@@novax7514 Just remember how Naga were broken when they came out. They'll increase tier on Soulsplitter, reduce attack gain from Anub'Arak, increase avenge modifier for that abomb, etc...
@@novax7514 remove anub'arak, instantly murders undead. Cutting his bonus in half seems more reasonable but then the minion that summons eternal knights is still going to be nuts. I've won games with just those and the reborn giving undead.
@@danang5 My bet is just like naga they nerf multiple things before removing the trouble unit.. then don't revert the nerfs after removing the unit leaving it extremely weak without the perfect rolls for units.
Lets take poisonous from Murlocs. Its what made them broken before. Lets take shields upon shields from Mech. Its what powers them up. Lets take endless leapfrog+mass summons+mass reborn from Beast. Its broken like crazy. Elemental scales the shop trough buy-sell. Pirates scales the board trough buy-sell. Lets also add a mechanic that permanently improves the shop AND board at the SAME TIME. Now lets put this all together in 1 unit, we call it Undead. Cuz it cannot die anymore.
Yeah I feel like they should've kept in quests at least until another season with a weird new mechanic. It feels kinda boring to me not having quests to mix things up
@@TheZanzou agreed - it feels like quests were such a great gameplay multiplier. You had tribes x quests x hero as the main gameplay variables, now it's back down to tribes x hero.
This is the third match with undead I witnessed - and I am fairly surprised they did not nerf any cards after the demo matches. Guess we gotta wait another week or two until the new tribe is gutted to a reasonable powerlevel.
They won't nerf instantly cause there is hype , its often common in game to release broken stuff to get hype and better general information to determine the needs better.
As you saw in the video it's not very good against high attack low health reborn minions as it doesn't necessarily result in plus hits. If he'd figured out that selfless did infact has insane plus hit potential i think he could've won it early enough before the tess stole his board
Yeah, I was thinking it was a visual bug, but it's not. The 2/7 undead hit the smogger even though there were 2 other taunts on the board, so the smogger didn't have its taunt removed.
i just assumed it was because the spellcraft says "until end of turn" so even if it's "removed" it just applies it back or something since the turn isn't over
Sadly, it feels like the same thing as when nagas first got nerfed and moved that siren to 5. Manageable early on, but really needing to get those 5's and 6's to make it work.
The downside to Putricide is that you need to wait till higher tiers to use your power, and even then it can wiff. Still tends to be nutty, but it's not often highrolls.
I've watched like 3 games of this patch now and I'm already tired by this meta. Did they internally test this like at all? And if they did how can they think it's okay to release a tribe that makes every other tribe completely unplayable?
Just had my first game with the new patch and it was insane. New hero is broken.. I created a minion with reborn and get coin deathrattle. Then another one with give two skeletons to your hand deathrattle and reborn. Then a golden baron. So i got two golden skeletons after each turn and gold coins. Won with two golden deathwhispers that gave +2+6 each for every reborn minion. Was a fun game!
Yay the new patch has arrived using those 5 drops between hero power 30 on but not the renvenath a full valluy striched shot unit. Scalley on the reborn bacthey level can more higher enough Maxull 5,5 that could be -5 end game elimate. A Naomi trickters bearing a self taunt reborn undead top 4 screen shoot. 1 health it’s a tie POG Mero golden blaster poision blaster can you sell between each comp sea seal reborn 6 drop 4 damage at least zenron Uther reborn free shop on blaster on that mioion.
Well I've returned to battlegrounds about month ago. First thing that hit me was that you no longer can buy pass with gold (i don't care for opening packs so even if they made 10k for 1 season i would go for it) but after playing for a week i thought i like gameplay enough to buy for $$ even though in my country that's a lot of money. In shop i saw next season preorder so thinking it might not even a month, I'll wait till next season. One of biggest mistakes I've made in hs. I should have gone for it since they massacred any fun and balance in game, even 3 weeks of fun would be better than nothing and just uninstalling it. With all the previous tribes (except for quilboars and nagas since I wasn't playing nor have I been following game than) had their more or less unique road to victory, they countered some builds and were countered by others and most importantly it felt fun. Based on both my experiences and comments online, i don't think it is anymore
Noob player here, we started to play 'hardcore' with 3 friends 1 month ago. The friend who introduced us and we, just stopped playing. They broke the game.
And I'd seen a lot of people trying to say undead is going to be garbage late game.. Surprise surprise undead is op as hell. only thing I've lost to as undead so far was either undead or the one random leapfrogger build i fought against which apparently 3 extra triggers on deathrattle a turn for it is stupid good.
The skull thing copy other minions' death rattle and summons a hand when they die. This snowball into the skull copy other skull's death rattle and create double the amount of what the last skull's death rattle has.
I think APM pirates can oustcale if you use the firewall exploit, but there is no way anything else can.... maybe like omega highroll Denathrius Elementals?
APM Pirates can outscale anything. Literally infinite potential. Frogs also can beat them but frogs and Undead are the same comp Undead is just faster.
poison undead needs to be removed from the putricide pool. And then the meta will be alright. this wouldn't have gotten this insane if reliquery of souls wasnt poisoned Or just remove the fucking reliquery, the whole problem in the game arose with that thing
I was really looking forward to new content, but after watching these new undead videos, i really don't feel like playing. It just seems waaaay too powerful.
27:55 Summons four divine shield reborn w 48 attack and two eternal nights
Dog: “hmm… not bad” 😵💫
I don't even know how they nerf this
@@novax7514 Just remember how Naga were broken when they came out. They'll increase tier on Soulsplitter, reduce attack gain from Anub'Arak, increase avenge modifier for that abomb, etc...
@@novax7514 remove anub'arak, instantly murders undead. Cutting his bonus in half seems more reasonable but then the minion that summons eternal knights is still going to be nuts. I've won games with just those and the reborn giving undead.
@@TheZanzou my bet is just like how they nerf naga,they will remove that minion that give other undead reborn,maybe not the first nerf,but eventually
@@danang5 My bet is just like naga they nerf multiple things before removing the trouble unit.. then don't revert the nerfs after removing the unit leaving it extremely weak without the perfect rolls for units.
I cant believe Dog lost over 15k MMR, that is one seriously bad session.
He bet all his bones and lost
He went quils 😔😔😔
Lets take poisonous from Murlocs. Its what made them broken before.
Lets take shields upon shields from Mech. Its what powers them up.
Lets take endless leapfrog+mass summons+mass reborn from Beast. Its broken like crazy.
Elemental scales the shop trough buy-sell. Pirates scales the board trough buy-sell. Lets also add a mechanic that permanently improves the shop AND board at the SAME TIME.
Now lets put this all together in 1 unit, we call it Undead. Cuz it cannot die anymore.
It feels so weird not having the quests anymore.
Yeah I feel like they should've kept in quests at least until another season with a weird new mechanic. It feels kinda boring to me not having quests to mix things up
I keep mousing over my hero thinking if I should hold back minions for quest lol
@@TheZanzou agreed - it feels like quests were such a great gameplay multiplier. You had tribes x quests x hero as the main gameplay variables, now it's back down to tribes x hero.
BGs did not have quests for the most time. It will be fine.
Quests were unbalanced randomly distributed power. This meta isn't more fun but quests needed to go
This is the third match with undead I witnessed - and I am fairly surprised they did not nerf any cards after the demo matches.
Guess we gotta wait another week or two until the new tribe is gutted to a reasonable powerlevel.
I played two games and I already don't want to play this patch anymore, feels so much worse than quilboar/naga/elemental introductions
@@uking561 Feels pretty close to the naga tho.
They won't nerf instantly cause there is hype , its often common in game to release broken stuff to get hype and better general information to determine the needs better.
Nah anub arak already got nerfed +2atk instead of 3 earlier
@@meisalonowo9064 imho your not getting hype, just players fed up with the game (even highrollers do as shown in the vid)
How did putricide managed to lose with a poison blaster lol
might've DC'd
My guess is his opponent has more reborn minions than he was. kinda grief himself with poison blaster.
Reborns reborning reborns
As you saw in the video it's not very good against high attack low health reborn minions as it doesn't necessarily result in plus hits. If he'd figured out that selfless did infact has insane plus hit potential i think he could've won it early enough before the tess stole his board
Thanks for the spoiler
Loved Zenron's redemption arc
Zenron, we care if you're happy.
What happened?
At 8:10 the Straight Shot doesn't proc on the first target for some reason or am I missing something?
You're right, it didn't. I guess it doesn't remove spellcraft taunt.
@@HippopotamusPencilmaybe it removes the keyword not added ones
Yeah, I was thinking it was a visual bug, but it's not. The 2/7 undead hit the smogger even though there were 2 other taunts on the board, so the smogger didn't have its taunt removed.
Ya I assume because it was a not permanent taunt the way that Blizzards code names it is different than what the straight shot cancels
i just assumed it was because the spellcraft says "until end of turn" so even if it's "removed" it just applies it back or something since the turn isn't over
The new meta is fun to watch because it's new, but it definitely needs a shakeup or it will get stale.
I hope that you are happy Zenron.
I screamed when he rolled past the blaster 😢
Hahhaa Zenron is actually funny af. "Who cares if Zenron's happy" in the super low voice slayed me.
I wanna see deck tracker getting those numbers right lol
man he started at 15k and now he is 250, dog lost lots of games
that putrucide combo was disgusting
“I don’t care about balls right now”- dog
Goodnight EU ❤
Zenron those edits were amazing, keep up the awesome work!
Gotta keep thems Zenron's happy, man.
Well, guess I won’t be playing BGs for awhile
thanks dogdog and Zenron I appreciate you.
removing the quests basically i dont have the will to play bg's anymore :/
yea without quests bgs are shit again
Sadly, it feels like the same thing as when nagas first got nerfed and moved that siren to 5. Manageable early on, but really needing to get those 5's and 6's to make it work.
The downside to Putricide is that you need to wait till higher tiers to use your power, and even then it can wiff.
Still tends to be nutty, but it's not often highrolls.
Hahahahaha XDDD your clueless face is priceless, poggers
Great blaster clip :D
20:40 caused me physical pain
Funny how the end round has 6 of putricide's minions even though he died like 5 turns ago lol
Thanks for playing putricide, we'll be having those creations now.
I've watched like 3 games of this patch now and I'm already tired by this meta. Did they internally test this like at all? And if they did how can they think it's okay to release a tribe that makes every other tribe completely unplayable?
Is this your first time with a new tribe?
Yep, dog got 1st with felstomper and beasts. One time without undead the whole 7 hours stream.
Removing the anubarak seems like the only way they could possibly balance undead
At a minimum make it +1 attack and a 6 drop
Couldn't a perfect leapfrog build still wind against this?
Just had my first game with the new patch and it was insane.
New hero is broken..
I created a minion with reborn and get coin deathrattle.
Then another one with give two skeletons to your hand deathrattle and reborn.
Then a golden baron. So i got two golden skeletons after each turn and gold coins.
Won with two golden deathwhispers that gave +2+6 each for every reborn minion.
Was a fun game!
Day one and already wreaking havoc, good doggo
Why putricide creation didnt merged into gold one? There was 3 of them.
They can't ever be tripled, according to the patch notes. Not sure exactly why, but that's how they're designed.
Clip it! CLIP IT! 😂
Imagine throwing a macaw in there
Such a weird tribe. Very confusing and maybe way too strong
Yay the new patch has arrived using those 5 drops between hero power 30 on but not the renvenath a full valluy striched shot unit.
Scalley on the reborn bacthey level can more higher enough
Maxull 5,5 that could be -5 end game elimate.
A Naomi trickters bearing a self taunt reborn undead top 4 screen shoot.
1 health it’s a tie POG
Mero golden blaster poision blaster can you sell between each comp sea seal reborn 6 drop 4 damage at least zenron
Uther reborn free shop on blaster on that mioion.
Broken doesn't even come close to describe the undead
23:40 Maiev Heropower on the Chronormu might become pretty good.
would not trigger when selling
@@kanorinternationale892 aaaw so i guess you tried it?
Final fights legit looked like a cartoon fight in a dustcloud, what the fuck is this
Undead just have like absurd sinergies OMG
That was a fun video!
25:39 Why it doesn’t triple ?
The minion is from a Hero Power so there is no golden form
@@spikeybiscuit9251 thx !
And from this day on,Zenron stopped editing for Dog
Can someone link me a table with all minions putricide's HP can build?
really the only things that could maybe compete with this are leapfrogger and pirate scam, but that doesnt seem like a healthy meta haha
Pirate scam is not possible anymore, Chadgar is out.
Juggler could be interesting.
@@blunznseppale Oh ok, I didn't know that but i guess with all the new reborn stuff that makes sense.
@@nukem8128 true, but itll get outscaled after mid game so idk how reliably itll beat undead
there is no way pirate scam could touch this.
We did it. We ended poison meta.
Undead end game is way too complicated imo, maybe people will figure it out but it may be too many variables
Why would you keep micro mummy until the end? Just get literally any other reborn undead?
i wonder how chronormu work with that hero power
What heropower? Putricides?
It will just work like anything else - gain it's stats
@@lauritxbang457 the one in the vid,i forgot her name and the hero power lol
Hello EU and good night!😊
poison blaster is POG
We care if you are happy Zenron (btw if you ever read this... who is Victor? Dog always talks about him).
Twitch Streamer "SunBaconRelaxer" - he raided him at the end of stream today
@@xenon_gas Thank you! (I know SunBacon just didn't know his name was Victor).
Well I've returned to battlegrounds about month ago. First thing that hit me was that you no longer can buy pass with gold (i don't care for opening packs so even if they made 10k for 1 season i would go for it) but after playing for a week i thought i like gameplay enough to buy for $$ even though in my country that's a lot of money. In shop i saw next season preorder so thinking it might not even a month, I'll wait till next season.
One of biggest mistakes I've made in hs.
I should have gone for it since they massacred any fun and balance in game, even 3 weeks of fun would be better than nothing and just uninstalling it.
With all the previous tribes (except for quilboars and nagas since I wasn't playing nor have I been following game than) had their more or less unique road to victory, they countered some builds and were countered by others and most importantly it felt fun. Based on both my experiences and comments online, i don't think it is anymore
Noob player here, we started to play 'hardcore' with 3 friends 1 month ago. The friend who introduced us and we, just stopped playing. They broke the game.
That end was disgusting
At 8.10 taunt was not removed from the target. Anyone else see that?
yeah that elemental right? I saw that
That was a Spellcraft taunt, guess the card treats those differently from inherent ones. Who knows if intended though.
@@skydrake1833 Wow that's odd
I've been using Ghoul of the Feast, and it's awesome tempo card wtf
And I'd seen a lot of people trying to say undead is going to be garbage late game.. Surprise surprise undead is op as hell. only thing I've lost to as undead so far was either undead or the one random leapfrogger build i fought against which apparently 3 extra triggers on deathrattle a turn for it is stupid good.
@@MrDodgeNDive leapfrog is legitimately my most hated build, I want Whitemane or whatever her name was back 😂
why doesnt putricide triple?
this game is terrifying me rn
what the hell it's like beast leapfrog on undead steroids
God damn, and I thought release week nagas were bad.
He rolled past blaster
I care if Zenron is happy. :)
This is so broken its insane. Blizzard about to nuke the BGs.
That was some premium nonsense.
I miss quests, buddies and moonlight prices so much (
Hope they return some of this soon 🙏
What happened to quests
Rotated out with the new patch
removed from the game
Read the patch notes....
It’s basically a fish
Who is tess?
I've never been as confused as this few last fights just trying to understand what happend
The skull thing copy other minions' death rattle and summons a hand when they die. This snowball into the skull copy other skull's death rattle and create double the amount of what the last skull's death rattle has.
@@ohlookitisacat7404 I was exaggerating...
So we can only pay undead this season. Got it.
Def rolled past Blaster
This might be strongest(disgusting) board in battleground history.
Golden Leapfrogs should beat it pretty handily, if you manage to assemble it.
What the fuck is going in BGs :D I dont know i wanna play this anymore..
Gg's i dont know what happened but gg's
Guess I'm done playing battlegrounds for awhile.
Poor zenron 🥺
And I though my combo was naughty I got the guy that gives you 2 skeletons with reborn divine shield so I got 6 triples for free the following turns
They finally broke battlegrounds :)
I think APM pirates can oustcale if you use the firewall exploit, but there is no way anything else can.... maybe like omega highroll Denathrius Elementals?
yeah... no. No way you can out scale that lol
I’ve seen frogs and elementals take wins over undead. I imagine apm pirates would if u got literally everything
APM Pirates can outscale anything. Literally infinite potential.
Frogs also can beat them but frogs and Undead are the same comp Undead is just faster.
I'm worried that this might be detrimental to the game, everyone playing undead reborn and they naturally make the games really long
I still think my leapfrogs can take them 🙃
I don't understand how this hero is useful/good it seems so slow to lock a minion out for 3 turns
poison undead needs to be removed from the putricide pool. And then the meta will be alright. this wouldn't have gotten this insane if reliquery of souls wasnt poisoned
Or just remove the fucking reliquery, the whole problem in the game arose with that thing
Anub'arak btw.
Undead so broken dude
Why’s he always sighing
What in the fuck is even happening anymore
Call me a boomer but I already miss quests and the pool seems way too wild
Ok, looks like I’m taking a break from BG 😂 this undead meta looks absolutely terrible
I was really looking forward to new content, but after watching these new undead videos, i really don't feel like playing. It just seems waaaay too powerful.
I care Zenron... I care
Hp doesn't help U in the Meta. Nothing can outscale
Battlegrounds is so broken now. It literally comes down to who gets more Undead since no other tribe can beat them 🤣
I feel like this tribe's mechanics sound good on paper but in game they get a bit obnoxious to play and watch.
Wtf did I just watch... Wow.
Hmm. Not bad.