I find very interesting how you used the example of the sound we make when at the dentist to describe the medium tone, but in fact I'm virtually certain that's actually purely cultural and specific to the Thai language, and different languages will probably say "aaaaa" at the dentist with different tones depending on their language/culture: for example I can say that at least in English and in French (but it might generalize to many/all non-tonal languages, who knows), the natural tone for "aaaa" at the dentist really is quite different from the medium Thai tone: it's basically more like a first tone in Chinese (completely flat and all the way up, kinda like singing a single monotonous high-pitched note).
Hi, Thank you for your comment. Yes, I agree with you that the mid tone in Thai language is, in another word, monotone. How I explained in my video about the mid tone is just a teaching technique to help people understand how we pronounce the mid tone in Thai which I have demonstrated in my video in different ways as examples. Even in real life lessons, I have used different techniques for different students. I agree with you that different language/culture may say "aaaa" at the dentist with different tones but let's visualise the position and movement of the tongue when we open our mouth for the dentist to do check up. I believe that we tend to go with monotone "aaaaa" and I don't think that we will make a high tone pitch "aaaa" screaming at the dentist or make a falling tone pitch "aaaa" sighing like disappointing at the dentist or make a rising tone pitch "aaaa" questioning the dentist about something however we may make a low tone pitch "aaaa" trying to open our mouth as much as we can by pushing the route of the tongue down. I still believe that when we open our mouth for the dentist, we likely to have our tongue in its natural position though.
Thank you for this most detailed explanation of Thai tones. What I really appreciate is how you include the anatomy of the mouth to facilitate understanding of how the sounds are made. Also, what really helps is you create sentences from words that use the same tone. Wonderful!!!
Why do thais always seem like they're doing an ASMR video lol this makes me want to go for a thai massage. With that out of the way, thank you for this video! I like the way you teach, you seem like someone who is very patient. I learned a lot from this video!
Thank you for your comment. I hope you like my other videos also? If you want to learn more please register to learn my course on www.learnthaistyle.com
I swear my mom your lesson is really helpful to those people who are trying to learn Thai language. Because before Thai language it's mandatory to learn Thai tones also. Thank you so much please post some more examples.
dinesh chander after learning the theory, you need to keep practicing and train both ears and brain. I found out that using a tuner word is your own language to find a tone in Thai would help learner learn Thai tones more effectively.
Thank you for the effort you put into designing and presenting this lesson. I've learned to parrot well basic vocabulary and phrasing, but have consistently struggled to differentiate between words spoken singly (such as dog, come and horse.) Not noticing the qualities of the variations has been a stumbling block on progressing in vocabulary, and in the language as a whole. The difference between my Quiz scores before and after listening twice through this lesson was 15% (from 42% to 57%.) The second time I reviewed the individual results and will admit my listening has a long way to go. This lesson is a great encouragement into taking the course materials and selecting a teacher.
@@Learnthaistyle If you will make a video about Thai seafood vocabulary : could you, make, please two videos : one video about Thai seafood dishes and another video about types of fishes octopus, shrimps etc and who lives in the sea?
This video is completely wrong. The position of the tongue cannot explain the tones. The tones are produced with the vocal cords located in the throat. The vowels are produced according to the position of the tongue. It is underwhelming.
Dear @UCawaPGF9a0w50v5lvoJ0Rsw, Thank you for your constructive comment. I would like to explain that both the tones and the vowel sounds are produced with the vocal cords located in the throat. The vowel sounds are produced with the vocal cords incorporated with the position of the tongue and the shape of the mouth. To produce the tones, a vowel sound like /aː/ can be pronounced in different tones (note that we cannot produce the tones for the consonant sounds without incorporating a vowel sound(s)) and in fact we really don't need to move our tongue at all to produce different tones but by moving the muscle at the back of our tongue (in the throat) very very slightly we can make a difference which therefore I help learners to learn to produce different tones by picturing the movement of the tongue to help them to pronounce different tones. For example, some people cannot pronounce and/or differentiate between mid tone and low tone in Thai language so I explain to them that if they think that the sound is low and deep in the throat and just drop the back of their tongue down slightly, then they will hear the the differences. It's just my teaching technique which does seem to help.
I find very interesting how you used the example of the sound we make when at the dentist to describe the medium tone, but in fact I'm virtually certain that's actually purely cultural and specific to the Thai language, and different languages will probably say "aaaaa" at the dentist with different tones depending on their language/culture: for example I can say that at least in English and in French (but it might generalize to many/all non-tonal languages, who knows), the natural tone for "aaaa" at the dentist really is quite different from the medium Thai tone: it's basically more like a first tone in Chinese (completely flat and all the way up, kinda like singing a single monotonous high-pitched note).
Hi, Thank you for your comment. Yes, I agree with you that the mid tone in Thai language is, in another word, monotone. How I explained in my video about the mid tone is just a teaching technique to help people understand how we pronounce the mid tone in Thai which I have demonstrated in my video in different ways as examples. Even in real life lessons, I have used different techniques for different students. I agree with you that different language/culture may say "aaaa" at the dentist with different tones but let's visualise the position and movement of the tongue when we open our mouth for the dentist to do check up. I believe that we tend to go with monotone "aaaaa" and I don't think that we will make a high tone pitch "aaaa" screaming at the dentist or make a falling tone pitch "aaaa" sighing like disappointing at the dentist or make a rising tone pitch "aaaa" questioning the dentist about something however we may make a low tone pitch "aaaa" trying to open our mouth as much as we can by pushing the route of the tongue down. I still believe that when we open our mouth for the dentist, we likely to have our tongue in its natural position though.
Thank you for this most detailed explanation of Thai tones. What I really appreciate is how you include the anatomy of the mouth to facilitate understanding of how the sounds are made. Also, what really helps is you create sentences from words that use the same tone. Wonderful!!!
Why do thais always seem like they're doing an ASMR video lol this makes me want to go for a thai massage. With that out of the way, thank you for this video! I like the way you teach, you seem like someone who is very patient. I learned a lot from this video!
Thank you for your comment. I hope you like my other videos also? If you want to learn more please register to learn my course on www.learnthaistyle.com
Make, please, a video about how to pronounce each Thai vowel and consonant.
I swear my mom your lesson is really helpful to those people who are trying to learn Thai language. Because before Thai language it's mandatory to learn Thai tones also.
Thank you so much please post some more examples.
dinesh chander after learning the theory, you need to keep practicing and train both ears and brain. I found out that using a tuner word is your own language to find a tone in Thai would help learner learn Thai tones more effectively.
Thank you for the effort you put into designing and presenting this lesson.
I've learned to parrot well basic vocabulary and phrasing, but have consistently struggled to differentiate between words spoken singly (such as dog, come and horse.) Not noticing the qualities of the variations has been a stumbling block on progressing in vocabulary, and in the language as a whole.
The difference between my Quiz scores before and after listening twice through this lesson was 15% (from 42% to 57%.) The second time I reviewed the individual results and will admit my listening has a long way to go.
This lesson is a great encouragement into taking the course materials and selecting a teacher.
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I think this is the best lesson on tones that I have seen. Thank you! Now, I just have to practice... a lot.
Thank you for the lesson. It looks I could handle it =) Greetings from Russia.
Excellent summary of the different tones, presented beautifully. Well done, Jiab. Kun niisai dee maak.
Pete T Thank you Pete :) A lot of work went into making this video so I appreciate your comment very much! :)
It is very clear and useful even for a Thai like me. I speak Thai naturally and never notice this. ha ha ha
Great video! It's really helpful and it's the best video I've found :)
Can you make, please, a video about Thai seafood vocabulary?
Sure, I can help. I will make a video as requested when I have time :)
@@Learnthaistyle Thank you very much. I will be grateful to you.
@@Learnthaistyle If you will make a video about Thai seafood vocabulary : could you, make, please two videos : one video about Thai seafood dishes and another video about types of fishes octopus, shrimps etc and who lives in the sea?
You are very pretty, great job ;)
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This video is completely wrong.
The position of the tongue cannot explain the tones.
The tones are produced with the vocal cords located in the throat.
The vowels are produced according to the position of the tongue.
It is underwhelming.
Dear @UCawaPGF9a0w50v5lvoJ0Rsw, Thank you for your constructive comment. I would like to explain that both the tones and the vowel sounds are produced with the vocal cords located in the throat. The vowel sounds are produced with the vocal cords incorporated with the position of the tongue and the shape of the mouth. To produce the tones, a vowel sound like /aː/ can be pronounced in different tones (note that we cannot produce the tones for the consonant sounds without incorporating a vowel sound(s)) and in fact we really don't need to move our tongue at all to produce different tones but by moving the muscle at the back of our tongue (in the throat) very very slightly we can make a difference which therefore I help learners to learn to produce different tones by picturing the movement of the tongue to help them to pronounce different tones. For example, some people cannot pronounce and/or differentiate between mid tone and low tone in Thai language so I explain to them that if they think that the sound is low and deep in the throat and just drop the back of their tongue down slightly, then they will hear the the differences. It's just my teaching technique which does seem to help.