Toccata con Fuga BWV 565 Koopman - Schnitger organ

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  • @Nizlopi2
    @Nizlopi2 14 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is the most insanely good version of this piece I've ever heard.

    • @UlfilasNZ
      @UlfilasNZ ปีที่แล้ว

      This, Hurford and Preston.

  • @Returnto70
    @Returnto70 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My favourite interpreter of baroque music. Passion and respect. Simply sublime here.

  • @ВладимирОкоренко
    @ВладимирОкоренко ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Божественная музыка органа❤❤❤ ! ! !😀🙂😎😋

  • @Opistographus
    @Opistographus 13 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Truly amazing. Ton Koopman's keyboard mastery, together with his irreverent reading of the stylus phantasticus' mood, which only he can combine with utmost respect for Bach's music, makes this a stunning performance, absolutely breathtaking. Thank you for sharing it.

  • @aslanpedersen7467
    @aslanpedersen7467 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:56 is my favorite part of the song, it just has a Shakespearean vibe to it.

  • @zamarioijean4736
    @zamarioijean4736 ปีที่แล้ว

    J'apprécie beaucoup chez Tom Koopman cette interprétation insolite de la toccata, avec des ornements ...

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My deepest respect to both: to the organist and the constructir of that mighty pipe organ.i live in Magdeburg, and there is one Solbermann Organ that survived WW II. Jesus with us all

  • @luismanueldias8809
    @luismanueldias8809 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Toccata e Fuga BWV565, em Ré menor, de J. S. BACH, nas mãos de Ton Koopman é do outro mundo!!! Fantástica!!!

  • @passacaglia28
    @passacaglia28 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so fascinated at how no two organs sound alike. Sublime piece.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Indeed! It can truly be called a celestial pitch, and the modified meantone tuning works very well with it. Sometimes though, in the old days they used higher pitches just because it required less metal and thereby making construction of the organ less expensive.

  • @owenmccarthy0625
    @owenmccarthy0625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By far, my favorite interpretation of this piece!

  • @xiavalencia9939
    @xiavalencia9939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    la plus extraordinaire piece de musique jamais composee ; ca lui va tres bien a Koopman et a cet orgue

    • @lutzbanse9116
      @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The silver man organ here in Magdeburg remaining after the devastation in WWII can't even match the magnificence of that organ. But somehow we have telemann annuaries and refer to bach. .

  • @antoniopola542
    @antoniopola542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of fast trills, fantastic 🎶

  • @marcink.8220
    @marcink.8220 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful performance of this amazing work... With power and lightness - perfect.

  • @dezabaleta1
    @dezabaleta1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Una versión verdaderamente magistral.Sabe exprimir su sentimiento.
    Mark de Zabaleta

  • @fossaalta
    @fossaalta 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    suono splendido tra i piu belli per questa versione .

  • @voixdelabime
    @voixdelabime 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ton Koopman + Arp Schnitger organ, St. Jacobi = Dynamite! Arguably the most vivacious and muscled interpretation ever. Anyone knows at which age Ton played this? It certainly takes a strong young man to produce this amount of musical energy.

    • @mikefriks2599
      @mikefriks2599 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      voixdelabime Even older, he plays so fast and so energetic like this ^^

    • @GZ9090
      @GZ9090 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My guess would be mid to late 20s or early 30s.

  • @cnvelasco2
    @cnvelasco2 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maravillosa interpretacion

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Read the description, this organ is tuned differently. d minor as you know it today is not d minor as Bach or his contemporaries knew it.

  • @ZoeEGrace
    @ZoeEGrace 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stylus fantasticus - Tonus Fantasticus!

  • @j8577798yt
    @j8577798yt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The best and most unique of all other performances I've ever heard. Simply genius !!

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The pipe organ is a reminder of our ancestors. You are all invited to listen to. Does not matter who built this organ. Listen and enjoy .

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unimaginable . Astonishing. The organist and the constructor of that pipe organ and let stand Bach allone, he was German.

  • @Camofcalgary
    @Camofcalgary 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ending.
    Oh. My. GOD!

  • @Herr_strauss91
    @Herr_strauss91 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THIS IS WHY THE PIPE ORGAN IS THE KING OF ALL INSTRUMENTS!!! PERIOD!!! Even the best concert speakers can't reproduce the divine quality and magnificent sound this pipe organ makes.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @martin791017, Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. And for that reason I truly do appreciate it that there is disagreement among us when it comes to how we think of an individual artist. However some have poorer reasons for dislking him than others do.
    And no, Koopman would never insult Bach's artistic individuality by directly imitating him. in fact his playing only makes me wonder more and more what the real Bach actually sounded like, and that's why I enjoy him so much.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd just like to say that I'm utterly elated by your kick-ass rebuttal. When I read his comment I feared I might have to smash my head a few times into my desk. But you've save me from such a horrific fate. I believe I owe you one good Sir. ;-)

  • @arcobow97
    @arcobow97 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW That Organ's Temperament is very high! A495 is just of B natural!

  • @carlospg94
    @carlospg94 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is an authentic baroque performance!

  • @selfTaughtGirl
    @selfTaughtGirl 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crikey! Absolutely glorious.

  • @bigschnabel
    @bigschnabel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smoother than polished stainless steel

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Opistographus, Few can appreciate (and understand) it as you and I do. You are a true connoisseur Sir!

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magnificent

  • @sbbaums
    @sbbaums 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remarkable recording, utterly remarkable... From the opening to the resolution of the toccata, it was a though this were a new piece to me.
    Magnificent instrument, artist and temperament; how jaded have we have become by "modern" tempering and 440.0 Hz.
    (I also agree - Who needs the D? I don't know much about other early Bach manuscripts; could it possibly have originated (or common practice just immortalized) in Dr. Schweitzer's editions?)
    Thank you.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @latribe, It is also a very fine demonstration of what a 'good' temperament really can do for Bach. :-)

  • @unequally-tempered
    @unequally-tempered 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glorious! It's also worth hearing the recording of this at St Maximin on TH-cam. I love the flourishes of sheer panache in this!

  • @basilestockli1073
    @basilestockli1073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    La meilleure version actuelle!

    • @ernstvandijk6342
      @ernstvandijk6342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Qu'est-ce que tu penses de celle-ci? th-cam.com/video/D-PVpbvWzAs/w-d-xo.html

  • @boomvlogs8609
    @boomvlogs8609 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toccata and Fugue in D Minor BWV 565 - Ton Koopman

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @svalanlucifer, because modern editions are incorrect and include a "d" to resolve the passage. However, the earliest manuscript of the work (by Johannes Rinck) does not include this additional d. Koopman views this oldest known manuscript as more authentic, so he does not play that note.

  • @Permagrin187
    @Permagrin187 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Does anyone know of a better rendition of the Toccata and Fugue? I don't...

    • @nilsdresemann
      @nilsdresemann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/vjsfuC_sA7Y/w-d-xo.html

    • @nilsdresemann
      @nilsdresemann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Base..

  • @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY
    @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    super fantastic! ( Kirchenton : celestial pitch, yes ! Had to be higher than the Kammerton , 415, normally used in theaters and courts, secular... ;) passion , rage, love, all the great human feelings come out here , rethorically perfect ! ( may be with that acoustic, it is a bit risky to play the fugue so fast, you loose clarity in some passages, but on the other hand this fugue is not really a ' counterpoint treatise' ( Willams wrote it was even not written for organ ) so it works !!!

  • @abbiyoung8959
    @abbiyoung8959 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel like a vampire when I listen to this

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still find it hilarious that this person, Imhof44, actually thinks that Leonhardt's way of playing isn't boring and dreadful. Leonhardt even admitted his way of playing is wrong, but he also said that he had no intention of changing his ways.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While I'm still here, I would like to add on to your comment regarding Bach's intentions, it is possible to approximate this with a comprehensive study of books like Kirnberger's "Kunst des reinen satzes" which contains a tempo system that is very authoritative on what Bach himself used. There is also "Die volkommene kapell meister" by Mattheson and "Versuch über die wahre Art das Clavier zu spielen" by C.P.E Bach (among many others) which offers a very interesting read on the subject.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Nizlopi2, Isn't pure and utter madness just beautiful?

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @markb61, Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @svalanlucifer, yes. quite a few actually but I can't call them all to mind right now. I'll need to look for a copy of the ringck manuscript to list all the differences.

  • @SCALEANDRE
    @SCALEANDRE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of standard. Amazing that.

  • @markb61
    @markb61 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW!!!

  • @NicholasKuhne
    @NicholasKuhne 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea baby!

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @svalanlucifer, I actually like both ways of doing it. It took a while but eventually I got used to hearing it without the d.

  • @slayersteve67
    @slayersteve67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rollerball!!!

  • @LasSeptimasDimensiones2026
    @LasSeptimasDimensiones2026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:40

  • @danmeaton9559
    @danmeaton9559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As smooth into the Fugue as Barneveldt’s darts throw

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @theoburger3919
    @theoburger3919 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the meaning of a white wig?

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like if the organist invented that pipe organ. Goosebumps

  • @Hannibal953able
    @Hannibal953able 12 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    D minor is the saddest of keys. This piece was originally titled "Lick my love pump".
    I kid. Still a masterpiece!

  • @FlacidoDomingoo
    @FlacidoDomingoo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @FreieStadtElbing Richter? What Rcihter ? Karl Richter or sysmic Richter ??

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But of course, I do realize you were referring specifically to the matter concerning BWV 565's authenticity. So forgive me if my previous comment is out of context.

  • @richardblixt2582
    @richardblixt2582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He looks like a little bit of John Williams.

  • @henryinspace
    @henryinspace 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you even listen to the whole performance?

  • @veneziano54
    @veneziano54 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Je me suis souvent posé la même question

  • @luismanueldias8809
    @luismanueldias8809 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    O senhor Andrea Valentino tem absoluta razão - é de facto a mais loucamente bela versão da famosa Toccata e Fuga em Ré menor, BWV565, do magnífico, porque não excelso Johann Sebastian BACH!!!

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    forgive the typo: "saved".

  • @pineapplesandbass2442
    @pineapplesandbass2442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lit tho

  • @richardblixt2582
    @richardblixt2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He looks like John Williams at the picture.

  • @planelover8738
    @planelover8738 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CLARKS TRADING POST!!

  • @eltfell
    @eltfell 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @FlacidoDomingoo Sysmic, I think.

  • @SelvesteDovregubben
    @SelvesteDovregubben 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do mean the Schnitger scale, don't you?

  • @pautalux
    @pautalux 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BAxitorCH mah. Ci sono molti trilli, sì (prassi esecutiva) ma dov'è che "si perde"? la linea interpretativa è chiarissima, piena di fuoco ma limpida.

  • @veneziano54
    @veneziano54 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @martin791017 Je me suis souvent posé la même question

  • @lucasgabriellimasilva5740
    @lucasgabriellimasilva5740 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't that a bach song?

  • @died789
    @died789 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hors catégorie!

  • @1993joshualiu
    @1993joshualiu 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard this on Tom and Jerry Meet Sherlock Holmes.

  • @baxia7187
    @baxia7187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fuck thats nice, thanks

  • @ChundomanX
    @ChundomanX 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    es muy extraño el inicio y en lo personal no me gusta, me parece horrible, pero pasando un minuto me parece la mejor interrpetacion que en mi vida haya escuchado (y vaya que han sido muchas)

  • @nonsensicalhumanoid
    @nonsensicalhumanoid 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bod mas, you do realize you can reply to comments? You've cluttered your own comment section.

  • @SelvesteDovregubben
    @SelvesteDovregubben 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Firstly, this piece is attributed to Bach, but a number of its characteristics are quite unlikely for baroque organ pieces, and as such, its attribution to Bach has been contested by many scholars in recent decades. This makes your comment completely irrelevant and clearly shows how informed you really are about the piece.

  • @stearmankc
    @stearmankc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A wonderful performance of a piece I love to hate!
    Pros: Tempos, articulation, style, energy, ornaments, almost everything!
    Cons: Lack of variety in Registration. The organ sounds fantastic, but even the fantastic gets old without some variety.

    • @nitromaen
      @nitromaen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm... Could you elaborate on what you mean with the con? You piqued my interest :)

    • @stearmankc
      @stearmankc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear a full plenum registration from beginning to end (8 mins. +). I don't hear any manual changes and no registration change for the start of the fugue. I believe he does pull on the rest of everything at the end. It is a glorious sound indeed....but 8 minutes of the same glorious sound, in this piece, I find quite tiring, and it ceases to be so glorious. Would Bach have played it this way? Maybe....but I would not have liked him doing it any better. My ears crave some variety!

    • @nitromaen
      @nitromaen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah. I see. Thank you!

    • @achenpigeon
      @achenpigeon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting - I hear plenty of manual changes (e.g. at the start in 0:49, I think it's Hauptwerk ---> Ruckpositiv) and echo effects. But you're correct: it's organo pleno all the way, baby!
      You must like Walcha :)

  • @videotendryshme1933
    @videotendryshme1933 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    heard*

  • @shadowentity_0043
    @shadowentity_0043 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its not in D

    • @perrykufferath1146
      @perrykufferath1146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's in baroque temperament (a 465 hz) so yes, it is actually in d

    • @perrykufferath1146
      @perrykufferath1146 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The MIDI Bach Project Oh, I'm sorry about that!!!

  • @fooberdooge3103
    @fooberdooge3103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Koopman plays everything a tad too fast for my taste

  • @Bachwerkeverzeich548
    @Bachwerkeverzeich548 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...

  • @videotendryshme1933
    @videotendryshme1933 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i tjink i jerad this in dragon ball

  • @SelvesteDovregubben
    @SelvesteDovregubben 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Secondly, and I do not really wish to be furthering my rudeness towards you, but reading your comment was actually quite hilarious and frustrating at the same time. "Bach was 19 when he wrote this and he was having FUN", "You will then know what Bach intended"? I mean, come on! Regarding the first comment I cited, my question would be: How could you possibly know what the person responsible for writing this piece was feeling while writing it?

  • @lutzbanse9116
    @lutzbanse9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay. Way much transparency in sounds in comparison to a silbermann organ.

  • @SelvesteDovregubben
    @SelvesteDovregubben 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    In order to sum up: It is completely acceptable to have different views and preferences on things, and I think you've clearly demonstrated your viewpoint about this particular case. But to (poorly) disguise your argument as the intention of the composer, is revolting. It is an arrogant claim and one you should certainly not be so proud of having made. As has just been demonstrated, any poor argument can easily be destroyed and its proponents humiliated.

  • @MCDreng
    @MCDreng 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any reason that this is being played in the wrong key?

    • @owenmccarthy0625
      @owenmccarthy0625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s just a different temperament (A = 495 Hz, as opposed to the conventional temperament, which is A = 440 Hz), so technically, it is being played in the correct key.

  • @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY
    @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Leonhard has NEVER been ' the true master of the organ' . His organ technique was insufficient, his taste too ' correct' , his touching was good for harpsichord, not sure for these great north german or dutch incredible organs .

  • @SelvesteDovregubben
    @SelvesteDovregubben 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless you are some kind of modern-day Nostradamus, I find it quite unlikely that you've even got a clue. And even if that was the case, I would still be skeptical.
    Regarding the second comment I cited, much of the same arguments come to mind. I do not believe that the late Gustave Leonhardt, although being a remarkable organist, possessed any higher knowledge of the composer's intention with this piece than Ton Koopman does. How would he possibly have been able to acquire this knowledge?

  • @CrazyForCooCooPuffs
    @CrazyForCooCooPuffs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    plays it to fast

  • @orangejuiceman
    @orangejuiceman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't like the key it's in.

  • @brycecolson3410
    @brycecolson3410 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Listen to the fugue, and the music itself will prove you wrong.

  • @silvia57845
    @silvia57845 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do not like this interpretation of famous toccata ... like the Tocco does not play, it's an insult ... Bach is turning in his grave

    • @tjohnkoenig
      @tjohnkoenig 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're ridiculous, You can not like it, but Ton Koopman, along with Hans Fagius are among the great current organists ...

    • @EconaelGaming
      @EconaelGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. It's like Ton Koopman spit on the most recognizable melody in all organ works.

    • @JacobBite
      @JacobBite 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If either of you did a bit more research you'll find he's playing this in an accurate pitch for its time.

  • @andrealeon4226
    @andrealeon4226 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Bach.

  • @astore3757
    @astore3757 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bad recording... Is it possible in the XXI century to do a so bad recording? Microphone are too much far from the organ... Too much reverb. Koopman is always a surprise.

  • @orangejuiceman
    @orangejuiceman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy doesn't even play well.

    • @orangejuiceman
      @orangejuiceman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Smith That's great! That doesn't mean I mayn't dislike his performance. Go be butt-hurt elsewhere.

    • @CItMyself
      @CItMyself 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your first comment wasn't about your personal dislike of his interpretation, but about your statement that he plays poorly. Which is why the following reply was about his personal history to try to prove your statement wrong. Nobody says you shoudn't dislike him, but that reply wasn't about that and neither was that the point. You just added something nobody asked for and tried to justify your position, quite poorly i might add.

    • @CItMyself
      @CItMyself 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And by your logic that people should be butthurt somewhere else, you too should state your dislike somewhere else.