning the Tim Tebow lost in 2011 like really?
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Expert in how to hold a franchise hostage and ruin their future!!
Cowherd always looks constipated
Bring in belichick for DC and Tomlin can finally focus on the offense 🤔💬