After my Six Moon designs Lunar Solo tore (good tent, just had bad luck with it twice) i got the MSR Freelite II, heavier but comfy & roomy, i can deal with the extra weight :) (1100g)
I'm considering going with a tarp and bathtub setup or bivy. What do you think if the Plexamid vs Summit Mosquito Pyramid Net Shelter 2.9 oz Z-Packs Hexamid Pocket Tarp w/ Door 5.2 oz Z-Packs Solo-Plus size Bathtub Groundsheet 3.5oz for a total weight of 11.6 oz Or vs bivy set up Z-Packs Hexamid Pocket Tarp w/ Door 5.2 oz Enlightened Equipment Recon bivy 6.35 oz 11.55 oz
Sounds like a WINNER to me. I recently picked up the Hexamid Pocket Tarp w/ Door & the Solo-Plus size Bathtub. Hadn't thought about using it with my Recon tho 🤔 Thanks for the Idea! Hike On, Darwin
MSR Hubba Hubba NX, bout 2-3 years old. It's a good tent but I hate setting the damn thing up. Feel like I'm always fighting the rainfly to get the proper setup. It's my most expensive tent but I'm always trying to find a replacement for it. Also don't want to spend another $350+ on a tent again!
@@DarwinOnthetrail The Hexamid and bathtub seem like a perfect solution once a bug net gets involved. My third option is Hexamid with a Mountain Laurel Designs MLD Bug Bivy 6.5 oz for a total of 11.7 oz. It has more room than the EE Recon. I'm kind of leaning towards the Hexamid with Bathtub plus and Sea to Summit net. This gives me the most room for almost the same weight. Everything should still be pretty small for bike camping (I would still bring a trekking pole to incase I'm in an area where I need a cane). Also if something does break I replace that part and not a whole $500+ tent. Haha when you're in rehab waiting to get your new legs you have time to look this stuff up. Thanks for the video! It was perfect timing and really helped me decide what I think I want to do.
Hay man i just want to thank you for all the valuable information. haven't always followed your advise but you have always pointed me in the right direction. keep following your path brother.
I’ve been carrying a camo duplex for over two years now, I believe I have found my perfect shelter! Besides, the customer service @zpacks is AWESOME!!!
Thanks a lot Darwin. I was worried about my size, 186cm (around 6.2 feet I think), and I think you confirmed my fears. They should do a semi 1,5 person Duplex, and it could be perfect ha ha ha. Take care and hugs from Switzerland
Thanks for the review D, I'm only 5'10" and I still find the Plexamid is too short for a 2.5" thick pad and a 20 degree bag, the toe box is usually wet by mornin :(
Similar? I just got back from a Sierra Nevada trip with the Gatewood Cape and Serenity Net Tent. Love the light weight, but he small size got old real fast. I'm 5'11".
I keep looking at the Duplex and telling myself, "someday...". But right now that's like a year's worth of diaper money, so until the kids grow up I'll just have to live vicariously through your videos. Thanks!
I have three young kids myself and would love a Duplex but it breaks my budget. I bought the 3F UL Lanshan 2 from Aliexpress. It’s dual wall with the same shape as the Duplex. It’s 1290g but fairly cheap for the weight and size.
You should see Hyperlite's 1 Person Tent. It's Heavier & Cost $795 which is really insane... As far a DCF Tents go, The Plexamid seems to be a Good Price for what you get 👉 www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/collections/ultralight-backpacking-shelters-tents/products/dirigo-2-ultralight-backpacking-tent Hike On, Darwin
@@samtoshner8002 That makes the assumption that a much less expensive alternative would weigh more to the point where the pack would feel heavy to you. You can get a similarly claustrophobic hiking tent like the Geertop that comes in at an est. touch over 2.5 pounds for about $100. It will also pack down smaller and isn't half the pain in the ass to set up that this Zpacks one apparently is.
My main tent is a Duplex, but I recently got the Pocket Tarp (no doors) with polycryo ground sheet for those times I think I'm more badass than I actually am. Darwin, I'd love to see a review of your newly acquired Pocket Tarp w/ Doors.
Hi, I´m 6'4" (193cm) tall and looking for some UL tent. It´s looks Zpacks are all too short for me:-( Have you some ideas or tips for 1person UL Tent? My favourite is SMD Lunar Solo 2019... (I use now tarp Appy trail mark3). Thanks for help:-)
@@ondrejbaly The longest UL 1P I've come across is the Lightheart Gear SoLong6. If you're deadset on a 1P tent, thats worth a look. I'm just gonna grab the Duplex. Its only $50 more than the Plexamid and I know I fit well in it on the diagonal.
@@DevilDawg2008 thanks for tip:-) SoLong6 is for me something new, i will check it. Yes, Duplex + diagonal position is good solution:-) you have some space for gear inside.
Been waiting for this! I bought my Plexamid in late March. After practicing pitches a few days in my backyard I took it on a 3 day trip in the Ozarks! Was perfect. The weight, pole setup, and room space as 5ft 10in male could not have been better. Unfortunately after my hike I set it up in my yard to air out and later found the small rods broken. Zpacks quickly answered the call and shipped replacements...however those too failed after another two trips. After contacting again they told me they were in the works for a solution and gave me the choices of refund, swapping up, or wait for the new rods to be developed. I love everything else about the tent and chose to wait for new rods. I've had them in and replaced now for three trips with no fail. Could not be more pleased in the tent now and their customer service!!! I love only using one pole and am glad to keep using this tent. The condensation has been very minimal even in the humidity of the Arkansas summer. And the rectangle packing size works well with my 38lt SWD pack despite the volume it takes up. Excellent and fair review as always Darwin! Happy hiking!
Hi Austen, would you mind saying what type of replacement struts Zpacks mailed you ? They mailed me a pair of taped double thin white struts. Others were mailed a pair of single thicker struts. I've used the replacement struts for 3 nights in wind and rain and so far so good.
@@magpiecollingwood9116I can't remember what they called them. I know they are different material and thicker than original. The email they sent said they had tried a "epoxy compound" that tested well and they would send me them. I've not had much test other than a weekend trip and a yard set up but they held up fine so far... pretty basic conditions though so not a great test yet. They felt way more sturdy.
@@Austen.McDaniel Thanks for your reply. I've been further testing the tent in my backyard the last 3 days with some rough weather . The double white struts are still ok. The plexamid is still not available on Zpacks which means they're still testing. Which also means that what they have sent us may not be the ones they finally release. I hope Zpacks will send those successful struts to their existing Plexamid customers (Either as a spare or to replace what we've got already)
Lol! Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? "It's a great tent"....Can't lay down flat in it, doesn't pack smaller, doesn't set up as easily, doesn't weigh significantly less, and although it hasn't happened to you, many people have had a critical part break. Outside of does it keep me dry, those are top 5 features I look to when buying a tent .
Having had to weather a serious storm or two in a Plexamid sized tent I’ll never again go that small, especially when the price and weight difference is as little as between the Pleximid and Duplex. It’s the Duplex I carry.
I sold my Plexamid in May and bought a new Duplex. More room, two entries, and no x-pieces where the trekking poles to break. I had one snap on the AT.
I just got the plexamid these days and I can say that I'm totally fine with the dimensions. I'm 187cm and I have plenty of space for both: feet and head. Maybe they really made it a bit taller because of your review??!! Also to build it up for me was no problem because it was the same as my last tent: sixmoondesign lunar solo. That was too small for me and not that waterproof in the lang term... so the plexamid for me solved All problems of the lunar solo and is in my opinion the perfect 1p tent🥰👍🥰😍 But for low budget I can recommend the lunar solo for dudes not taller than 178cm!!!
It Actually is Quite Easy to do... I don't work for them & they don't pay me to use or talk about their gear. Friends are Friends, but I play by my own rules & really dig having integrity. 😉 Hike On, Darwin
I love my Duplex as well. The problem I have with it is the amount of space you need to get a proper set up. Fine for on trail hiking but once you hit x-country you'll find yourself searching for a spot for your tent rather than just finding camp. Make sense?
I have a Duplex but it makes me anxious when reaching camps late at night that have hard packed out pads. I also hate my toe box being soaked from the tent sidewall as it was a heavy rain year this year on the GDT. Love the weight of the tent but miss some of the harder weather benefits of double walls and free standing. Would trade the weight benefit I have for harder weather trips and just leave the tent stakes behind with a Nemo.
Darwin, I would really like if you could do some budget-friendly gear reviews for things like tents, backpacks, and quilts. I think Dan Becker made a really great point earlier this year in one of his videos talking about how the perceived cost of getting into backpacking is astronomical because so many thru-hikers use all this very specialized and (rightfully so) very expensive gear. Just a thought! Always wanted a Duplex but can't justify the cost as a weekend warrior myself.
Hey Lyset! That's a Great Idea, but I tend to only Review Gear I myself use in the field & have tested over thousands of miles. A couple years ago I made a Video Series called "Lighten Your Load on a Budget". They were great but as I explained in the video, I used something else. I am also a Big Supporter of Cottage Gear Companies. I would rather give them my money VS giving my money to a Big Box Mass-Produced Brand. Most Cottage Company Gear is Made for Hikers, By Hikers. I try my best to keep my money & business within the community that I am a part of which is why I stopped doing the "Gear on a Budget" videos. Hopefully, that makes sense. Hike On, Darwin
Lanshan 2 and don't look back. Otherwise wait another month and 3F UL is releasing the Lanshan 2 pro. It's $100 tent that is two person and weighs under 2 lbs. The current Lanshan 2 weighs 2.4 lbs
@@KD-bk7gd Oh there's a chance I likely do get a Duplex down the road, I was just putting a thought out there. If you search for "backpacking gear" on TH-cam, I'm sure Darwin is one of the first that comes up. It was just a thought, I'm *able* to afford the nicer stuff, I just try not to impulse buy things nowadays. After all, that's why I have had like 5 tents and backpacks at one single time before. I'm just going to start giving away gear to boy scout troops soon, LOL
After the PCT this year, I can tell that those rods on the square plate on top were the worst. Even after drying the tent in the sun, they snapped... for like the 6th time. I figured the sun was the culprit. I kept asking Zpacks to send me other rods but after that drying session, I was like "OK l give up". So I just continued and finished without them, having a bad headroom in the tent and condensation water on my head and shoulders when there was condensation. Single wall tents are bad for condensation... even tho I haven't had any problem pitching that tent (for people that might put the argument that the airflow was bad) The snapped rods pierced the DCF material a couple times. I used all my Cuben Fiber tape to repair it on trail, and still have holes in it. I hope they will come with a better design for that plate, because at first this tent was rocking it honestly. Oh and the bathtub floor ripped too. I put Leukotape at that time to close the ripped part, but I was surprised to see that this thing can rip.
I enjoy my six moon designs lunar solo! Held up great under the bridge at scissors crossing during a crazy windstorm! (Lots of zpacks tents had to be fixed in the middle of the night) and it’s only a third of the price!
Yep!! Had the Carbon Fiber Rods break while setting it up the first time. Had two more that were sent to me by Zpacks break also. The customer service was nothing short of terrific, but I ended up sending the tent back and they refunded the whole purchase price. They "DO" stand behind their products 100%. Once they get the bugs out, I might be tempted to give the Plexamid another try. We'll see...….
I get a good work out ! I use a B A copper Spur 3 person tent ! at 3lbs 8 oz. alone with a B A Insulated Q core Deluxe sleeping pad at 2 lbs 9 ozs I sleep like a baby with plenty of room to lounge around in the tent but I pay for that with weight oh yes I have a Osprey 105 pack to manage all of that weight . The AT was fun along with the Pinhoti trail and the Benton Mackaye trail . So you can hike with regular hiking gear its just what ever works for you I enjoy your video's Thank you Ricky
I'm a short person. The duplex has enough floor room that I had to get on my knees and crawl to reach the other door or far corners. Painful. I sold it and bought a Hexamid Solo Plus for thruhiking. Bought a Plexamid later, for the lighter weight. I miss the extra room for gear in the Hexamid, but I've made it work in the Plexamid. Still prefer both to the larger tent.
I bought the Plexamid from Zpacks at the beginning of June 2019. I set it up for the first time in the backyard and the carbon rods on the top broke the first time I set it up. Returned to Zpacks for a refund which they did. Glad to hear they have stopped selling it to fix the problems.
Packability and lack of abrasion resistance are two downsides of DCF apparently. I'm using a Lanshan 1 which I find extremely simple to setup. I've also got a Borah Gear Bivy arriving this weekend for around a 1 lbs affordable shelter option with either my poncho or a 9 oz tarp that I picked up recently. If I was going to get any tent I'd go with the TarpTent Aeon Li over anything from ZPacks. The design looks miles ahead of the Plexamid.
I just used the Plexamid for my PCT thru hike this year. By far the best tent I ever owned! I had no issues with it, no broken rods... After 2653 miles it stil looks new (exept for the stufsack)
Thanks mate. A very informative video for us considering a substantial purchase. Also, being from down under, love it anytime you mention the weight in grams.
Hey men you deserve to get some!! Not your style It's so cooool HaHa Anyway I bought Zpacks backpack few month ago, How thanks to you, this is south korea
Got a Duplex this year and in limited usage so far, I'm pleased. I like the concept of a single pole tent, and I own one (SMD Lunar Solo), but I feel just a bit claustrophobic in it. I'm sticking with the Duplex for a while longer!
I had that issue with my plex beta v. Carbon stay broke and poked a hole in the tent. Zpacks fixed me up with new stays and a long strip of tape to patch the hole.
OK the Plexamid is 14 oz. and the Tarptent AEON is 17.6 oz. (with stuff sack and W/O stakes) but I'll take the AEON Li for its more useable interior space with its CF struts. Plus the AEON Li has better ventilation flow than the Plexamid and far fewer guy lines. -> And Finally no tentmaker makes higher quality DCF tents than Tarptent. Period. TT's stress point reinforcements and stitching are "Hilleberg quality", especially now that they are made in a top tier Chinese tent factory. (TT had to shift its DCF tent production to Chins due to a skilled labor shortage in TT's California facility.)
I know this isn't really as light as you would like, but have you ever encountered a Lanshan 1 or Lanshan 2? They are quite similar, though double walled, and a little bit heavier. Oh, and they cost about $120. It would be great if you could review these budget-friendly, very lightweight (not DCF lightweight, but still pretty darn light) tents. They seem more akin to Six Moon Designs' Lunar solo and Haven combos, but... trekking pole tents, similar shape. Having come across them myself, I can assure you that they are *not* cheap junk! Cheers!
Bought a Duplex recently. Have only got to use it twice so far, but I like it. Only me, so 'could' use a one person. But I like some extra room. Much prefer the two pole, horizontal ridge line to a single pole tent. Being able to keep pack, boots inside last week, in the pouring rain, is nicer than trying to keep things dry in a vestibule. In a 'perfect world', maybe there would be a "Duplex Narrow", about 12" narrower... but that would only save a couple ounces at most, and couldn't be used with two people... so maybe not so "Perfect" either. :-) Other than price (I returned a $300 Big Agnes Tiger Wall I'd bought on sale to buy this.), no regrets.
Just picked up my first ultralight tent at the beginning of 2019. I’m rocking the Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2. I love it. I have used it was two people ... definitely a bit tight. With only one ... it’s pretty darn perfect. Had it out in some pretty bad rain/wind for multiple nights and had zero problems. Been super happy so far.
Used the Plexamid on Skurka's Wind River High route this season and it was perfect. Held up to high winds and I needed the bug protection. No condensation on those breezy high alpine nights. I also have a duplex and those 5 oz were important given the need to carry 8 days of food. Smaller FOOTPRINT was also KEY. At least three of the nights would have been really hard to find a rock circle large enough to pitch a duplex.
I looked at the Plexamid, then the Tarptent AEON Li and finally got the Tarptent Gen. 2 Notch Li double wall tent. Love it. Two vestibules and 2 doors for max storage or ventilation. IMHO it's the best Dyneema solo tent out there. VERY fast to pitch. Requires only 2 guy lines IF the fly doors are ALL rolled back or if there is a windstorm. BONUS: My CF hiking poles "hiking length" is the same as the length needed to pitch the Notch Li.
Darwin..... there’s got to be some trade offs. It’s light but...... dang. It looks flimsy. How about condensation? It must suck? You just throw it down and catch a few winks then back on the trail. What about the rest if us that might spend more time in less than ideal situations? And the price? It’s outrageous! Really? 😳😳🤨
Hi- that may come a little late, but I just hiked the PCT and had a couple different tents on trail. I was considering the Zpacks tents for a new hike I am planning but got scared of the Dyneema with my last tent crapping out badly ( BA tiger wall carbon 2P) the rainfly generated millions of tiny tear holes even though I packed it up nicely. I was lucky with the rain and only got wet 3 times. The tent also has a Dyneema tub / tent floor and a the water / moisture came in through the respectable ground sheet and through the dyneema floor ( apparently dyneema can’t absorb water .... yea kinda mine did) so I made a large quality report and shipped it back to BA hoping I may get a replacement tent and they may get some valuable information to fix some quality issues. Let’s see. I am contemplating between single wall and double wall tents... not liking the condensation issues of the single walls and the bug free stargazing options with the double walls. But am weight conscious. Looking at the cooper spur platinum 2 p ... do u or anyone in the feed have any notes / experience on that? I do like a fully freestanding tent - so less hassle :) best SUE aka FIREFLY ( insta: sue_perwomen)
A Kelty Saluda 2 man. That is really a one man, barely. Pissed off at that. Car camping, not hiking, at national parks. and KOA campgrounds. Very heavy at 5 pounds, but sturdy in a big rain and windstorm. Kept me warm and dry. By the time I got to Sequoia one of the guy line points in front had torn out, but the seam was easy to re-sew. The sides come up half way, giving better privacy and security without the fly. Main gripe: the color is putty and light green. The rainfly is so light that I was not able to sleep well because of spot lights in the campgrounds. I would prefer a dark blue or dark green fly so I had better rest, or deep orange, so I could use it to signal for rescue. I like my camp gear to be color coordinated so that I know what's mine and what isn't. But its impossible to coordinate with that tent. I was also quite sick for three days in that tent, and again the light color was not conducive to healthy rest. I'd definitely get a bigger tent next time, because the vestibule was small and I needed to keep my pack inside during that storm. Which made things uncomfortable inside. There really wasn't enough room for it. My previous tent in 1975 was an LL Bean 1 person circular blue dome with plenty of room and collapsible poles in Nepal. The poles were a new invention then! As was my Svea stove, which was top of the line and still works perfectly, nesting inside its own tiny cook set. 25 then, 71 now. Bad knee, can't hike anymore. Darn it! But love watching you do it! Boogie on!
No Duplex or Pleximad for me. Simply because they are not for sale here in Holland. And no European tentmaker is, as far as I know using DCF. Which is annoying because dyneema was invented here, fifty miles from where I live. Even the Swedes, who think they are very modern and an example for human kind, still stick to nylon tents that weighs, and sometimes costs, twice as much. So Zpacks, yoohoo, come over here. We have nice stroopwafels and lots of outdoor stores.
I don’t care for tents because i like tosee my surroundings. I Just picked up an 8x10 flat tarp from liteoutdoors. It only weighs 11 ounces with the stuff sack. I’m using a polycryo ground sheet.
This is why I’m ok with an extra pound or two for a free standing tent with poles. Easy to setup and if I don’t have footprint space for guy lines....it isn’t a big deal...I’ll still stay dry. Also...that pack size seems big in that thing.
I want to purchase zpacks tent but I'm sort of confused about the lengths. The zpacks site states the duplex, plexemid triplex are all the same length at 7.5 feet. Is the duplex longer? I did watch your review on the duplex.
I agree 100% I own both tents. If I was to start a 2020 through hike it would be with my Duplex. I only used my Plexamid 4 nights on a 100 mile section hike. So my review is limited. I got one of the bad tents I broke both rods that caused other damage to the tent so my tent is being repaired. That said I really like the Plexamid for what it is. I’m a smaller guy 5’7” so it does fit me better but for 5oz I will take the room. On nights with condensation it’s still hard not touching the walls while getting dressed in the morning. All in all if the carbon rod problem does get fixed I would buy one of these if it fits your needs. I personally wish I would not have bought the Plexamid because I already own the best tent ever, the Duplex. Hard to beat the king of tents. Darwin great review I agree 100%
I've had a Hexamid Solo tent with a DCF bathtub for 3 years now. At the time I was worried that the tent wouldn't last, or wouldn't provide the protection needed in the rain. Boy was I wrong. I've spent 40-50 nights a year in this tent in heavy rains, freezing weather, and sweltering nights. It breaths really well. Weighs in at 14 oz with Shepard hook TI stakes. I have discovered that the pitch can be tricky, but I can plan for the night by pitching it high or low to the ground. If I'm at a lower elevation and the night will be mostly dry I'll pitch the tent 4-5" higher than I would on a wet or colder night. This provides ample ventilation or lack thereof. I've never had a wet night through blowing thunderstorms. Condensation isn't as much a problem as on more closed up tents. This is the tent for me without a doubt. Plus - when you're in the position where you have to 'figure it out' you tend to discover some of the best tricks for your gear. You develop a relationship with it. I can't recommend the Hexamid Solo more. I'm 5' 10" and fit my XTherm (large), 20F Zpacks quilt, and all clothing and gear either inside my tent with me or hanging my pack from my trekking pole holding up the tent. This is another excellent way to keep your gear off the ground. Since I purchased mine in 2016 they've made significant improvements to the tent. No longer do you have the 'rain beak' that I have. Instead, you get storm doors. You will need to purchase a DCF bathtub that suspends from the inside that you sleep within. I hope this helps someone. This tent is by far the best piece of gear I have.
I have the Plexamid in the lighter version. Both carbon fiber stays broke on me after only 3-4 nights into a 16 night trip. Tent still works without the stays, just not as much head room. Once I returned home I emailed Zpacks. They sent me out new stays immediately and had them with 2-3 days. The new stays are different than the original, maybe they changed them because of the problems with them breaking. I am 6 foot tall and have just enough room for all my gear inside the tent at night, if I was any taller I would probably have to upgrade to the Duplex.
I am embarrassed to say, I am using cheap Chinese knock off 3F UL Gear 2 Person. And I hate to say Dam good tent for the money, but three pounds. I try to buy cottage gear, but that one is spendy. I used mine two weeks worth of nights last year. That makes it hard to justify the price. Thanks for the vids.
I had the Plexamid last year. I used it seven days in The Black Hills of South Dakota. I sold it when I got home for many of the same reasons as Darwin. I'm 5'10" and my feet and head were way to close to the tent. Woke up most morning with a wet sleeping bag foot box. Also with the carbon stays this tent is a pain to fold up.
I use the Asivik Solo and I quite like it. It isn't super light (2 kgs), but it's easy to set up, plenty of room, and a big vestibule. I have thought about getting a duplex but I hike in Denmark and Sweden and we have really wet weather so I am bit uncertain if a single-wall tent like the duplex will hold out in very rainy weather.
I'd be concerned about the top strut in big winds - could be a weakness. Compared to a single-point apex you're going to get strange torsions and uneven tension on the panels, or even a breakage. I'm thinking it's really only for sheltered sites and stable weather...
I would love to have either for my PCT thru hike next year but $550 for me on a fixed income will be impossible. I need the Garmin Inreach + more. My tent now weighs 3 pounds I'd love to go ultra lite but tent wise will be no and I'll take weight away somewhere else.
It may not be sponsored or paid for but I'm sure darwinonthetrail owns this company lol just half joking at least some shares your way too knowledgeable what blows me away is that you've hopefully honestly slept 50-60 nights inside of this tent and you still cannot Master the setup that appeals me as a camper who likes to challenge themselves continuously
I recently purchased a Duplex and have only had one solo test run overnight so far, and I’m wondering: Do you use your Duplex when backpacking with Snuggles? My bf is around your height and I’m afraid he’ll take one look and say no way we’re both fitting in there! 😅 Any tips for sleeping two comfortably?
So, since you also seem to hike with Waterproof packs, and these tents are made of a somewhat more duable material why you still bother with the stuff sack? Seems that you could fold the tent to the width of the pack, and it would take up less space inside your pack? Have you tried, this, are there specific reasons why you want the sack ? Thanks!
What are your tricks and tips for setting these tents up in loose or rock hard soil? I'm really intrigued by this style of tent for motorcycle camping, but I'm worried about setup where stakes are hard to use.
Being given a product for free is a form of payment, had you purchased the tent with your own money then you can truly say you are not sponsored or paid. Not meaning to have a go, I like your channel and its content but fact is fact.
what is the difference between hiking and trekking where you live? Here in my country they say hiking you don't do camping and trekking you do camping, but in the internet there's not seems to have a right definition.
What's your Favorite Zpacks Tent? What Tent are you currently Rocking on the Trail?
👇Let Me Know Down Below!👇
After my Six Moon designs Lunar Solo tore (good tent, just had bad luck with it twice) i got the MSR Freelite II, heavier but comfy & roomy, i can deal with the extra weight :) (1100g)
I'm considering going with a tarp and bathtub setup or bivy. What do you think if the Plexamid vs
Summit Mosquito Pyramid Net Shelter 2.9 oz
Z-Packs Hexamid Pocket Tarp w/ Door 5.2 oz
Z-Packs Solo-Plus size Bathtub Groundsheet 3.5oz
for a total weight of 11.6 oz
Or vs bivy set up
Z-Packs Hexamid Pocket Tarp w/ Door 5.2 oz
Enlightened Equipment Recon bivy 6.35 oz
11.55 oz
Sounds like a WINNER to me. I recently picked up the Hexamid Pocket Tarp w/ Door & the Solo-Plus size Bathtub.
Hadn't thought about using it with my Recon tho 🤔
Thanks for the Idea!
Hike On,
Darwin
MSR Hubba Hubba NX, bout 2-3 years old. It's a good tent but I hate setting the damn thing up. Feel like I'm always fighting the rainfly to get the proper setup. It's my most expensive tent but I'm always trying to find a replacement for it. Also don't want to spend another $350+ on a tent again!
@@DarwinOnthetrail The Hexamid and bathtub seem like a perfect solution once a bug net gets involved. My third option is Hexamid with a Mountain Laurel Designs MLD Bug Bivy 6.5 oz for a total of 11.7 oz. It has more room than the EE Recon.
I'm kind of leaning towards the Hexamid with Bathtub plus and Sea to Summit net. This gives me the most room for almost the same weight. Everything should still be pretty small for bike camping (I would still bring a trekking pole to incase I'm in an area where I need a cane). Also if something does break I replace that part and not a whole $500+ tent.
Haha when you're in rehab waiting to get your new legs you have time to look this stuff up. Thanks for the video! It was perfect timing and really helped me decide what I think I want to do.
well out of my price range, watched the whole video anyway because you've got great content.
Thanks Matt!
I did the same thing! Haha
Me too 😂
Hay man i just want to thank you for all the valuable information. haven't always followed your advise but you have always pointed me in the right direction. keep following your path brother.
I’ve been carrying a camo duplex for over two years now, I believe I have found my perfect shelter! Besides, the customer service @zpacks is AWESOME!!!
Thanks a lot Darwin. I was worried about my size, 186cm (around 6.2 feet I think), and I think you confirmed my fears. They should do a semi 1,5 person Duplex, and it could be perfect ha ha ha. Take care and hugs from Switzerland
Thanks for the review D, I'm only 5'10" and I still find the Plexamid is too short for a 2.5" thick pad and a 20 degree bag, the toe box is usually wet by mornin :(
Looks like a condensation nightmare. Sticking with my Duomid.
Big Sky International has What they call Super bivy. The DCF version is said to be 10.6 oz or 300g.
Similar? I just got back from a Sierra Nevada trip with the Gatewood Cape and Serenity Net Tent. Love the light weight, but he small size got old real fast. I'm 5'11".
My carbon stay snapped today after 700 miles.
BUMMER!!!!
Hike On,
Darwin
Great review. Love the honest likes and dislikes!
I keep looking at the Duplex and telling myself, "someday...". But right now that's like a year's worth of diaper money, so until the kids grow up I'll just have to live vicariously through your videos. Thanks!
Eh, let the kids poop in the yard. Just make sure they don't get any on your new Duplex!
@@DuffyGabi yep, a great father over a zpack tent any day
I have three young kids myself and would love a Duplex but it breaks my budget. I bought the 3F UL Lanshan 2 from Aliexpress. It’s dual wall with the same shape as the Duplex. It’s 1290g but fairly cheap for the weight and size.
Get the 3F Lanshan for $150..outstanding!!!!
We'll look for your post in 18-21 years!
Your killer beard alone is reason for me to stay subbed you your awesome channel. The review was great as well!!
😂😂😂 Thanks Dan!
It's the beard we all aspire to!
Don't do it Dan! We like your face. LET Darwin's epic beard be his own. Lol
Everyone has his own price point. For $550, I feel it should set itself up and rub my feet at the end of the day.
You should see Hyperlite's 1 Person Tent. It's Heavier & Cost $795 which is really insane... As far a DCF Tents go, The Plexamid seems to be a Good Price for what you get 👉 www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/collections/ultralight-backpacking-shelters-tents/products/dirigo-2-ultralight-backpacking-tent
Hike On,
Darwin
go with an old school BA Scout .price good, performs well ,weighs 2lbs, and cost 160.
At 19 oz, it's rubbing your feet every step of the way along the trail. Nothing makes your feet sore like a heavy pack.
@@samtoshner8002 That makes the assumption that a much less expensive alternative would weigh more to the point where the pack would feel heavy to you. You can get a similarly claustrophobic hiking tent like the Geertop that comes in at an est. touch over 2.5 pounds for about $100. It will also pack down smaller and isn't half the pain in the ass to set up that this Zpacks one apparently is.
How I see it is, I pay about $700 a month for rent. If I use this tent on a 4 month thru hike and then more. Well, you see where I’m getting at.
My main tent is a Duplex, but I recently got the Pocket Tarp (no doors) with polycryo ground sheet for those times I think I'm more badass than I actually am. Darwin, I'd love to see a review of your newly acquired Pocket Tarp w/ Doors.
Stay Tuned! Need to get a bunch of miles on it 1st 😉
I'm 6'5" and was waiting on the Plexamid to come back in stock. You saved me a lot of annoyance in having to return it and buy the Duplex. Thanks!
Hi, I´m 6'4" (193cm) tall and looking for some UL tent. It´s looks Zpacks are all too short for me:-( Have you some ideas or tips for 1person UL Tent? My favourite is SMD Lunar Solo 2019... (I use now tarp Appy trail mark3). Thanks for help:-)
@@ondrejbaly The longest UL 1P I've come across is the Lightheart Gear SoLong6. If you're deadset on a 1P tent, thats worth a look. I'm just gonna grab the Duplex. Its only $50 more than the Plexamid and I know I fit well in it on the diagonal.
@@ondrejbaly I've got the SMd Lunar Solo too and its a little to short for my liking.
@@DevilDawg2008 thanks for tip:-) SoLong6 is for me something new, i will check it. Yes, Duplex + diagonal position is good solution:-) you have some space for gear inside.
@@ondrejbaly precisely. I like my gear inside with me. Even when I used a freestanding tent (MSR Hubba Hubba NX) I used a 2P tent.
Excellent review Brother! Gotta love the weight, that's for sure!
Happy Trails...
I had me and 2 other dudes in my duplex this weekend during an emergency thunderstorm for 4 hours. Crazy rain. I love the duplex. No brokeback.
Lol
Nothing more manly than broke back
Been waiting for this! I bought my Plexamid in late March. After practicing pitches a few days in my backyard I took it on a 3 day trip in the Ozarks! Was perfect. The weight, pole setup, and room space as 5ft 10in male could not have been better.
Unfortunately after my hike I set it up in my yard to air out and later found the small rods broken. Zpacks quickly answered the call and shipped replacements...however those too failed after another two trips. After contacting again they told me they were in the works for a solution and gave me the choices of refund, swapping up, or wait for the new rods to be developed. I love everything else about the tent and chose to wait for new rods. I've had them in and replaced now for three trips with no fail. Could not be more pleased in the tent now and their customer service!!!
I love only using one pole and am glad to keep using this tent. The condensation has been very minimal even in the humidity of the Arkansas summer. And the rectangle packing size works well with my 38lt SWD pack despite the volume it takes up.
Excellent and fair review as always Darwin! Happy hiking!
Hi Austen, would you mind saying what type of replacement struts Zpacks mailed you ? They mailed me a pair of taped double thin white struts. Others were mailed a pair of single thicker struts. I've used the replacement struts for 3 nights in wind and rain and so far so good.
@@magpiecollingwood9116I can't remember what they called them. I know they are different material and thicker than original. The email they sent said they had tried a "epoxy compound" that tested well and they would send me them. I've not had much test other than a weekend trip and a yard set up but they held up fine so far... pretty basic conditions though so not a great test yet. They felt way more sturdy.
@@Austen.McDaniel Thanks for your reply. I've been further testing the tent in my backyard the last 3 days with some rough weather . The double white struts are still ok.
The plexamid is still not available on Zpacks which means they're still testing. Which also means that what they have sent us may not be the ones they finally release. I hope Zpacks will send those successful struts to their existing Plexamid customers (Either as a spare or to replace what we've got already)
Lol! Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
"It's a great tent"....Can't lay down flat in it, doesn't pack smaller, doesn't set up as easily, doesn't weigh significantly less, and although it hasn't happened to you, many people have had a critical part break.
Outside of does it keep me dry, those are top 5 features I look to when buying a tent .
Having had to weather a serious storm or two in a Plexamid sized tent I’ll never again go that small, especially when the price and weight difference is as little as between the Pleximid and Duplex. It’s the Duplex I carry.
DUPLEX FOR THE WIN!
I sold my Plexamid in May and bought a new Duplex. More room, two entries, and no x-pieces where the trekking poles to break. I had one snap on the AT.
Nice review and very fair. I just got my first trekking pole tent, the X-Mid UL 1P tent. So far I've only taken it out twice but loving it.
I try 😂... I've been interested in the X-Mid. Looks pretty decent!
Hike On,
Darwin
I just got the plexamid these days and I can say that I'm totally fine with the dimensions. I'm 187cm and I have plenty of space for both: feet and head.
Maybe they really made it a bit taller because of your review??!!
Also to build it up for me was no problem because it was the same as my last tent: sixmoondesign lunar solo. That was too small for me and not that waterproof in the lang term... so the plexamid for me solved All problems of the lunar solo and is in my opinion the perfect 1p tent🥰👍🥰😍
But for low budget I can recommend the lunar solo for dudes not taller than 178cm!!!
I saved up for awhile to buy this tent. Shipping takes forever and I keep coming back and watching your video 🥲
Thanks for your honesty even though you are "hanging out" with zpack. It's important to maintain that and is something not easy to do.
It Actually is Quite Easy to do... I don't work for them & they don't pay me to use or talk about their gear. Friends are Friends, but I play by my own rules & really dig having integrity. 😉
Hike On,
Darwin
It had the cons as well a the + so a fair review.
@@rogerhudson2814 exactly.
I love my Duplex as well. The problem I have with it is the amount of space you need to get a proper set up. Fine for on trail hiking but once you hit x-country you'll find yourself searching for a spot for your tent rather than just finding camp. Make sense?
$550 = 5 nights in a hotel. I would rather get 100 nights on the trail...
💯% YES!
I am using a Duplex in New Zealand bush, performed well in extreme rain, very very pleased with it.
I bet it's gorgeous (one day I'll get to hike New Zealand). When it does happen it'll be in a Duplex w/o a doubt.
I have a Duplex but it makes me anxious when reaching camps late at night that have hard packed out pads. I also hate my toe box being soaked from the tent sidewall as it was a heavy rain year this year on the GDT. Love the weight of the tent but miss some of the harder weather benefits of double walls and free standing. Would trade the weight benefit I have for harder weather trips and just leave the tent stakes behind with a Nemo.
Darwin, I would really like if you could do some budget-friendly gear reviews for things like tents, backpacks, and quilts. I think Dan Becker made a really great point earlier this year in one of his videos talking about how the perceived cost of getting into backpacking is astronomical because so many thru-hikers use all this very specialized and (rightfully so) very expensive gear. Just a thought! Always wanted a Duplex but can't justify the cost as a weekend warrior myself.
Hey Lyset! That's a Great Idea, but I tend to only Review Gear I myself use in the field & have tested over thousands of miles. A couple years ago I made a Video Series called "Lighten Your Load on a Budget". They were great but as I explained in the video, I used something else. I am also a Big Supporter of Cottage Gear Companies. I would rather give them my money VS giving my money to a Big Box Mass-Produced Brand. Most Cottage Company Gear is Made for Hikers, By Hikers. I try my best to keep my money & business within the community that I am a part of which is why I stopped doing the "Gear on a Budget" videos. Hopefully, that makes sense.
Hike On,
Darwin
@@DarwinOnthetrail Right on, thanks for the response!
Lanshan 2 and don't look back. Otherwise wait another month and 3F UL is releasing the Lanshan 2 pro. It's $100 tent that is two person and weighs under 2 lbs. The current Lanshan 2 weighs 2.4 lbs
Great Feedback Kent!
Hike On,
Darwin
@@KD-bk7gd Oh there's a chance I likely do get a Duplex down the road, I was just putting a thought out there. If you search for "backpacking gear" on TH-cam, I'm sure Darwin is one of the first that comes up. It was just a thought, I'm *able* to afford the nicer stuff, I just try not to impulse buy things nowadays. After all, that's why I have had like 5 tents and backpacks at one single time before. I'm just going to start giving away gear to boy scout troops soon, LOL
Spruce Duplex for both my favorite and my current tent.
After the PCT this year, I can tell that those rods on the square plate on top were the worst. Even after drying the tent in the sun, they snapped... for like the 6th time. I figured the sun was the culprit. I kept asking Zpacks to send me other rods but after that drying session, I was like "OK l give up". So I just continued and finished without them, having a bad headroom in the tent and condensation water on my head and shoulders when there was condensation. Single wall tents are bad for condensation... even tho I haven't had any problem pitching that tent (for people that might put the argument that the airflow was bad)
The snapped rods pierced the DCF material a couple times. I used all my Cuben Fiber tape to repair it on trail, and still have holes in it. I hope they will come with a better design for that plate, because at first this tent was rocking it honestly. Oh and the bathtub floor ripped too. I put Leukotape at that time to close the ripped part, but I was surprised to see that this thing can rip.
If you were shorter, would you still choose the duplex over the plexamid? I'm 5 6 so length of the tent won't really be a problem
Appreciate the honest review, I'll stay with my duplex. Congrats on the new shirt.
Hi Darwin & others with Zpacks tent experience. Ground cloth is REALLY not needed?
Im using the lan shan knock off and am about to get either the duplex or triplex
I enjoy my six moon designs lunar solo! Held up great under the bridge at scissors crossing during a crazy windstorm! (Lots of zpacks tents had to be fixed in the middle of the night) and it’s only a third of the price!
Thanks for the review. Im saving to buy a zpacks tent and was wondering about which one to take. 🙂
Wish they would bring back the Original Hexamid. I just got the New Hexamid Tarp, but wish it still had netting. 😕
Great comparison video and review my friends. Pretty straight forward. You know me, I absolutely love my Duplex.
this is the tent i bought for my PCT hike next year. i'm slept in it in the back yard a few times, still need to take it out. so for i love it though.
Great review. Based on this review and availability, I ordered the Duplex. Pretty stoked for the new gear.
Can't go Wrong with the Ol' Duplex! Tried & True!
Hike On,
Darwin
Yep!! Had the Carbon Fiber Rods break while setting it up the first time. Had two more that were sent to me by Zpacks break also. The customer service was nothing short of terrific, but I ended up sending the tent back and they refunded the whole purchase price. They "DO" stand behind their products 100%. Once they get the bugs out, I might be tempted to give the Plexamid another try. We'll see...….
I get a good work out ! I use a B A copper Spur 3 person tent ! at 3lbs 8 oz. alone with a B A Insulated Q core Deluxe sleeping pad at 2 lbs 9 ozs I sleep like a baby with plenty of room to lounge around in the tent but I pay for that with weight oh yes I have a Osprey 105 pack to manage all of that weight . The AT was fun along with the Pinhoti trail and the Benton Mackaye trail . So you can hike with regular hiking gear its just what ever works for you I enjoy your video's Thank you Ricky
I'm a short person. The duplex has enough floor room that I had to get on my knees and crawl to reach the other door or far corners. Painful. I sold it and bought a Hexamid Solo Plus for thruhiking. Bought a Plexamid later, for the lighter weight. I miss the extra room for gear in the Hexamid, but I've made it work in the Plexamid. Still prefer both to the larger tent.
I love my duplex for distance backpacking...but for car camping I love the comfort of my ALPS Mountaineering Taurus 4 person Outfitter tent.
Who gives a shit? Put that on a car camping site.
@@jhonyermo
You did
@@jhonyermo Triggered by a tent comment...is a clear indication of other...deeper problems!
I remember when @YERMO Adan was a Super Positive Guy & always left great comments.... Who Hurt You @YERMO Adan?
I’m only 5ft so I use the MHW ghost UL 1, which is definitely not big enough for anyone over 5’6” or so, but perfect for me and my 10lb doggy.
how is the price not in the dislikes
Compared to a lot of DCF tents, like the HMG 1 Person @ $795... The Plexamid is pretty fair priced.
Hike On,
Darwin
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I bought the Plexamid from Zpacks at the beginning of June 2019. I set it up for the first time in the backyard and the carbon rods on the top broke the first time I set it up. Returned to Zpacks for a refund which they did. Glad to hear they have stopped selling it to fix the problems.
Did you have any trouble with midges in Scotland? Was the bug mesh on the plexamid small enough to protect against them?
There were few midges this last three times on the TGO as it is planned for just before the little monsters bloom. Dara
Packability and lack of abrasion resistance are two downsides of DCF apparently.
I'm using a Lanshan 1 which I find extremely simple to setup. I've also got a Borah Gear Bivy arriving this weekend for around a 1 lbs affordable shelter option with either my poncho or a 9 oz tarp that I picked up recently.
If I was going to get any tent I'd go with the TarpTent Aeon Li over anything from ZPacks. The design looks miles ahead of the Plexamid.
I just used the Plexamid for my PCT thru hike this year. By far the best tent I ever owned! I had no issues with it, no broken rods... After 2653 miles it stil looks new (exept for the stufsack)
Thanks mate. A very informative video for us considering a substantial purchase. Also, being from down under, love it anytime you mention the weight in grams.
Thumbs up for being honest and informative. Duplex for the AT next year
Hey men you deserve to get some!! Not your style It's so cooool HaHa
Anyway I bought Zpacks backpack few month ago, How thanks to you, this is south korea
Duplex all the way. (I own two of them.) why? The room to weight ratio it affords can't be beat.
Love your vids. You've inspired me to start making my own! #beardbros
Callum Lee Russell you making your own tent?
Lance Moberly no, vids :p
Got a Duplex this year and in limited usage so far, I'm pleased.
I like the concept of a single pole tent, and I own one (SMD Lunar Solo), but I feel just a bit claustrophobic in it. I'm sticking with the Duplex for a while longer!
I had that issue with my plex beta v. Carbon stay broke and poked a hole in the tent. Zpacks fixed me up with new stays and a long strip of tape to patch the hole.
I agree with everything said except the part about packability. I own a Plexamid and a Duplex and my Plex packs down to half the size of the Duplex.
Does it bother u that there’s only one vestibule?
Not really... It just creates More Condensation.
Hike On,
Darwin
Man you really make a great case for the duplex over the plexamid. Makes it an even harder decision!
Great vid as always!
Darwin OntheTrail what do you store your camera in when thru hiking?
OK the Plexamid is 14 oz. and the Tarptent AEON is 17.6 oz. (with stuff sack and W/O stakes) but I'll take the AEON Li for its more useable interior space with its CF struts. Plus the AEON Li has better ventilation flow than the Plexamid and far fewer guy lines.
-> And Finally no tentmaker makes higher quality DCF tents than Tarptent. Period. TT's stress point reinforcements and stitching are "Hilleberg quality", especially now that they are made in a top tier Chinese tent factory. (TT had to shift its DCF tent production to Chins due to a skilled labor shortage in TT's California facility.)
For greater pack ability just remove the stays. here's how th-cam.com/video/tbQgKcM_0c4/w-d-xo.html
6:23 "It is a bit of a pain to set up ..." That's where they get the "plex" from. _Complex_
😂😂😂😂
I know this isn't really as light as you would like, but have you ever encountered a Lanshan 1 or Lanshan 2? They are quite similar, though double walled, and a little bit heavier. Oh, and they cost about $120. It would be great if you could review these budget-friendly, very lightweight (not DCF lightweight, but still pretty darn light) tents. They seem more akin to Six Moon Designs' Lunar solo and Haven combos, but... trekking pole tents, similar shape. Having come across them myself, I can assure you that they are *not* cheap junk! Cheers!
Bought a Duplex recently. Have only got to use it twice so far, but I like it. Only me, so 'could' use a one person. But I like some extra room. Much prefer the two pole, horizontal ridge line to a single pole tent. Being able to keep pack, boots inside last week, in the pouring rain, is nicer than trying to keep things dry in a vestibule. In a 'perfect world', maybe there would be a "Duplex Narrow", about 12" narrower... but that would only save a couple ounces at most, and couldn't be used with two people... so maybe not so "Perfect" either. :-)
Other than price (I returned a $300 Big Agnes Tiger Wall I'd bought on sale to buy this.), no regrets.
Just picked up my first ultralight tent at the beginning of 2019. I’m rocking the Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2. I love it. I have used it was two people ... definitely a bit tight. With only one ... it’s pretty darn perfect. Had it out in some pretty bad rain/wind for multiple nights and had zero problems. Been super happy so far.
Used the Plexamid on Skurka's Wind River High route this season and it was perfect. Held up to high winds and I needed the bug protection. No condensation on those breezy high alpine nights. I also have a duplex and those 5 oz were important given the need to carry 8 days of food.
Smaller FOOTPRINT was also KEY. At least three of the nights would have been really hard to find a rock circle large enough to pitch a duplex.
I looked at the Plexamid, then the Tarptent AEON Li and finally got the Tarptent Gen. 2 Notch Li double wall tent. Love it. Two vestibules and 2 doors for max storage or ventilation. IMHO it's the best Dyneema solo tent out there. VERY fast to pitch. Requires only 2 guy lines IF the fly doors are ALL rolled back or if there is a windstorm.
BONUS: My CF hiking poles "hiking length" is the same as the length needed to pitch the Notch Li.
With the same length as the Duplex, did you have the length issues with the Duplex?
badderthanyou you can sleep diagonally to increase the legroom in the duplex, gets a bit more length but not loads!
Tim Doran thanks. I am 6’2” and considering for me and my wife. I wouldn’t be able to do diagonal unless solo.
Darwin..... there’s got to be some trade offs. It’s light but...... dang. It looks flimsy. How about condensation? It must suck? You just throw it down and catch a few winks then back on the trail. What about the rest if us that might spend more time in less than ideal situations? And the price? It’s outrageous! Really? 😳😳🤨
Thanks for the review! Do you use the Flat Groundsheet from zpacks with the Duplex?
Hi- that may come a little late, but I just hiked the PCT and had a couple different tents on trail. I was considering the Zpacks tents for a new hike I am planning but got scared of the Dyneema with my last tent crapping out badly ( BA tiger wall carbon 2P) the rainfly generated millions of tiny tear holes even though I packed it up nicely. I was lucky with the rain and only got wet 3 times. The tent also has a Dyneema tub / tent floor and a the water / moisture came in through the respectable ground sheet and through the dyneema floor ( apparently dyneema can’t absorb water .... yea kinda mine did) so I made a large quality report and shipped it back to BA hoping I may get a replacement tent and they may get some valuable information to fix some quality issues. Let’s see. I am contemplating between single wall and double wall tents... not liking the condensation issues of the single walls and the bug free stargazing options with the double walls. But am weight conscious. Looking at the cooper spur platinum 2 p ... do u or anyone in the feed have any notes / experience on that? I do like a fully freestanding tent - so less hassle :) best SUE aka FIREFLY ( insta: sue_perwomen)
A Kelty Saluda 2 man. That is really a one man, barely. Pissed off at that. Car camping, not hiking, at national parks. and KOA campgrounds. Very heavy at 5 pounds, but sturdy in a big rain and windstorm. Kept me warm and dry. By the time I got to Sequoia one of the guy line points in front had torn out, but the seam was easy to re-sew. The sides come up half way, giving better privacy and security without the fly. Main gripe: the color is putty and light green. The rainfly is so light that I was not able to sleep well because of spot lights in the campgrounds. I would prefer a dark blue or dark green fly so I had better rest, or deep orange, so I could use it to signal for rescue. I like my camp gear to be color coordinated so that I know what's mine and what isn't. But its impossible to coordinate with that tent. I was also quite sick for three days in that tent, and again the light color was not conducive to healthy rest. I'd definitely get a bigger tent next time, because the vestibule was small and I needed to keep my pack inside during that storm. Which made things uncomfortable inside. There really wasn't enough room for it. My previous tent in 1975 was an LL Bean 1 person circular blue dome with plenty of room and collapsible poles in Nepal. The poles were a new invention then! As was my Svea stove, which was top of the line and still works perfectly, nesting inside its own tiny cook set. 25 then, 71 now. Bad knee, can't hike anymore. Darn it! But love watching you do it! Boogie on!
No Duplex or Pleximad for me. Simply because they are not for sale here in Holland. And no European tentmaker is, as far as I know using DCF. Which is annoying because dyneema was invented here, fifty miles from where I live. Even the Swedes, who think they are very modern and an example for human kind, still stick to nylon tents that weighs, and sometimes costs, twice as much. So Zpacks, yoohoo, come over here. We have nice stroopwafels and lots of outdoor stores.
I don’t care for tents because i like tosee my surroundings. I Just picked up an 8x10 flat tarp from liteoutdoors. It only weighs 11 ounces with the stuff sack. I’m using a polycryo ground sheet.
This is why I’m ok with an extra pound or two for a free standing tent with poles. Easy to setup and if I don’t have footprint space for guy lines....it isn’t a big deal...I’ll still stay dry. Also...that pack size seems big in that thing.
I want to purchase zpacks tent but I'm sort of confused about the lengths. The zpacks site states the duplex, plexemid triplex are all the same length at 7.5 feet. Is the duplex longer? I did watch your review on the duplex.
I agree 100% I own both tents. If I was to start a 2020 through hike it would be with my Duplex. I only used my Plexamid 4 nights on a 100 mile section hike. So my review is limited. I got one of the bad tents I broke both rods that caused other damage to the tent so my tent is being repaired. That said I really like the Plexamid for what it is. I’m a smaller guy 5’7” so it does fit me better but for 5oz I will take the room. On nights with condensation it’s still hard not touching the walls while getting dressed in the morning. All in all if the carbon rod problem does get fixed I would buy one of these if it fits your needs. I personally wish I would not have bought the Plexamid because I already own the best tent ever, the Duplex. Hard to beat the king of tents. Darwin great review I agree 100%
I've had a Hexamid Solo tent with a DCF bathtub for 3 years now. At the time I was worried that the tent wouldn't last, or wouldn't provide the protection needed in the rain. Boy was I wrong. I've spent 40-50 nights a year in this tent in heavy rains, freezing weather, and sweltering nights. It breaths really well. Weighs in at 14 oz with Shepard hook TI stakes. I have discovered that the pitch can be tricky, but I can plan for the night by pitching it high or low to the ground. If I'm at a lower elevation and the night will be mostly dry I'll pitch the tent 4-5" higher than I would on a wet or colder night. This provides ample ventilation or lack thereof. I've never had a wet night through blowing thunderstorms. Condensation isn't as much a problem as on more closed up tents. This is the tent for me without a doubt. Plus - when you're in the position where you have to 'figure it out' you tend to discover some of the best tricks for your gear. You develop a relationship with it. I can't recommend the Hexamid Solo more. I'm 5' 10" and fit my XTherm (large), 20F Zpacks quilt, and all clothing and gear either inside my tent with me or hanging my pack from my trekking pole holding up the tent. This is another excellent way to keep your gear off the ground. Since I purchased mine in 2016 they've made significant improvements to the tent. No longer do you have the 'rain beak' that I have. Instead, you get storm doors. You will need to purchase a DCF bathtub that suspends from the inside that you sleep within. I hope this helps someone. This tent is by far the best piece of gear I have.
I have the Plexamid in the lighter version. Both carbon fiber stays broke on me after only 3-4 nights into a 16 night trip. Tent still works without the stays, just not as much head room. Once I returned home I emailed Zpacks. They sent me out new stays immediately and had them with 2-3 days. The new stays are different than the original, maybe they changed them because of the problems with them breaking. I am 6 foot tall and have just enough room for all my gear inside the tent at night, if I was any taller I would probably have to upgrade to the Duplex.
I am embarrassed to say, I am using cheap Chinese knock off 3F UL Gear 2 Person. And I hate to say Dam good tent for the money, but three pounds. I try to buy cottage gear, but that one is spendy. I used mine two weeks worth of nights last year. That makes it hard to justify the price. Thanks for the vids.
Thanks for the Vid it was helpful. I just ordered the duplex!
I had the Plexamid last year. I used it seven days in The Black Hills of South Dakota. I sold it when I got home for many of the same reasons as Darwin. I'm 5'10" and my feet and head were way to close to the tent. Woke up most morning with a wet sleeping bag foot box. Also with the carbon stays this tent is a pain to fold up.
You forgot to mention the most obvious nuisance, it's the Loudest material, sounds like you're trying to sleep in a popcorn machine!!!
I'm able to pack my Plexamid tighter by stuffing it in a thermarest scout stuff sack. It has 2 straps to help tighten it down.
I use the Asivik Solo and I quite like it. It isn't super light (2 kgs), but it's easy to set up, plenty of room, and a big vestibule. I have thought about getting a duplex but I hike in Denmark and Sweden and we have really wet weather so I am bit uncertain if a single-wall tent like the duplex will hold out in very rainy weather.
I'd be concerned about the top strut in big winds - could be a weakness. Compared to a single-point apex you're going to get strange torsions and uneven tension on the panels, or even a breakage. I'm thinking it's really only for sheltered sites and stable weather...
I would love to have either for my PCT thru hike next year but $550 for me on a fixed income will be impossible. I need the Garmin Inreach + more. My tent now weighs 3 pounds I'd love to go ultra lite but tent wise will be no and I'll take weight away somewhere else.
"I'm not sponsored by Zpacks but they gave me a 549$ tent for free"...
Is it a joke ?
It may not be sponsored or paid for but I'm sure darwinonthetrail owns this company lol just half joking at least some shares your way too knowledgeable what blows me away is that you've hopefully honestly slept 50-60 nights inside of this tent and you still cannot Master the setup that appeals me as a camper who likes to challenge themselves continuously
I recently purchased a Duplex and have only had one solo test run overnight so far, and I’m wondering: Do you use your Duplex when backpacking with Snuggles? My bf is around your height and I’m afraid he’ll take one look and say no way we’re both fitting in there! 😅 Any tips for sleeping two comfortably?
The Triplex may be the answer to your dreams. Still lightweight but room for three people
So, since you also seem to hike with Waterproof packs, and these tents are made of a somewhat more duable material why you still bother with the stuff sack? Seems that you could fold the tent to the width of the pack, and it would take up less space inside your pack? Have you tried, this, are there specific reasons why you want the sack ? Thanks!
What are your tricks and tips for setting these tents up in loose or rock hard soil? I'm really intrigued by this style of tent for motorcycle camping, but I'm worried about setup where stakes are hard to use.
What do you think of the lightheart gear solong 6? I heard it's great for people over 6ft but they don't offer it in dcf which is a bummer!
Being given a product for free is a form of payment, had you purchased the tent with your own money then you can truly say you are not sponsored or paid. Not meaning to have a go, I like your channel and its content but fact is fact.
what is the difference between hiking and trekking where you live? Here in my country they say hiking you don't do camping and trekking you do camping, but in the internet there's not seems to have a right definition.
How about Duplex vs. the Hexamid Pocket Tarp?