SECURITY DO NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND THE LAW ON DRONE FLYING. BECAUSE OF THIS AND THEIR INHERANT WISH FOR CITIZENS TO GAIN PERMISSION ON ALL MATTERS SO THEY HAVE CONTROL. OVER THE PUBLIC There desire to involve the police is a waste of public funds and takes manpower away from say BURGLERIES. WHY OH WHY DO THE POLICE FEEL THEY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN LEGAL ACTIVITY LIKE DRONE FLYING. WHAT NEXT "THE CONKER POLICE" HAVE you got protective eye glasses, insurance, a certificate of COMPITANCE and CONKER LICENCE.
Absolutely Brilliant Comment Mate 🤗 i will Pin this so @ Top of comments as 💯 correct about everything, i really thought Police Scotland would have came out & warned this business to rethink their policy of wasting Tax Payer money by involving Police for a Member of publc doing a lawful thing by flying a drone but No the male Police officer had an attitude from start & would like to know how id of been treated if didnt have GoPro on, i suppose Tyrants will always have same attitude & Thought process as this Tyrant Business policy 😩👍🏻🏴
Well said mate, believe or not but this was my 1st police attendance in over 11 months ive been doing Audits, i wanted to prove these guys were in wrong for wasting police time and when a clueless about drone officer turned up i thought “ok ill let him have operator ID” but wasnt budging if he asks my name” 😯👍🏻🏴
Watch Pure Audits latest and see how he dealt with same. Police weren't satisfied until he produced printed legislation from his bag showing why he didn't need to provide the ID.
Brilliant Comment mate & thanks for notifying me of this as will be useful for my Future Interactions with Police Scotland, this officer had no clues in drone laws he even thought i was suppose to have a novelty laminated card with my operator ID on it that you buy off ebay & with me being the only drone auditor up here im defo going to get more of this from them 😃👍🏻🏴
Just found your page & subscribed. Very good audit & I love how plod demand your name & operator ID twice, but then just walk away. Guess he didn’t need it that much. Then they wonder why they have no trust from the public !!!
Thanks for subscribing mate 🤗yeah very Tyrant attitude demanding my name especially when doing nothing wrong, i shouldnt of gave my operator ID but was willing to try work with police @ 1st due to this business thinking its ok to call them and waste tax payers money as part of their protocols for a drone doing a lawful flight over their business, but guy who turned up and had no clue about drones and being honest i didnt like his tone with me as it seemed he was talking to me as if i was breaking the law 😥👍🏻🏴
You can go a walk through the old Nobel site it was once the largest explosives factory in the world, the two chimneys were for the coal powered power station. You could spend a full day exploring the area and not see all the bunkers .
Thats handy to know as will be back in that area at some point as never flew Chopper over another near by business due to Chemring wasting Police time on me flying over here, so be good to have a wee explore and make a day of it, thanks again 😃👍🏻🏴
Yeah im aware if this mate but if Police are clever enough there is a loophole were they can ask for your operator ID but this officer was clueless on the Drone law he even thought it was should have a laminated card from some cheap ebay seller with my operator ID on it , experience of this makes me stronger next time as this was my 1st time police actually attending 1 of my videos since i started making them over 11 months ago 😯👍🏻🏴
Thanks Mate 🤗 starting tomorrow i will also be using a zoom camera to see a more true reaction from businesses as fair play to most ive visited have been great & met loads of nice staff & management only a small number who claim they own the air etc have acted like a total 🔔🔚 and showed their true colours 😃👍🏻🏴
The Grass security manager said we have cctv of him taking drone off as i walked up to police car cant hear him properly in video, there is a loop hole if fly drone then all police can check and take note of operator ID, this officer had no experience with drones he also expected my name like tyrants do 😥👍🏻🏴
Yeah i didnt check around the back but it looked wide open i could if came up that way or just took drone up from there and they be none the wiser, when i do go back in that area to do any businesses near by will purposely fly into their yard again for an update in what they are building and just to prove they dont own the air 😃👍🏻🏴
Great nice to see a Scottish auditor, Especially in Scotland, where the behaviour of police Scotland has eroded public opinion so much they have no supporters in a jury (You know citizens who have history OF their terrible behaviour with members of the public)
Thanks mate, yeah we need more auditors up here and due to me currently being the only one im going to be the guinea pig on how they react especially how i cover from west to east across the Central Belt plus will be going up North soon for a few videos, its also shocking they dont wear body cams as they know they can say and do what they want without one 😯👍🏻🏴
Thanks mate🤗Yeah its a good thing its not what they think and the laws they ate suppose to serve & protect otherwise id of been locked up for doing a lawful flight 😟👍🏻🏴
Is that another example of an operator id being recorded illegally? You have to show it, but they can't make a record of it unless a crime's been committed. I don't think the cops are getting the interpretation right.
Well said mate normally when Police demand this showing it should be enough 😢 there is 1 thing that does confuse me regarding drone laws as it also states the Police can also ask a Drone flyer can be asked to prove he has the right credentials to fly, i will look into this more especially how this officer thought he had a right to demand my ID which i thought “fair enough i will give them it but not my name” & straight away he demand my name 🥲 typical tyrant behaviour which i was refusing to give as i had done everything lawful 🤪👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland That confusion relates to larger drones if you are carrying out a flight that requires certain credentials to do that operation, for a sub 250 drone you only need to be 13 years of age or older. You don't need a flyer or operator ID as long as the drone is registered to someone with an operator ID. And you are correct telling that sleezy looking cop that you don't get a card, it's online at the CAA site, they do not issue cards or certificates, if you're a member of an association like like FPV you can pay for a card if you want one but not a legal requirement.
Thanks mate, yeah his attitude was off with me from the word go and dont think he was too impressed when i said i was recording saying that i didnt like his tone when demanding my name so imagine what he would of been like if i wasn’t recording 😟👍🏻🏴
They’re too afraid to utilise them 🥷🥷👮🆘🎬🎬 Just look at how many criminal police the Auditors have exposed Nationwide 👮🤮🤮🤮 Plus uneducated Security managers 🧨🧨🧨 who agrees it’s legal and calls the law 🙄🙄🙄
Thanks Mate 🤗 Just subbed back hadn’t seen your channel even though I constantly watch other Auditors 🙈 TH-cam algorithm really should aim our videos @ the correct viewers but never does lol 😃👍🏻🏴🇮🇪
@Droneauditsscotland The algorithm is weird bro. Maybe it's anti Scottish and anti irish 🏴🇮🇪.. I'll be tuned in. Loving the 1st few. Don't expect much from mine, it's just me shouting at people at times🏴☠️😜
Thanks Mate 🤗 Everybody does their vids slightly different also good to see how some interactions go as know we will end up with the same situation with ours, will have a good wee look through yours mate, yeah my accent defo not liked by the algorithm 😜👍🏻🏴🇮🇪
What a great video mate honestly one of the best for interaction. That manager of security did not have a clue about anything he was absolutely hopeless! As for the police there hopeless aswell I think Saltcoats police need to get up to date with the laws. It’s shocking the way that they demand your operator ID. That video was a 10/10 mate 👍
Thanks Mate your comment put a massive smile on my face ☺️ yeah the police man did not have a clue and i didnt like his tone of voice either when he was demanding my name, their is a loophole when police check to make sure you have all the correct info for flying a drone they can take note, have noticed it happening more and more with auditors down south recently, the police had no clue and was telling me i should be buying a laminated card off ebay as if it was illegal that i hadnt, no doubt will be seeing Police again shortly as will now be using a zoom camera especially after that staff member approaching as i used camera for 7 seconds to film the barrier it really annoyed him 🤪👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland Focus Pocus has a solution to the drone ID problem. Split it & put half the number on top & the other half side or bottom. They won't get it in 1 pic.
Will look into this as i need to do something otherwise im going to get this more and more often especially how Police Scotland are not used to Auditors up here and im going to be a guinea pig until we get a few more, thanks for the info 😃👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland Police Scotland don't do law. They misinterpret or make it up. Read the Carloway Policing Review, PSOS Codes of Practice & Conduct. Sec 10 Police & Fire Reform & Criminal Procedure Acts. Keep a copy of relevant parts to read to them. Do that, they have no excuse for abusing position.
@@BiggyD80s What law does this "Entitled" appear in? Is it superior to, for example, your right to privacy & your constitutional right to "FULL FREEDOM of passage, trade & navigation between ports & places throughout UK"? If it's already been used successfully, explain how it "won't work"?
Thanks mate, great finding out info on the places i visit, i went past it on bike and thought it looked like an old hospital as has fencing all round it as if abandoned 😃👍🏻🏴
Yeah this is a big concern for me especially being the only Drone Auditor up here as i do think im going to get Police when called out clueless every time as Police Scotland obviously dont teach their officers the law regarding Drones 🙈👍🏻🏴
@bluebearphotography sounds a plan mate as i keep trying to tempt others as need more Scottish Auditors (too many businesses for 1 person) plus be good to overlap and visit places that 1 of us did come across any tyrants, facebook message or email me mate 😃👍🏻🏴
Brilliant video mate 👌👍...does the guy in the white car no realise everywhere he goes wether it's walking down the street, in shops... anywhere, he's getting filmed..😂😂..so much happened in this video for you...well handled...👍🙂🏴
Thanks mate, im still annoyed that i had to let the police take a photo of my operator ID, there is 1 law i read if flying a Drone and police want proof that you have operator ID they can take note of it, this was 1st time the police have attended 1 of my audits so experience will make me stronger for next time and i do think Police Scotland wont have much of a clue on the rules especially with not many auditors up here so kinda being a guinea pig for them lol plus will be using zoom camera from now on so i guess it wont be the last Police attendance 🤪👍🏻🏴
There is a loop hole that police can check that you have right credentials to fly a drone, also seen dje media get caught out with this and have to show his operator ID as well as DJ & PJ audits recently but thats really for clued up or Drone police officers to use this tactic, this officer had no clue as he was telling me i show pay someone on ebay for a novelty card that laminates my operator Id 😯👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland aye i’ve seen them mate, showing is not recording though, so when they get their phones out hide it. Because it will just end up on a database somewhere. They can see with their eyes 👍🏻
@SensibleCentrist yeah will do mate been reading up more on it and had email from a few of our friends down south (Auditors) saying only let them take note of it when they threaten with arrest this way i expose Tyrant behaviour as well as can put in an official complaint against the officer if wanted 😃👍🏻🏴
nice interaction well done, have subscribed. just a word of warning i notice you have a skin on your sub 250g drone, by putting the skin on you could now be potentially over the limit by 2 or 3 grams and breaking the law you might want to pop it on some scales to check or risk having your drone confiscated by a smart cop. fly safe
Thanks for Subscribing, yeah mate if you look Closely @ Chopper (Drone) i have only managed to put 75% of skin on due to the weight, when i did change over to Mini 4 i mentioned the weight issue i was having with skin, had to change propeller back etc as i do have Lime once as well but they were heavier, yeah i always anticipated i might get a Drone cop 🤗👍🏻🏴
Thanks Assi 🤗Yeah wasnt a nice tone when the officer was demanding my name and operator ID was talking to me like a criminal, just glad i had my go pro on as he was gunning for me from his very 1st words saying “didnt care about social media” he should as now on it and thumbnail as well 🤪👍🏻🏴
The security manager was embarrassing and needs to understand that his ‘concern’ for an activity that is legal is irrelevant. The male cop would benefit from having a friendlier approach as he was a right miserable looking sod (especially when dealing with a non crime).
Thanks for your Great Comment Debra, yeah straight from the off the Male officer was negative towards me and as if i was a Criminal for doing a non crime event. The Security Manager admitted he flys a Drone himself so he knew more than better that shouldn’t be wasting Police time but due to the Tyrant Business protocols they obviously think its ok to waste Tax Payers Emergency Services as they dont like it if a Member of the public flys a small drone over their business & if was so top secret & a security concern then the CAA would of issued a no fly zone (FRZ) 🤔👍🏻
Is it not a prohibited place under the National Security Act 2023? None of the prohibited places are listed on drone assist yet and might never be. Police powers under that act are pretty far reaching.
Yeah your 💯 correct mate, there is a new law just came out though which is totally baffling regarding National Security just give Tyrants more powers 😮 not that this officer knew anything with Drone Laws he must of been off Sick that day when doing his training 😜👍🏻🏴
Thanks Mate 🤗 yeah i was stupid to think that Police Scotland would of came and pulled up this business for wasting Tax Paying services & Police Time but of course Tyrants will see a Tyrants point of view, Good Comment mate 😃👍🏻🏴
Looks like this is going to be a massive site once they complete it Edit maybe they will have a no fly zone once it's built. To be fair the old power plant and gate house was the most interesting bits
Yeah it was the power plant that attracted me to the site in 1st place, i was so gutted when i put the drone up and thats all there was to see, i really thought was going to see something cool, top secret due to the way security were all acting especially when they wasted Tax Payers money phoning the police for just that 😥👍🏻🏴
I know its hard but please watch and re-watch Focus Pocus and ACE audits with how they handle situations and work on your articulation of your arguments. You started looking for confrontation with the guard that didn’t speak to you, not a good look mate. Please dont turn into a Laughing Auditor or DJE type where they just look for trouble, stick to the core belief of PINAC. You left without telling security they were wrong tho , shouldne have scampered so quickly 🤣 Hope you see this is a good critique, your video’s are still class 💪🏻
Yeah i made a few mistakes here and although ive been doing audits for 11 months i was still learning how to deal with police interactions as this was my 1st one they have attended since i started. I communicate with ACE Audits so will also get their thought process on what i do wrong, and your right i was looking for a reaction due to mins early the baldy guard attitude annoyed me which normally doesn’t happen it was just the way he said “none of your business” when i was asking him a genuine question slightly annoyed me 🙈 all points are noted mate and know and welcome criticism especially if im the the one making mistakes 😯👍🏻🏴
Does anyone know where we can print of official usable documents that can given to Police showing there not entitled to take a note of your Operators ID unless a crime or suspected crime . Seem to remember DJ audit had been prepared for this in a folder . Don't know if scottish law is diffrent to English . Can't find his Video.. Just a thought!
I have seen Dj audits & DJE Media letting police take a note of their operator ID recently, pure audits did have a leaflet that he said in video he printed off a Gov website so i commented on his video twice and the 1st time he deleted my comment which is very unusual for a Auditor to delete another auditors comment but someone else commented he got lifted in his video that he put down his battery ran out at end, so im not sure if there is a document but if you do come across one mate please let me know j will also reply to this comment thread if i do come across one but when i studied the laws the police Yes can only ask to see your operator ID if they suspect you of a crime but another section of the drone law says an officer of the law is aloud to check you have correct credentials to fly 🤷♂️ which would require seeing and taking note of operator Id, until i get such piece of information im just going to have to refuse until threatened with arrest , scottish law is just the same i had to double check that with me being the only drone Auditor up here, we need more and im trying to encourage others to start as right now im a guinea pig for the police up here especially how i go to different areas 😯👍🏻
@@Droneauditsscotland Can just see how will play out Police will try to bully stating they are entitled to having ur Op ID or the threat of arrest or seasing drone
Thanks ☺️ Im not so sure this is why in trying to encourage more Scottish Auditors as im going to be a guinea pig when the Police get phoned out as they dont know the Drone Rules 🥲👍🏻🏴
Yeah this guy caught me off guard and couldn’t believe how silly he was to come up to me as i was wearing a GoPro complaining i filmed his car meaning he now be in my video lol 😃👍🏻🏴
Security manager is spot on, you could inform him of the weight of your drone for him to inform the police if you have any concerns about wasting police time not that you have to. But it lets the police know you are not just some fellah that’s bought a drone and is out on a jolly.
The security manager also flys drones himself he knew that there was No FRZ in place, the issue was they did not want me flying a drone with camera he states this in video
Securities' jurisdiction ends the moment they go onto public land. So him asking for your details is laughable. He just didn't get that the company doesn't own the air🤦🏼♀ He claimed he wanted to "work with you" yet he called the plod before you even flew the drone! Basically it's a building site, so where the heck did all those staff come from? Why did you let the plod take a photo of your operator ID? You weren't breaking the law.
Yeah the guy flys drones himself so he dam well knew i could fly over legally but due to the TYRANT Business (Chemring) they think its ok to just waste Emergency Services resources which are paid by the Tax Payer as they dont like a guy turning up outside site and flying a drone over, i never got to do the other business which was there because waited too long on the Police but when do go back will make sure Chopper flys over their yard for an update on construction and to prove they dont own the air . Yeah the officer was totally clueless on drone laws according to him i have to but a novelty laminated card made by some random on ebay to show my operator ID (WTF) i thought if i showed him my operator ID they maybe be on my side and told the business not to waste police time but No as soon as i gave him it he demanded my name but he was never getting that, but lesson learned no point giving these Tyrants anything as they always try get more 😟👍🏻🔔
It might be prudent to carry a hard copy of the drone legislation with the relevent passages highlighted to show the Police goons which might enable you to give them a harder time. Good video though, keep up the good work.
Thanks Mate 🤗 yeah after this video i research the drone laws again looking for apart of the law that’s simplifies as im going to get this time and time again with Police Scotland officers not having a clue on the law, its all double dutch and if was to print it out of the section ive read it wouldn’t help much, im still looking though as i am acting like a guinea pig up here, great comment😃👍🏻🏴
Yeah he kept just saying that plus he admitted that he was a drone flyer himself so knew the Protocols the Company went by were not “Fit for Purpose” but still they phoned Police and waste Tax payers Money as they dont want a Member of Public flying over their the Land, doesn’t help when get a clueless Policeman who has already decided with his own Judgement that i was the Bad Guy before he even spoke to me 😯👍🏻🏴
Yeah that is a true fact his thought process on matter was irrelevant, the law that hes suppose to protect & serve is what matters but unfortunately he must of dogged class when it was about drone laws 😃👍🏻🏴
I didnt see them at time are they on their site or the land next door @ abandoned power station, will be going back to area so be worth looking at the bunkers 😃👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland they are there site ..they have another gate out towards the way you would have came in..its not open for access .they have a brand new building round at that side..pretty high tech inside ..they use the bunkers for testing ..thats why they have there own quarry like bit ..its sand for blast testing .
@richiedee75 great info mate and be worth another fly over when visiting the business near by, lol no doubt they are reading these comments so will keep them on their toes knowing i will be back @ anytime 🤗👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland haha yeah they probably will be..at the end of the day you wernt braking any laws. If it was that much of a secret it would have no fly zone and cops as the security.they have only recently updated the security barriers abd turnstile to get onto site..they must have a new contract with all the construction work going on.ps.that cop was a complete bell 🔔 end .totally treated you with disrespect in my opinion...the fact they called the cops got you lots of views 👍🤣keep up the good work mate 👏
There is a loop hole in which police can obtain your operator ID just for flying Drone to make sure you have the correct credentials to fly lawfully, even likes of DJ, DJE have let Police take note of their Operator ID & i have Spoken with another well known UK Auditor on this matter, your right i should not of let him photo my operator ID is this occasional but if a clued up officer on Drone laws hits me with correct section them i and all auditors need to show it, this officer was clueless he even thought i should have one of they novelty laminated plastic cards with my operator ID for Law 🙈 this was 1st time Police actually attended one of my audits so have learned not to give it to them unless they hit me with the correct section next time 😃👍🏻🏴
@jimmygodfrey4119 yeah i studied the drone laws and been confused with how the way its written contradicts itself as basically Police can ask you for your operator ID i also found out under that same section they can ask you for name etc but they do need to state under what section of law it is or do not need to provide it , the laws are not written very clear and thats why Police will be clueless on the matter as i dont imagine many will study and seek correct protocols before they are in a situation involving an auditor, unless i get a Police officer who is part of the Drone department or the officer who attends is in direct contact with the Drone team I shouldn’t have to let them take a note of it going forward unless they threaten me with arrest which then is a totally different issue for them as then will look into compensation for them abusing powers, didnt know all this at time but been updated since talking it over with a fellow auditor 😃👍🏻🏴
Thanks Mate for the Info 🤗 I didn’t know that, I take it ICI did the same sort of work then and probably same company and staff as before change change of name for other reasons 🤔👍🏻🏴
Yeah have spoke with other auditors over this & will wait until threat of arrest before grudgingly let them take note then put a complaint in straight after, there is a loophole in the drone laws that contradicts itself as states “an officer of the law can ask to check your credentials to fly drone” but thats really only for Police that are clued up on drone laws and this officer clearly was clueless as he even stated at 1 point that i should carry a novelty laminated card with my operator ID with me like you get from ebay of a random seller, i did think the police were going to pull the business up for wasting tax payers money with part of their protocols as dont like a member of public lawfully flying a drone over their business, but as you see in video this was not the case after all Tyrants will agree with Tyrants 😟👍🏻🏴
Yeah he defo looks like a Beggie from trainspotting 🤣🤣, his attitude was off with me from the start, certainly didnt talk to me like i was the one doing a lawful event 😯 it should of been the security Manager he spoke in that tone for wasting Tax payers money & that the manager also admitted he flys drones himself so he knew dam well i was being totally lawful 😯👍🏻🏴
Not many people auditing the Police stations in Scotland like they do in the rest of UK, why is that? are there different laws that prevent it in Scotland?
The site that makes or connections to military should be a no fly zone and if not should be respected and in my opinion you should not fly over ! For the simple reason these facilities are all targets in this current climate
Don't show cops the operators ID so they can record it...they only get it is you ate suspected of a crime. No name or ID required to be given for the same reason !!
Yeah this was my 1st attendance with Police during my Audits, spoke with other auditors about the loophole that clued up Police officers can check that have correct credentials to fly drone but this officer was clueless and i did give operator ID to easy, next time i will wait til threatened with arrest and then put complaint in if they do push me all the way 😃👍🏻🏴
I think DJ audits has a strip of tape across his operator id on his drone. I believe the law is you must have one and it must be displayed on the drone. If they ask to see it then it is only to check that it is displayed on the drone so they could establish who owns it should it come down or damage something. Then you only have to give the id once a crime has been committed along with your name. No crime no id or name. 👍
Yeah have to agree on this one as they think its ok to Have protocols in place that waste Tax Paying Services to attend site for someone flying a small drone lawfully just because they dont like it 😥👍🏻🏴
Noted me, was basically wanting to prove a point that i was doing nothing wrong the police do have a loop hole were they can ask for a note if your operator ID in proof that you are aloud to fly drone although this officer didnt have a clue on drone laws and was just demanding all information, can tell in his tone of voice that he was treating me as a bad guy 😟👍🏻🏴
Yeah im aware if this mate but if Police are clever enough there is a loophole were they can ask for your operator ID but this officer was clueless on the Drone law he even thought it was should have a laminated card from some cheap ebay seller with my operator ID on it , experience of this makes me stronger next time as this was my 1st time police actually attending 1 of my videos since i started making them over 11 months ago 😯👍🏻🏴
There is a power that police can obtain your operator ID but they have to state the actual section of the law for me to have to let them take note of it. your right i did know about the loophole how police can get it but not that they have to actually say the section of law that states this to me and you can tell in this video the officer had no clue on drones he even thought i should have paid an random ebay seller for a novelty laminated card with my operator ID on jt 🙈 Have spoken with a well known uk auditor regarding this thats why now know dont have to let them take note of it unless they state the correct section, so wont in future 😀👍🏻
He had absolutely No clue he even thought i should of had a Novelty laminated card of a random ebay seller by law with my Operator ID on it, but still he tried to Express and pull me up as of he did know 😥👍🏻
Why on earth did you show them the drone and operating id? Look, it's simple. You're not obligated to help the police incriminate you. Just say "no, you have no legal right to see my drone unless you suspect me off committing a crime." Go on to explain that you have every right to anonymity and it is a human right in this country. Do not speak to the police, do not give them any evidence.
Have spoken with some other well known UK Auditors on this matter the Police can obtain my Operator ID under a certain law but i shouldn’t have let them take note if it unless they actually said the exact section of law and like this officer he was clueless on law so your right on this occasion i shouldn’t of let him photo it. The drone rules are written in a confusing manner have put link below which was forwarded to me by 1 UK Auditors well known auditors 😯👍🏻 www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2021/12/contents
@@Droneauditsscotland There is nothing in that legislation which shows that you have to give up your right to anonymity. The law is clear in this country. There are only two situations when you have to identify to the police. One, you're operating a vehicle on a public highway and two, you've been arrested. You can remain silent and there is nothing the police can do about it. If you say they can search you, they have to have specific reasons to search you, such as drugs or going equipped. Carrying a drone is not one of those reasons.
Not saying they have any right to search me,im referring to them being aloud by law to take note of my operator ID, i was annoyed for giving it as goes against everything, you will see from time to time all other UK auditors letting take note of operator ID. Was also wanting to Police on this occasion to tell of the tyrant business for wasting tax payers money as part of their protocols which involved a member of public doing a lawful procedure but should of knew Tyrants will always side up with Tyrants, this was 1st & only time police have actually attended one of my videos in the year ive been doing it, the interaction will prepare for next one 👍🏻😃
@@Droneauditsscotland get a laminator and print off the various laws. Study those laws and keep copies. I researched this when I saw the foreign copper dealing with PJ Audits. Anonymity is a human right in this country. Don't let them take it away from you. If they arrest you, then protest but allow them to do it. It'll get you a few quid for a new drone.
@Zooumberg yeah ive been struggling to find a Gov or police website that explains the operator ID laws so i can print off and laminate as this is exactly what i need as im being abit if a guinea pig for Scotland as we dont have any other Current Drone Auditors here. If you know any webpages Mate that has the rules stated clearly would high appreciate if can follow link on, went through loads of web pages looking since this incident but most of it to read was double dutch 😯👍🏻🏴
Yeah was my 1st interaction with police attending an audit mate, there is a law that an officer can do checks to make sure a pilot has correct credentials to fly which does allow him to take note but not if its just for flying over a business, have spoke with some Auditors down south and they said only let them take it of threaten you with arrest then can put a complaint in and show their true tyrants ways , i have took note and lesson learned on this one for next time 😃👍🏻🏴
SECURITY DO NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND THE LAW ON DRONE FLYING.
BECAUSE OF THIS AND THEIR INHERANT WISH FOR CITIZENS TO GAIN PERMISSION ON ALL MATTERS SO THEY HAVE CONTROL. OVER THE PUBLIC
There desire to involve the police is a waste of public funds and takes manpower away from say BURGLERIES.
WHY OH WHY DO THE POLICE FEEL THEY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN LEGAL ACTIVITY LIKE DRONE FLYING.
WHAT NEXT "THE CONKER POLICE" HAVE you got protective eye glasses, insurance, a certificate of COMPITANCE and CONKER LICENCE.
Absolutely Brilliant Comment Mate 🤗 i will Pin this so @ Top of comments as 💯 correct about everything, i really thought Police Scotland would have came out & warned this business to rethink their policy of wasting Tax Payer money by involving Police for a Member of publc doing a lawful thing by flying a drone but No the male Police officer had an attitude from start & would like to know how id of been treated if didnt have GoPro on, i suppose Tyrants will always have same attitude & Thought process as this Tyrant Business policy 😩👍🏻🏴
You don't give your name unless you're arrested for a crime, they can suspect all they want.
Well said mate, believe or not but this was my 1st police attendance in over 11 months ive been doing Audits, i wanted to prove these guys were in wrong for wasting police time and when a clueless about drone officer turned up i thought “ok ill let him have operator ID” but wasnt budging if he asks my name” 😯👍🏻🏴
Watch Pure Audits latest and see how he dealt with same. Police weren't satisfied until he produced printed legislation from his bag showing why he didn't need to provide the ID.
Brilliant Comment mate & thanks for notifying me of this as will be useful for my Future Interactions with Police Scotland, this officer had no clues in drone laws he even thought i was suppose to have a novelty laminated card with my operator ID on it that you buy off ebay & with me being the only drone auditor up here im defo going to get more of this from them 😃👍🏻🏴
But he showed him operator ID, I thought you could be identified through that ?
Just found your page & subscribed. Very good audit & I love how plod demand your name & operator ID twice, but then just walk away. Guess he didn’t need it that much. Then they wonder why they have no trust from the public !!!
Thanks for subscribing mate 🤗yeah very Tyrant attitude demanding my name especially when doing nothing wrong, i shouldnt of gave my operator ID but was willing to try work with police @ 1st due to this business thinking its ok to call them and waste tax payers money as part of their protocols for a drone doing a lawful flight over their business, but guy who turned up and had no clue about drones and being honest i didnt like his tone with me as it seemed he was talking to me as if i was breaking the law 😥👍🏻🏴
You can go a walk through the old Nobel site it was once the largest explosives factory in the world, the two chimneys were for the coal powered power station. You could spend a full day exploring the area and not see all the bunkers .
Thats handy to know as will be back in that area at some point as never flew Chopper over another near by business due to Chemring wasting Police time on me flying over here, so be good to have a wee explore and make a day of it, thanks again 😃👍🏻🏴
No you can't it private property.
@@davidseaton8923 just because it is private property doesn't mean that you can't explore it .
Dont need to give the id just show u had one
Yeah im aware if this mate but if Police are clever enough there is a loophole were they can ask for your operator ID but this officer was clueless on the Drone law he even thought it was should have a laminated card from some cheap ebay seller with my operator ID on it , experience of this makes me stronger next time as this was my 1st time police actually attending 1 of my videos since i started making them over 11 months ago 😯👍🏻🏴
@Droneauditsscotland not seen any scottish police on youtube getting in to drone laws so be fun when it happens test them on it more be gd content
Thanks Mate 🤗 starting tomorrow i will also be using a zoom camera to see a more true reaction from businesses as fair play to most ive visited have been great & met loads of nice staff & management only a small number who claim they own the air etc have acted like a total 🔔🔚 and showed their true colours 😃👍🏻🏴
@BiggyD80s he can show them it he does not need to give them the di he has done nothing wrong i have a drone myself
@BiggyD80s look up the police powers on drones police need to suspect you of a crime to get it
Showing it is one thing, allowing him to record it is another one.
Next time don't let them know you've flown it.
The Grass security manager said we have cctv of him taking drone off as i walked up to police car cant hear him properly in video, there is a loop hole if fly drone then all police can check and take note of operator ID, this officer had no experience with drones he also expected my name like tyrants do 😥👍🏻🏴
great videos respect fae aberdeen
@@alexanderdrummond1214Thanks Mate, plan on going up North soon for a few Audits 😃👍🏻🏴
if you don't want people to see your site then simple - build a bloody fence.
Yeah i didnt check around the back but it looked wide open i could if came up that way or just took drone up from there and they be none the wiser, when i do go back in that area to do any businesses near by will purposely fly into their yard again for an update in what they are building and just to prove they dont own the air 😃👍🏻🏴
Great nice to see a Scottish auditor, Especially in Scotland, where the behaviour of police Scotland has eroded public opinion so much they have no supporters in a jury (You know citizens who have history OF their terrible behaviour with members of the public)
Thanks mate, yeah we need more auditors up here and due to me currently being the only one im going to be the guinea pig on how they react especially how i cover from west to east across the Central Belt plus will be going up North soon for a few videos, its also shocking they dont wear body cams as they know they can say and do what they want without one 😯👍🏻🏴
Nice video on photography laws and never give these clowns an inch.
Thanks mate🤗Yeah its a good thing its not what they think and the laws they ate suppose to serve & protect otherwise id of been locked up for doing a lawful flight 😟👍🏻🏴
Is that another example of an operator id being recorded illegally? You have to show it, but they can't make a record of it unless a crime's been committed. I don't think the cops are getting the interpretation right.
Well said mate normally when Police demand this showing it should be enough 😢 there is 1 thing that does confuse me regarding drone laws as it also states the Police can also ask a Drone flyer can be asked to prove he has the right credentials to fly, i will look into this more especially how this officer thought he had a right to demand my ID which i thought “fair enough i will give them it but not my name” & straight away he demand my name 🥲 typical tyrant behaviour which i was refusing to give as i had done everything lawful 🤪👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland That confusion relates to larger drones if you are carrying out a flight that requires certain credentials to do that operation, for a sub 250 drone you only need to be 13 years of age or older. You don't need a flyer or operator ID as long as the drone is registered to someone with an operator ID. And you are correct telling that sleezy looking cop that you don't get a card, it's online at the CAA site, they do not issue cards or certificates, if you're a member of an association like like FPV you can pay for a card if you want one but not a legal requirement.
@@Phil-Sandsthanks for the useful information. Always good when information is shared
Police Scotland with no Bodycams again. its Shocking that we
are the only Polis in the country. that dont all have them .
Thumbs up Bro
Thanks mate, yeah his attitude was off with me from the word go and dont think he was too impressed when i said i was recording saying that i didnt like his tone when demanding my name so imagine what he would of been like if i wasn’t recording 😟👍🏻🏴
Because the have seen the trouble they cause in England, THE ONLY reason they don't use them is because it would make them look bad and they know it.
They’re too afraid to utilise them 🥷🥷👮🆘🎬🎬
Just look at how many criminal police the Auditors
have exposed Nationwide 👮🤮🤮🤮
Plus uneducated Security managers 🧨🧨🧨
who agrees it’s legal and calls the law 🙄🙄🙄
Great video. Just found your channel. Subbed 👍👍
Thanks Mate 🤗 Just subbed back hadn’t seen your channel even though I constantly watch other Auditors 🙈 TH-cam algorithm really should aim our videos @ the correct viewers but never does lol 😃👍🏻🏴🇮🇪
@Droneauditsscotland
The algorithm is weird bro. Maybe it's anti Scottish and anti irish 🏴🇮🇪..
I'll be tuned in. Loving the 1st few. Don't expect much from mine, it's just me shouting at people at times🏴☠️😜
Thanks Mate 🤗 Everybody does their vids slightly different also good to see how some interactions go as know we will end up with the same situation with ours, will have a good wee look through yours mate, yeah my accent defo not liked by the algorithm 😜👍🏻🏴🇮🇪
What a great video mate honestly one of the best for interaction. That manager of security did not have a clue about anything he was absolutely hopeless! As for the police there hopeless aswell I think Saltcoats police need to get up to date with the laws. It’s shocking the way that they demand your operator ID. That video was a 10/10 mate 👍
Thanks Mate your comment put a massive smile on my face ☺️ yeah the police man did not have a clue and i didnt like his tone of voice either when he was demanding my name, their is a loophole when police check to make sure you have all the correct info for flying a drone they can take note, have noticed it happening more and more with auditors down south recently, the police had no clue and was telling me i should be buying a laminated card off ebay as if it was illegal that i hadnt, no doubt will be seeing Police again shortly as will now be using a zoom camera especially after that staff member approaching as i used camera for 7 seconds to film the barrier it really annoyed him 🤪👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland Focus Pocus has a solution to the drone ID problem. Split it & put half the number on top & the other half side or bottom. They won't get it in 1 pic.
Will look into this as i need to do something otherwise im going to get this more and more often especially how Police Scotland are not used to Auditors up here and im going to be a guinea pig until we get a few more, thanks for the info 😃👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland Police Scotland don't do law. They misinterpret or make it up. Read the Carloway Policing Review, PSOS Codes of Practice & Conduct. Sec 10 Police & Fire Reform & Criminal Procedure Acts. Keep a copy of relevant parts to read to them. Do that, they have no excuse for abusing position.
@@BiggyD80s What law does this "Entitled" appear in? Is it superior to, for example, your right to privacy & your constitutional right to "FULL FREEDOM of passage, trade & navigation between ports & places throughout UK"? If it's already been used successfully, explain how it "won't work"?
Good to see Franco Begbie has turned his life around ..!😂👌👌
Lol he does look him 😃🤣👍🏻🏴
What you thought was an old hospital is Nobel house, it was the offices of ICI when they took over the plant .
Thanks mate, great finding out info on the places i visit, i went past it on bike and thought it looked like an old hospital as has fencing all round it as if abandoned 😃👍🏻🏴
Why do they come out and dont know the laws.
Yeah this is a big concern for me especially being the only Drone Auditor up here as i do think im going to get Police when called out clueless every time as Police Scotland obviously dont teach their officers the law regarding Drones 🙈👍🏻🏴
@@DroneauditsscotlandI’ve got drones and got my own channel would like to work together liking what I see might start auditing myself.
@bluebearphotography sounds a plan mate as i keep trying to tempt others as need more Scottish Auditors (too many businesses for 1 person) plus be good to overlap and visit places that 1 of us did come across any tyrants, facebook message or email me mate 😃👍🏻🏴
I love it. Just subbed. Keep it up matey.
Thanks for Subbing Mate & kind words 😃👍🏻🏴
“ a concern “ i rest my case. Hurt feelings and concerns have no meaning in law.
Well said mate i wish i said that @ time 🤔👍🏻
Just found your page mate great video subcribed
Thanks Mate, Glad to have you onboard 😃👍🏻🏴
Police officer gave up very quickly 😂 brilliant 😂
Thanks mate, yeah still annoyed he took note of my operator ID though, no way he was getting my name 😃👍🏻🏴
Brilliant video mate 👌👍...does the guy in the white car no realise everywhere he goes wether it's walking down the street, in shops... anywhere, he's getting filmed..😂😂..so much happened in this video for you...well handled...👍🙂🏴
Thanks mate, im still annoyed that i had to let the police take a photo of my operator ID, there is 1 law i read if flying a Drone and police want proof that you have operator ID they can take note of it, this was 1st time the police have attended 1 of my audits so experience will make me stronger for next time and i do think Police Scotland wont have much of a clue on the rules especially with not many auditors up here so kinda being a guinea pig for them lol plus will be using zoom camera from now on so i guess it wont be the last Police attendance 🤪👍🏻🏴
Good stuff.
Thanks mate 😃👍🏻
25:30 huge mistake letting him record id, thats not what the law states.
There is a loop hole that police can check that you have right credentials to fly a drone, also seen dje media get caught out with this and have to show his operator ID as well as DJ & PJ audits recently but thats really for clued up or Drone police officers to use this tactic, this officer had no clue as he was telling me i show pay someone on ebay for a novelty card that laminates my operator Id 😯👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland aye i’ve seen them mate, showing is not recording though, so when they get their phones out hide it. Because it will just end up on a database somewhere. They can see with their eyes 👍🏻
@SensibleCentrist yeah will do mate been reading up more on it and had email from a few of our friends down south (Auditors) saying only let them take note of it when they threaten with arrest this way i expose Tyrant behaviour as well as can put in an official complaint against the officer if wanted 😃👍🏻🏴
Well done sir 👍.
Thanks mate 😃👍🏻🏴
Another Cop who knows buggerall where do these people train
Where ever he was trained it wasnt very good 😯👍🏻🏴
Russia
Security manager admits it's legal , but thinks the police can stop you doing a legal activity (pillock) 🤡
Yeah he also admitted he flys Drones himself so he knew the Tyrant Business Protocols were wrong, the should be fined for wasting Taxpayers Money 🤔👍🏻
Fantastic again mate 🎉
Thabks mate 😃👍🏻🏴
nice interaction well done, have subscribed. just a word of warning i notice you have a skin on your sub 250g drone, by putting the skin on you could now be potentially over the limit by 2 or 3 grams and breaking the law you might want to pop it on some scales to check or risk having your drone confiscated by a smart cop. fly safe
Thanks for Subscribing, yeah mate if you look Closely @ Chopper (Drone) i have only managed to put 75% of skin on due to the weight, when i did change over to Mini 4 i mentioned the weight issue i was having with skin, had to change propeller back etc as i do have Lime once as well but they were heavier, yeah i always anticipated i might get a Drone cop 🤗👍🏻🏴
Cool 👍Keep up the good. Look forward to your next upload. 😉
@tonycarrington4426 Thanks Mate, Good comments like yours keep me out there making more 😃👍🏻
I though it only had to be displayed incase it crashed. Not sure if plod can just ask to see it.
I want to go & film this site now.😮
Great video yet again police attitude stinking has zero communication ability but what else would we expect
Thanks Assi 🤗Yeah wasnt a nice tone when the officer was demanding my name and operator ID was talking to me like a criminal, just glad i had my go pro on as he was gunning for me from his very 1st words saying “didnt care about social media” he should as now on it and thumbnail as well 🤪👍🏻🏴
The security manager was embarrassing and needs to understand that his ‘concern’ for an activity that is legal is irrelevant. The male cop would benefit from having a friendlier approach as he was a right miserable looking sod (especially when dealing with a non crime).
Thanks for your Great Comment Debra, yeah straight from the off the Male officer was negative towards me and as if i was a Criminal for doing a non crime event. The Security Manager admitted he flys a Drone himself so he knew more than better that shouldn’t be wasting Police time but due to the Tyrant Business protocols they obviously think its ok to waste Tax Payers Emergency Services as they dont like it if a Member of the public flys a small drone over their business & if was so top secret & a security concern then the CAA would of issued a no fly zone (FRZ) 🤔👍🏻
Police tend to struggle on a basic level like this often.
Yeah he was clueless on Drones, he even said i should have a Novelty Laminated card with my operator ID on me 🙃👍🏻🏴
Is it not a prohibited place under the National Security Act 2023? None of the prohibited places are listed on drone assist yet and might never be. Police powers under that act are pretty far reaching.
Yeah your 💯 correct mate, there is a new law just came out though which is totally baffling regarding National Security just give Tyrants more powers 😮 not that this officer knew anything with Drone Laws he must of been off Sick that day when doing his training 😜👍🏻🏴
What a bad police officer. also in England. keep up the good work. let him tel his name and his badge number first
Thanks Mate 🤗 yeah i was stupid to think that Police Scotland would of came and pulled up this business for wasting Tax Paying services & Police Time but of course Tyrants will see a Tyrants point of view, Good Comment mate 😃👍🏻🏴
Keep going wee Scots have to be educated
Will do mate, the fact Police Scotland proved their officers dont have a clue encourages me do more audits 😃👍🏻🏴
Looks like this is going to be a massive site once they complete it
Edit maybe they will have a no fly zone once it's built. To be fair the old power plant and gate house was the most interesting bits
Yeah it was the power plant that attracted me to the site in 1st place, i was so gutted when i put the drone up and thats all there was to see, i really thought was going to see something cool, top secret due to the way security were all acting especially when they wasted Tax Payers money phoning the police for just that 😥👍🏻🏴
I know its hard but please watch and re-watch Focus Pocus and ACE audits with how they handle situations and work on your articulation of your arguments. You started looking for confrontation with the guard that didn’t speak to you, not a good look mate.
Please dont turn into a Laughing Auditor or DJE type where they just look for trouble, stick to the core belief of PINAC.
You left without telling security they were wrong tho , shouldne have scampered so quickly 🤣
Hope you see this is a good critique, your video’s are still class 💪🏻
Yeah i made a few mistakes here and although ive been doing audits for 11 months i was still learning how to deal with police interactions as this was my 1st one they have attended since i started.
I communicate with ACE Audits so will also get their thought process on what i do wrong, and your right i was looking for a reaction due to mins early the baldy guard attitude annoyed me which normally doesn’t happen it was just the way he said “none of your business” when i was asking him a genuine question slightly annoyed me 🙈 all points are noted mate and know and welcome criticism especially if im the the one making mistakes 😯👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland You’re still smashing things and your attitude is whats needed in Auditing 🤝🏻
Does anyone know where we can print of official usable documents that can given to Police showing there not entitled to take a note of your Operators ID unless a crime or suspected crime .
Seem to remember DJ audit had been prepared for this in a folder . Don't know if scottish law is diffrent to English . Can't find his Video.. Just a thought!
I have seen Dj audits & DJE Media letting police take a note of their operator ID recently, pure audits did have a leaflet that he said in video he printed off a Gov website so i commented on his video twice and the 1st time he deleted my comment which is very unusual for a Auditor to delete another auditors comment but someone else commented he got lifted in his video that he put down his battery ran out at end, so im not sure if there is a document but if you do come across one mate please let me know j will also reply to this comment thread if i do come across one but when i studied the laws the police Yes can only ask to see your operator ID if they suspect you of a crime but another section of the drone law says an officer of the law is aloud to check you have correct credentials to fly 🤷♂️ which would require seeing and taking note of operator Id, until i get such piece of information im just going to have to refuse until threatened with arrest , scottish law is just the same i had to double check that with me being the only drone Auditor up here, we need more and im trying to encourage others to start as right now im a guinea pig for the police up here especially how i go to different areas 😯👍🏻
@@Droneauditsscotland Can just see how will play out Police will try to bully stating they are entitled to having ur Op ID or the threat of arrest or seasing drone
Nice one.. Police will be better prepared the next time
..a badly organised facility
Thanks ☺️ Im not so sure this is why in trying to encourage more Scottish Auditors as im going to be a guinea pig when the Police get phoned out as they dont know the Drone Rules 🥲👍🏻🏴
But will they 🤔
the dumb in the white car did he ever hear about cars with a dash-cam ? who record him maybe 20 times a week
Yeah this guy caught me off guard and couldn’t believe how silly he was to come up to me as i was wearing a GoPro complaining i filmed his car meaning he now be in my video lol 😃👍🏻🏴
Security manager is spot on, you could inform him of the weight of your drone for him to inform the police if you have any concerns about wasting police time not that you have to. But it lets the police know you are not just some fellah that’s bought a drone and is out on a jolly.
The security manager also flys drones himself he knew that there was No FRZ in place, the issue was they did not want me flying a drone with camera he states this in video
Securities' jurisdiction ends the moment they go onto public land. So him asking for your details is laughable. He just didn't get that the company doesn't own the air🤦🏼♀
He claimed he wanted to "work with you" yet he called the plod before you even flew the drone!
Basically it's a building site, so where the heck did all those staff come from?
Why did you let the plod take a photo of your operator ID? You weren't breaking the law.
Yeah the guy flys drones himself so he dam well knew i could fly over legally but due to the TYRANT Business (Chemring) they think its ok to just waste Emergency Services resources which are paid by the Tax Payer as they dont like a guy turning up outside site and flying a drone over, i never got to do the other business which was there because waited too long on the Police but when do go back will make sure Chopper flys over their yard for an update on construction and to prove they dont own the air .
Yeah the officer was totally clueless on drone laws according to him i have to but a novelty laminated card made by some random on ebay to show my operator ID (WTF) i thought if i showed him my operator ID they maybe be on my side and told the business not to waste police time but No as soon as i gave him it he demanded my name but he was never getting that, but lesson learned no point giving these Tyrants anything as they always try get more 😟👍🏻🔔
It might be prudent to carry a hard copy of the drone legislation with the relevent passages highlighted to show the Police goons which might enable you to give them a harder time. Good video though, keep up the good work.
Thanks Mate 🤗 yeah after this video i research the drone laws again looking for apart of the law that’s simplifies as im going to get this time and time again with Police Scotland officers not having a clue on the law, its all double dutch and if was to print it out of the section ive read it wouldn’t help much, im still looking though as i am acting like a guinea pig up here, great comment😃👍🏻🏴
He keeps saying... "I understand what you are saying," but he doesn't. "
Yeah he kept just saying that plus he admitted that he was a drone flyer himself so knew the Protocols the Company went by were not “Fit for Purpose” but still they phoned Police and waste Tax payers Money as they dont want a Member of Public flying over their the Land, doesn’t help when get a clueless Policeman who has already decided with his own Judgement that i was the Bad Guy before he even spoke to me 😯👍🏻🏴
You should’ve checked at the end if the Renault had a disability badge displayed. This sites prob underground hidden by the trees 😂
Copper said I don’t think WELL said
Yeah that is a true fact his thought process on matter was irrelevant, the law that hes suppose to protect & serve is what matters but unfortunately he must of dogged class when it was about drone laws 😃👍🏻🏴
Bunkers that's hidden aye used to pick up out of their its one big yard
Lots of under ground bunkers you can see the domes in your video.
I didnt see them at time are they on their site or the land next door @ abandoned power station, will be going back to area so be worth looking at the bunkers 😃👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland they are there site ..they have another gate out towards the way you would have came in..its not open for access .they have a brand new building round at that side..pretty high tech inside ..they use the bunkers for testing ..thats why they have there own quarry like bit ..its sand for blast testing .
@richiedee75 great info mate and be worth another fly over when visiting the business near by, lol no doubt they are reading these comments so will keep them on their toes knowing i will be back @ anytime 🤗👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland haha yeah they probably will be..at the end of the day you wernt braking any laws. If it was that much of a secret it would have no fly zone and cops as the security.they have only recently updated the security barriers abd turnstile to get onto site..they must have a new contract with all the construction work going on.ps.that cop was a complete bell 🔔 end .totally treated you with disrespect in my opinion...the fact they called the cops got you lots of views 👍🤣keep up the good work mate 👏
Why do they dress like cops , oh ye INTIMIDATION 😅
Coreect mate to try and stop the public from doing a lawful activity 😯👍🏻🏴
Why did you let him photograph your operator ID?
There is a loop hole in which police can obtain your operator ID just for flying Drone to make sure you have the correct credentials to fly lawfully, even likes of DJ, DJE have let Police take note of their Operator ID & i have Spoken with another well known UK Auditor on this matter, your right i should not of let him photo my operator ID is this occasional but if a clued up officer on Drone laws hits me with correct section them i and all auditors need to show it, this officer was clueless he even thought i should have one of they novelty laminated plastic cards with my operator ID for Law 🙈 this was 1st time Police actually attended one of my audits so have learned not to give it to them unless they hit me with the correct section next time 😃👍🏻🏴
@@Droneauditsscotland Fair enough. It's just frustrating watching these ego driven bellends, gain any kind of little victory in these encounters 😉👍
@jimmygodfrey4119 yeah i studied the drone laws and been confused with how the way its written contradicts itself as basically Police can ask you for your operator ID i also found out under that same section they can ask you for name etc but they do need to state under what section of law it is or do not need to provide it , the laws are not written very clear and thats why Police will be clueless on the matter as i dont imagine many will study and seek correct protocols before they are in a situation involving an auditor, unless i get a Police officer who is part of the Drone department or the officer who attends is in direct contact with the Drone team I shouldn’t have to let them take a note of it going forward unless they threaten me with arrest which then is a totally different issue for them as then will look into compensation for them abusing powers, didnt know all this at time but been updated since talking it over with a fellow auditor 😃👍🏻🏴
I didn’t know Robert Carlyle had joined the Police? He’s not aging well……
Yeah he totally looks like his Train-spotting character lol and hes probably about 15 years younger than Robert as well 😉👍🏻🏴
Now 39 minutes.😮
Used to be I.C.I mate making explosives years ago hence the bull..it you got
Thanks Mate for the Info 🤗 I didn’t know that, I take it ICI did the same sort of work then and probably same company and staff as before change change of name for other reasons 🤔👍🏻🏴
Now 20 minutes…..♻️
should not let him take photo of it..
Yeah have spoke with other auditors over this & will wait until threat of arrest before grudgingly let them take note then put a complaint in straight after, there is a loophole in the drone laws that contradicts itself as states “an officer of the law can ask to check your credentials to fly drone” but thats really only for Police that are clued up on drone laws and this officer clearly was clueless as he even stated at 1 point that i should carry a novelty laminated card with my operator ID with me like you get from ebay of a random seller, i did think the police were going to pull the business up for wasting tax payers money with part of their protocols as dont like a member of public lawfully flying a drone over their business, but as you see in video this was not the case after all Tyrants will agree with Tyrants 😟👍🏻🏴
That cop looks like beggie from trainspotting and things he's a ticket.
Yeah he defo looks like a Beggie from trainspotting 🤣🤣, his attitude was off with me from the start, certainly didnt talk to me like i was the one doing a lawful event 😯 it should of been the security Manager he spoke in that tone for wasting Tax payers money & that the manager also admitted he flys drones himself so he knew dam well i was being totally lawful 😯👍🏻🏴
5 minutes was 15 minutes ago! 😮
Yeah i gave them more than enough time 😃👍🏻🏴
Not many people auditing the Police stations in Scotland like they do in the rest of UK, why is that? are there different laws that prevent it in Scotland?
Crap security management.
Agree they have protocols in place were they phone police for doing a lawful flight 😟👍🏻😃
The site that makes or connections to military should be a no fly zone and if not should be respected and in my opinion you should not fly over ! For the simple reason these facilities are all targets in this current climate
I turned up here not knowing what I was flying over so they should be an FRZ in place that way everyone would know not to fly over
Don't show cops the operators ID so they can record it...they only get it is you ate suspected of a crime. No name or ID required to be given for the same reason !!
Yeah this was my 1st attendance with Police during my Audits, spoke with other auditors about the loophole that clued up Police officers can check that have correct credentials to fly drone but this officer was clueless and i did give operator ID to easy, next time i will wait til threatened with arrest and then put complaint in if they do push me all the way 😃👍🏻🏴
I think DJ audits has a strip of tape across his operator id on his drone. I believe the law is you must have one and it must be displayed on the drone. If they ask to see it then it is only to check that it is displayed on the drone so they could establish who owns it should it come down or damage something. Then you only have to give the id once a crime has been committed along with your name. No crime no id or name. 👍
Very good work 👍
Thanks mate 😃👍🏻🏴
Pathetic company.
Yeah have to agree on this one as they think its ok to Have protocols in place that waste Tax Paying Services to attend site for someone flying a small drone lawfully just because they dont like it 😥👍🏻🏴
Another section 26 . 👮🤡
Yeah always have a tyrant attitude 😥👍🏻🏴
why show him the Operator ID ?
STOP TALKING REMAIN SILENT uphold your rights. Why did you give them anything once you give them something they want more.
Noted me, was basically wanting to prove a point that i was doing nothing wrong the police do have a loop hole were they can ask for a note if your operator ID in proof that you are aloud to fly drone although this officer didnt have a clue on drone laws and was just demanding all information, can tell in his tone of voice that he was treating me as a bad guy 😟👍🏻🏴
Kopz never follow the law.
Yeah also think if i wasn’t wearing a GoPro this may have ended differently for refusing my name 😥👍🏻🏴
Why did you show him the flyer ID ? You shouldn't have , you haven't broken any law.
Yeah im aware if this mate but if Police are clever enough there is a loophole were they can ask for your operator ID but this officer was clueless on the Drone law he even thought it was should have a laminated card from some cheap ebay seller with my operator ID on it , experience of this makes me stronger next time as this was my 1st time police actually attending 1 of my videos since i started making them over 11 months ago 😯👍🏻🏴
What a tool 😮😅😊😅😊😅😊
Well said mate 🤣👍🏻🏴
Situation normal Mincer cops.
Well said mate 👮♂️🤡😂👍🏻🏴
police not identifying, make them identify when they are on scene.
You can't beet think
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Should not have shown id!!!
There is a power that police can obtain your operator ID but they have to state the actual section of the law for me to have to let them take note of it. your right i did know about the loophole how police can get it but not that they have to actually say the section of law that states this to me and you can tell in this video the officer had no clue on drones he even thought i should have paid an random ebay seller for a novelty laminated card with my operator ID on jt 🙈
Have spoken with a well known uk auditor regarding this thats why now know dont have to let them take note of it unless they state the correct section, so wont in future 😀👍🏻
The other side of their story is you are not breaking any laws so they will call the police, logical?.
Yeah just because they dont like someone doing something they dont like 😟👍🏻🏴
why did you let him take a photo of your operator id? he has identified you for doing a lawful activity.
Another Muppet cop doesn't know the law
He had absolutely No clue he even thought i should of had a Novelty laminated card of a random ebay seller by law with my Operator ID on it, but still he tried to Express and pull me up as of he did know 😥👍🏻
Sounds like demolition cutter charges.. like the ones they used on the twin towers
Why on earth did you show them the drone and operating id?
Look, it's simple. You're not obligated to help the police incriminate you. Just say "no, you have no legal right to see my drone unless you suspect me off committing a crime."
Go on to explain that you have every right to anonymity and it is a human right in this country.
Do not speak to the police, do not give them any evidence.
Have spoken with some other well known UK Auditors on this matter the Police can obtain my Operator ID under a certain law but i shouldn’t have let them take note if it unless they actually said the exact section of law and like this officer he was clueless on law so your right on this occasion i shouldn’t of let him photo it.
The drone rules are written in a confusing manner have put link below which was forwarded to me by 1 UK Auditors well known auditors 😯👍🏻
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2021/12/contents
@@Droneauditsscotland There is nothing in that legislation which shows that you have to give up your right to anonymity. The law is clear in this country. There are only two situations when you have to identify to the police. One, you're operating a vehicle on a public highway and two, you've been arrested. You can remain silent and there is nothing the police can do about it.
If you say they can search you, they have to have specific reasons to search you, such as drugs or going equipped. Carrying a drone is not one of those reasons.
Not saying they have any right to search me,im referring to them being aloud by law to take note of my operator ID, i was annoyed for giving it as goes against everything, you will see from time to time all other UK auditors letting take note of operator ID.
Was also wanting to Police on this occasion to tell of the tyrant business for wasting tax payers money as part of their protocols which involved a member of public doing a lawful procedure but should of knew Tyrants will always side up with Tyrants, this was 1st & only time police have actually attended one of my videos in the year ive been doing it, the interaction will prepare for next one 👍🏻😃
@@Droneauditsscotland get a laminator and print off the various laws. Study those laws and keep copies.
I researched this when I saw the foreign copper dealing with PJ Audits.
Anonymity is a human right in this country. Don't let them take it away from you.
If they arrest you, then protest but allow them to do it. It'll get you a few quid for a new drone.
@Zooumberg yeah ive been struggling to find a Gov or police website that explains the operator ID laws so i can print off and laminate as this is exactly what i need as im being abit if a guinea pig for Scotland as we dont have any other Current Drone Auditors here.
If you know any webpages Mate that has the rules stated clearly would high appreciate if can follow link on, went through loads of web pages looking since this incident but most of it to read was double dutch 😯👍🏻🏴
shouldh't have given your op id just show you had one
Yeah was my 1st interaction with police attending an audit mate, there is a law that an officer can do checks to make sure a pilot has correct credentials to fly which does allow him to take note but not if its just for flying over a business, have spoke with some Auditors down south and they said only let them take it of threaten you with arrest then can put a complaint in and show their true tyrants ways , i have took note and lesson learned on this one for next time 😃👍🏻🏴
the drone videos are very good but you seem to go looking for trouble for no reason to get more views
Over 90% of my videos mate have a good interaction, i only reflect how they are with me 🤔👍🏻🏴