Feels like there were at least 3 blown calls that went against Chicago there. I think there were two fouls that should have been upheld and then that one obviously 'down' throw.
@@owensinger7288 "Rowan went around him and lightly grazed his body" are you kidding!? Watch it again. Rowan's hips (centre-mass) are impacting the middle of his back. That is a flagrant foul by Rowan.
Saw this game right after "La Fotta vs Moon"..... The spirit and the way the game was extremely intense but highly respected game sense.... And this shitty final with so many dangerous plays. God damn.....
American ultimate is a different animal than European ultimate. The sport is not the same as it was 10-20 years ago. Everyone is just better than before. Especially in the highly competitive US college scene, with monster O lines like Darkside, the culture has shifted to a more aggressive and "biddy" playstyle to be able to get the advantage. Like it or not I think this is here to stay. I think the issue with this final in particular was the boys in orange.
the problem isn't the bids themselves, it's that people feel entitled to make whatever bid they want and contest a foul instead of make a play with the knowledge that if they fuck it up they'll probably foul, and then uphold the foul. i've made that chasedown block play rowan tried tons of times but if i don't jump vertically and hit the disc on the way up and instead jump forward into the receiver it's gonna be a foul every time @@mikerodgers7535
The US consistently showing anti examples of self control and SOTG. Sad that the ones who have represented Ultimate to the whole world for so long are ruining the game. Ultimate is supposed to be more than just a sport, it's supposed to be a way of becoming better humans building Emotional Intelligence. Sad to see immature boys like the kid at 4:15 and such horrible calls from the refs.
i wouldn't go so far as to say we're ruining the game but unfortunately some egos have grown with the sport. thankfully college in the us is in my experience a different story. at least youth coaches are by and large setting good examples so hopefully the next generation won't be as chippy
@@stephensilides5634 Been playing in the USA for 20+ years, and. . . We are not ruining it - we are simply failing to compete the right way decade after decade while most of the rest of the world appears to be competing with better spirit than we are and moving on. It is sad and disappointing to see the USA failing in this way. The awful problems associated with self-officiating have been around for decades - and only at high level competitions, as can be seen here and in many other places. We here in the USA invented this sport, and we should be leaders in SOTG, not using the rules opportunistically for the purpose of gaining competitive advantage. Are we ruining the game? Nope. Are we playing at high levels the way we should with great spirit? Also, nope. And even worse, HD video shows not only dangerous plays and bad calls, but bad SOTG too.
the excessive spikes of the disc which seems to be accepted now a days and the acceptance of physicality to "evolve" in a different path.. at this point one wonders are we moving to a point where USA ultimate vs Rest of World ultimate.. essentially a different sport?... Granted.. I would say that its really limited to high level ultimate.. Had several players that play club/AUDL regularly come play a pretty decent level pickup get called out for their excessive physicality.. they immediately knew they were in the wrong and cut out the shenanigans..
I think its time for refs. Plays are getting too contentious at this high a level. No one wants to lose no matter the cost, I think it'd be best for everyone if there were refs when it comes to this high a level. Also they need to be checking the tapes on those close of calls.
I appreciate the highlight video, but I'm downvoting. Please stop glorifying the guy who got a red card for pushing someone else. You are completely undermining the spirit of the game when you grant so much time and fame to a guy who pushed a dude and got carded for it.
Appreciate the perspective, but I don't think I'm glorifying him. Someone being ejected and having to leave the field for parts of each game was one of the most wild things I've ever seen in ultimate. I would be remiss if I didn't include it, and it's fallout, in the highlights.
@@HighQualityBanter_ Hey, I understand showing it, but getting excited about it is pathological and bad for the sport in every way. You are doing something wrong.
@@danieljohnson309 Doing something wrong? these highlights not only show the best plays but honestly are similar to how the NBA does their highlights of every game where they also show the story of the game. The plays are more meaningful when you see the context and whats at stake. the ejection was a major factor of the semis and the finals. it would be a disservice of anyone watching this recap to not know and see what was happening.
Feels like there were at least 3 blown calls that went against Chicago there. I think there were two fouls that should have been upheld and then that one obviously 'down' throw.
So true
sad to see so many fouls (some with poor spirit) and multiple blown calls by the observers, really undermines the sport
Is this the first competitive ultimate game you've ever seen? This was precisely normal for a competitive game.
7:11 “score you coward” proceeds to score not even a second after
Man some of those observer calls were atrocious. Either add instant video review or take away their power to overturn calls
Terrible observer ruling
Rowan making up stories out there @6:35
Thanks for posting these! That was a messy first half!
#justiceforDiG
omg the 'free johnny' gimmicks, i can't hahahah.. thanks for the highlights, HQB!
How is 6:35 not considered a foul on Rowan?
"You put your foot out and kind of flopped"... I don't think Rowan is playing the same game here.
Pretty clear foul lol
the contact did not effect the guys ability to catch the disc, rowan went around him and lightly grazed his body
Definitely a foul. He crushed the offender, who was set and boxing out, in order to go straight over his back for the block. Bad observer ruling.
@@owensinger7288 "Rowan went around him and lightly grazed his body" are you kidding!? Watch it again. Rowan's hips (centre-mass) are impacting the middle of his back. That is a flagrant foul by Rowan.
Disc was down 4:38 😕
agreed.
you are right, but it was really difficult to see
i didn't think it was that hard to see @@user-zg4lp4ep4t
The blown fouls really fucked that game.
Saw this game right after "La Fotta vs Moon".....
The spirit and the way the game was extremely intense but highly respected game sense....
And this shitty final with so many dangerous plays. God damn.....
American ultimate is a different animal than European ultimate. The sport is not the same as it was 10-20 years ago. Everyone is just better than before. Especially in the highly competitive US college scene, with monster O lines like Darkside, the culture has shifted to a more aggressive and "biddy" playstyle to be able to get the advantage. Like it or not I think this is here to stay. I think the issue with this final in particular was the boys in orange.
SOTG in a self governed competition was what set ultimate apart from other team sports. This game fell behind those standards in many ways.
the problem isn't the bids themselves, it's that people feel entitled to make whatever bid they want and contest a foul instead of make a play with the knowledge that if they fuck it up they'll probably foul, and then uphold the foul. i've made that chasedown block play rowan tried tons of times but if i don't jump vertically and hit the disc on the way up and instead jump forward into the receiver it's gonna be a foul every time @@mikerodgers7535
HBQ dropping the heat!
Classic US versions of body contact…😅
Mute audio, turn on some music and enjoying the show
With discussion mics turning it back on :)
The US consistently showing anti examples of self control and SOTG. Sad that the ones who have represented Ultimate to the whole world for so long are ruining the game. Ultimate is supposed to be more than just a sport, it's supposed to be a way of becoming better humans building Emotional Intelligence. Sad to see immature boys like the kid at 4:15 and such horrible calls from the refs.
i agree 4:15 is very annoying -- and i think it was a foul too.
i wouldn't go so far as to say we're ruining the game but unfortunately some egos have grown with the sport. thankfully college in the us is in my experience a different story. at least youth coaches are by and large setting good examples so hopefully the next generation won't be as chippy
@@stephensilides5634 Been playing in the USA for 20+ years, and. . . We are not ruining it - we are simply failing to compete the right way decade after decade while most of the rest of the world appears to be competing with better spirit than we are and moving on. It is sad and disappointing to see the USA failing in this way. The awful problems associated with self-officiating have been around for decades - and only at high level competitions, as can be seen here and in many other places. We here in the USA invented this sport, and we should be leaders in SOTG, not using the rules opportunistically for the purpose of gaining competitive advantage. Are we ruining the game? Nope. Are we playing at high levels the way we should with great spirit? Also, nope. And even worse, HD video shows not only dangerous plays and bad calls, but bad SOTG too.
the excessive spikes of the disc which seems to be accepted now a days and the acceptance of physicality to "evolve" in a different path.. at this point one wonders are we moving to a point where USA ultimate vs Rest of World ultimate.. essentially a different sport?... Granted.. I would say that its really limited to high level ultimate.. Had several players that play club/AUDL regularly come play a pretty decent level pickup get called out for their excessive physicality.. they immediately knew they were in the wrong and cut out the shenanigans..
@@Mellowyellow8888USA and Canada
Are you going to upload anything from Women's or Mixed?
Yes! I'm working on it, but its not a quick process. Sorry for the delay.
@@HighQualityBanter_ Create a donation link, I'd love to support your work
Connor McHale got robbed
imagine winning european clubs AND USA clubs nationals in the same year, that would've been sick
7:21 Coach in hospital?? which coach? what happened?
No joke they said the machine coach got attacked by a stray dog the night before
@@julianbaxandall9338 damn wow
I think its time for refs. Plays are getting too contentious at this high a level. No one wants to lose no matter the cost, I think it'd be best for everyone if there were refs when it comes to this high a level. Also they need to be checking the tapes on those close of calls.
Instant classic
ngl a lot of bad calls
See also: every open game at nationals ever
@@flyingdics1 true
I appreciate the highlight video, but I'm downvoting. Please stop glorifying the guy who got a red card for pushing someone else. You are completely undermining the spirit of the game when you grant so much time and fame to a guy who pushed a dude and got carded for it.
Appreciate the perspective, but I don't think I'm glorifying him.
Someone being ejected and having to leave the field for parts of each game was one of the most wild things I've ever seen in ultimate. I would be remiss if I didn't include it, and it's fallout, in the highlights.
@@HighQualityBanter_ Agreed. For better or worse, it's a central part of the story of this game.
@@HighQualityBanter_ Hey, I understand showing it, but getting excited about it is pathological and bad for the sport in every way. You are doing something wrong.
@@danieljohnson309 Doing something wrong? these highlights not only show the best plays but honestly are similar to how the NBA does their highlights of every game where they also show the story of the game. The plays are more meaningful when you see the context and whats at stake. the ejection was a major factor of the semis and the finals. it would be a disservice of anyone watching this recap to not know and see what was happening.
@@salilgupta9427 I doubt that that little scuffle made the game more attractive to much of anyone.