How China is designing flood-resistant cities

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  • These "sponge city" designs resist floods and increase biodiversity to help us adapt to a changing climate.
    This episode is presented by Delta. Delta doesn’t have a say in our editorial decisions, but they make videos like this possible. For more information, visit www.delta.com/sustainability.
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    From rising sea levels in Mumbai to unbearable heat in Houston, cities around the world are feeling the effects of climate change. Unfortunately, they don’t always have the right infrastructure to handle its impacts - which is one reason why cities are beginning to reimagine urban design. One of these designs is a “sponge city.”
    Although one city design certainly won’t save us from the effects of climate change, “sponge cities” can help with how we live with it.
    Here are some studies and articles we used to inform our reporting:
    Biodiversity - our strongest natural defense against climate change: www.un.org/en/climatechange/s...
    Sponge City, Shenzhen Explores the Benefits of Designing with Nature: www.lincolninst.edu/publicati...
    Sponge City Practices in China: From Pilot Exploration to Systemic Demonstration: www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/14/10/...
    The ocean is rising - and so is Miami’s skyline: www.vox.com/climate/23872640/...
    Sponge Cities: Integrating Green and Gray Infrastructure to Build Climate Change Resilience in the People’s Republic of China: www.adb.org/sites/default/fil...
    How Is Climate Change Affecting Floods?: www.nytimes.com/article/flood...
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  • @ziqi92
    @ziqi92 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +855

    The materials necessary to build sponge cities and replenish underground aquifers obviously exist, as does the technology. We just need more political willpower and money to get these projects going everywhere.

    • @TheDragonRelic
      @TheDragonRelic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Good luck getting that done in capitalist countries without a robust network of Soviets

    • @Andrew-bl8eq
      @Andrew-bl8eq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@TheDragonRelic Yeah, China is definitely not a capitalist country, right? Wrong

    • @Western_Decline
      @Western_Decline 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Biggest difference is China has functional government, unlike most of the West

    • @khein2204
      @khein2204 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@Andrew-bl8eqthe majority of chinese economy is held by state owned enterprises, so yes of course it is not a capitalist country

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@khein2204but the netherlands is and we have the worlds best water management systems

  • @christianspanggaard
    @christianspanggaard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1553

    This video is weirdly informative while being a masterclass on whataboutism by Delta Airlines ...

    • @noahwsa
      @noahwsa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

      literally. hard to feel like your learning about a contentious subject when the information being presented is funded by such a pollutive company.... and the video isn't even about anything to do with the aviation industry.

    • @christianspanggaard
      @christianspanggaard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

      @@noahwsa I don't think there's necessarily something wrong with the information nor the way they present it, it is just hard to take it seriously or accept it as facts when the sponsor of the video likely uses VOX's platform as a way to deter the negative focus away from themselves and their industry.
      Also, I think VOX are actually trying their best to convey the information with as little influence from Delta Airlines as possible, but to deny their influence, or potential influence on future videos, is just wrong and unserious - of course they influence the topics and discourse around said topic no matter how much, and how successfully, VOX tries to deny it.

    • @mantisshadow8990
      @mantisshadow8990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Well it shouldn't matter too much in this case if the content is factually sound and the sources (linked in the description) seem to be so.
      If "whataboutism" is more proposed solutuons which can be quite positively impactful (not just to disincentivise flooding but also in this case act as a beautification project) then sign me up for it.

    • @eldrago19
      @eldrago19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I don't think polluters funding videos about climate mitigation is a good thing but I feel like 'whataboutism' is just a term for facts people don't like.

    • @zaboo4088
      @zaboo4088 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@christianspanggaard It says in the description "This episode is presented by Delta. Delta doesn’t have a say in our editorial decisions, but they make videos like this possible."
      I trust Vox's reporting, and think this is more an attempt by delta to have their name tied to some climate change reporting to act like they care. Delta is like "we do care about the environment, we fund climate journalism!"

  • @christopherhedges6582
    @christopherhedges6582 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +559

    Delta airlines: yeah don't try to stop the climate crisis, just have to learn to adapt to it!

    • @mike8055
      @mike8055 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      yes, but you still want your low-cost direct convenient flights, don't you?!🤣

    • @christopherhedges6582
      @christopherhedges6582 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Well I hate to be THAT guy but these days I take the train, so ha! Would be nice if it was as cheap and convenient as flying though, I appreciate not everyone can afford to be as self-righteous as I am

    • @scorpioninpink
      @scorpioninpink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The thing is that we cannot stop it anymore.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@scorpioninpinkwhy not?
      Seriously, humanity can if we try, we can do anything.

    • @scorpioninpink
      @scorpioninpink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWebstaff Stopping Climate Change is not possible anymore because that period of time has passed. What we can do is to lessen its effect and adapt to the changes it will bring. If by 2050, We can't even lessen its effect then we are doomed as a species and we are just waiting for our inevitable death.

  • @zupermaus9276
    @zupermaus9276 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    To be fair, what happened in Zhengzhou was not something any sponge city could have coped with, a 'once in 1000 year' event as a year's worth of rain fell in 3 days. Also a fallacy to think that because it didn't work in that one (extraordinary) event, means none of it works.

    • @godzillamothra5983
      @godzillamothra5983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      true, sponge city is just a part of the solution, it need to be complement with other methods, even the Chinese experts admitted that.

    • @squibbelsmcjohnson
      @squibbelsmcjohnson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can only do so much, has to be WITH other solutions... It's like when sewers overflow.... And today a 1 in 1000 year event is gonna start happening every 100 years

    • @johnransom1146
      @johnransom1146 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The fallacy of all or nothing

    • @edmundtaiping
      @edmundtaiping 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For the past few years China has been facing multiple "100 year event", and "1000 year event". Some cities even came out with "5000 year event"
      Almost every year you can see them repeating this narrative. Not just Zhengzhou, but Guangzhou, Sichuan, Chongqing, Henan.
      It shouldn't happen so frequently if it's a 100 year or 1000 year event, yet we see it happen annually

    • @kubotite9168
      @kubotite9168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@edmundtaipingwelcome to the future of climate change..lol

  • @TRODD12321
    @TRODD12321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +809

    Can we have a video discussing greenwashing by big polluters? Like Delta? Also, any chance of a piece about the conflict in Yemen sponsored by Aramco?

    • @lilyludwig4323
      @lilyludwig4323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      An AIRLINE putting their name on a video about combating climate change is so funny. Bffr

    • @thl205
      @thl205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, they should be forced to spend their profits combatting climate change. No one’s going to watch this and fly Delta

    • @Jwellsuhhuh
      @Jwellsuhhuh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@lilyludwig4323can you explain to me why everyone is hating on an airline for sponsoring a video? You realize that you need fuel to fly planes right? And that millions of people around the world need to “travel”, and that commercial airplanes are by far the least environmentally damaging method of fuel transport in a society lacking high speed rail infrastructure?
      If you’re gonna hate delta, hate literally every single company that manufactures products because guess what! Those also produce carbon emissions.

    • @TheRealBekathy
      @TheRealBekathy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lilyludwig4323 i had a bit of a chuckle after seeing the delta sponsorship

    • @TRODD12321
      @TRODD12321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Jwellsuhhuh You're totally right! I've changed my whole perspective. Greenwashing isn't a thing, Delta are great, but BP and Shell are my favourites now, thanks to your insight.

  • @gdc4752
    @gdc4752 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +325

    Not DELTA being the sponsor of this video 😂

    • @actually.itsashley
      @actually.itsashley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      My thoughts exactly

    • @johnanon372
      @johnanon372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      example of green washing😂

    • @davej811
      @davej811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Beat me to it 😂

    • @dululjahma6609
      @dululjahma6609 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, after seeing that I pau"sed the video a bit and thought, was that a joke?"

    • @raymondzhao9557
      @raymondzhao9557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so weird

  • @samwam9442
    @samwam9442 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +807

    Thanks for this video Delta Airlines, now i know we can just survive the symptoms of the climate crisis and not worry about emissions ☺️

    • @MrPlannery
      @MrPlannery 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hoping you never use planes or anything else which pollutes or increases carbon emissions?

    • @aaryanyadav1386
      @aaryanyadav1386 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@MrPlannery excuse me this is humor

    • @zwicker5585
      @zwicker5585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Lol the fact an airline sponsored this should be a huge sign we are being lied to

    • @thastayapongsak4422
      @thastayapongsak4422 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@MrPlannery You don't need to use planes for medium to long distance travel if we had high speed rail. Planes only make sense for over the ocean and cross-continent journeys.

    • @MrPlannery
      @MrPlannery 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thastayapongsak4422 that's all very true. But nothing to do with my reply to the person exhibiting cognitive dissonance.

  • @eugp4198
    @eugp4198 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +655

    Singapore is a great example.. highly densed population but shady city with lots of trees and greenery. Very comfortable to walk outside despite the country being located near the equator. 🌲 🌲 🌴🌴..

    • @TheSuperiorQuickscoper
      @TheSuperiorQuickscoper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Tokyo could learn a thing or two from Singapore. Forward-thinking when it comes to zoning and housing, backwards views on public green space. Nothing but concrete as far as the eye can see. Taipei has a similar problem.

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I'm rooting for singapore to do taiwan and democratise and liberalise voluntarily. then it would be a great country.

    • @cocaineminor4420
      @cocaineminor4420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@Ass_of_Amalekit already is a great country/city
      They are a very capitalist and democratic country.

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@cocaineminor4420 moderately capitalist - if it was very capitalist, the median standard of living would be lower. and not democratic at all.

    • @Avantime
      @Avantime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@TheSuperiorQuickscoper Tokyo's problem is the pre-bubble real estate market means that land was incredibly expensive (At one point the Imperial Palace grounds were valued at more than all the real estate in California) and earthquake standards made it cost prohibitive to build upwards, like you see in Seoul and the Chinese cities. The result is endless low and mid-rise sprawl connected by countless commuter train lines, whereas in SK/China they can build high rises, and some surrounding land can be used for greenery and other urban beautification, so as to make it a more premium real estate development for the developer.

  • @mohithargunani6610
    @mohithargunani6610 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    The reason why Mumbai is struggling with floods is because the BMC cut down most of the mangroves out of greed and corruption for more buildings and projects. That has backfired in worst possible way one can imagine.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And the people suffer most from that. So corporations won't make a change until it affects them too. In which case, they just pack up and leave to find and ruin another place.

  • @juliegolick
    @juliegolick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +461

    Also, imagine if HOAs started mandating that people's yards be composed of indigenous / local plants instead of monocultured grass!

    • @theviniso
      @theviniso 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Sounds like a good idea. I doubt HOA's will ever allow it to happen though.

    • @Ignash
      @Ignash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      But fReEdOMMS

    • @xuem19
      @xuem19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      xeriscaping

    • @Modestas_Gardziu
      @Modestas_Gardziu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@IgnashI want to grow what I want !!!

    • @christhed8679
      @christhed8679 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Not even mandating. What if they just allowed it

  • @astrotrav
    @astrotrav 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +196

    Is there going to be a video on greenwashing from the airline industry? Or would certain sponsors not like that?

    • @pacificdream5152
      @pacificdream5152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Their previous video was sponsored by Delta airlines and it was blaming cows for releasing greenhouse gases. I doubt they will make a video about greenwashing anytime soon

    • @Kass686
      @Kass686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pacificdream5152 This video is also sponsored by Delta, you’re right they’re not gonna do that any time soon at all 😭

    • @nnamuenmada
      @nnamuenmada 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      why not blaming boeing or airbus or oil companies or flyers, why airlines?

    • @SurBlox
      @SurBlox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kass686 in the description it says delta has no say in vox's editorial decisions

    • @Kass686
      @Kass686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SurBlox I don’t personally think that a platform like Vox is wrong to take a sponsorship from something like Delta, but it should be a given that no matter what they say in the description, there are unspoken rules about what you “should” or “should not” talk about if you’re going to continue working with said sponsor. Even if that statement is in the description, everyone should be weary of what information has been excluded in order to make one party look better

  • @sgmaniakk
    @sgmaniakk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +224

    One important theme here is land use. China prioritizes transit-oriented development and sustainable urbanism, while the US builds sprawling suburbs with highways and parking lots. The North American suburb is a land use anti-pattern.

    • @heyitsme9258
      @heyitsme9258 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Lol sustainable. Good one 😂 Those tofu building are not sustainable.

    • @shaddythewiz3836
      @shaddythewiz3836 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      @@heyitsme9258the average Chinese citizen on average produces less emissions than the average American and . Also the tofu buildings aren’t being built anymore as it was a product of china rapid growth but now that growth has slowed they have regulated the market heavily and to focus on sustainability and traditional architecture.

    • @wumaobot
      @wumaobot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@MickJonesHogSmacksSlava billion aid 😊

    • @Hkchinese888
      @Hkchinese888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you really think sponge cities in chyna are working? 🤣

    • @Hkchinese888
      @Hkchinese888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shaddythewiz3836 the next thing is rotten tail buildings, these people only keep building, they know nothing about sustainability.

  • @College_Cooking0605
    @College_Cooking0605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +272

    I love These videos they give me a national geographic vibe and I love it

    • @technophobian2962
      @technophobian2962 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I would've loved it if it wasn't sponsored by a company in the business of emitting as much carbon as possible.

  • @veggieboyultimate
    @veggieboyultimate 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Green infrastructure may not be THE way to solve flooding, but it certainly does help. Multiple solutions is better than just one.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How China is designing flood-resistant cities 0328am 27.10.23 Well trees which take in hefty amounts of water via their root systems can't do any harm... and as we all know trees are required to cleanse the air.... i mean.... common sense prevails somewhere, i feel..

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The way to resolve flooding is by protecting nature in flood zones

    • @PsyckoSama
      @PsyckoSama 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At least when it actually exists.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PsyckoSama Comments on ‘How China is designing flood-resistant cities’ 0220am 31.10.23 yerv lost me now, sunshine... are you suggesting these wonderful eco friendly city scapes are not yet in existence...?

    • @PsyckoSama
      @PsyckoSama 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JJONNYREPP More they're basically just a false venier. You need to understand how utterly fantastically and woefully corrupt the Chinese construction industry is. Chinese projects like this have a tendency to be badly rushed, not constructed to code, and often skip over steps that cannot be easily seen on the end product. It's called 'Tofu Dreg Construction'. Google the term. In the case of things like drains it'll often come in with this like not using the right gauge of piping, not properly preparing the ground, to ridiculous stuff like decorative drains with no pipe.
      One of the big reasons for this is Chinese construction projects have ultra-tight bidding and a side result is that all too often skimping and cheating is the only way to turn a profit.

  • @JustinLe
    @JustinLe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    hilarious that Delta is the one sponsoring these

  • @Ass_of_Amalek
    @Ass_of_Amalek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    POV: you want to build moderately affordable housing
    other countries: build row houses and housing blocks in mixed residential-commercial zones with bicycle paths, sidewalks, pedestrian crossings and tram lines
    america: 0:53

    • @actually.itsashley
      @actually.itsashley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      For real when I saw the clip of Houston it felt so dystopian

    • @ni9274
      @ni9274 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      China isn’t a great example

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ni9274 well, other than all the real estate investment shenanigans, china does do city planning better than much of the US has been built - notably at different times, china's cities have been in large part built after the decline of the car and the superiority of other transport methods had become much more apparent. and before then, china generally built with other transport options in mind because most chinese people could not afford to own cars.

    • @rncmv
      @rncmv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ass_of_Amalek "after the decline of the car"?

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rncmv yes

  • @fakhruddinnalawala5451
    @fakhruddinnalawala5451 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    For all that the 'sponge cities' are being touted as a solution to flooding, spotty implementation and lack of legislation are preventing these from working well - as seen by the devastating floods that took place just a while ago.
    I think this is a very important point - coming up with solutions is important, but so is implementing them.

    • @LD-xt1vo
      @LD-xt1vo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have my doubts on this. Didn't the recent floods in Beijing show some serious weaknesses in the sponge concept, at least as it's currently deployed?

    • @fakhruddinnalawala5451
      @fakhruddinnalawala5451 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@LD-xt1vo To be honest, I think it's a combination of genuinely massive floods (in large part due to poor management of the rivers and dams) and corruption leading to substandard implementations.

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

    • @ToudaHell
      @ToudaHell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🤦‍♀️ THEY'RE WETLANDS! cities are finally listening to biologists and building Wetlands instead of draining them. Wetlands are designed to absorb water. They do have limits but nothing rivals them in water level regulation. This is a HUGE step in the right direction. Wetlands are also some of the most biodiverse areas on the planet.

    • @kongwee1978
      @kongwee1978 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beijing has historical record of rainfall, do you expect the Americans could do better?@@LD-xt1vo

  • @emreersoy7792
    @emreersoy7792 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Sounds like a promising solution but the Delta sponsorship makes me skeptic 😂

  • @pqpq594
    @pqpq594 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    My local council replaced these sort of permeable pavements with concrete slabs :(

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The loss of biodiversity in the UK is staggering. I remember a council put up these horrid nets over bushes and shrubs to prevent birds from nesting.

    • @crusherven
      @crusherven 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did they say why?

  • @DanielLoveReel
    @DanielLoveReel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    I was really hoping you were going to suggest we stop building suburbs, which tend to eat up natural area, which tends to be spongy. We need to build up where we are already developed and stop building out. It's easier for the greater region to soak up water if it isn't all paved because we had to have a bunch of soulless suburbs.

    • @aimeem
      @aimeem 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That's very much a North America problem

    • @eat_ze_bugs
      @eat_ze_bugs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But how else are we going to have our own swimming pools and 3 garage driveways?

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Imagine having a beautiful piece of land... and wasting it on a suburban hellhole.

  • @TheLiamster
    @TheLiamster 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Florida should start taking notes

    • @Urbanhandyman
      @Urbanhandyman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Florida is going to become a massive underwater reef if sea levels rise as much as some of the predictions indicate.

    • @theviniso
      @theviniso 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Florida will be under water in a few decades, there's nothing they cn do.

    • @8is
      @8is 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Urbanhandyman 1 meter sea level rising is bad but not the end of the world, not even for Florida. And that's pessimistically, we're probably looking at some 30cm by 2100.

  • @rongwu-sj9ws
    @rongwu-sj9ws 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    When I was a child, my family lived by the Yangtze River. Every year floods would inundate the town. Every year it was a matter of life and death. It was just a matter of how many people died. When the roads were flooded, you could only go to school by boat, which cost about US$0.01. In order to save this money, I would give my schoolbag to my friends to take to school, swim there myself, and then dry my skin. After I left my hometown, concrete dams were built there instead of earth dams. Then there were countless engineering machines to fight disasters, and then there was the Three Gorges Dam... I haven't heard of raging floods for many years.

    • @darth_27
      @darth_27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I hope you are doing well now

    • @rongwu-sj9ws
      @rongwu-sj9ws 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@darth_27 Thank you very much for your concern. I'm doing well now. The floods and famine are a thing of many years ago. I'm currently dedicating myself to helping African children, just like helping my own self from decades ago.
      You are a kind person, and I hope everything is going well for you!

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The three gorges dam was not created ethically and it is gradually falling apart much earlier than it's supposed to.

    • @rongwu-sj9ws
      @rongwu-sj9ws 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@jammaschan Yes, most likely. I know that, like me, you are a poor farmer living in the lower reaches of the Yangtze River. At the same time, you are still very Schrödinger, a science and engineering expert who knows the Yangtze River in China very well. Is not it? If you are nothing, you certainly can’t even do calculus, so you can just instruct us Chinese people on how to build dams. No way. You know calculus, I think.

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rongwu-sj9ws I don't understand what you want to say. Perhaps just type in Chinese and translate it using google, baidu or other translation softwares?

  • @Lore1200
    @Lore1200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Hey, really interesting video! This reminded me of probaply the biggest infrastructure project in my city, Vienna: the 22 km long Danube Island. Only because of the regulation of the Danube, Vienna cannot be flooded. The Danube Island gave Vienna a second Danube river, a lake, which can be "opened" on both sides in case of heavy rainfall. When closed, it is a very clean swimming lake, which can be used by anybody for free and makes Vienna one of the most liveable cities in the world!

  • @NeonNoodleNexus
    @NeonNoodleNexus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The curvy red bridge looks really cool

  • @simplethewaterbender6264
    @simplethewaterbender6264 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    wow... delta airlines? sponsoring an eco-friendly theme video?
    that's new

  • @Calli.ramira_13
    @Calli.ramira_13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Jakarta definitely needs this. Thanks Vox! ❤❤❤

  • @rickraymo1319
    @rickraymo1319 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    This is important for those who haven't understood our current pollution calamity.
    These types of solutions could be unprepared for some of the crazed winds, but local initiatives may find other paths.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pollution in China is so bad most of the rivers are good for nothing, not even agriculture. It smells like sewage.

  • @RcsN505
    @RcsN505 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Western media tends to stick to the narrative of 'China as the threat' so it's really enjoyable to see this piece highlighting their clever solutions. If there's one thing I've noticed is that when they put their minds to something, the Chinese get it done.
    PS: the LA solution looks sad and car-centric IMO.

    • @ROBLOXGamingDavid
      @ROBLOXGamingDavid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its because its how its built to be. Now they had to make something or adapt to climate change even if it appears that it's far too late, for example, trying to make the Los Angeles River another Cheonggyecheon (a 10.9km/6.8mi long river stream and a public space in Seoul)

    • @PsyckoSama
      @PsyckoSama 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, China's solutions are all paper solutions. These sponge cities don't actually exist.

    • @ryosukeyagami6334
      @ryosukeyagami6334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      笑死了,外宣白左右强强联手了属于是😂

    • @pancakeexpert
      @pancakeexpert 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fell into the trap

  • @wongkst25419
    @wongkst25419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    It's just great that ancient technologies are being used for the benefit of mankind, cause Chinese traditional cities are just marvels of hydraulics and landscaping. It seems incredible to me that Imperial China had such knowledge of its hydrology to be taken as an example today to design our modern infrastructure!!

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      really? water is not that complicated. yes, people have known for millennia how water works.

    • @seldoon_nemar
      @seldoon_nemar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They just lost a brand new, never used, largest rail station in Asia to flooding
      It's Xi's legacy city and it was under water last month

    • @user-qwertyuiopasdfghj
      @user-qwertyuiopasdfghj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Traditional Chinese architecture is all about incorporating nature. I am surprised to see no trees in Tokyo street, just concrete, but I guess that comes with one advantage much less insects there

    • @seldoon_nemar
      @seldoon_nemar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj traditional Chinese architecture was shunned during Mao's reign. They tore most of it down during the cultural revolution 🥴
      Now Chinese architecture is about cutting corners with tofu dreg 👍

    • @KHMCHNH
      @KHMCHNH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@seldoon_nemarthese sponge city projects are internationally renowned by scientists. But they still have limits on how much water can be contained

  • @itsiz9738
    @itsiz9738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    why are there so many comments about how "this totally didn't work, don't you know about the flood that killed a ton of people" when they literally mentioned that in the video

  • @gingermintrose
    @gingermintrose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +217

    Thank you, Vox, for highlighting what other countries are doing to solve climate change without geopolitical stereotyping of the prevalent narratives about China. Let's hear what is working and initiatives out there to combat climate change.

    • @riot-van5986
      @riot-van5986 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't China the biggest Polluter 🙄
      and the U.S

    • @Userf384gw
      @Userf384gw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EU casually "outsourcing" their carbon footprint to China and blaming them for the entirety of climate change

    • @KazCanning
      @KazCanning 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      China pollutes nearly 3x as much co2 than America, has poisoned 90% of their groundwater, and us building a new coal burning power plant every two weeks. They're not doing anything good for the environment.

    • @ni9274
      @ni9274 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So we shouldn’t talk about the fact that China doesn’t do a lot to reduce their emission while being one of the country that release the most CO2 ?
      Most of the western world is taking huge step to reduce emissions, they need to do it too.

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@ni9274 China has a population 4x that of the U.S., so the fact that China and the U.S. emit similar CO2 shows a lot more of the U.S.'s emissions issues than China. It's ridiculous to expect a nation with 4x the population to emit less CO2- if the Chinese lived like Americans the amount of CO2 emitted by them would be astronomical. China is actually investing a lot into renewable energy, but because it is such a large and populous country even having the highest amount of renewable energy production in the world may still also make it the largest CO2 emitter in the world.
      This also leads into discussion of how the Western world in general has exploited the rest of the world for centuries, and that there may be an expectation for them to pay back that defecit through needing to be more stringent on their CO2 emissions. For example, wouldn't it be hypocritical to expect China and India, nations who together make up of over a quarter of the entire world's population and have the burden of lifting billions of people to a higher living standard, to care about CO2 emissions to the same extent as Europe and the U.S., who have freely and unrestrictedly emitted disproportiantely huge amounts of CO2 for over two hundred years?

  • @senefelder
    @senefelder 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have been to Nanchang. It surprised me how green it was

  • @reiniervanbeijnum9379
    @reiniervanbeijnum9379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Delta Airlines, explainer of how we should fix the damage they've done:)

  • @JesusMartinoza
    @JesusMartinoza 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    NY needs this so bad

  • @DeathsGarden-oz9gg
    @DeathsGarden-oz9gg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    You should do a video on thirsty concrete and how if we used I in are cities it can help reduce flooding.
    Use it I roads sidewalks parking lots to reduce flooding and sand mining as well as noise pollution from car tires.

  • @Miroslavajeri
    @Miroslavajeri 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The absolute irony of delta sponsoring this

  • @MeatyTF2Mercs
    @MeatyTF2Mercs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As far as I'm concerned, with what some of us saw in Zhuozhou and the cities surrounding Beijing during last summer, I'm not so optimistic.

    • @zupermaus9276
      @zupermaus9276 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To be fair that city saw a 'once in a 1000 year' flood -a year's worth of rain in 3 days

    • @MeatyTF2Mercs
      @MeatyTF2Mercs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zupermaus9276 While true, the CCP's response was way worse, footage of them literally faking or exaggerating rescue operations. While I can give credit to the idea of sponge cities, I think the CCP has poorly executed just about everything relating to that flood.

  • @maxdc988
    @maxdc988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine Zhengzhou did not have those vegetation, the result could be even worse.

  • @Miamcoline
    @Miamcoline 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent initiative. Hope to see more of this.

  • @POKUPOLKA
    @POKUPOLKA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This was a good video vox but the background music was loud compared to the main audio

  • @7hx89
    @7hx89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great programs. Beautiful footage and clear presentation of futuristic ideas.

    • @otaviodelucca3573
      @otaviodelucca3573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These are not futuristic, they have been implemented

  • @chrismytton
    @chrismytton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bit ironic having an airline sponsor a video about climate change

  • @econosium
    @econosium 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just shows how great the modern big economies are at making awesome looking cities. It appears to be a trend. A good one at that.

  • @randomvideos466
    @randomvideos466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Salah satu solusi untuk wilayah perkotaan yang padat penduduknya adalah dengan menerapkan sistem sumur resapan air hujan dimana air hujan tidak langsung masuk kedalam saluran air melainkan terlebih dahulu masuk kedalam sumur resapan air hujan apabila sumur tersebut penuh baru mengalir kedalam saluran air

  • @uggali
    @uggali 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:31 biodiversity is the variety of species not the concentration of plants and animals. For example a 2m square urban garden box is probably more biodiverse than a 2acre corn field

  • @carebear1113z
    @carebear1113z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow this is really informative! Thanks. Vox should make a video about the acoustic kitty project

  • @imsonicnoob2112
    @imsonicnoob2112 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Netherlands, New York City, I mean… Basically the rest of the world should starts taking notes

    • @8is
      @8is 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The Netherlands already know what they're doing.

    • @Trgn
      @Trgn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Netherland's problem is its cities are next to the sea.

  • @MukeshSharma-wd1bp
    @MukeshSharma-wd1bp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chinna playing it's own version of real time City building game.

  • @sm1522
    @sm1522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Biodiversity is also about variation in plant and animal life not just total number

  • @lhiggs999
    @lhiggs999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We wouldn't have nearly as bad a problem if we stopped designing cities around the car. In the US, cities could become far more flood proof if we were to replace most of the asphalt and other infrastructure required for cars with green space. We have plenty of room to work with in most of the cities in this country, but people are just unwilling to give up their polluting metal death traps.

  • @onlyfacts4999
    @onlyfacts4999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They'll be great for boating and kayaking too

  • @Volthan
    @Volthan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Took me my surprise, when an image popped up from my street in Tokyo where I live. 😄

  • @EmptyRedBullCan
    @EmptyRedBullCan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    BUILD TREES NOT WALLS

  • @davej811
    @davej811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The irony of having Delta airlines been mentioned at the beginning 😅

  • @flaviasperandio742
    @flaviasperandio742 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Curitiba in Brazil has been doing this since the 70s, but of course, I couldn't expect a video sponsored by a major polluter company to go to that depth of research and reference

  • @sungillk12
    @sungillk12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seoul is 20 miles (~30km) from the nearest ocean. It is definitely not a coastal city. Also, Seoul has an extensive drainage system... yes it can be overwhelmed but it is still extensive. Seoul also have riverside parks that double as flood control zones.

  • @EamonnMooney
    @EamonnMooney 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    World: We need to solve climate crisis
    Delta Airlines: Hold my water garden.

  • @hayeonkim7838
    @hayeonkim7838 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks for really valuable and useful video as always

  • @antoniodinoto2589
    @antoniodinoto2589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The video is great as always. Just wanted to point out that, although Northern Italy did suffer a very severe drought in 2022, that clip from Milan showing a dried out canal is out of place, as the waterway was temporarily closed for cleaning :)

  • @vaudib
    @vaudib 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Next video idea : how companies like delta airlines use Vox for grrenwashing

  • @hamcki
    @hamcki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    delta airline ...good partner 4 this topic 😆

  • @pkwok6
    @pkwok6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carpark could also made a good temporary water retaining feature when the cars been moved due to foreseeable incoming storm or flooding

  • @LeBeautiful
    @LeBeautiful 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    China thinking outside of the box..quite literally.

  • @alexgascon7792
    @alexgascon7792 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toronto is starting this with the Don Lands project. A great reaction to the 2013 floods. Cant imagine how much NYC needs this.

  • @danielf986
    @danielf986 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great piece. We have to start now!

  • @hobog
    @hobog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    2021 Zhengzhou and 2023 Beijing floods show that either there still aren't enough sponge cities, or that something's wrong with existing ones! Could get a national agency+fund going to help these projects, not just force provinces and cities to do them alone. Gotta contend with increasingly intense emergency dam discharges, and stop diverting floods into villages *and outlying towns without adequate warning and compensation*

    • @salt_spicy
      @salt_spicy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apparently they intentionally flood cities around Xiongan to protect it, the "future city" ordained by Xi

    • @zeitgeistx5239
      @zeitgeistx5239 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Who said those cities are entirely “sponge cities”? You think all of China compose of 1 single park in Nanchong? You are referring to a flood mitigation concept which have been implemented to various levels depending on the city.

    • @leezhieng
      @leezhieng 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      i think these sponge cities can only prevent regular flood and not the really big ones caused by record-breaking rainfalls like in Zhengzhou and Beijing. fixing the climate is still the most important task to do.

    • @randomname4411
      @randomname4411 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      or maybe just accept that cities have always and will always flood sometimes. Just accept it and move on

  • @eddies6977
    @eddies6977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Instead of bulldozing the land into submission, we need to work in homeostasis with nature. I can’t believe that it’s taken us this long to figure that out.🙄
    Something tells me that capitalism and its best friend, big oil are behind much of the problem.

    • @__-ln7sb
      @__-ln7sb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "work in homeostasis with nature"
      no one's stopping you from living in the forest, naked

  • @gustavothomaz153
    @gustavothomaz153 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it comes to building a city in a sustainable manner, I’d suggest you do a piece about Curitiba in Brazil. It is one of the most sustainable places in the country and the city parks also work as sponges to drain rain water

  • @MichaelSmith-ij2ut
    @MichaelSmith-ij2ut 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have such a weird urge to never fly Delta airlines. No clue why.

  • @LP-zs9yn
    @LP-zs9yn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nature has something like this. They're called marshes. Until bad urban planning and building practices literally erode any of the natural ways natural modulates excess water (or drought). but anyways.

  • @benjaminh9664
    @benjaminh9664 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Nice in theory but prioritizing sponge cities can also come at a cost to more rural areas, which was what happened with the recent floods in Hebei when flood controls meant to protect Beijing and Xi's pet project Xiong'an diverted that water instead to flood Zhuozhou

    • @andrewmtgx
      @andrewmtgx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah they just flooded the rural areas 💀

    • @marcelo3369
      @marcelo3369 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I mean, if somewhere has to flood it should be the rural areas, no? Of course if they didn't warn the flooded regions they obviously should, but don't understand how flooding a city would be better

    • @whodarboilebamnames3990
      @whodarboilebamnames3990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcelo3369 What he is saying is that this concept, and other look good pet projects come at the cost of protectionism of those projects.

    • @AndreImmabe
      @AndreImmabe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Maybe you should look at NYC every year. Natural disasters is the problem everywhere. You can only minimize the impact of it but cannot diminish all the way. Rather have some solution than nothing

    • @Avantime
      @Avantime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@whodarboilebamnames3990 No that's the whole point of flood diversion - You purposely send the water to flood rural areas that has the lowest human and economic impact. This strategy is common across the world, from Egypt to India to Europe and America. Some agricultural land, like the farms around the Nile, greatly benefit from the seasonal floods, and same for the monsoon in India.
      Rural areas are always easier to rebuild, even if the farmers get the short end of it. This strategy has been used for centuries.

  • @correori
    @correori 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How can I grab attention to politicians and overall public of Brazil here? Like, we suffer because our country fail to improve our infrastructure since ever, we suffer of lack of government, we suffer of being Brazilian

  • @GajanandamaniAdhikari
    @GajanandamaniAdhikari 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that VictorMono Nerd Font used in video?

  • @Ben-outdoors
    @Ben-outdoors 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the video! Does anyone have any recommendations for further reading or studying? Would pursuing a masters in Landscape Ecology, or something similar, be beneficial for finding a job in this field?

    • @s_ame1135
      @s_ame1135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LandonOchsner Ecologists are needed here for further analysing. LAs is not an expert on biodiversities.

    • @LandonOchsner
      @LandonOchsner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@s_ame1135 for sure there would be ecologists involved. Landscape architects were the leads on these projects though.

    • @jennatolls2753
      @jennatolls2753 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Landscape Architecture firms hire Ecologists

    • @LandonOchsner
      @LandonOchsner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennatolls2753indeed. The cool ones probably have some on staff.

  • @philiq18
    @philiq18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a former practicing urban planner, I enjoyed this topic.

  • @vlodzimir111
    @vlodzimir111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the music at the end of the video? :D

  • @ziyechhakim4619
    @ziyechhakim4619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We have that one in Indonesia. IKN City

  • @ConstantChaos1
    @ConstantChaos1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rewild EVERYTHING

  • @Takealookat123
    @Takealookat123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see Nanchang city where i lived 9 years 😢

  • @admirald2680
    @admirald2680 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More on this pls ❤

  • @proudgaypp
    @proudgaypp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From those floods in China this year I can see it's not working😂.

  • @nikitaakindinov3545
    @nikitaakindinov3545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such an important topic for many parts of the world!

  • @snaporatz
    @snaporatz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:37 the journal Water is an MDPI journal with dubious peer review standard. Many scientist consider it a predatory publisher. Please consider this before citing such papers

  • @__cypher__
    @__cypher__ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They're also redesigning maps!

  • @hopperchopperstudio3685
    @hopperchopperstudio3685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Making climate change proof cities ❌
    Fixing climate change ✅

  • @user-fj4vd3rn6d
    @user-fj4vd3rn6d 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice insight

  • @MrCreeper20k
    @MrCreeper20k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    > about climate change
    > sponsored by delta airlines
    🤨

    • @mulsenhfk
      @mulsenhfk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's sus

  • @plant_trees_kg
    @plant_trees_kg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nah not Delta again 🤦‍♂ I was standing up to go get something and seeing that Delta logo made me freeze in disbelief. You're better than this Vox

  • @darexinfinity
    @darexinfinity 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Price is really the big issue that prevents this from happening across the world.

  • @Xeonerable
    @Xeonerable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone show that to the FL government who keeps approving the draining of the everglades and wondering why floods are so bad.

  • @BillStreeter
    @BillStreeter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    This designed failed in the catastrophic flooding that happened in China this past summer. So it's not a solution for extereme events. Sadly we're looking at more and more extreme events in the future.

    • @zebraimage
      @zebraimage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody claiming it can single-handedly solve THE ultimate big problem overnight, especially when the project is far from finished.

  • @GKP999
    @GKP999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where I live in SF, the city can't even manage a basic issue like planting a tree. When I am out walking, I see many empty tree plots.

  • @gandalfgreyhame3425
    @gandalfgreyhame3425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vox reporter ignored the recent failure of the sponge city concept to absorb the massive flooding that occured around Beijing after water was diverted to one of those cities in Hebei and totally flooded that area instead.

  • @serafinacosta7118
    @serafinacosta7118 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Buffalo, NY was not included into this feature. That is a Frederick Olmsted city on a garden designed concept.
    Why ?

  • @gameworkerty
    @gameworkerty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video on disarmament is presented by Lockheed Martin

  • @lavi4341
    @lavi4341 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seeing it through flood time of china

  • @YoungGandalf2325
    @YoungGandalf2325 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should start by not building cities below dams.

  • @shawnhtpc2271
    @shawnhtpc2271 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Of course all this natural hydrology stuff goes completely out the window for cities in the "Ice Belt" that have to deal with precipitation that falls as liquid during the day and then freezes at night.

  • @julian.kollataj
    @julian.kollataj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should look for videos by PBS Wild Hope showing how beavers reintroduced to regions make a difference to limiting/preventing flooding.

  • @macadish
    @macadish 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I thought this would have been a video about the recent Hebei flooding that affected millions of people due to diversion of flood water away from the capital to so called 'sponge cities' . That said, I'm all for urban design that leverages nature :)