@ so he can throw further awesome. Can he also be accurate, consistent, throw with anticipation, lead receivers? Not better than Dart lol btw they have the same amount of career rush yards lmao
I really like Jaxson Dart. Out of all of these players I think Sanders is going to be the best pro but I think Dart has the arm talent as well but just needs a good QB's coach to work on his footwork. I hope the Hawks can pick him up in the 2nd or 3rd round but Mel Kiper thinks he's gonna get drafted in the 1st by a desperate team. Jalen Milroe can't throw the ball man. I could be wrong but I just don't see him having any kind of future in the NFL.
I know you guys touched on the guys in next years class, but this talk I keep hearing about next years class is better...where? If Allar takes a step forward sure because he has the tools. But none of those guys would I take over Sanders or Ward. Milroe is a project but he has elite traits that these guys really dont have. Obviously another year to get better but skillset wise, nothing blows me away. And I'm not sold on any of the underclassmen coming out because you're paid now, you can stay and be king on campus, gain more experience before heading off to NFL.
I can't believe how weak this qb draft is, next year's will be better. Unfortunately, my team needs a qb, but isn't in position to get one. It's crazy.
Stop riding the narrative and watch these QBs. Because media tells you is a bad class. 2021-2022 classes both are worse than this.. Kenny Pickett was the only 1st rounder and he was really a 4th rounder lol
in what world is anyone in next years class better than ward or sanders? allar if he takes a step but nobody in that class even has the traits milroe has. so if they dont have arm talent or traits then how is it a better class lol. its whiter thats about it
I probably watch 5x more college football games than both of these guys combined. I write on the Jets board since I have been doing drafts since the early 1970’s. And before Kiper even opened his mouth about the draft. I always state their is 5 performances that these quarterbacks have to perform. 1. Regular Season and there are 2 parts. Playing games versus easy team. And playing big games versus the best of teams. 2. Bowl Games or Playoff Games 3. The All Star Games 4. The NFL Combine 5. The Players Pro Day Once all of these are completed you get a more better evaluation. So right now its too soon. But the leader right now is Cam Ward. Sanders from all his big games he has not performed. That is BYU, Nebraska, and Kansas. Kansas St he performed well but their defense was suspect. Baylor. Texas Tech, Oklahoma St., Central Florida, Oklahoma St, and Arizona all had terrible defenses. Colorado St. got destroyed in their bowl game by a MAC team. And Utah was not good this year due to injuries. Cincinnati was the only game I missed with Colorado. But my evaluation of Sanders is right now a late 2nd to 3rd round QB due to his bloodlines. And he throws a nice ball. But many QBs can throw a nice ball. As we speak a few QBs are moving up. Obviously Howard of Ohio St. who shows you he can be a leader and this is very important. He can play well in really cold weather. The NFL unlike college all teams have to play in cold weather. Alabama and other SEC teams never had to do that. We watched how Tennessee whiffed playing in the cold versus Ohio St. So as we speak, there are QBs who are better for certain offenses. Like a west coast quick throws offense. Gabriel is excellent for that. There are head scratchers like Milnoe of Alabama. He could look great and look like crap. I had him as one if the top 3 QBs in college before this season started. I would like for him to go in the portal and come back next year. Then there are the intriguing QBS like Dart, Rourke, and the Syracuse QB. All moved way up the draft board after their season they had. I will Watch most everything these QBs are in until the draft.
@@tonymanero8540 unbiased on this but would like your opinion on Riley Leonard from ND? I feel his performances in the playoffs would boost his stock no? Played great imo
That analysis by Rick on Milroe kinda exposed himself there. If you watch the tape Milroe can process and read defenses. His problem is that his mechanics are inconsistent and his accuracy is erratic. Because of this, he hesitates bc he has to "aim" the ball first because he's an arm thrower. You can see him progress through reads on almost every play. He also will see an open receiver low but try to force long throws which is annoying. And another issue is that he immediately becomes a runner if he doesn't like his reads, rather than scrambling and reading the field off script. All of these issues are fixable, but his speed/athleticism is not something you can coach. If you want to compare another college prospect, Josh Allen is a decent comp when he was coming out of Wyoming. Both excellent runners in their own way with mechanics/accuracy issues coming out of college. Not saying he'll be Josh Allen, but he has the tools to be better than him if he works at it. Clearly not a year 1 starter but there are teams who probably value his potential as a round 1 talent. I would not be surprised if he went top 10 due to QB needy teams and mobility being a highly valued trait.
I would like to see the Giants pick Travis Hunter at 3 and snag Jaxson Dart in a later round. Dart has a ton of ability and with Nabers and Hunter on the outside. The Giants have a lot of needs though.
THESE ARE OPINIONS BASED ON THEIR HISTORY IN THE NFL AND SPORTS JOURNALISM. BUT STILL OPINIONS. DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE CORRECT? MAYBE. BUT EVEN SO THAT DOESN’T MEAN ANYONE ELSE WHO DOESN’T HAVE THAT HISTORY KNOWS BETTER. JUST ANOTHER NOT AS RELIABLE OPINION.
The “guys they had hopes for” who became a bust. Kind of goes to their credibility as a suppose expert just a smidgen. Please… Beck got exposed way before the injury. He made the right decision to stay collegiate maybe he can improve his craft.
Yeah these guys opinions are trash 🗑. Everybody knows it's Shedeur and Cam Ward. Then its everybody else. GM aren't listening to this rubbish. You got my view and comments . That's all that matters.
Dart will be the best QB in this class....keep sleepin on him, Some team will hit gold with that dude
Milroe over Dart is just insane. Let’s all forgot that QBs have to throw the ball too
And Milroe has a much stronger arm
@ so he can throw further awesome. Can he also be accurate, consistent, throw with anticipation, lead receivers? Not better than Dart lol btw they have the same amount of career rush yards lmao
@@32jcuevayou can coach his accuracy
You can’t coach that god blessed ability
He said cam ward is like tyrod Taylor are you f kidding me
I really like Jaxson Dart. Out of all of these players I think Sanders is going to be the best pro but I think Dart has the arm talent as well but just needs a good QB's coach to work on his footwork. I hope the Hawks can pick him up in the 2nd or 3rd round but Mel Kiper thinks he's gonna get drafted in the 1st by a desperate team.
Jalen Milroe can't throw the ball man. I could be wrong but I just don't see him having any kind of future in the NFL.
Dart>>>Milroe
I know you guys touched on the guys in next years class, but this talk I keep hearing about next years class is better...where? If Allar takes a step forward sure because he has the tools. But none of those guys would I take over Sanders or Ward. Milroe is a project but he has elite traits that these guys really dont have. Obviously another year to get better but skillset wise, nothing blows me away. And I'm not sold on any of the underclassmen coming out because you're paid now, you can stay and be king on campus, gain more experience before heading off to NFL.
Ward is not more mobile than Milroe 😂
Definitely more pocket presence though.
I can't believe how weak this qb draft is, next year's will be better. Unfortunately, my team needs a qb, but isn't in position to get one. It's crazy.
Stop riding the narrative and watch these QBs. Because media tells you is a bad class. 2021-2022 classes both are worse than this.. Kenny Pickett was the only 1st rounder and he was really a 4th rounder lol
in what world is anyone in next years class better than ward or sanders? allar if he takes a step but nobody in that class even has the traits milroe has. so if they dont have arm talent or traits then how is it a better class lol. its whiter thats about it
@@DK-BayBay We'll see but it can't be worse; so I'll bank on it being better next year.
I probably watch 5x more college football games than both of these guys combined.
I write on the Jets board since I have been doing drafts since the early 1970’s.
And before Kiper even opened his mouth about the draft.
I always state their is 5 performances that these quarterbacks have to perform.
1. Regular Season and there are 2 parts. Playing games versus easy team. And playing big games versus the best of teams.
2. Bowl Games or Playoff Games
3. The All Star Games
4. The NFL Combine
5. The Players Pro Day
Once all of these are completed you get a more better evaluation. So right now its too soon.
But the leader right now is Cam Ward.
Sanders from all his big games he has not performed. That is BYU, Nebraska, and Kansas. Kansas St he performed well but their defense was suspect. Baylor. Texas Tech, Oklahoma St., Central Florida, Oklahoma St, and Arizona all had terrible defenses. Colorado St. got destroyed in their bowl game by a MAC team. And Utah was not good this year due to injuries.
Cincinnati was the only game I missed with Colorado.
But my evaluation of Sanders is right now a late 2nd to 3rd round QB due to his bloodlines. And he throws a nice ball. But many QBs can throw a nice ball.
As we speak a few QBs are moving up.
Obviously Howard of Ohio St. who shows you he can be a leader and this is very important.
He can play well in really cold weather. The NFL unlike college all teams have to play in cold weather.
Alabama and other SEC teams never had to do that. We watched how Tennessee whiffed playing in the cold versus Ohio St.
So as we speak, there are QBs who are better for certain offenses. Like a west coast quick throws offense. Gabriel is excellent for that.
There are head scratchers like Milnoe of Alabama. He could look great and look like crap. I had him as one if the top 3 QBs in college before this season started. I would like for him to go in the portal and come back next year.
Then there are the intriguing QBS like Dart, Rourke, and the Syracuse QB.
All moved way up the draft board after their season they had.
I will Watch most everything these QBs are in until the draft.
@@tonymanero8540 unbiased on this but would like your opinion on Riley Leonard from ND? I feel his performances in the playoffs would boost his stock no? Played great imo
That analysis by Rick on Milroe kinda exposed himself there. If you watch the tape Milroe can process and read defenses. His problem is that his mechanics are inconsistent and his accuracy is erratic. Because of this, he hesitates bc he has to "aim" the ball first because he's an arm thrower. You can see him progress through reads on almost every play. He also will see an open receiver low but try to force long throws which is annoying. And another issue is that he immediately becomes a runner if he doesn't like his reads, rather than scrambling and reading the field off script. All of these issues are fixable, but his speed/athleticism is not something you can coach. If you want to compare another college prospect, Josh Allen is a decent comp when he was coming out of Wyoming. Both excellent runners in their own way with mechanics/accuracy issues coming out of college. Not saying he'll be Josh Allen, but he has the tools to be better than him if he works at it. Clearly not a year 1 starter but there are teams who probably value his potential as a round 1 talent. I would not be surprised if he went top 10 due to QB needy teams and mobility being a highly valued trait.
@@azikkii u are on crack
Didn’t hear anything about Caleb Williams horrible game at ND …..
I agree about Allar even saw a couple of Penn St. games and agree with Spielman. If he came out in this draft I think he would still go 1st round...
hes not a starter at the nfl level
Dart is a future Super Star
Why are we acting like Dart is the only one that played in a non-NFL offense? Did any of these guys watch Miami or Colorado?
I watched both. Cam is the real deal. Sanders is not a 1st round pick. Thats s definite.
"The GT game was horrendous" my dude he went 25/39 348 3 TDs 0 picks. If that is considered horrendous then i guess ill take it 😂😂
the way he plays Cam Ward’s comp is Johnny Manziel. Makes some unbelievable plays and some unbelievably stupid ones
I would like to see the Giants pick Travis Hunter at 3 and snag Jaxson Dart in a later round. Dart has a ton of ability and with Nabers and Hunter on the outside. The Giants have a lot of needs though.
Trade back, go BPA, grab Dart or or Milroe later in the draft, sign a bridge QB. Team needs more picks and has more important needs than WR.
The Giants are an embarrassment. Another year with a garbage front office.
@@BlacknGoldnRed thanks for the profound take. So thoughtful
A lot of teams are desperate for a QB, there’s a chance he goes first round!
Those comps were terrible and lazy 😂.
All comps are terrible and lazy
they often are
Why? Elaborate please.
NY Giants draft QB Jaxson Dart Ole Mississippi 🙂
Correction: stroud played great but did not beat Georgia
Yeah, because they took out Harrison
@@michaelbeale559 Because he was hurt
I cant agree with these guys... i watched enough of these games to tell you sanders is pick 17 18 at highest and jaxon dart in second round is a steal
He can can read Defense yall funny bro
Which QB would best fit for the NY Giants?!
Tyrod sounds racist 😂
What makes you think he isn't?
Who are these two and what is their extensive NFL experience again?
THESE ARE OPINIONS BASED ON THEIR HISTORY IN THE NFL AND SPORTS JOURNALISM. BUT STILL OPINIONS. DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE CORRECT? MAYBE. BUT EVEN SO THAT DOESN’T MEAN ANYONE ELSE WHO DOESN’T HAVE THAT HISTORY KNOWS BETTER. JUST ANOTHER NOT AS RELIABLE OPINION.
Waiting
Y’all so wrong 😂
The “guys they had hopes for” who became a bust. Kind of goes to their credibility as a suppose expert just a smidgen. Please… Beck got exposed way before the injury. He made the right decision to stay collegiate maybe he can improve his craft.
To compare Cam Ward and Tyrod Taylor is complete idiocy. The only similarity is that they're both Black
These guys don’t know what they are talking about
Come on spielman your comp is tyrod taylor that is so weak ! Why puckvhim #1 if your comparing him tova 5tcrd player thatvis so weak.
Yeah these guys opinions are trash 🗑. Everybody knows it's Shedeur and Cam Ward. Then its everybody else. GM aren't listening to this rubbish. You got my view and comments . That's all that matters.
i dont understand your complaint. u just said its shedeur, cam then everybody else. they literally said both of them are gonna be the 1st two picks.
@@blessembreaksright?! Maybe he should’ve watched the video before complaining? Lol
Wtf you on about
If Titans were smart they would trade back get 2 or 3 1's and and tank for Arch
Howard is a backup QB for a few years and will be a car salesman in Ohio after a few years
Milroe is clearly the best QB in the draft 😅