03:24 State of LCS 24:56 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Jungle Changes) 29:44 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Sejuani) 31:33 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Akali) 34:48 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Senna) 41:06 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Yuumi) 45:51 Team Liquid Finally Together (TL vs IMT) 55:48 Xmithie TL Handshake 57:41 TL vs CLG 01:03:22 Thoughts on Broxah 01:08:39 Thoughts on Doublelift 01:20:05 Thoughts on Cloud9 01:27:23 2020 C9 in comparison to the old NA Greats (2016 TSM) 01:32:18 C9 in comparison to the old NA Greats (2016 IMT) 01:38:52 Counter Logic Blaming 02:00:00 Hot or Not (GGS) 02:04:10 Hot or Not (IMT) 02:10:27 Inconsistent TSM 02:16:38 Tweet of the week (leena_xu) 02:22:01 Regi is back!
People like to shit on Dgon for not being very knowledgable/skilled at league, for being plat or whatever. But that's not his job. Dgon is a host, and as a host he is stellar. He's charismatic, good looking, his voice is smooth as caramel, his questions are great, his segments are great, he lead discussions really well. He lowers the toxicity level to habitable. Tbh the fact that loco and thorin have 3 shows a piece sometimes and dgon is only on one is a damn shame, he makes facecheck my favourite podcast for league I'm sorry toxic nerds, we all enjoy a good flame fest, but you're a dime a dozen, dgon puts some much need charisma to a frankly kinda awkward scene.
@@duuet5614 Dgon getting hate comments here are way too many to just write it off as a joke. This right here deserves top comment as the comment section on dom's podcasts can get way too toxic for a thing that's supposed to be serious and analytic.
I always say the same thing about the Riot casters when people criticize them for their analysis. People don’t realize that’s only a fraction of the value they add to a broadcast
The entire planet unanimously agreed Loco was out of line Loco: "mumblemumble im sorry *BUT ITS DGONS FAULT HES REPLACEABLE* ....Aaaaaaaand here we go again.
hey dom pls continue doing these after i watch the whole thing i just sit here waiting for next week, literally checked my phone like 10 times this moring to check if it was on (its 11am here in perth) so thank christ its here and listening to the first 5mins or so (ironic haha as u said that the only comments u got were from the first 5 mins) but ill watch all of it promise, pls dont stop doing these vids is what im sayin man im super happy that they come out, been a fan for ages man love ur content
I really like Dom's take on Costreaming & would just like to add that I have the same view on the Podcasts too, the reason I enjoy multiple podcasts is that I can get different insights and viewpoints to enchance my understanding behind reasoning behind draft, plays etc.. Especially with inside information that is otherwise not available (example: Crackdown & Elitists united are usually my best way to get LEC behind the scenes so far this season, where as facecheck is better for LCS).
I mean everyone is replaceable. Also this community isnt that toxic. If you actually spent 10 seconds in almost any other esports community they are ready to murder ever and ruin anyones life. Thats only touching esports not the real world. If you think this community is toxic youll have a rough time in the real world.
focodoco considering I’m more heavily involved in the FGC. I can say without a shadow of a doubt League is the most toxic esports community that I’m a part of. Everyone’s got the worst possible mindset and love to blame everything other than themselves. I occasionally get a rager in Tekken, but 90% of the time we compliment each other after a long set.
@@GoodOlChippy1 It's a teamgame. It's *way* easier to blame everything other than themselves in teamgames than it is in a 1v1 game. And considering you are only playing with 1 other person instead of 9 it obviously happens way less often that someone rages/flames (per game) if you are not a rager yourself. Like, cmon man. It's obvious that a teamgame is way more toxic.
10:00 about the difference in his and LS' co stream. I tune in to LS stream for draft, go to Doms for the game and to the main stream when Flowers is on cause I really like the guy :)
If it's not Jatt/Flowers I will probably be flopping between LS/Dom. Nobody else really catches my attention in NA caster wise. Kobe used to, but his game sense has been so bad lately almost Pastry levels bad. Don't understand what happened to him at all.
Jesus christ glad I'm not the only one. I can load 1080p youtube videos with no buffering and can't watch a 480p twitch clip without buffering every 2 seconds
@@ktanimefreak1 Idk if it will help but the Xtra app for Twitch is leagues better than the official Twitch app. Xtra also has native FFZ and BTTV emote support
I just want to say the transformation of Svensgaren from 2016 is actually insane look at him then and look at him now good for him, both as a player and a person
Credit where credit due, I'm glad Loco (and the guys) addressed last episode's intro and bantered it and Loco apologised. Bias aside, was well accepted!
You know, I haven't played this game since s3, but I still watch every episode.I'm not sure why, but it helps pass the time doing the dishes I guess ;)
I think your show would be so much better if you added clips from the plays you are talking about. Sometimes it is difficult to visualize everything you guys are trying to say. Love the show though, you guys keep up the good work!
Regarding the viewership thing, it's more to do with the fact that on Riot's site, the one they link to in the client to watch LCS defaults to the TH-cam player. Might be on purpose but we don't really know. Plus the setting to switch it to Twitch is kinda hard to find.
When Loco talks about the difference between choosing between “LPP and media” at around 8:23 what does he mean? Maybe a dumb question but I searched google and am still clueless. 😬
He meant choosing between being in the league partner program (like dom and content creators generally) and being a press guy for the game. He chose being a press guy like travis and other journalists
Another thing about co-streaming, I have actually gone back watched a stream I have already watched from a different caster just to experience different perspective. I hardly ever watch the LCS stream by itself tho lol
i agree with one thing for sure that dom said. if you dont perform in any job you get replaced. even in pro sports when you are a high paid player and you suck you get benched for a couple games to get your head back on straight. it doesnt need to be permanent, just give some of these dudes some space.
Not sure if you guys reading comments or not. But when you apologise for something never say "but" in same sentence lol. I'm neutral as love the content and keep it up :). Cheers
It wasn’t a fluke. They’re just normal people who are friends with each other. They can always talk afterwards about the issue (people can’t grasp this for some reason).
For the first point on TH-cam having more viewership, isn't the "rewards" system tied to TH-cam video/stream playing on the lol-esports website? That would partially explain the high increase in viewership numbers. Just a thought ;)
Not sure it would be too much work, but if you could, could you make compilations of your co-stream commentary for the weeks? I really enjoy watching them and every now and then i miss one or two games so it would help fill us in while being able to follow the win predictions.
There is more and more ppl watching LCS on YT only because you can pause and go back to watch sth 2nd time, and you cant do that on twitch (+ if you use lolesports watch, its just 1 click away and its much better) so its not YT its just better function on lolesport site
Omg broxah is here! Lets go TL! *proceeds to get smashed by IMT* Well... that was interesting... Its going to be next split until they are performing like a number one team. Or even late spring split if the work is put in. Cant expect a pro player to switch regions, coach, AND team mates and come out looking like same-old from previous team.
Because hes an awful coach. Just watch *breaking point. He has absolutely no idea how to talk to people or manage personalities which is one of 2 requirements to be a coach (other is having game knowledge obviously but even loco's game knowledge is questionable at this point)
By far the worst feeling change on akali was not her w and not her ult at all. It was by far her q cost increase, her laning phase is horrendously terrible that she cant do much anymore unless the other player just doesnt have hands. and at that point you could beat that player playing any champion in the game
Dom. Why are your twitch vods sub only? People who sub are gonna sub regardless and people who don't are not gonna start too. So you might as well make it for everyone and make money off the ads cause of higher viewership? Idk I could be wrong about viewership and could not be that big of difference?
I have to disagree on Doms take about C9 not being at the top of skilled play. I understand that a better team would of capitalized on a 2-0 Renek that early in the game, but saying C9 would be fighting for a 5th place in LEC because of this 1 mistake? What about the other 7 games they played?
The reason Leena clapped some random in the IG comments is because he mocked her for modeling (posting selfies/bikini photos) instead of growing the business.
im calling it now akali is gonna be the soraka slayer of top lane. soraka wants to keep you away and akali can stick to her like fucking glue. we havent seen it yet but im sure its gonna be a solid counter pick against soraka and maybe sona
it feels really hard to watch content with loco after seeing how he acts when he doesnt think cameras are on. Love the show dom and Dgon, I enjoy listening to loco's insights too however i feel like the atmosphere he brings isn't much.
03:24 State of LCS
24:56 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Jungle Changes)
29:44 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Sejuani)
31:33 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Akali)
34:48 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Senna)
41:06 Patch 10.3 Breakdown (Yuumi)
45:51 Team Liquid Finally Together (TL vs IMT)
55:48 Xmithie TL Handshake
57:41 TL vs CLG
01:03:22 Thoughts on Broxah
01:08:39 Thoughts on Doublelift
01:20:05 Thoughts on Cloud9
01:27:23 2020 C9 in comparison to the old NA Greats (2016 TSM)
01:32:18 C9 in comparison to the old NA Greats (2016 IMT)
01:38:52 Counter Logic Blaming
02:00:00 Hot or Not (GGS)
02:04:10 Hot or Not (IMT)
02:10:27 Inconsistent TSM
02:16:38 Tweet of the week (leena_xu)
02:22:01 Regi is back!
I'm curious as to how much input IWDominate has with the TL squad, whether there is an avenue for him providing jungle advice.
@@anthonyortiz7924 Most likely none, he's just branded under TL as a streamer. I very much doubt he has any influence in a coaching capacity
is it not patch 10.4, not 10.3?
How is people still willing to work with loco??
People like to shit on Dgon for not being very knowledgable/skilled at league, for being plat or whatever. But that's not his job.
Dgon is a host, and as a host he is stellar.
He's charismatic, good looking, his voice is smooth as caramel, his questions are great, his segments are great, he lead discussions really well. He lowers the toxicity level to habitable.
Tbh the fact that loco and thorin have 3 shows a piece sometimes and dgon is only on one is a damn shame, he makes facecheck my favourite podcast for league
I'm sorry toxic nerds, we all enjoy a good flame fest, but you're a dime a dozen, dgon puts some much need charisma to a frankly kinda awkward scene.
It's usually just a joke so calm it down dude. This happens to every known person
@@duuet5614 Dgon getting hate comments here are way too many to just write it off as a joke. This right here deserves top comment as the comment section on dom's podcasts can get way too toxic for a thing that's supposed to be serious and analytic.
@@PenguinBaconPH honestly you right but that's how it always it with dom fans
I always say the same thing about the Riot casters when people criticize them for their analysis. People don’t realize that’s only a fraction of the value they add to a broadcast
This is DGON burner acct
The entire planet unanimously agreed Loco was out of line
Loco: "mumblemumble im sorry *BUT ITS DGONS FAULT HES REPLACEABLE*
....Aaaaaaaand here we go again.
I love how you guys were able to laugh all that off, good for you guys!
hey dom pls continue doing these after i watch the whole thing i just sit here waiting for next week, literally checked my phone like 10 times this moring to check if it was on (its 11am here in perth) so thank christ its here and listening to the first 5mins or so (ironic haha as u said that the only comments u got were from the first 5 mins) but ill watch all of it promise, pls dont stop doing these vids is what im sayin man im super happy that they come out, been a fan for ages man love ur content
Watch crackdown! The new one is out now and I love the thorin/dom combo.
How could you replace my boi Dgon best talkshow host in this town.
wouldn't watch without him
@@SuperLio333 Me neither.
I mean everyone in the world is replaceable in the work force.
Was sitting here thinking, "Where's the Facecheck?" checked Dom's channel, nothing, refresh, and my Wednesday is complete lol
same.. I think it was twitch rivals, and crackdown delaying the release
Philip Kay ?
@@baconbeast4819 ? Dom had crackdown episode in the morning and then a tournament right after, so it probably delayed the episode release.
When Loco said “There was ListenLoco” he almost burst out in tears
Then Dom said "and Crackdown" just to rub it in a little lol
Could you give timestamp?
@@czowieksonce5777 18:10
Why is there no more Listen Loco? What happened? I was wondering why it hasn't been airing?
@@javierareas7774 Cuz Loco is a trash person who treated Thorin like shit. So, Thorin said fuck this shit i'm out.
Dom called Pobelter coming to CLG to replace Crown
i called it before him but i get no credit D:... tweed about it weeks ago tbh. But im a nobody. Just a grunt
@@mylastaccount8328 How sad!
@@mylastaccount8328 then what
@@zealous404 then what.
wat
@@mylastaccount8328 give us more predictions
LS aka Liandries Salesman....
Under rated comment this is facts
It's such a good item, one of the best actually.
@@hogmuncher LS alt?
He is getting kickbacks somehow
LS aka Lose to Shopkeeper
Clearly both Dgon and Loco are replaceable but the TRUE king of being replaceable is Zirene :D
damn
He got replaced by nothing that's how replaceable Zirene is .
@@drewbg333 that is more like disposable ROFL
No one has replaced zirene wtf
@@michaelsmaha2864 Hence the word "disposable"
Ofc it is all a joke, I mean no disrespect to anyone whatsoever (except loco)
I really like dgon please don't replace
get loco kicked off another show pls.
LOL
I really like Dom's take on Costreaming & would just like to add that I have the same view on the Podcasts too, the reason I enjoy multiple podcasts is that I can get different insights and viewpoints to enchance my understanding behind reasoning behind draft, plays etc.. Especially with inside information that is otherwise not available (example: Crackdown & Elitists united are usually my best way to get LEC behind the scenes so far this season, where as facecheck is better for LCS).
how is loco not replacable? just get google to read "play easy comps" on repeat
you mean "oof, i was SHOCKED they didn't just play an easy comp"
This community is so impressively toxic and dumb
I mean everyone is replaceable. Also this community isnt that toxic. If you actually spent 10 seconds in almost any other esports community they are ready to murder ever and ruin anyones life. Thats only touching esports not the real world. If you think this community is toxic youll have a rough time in the real world.
focodoco considering I’m more heavily involved in the FGC. I can say without a shadow of a doubt League is the most toxic esports community that I’m a part of. Everyone’s got the worst possible mindset and love to blame everything other than themselves. I occasionally get a rager in Tekken, but 90% of the time we compliment each other after a long set.
@@GoodOlChippy1 It's a teamgame. It's *way* easier to blame everything other than themselves in teamgames than it is in a 1v1 game. And considering you are only playing with 1 other person instead of 9 it obviously happens way less often that someone rages/flames (per game) if you are not a rager yourself. Like, cmon man. It's obvious that a teamgame is way more toxic.
10:00 about the difference in his and LS' co stream.
I tune in to LS stream for draft, go to Doms for the game and to the main stream when Flowers is on cause I really like the guy :)
If it's not Jatt/Flowers I will probably be flopping between LS/Dom. Nobody else really catches my attention in NA caster wise. Kobe used to, but his game sense has been so bad lately almost Pastry levels bad. Don't understand what happened to him at all.
I have both LS and Dom on since LS rarely talks.
Personally I prefer youtube over twitch when I'm watching on my phone, I feel like twitch moblie app kinda sucks especially for vods
Yeah for some reason it takes forever to load for me n video stutters.
Jesus christ glad I'm not the only one. I can load 1080p youtube videos with no buffering and can't watch a 480p twitch clip without buffering every 2 seconds
Yeah
@@ktanimefreak1 Idk if it will help but the Xtra app for Twitch is leagues better than the official Twitch app. Xtra also has native FFZ and BTTV emote support
Zirene ?
I think I've watched every (other) episode of facecheck all the way through. Last week I cringed so hard in the first 15 minutes I just stopped
Same LOL I couldn’t bring myself to watch that episode after listening to loco in the beginning
Thats a memory we will never be able to suppress
Love the start of this episode way better then the last one. You guys had me laughing so much hahahahaha
Lol I watched the whole episode and I don’t hate loco I just feel he is the most replaceable
actually tragic they tal;ked about CLG right before it was announced Pobe was joining them
Dom talking about the inting support being an engage was my favorite part of this episode
I just want to say the transformation of Svensgaren from 2016 is actually insane look at him then and look at him now good for him, both as a player and a person
By far the best LoL podcast out there just because flaming lcs players is so funny
Why is loco part of the show ??? Make him a once in a million kind of guest.
Oh yah baby nice and early for facecheck!
Credit where credit due, I'm glad Loco (and the guys) addressed last episode's intro and bantered it and Loco apologised. Bias aside, was well accepted!
From one Dgon to another keep up the good work!
Just invite LS already so you guys can directly debate your opinions against theirs
You know, I haven't played this game since s3, but I still watch every episode.I'm not sure why, but it helps pass the time doing the dishes I guess ;)
Loco is still here okay someone start a change petition.
As an european viewer, I find it much more enyoyablele to follow what happens in LCS with facecheck and the crackdown. So yeah, good job guys.
I think your show would be so much better if you added clips from the plays you are talking about. Sometimes it is difficult to visualize everything you guys are trying to say. Love the show though, you guys keep up the good work!
Regarding the viewership thing, it's more to do with the fact that on Riot's site, the one they link to in the client to watch LCS defaults to the TH-cam player. Might be on purpose but we don't really know. Plus the setting to switch it to Twitch is kinda hard to find.
The only times the games look close vs c9 are in champ select and loading screen
When Loco talks about the difference between choosing between “LPP and media” at around 8:23 what does he mean? Maybe a dumb question but I searched google and am still clueless. 😬
He meant choosing between being in the league partner program (like dom and content creators generally) and being a press guy for the game. He chose being a press guy like travis and other journalists
Sharan Benny Thank you
thoughts on the pobelter pickup for CLG?
Will Facecheck ever come to spotify? I would love to listen to Dom's flame on the go.
no, dom, I don't know what "two-factor authentification" is xP (8:07)
Loved it, great job
Another thing about co-streaming, I have actually gone back watched a stream I have already watched from a different caster just to experience different perspective. I hardly ever watch the LCS stream by itself tho lol
"You're a fucking League player, you don't have it in you to strangle someone" LOL holy shit that's funny.
Could you upload your co-streams on TH-cam
It's not allowed
is it on twitch? how do we watch
Dom and viewers are like the men holding the money while DGon and Loco are they monkeys fighting on simpsons lol
u guys are my fav league podcast
Loco is such a child Jesus Christ lmao
i agree with one thing for sure that dom said. if you dont perform in any job you get replaced. even in pro sports when you are a high paid player and you suck you get benched for a couple games to get your head back on straight. it doesnt need to be permanent, just give some of these dudes some space.
Jesus Christ Dom is really committed to making the name Keith McGrief stick! 2:01:00
Not sure if you guys reading comments or not. But when you apologise for something never say "but" in same sentence lol. I'm neutral as love the content and keep it up :). Cheers
Super happy to see that some of the flame was a fluke last week, the first bit of the show was so wholesome.
It wasn’t a fluke. They’re just normal people who are friends with each other. They can always talk afterwards about the issue (people can’t grasp this for some reason).
@dgon, Golden Guardians don't have the second longest win streak at 3. TSM won 4 in a row. 2-0 for weeks 2 and 3. Js. :D
haha i'm loco swearing when i try and get my point across is funny.
For the first point on TH-cam having more viewership, isn't the "rewards" system tied to TH-cam video/stream playing on the lol-esports website? That would partially explain the high increase in viewership numbers. Just a thought ;)
Not sure it would be too much work, but if you could, could you make compilations of your co-stream commentary for the weeks? I really enjoy watching them and every now and then i miss one or two games so it would help fill us in while being able to follow the win predictions.
Isn't it patch 10.4 coming live?
There is more and more ppl watching LCS on YT only because you can pause and go back to watch sth 2nd time, and you cant do that on twitch (+ if you use lolesports watch, its just 1 click away and its much better) so its not YT its just better function on lolesport site
Locodoco value is just as good as his "behind the scenes" knowledge
Can LS coach CLG even though he's casting LCK? Doesn't that break his contract or something about being part of a team?
"Loco used to be at MIG as a kpop star"
why is that twig loco still here???
Omg ty for uploading this
dgon is a great host and a fun guy he makes the show go kinda like thoorin does on his.
So zirene ragequit for good?
Omg broxah is here! Lets go TL!
*proceeds to get smashed by IMT*
Well... that was interesting...
Its going to be next split until they are performing like a number one team. Or even late spring split if the work is put in. Cant expect a pro player to switch regions, coach, AND team mates and come out looking like same-old from previous team.
Surely loco is more replaceable than dgon?
It'd be nice if C9 does well internationally but making finals at msi with a 3-1 over the defending world champs is a high bar for spring
Why did loco get fired from golden guardians?
He's still under nda until the end of the month. He's hinted at spilling all the tea after it's over.
Because hes an awful coach. Just watch *breaking point. He has absolutely no idea how to talk to people or manage personalities which is one of 2 requirements to be a coach (other is having game knowledge obviously but even loco's game knowledge is questionable at this point)
@@jimai808 breaking point*
@@vendetta7dj640 you right. Edited to correct it.
By far the worst feeling change on akali was not her w and not her ult at all. It was by far her q cost increase, her laning phase is horrendously terrible that she cant do much anymore unless the other player just doesnt have hands. and at that point you could beat that player playing any champion in the game
TH-cam is the way ... honestly being able to rewind/pause then 1.25 speed back to live or w/e is super op ... fuck the little bit worse quality
Keep killing it dudes 👍
I personally watch the LCS on TH-cam because I have TH-cam Red, so I don’t get any outside ads.
it’s just easier to be honest. I don’t like how you can’t go back in twitch mid stream, youtube fixes that issue
@@danielcampos5727 100% Agree
I watch on TH-cam because I have more control over stopping/rewinding/skipping different segments.
The first 10 seconds LMAO
That thumbnail LOL ahhhhhh
1:54:45 Well, looks like Dom Called it
I love this show.
Loco is still here =/
i tried to get him removed but he wouldnt budge =/
Ethan Hsu seems reasonable to me. He’s not obliged his reason for flaming to us plebs, but he did anyways.
Dom. Why are your twitch vods sub only? People who sub are gonna sub regardless and people who don't are not gonna start too. So you might as well make it for everyone and make money off the ads cause of higher viewership? Idk I could be wrong about viewership and could not be that big of difference?
Get loco out
Loco still shifting the blame to dgon, pathetic
Chad Xmithie, spiciest I've ever seen him LMAO
I have to disagree on Doms take about C9 not being at the top of skilled play. I understand that a better team would of capitalized on a 2-0 Renek that early in the game, but saying C9 would be fighting for a 5th place in LEC because of this 1 mistake? What about the other 7 games they played?
Oh man, cant wait for them to cover this pobelter crown swap
Loco still on the show WeirdChamp
I watch LCS on YT because my shitty ISP for some reason hates streaming twitch on anything above 360p. I miss twitch chat tho.
Get rid of loco
No dom, we didnt watch that episode, there was no way were going to deal with that fuckin attitude from Loco for another hour+ lmao.
I love watching the show so loco can get shit on by dom
Mr FoodFrostFiend As much as I would like someone else instead of Loco, it’s pretty entertaining to see Dom shit on him.
Waiting for someone to compare the TL play style to every Uzi team but worse bc DL isn't as good as Uzi. How many times has Uzi won worlds again?
Shouldn’t this be 10.4?
2:10 So Truuuuuue, I only watched that part and the tweets parts, if I don't see dom tweets in the titles I'm out.
whew thank god, I was worried maybe you guys had broken up after last time
I switched to youtube completely because twitch's site is just really unoptimised compared to youtube.
Why not compare this c9 with the original? They went 25-3 on regular season, highest of all time
The reason Leena clapped some random in the IG comments is because he mocked her for modeling (posting selfies/bikini photos) instead of growing the business.
LETS GET IT!
im calling it now akali is gonna be the soraka slayer of top lane. soraka wants to keep you away and akali can stick to her like fucking glue. we havent seen it yet but im sure its gonna be a solid counter pick against soraka and maybe sona
Just based on the fact that Loco said that he thought something might happen Im gonna say it was Matt
it feels really hard to watch content with loco after seeing how he acts when he doesnt think cameras are on.
Love the show dom and Dgon, I enjoy listening to loco's insights too however i feel like the atmosphere he brings isn't much.
the crack down infinitely better than facecheck anyway lmao
Feelsgoodman