That book on the pedestal - with the clues to the trap - is like an ancient nord equivalent of leaving the password to a computor on a sticky note... sticked to the computor.
@Haku infinite Well true, I agree. I guess what I said applies more so to the claws, where the additional level of "security"(the code on the door) is written on the key - not the worst decision, but you still wouldn't want to write the credit card pin on your credit card with a marker. Defeats the purpose of having a code at all, could just have a key. That sort of thing)
@@raereigames Which one? The animal riddle, or the claw door? In the first case - quite true. In the second - the means of conveying information here is the most fundamental of all: simplest iconic inscriptions, basically - images. And this was exactly the means which would be used to communicate information to the masses in the time of illiteracy: the mozaics and frescoes, as an example(and it is even a more complicated one, actually).
@Haku infinite Can you as a player open it wothout the claw? Never, no matter which code you would enter. Is it supposed to be opened without the claw? No it is not. Don't make things up, my dear.(and even if were - would then make the claws completely and utterly derogatory, anyway...)Could some people ages later open it without the claw? Of course they bloody did 8) But breaking the system is just a point about its effectiveness, not about the design. As for the rest... You really underestimate your ancestors, my friend) It is true we would look like geniuses (or rather like adepts of satan...) to the ancienttimers, but if they knew anything it was wildlife, the nature around them. And they saved that knowledge in folklore, passing it on for generations. They did not know why the world was as it was(or rather they made up reasoning for that in their mythology), but they knew how things worked. And if they didn't they would strive to find out, sometimes make up if unable to. Because it is the nature of human beings which is ingrained in us, it is the exact thing that made us who we are now - our need to know.
@Haku infinite Don't forget, what we are all arguing about is basically a game mechanic, first and foremost) My inicial comment was a small joke, and Gopher makes the same sort of things with his character's comments and thought processing. With just a bit of imagination all of these things just start to work and let you feel like a smart heroic adventurer in an interesting world full of surprises. Without also spending hours on solving real puzzles, which not everyone would enjoy in their skyrim experience. We all just mock this game so much, because if how much we love it ;)
You know how Lenny feels happy and entertained when Inigo sings? I think Lenny's tirades make Inigo feel the same way but he puts on a serious and inquisitive look to not offend 😉
I downloaded this mod this other day, it is really creative and can be applied to many play styles. Gopher check it out !!! Also maybe Lenny is missing something in his life, maybe what he is missing is the comfort of divine worship... aka winter sun faiths of Skyrim also by enai!!! It allows you to worship the divines or daedric princes slowing building favor and unlocking new powers through your worship!! There is also Elven, redgaurd, and kahjiit gods you may worship, if you were the appropriate race. Great mod overhaul, currently worshiping the old gods(animal gods)
Lewd yeah npcs don’t even use those spells added, only you are allowed to cast the new spells, and the spell books are immersively added through select vendors.
@@DarkLordDovahkiin yeah, but... Leonard character is no way going to legitimately worship a god :) The only thing he would try to do to them would be to try to fool them or make a deal with them, hoping it would come out in his favour. But wintersun is an amazing mod, though. I think triumvirate might suit Lenny a lot, but we will see. I guess at this point Gopher tries to be very wise with the new mods, and mostly only add anything if it specifically comlements some step in the development of his character.
Holy hell this might possibly be the longest dungeon in the game. No slight at gopher but you really start to notice it when an entire episode is in a dark as hell dungeon
Ah my Wednesday isn't complete without a strong cup of coffee and skyrim by Gopher I swear I don't know what I'm going to do when it all ends hopefully tes 6 will be out by then.
it would be interesting to see what Leonard would come up with to protect his treasures... big impenetrable door? riddle of the ages? maybe a beast or two?
Well thanks Gopher, Haven't thought about playing skyrim for at least a year, AND then here YOU go again. And now all I'm doing is spending hours FINALLY getting all my mods going on SSE...Granted totally worth it good lord Skyrim has never looked or ran better but still here we go again...(First time actually trying SSE never thought the mod support was good enough to switch a few missing I really like but close enough)
Maybe back then, but certainly not now. Every joe blow bandit has his own journal where he chronicles his life story and every peasant has letters to his crush and his temple healer in his nightstand. Terrible idea to base your security on current literacy rates, as though those would never rise or fall. So that's still a fail for the Nords.
quote from the unofficial elder scrolls pages: "All muffle effects stack additively. Values over 1.0 have no additional benefit." also: Notes The magnitude of the Muffle effect is significant. However, the magnitude of enchantments and spells is not displayed in-game. Most built-in enchanted items have a magnitude of 0.5, meaning they are only 50% effective. The actual effectiveness of the Muffle effect for magnitudes below 1.0 depends on armor weight, i.e. 50% of the noise of Daedric is still much higher than 100% of the noise of Elven. All custom-enchanted Muffle effects have a magnitude of 1.0, regardless of skill level or soul gem used, making them greatly superior to most built-in enchanted Muffle items. Vendors will start carrying Boots of Muffling at level 11. When both invisible and completely muffled (muffle magnitude of 1.0 or more) you are undetectable to most enemies to the point that you can even walk, run, sprint, and jump around in front of hostile NPCs without being noticed. Muffle can make players almost undetectable to the Falmer, which rely mostly on hearing to detect enemies.
a thief a warlock and a librarian get in a bar ...all of them started ranting about how utterly stupid are any kind of locks of any kind, race or age are at skyrim while drinking cups of warm milk to piss off the locals ...then they switched to alcohol and got happily drunk
That was a really fun episode. I'd never thought I would enjoy a dungeon episode that much, but I had actually kinda missed it since its been a rather long while since the last one. And I laughed out loud at the use of traps against the draugr here. Looking forward to each new episode to come :)
Honestly your analysis on the puzzle makes me facepalm how I was struggling so much with it in the past. For some reason the rhyme always threw me off on one of the options xD
Realise I'm arguing with lenny and not gopher, but (in my mind) the reason for logic puzzles over locked doors is that it's a crypt. Keys will definitely get lost over the generations, eventually preventing people from getting in. Puzzles circumvent this, and still keep the undead inside so long as they're complicated enough to outsmart a drauger. Probably why getting the puzzle wrong activates a trap, they want the escaping undead to go back to being just dead.
Sorry, but the 'lore' reasons are just kind of daft. There is a 'need' to 'outsmart' draugr who apparently are curious enough (or driven enough) to pull levers and possibly pick up claw keys and insert them into claw 'keyholes'? But there is no need to put some sort of security on all the bloody short cuts out of the boss chamber right back to the exit? That's awfully convenient isn't it? :) And why do I never ever see these draugr randomly trying to pull levers and put claw keys in doors? PLUS, why on earth did the maker of the gate want other living people to just be able to enter at will? I mean if I put something in a safe place like that, I'm going to make the combination bloody impossible to figure out or randomly 'zerg'. I mean really, you go to ALL that trouble to make this hard to get in and out and you attitude is "well if you can read I'm OK with you going in whoever you are. As long as you're not a draugr, it should be fine. I'm sure nobody will evil intent will ever find this key." :) OK as Gopher here (not Leonard): The reason for them is to add puzzle gameplay for the player to solve and feel good about him/herself :)
@@GophersVids ah yes the problems with lore versus gameplay, like the whole Horn of Jurgen dungeon where apparently Delphine just went in the back door where the player has to do the whole dungeon. The back door should be an option for clever players
@@cooper10182 it is! There are a few where I spent so much time exploring that I didn't recognize the areas I had snuck into -- only to realize I had been going into the shortcuts all along. I'm not sure if that's clever but for a long time I thought it was rather weird that the more difficult enemies were showing up earlier in the dungeon and then got progressively weaker. *Facepalm*
I've heard that the Nordic puzzles are more of a ritualistic practice, as opposed to puzzles for adventurers to solve. By completing the rite, priests and warriors and the like are given access to commune with what I would assume to be the dragon priests.
I've always found it hilarious how Gopher makes sure Leonard's character never thinks of the idea that the traps, switches and simple puzzles are not meant to keep people out but the Draugr in.
It's nice to see that Leonard has come to accept Inigo's playful rolls.
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That Draugr Death Overlord made me abandon my first playthrough... Two-handed sword using Nord in full dwarven armour. The dude kept destroying me many times xD seeing those steps up to his throne gave me chills. - Apocalypso
I think the one highlight to Nord tombs in their design is that they are literally impossible to enter without the original key. Apart from being impregnable, that is as secure as it could possibly get. In their time, I imagine the key would have kept safe, which would make the tombs completely unable to be opened. The puzzle is just an ancient Nordic *captcha*, to sort out those vile mer that don't have common sense after stealing a key.
This lock is probably the best in the game. After all education is something that can be controlled so only a select few could actually read. The real question, what were the sarcophagi for before the drauger?
It's terrible. It's the embodiment of what Leonard complains about. Lore claims that the locks are meant to keep draugr trapped inside, but this lock has draugr on the outside. Worse, if you fail the lock it intentionally releases draugr into the world.
About that lever that's behind the locked cage door. Can't agree enough with you. Security by obscurity is never the way. Also, TH-camr called Lockpicking Lawyer called, he wants to know your location. (actually not, it's a meme)
Inigo using the trap to kill the Draugr makes me think of the Broken Arrow Order used in the Military (Broken Arrow is a command used by a command-level leader to drop a devastating payload on their own position when they think they (commander and squad(s)) will be overrun.
I'm so old, I remember 'Broken Arrow' as a Saturday morning western show, starring Michael Ansara as Cochise. Turns out it was based on a 1950 Jimmy Stewart movie.
Leonard, really? He found the lever, found the room, got poisoned, ran back out (pulled the lever in case anything else was in there) and died of the poison. Pretty obvious.
Literacy had always been a thing in Tamriel, during the First and Second Era there were a lot of literature and scientific/magical advancements. Later Third Era/the Fourth Era are the start of the dark days. Shalidor and Ysgramor were very literate and,for example, Reman's Empire is remembered as the most advanced one, most of the Guilds were estabilished during Versidue's Akaviri Potentate in the Second Era. The Nords back then, after the extermination of the Dragon Cult, didn't shun magic or knowledge as dangerous or "for the weak".
@@vincegalila7211 Still, even in the Merethic Era there was Literacy going on. I remember that Felldir, one of the three that battled Alduin on the Throat of the World was able to read an Elder Scrolls. Speaking only the Humans, of course. I have spoken of the later eras and Imperial periods as a more "recent" period, but form of literacies there always were on Tamriel. I doubt Dragon Priests were illiterate.
Wonder if Leonard would run back for the ore vein after he finds out that’s what Orcish pieces are made with? Personally, I usually just go to a Stronghold to order some up, as it seems they’re a lot more likely to have the ingots needed to let Honed Metal work for you.
The orc settlement mines are a better place to find orichalcum. No fighting and more mining spots. The ones in the west both have orichalcum mines. The one in The Rift has no mine IIRC and the Eastmarch one has ebony in its mine. Ooooh, ebony!
Door to your room, you can close it, right? Would it stop your kids or wife from opening it? No. (Lets assume you don't have a proper lock on it, alright?) But it WILL stop your dog or cat from opening it! See where I'm going here? Only those who can read or smart enough to randomly pull the leavers could open these doors :)
There's a lot of extra stuff that easy to miss, like when I realized later that there were Master quests at the college, or that there were guild quests to unlock by grinding the Thieves guild radiant quests.
Just wondering...would Curators Companion be compatible with your version of LotD ? That way you wouldnt have to worry any longer about missing or picking up items needed for your museum collection.
And/or the devs added triggers that cause the dragur the wake up when the player crosses through them. Which was extremely scummy of them to do that as it makes the sneak skill a bit pointless if there are instances where enemies will trigger regardless of how high that skill is. Going to blame that likely different people designed each of the dungeons and some just did not like the idea of players sneaking on past all their totally well thought out dungeon encounters.
@@senhowler yes, I remember him talking about that, I was just wondering if he had made changes. could be just me since it's been so long since the last Lenard chapter :P
Of course he is. That explanation may be canon, but it's actually even dafter and pretty much marks the ancients as not just stupid, but actually quite mad :)
Personally I think that the ancient nords knew how stupid their people were, and designed some silly locks to keep exceptionally stupid people out, but let anyone who can manage logic come in, excluding the excessively stupid. Maybe they were all too closely related.
I am fully convinced that the Nords of old made these dungeons to keep the stupide undead in because these puzzles are just too easy. Anyone with an IQ over 6 could solve it.
That's actually part of the purpose of the easy to open locked doors or out in the open levers in Skyrim's barrows... and those same undead are the ones that have enough of their mental faculties to tend to the torches and candles in those places.
You can use vortex but really no mod manager is all that great with the older games. I find it really best to do them manually or get fallout mod manager. Using the respective mod manager from that generation I have better luck with. For example I still use obmm/wyrebash for oblivion. But yea modding fallout 3 or oblivion and older are a fair bit more hands on. TL;DR I would use fallout mod manager or just do it manually.
But apparently retained the intelligence to operate simple machinery? They have the intelligence needed to pull the four levers but not to read the order in which to do it? Ok, then what if these sort of intelligent but not very literate draugr just start pulling levers randomly? Won't take long to accidentally get the right combination. And why in all this time has no draugr pulled the levers and sprung the trap already? I assume the draugr in that come out of the tombs won't pull levers randomly? Why not? And in the dungeons that have claw keys, you have to assume the draugr understand the concept of a key, a keyhole, how to turn the key in the keyhole BUT not the concept of writing. But then why can't they just keep spinning the wheels until they get lucky? I mean they have to be smart enough to use a key and lock, motivated enough to do it, but not quite motivated or smart enough to spin the wheels. These draugr have some seriously specific and odd skill sets :) .... or there is a simpler explanation ......
@@jollyjeangiant Yeah ... get hit by sword and get outfit bloody or roll on the floor and get it covered in mud ... Leonard would need five minutes per hit just to process the pros and cons right there.
Do foxes eat snakes? I feel like the snake was meant to be a rabbit or something, but then they'd need to make a model/texture for it and that'd take time and money so they just shrugged and used the snake instead.
From Wikipedia - "Foxes are omnivores. Their diet is made up primarily of invertebrates such as insects and small vertebrates such as reptiles and birds. They may also eat eggs and vegetation." Snakes are reptiles and some people eat snakemeat as well. Rattlesnake meat, in or out of chili, is eaten in Texas.
I hate the lock picking mini-game enough as is.... I am fine with turning all the puzzles to locks so long as we go back to Morrowind where lock picking was just poke it a few times and it will probably open.
Gopher, I love this playthrough your doing of skyrim, i do. But I can't keep silent anymore. That spell you use "Fade Other" to turn inigo invisible is a spell u can only get through the use of console commands, not even cutting room floor add the spell to the game. It a great spell to be sure, but it unobtainable without using the console command player.addspell 28532
Nothing is unobtainable with mods. Not sure which mod adds it though. But yes you can use the console to get it if you want. You can use the console to get everything and anything (and indeed to do much more). Not sure why you felt you had to keep silent about the dev console though, it's not a secret.
Do you play and record later or it improvisation because fair play not to blow smoke up your Harris another classic. on a unrelated note isn't it a nightmare being middle aged all the little twinges and pain's. 50 next year where does the time go.
Gopher you know i have wondered why Skyrim doesn't have the BASILISK as an opposition like they have Dragons? your in caves so much you think that they would have added them in Skyrim because They have been around since 79 AD. so J.K. Rowling does not have the rights to the Basilisk creature no one does it's to old of a myth
ProTeach I would give it 3 days before Leonard would either put a knife in Vilja’s throat or at the very least make a “special” sweet roll for her. He can barely tolerate Serana at times.
Stephen Spradley well it doesn’t have to be vilja. I like inigo aswell it’s just the whole sweet rolls bit has gotten old for me personally aswell as the inigo bugging out constantly. Just want a change of pace
you need to watch the parody Gopha XD sums up your peeves th-cam.com/video/hAbLhKvBDec/w-d-xo.html your puzzles is (having done this one way to many times) snake, bear, fox, wolf just like Bleak falls. just hit each ring 3 times. also when it comes to these tombs. Who is lighting all the fires and candles. moreover where are they getting them from?
That book on the pedestal - with the clues to the trap - is like an ancient nord equivalent of leaving the password to a computor on a sticky note... sticked to the computor.
@Haku infinite Well true, I agree. I guess what I said applies more so to the claws, where the additional level of "security"(the code on the door) is written on the key - not the worst decision, but you still wouldn't want to write the credit card pin on your credit card with a marker. Defeats the purpose of having a code at all, could just have a key. That sort of thing)
Then again, perhaps no one was literate when they made the trap?
@@raereigames Which one? The animal riddle, or the claw door? In the first case - quite true. In the second - the means of conveying information here is the most fundamental of all: simplest iconic inscriptions, basically - images. And this was exactly the means which would be used to communicate information to the masses in the time of illiteracy: the mozaics and frescoes, as an example(and it is even a more complicated one, actually).
@Haku infinite Can you as a player open it wothout the claw? Never, no matter which code you would enter. Is it supposed to be opened without the claw? No it is not. Don't make things up, my dear.(and even if were - would then make the claws completely and utterly derogatory, anyway...)Could some people ages later open it without the claw? Of course they bloody did 8) But breaking the system is just a point about its effectiveness, not about the design. As for the rest... You really underestimate your ancestors, my friend) It is true we would look like geniuses (or rather like adepts of satan...) to the ancienttimers, but if they knew anything it was wildlife, the nature around them. And they saved that knowledge in folklore, passing it on for generations. They did not know why the world was as it was(or rather they made up reasoning for that in their mythology), but they knew how things worked. And if they didn't they would strive to find out, sometimes make up if unable to. Because it is the nature of human beings which is ingrained in us, it is the exact thing that made us who we are now - our need to know.
@Haku infinite Don't forget, what we are all arguing about is basically a game mechanic, first and foremost) My inicial comment was a small joke, and Gopher makes the same sort of things with his character's comments and thought processing. With just a bit of imagination all of these things just start to work and let you feel like a smart heroic adventurer in an interesting world full of surprises. Without also spending hours on solving real puzzles, which not everyone would enjoy in their skyrim experience. We all just mock this game so much, because if how much we love it ;)
"Why did I think [hitting the web with fire] would work?" - Gopher
My guess? Another life as a post apocalyptic survivor in Russia.
This thought is reoccuring, which makes me wait for a day when Lenny would subconsciously try to kill spiders with magelight too 😁
You know how Lenny feels happy and entertained when Inigo sings? I think Lenny's tirades make Inigo feel the same way but he puts on a serious and inquisitive look to not offend 😉
17:57 So glad Lenny is a Spice Girls fan.
Had to rewind that, I was like "hold on, did he just?"
New mod from Enai - Triumvirate shadow magic might be a good pick for Lenny.
I downloaded this mod this other day, it is really creative and can be applied to many play styles. Gopher check it out !!! Also maybe Lenny is missing something in his life, maybe what he is missing is the comfort of divine worship... aka winter sun faiths of Skyrim also by enai!!! It allows you to worship the divines or daedric princes slowing building favor and unlocking new powers through your worship!! There is also Elven, redgaurd, and kahjiit gods you may worship, if you were the appropriate race. Great mod overhaul, currently worshiping the old gods(animal gods)
Leonard would be a great Shadow Mage, the spells are very much up his alley
@Haku infinite Alters? It doesn't really alter anything, just adds new spells to support different playstyles
Lewd yeah npcs don’t even use those spells added, only you are allowed to cast the new spells, and the spell books are immersively added through select vendors.
@@DarkLordDovahkiin yeah, but... Leonard character is no way going to legitimately worship a god :) The only thing he would try to do to them would be to try to fool them or make a deal with them, hoping it would come out in his favour. But wintersun is an amazing mod, though. I think triumvirate might suit Lenny a lot, but we will see. I guess at this point Gopher tries to be very wise with the new mods, and mostly only add anything if it specifically comlements some step in the development of his character.
Holy hell this might possibly be the longest dungeon in the game. No slight at gopher but you really start to notice it when an entire episode is in a dark as hell dungeon
Ah my Wednesday isn't complete without a strong cup of coffee and skyrim by Gopher I swear I don't know what I'm going to do when it all ends hopefully tes 6 will be out by then.
I suspect Skyblivion and Skywind will arrive before TES 6 :)
@@GophersVids I hope so
@@GophersVids Oh yeah I forgot about those 2 for a moment sweet more to look forward to.
@@GophersVids probably both and most of the beyond Skyrim projects
@@GophersVids Modded oblivion and morrowind are just waiting for a gopher lets play!@!!!
Lots of good Inigo quips in this one. :) And he got to kill quite a few spiders!
Finally!, Now Lenny can "Whiz" further
it would be interesting to see what Leonard would come up with to protect his treasures... big impenetrable door? riddle of the ages? maybe a beast or two?
Well thanks Gopher, Haven't thought about playing skyrim for at least a year, AND then here YOU go again. And now all I'm doing is spending hours FINALLY getting all my mods going on SSE...Granted totally worth it good lord Skyrim has never looked or ran better but still here we go again...(First time actually trying SSE never thought the mod support was good enough to switch a few missing I really like but close enough)
1:57 It'd certainly keep the common peasant or bandit out as they'll likely be illiterate.
Maybe back then, but certainly not now. Every joe blow bandit has his own journal where he chronicles his life story and every peasant has letters to his crush and his temple healer in his nightstand. Terrible idea to base your security on current literacy rates, as though those would never rise or fall. So that's still a fail for the Nords.
29:00 Inigo: You see me rolling
quote from the unofficial elder scrolls pages: "All muffle effects stack additively. Values over 1.0 have no additional benefit."
also:
Notes
The magnitude of the Muffle effect is significant. However, the magnitude of enchantments and spells is not displayed in-game. Most built-in enchanted items have a magnitude of 0.5, meaning they are only 50% effective.
The actual effectiveness of the Muffle effect for magnitudes below 1.0 depends on armor weight, i.e. 50% of the noise of Daedric is still much higher than 100% of the noise of Elven.
All custom-enchanted Muffle effects have a magnitude of 1.0, regardless of skill level or soul gem used, making them greatly superior to most built-in enchanted Muffle items.
Vendors will start carrying Boots of Muffling at level 11.
When both invisible and completely muffled (muffle magnitude of 1.0 or more) you are undetectable to most enemies to the point that you can even walk, run, sprint, and jump around in front of hostile NPCs without being noticed.
Muffle can make players almost undetectable to the Falmer, which rely mostly on hearing to detect enemies.
Inigo should have a detect spider ability. Maybe it can be called Inigo's Spider Sense 😄
a thief a warlock and a librarian get in a bar ...all of them started ranting about how utterly stupid are any kind of locks of any kind, race or age are at skyrim while drinking cups of warm milk to piss off the locals ...then they switched to alcohol and got happily drunk
Not sure how much Richard would like Leonard or Stiv.
Warm milk and alchohol. Nasty xD cold milk after being drunk as drunk gets is great though
That was a really fun episode. I'd never thought I would enjoy a dungeon episode that much, but I had actually kinda missed it since its been a rather long while since the last one. And I laughed out loud at the use of traps against the draugr here. Looking forward to each new episode to come :)
Gopher 'tee-hees' like a little girl when he kills the Deathlord with the battering ram trap. Good times.
Honestly your analysis on the puzzle makes me facepalm how I was struggling so much with it in the past.
For some reason the rhyme always threw me off on one of the options xD
I loved it because it made me use my knowledge of the food chain and animal behavior. So middle school level science xD
Realise I'm arguing with lenny and not gopher, but (in my mind) the reason for logic puzzles over locked doors is that it's a crypt. Keys will definitely get lost over the generations, eventually preventing people from getting in. Puzzles circumvent this, and still keep the undead inside so long as they're complicated enough to outsmart a drauger. Probably why getting the puzzle wrong activates a trap, they want the escaping undead to go back to being just dead.
Now I've heard that before, but is it ever stated in-game so Leonard would know at some point?
@@cooper10182 Doubtful, though he's surrounded by nords so could ask one of them. Then again, might be a rather heated topic to raise.
Sorry, but the 'lore' reasons are just kind of daft. There is a 'need' to 'outsmart' draugr who apparently are curious enough (or driven enough) to pull levers and possibly pick up claw keys and insert them into claw 'keyholes'? But there is no need to put some sort of security on all the bloody short cuts out of the boss chamber right back to the exit? That's awfully convenient isn't it? :)
And why do I never ever see these draugr randomly trying to pull levers and put claw keys in doors?
PLUS, why on earth did the maker of the gate want other living people to just be able to enter at will? I mean if I put something in a safe place like that, I'm going to make the combination bloody impossible to figure out or randomly 'zerg'. I mean really, you go to ALL that trouble to make this hard to get in and out and you attitude is "well if you can read I'm OK with you going in whoever you are. As long as you're not a draugr, it should be fine. I'm sure nobody will evil intent will ever find this key." :)
OK as Gopher here (not Leonard): The reason for them is to add puzzle gameplay for the player to solve and feel good about him/herself :)
@@GophersVids ah yes the problems with lore versus gameplay, like the whole Horn of Jurgen dungeon where apparently Delphine just went in the back door where the player has to do the whole dungeon. The back door should be an option for clever players
@@cooper10182 it is! There are a few where I spent so much time exploring that I didn't recognize the areas I had snuck into -- only to realize I had been going into the shortcuts all along. I'm not sure if that's clever but for a long time I thought it was rather weird that the more difficult enemies were showing up earlier in the dungeon and then got progressively weaker. *Facepalm*
I've heard that the Nordic puzzles are more of a ritualistic practice, as opposed to puzzles for adventurers to solve. By completing the rite, priests and warriors and the like are given access to commune with what I would assume to be the dragon priests.
If Lenny wants Orcish equipment... maybe he should consider sweetrolling Orcish settlements?
I've always found it hilarious how Gopher makes sure Leonard's character never thinks of the idea that the traps, switches and simple puzzles are not meant to keep people out but the Draugr in.
It's nice to see that Leonard has come to accept Inigo's playful rolls.
That Draugr Death Overlord made me abandon my first playthrough... Two-handed sword using Nord in full dwarven armour. The dude kept destroying me many times xD seeing those steps up to his throne gave me chills.
- Apocalypso
Another amazing adventure of Inigo the Badass
I love this series and I always can't wait for the next episode.
Combination lock with the combination scribbles somewhere near to it..... Oh damn the nords do that. They even put it on the bleedin' key!
Inigo awaiting round that corner @29:01 just to roll infront of Gopher to bug him :D
I think the one highlight to Nord tombs in their design is that they are literally impossible to enter without the original key. Apart from being impregnable, that is as secure as it could possibly get. In their time, I imagine the key would have kept safe, which would make the tombs completely unable to be opened.
The puzzle is just an ancient Nordic *captcha*, to sort out those vile mer that don't have common sense after stealing a key.
This lock is probably the best in the game. After all education is something that can be controlled so only a select few could actually read. The real question, what were the sarcophagi for before the drauger?
It's terrible. It's the embodiment of what Leonard complains about. Lore claims that the locks are meant to keep draugr trapped inside, but this lock has draugr on the outside. Worse, if you fail the lock it intentionally releases draugr into the world.
About that lever that's behind the locked cage door. Can't agree enough with you. Security by obscurity is never the way.
Also, TH-camr called Lockpicking Lawyer called, he wants to know your location. (actually not, it's a meme)
Can't imagine something worse than a lawyer that you can't keep out of your house.
Does lenny have the detect spells for life and dead yet? The detect dead is great for looting dead bandits in the tall grass.
Life, yes, Dead, not as yet but he HAS noted how useful such a spell could be.
Great video Gopher as always 💖👍
Inigo using the trap to kill the Draugr makes me think of the Broken Arrow Order used in the Military (Broken Arrow is a command used by a command-level leader to drop a devastating payload on their own position when they think they (commander and squad(s)) will be overrun.
I'm so old, I remember 'Broken Arrow' as a Saturday morning western show, starring Michael Ansara as Cochise. Turns out it was based on a 1950 Jimmy Stewart movie.
Look for traps...no traps, don't look for traps....traps. Happens to me everytime lol
Leonard, really? He found the lever, found the room, got poisoned, ran back out (pulled the lever in case anything else was in there) and died of the poison. Pretty obvious.
A-a-and the pants are back!!! 8)
Honestly I don't think Literacy was that High back then in the Pre Elf times.
Literacy had always been a thing in Tamriel, during the First and Second Era there were a lot of literature and scientific/magical advancements. Later Third Era/the Fourth Era are the start of the dark days.
Shalidor and Ysgramor were very literate and,for example, Reman's Empire is remembered as the most advanced one, most of the Guilds were estabilished during Versidue's Akaviri Potentate in the Second Era. The Nords back then, after the extermination of the Dragon Cult, didn't shun magic or knowledge as dangerous or "for the weak".
@@crimsonitaliandragon5453 yeah but the Dragon Cult times were long before the Empire.
@@vincegalila7211 Still, even in the Merethic Era there was Literacy going on.
I remember that Felldir, one of the three that battled Alduin on the Throat of the World was able to read an Elder Scrolls.
Speaking only the Humans, of course. I have spoken of the later eras and Imperial periods as a more "recent" period, but form of literacies there always were on Tamriel.
I doubt Dragon Priests were illiterate.
@@crimsonitaliandragon5453 well that's sort off what I'm saying maybe the Dragon priests Recruited only smart Literate people.
@@vincegalila7211 Possibly.
Nice to had exchanged views with you Vince.
Have a nice day.
Wonder if Leonard would run back for the ore vein after he finds out that’s what Orcish pieces are made with?
Personally, I usually just go to a Stronghold to order some up, as it seems they’re a lot more likely to have the ingots needed to let Honed Metal work for you.
The orc settlement mines are a better place to find orichalcum. No fighting and more mining spots. The ones in the west both have orichalcum mines. The one in The Rift has no mine IIRC and the Eastmarch one has ebony in its mine. Ooooh, ebony!
19:24 Speaking of one of a kind potions, what happened to that white phial quest? I don't think you ever continued it past the death of Nurelion.
Well, since Lenny won't want to go back up to the top of the Throat of the World to collect the unmelting snow (there's a dragon up there!)....,
I think Lenard has definitely lost his touch 😆
53:30 "1, i barely scratching him, B, hes not hitting me"
im slightly confused
... something jumps out and eats your face...😳😲🤨🙃😎
Door to your room, you can close it, right? Would it stop your kids or wife from opening it? No. (Lets assume you don't have a proper lock on it, alright?) But it WILL stop your dog or cat from opening it! See where I'm going here? Only those who can read or smart enough to randomly pull the leavers could open these doors :)
So no one has ever told Leonard that the security in Nordic ruins is almost certainly to keep dead things IN, not keep people OUT.
Does Skyrim really have this much content you can keep a series going for years?
There's a lot of extra stuff that easy to miss, like when I realized later that there were Master quests at the college, or that there were guild quests to unlock by grinding the Thieves guild radiant quests.
Just wondering...would Curators Companion be compatible with your version of LotD ? That way you wouldnt have to worry any longer about missing or picking up items needed for your museum collection.
Good morning Gopher 😊
I say the rooms have 'alarms' that detect life to activate.
And/or the devs added triggers that cause the dragur the wake up when the player crosses through them. Which was extremely scummy of them to do that as it makes the sneak skill a bit pointless if there are instances where enemies will trigger regardless of how high that skill is. Going to blame that likely different people designed each of the dungeons and some just did not like the idea of players sneaking on past all their totally well thought out dungeon encounters.
@@Techhunter_Talon That is the likely explanation, but I was trying for an 'In Character' reason for them to react.
2:01 Bethesda?
Kinda funny how Leonard still doesn't realise Inigo has the light foot perk...and he still doesn't.
Cool more skyrim
Hey gopher, did you chance your mod/game settings? These dungeons are so much darker than I remember
He's actually worked quite hard to make them brighter without ruining the effect.
@@senhowler yes, I remember him talking about that, I was just wondering if he had made changes. could be just me since it's been so long since the last Lenard chapter :P
Something tells me Leonard is unaware that these "locks" aren't meant to keep living things out.
Of course he is. That explanation may be canon, but it's actually even dafter and pretty much marks the ancients as not just stupid, but actually quite mad :)
Hi Gopher possible to share your personal present of the ENB?
Personally I think that the ancient nords knew how stupid their people were, and designed some silly locks to keep exceptionally stupid people out, but let anyone who can manage logic come in, excluding the excessively stupid. Maybe they were all too closely related.
Lenny better then britney spears ever could be 😜
Well, Lenny wanted a Dragon Priest...
I am fully convinced that the Nords of old made these dungeons to keep the stupide undead in because these puzzles are just too easy. Anyone with an IQ over 6 could solve it.
That's actually part of the purpose of the easy to open locked doors or out in the open levers in Skyrim's barrows... and those same undead are the ones that have enough of their mental faculties to tend to the torches and candles in those places.
hay I was wondering can you use a vortex to mod fallout 3 or do I have to use mod manager?
You can use vortex but really no mod manager is all that great with the older games. I find it really best to do them manually or get fallout mod manager. Using the respective mod manager from that generation I have better luck with. For example I still use obmm/wyrebash for oblivion. But yea modding fallout 3 or oblivion and older are a fair bit more hands on.
TL;DR I would use fallout mod manager or just do it manually.
2:14 Simple answer, Thane Leonard: draugr have lost the intelligence necessary to be able to read. Q. E. D. :-)
But apparently retained the intelligence to operate simple machinery? They have the intelligence needed to pull the four levers but not to read the order in which to do it?
Ok, then what if these sort of intelligent but not very literate draugr just start pulling levers randomly? Won't take long to accidentally get the right combination. And why in all this time has no draugr pulled the levers and sprung the trap already? I assume the draugr in that come out of the tombs won't pull levers randomly? Why not? And in the dungeons that have claw keys, you have to assume the draugr understand the concept of a key, a keyhole, how to turn the key in the keyhole BUT not the concept of writing. But then why can't they just keep spinning the wheels until they get lucky? I mean they have to be smart enough to use a key and lock, motivated enough to do it, but not quite motivated or smart enough to spin the wheels.
These draugr have some seriously specific and odd skill sets :)
.... or there is a simpler explanation ......
Is inigo capable of being killed by enemies?
Gary Mustain not normally, no. Inigo by default is essential, I believe.
Gopher should instal combat overhaul. It would allow Leonard to dodge and roll in combat
I really can't see Leonard being willing to get that dusty.
@@jollyjeangiant Yeah ... get hit by sword and get outfit bloody or roll on the floor and get it covered in mud ... Leonard would need five minutes per hit just to process the pros and cons right there.
Do foxes eat snakes?
I feel like the snake was meant to be a rabbit or something, but then they'd need to make a model/texture for it and that'd take time and money so they just shrugged and used the snake instead.
From Wikipedia - "Foxes are omnivores. Their diet is made up primarily of invertebrates such as insects and small vertebrates such as reptiles and birds. They may also eat eggs and vegetation." Snakes are reptiles and some people eat snakemeat as well. Rattlesnake meat, in or out of chili, is eaten in Texas.
I hate the lock picking mini-game enough as is.... I am fine with turning all the puzzles to locks so long as we go back to Morrowind where lock picking was just poke it a few times and it will probably open.
Gopher, I love this playthrough your doing of skyrim, i do. But I can't keep silent anymore. That spell you use "Fade Other" to turn inigo invisible is a spell u can only get through the use of console commands, not even cutting room floor add the spell to the game. It a great spell to be sure, but it unobtainable without using the console command player.addspell 28532
Nothing is unobtainable with mods. Not sure which mod adds it though. But yes you can use the console to get it if you want. You can use the console to get everything and anything (and indeed to do much more). Not sure why you felt you had to keep silent about the dev console though, it's not a secret.
2:36 and, and, who would use password as a password. 😵
Do you play and record later or it improvisation because fair play not to blow smoke up your Harris another classic. on a unrelated note isn't it a nightmare being middle aged all the little twinges and pain's. 50 next year where does the time go.
Gopher you know i have wondered why Skyrim doesn't have the BASILISK as an opposition like they have Dragons? your in caves so much you think that they would have added them in Skyrim because They have been around since 79 AD. so J.K. Rowling does not have the rights to the Basilisk creature no one does it's to old of a myth
Maybe it’s time to let Inigo rest for awhile he seems like he needs some time off. I’ve heard tales of a young bard in Skyrim, goes by Vilja.
ProTeach I would give it 3 days before Leonard would either put a knife in Vilja’s throat or at the very least make a “special” sweet roll for her. He can barely tolerate Serana at times.
Stephen Spradley well it doesn’t have to be vilja. I like inigo aswell it’s just the whole sweet rolls bit has gotten old for me personally aswell as the inigo bugging out constantly. Just want a change of pace
you need to watch the parody Gopha XD sums up your peeves
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your puzzles is (having done this one way to many times)
snake, bear, fox, wolf
just like Bleak falls. just hit each ring 3 times.
also when it comes to these tombs. Who is lighting all the fires and candles. moreover where are they getting them from?
QUESTION: How many of you people know the G in Draugr is Silent and the word is pronounced more like [drau] or [draw-r] ?