Star of Indiana 1991 High Cam

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  • @davidponcar1505
    @davidponcar1505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Even after 30 years, this show still ranks as one of the best shows ever. Simply amazing design and performance. Happy 30th Anniversary to all of my Star friends!

    • @jaydrose6292
      @jaydrose6292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no better show in DCI history

  • @darrinthorpe9292
    @darrinthorpe9292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The cross on one side, the reforming it on the other side, along with that music, at that tempo, is probably the best 30 seconds in drum corps history.

    • @jayx9914
      @jayx9914 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      no doubt; absolute beauty

  • @jameshocker6870
    @jameshocker6870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    30 years later and still one of the best shows in DCI history! An absolute classic!

    • @howarddunbar9497
      @howarddunbar9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Amen to that

    • @mebaran73
      @mebaran73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree. I marched Glassmen that year and saw this show frequently. ‘93 Star gets more love, but this (and ‘90 Star) was just as good.

    • @Mark-sj3xb
      @Mark-sj3xb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This show was easier on the eyes AND ears than Medea

    • @jaydrose6292
      @jaydrose6292 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      anyone who marched top 3 corps in their career for more than 2 years knows this. this show was way ahead of its time

    • @jaydrose6292
      @jaydrose6292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      word!

  • @thomasqueen2942
    @thomasqueen2942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Gone but never forgotten by die hard drum corps fans: Star of Indiana.

  • @jonshannon7096
    @jonshannon7096 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Back when drill matched and enhanced the music. The cross to cross is shear genius but don’t forget the whole book is a masterpiece.

    • @timber72
      @timber72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, it was Zingali doing what no one else could do, so yes.

  • @samsignorelli
    @samsignorelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    10:03 to 10:19...the greatest 16 seconds of drill ever. George's magnum opus.

    • @OldMoneyAudition09
      @OldMoneyAudition09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its so true!

    • @RyanBoots
      @RyanBoots 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I can't get my head around the fact that this drill was never actually written. He made it up on the fly. An utter genius.

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RyanBoots Truly....I think they charted is later, tho.

    • @BrianLanders
      @BrianLanders 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@samsignorelli yeah, there's a recounting out there of the night they created the new ending from Bobby Hullett (DM). Basically, George Z would put people where he wanted them, Bobby would set the intervals and clean the form, then Todd Ryan would write it down on a chart.

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@BrianLanders All the more impressive when you realize George was dying at the time.

  • @bc022372
    @bc022372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I've seen only two DCI World Champions live and in person...2012 and 1991. I consider myself lucky to be able to witness Cross to Cross live!

  • @jasonstraight1320
    @jasonstraight1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    High cam view is highly underrated. Just a nice simple spectator view. Such a classic show here too. :)

    • @Jay-hp3tu
      @Jay-hp3tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and great camera work to cover it all! subtle but important

  • @TheKiman2
    @TheKiman2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I watch this show from time to time whenever I remember about it and it still gets me teary eyed at the cross to cross.

  • @awesomeboxlord
    @awesomeboxlord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I loved this show so much i learned the mello lick from the closer, and my brass instructor was wondering what I was playing (I later found out he marched this show, so now i want to learn all of the soprano part on the 3 valve dynasty i got)

    • @evanthe7634
      @evanthe7634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you happen to have music?

    • @awesomeboxlord
      @awesomeboxlord 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanthe7634 no, i learned it by ear, i could probably ask him if he still has it but it also has been over 30 years now

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll only use valve 1 and 2, tho. Star used the same brass choir in 94 they bought in 85...2 valve Kings.
      The K-20 sop was my fave axe ever...sooo glad I played one in BD.

    • @awesomeboxlord
      @awesomeboxlord 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samsignorelli i found out they marched 2 valved ones a bit later but yeah i found a lot of the stuff is just 1 and 2

  • @scott414b
    @scott414b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    ive never seen the high cam before......whoa and the crosses!!!! Zingalis masterpiece!

    • @fredking1040
      @fredking1040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Zingali was a true master. All this was created before software, etc. Just amazing to watch.

    • @jaydee-222
      @jaydee-222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The judge right in the middle of the cross transition!

    • @josephmcvinney7928
      @josephmcvinney7928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      High cam is great

    • @mebaran73
      @mebaran73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zingali was sick when he wrote this masterpiece. I believe he passed a year or two later. Some friends of mine marched Star in ‘91 and said Zingali didn’t even write the cross-to-cross down on paper. Drove the staff nuts.

    • @brianjungen4059
      @brianjungen4059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mebaran73 when I marched DCA Sunrisers in 1989 he came and rewrote the last half of our Rhapsody in Blue drill on the spot and drew some pictures in the dirt on the side and we learned it. The next week we had drill sheets. 🤣

  • @jacksonbrandenburg8882
    @jacksonbrandenburg8882 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the mellos and this drill was insane. absolute masterpiece😮‍💨

  • @joemaliga16
    @joemaliga16 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pretty perfect by any standard. Contemporary drum corps should watch and learn. No props or other junk on the field!

    • @RonBand01
      @RonBand01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They should but they won't. In that age you watched as they went form to form and you watched it build. Now they run to a spot, then stop and pop. They might have 5 singers on the sideline singing 4 part harmony plus the synthesizer shaping notes for them or, at a minimum, raising the bass by 10 decibels. Some people think that 2023 drum corp is so much better than 1991 or 1985 drum corp. I disagree.

  • @ministerquincymajor2030
    @ministerquincymajor2030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That opener like ...STAR IN THE blankity blanking HOUSE! Set the tune for an incredible show

  • @jeremymenning56
    @jeremymenning56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Saw this in Bloomington IN earlier that summer. It was my first DCI show ever. Imagine being 14 and this show caps your first ever DCI experience.
    Imagine indeed.

  • @carsongreen2001
    @carsongreen2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    this drill is insane

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      George Zingali's last show before his VERY untimely death. The Cross-to-Cross is his magnum opus.

    • @chrisbaker2059
      @chrisbaker2059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Written and taught on pencil and paper as well!

    • @veot.2869
      @veot.2869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. I saw this show a few times as I marched in division 3 in a midwest A60 corps. My jaw was dropped every time and I was a horn captain and soloist for my corps

  • @daveeyre2280
    @daveeyre2280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of the best shows ever and there have been so many brilliant shows - classic DCI

  • @TheHobbyist_76
    @TheHobbyist_76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man that percussion judge was everywhere dodging everything lol...

  • @as_sv9788
    @as_sv9788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Watching that perc judge work through zengali's genius might be the most impressive part of this performance.

  • @timber72
    @timber72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greatest 15 seconds of drill ever written. Cross. to. cross.

  • @dctrbrass
    @dctrbrass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow...I became a fan in the late 90s. I finally went back and watched this. Nice.

  • @pm8042
    @pm8042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was away from the activity and never got to see Star. I marched SCV76-82. This 91 Star show has to be one of my favorites of all time. Wow!!!! I wish I got to see them live

  • @k.coleman9317
    @k.coleman9317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The drill at 8:16...sublime...and amazing. That's a visual style we've lost...the drill as an evolutionary part of the show instead of just staging for the next stand-still scale feature.

  • @parseccentric
    @parseccentric 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think it's really great that the bottom right (Side 1 / Home) corner of the first cross ends up as the 50-yd front point of the second cross. It took me so many watches to trace their path backwards.

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually, the guy who ends the show on the 50 (right line of the vertical part of the cross...furthest forward of anyone) is the furthest to the right of the bottom line of the horizontal part of the 1st cross. He starts directly below the "o" in "bowl"

  • @mmarzett
    @mmarzett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These folks MOVED.

  • @jwillis9499
    @jwillis9499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Will always be the best ending ever.

  • @howarddunbar9497
    @howarddunbar9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To this day, still amazing !

  • @CollinWestland
    @CollinWestland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this show
    The closer is amazing.
    Thank you for the high cam.

  • @brothaNblue
    @brothaNblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had just celebrate my first birthday around this time.

  • @stewieuk1276
    @stewieuk1276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That drill was simply awesome! Fantastic horn book!

  • @drilldesigner
    @drilldesigner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is God speaking through Zingali's drill.

  • @danielbutcher5836
    @danielbutcher5836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Star of Indiana Mellophones (with accompanying brass, percussion, and color guard).

  • @pm8042
    @pm8042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First time seeing this. What a fkg incredible show!!!!

    • @nigelgreen3516
      @nigelgreen3516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This performance doesn't seem to get the recognition it deserves.Its up there with the best of DCi in that era.

  • @diegodebesa8384
    @diegodebesa8384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how absolutely unhinged this show is. Not to hate on the sport in it's current age, it just was a different time.

  • @omfgacceptmyname
    @omfgacceptmyname 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i think this has become my favorite show. sorry, cavs 2006!

  • @darrinthorpe9292
    @darrinthorpe9292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HERE IN 2022, AND STILL INSANE!!!!

  • @OldMoneyAudition09
    @OldMoneyAudition09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Godbless whomever uploaded this. This is a forgotten masterpiece of a show. I doubt any of these new corps could play and march like this. No speakers needed!

    • @scottallen1990
      @scottallen1990  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome, glad you are enjoying it

    • @brothaNblue
      @brothaNblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      OMG SHUT UP!!! Can't you just apriciate one without bashing the other.

    • @BlueShades152
      @BlueShades152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Today's corps do far more demanding things than this, so yeah, they could totally do this.

    • @MS-df2fk
      @MS-df2fk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlueShades152 What makes today's shows so much more demanding?

    • @brothaNblue
      @brothaNblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MS-df2fk There's lot more visual demand. Groups are becoming for more physical while still being expected to have good sound quality.

  • @bevbaird7765
    @bevbaird7765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the sound is brilliant!!

  • @chale1108
    @chale1108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:08 to 10:29 won it. I was there with 3 friends. Those mellophones and that drill... OMG... Sooooooo good.

  • @frenchchefkyle
    @frenchchefkyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw this live and it was incredible the video is great but does not do it justice

    • @Jay-hp3tu
      @Jay-hp3tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so jealous.

  • @warriors808
    @warriors808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my fav DCI shows front the 90’s. It was so innovative back then.

    • @Will-xq4zo
      @Will-xq4zo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      back then???.... there is no one today even attempting those exposed moves at the speeds they did them.
      Inside Zingali's mind must have been a beautiful place.

  • @funlovinguy-rz2yo
    @funlovinguy-rz2yo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they were still performing!!!! what a great show!!! that drill at the end of the show wow!!!

    • @jeffe_77
      @jeffe_77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are, as Carolina Crown 😉

  • @eljukavi
    @eljukavi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i know there are a lot of great drill design/writing out there today, but Zingali is still to me the GOAT

  • @thepogfrog2915
    @thepogfrog2915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    last minute and a half is the greatest drill ever written, ever, period. Miss these days of classic drum corp. Don't get me wrong the modern style is fun to watch and all, but the classic days of just intense drill just hit different.

    • @davidwarner3326
      @davidwarner3326 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic drum corps? The 90's? Hahahahaha (I just finished performing BTW and am probably in the post show huddle).

  • @SwimminWitDaFishies
    @SwimminWitDaFishies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's see 2023 corps pull off that drill

  • @jeffe_77
    @jeffe_77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:13 - 1:45 My other favorite part of the show

  • @justamaninTN
    @justamaninTN ปีที่แล้ว

    Mellos are just insane!

  • @alexanderlamb2659
    @alexanderlamb2659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent drill writing, good performance. It could have been cleaner. Star would be around if there staff's ego did not outgrow their ability. Star is now a fossil. Not a living breathing thing. It fails to impact performers. Thank you to the drum corps that did not outgrow their mission and leave their performers.

    • @StocksIn60Seconds
      @StocksIn60Seconds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it definitely could have been cleaner. I don’t think it holds up to today’s standards for sure, but damn, it’s still a classic.

    • @alexanderlamb2659
      @alexanderlamb2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StocksIn60Seconds Agreed! The drill was amazing and cutting edge. This is one of my favorite performances of all time; However, (going back to the staff's vanity) I remember some of Star's members restating their staff's complaints that they were not receiving the scores they "deserve" in 1992 and 1993... I just shook my head. Deserve? They went from the show in 1991 to 1992 and they thought that was going to do it? 1991 was imaginative and impressive and did not rely on pull on the heart strings of the patriotic (and this is coming from a former marine...). We all had our years that people liked our shows more or less. We all did the best we could with our parts. When I marched with the Cavaliers in 1994, I thought we were on fire... And then I saw the Blue Devils' show... The Cavaliers staff never said we got gypped or anything of the sort. You do the best with what you have every night and the cards fall as they may. This is not science; It's art. Thus, the outcome is in the eye of the beholder. I feel bad for Star's members. The tradition that they may have had died and today we only have memories. In my humble opinion, their staff failed them by derailing their members and going the way of the West... At least we can see them on TH-cam. Oh and thank you to the corps that participated the summer, while the others took the summer to pursue other projects. It was a tough decision, but for those that went through and took the high road, thank you indeed for carrying on the tradition that has lasted almost 50 years.

    • @NerdismOfficial
      @NerdismOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like Star’s thirst for attention sort of made them want to do something completely different, even if it meant departing the activity that brought them what they had. Hell, they would’ve consistently rivaled BD if they had just kept going as they were.

  • @fatovamingus
    @fatovamingus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine being such a driven genius that you could throw that second grass together on the road. I'm curious if anyone is able to point out the religious symbols in the drill I have only gotten three of them right I think

  • @jaydee-222
    @jaydee-222 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally worth watching at 2x speed

  • @squillz8310
    @squillz8310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard many differing tales about the Cross-to-Cross drill at the end of this show. Does anyone know the true story?
    I've heard things like it was just random drill to get them from one cross to the other. I've also heard they put it together in the last 3ish weeks of tour. But I don't know if any of that is true.

    • @jamink2068
      @jamink2068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true

    • @alansmith2162
      @alansmith2162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DCI did an hour long restrospective on Star 1991. The story of how this move came about is told in that show. th-cam.com/video/DK77AAFzYEo/w-d-xo.html

  • @onfirepro
    @onfirepro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you get a high cam? I only have the legacy DVD with multicam. Can you still get these somehow? 1991 in high cam only? That would be incredible!

    • @scotta4527
      @scotta4527 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was from the DVD the alumni association was selling, it had a bonus high cam version

  • @deverelarington4149
    @deverelarington4149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:21 - 4:42 Wow they were hauling

    • @natehollenbeck6348
      @natehollenbeck6348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro check out the closer to crown 2011

    • @omariparker3769
      @omariparker3769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@natehollenbeck6348 Bro this show has 20 years on Crown 2011! 😁

    • @jeffe_77
      @jeffe_77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@natehollenbeck6348 Bro, the point is that this was done when most of the crown members weren’t even born yet. Side note, one of the sopranos is Matt Harloff

    • @dctrbrass
      @dctrbrass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the contras w/ that big sound right there too woohoo

    • @dwaterson21
      @dwaterson21 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crown 2012 is another ass-hauling moment of DCI history, God damn

  • @brendanmeckler8911
    @brendanmeckler8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean... goddamn. what can you even say lol

  • @rickm6335
    @rickm6335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That looks like an insane cardio workout. For anyone who was in the corps, is getting accepted both a physical and talent requirement, or do they work around the extremely talented people to make the workout less rigorous.

    • @erroneous3493
      @erroneous3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you have to at least be able to run a mile without stopping if you want to be in a top 12 corp

    • @BACcontrabass
      @BACcontrabass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Back when I marched (Boston Crusaders in 2000 and 2001) a 1 mile run was just part of our morning stretch block. I started the season at 290lbs and barely able to run a mile without keeling over, finished at 255lbs and running a 7:30 mile. That difference happened during 2.5 months. If you’re interested in marching corps, being in good cardio shape is highly recommended to make your experience a positive one.

    • @feverpa
      @feverpa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I marched in Star the year before this. I don't remember there being any kind of "test," but if you couldn't keep up, you certainly weren't invited back as the camps went on. As mentioned below, running at least a mile was just part of the long morning physical warm up. I always hated running, but if someone is in "decent" shape, the work you do helps you get into the top physical shape you need to be in. In other words - be in as good a shape as you can be, but doing the work during tryouts will help you get in shape for sure.

    • @erroneous3493
      @erroneous3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      feverpa dude that show had the best company front ever. Better than any cadets show. Respect.

    • @feverpa
      @feverpa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      interesting story about the final move of the show, just after that company front. The move you see is simple and safe. (12 counts) Earlier in the season it was a George Zingali death trap. The contras to my left went almost 90 degrees right, big steps and spreading out slightly. The mellos (at least a few of us) pushed forward to break out of the front, then left, arcing BACKWARDS blindly passing through a gap in the contras that was moving fast to the right as we went backwards through it. As you can imagine, the contras flying to their right can’t see us. We can’t see behind us. I about got decapitated a few times by a contra bell.

  • @bruincs1
    @bruincs1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the 15 DCI finals I've attended through the years. (mostly 80's & early 2000's) They were definitely favored and deserved to win, but honestly the guard work was a let down, especially the final flag change work. Sorry, not sorry. lol

  • @virgillayne5
    @virgillayne5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hohum drill design. Cavvies was so much better that year.

  • @richeyrich
    @richeyrich ปีที่แล้ว

    the terrible progressives on the extreme far left would cancel this show.

  • @tomshea8382
    @tomshea8382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still like what Quasar did with Respighi better.