Has there been terrorist attacks in the UK since her citizenship was removed ? If it puts fear in potential terrorists, then good. At 15 you are old enough to understand that murder is bad, she knew ISIS's aims and they certainly weren't to spread peace in the literal sense. After all she's been taught and influenced by her surroundings who also think the same
@@RobsonHoldingyes. it's people like you who are responsible everyone gets away with heinous shit on this continent. your far-left "reintegration" theories turned europe from basically heaven on earth into an absolute shithole. if a 15 year old stabs someone to death, he shouldn't see a bird under the clear blue sky any day before their 60th birthday. the US has many problems and does a lot of stuff worse than we do in europe. but at least people don't get away with heinous shit there on a 99 out of 100% basis.
She stated that she did not regret travelling to ISIS controlled Syria and said that she "had a good time". There are no credible suspicions she was a victim of trafficking at all, because she went on her own accord and thoroughly enjoyed her trip even after it had all happened.
@@tjae1580it won’t because it’s not genocide, it’s not an army of savages turning women into sex slaves. Why don’t you turn on that rotten piece of meat you call a brain before you lower the iq of the whole planet with your mindless drivel. 🖕
But, realistically she was a minor and there's no way you can convince a minor living in a relatively stable environment particularly in the west to up and leave for a unstable war zone without some level of coercing and grooming. You don't convince them to do it over one simple text, you'd build a rapport with them feel heard and seen before you start manipualting them. Many grown adults have been manipulated by cults to make terrible choices, so why is it any different?
@@TomiZ29sorry but enticing someone is not the same as coercing someone. You can entice someone with promises of adventure and purpose but that isn't coercion. She chose to go and must live with the consequences.
@@columnedfox5508yeah, when she was 15. We understand as a society that a 15 year old's brain is not developed enough to be fully responsible for their decision, so what is the difference here? She's a failure of PREVENT. She should be here in prison for life. She's our problem.
It’s a legal thing. You can keep appealing all the way to the European court of human rights I believe. Before that she’ll go to Supreme Court. She probably has a couple of appeals left until she runs out of appeal options. Then they’ll try ‘new evidence’ and appeal with that. Legal process is pretty relentless
Apparently she has Bangladeshi citizenship, but they don't want her either, if she returns they will probably use the death penalty, the biggest mistake UK Government could make is to let here back on UK soil, the kick off would not be pretty !
British government didn't strip her of her citizenship, she relinquished it. She freely went to join the Islamic state meaning she gave up her previous citizenship.
The act of burning your passport by itself doesn't represent formal relinquishment your citizenship, but the calculated decision to travel to Syria, join ISIS to live "pure islamic life" is good enough to deprive her of the UK citizenship. Basically, if she finds a way to return, she would be detained and deported or maybe even worse.
Had ISIS been successful in their missions in Syria, she would still be actively fighting for their cause and remain in Syria today. Think about it. She's just begging for sympathy now to return to Britain when things haven't worked out for her. Serves her right.
She wants to return, write books, bec a millionaire and do media tours and make millions of £’s. I just saw 🇺🇸 -born girl who went to Syria and now wants to return. She is willing to stay in prison in the 🇺🇸. Nope. We don’t need to house and feed her! She looks well-fed and comfortable where she is! We have law-abiding ppl here who have to go to food pantries to get food and have jobs but live in their cars. She doesn’t need to live in the 5-star prison accommodations with free room and board and free healthcare etc. The Syrians are taking great care of her! She is home sweet home! 🏡
@@kittykatz4001fr, staying in a shithole refugee camp surrounded by those they wronged while thinking of the US and UK is torture a plenty for these gits
She was smuggled into Syria by a smuggler then held in a building with about 100 other women and weren’t allowed to leave until they were married. It definitely fits the definition of trafficking. She was lied to about what it was like there, how she would be treated she was groomed into being a terrorist. I do think she could be a danger but I think she should be imprisoned in the uk instead of in prison camps in Syria
@chaosmonkey9987. Are you saying British IDF volunteers are imprisoning British Palestinians in Gaza? My understanding is that people who have dual citizenship left Gaza to avoid the fighting. Do you know otherwise?
Shamima Begum had Bangladesh citizenship until it was removed on her 21st birthday by the Bangladesh government. This is not an issue for the British government to consider, they did not strip her of this nor can they reinstate this. Her claims of being stateless are not the responsibility of the British government.
If you check the time line she has had bangledesh citizenship, at time her British citizenship was revoked her Bangladesh citizenship had been cancelled about 2 to 3 years prior. Again that's not the British governments issue. Best she tries to regain her Bangladesh citizenship.
I noticed how many people repeat conspiracy theories they read online, which are dismissed as they don't have any proof. Yet nobody talks about easily proved historical facts, that are different than what the media tell them to think. Such as as how Afghanistan wasn't extremist until the USA were arming and training the extremists there in the 80s against Russia. Then the USA didn't care what the extremists were doing in Afghanistan all through the 90s, such as females banned from education and blowing up ancient Buddhist statues, until 9/11 in 2001. Now after many British people were killed going to war with the USA against the Taliban after 9/11, the USA has given up and now left the Taliban to run Afghanistan. While our media and government couldn't care what goes on there. Everywhere Britain and the USA has become involved in such as Iraq, then becomes an extremist training ground to harm our own people. The only news channel which talked about those things was Russia Today, which has been banned from our TV and internet, and we think we're a free country. Also the when British people are harmed by extremists who trained in Libya after Gaddafi was killed, such as tourists being shot in Tunisia and blown up in the Manchester concert, the media don't remind us of when the secret service whistle blower David Shayler told how Britain was going along with the USA funding Al Qaeda in Libya to kill Gaddafi. Libya with Gaddafi was one of the highest living standard countries in Africa, where people didn't pay household bills. While old British people in Britain were dying of the cold, after Tories stole and sold off public owned energy to foreign companies. Yet nobody remembers reality, and think anti EU Tories care about British people, when all they want to do is make sure the British economy stays closely linked to New York banks, to keep us with an economy encouraging people to live in greed, debt and a permanent state of war.
Muslim MEN running Hamas are violent and put the lives of women and children in danger. They take away a woman’s rights, agency and freedom and force her and the child to become martyrs. All of this is perfectly fine under their religious laws. They have a dirty culture of raping woman and enslaving hostages or enemies. It's collective punishment of all woman to to wear hijab haram and children are only the property of muslim men! The mother has no influence on the child's mindset, For 1,300 years, that includes 6 muslim empires that controlled Jerusalem, and all of them implemented an apartheid regime which reduced Jews to Dhimmis status, second class people with limited rights and extra taxes. We know what Muslim men do with power. The good does not outweigh the bad.
Not a defender but I’m happy to point out the hypocrisy of you guys if she had gone to Israel/Ukraine this is not a story it just highlights how unbalanced the justice system is, reminder she was a 15 year old teenager but I guess you guys in the comments have always been perfect never been in any trouble.
Been in trouble, yes. Joined Islamic State, recognised as a terrosrist organisation around the world that even the most naive teenager would have been aware of, not so much@@lilkillars
So.. You propose not only should the State have the (ILLEGAL) power to remove Citizenship, leave someone stateless - you also approve of starving such prisoners to death? Just suppose YOU did something your Government didn't like.. Like being a Human rights activist? Or whistle-blowing journalist How'd you like it if they did that to YOU?
Those benefits that my country robbed India and other countries for??.. or did the UK have so much it went round the world distributing it in it's ships.. FFS why the fuck I am I even bothering to comment on this ... Beat me
@@sospIs The fact it has even been considered and gone on for years now, with certain sections of society demanding she be bought back, is a soft touch in itself. No self respecting country would even consider it, UK did.
The woman from Reprieve got the facts completely wrong, you'd think she'd know the facts inside out. Begum wasn't trafficked, she admitted she travelled on her own will. The woman from Reprieve made a fool of herself in this interview. Completely incompetent.
why is she getting legal aid when not a British citizen and not even in the UK. If her Lawyers want to do it Pro Bono then that is up to them but they should be absorbing all expenses not UK tax payers. Most UK tax payers won't be entitled to any legal aid until such time they have spent all their savings etc.
And yes I do believe the Death Penalty should be reintroduced for Terrorism, Murder of Children, and Murder of First Responders when fulfilling their duties.
Oh, why not? You've allowed negative inferences to be made if someone asserts their right to remain silent, and now you're taking citizenship away under really shady circumstances from a girl who was helped into the Islamic State by a Canadian intelligence asset. Why not just advocate for stripping anyone who doesn't adhere to the state religion of their UK citizenship? Maybe start with some Jim Crow style laws? That stuff would be popular.
@@briancrawford8751 In there quran. Kill all infidels. Wel,i am an proud infidel,and with me 6 billion other decent humans. Same barbaric book have +150 racist discriminating hate verses.
Lol at her crawling back. What's the matter she didn't like the people she was fighting for and so crawled back to the people she's fighting against? What a hypocrite 🤦🏽♂️
Let's see what British who are killing civilians in Palestine and openly telling their genocidal wishes for Gazans will face. Let's see how fair the UK is.
What about the terrorist thugs that left the UK to fight in the IDF ?????? How come they allowed them to come back after committing genocides ???,🤔🤔🤔 hypocrite!!
In Bangladesh there was not as much a single protest or much media activity when they revoked her citizenship. Yet in the UK there has been almost a decade of a media circus around this girl. Maybe it is harsh, but life is harsh, and if you chose to go fight or support a terrorist organisation that's what happens. What kind of emboldening message does it send to domestic terror threats and international hostile actors if we allow her to come back to the UK... We cannot continue to let the UK be seen as that naïve old grandparent to be taken advantage of. She is alive and safe and will continue to be and thats more than the tens of thousands of victims of ISIS can say. How about the same energy used to defend her is used to try help the ever growing homelessness problem here in the UK.
Bangladesh is like already denounced her. We have enough of our own problems and we've also faced an IS--IS attack and multiple terror cells in our country before . The Govt has no intention to bring someone like her back. And actually most Bangladeshis don't even know who Shamima Begum is . She will face social backlash here if people find out she was in IS--is .
Yep. There is footage of her and her friends boarding their flight ✈️. They look like they are freely boarding like any other person who chose to take a trip!
She wasn't trafficked, she made her own choice and now has to learn to live with it. She's unbothered by the death she witnessed there, and her husband will be out of prison in the next year or so. If they're allowed to return to the UK, it will be a highly dangerous situation. Neither one of them are sorry for what they did and stand by it. Her father is remarried and lives in Bangladesh now, she can go stay with him. I find it funny now she's doing her interviews in western clothing instead of her Muslim garb. Did she really believe that the courts would buy that? Pretty sure she doesnt prance around her camp wearing these clothes. She would be punished for it by the other women.
the people who joined that organization we seduced by promisses of owning slaves and slaughtering "their enemies" , meanwhile european citizens are being guiltriped constantly for things in the past neither themselves or their ancerstors did. So if we can't forgive inocent people for the past non crimes of other inocent people, I guess we should'nt forgive that lady.
Her Bangladeshi citizenship was also quashed though so she can't live there either. In my opinion she got herself into this situation I the first place and should find a way to get herself out!
@@ashleyfairway.540 Well, parents don't have full control over their child, even how well they were raised they were, teens are always wild and hard to control even with hormones running in them, sneak out with friends to smoke and drink, go to parties and so on, we don't know what they do only say they are going such or say one thing but mean another, her parents did not know much and she probably pulled her wool over their eyes, they may be also responsible in such or not, but she made that choice, as well as whoever went with her, but yeah
@@AK-ru3sg I disagree, I had views when I was still at school that I regard as being even fundamentally wrong now and I also think there are more than a fair few silly adults about. In my view a fifteen year old cannot be expected to properly know their own mind, I definitely did not! Regards, Brent Collins.
I'd probably take her side if she seemed genuinely remorseful. But her apologies always sound pretty weak. As though her main regret is that ISIS didn't work out for her personally.
She never regret about her time with ISIS. It's up to her own decision as well to go to that hell. Trafficking is an excuse. Anyway there should be a consequence of being terrorist.
The Netherlands, Germany and France has done the same, they all stripped the Nationality of the persons who went to fight for Isis. They became Stateless.
Geez didnt we set a WONDERFUL precedent? Tinpot make-the-rules-up-as-you-go-along UK, racing to the bottom in Human Rights and dragging the 'civilised' world down with them
What about the Duel Zionist....are they allowed to fight against babies and women...and wear dead women's lingerie and belongings to give to their Zionist spouse....is that all fine yeah?
Yes, and it is a problem elsewhere if there is no objectivity in decisions, other considerations, such as religion, nationality, family etc. We know that from some cultures there is tremendous pressure to get the right decisions, to the detriment of the community and cohesion.@@kopynd1
It is against common sense to have these people in the country. Denmark does not take the citizenship, which only has a Danish citizenship, but it will come. Most of these people only have Danish citizenship because of the privileges this gives, but their allegiance lies in the Middle East and therefore most have dual citizenship@@samjones3106
Exactly because she once was a British citizen. A government could also strip a person of citizenship without cause to rid itself of those it deemed politically inconvenient. Therefore, any such decision needs to be reviewed to prevent tyranny.
why can't the BBC not just report "THE FACT" without always calling in an activist to preach us about moral highgrounds and how we should be more "open minded" and "diverse" ??
She was old enough to know better than to join a terrorist group when she did it anyway. Justice has been served and I really can't show her any empathy. How many people were attacked, suffered, or were brutally killed because of her actions. Perhaps she was not involved in the fighting, but she likely joined that terror organization to support it. When an organization get's support, it encourages them to do more of what they have been doing.
She wasn't old enough to know better. she was still a child in many ways . However, the reality is she made an unfortunate decision in her youth will effect the rest of her life. Let's hope it deters others.
@@sinceresong9907she was 15. She knew exactly what she was doing. The age of criminal responsibility is 12, she should be arrested and given a life sentence
The UK definitely isn't the only country to do this. Australia introduced a rule in 2015 which automatically stripped anyone of their Australian citizenship if they had either fought for or joined a recognised terrorist group. This has happened on more than one occasion but the Australian High Court overturned the rule in 2022. Australia has also prevented citizens from travelling overseas because they are suspected of planning to join a terrorist group. I think at 15, you can make stupid decisions, but Shamima Begum doesn't seem particularly contrite.
The IDF, i presume is not a RECOGNISED Terrorist Group? Dont you realise what a massive RECRUITING FLAG the slaughter in Iraq was for Islamists? And now, the Gaza Genocide? If wonderful UK wasnt so drenched in foreign blood, free people, following their conscience (however twisted or misinformed) would be LESS likely to fight AGAINST us Personally i'd give my LIFE to have Tony Blair put away and, if necessary, given the chop (as facilitated by a guilty verdict at the Hague)
Being 15 does not absolve you of any responsibility... Considering she has been happily skipping along with radical religious terrorist groups, not batting an eye people being beheaded, I'd say being cautious about embracing them as a citizen makes sense. @@OBEYTHEPYRAMID
Spot on in mentioning that BBC would be disappointed, the lawyer in Ms Begum's case is talking as if her client was innocent and government was to blame. It would be precedent for other such cases in future and government should stick the decision of deprivation.
@@CarrieS0703 In July 2020, the Court of Appeal ruled that Begum should be permitted to return to the UK in order to fairly contest the Home Secretary’s decision by instructing lawyers properly.[8] This ruling was appealed to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom which, on 26 February 2021, ruled unanimously against her, reversing the decision of the Court of Appeal and preventing her return.
@@hicmad Yea, it was an appeal against Sajid David’s decision (the then Home Secretary). This is an unusual case as you can’t normally appeal the Supreme Courts decision. It’s also very expensive, so I don’t know who is funding this. Thanks for your thoughts on this, interesting.
@@21boxhead I am the same age as her. At that age, I was still afraid to sleep away from home. This girl illegally trafficked herself over an international border, all in order to live under a genocidal Islamic state.
All most people know about is propaganda in the media to make sure Britain stays a USA lapdog. Most people don't know that Islamic extremism hardly existed before the USA were arming and training the religious extremists in Afghanistan in the 1980s against Russia. While the USA were chanting against Commies, they were already creating their next enemy to keep the weapons manufacturers going. Then when Russia left Afghanistan, the USA didn't care what the extremists were doing there all through the 90s, until 9/11 in 2001. The extremists were blowing up ancient Buddhists statues, banning females from education, while making females walk around in tents and killing people for religious reasons. Why do people make up conspiracy theories about 9/11 that can't be proved, while ignoring actual, easily proved historical facts, about how Afghanistan wouldn't be an extremist hotspot if it wasn't for the USA? Also when British people are killed by extremists who trained in Libya after Gaddafi was killed, such as in Tunisia and the Manchester concert, no media reminds people of when the secret service whistle blower David Shayler told how Britain was going along with the USA funding Al Qaeda in Libya to kill Gaddafi. People don't even care our own government fund extremists who then harm us, to overthrow leaders who don't want to trade oil in USA Dollars. Our media were making up loads of propaganda against Assad in Syria, the ex NHS eye Doctor and his modern British born wife. Syria under Assad was one of the few middle east countries with many religions that live together in peace. There were ancient Christian communities who still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus, but after USA involvement, half the country has been taken over by the Islamic State. Also if we're such a free country, why has Russia Today News been banned from our screens? Is it because they pointed out the hypocrisy of Britain and the USA selling arms to nations like Saudi Arabia, where many people don't have full human rights, while our media and government try to get us going about less extremist nations?
She wasn’t even apologetic in her past interviews. When asked what she thought it mean to be British, she basically listed benefits of living in Britain to her: “Living, working, education.” How about democracy, freedom of speech and rights for women? You can see it in her eyes. No empathy behind them at all.
@@susivarga7303 so she's allowed to continue to appeal until she's permitted to come back to the UK no matter how many appeals it takes her not to mention the wasting of tax payers money? She's not in prison where she can be rehabilitated and let back into society. Or is she?
She won’t accept no for an answer. She’ll continue wasting taxpayer money with her legal fees until she’s finally exhausted all possible ways to appeal. Like every single illegal migrant that crosses the channel she wants to mooch off the taxpayers for years with a comfy life provided by the government at the taxpayers expense. The only difference is that she had all that. She was a British citizen who grew up with all the rights, protections and benefits that come with it. And then she betrayed her country, rejected it and all that it stood for to go and join a regime of brutal terro**sts. She had a good time with them and was perfectly happy to breed new little terr**ists for them. Until it all came crashing down as the terro**st caliphate wasn’t as strong as they thought they were and got crushed. Then she wound up in a prison camp for terr**ists and it sucked. Until a journalist found her and gave her a voice. Then she seized the opportunity to improve her life by asking to rejoin the very country she betrayed and rejected. She didn’t regret joining the terr**ists, it’s just that life in Britain was better than a prison camp. That’s it. Like the illegal migrants she wanted to abuse the system and weaponise our own kindness against us. Thank goodness that the British government was just about smart enough to see through her deception and strip her of that which she had already thrown away.
As a muslim, i agree with all the british ppl who don‘t want her to get her citizenship back because she stated in prior interviews that she went there by herself, free will and it didn’t faze her at all to see someones head in the bin. she has no right to come back to the UK and she shouldn’t.
IS THAT RIGHT; under the now established British legal precedence ANY country that arrests a Briton on suspicion or allegations of been a member or associating with members of a proscribed group in their jurisdiction are NOT necessarily guaranteed the benefits of British citizenship, even under British legal precedence's , ergo no need for extradition or to respect extradition treaties or agreements... I mean, you open the window a crack bit to allow some evil, someone is bound to smash-in the door to expose ALL of it....
The Daily Telegraph reported that Begum had been an "enforcer" in IS's "morality police", and had tried to recruit other young women to join the jihadist group.[23] The report said that she was allowed to carry a Kalashnikov rifle and earned a reputation as a strict enforcer of IS's laws
I heard that too but I believe it was most likely Sharmeena Begum (Uddin) who encouraged her three friends Shamima Begum (Ali), Amira Abase and Kadiza Sultana to join her in Syria. Either way I don't want any of the men and women back. The only ones I have sympathy for are the ones who were taken as children by their parents.
I agree although there are far too many scumbags that are able to take advantage of loopholes with the help of lefty lawyers getting paid by legal aid.
If she was allowed back she will come back and claim disability benefits claiming (shes under threat) for the rest of her life and nobody will give her a job, she'll be given council housing (ahead of people on the waiting list) and possibly a new identity costing around £1'000'000 and all us tax payers will have to fund it. I dont wana pay for her and neither should you. Stop being naive. She knows what she was doing then and she knows what shes doing now trying to tug on peoples heart strings.
She would get all of that, and within a year, be strapping a bomb on herself a go murder a lg group of people. These people are brainwashed, and I don't believe for a moment she has suddenly come to her senses.
@@TVIDS123 she would only be in a prison for a short time. 'Her mental health' would suffer and she would live off the taxpayers for the rest of her life. Who would ever employ her? She would need security protection all her life as well. Living here she would cost the UK tens of millions of Pounds. It has cost £5 million at least already.
@@susanwestern6434Exactly. Well said. She's cost millions in legal fees alone. The Left Wing media have turned her into some kind of 'celebrity' when in reality she is a traitor of the highest order
Her comments afterwards, were pro radical Islamist, and had no regret, so the origlnal decision was just and as the Appeal Court said ... there was no reason to remove it. She was NOT trafficked.
She was 15 not 5. She joined ISIS willingly, now she has to pay the price for her own actions. Or maybe, she can gladly go live in Bangladesh since she was a dual citizen!
There is not much of a UK left for her to return to. A struggling economy, an alienated, dismissed and subjugated population. Our country is infiltrated, gentrified and poorly governed. Our UK is now an overridden, politically confused, ridiculously woke and crime infested country at the mercy of foreign interests, foreign cultural and religious dysfunction, protests and violence, international liabilities and crippled by political correctness. There is no infastructure to halt or pevent illegal entry into this country by boat, however, the political and legal system is willing to fund, promote and broadcast this case at great cost using immense resource.
"There is no infastructure (sic) to halt or pevent (sic) illegal entry into this country by boat ..." There is a Navy, Police Force, Border Force and a so-called asylum service. All are hopelessly underfunded and demotivated.
what a stupid comment think comparatively. She is in a camp with no guarantee of food, electricity and running water and where all 3 of her children died from illness. And she is in a war torn country where the dictator commits war crimes on his own civilians and terrorists run rampant. I know which country I'd rather be in.
@@Charlielx I didn't get the idea that was what Brexit was for, it was never a magic wand that would bring about paradise, only a 'get out of jail' card! We've not been kneecapped where I live, things are slightly better although the politicians are now (almost all) raving mad. No one could foresee the rise in prices due to the Ukraine/Russia war. 😏
She gave up her citizenship in the firet place, there should never have been any appeal accepted. She is a conniving and lies lies lies aith impunity all the time.
I work hard, pay my taxes and obey the law. This decision is a start in the long journey to convince me that in the UK criminal behaviour is actually punished and actions have consequences.
good lad you need to keep paying your taxes who else will cough up the bill for these lawyer crooks, there not lawyers money making racket from the tax payer its called theft
IS THAT RIGHT; under the now established British legal precedence ANY country that arrests a Briton on suspicion or allegations of been a member or associating with members of a proscribed group in their jurisdiction are NOT necessarily guaranteed the benefits of British citizenship, even under British legal precedence's , ergo no need for extradition or to respect extradition treaties or agreements... I mean, you open the window a crack bit to allow some evil, someone is bound to smash-in the door to expose ALL of it....
And she is making a choice to attempt this appeal for reinstating her citizenship. Worth a try, nothing to lose and everything to gain. I don’t think she will lose any sleep as she has zero remorse.
Apparently she wasn't shocked by seeing people's heads in bins over there. Sorry, but we don't need someone like that back here.
The trauma of war, or the insensitivity some youth experience when they've been cut off from reality by video games and violent media?
@@edelgyn2699did you think you wrote a question there?
Horrific
@@-Expert-Everything-you're obviously unfamiliar with rhetorical statements.
Vincent Awbery you must be an expert in PTSD 👏
Gotta love how murder-approving people change into being a victim when it might benefit them.
Like venables
Better dentists in the UK.
Has there been terrorist attacks in the UK since her citizenship was removed ? If it puts fear in potential terrorists, then good. At 15 you are old enough to understand that murder is bad, she knew ISIS's aims and they certainly weren't to spread peace in the literal sense. After all she's been taught and influenced by her surroundings who also think the same
@@consciousdn9758 Counter what ?
@@consciousdn9758
Wel thats simple,deport islam.
This is the definition of "f*ck around and find out". Shamima is accountable for her own decisions.
She most likely wants to come back to set up a terrorist attack against innocent British citizens.
Accountable just like other 15 year olds in the UK who stab and murder?
@@RobsonHoldingyes. it's people like you who are responsible everyone gets away with heinous shit on this continent. your far-left "reintegration" theories turned europe from basically heaven on earth into an absolute shithole. if a 15 year old stabs someone to death, he shouldn't see a bird under the clear blue sky any day before their 60th birthday. the US has many problems and does a lot of stuff worse than we do in europe. but at least people don't get away with heinous shit there on a 99 out of 100% basis.
@@RobsonHoldingYes. I would think at 15, people would know stabbing and killing people is wrong
@@RobsonHolding Don't do whataboutism. It's a coward move.
Shes not stateless! She chose her state and it rhymes with crisis!
Haha😂😅
Pmsl
well said!!!
You mean, "Crimea"?
She was 15.
She stated that she did not regret travelling to ISIS controlled Syria and said that she "had a good time". There are no credible suspicions she was a victim of trafficking at all, because she went on her own accord and thoroughly enjoyed her trip even after it had all happened.
@@tjae1580it won’t because it’s not genocide, it’s not an army of savages turning women into sex slaves. Why don’t you turn on that rotten piece of meat you call a brain before you lower the iq of the whole planet with your mindless drivel. 🖕
All started on Oct 7 stop picking and choosing to suit your agenda @@tjae1580
But, realistically she was a minor and there's no way you can convince a minor living in a relatively stable environment particularly in the west to up and leave for a unstable war zone without some level of coercing and grooming. You don't convince them to do it over one simple text, you'd build a rapport with them feel heard and seen before you start manipualting them. Many grown adults have been manipulated by cults to make terrible choices, so why is it any different?
@@TomiZ29Syria is her home, she should stay forever.
It was her choice.
Her lawyers are giving her false hope and lining their pockets.
@@TomiZ29sorry but enticing someone is not the same as coercing someone. You can entice someone with promises of adventure and purpose but that isn't coercion. She chose to go and must live with the consequences.
She’s responsible for her own decisions.
she was 15
@@interstellarlunar4597 15 or not, she still joined ISIS at her own will therefore the appeal being rejected is justified
@@columnedfox5508yeah, when she was 15. We understand as a society that a 15 year old's brain is not developed enough to be fully responsible for their decision, so what is the difference here?
She's a failure of PREVENT. She should be here in prison for life. She's our problem.
@@interstellarlunar4597do you think shes become a union jack waving patriot?
At 15 the parents should be responsible. Deport them.
How many times will she be allowed to appeal before they block her permanently? It's a joke. She is not welcome here
I think this decession was so jock.A man has a right.which she are doing. If she done any offence,she is punished with judicary.
None off them are welcome hear they are destroying the UK
It’s a legal thing. You can keep appealing all the way to the European court of human rights I believe. Before that she’ll go to Supreme Court. She probably has a couple of appeals left until she runs out of appeal options. Then they’ll try ‘new evidence’ and appeal with that. Legal process is pretty relentless
Apparently she has Bangladeshi citizenship, but they don't want her either, if she returns they will probably use the death penalty, the biggest mistake UK Government could make is to let here back on UK soil, the kick off would not be pretty !
Got you. Thanks for the info@@Aaron19987
British government didn't strip her of her citizenship, she relinquished it. She freely went to join the Islamic state meaning she gave up her previous citizenship.
The act of burning your passport by itself doesn't represent formal relinquishment your citizenship, but the calculated decision to travel to Syria, join ISIS to live "pure islamic life" is good enough to deprive her of the UK citizenship.
Basically, if she finds a way to return, she would be detained and deported or maybe even worse.
She was only 15 years old that day
No, she was deprived of it by the Home Secretary at the time
@@PrincessDelaCruz-z6z15 year olds arent babies they know what their doing 😂
@@serafinahart4012 umm... 16 u need 2 fcuk no?
Had ISIS been successful in their missions in Syria, she would still be actively fighting for their cause and remain in Syria today. Think about it. She's just begging for sympathy now to return to Britain when things haven't worked out for her. Serves her right.
I am a Muslim and I agree.
She’s a terrorist, she’s lucky we don’t blow her up.
She wants to return, write books, bec a millionaire and do media tours and make millions of £’s.
I just saw 🇺🇸 -born girl who went to Syria and now wants to return. She is willing to stay in prison in the 🇺🇸. Nope. We don’t need to house and feed her! She looks well-fed and comfortable where she is!
We have law-abiding ppl here who have to go to food pantries to get food and have jobs but live in their cars. She doesn’t need to live in the 5-star prison accommodations with free room and board and free healthcare etc. The Syrians are taking great care of her! She is home sweet home! 🏡
@@kittykatz4001
I am a Muslim. She is a disgrace and leave her in that Islamic State.
@@kittykatz4001fr, staying in a shithole refugee camp surrounded by those they wronged while thinking of the US and UK is torture a plenty for these gits
Trafficked ?. She didn't look as if she was being trafficked when she freely put herself on a plane and left British shores.
And she, herself, burned her UK passport in a burning ceremony.
Well, now she regrets her decision so clearly she was trafficked 🙄
She was smuggled into Syria by a smuggler then held in a building with about 100 other women and weren’t allowed to leave until they were married.
It definitely fits the definition of trafficking.
She was lied to about what it was like there, how she would be treated she was groomed into being a terrorist.
I do think she could be a danger but I think she should be imprisoned in the uk instead of in prison camps in Syria
@@JunitunesThere is footage of her and some other girls boarding freely boarding a plane ✈️ . No sign of coercion.
Everyone is trafficked in the u.k I get stuck on the m25 on the way back home from work everyday.
Great news. Stop funding her appeals.
Who is funding her appeal
@@sineflakeprobably the UK government.
@@almac9203 or her Islamic friends who are living over here....
No mercy for terrorists
wish we have such judges in india
All the interviews I have seen with this woman tell me she is not a victim.The UK was the victim and she should pay the penalty
It’s called accountability. She would be imprisoning British people in Syria now if ISIS had been successful in its objectives. 😮🇬🇧
Feel the same way about the british citizens fighting for the idf? Or are you a hypocrite
@@chaosmonkey9987 ah ya good old whataboutism. The refuge of a lost argument and rubbish opinion
@@chaosmonkey9987 dont cram your agenda into everything, just because im a footie fan doesnt mean i want man city banned from the country
@chaosmonkey9987. Are you saying British IDF volunteers are imprisoning British Palestinians in Gaza? My understanding is that people who have dual citizenship left Gaza to avoid the fighting. Do you know otherwise?
@slimjimnyc270 british idf soldiers are killing children and women at an unprecedented rate, you need to pop your bubble
Shamima Begum had Bangladesh citizenship until it was removed on her 21st birthday by the Bangladesh government. This is not an issue for the British government to consider, they did not strip her of this nor can they reinstate this. Her claims of being stateless are not the responsibility of the British government.
Bangladesh Won't take that terrorist sympathizer.
Very well said I could not agree any more
She never had it
If you check the time line she has had bangledesh citizenship, at time her British citizenship was revoked her Bangladesh citizenship had been cancelled about 2 to 3 years prior. Again that's not the British governments issue. Best she tries to regain her Bangladesh citizenship.
@@TheFlash-cat she won't. She knows she will be dead if she comes here. Death penalty for terrorism.
Wow......a Muslim in the United Kingdom not getting their own way.....that's a first for a very long time
Unlike Khan who has consistently been ruining London and still continues to
Well joining isis doesn't exactly make you a normal muslim does it?
Oh shut up with that bollix!
Hes not wrong @@jaxcoss5790
I noticed how many people repeat conspiracy theories they read online, which are dismissed as they don't have any proof. Yet nobody talks about easily proved historical facts, that are different than what the media tell them to think. Such as as how Afghanistan wasn't extremist until the USA were arming and training the extremists there in the 80s against Russia. Then the USA didn't care what the extremists were doing in Afghanistan all through the 90s, such as females banned from education and blowing up ancient Buddhist statues, until 9/11 in 2001. Now after many British people were killed going to war with the USA against the Taliban after 9/11, the USA has given up and now left the Taliban to run Afghanistan. While our media and government couldn't care what goes on there. Everywhere Britain and the USA has become involved in such as Iraq, then becomes an extremist training ground to harm our own people. The only news channel which talked about those things was Russia Today, which has been banned from our TV and internet, and we think we're a free country.
Also the when British people are harmed by extremists who trained in Libya after Gaddafi was killed, such as tourists being shot in Tunisia and blown up in the Manchester concert, the media don't remind us of when the secret service whistle blower David Shayler told how Britain was going along with the USA funding Al Qaeda in Libya to kill Gaddafi. Libya with Gaddafi was one of the highest living standard countries in Africa, where people didn't pay household bills. While old British people in Britain were dying of the cold, after Tories stole and sold off public owned energy to foreign companies. Yet nobody remembers reality, and think anti EU Tories care about British people, when all they want to do is make sure the British economy stays closely linked to New York banks, to keep us with an economy encouraging people to live in greed, debt and a permanent state of war.
" She is the author of her own misfortune"
Brainwash and regurgitation does nothing for your intelligence level?
Excellent news. Begum's defender on this video clearly has no respect for UK law.
Muslim MEN running Hamas are violent and put the lives of women and children in danger. They take away a woman’s rights, agency and freedom and force her and the child to become martyrs. All of this is perfectly fine under their religious laws. They have a dirty culture of raping woman and enslaving hostages or enemies.
It's collective punishment of all woman to to wear hijab haram and children are only the property of muslim men! The mother has no influence on the child's mindset,
For 1,300 years, that includes 6 muslim empires that controlled Jerusalem, and all of them implemented an apartheid regime which reduced Jews to Dhimmis status, second class people with limited rights and extra taxes.
We know what Muslim men do with power. The good does not outweigh the bad.
Not a defender but I’m happy to point out the hypocrisy of you guys if she had gone to Israel/Ukraine this is not a story it just highlights how unbalanced the justice system is, reminder she was a 15 year old teenager but I guess you guys in the comments have always been perfect never been in any trouble.
Been in trouble, yes. Joined Islamic State, recognised as a terrosrist organisation around the world that even the most naive teenager would have been aware of, not so much@@lilkillars
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
@@lilkillars Are you Madarsa educated? There is a difference between going to a war zone and joining a terror cult!
UK tax payers have no obligation to feed Begum in a jail cell. Leave the feeding to some other organization and territory.
Unfortunately she’s still leeching money from the taxpayers because we’re being forced to pay for her legal fees.
Unfortunately West is feeding her where ever she is, Gravy train needs to stop.
Amnesty International
So.. You propose not only should the State have the (ILLEGAL) power to remove Citizenship, leave someone stateless - you also approve of starving such prisoners to death?
Just suppose YOU did something your Government didn't like.. Like being a Human rights activist? Or whistle-blowing journalist
How'd you like it if they did that to YOU?
How about having a strong judicial system where shed rather stay out on her own
We need more of this in Britain, we need to stop being soft and put our foot down to this shit!
The type of gaming you do includes Pac-Man and Donkey Kong.
@@ArranVid lmfao
@@ArranVid nothing wrong with pacman!
@@letmelivegaming I know 🙂I like both Pac-Man and Donkey Kong!
@user-bk9fk2tq2z never really been a Nintendo fan for games, more of a Sega fan... sonic the hedgehog!
EVEN BANGLADESH DOESNT WANT HER!!! LMAO!
Bangladesh *in particular* don't want her. Bangladesh has problems enough, she's a very problematic person 🤷
I saw an interview with Bangladesh' foreign minister said if she was convicted of terrorist offences in Bangladesh, she'd be hanged.
Poor girl, she misses her British benefits...
Those benefits that my country robbed India and other countries for??.. or did the UK have so much it went round the world distributing it in it's ships.. FFS why the fuck I am I even bothering to comment on this ... Beat me
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
Hahahha @@Woody-ov6xk
@@Woody-ov6xk punkah wallah 😂
Poor bbc , they must be devastated.
She seriously expected the country she betrayed to give her a passport and hence all the protection that brings?
well yeah, have you not seen how much of a soft touch UK are
@@frdsg8350 Are you joking? Yes, Rishi has allowed organised crime associates into our country, but terrorists are over the line.
@@sospIs The fact it has even been considered and gone on for years now, with certain sections of society demanding she be bought back, is a soft touch in itself. No self respecting country would even consider it, UK did.
Passport is not given. It's her birthright.
She already had a UK passport. Should we remove a UK passport from all UK criminals? She should face Uk justice system.
The woman from Reprieve got the facts completely wrong, you'd think she'd know the facts inside out. Begum wasn't trafficked, she admitted she travelled on her own will. The woman from Reprieve made a fool of herself in this interview. Completely incompetent.
She didn't get her facts wrong, she is knowingly lying.
NGO, TIME BABY = NICE HOUSE IN THE COUNTRY!
Not only that - I did't see any air time on this broadcast given to the argument against her coming back to the UK.
At what point does she run out of appeals and the decision stands? Why should there be endless appeals?
why is she getting legal aid when not a British citizen and not even in the UK. If her Lawyers want to do it Pro Bono then that is up to them but they should be absorbing all expenses not UK tax payers. Most UK tax payers won't be entitled to any legal aid until such time they have spent all their savings etc.
And yes I do believe the Death Penalty should be reintroduced for Terrorism, Murder of Children, and Murder of First Responders when fulfilling their duties.
Oh, why not? You've allowed negative inferences to be made if someone asserts their right to remain silent, and now you're taking citizenship away under really shady circumstances from a girl who was helped into the Islamic State by a Canadian intelligence asset. Why not just advocate for stripping anyone who doesn't adhere to the state religion of their UK citizenship? Maybe start with some Jim Crow style laws? That stuff would be popular.
@@briancrawford8751
In there quran.
Kill all infidels.
Wel,i am an proud infidel,and with me 6 billion other decent humans.
Same barbaric book have +150 racist discriminating hate verses.
@@briancrawford8751 they should that sounds better than sharia
murder of first responders seems oddly specific.
Is that also applicable for Zionists who murdered 15 thousand children in Gaza 🤔 or that would be antisemitic?
She looks clean, well fed and healthy. She looks like she's on holiday!
...makes you think. Who sent her those clothes?
With black sunglasses and all. She's fine. No need to grant her entrance back to the UK.
not to mention access to resources to wear makeup, have hair dyed brown
Dia adalah selebrity disekitar camp itu 😂
Brilliant, traitors should never be allowed a voice
Lol at her crawling back. What's the matter she didn't like the people she was fighting for and so crawled back to the people she's fighting against? What a hypocrite 🤦🏽♂️
Absolutely 👍
Everybody must be afforded due process, or we are no better than Chins.
Let's see what British who are killing civilians in Palestine and openly telling their genocidal wishes for Gazans will face. Let's see how fair the UK is.
What about the terrorist thugs that left the UK to fight in the IDF ?????? How come they allowed them to come back after committing genocides ???,🤔🤔🤔 hypocrite!!
In Bangladesh there was not as much a single protest or much media activity when they revoked her citizenship. Yet in the UK there has been almost a decade of a media circus around this girl. Maybe it is harsh, but life is harsh, and if you chose to go fight or support a terrorist organisation that's what happens. What kind of emboldening message does it send to domestic terror threats and international hostile actors if we allow her to come back to the UK... We cannot continue to let the UK be seen as that naïve old grandparent to be taken advantage of. She is alive and safe and will continue to be and thats more than the tens of thousands of victims of ISIS can say. How about the same energy used to defend her is used to try help the ever growing homelessness problem here in the UK.
Bangladesh is like already denounced her.
We have enough of our own problems and we've also faced an IS--IS attack and multiple terror cells in our country before .
The Govt has no intention to bring someone like her back.
And actually most Bangladeshis don't even know who Shamima Begum is . She will face social backlash here if people find out she was in IS--is .
@@rahatzaman8120 THANK YOU
She wasn't trafficked she went there knowingly with her two friends first in Turkey then they were brought across the border to Syria
Yep. There is footage of her and her friends boarding their flight ✈️. They look like they are freely boarding like any other person who chose to take a trip!
Using a Nazi reference towards Britain is a pretty low blow… Defund that woman,
I don't like what she said defund her.... stfu grow up People are allowed an opinion different to your
Begum is a Nazi herself. She is a genocidal mass murderer
Maybe don't do things the nazis did then?
Fuck Islam 10000%
Yes, it's the 'go-to' comparison against a country with the lowest number of far-right votes in Europe by a huge margin.
She wasn't trafficked, she made her own choice and now has to learn to live with it. She's unbothered by the death she witnessed there, and her husband will be out of prison in the next year or so. If they're allowed to return to the UK, it will be a highly dangerous situation. Neither one of them are sorry for what they did and stand by it. Her father is remarried and lives in Bangladesh now, she can go stay with him. I find it funny now she's doing her interviews in western clothing instead of her Muslim garb. Did she really believe that the courts would buy that? Pretty sure she doesnt prance around her camp wearing these clothes. She would be punished for it by the other women.
I will not be surprised if later shes already become politician and human right leader, thats how it is.
the people who joined that organization we seduced by promisses of owning slaves and slaughtering "their enemies" , meanwhile european citizens are being guiltriped constantly for things in the past neither themselves or their ancerstors did. So if we can't forgive inocent people for the past non crimes of other inocent people, I guess we should'nt forgive that lady.
Her Bangladeshi citizenship was also quashed though so she can't live there either. In my opinion she got herself into this situation I the first place and should find a way to get herself out!
And raped by men who would thinks she’s a
w-ore
There is footage of her freely and willingly boarding the flight to leave.
She wasnt trafficked she met her husband after she arrive
This woman gets too much attention and costs too much money
At the time she was still legally a child. Blame the parents.
Let her parents pay for all her court appeals.
@@ashleyfairway.540 Well, parents don't have full control over their child, even how well they were raised they were, teens are always wild and hard to control even with hormones running in them, sneak out with friends to smoke and drink, go to parties and so on, we don't know what they do only say they are going such or say one thing but mean another, her parents did not know much and she probably pulled her wool over their eyes, they may be also responsible in such or not, but she made that choice, as well as whoever went with her, but yeah
💯💯💯 perfect!!!
She won’t give up easily, we have to just keep rejecting these applications.
Her lawyers won't give up, they're making too much money from this.
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
@CuteCuteCute-02 I hope the same applies for the British citizens that have travelled to Israel to join the IDF in their genocide in Gaza
she will just come back on a boat
@@tjae1580 But they're not terrorists.
Why is she gettin so much attention? Just put a big red "No" on her appeal paper and move on
It's part of the plan to keep the public divided probably
send the lawyer bill to their parents, the appeal will stop immediately.
She made her decision, and even if she sincerely regrets it now, she has to live with the consequences.
Agree. You know what you're doing at 15.
@@AK-ru3sg I disagree, I had views when I was still at school that I regard as being even fundamentally wrong now and I also think there are more than a fair few silly adults about. In my view a fifteen year old cannot be expected to properly know their own mind, I definitely did not! Regards, Brent Collins.
In the UK the age of criminal responsibility is 10.
I'd probably take her side if she seemed genuinely remorseful. But her apologies always sound pretty weak. As though her main regret is that ISIS didn't work out for her personally.
@@andybrice2711 Disgusting comment. You'd rather she lie and fake remorse than tell the truth? What kind of people raised you??
Victim of trafficking? I never heard that a victim of trafficking is denouncing the country from which he came from.
She never regret about her time with ISIS. It's up to her own decision as well to go to that hell. Trafficking is an excuse. Anyway there should be a consequence of being terrorist.
The Netherlands, Germany and France has done the same, they all stripped the Nationality of the persons who went to fight for Isis. They became Stateless.
And let me guess: They still live in Germany, France and the Netherlands and live off their tax payers.
Geez didnt we set a WONDERFUL precedent? Tinpot make-the-rules-up-as-you-go-along UK, racing to the bottom in Human Rights and dragging the 'civilised' world down with them
I can remember that Germany let two women back. They also joined IS to marry those "soldiers" just like Begum.
What about the Duel Zionist....are they allowed to fight against babies and women...and wear dead women's lingerie and belongings to give to their Zionist spouse....is that all fine yeah?
And come back into the UK and say what's going on mate let's have a fackin cuppa tea....
She looks like she's perfectly adjusted there and comfortable with where she is.
YES England! More common sense please 🙏
UK.
There are four countries that make up the UK not just England.
Small history/geography lesson for you.
@@craigevans8912 The only country that matters in the UK is England. The other three are mere subject provinces
why@@jamesmullen3601
Go England. Your land for your people.
too late .. damage is already done.... within 30-40 yrs uk will be iislamic country. UK is TOOOOOO LATE.
In Denmark we also take citizenship to people who have chosen ISIS. It's pretty low to use the Nazi reference
well its obvious you can see where shes from just by looking at her, bloods thicker than water remember, they all stick together
Yes, and it is a problem elsewhere if there is no objectivity in decisions, other considerations, such as religion, nationality, family etc. We know that from some cultures there is tremendous pressure to get the right decisions, to the detriment of the community and cohesion.@@kopynd1
That's nice, you guys in Denmark can continue welcoming mass murderers who threaten the lives of your children and women, in the UK we don't want it.
Its against international law to take someones citizenship and make them stateless. Unless they have dual citizenship.
It is against common sense to have these people in the country. Denmark does not take the citizenship, which only has a Danish citizenship, but it will come. Most of these people only have Danish citizenship because of the privileges this gives, but their allegiance lies in the Middle East and therefore most have dual citizenship@@samjones3106
She said she wasn't fazed seeing a man's severed head. Very dangerous indeed. Common sense prevailed for a change
@@tjae1580You gonna keep spamming that comment everywhere 🙄
how inspiring she remarked
What I don't understand is why the British taxpayers still paying for her legal costs?? She isn't a British citizen!
Same goes for the Child Groomers. There's an Islamist Mafia at work
Need to rule a reimbursement
Exactly because she once was a British citizen. A government could also strip a person of citizenship without cause to rid itself of those it deemed politically inconvenient. Therefore, any such decision needs to be reviewed to prevent tyranny.
The British legal system is setting a precedent, for dealing with future terrorists, (who want a free pass!) 😮
Good point.
why can't the BBC not just report "THE FACT" without always calling in an activist to preach us about moral highgrounds and how we should be more "open minded" and "diverse" ??
I agree because it then makes it look unfair. Need to hear all of it to make an informed decision of what my opinion is.
That's the reason, one by one, we are stopping paying their license fee.
"why must I be reminded at the moral bankruptcy of the government constantly and not be allowed to be racist in peace!"
@Vladishit_Puler theres a reason the BBC are referred to as the Biased Broadcasting Corporation!
@zeak5073 wow... the "racist" card... you played that card so quickly and completely out of context...no surprise, that's how weak people argue
She was old enough to know better than to join a terrorist group when she did it anyway. Justice has been served and I really can't show her any empathy. How many people were attacked, suffered, or were brutally killed because of her actions. Perhaps she was not involved in the fighting, but she likely joined that terror organization to support it. When an organization get's support, it encourages them to do more of what they have been doing.
She's from the UK, not Syria. Why should the Syrians have to deal with her?
She wasn't old enough to know better. she was still a child in many ways . However, the reality is she made an unfortunate decision in her youth will effect the rest of her life. Let's hope it deters others.
@@sinceresong9907 I’m sorry but at 15 you know joining a horrific organisation like ISIS is wrong.
@@jamesmullen3601she should be given a life sentence and imprisoned in England.
@@sinceresong9907she was 15. She knew exactly what she was doing. The age of criminal responsibility is 12, she should be arrested and given a life sentence
Terrorists should not be pardon it will set wrong example
Your English is terrorism LEARN TO READ AND WRITE BEFORE COMMENTING WEIRDO
The UK definitely isn't the only country to do this. Australia introduced a rule in 2015 which automatically stripped anyone of their Australian citizenship if they had either fought for or joined a recognised terrorist group. This has happened on more than one occasion but the Australian High Court overturned the rule in 2022. Australia has also prevented citizens from travelling overseas because they are suspected of planning to join a terrorist group. I think at 15, you can make stupid decisions, but Shamima Begum doesn't seem particularly contrite.
The IDF, i presume is not a RECOGNISED Terrorist Group?
Dont you realise what a massive RECRUITING FLAG the slaughter in Iraq was for Islamists? And now, the Gaza Genocide?
If wonderful UK wasnt so drenched in foreign blood, free people, following their conscience (however twisted or misinformed) would be LESS likely to fight AGAINST us
Personally i'd give my LIFE to have Tony Blair put away and, if necessary, given the chop (as facilitated by a guilty verdict at the Hague)
Great. She left of her own accord and was not taken against her will. She was seen going through the airport with two other girls.
she was 15, ffs....of course she was brainwashed....
@@OBEYTHEPYRAMIDold enough to know better. I know of 7-8 year olds that wouldn’t make such a dumb decision.
She made a choice and has to live with it
@obeythepyramid and she will brainwash other youngsters here.
Being 15 does not absolve you of any responsibility... Considering she has been happily skipping along with radical religious terrorist groups, not batting an eye people being beheaded, I'd say being cautious about embracing them as a citizen makes sense.
@@OBEYTHEPYRAMID
@@OBEYTHEPYRAMIDNo, just like many of her kind, they dislike the indigenous population of the UK.
The BBC will be so disappointed
Thats what im talking about
bbc should go to a corner and cry over there.
No doubt they will refer to her as a militant bride and not a terrorist bride.
Glad to see that other people recognise the BBC for what it has become.
Spot on in mentioning that BBC would be disappointed, the lawyer in Ms Begum's case is talking as if her client was innocent and government was to blame. It would be precedent for other such cases in future and government should stick the decision of deprivation.
She rescinded her citizenship.
An old proverb says: Having mercy on a shard fangs wolf is the cruelty towards the sheep.
Huh?
**Having mercy on a shard fanged wolf is cruelty towards the sheep ^^
Sharp. 😂
@@iamric23 having sympathy for murderers and grape enthusiasts does a disservice to the innocents. Is that clearer? No Jihad!
That's a really stupid proverb.
Oh look, the poor fool is all grown up now..
Changed her fashion as well, no more head coverings I see
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
She’ll probably get her baps out next week saying, “Let me back in so I can fulfil my dream of being a Page 3 girl… honest!”
Her case has already been to the Supreme Court. That decision can not be appealed.
No, it only went as far to tge EWCA Court which is not the Supreme Court.
@@annamcg7473 No, the Supreme Court is the highest Court in the U.K. You can not appeal. End of.
@@rogerhargreaves2272 it hasn’t went to the Supreme Court as that is her last chance and all media is saying this will go to the Supreme Court.
@@CarrieS0703 In July 2020, the Court of Appeal ruled that Begum should be permitted to return to the UK in order to fairly contest the Home Secretary’s decision by instructing lawyers properly.[8] This ruling was appealed to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom which, on 26 February 2021, ruled unanimously against her, reversing the decision of the Court of Appeal and preventing her return.
@@hicmad Yea, it was an appeal against Sajid David’s decision (the then Home Secretary). This is an unusual case as you can’t normally appeal the Supreme Courts decision. It’s also very expensive, so I don’t know who is funding this.
Thanks for your thoughts on this, interesting.
She knew exactly what she was doing, made videos after she arrived there and deserves no sympathy from any UK courts.
Great result 👏
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
Great news keep her out.
A bad day for the infamous BBC.
Never mind, if the BBC carry on vilifying Britain and white people, I'm sure they can create some more Jihadists
@@danielcraig4974 It would be to vile for the media reporting those jihad fighters are now gang bangging your mom
Lol at her crawling back. She probably wants welfare too 😂
Good news. No more legal aid money for her please, the lawyers have made too much
They should strip citizenship of sympathizers as well.
Oh no, we wouldn’t want to be “cruel.”
SHE WAS 15 A TEENAGER
UK GOVT IS CRUEL
@@21boxhead I am the same age as her. At that age, I was still afraid to sleep away from home. This girl illegally trafficked herself over an international border, all in order to live under a genocidal Islamic state.
All most people know about is propaganda in the media to make sure Britain stays a USA lapdog. Most people don't know that Islamic extremism hardly existed before the USA were arming and training the religious extremists in Afghanistan in the 1980s against Russia. While the USA were chanting against Commies, they were already creating their next enemy to keep the weapons manufacturers going. Then when Russia left Afghanistan, the USA didn't care what the extremists were doing there all through the 90s, until 9/11 in 2001. The extremists were blowing up ancient Buddhists statues, banning females from education, while making females walk around in tents and killing people for religious reasons.
Why do people make up conspiracy theories about 9/11 that can't be proved, while ignoring actual, easily proved historical facts, about how Afghanistan wouldn't be an extremist hotspot if it wasn't for the USA?
Also when British people are killed by extremists who trained in Libya after Gaddafi was killed, such as in Tunisia and the Manchester concert, no media reminds people of when the secret service whistle blower David Shayler told how Britain was going along with the USA funding Al Qaeda in Libya to kill Gaddafi. People don't even care our own government fund extremists who then harm us, to overthrow leaders who don't want to trade oil in USA Dollars.
Our media were making up loads of propaganda against Assad in Syria, the ex NHS eye Doctor and his modern British born wife. Syria under Assad was one of the few middle east countries with many religions that live together in peace. There were ancient Christian communities who still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus, but after USA involvement, half the country has been taken over by the Islamic State.
Also if we're such a free country, why has Russia Today News been banned from our screens? Is it because they pointed out the hypocrisy of Britain and the USA selling arms to nations like Saudi Arabia, where many people don't have full human rights, while our media and government try to get us going about less extremist nations?
@21boxhead. Sometimes in life you gotta cruel to be kind. It's for her own good and safety for others .
She wasn’t even apologetic in her past interviews. When asked what she thought it mean to be British, she basically listed benefits of living in Britain to her: “Living, working, education.” How about democracy, freedom of speech and rights for women?
You can see it in her eyes. No empathy behind them at all.
SCHEMING, LIAR!
Excellent, UK has more than enough Islamists already.
keep the trash out 👍
bad news. they are already here. see them demonstrating at parliament.
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
What a disgusting comment. Sick individual.
dont know about this, just glad this isisbitch didnt make it in@@danielcraig4974
I hope the same applies for the British citizens that have travelled to Israel to join the IDF in their genocide in Gaza
Why is she even allowed to appeal?
Because we have laws. We are not ISIS.
@@susivarga7303 so she's allowed to continue to appeal until she's permitted to come back to the UK no matter how many appeals it takes her not to mention the wasting of tax payers money?
She's not in prison where she can be rehabilitated and let back into society. Or is she?
@@Do_not_assume wtf are you on about? Did you just make up a story in your head?
What a waste of money she can pay for own legal fees herself why should the British public financially support a traitor?
The Government spent too much time on her.
If 8 years old can decide about transgender futer why 15y old can not be fully responsible for her decision ...
Just how many appeals will it take before the answer NO is accepted.
One more Supreme Court then if that fails ECHR so 2 yes two more.
She won’t accept no for an answer. She’ll continue wasting taxpayer money with her legal fees until she’s finally exhausted all possible ways to appeal. Like every single illegal migrant that crosses the channel she wants to mooch off the taxpayers for years with a comfy life provided by the government at the taxpayers expense.
The only difference is that she had all that. She was a British citizen who grew up with all the rights, protections and benefits that come with it. And then she betrayed her country, rejected it and all that it stood for to go and join a regime of brutal terro**sts. She had a good time with them and was perfectly happy to breed new little terr**ists for them.
Until it all came crashing down as the terro**st caliphate wasn’t as strong as they thought they were and got crushed. Then she wound up in a prison camp for terr**ists and it sucked. Until a journalist found her and gave her a voice. Then she seized the opportunity to improve her life by asking to rejoin the very country she betrayed and rejected. She didn’t regret joining the terr**ists, it’s just that life in Britain was better than a prison camp. That’s it.
Like the illegal migrants she wanted to abuse the system and weaponise our own kindness against us. Thank goodness that the British government was just about smart enough to see through her deception and strip her of that which she had already thrown away.
@robertrogers5084 yeah unfortunately but worth it if the courts keep doing the right thing.
Ask her legal people, and where the money comes from to support their apparently endless endeavours
on behalf of this traitor?
Probably a thousand!
BBC are absolutely gutted
Of course they are. They seem to have a fondness for the enablers of terr**ist regimes.
She faced heavy trafficking in her taxicab on the way to the airport.
I saw footage of her and the other girls boarding the flight. They got on the plain willingly, like the rest of the travelers.
Yeah
As a muslim, i agree with all the british ppl who don‘t want her to get her citizenship back because she stated in prior interviews that she went there by herself, free will and it didn’t faze her at all to see someones head in the bin. she has no right to come back to the UK and she shouldn’t.
Good decision. Sending a clear message to others too.
IS THAT RIGHT; under the now established British legal precedence ANY country that arrests a Briton on suspicion or allegations of been a member or associating with members of a proscribed group in their jurisdiction are NOT necessarily guaranteed the benefits of British citizenship, even under British legal precedence's , ergo no need for extradition or to respect extradition treaties or agreements...
I mean, you open the window a crack bit to allow some evil, someone is bound to smash-in the door to expose ALL of it....
This comment 💯
Yeah that the UK is now a decivilised sh!t hole with No Human rights, and deserves EVERYTHING it gets
Whatever happened to 'magnanimity in victory'???
The Daily Telegraph reported that Begum had been an "enforcer" in IS's "morality police", and had tried to recruit other young women to join the jihadist group.[23] The report said that she was allowed to carry a Kalashnikov rifle and earned a reputation as a strict enforcer of IS's laws
I use the DT to wipe my ass.... wasn't good enough quality even for that.
She wasn't a victim, her three dead children were! The girls she terrorized as an "enforcer" were!
I heard that too but I believe it was most likely Sharmeena Begum (Uddin) who encouraged her three friends Shamima Begum (Ali), Amira Abase and Kadiza Sultana to join her in Syria.
Either way I don't want any of the men and women back. The only ones I have sympathy for are the ones who were taken as children by their parents.
Shamima Begum (Ali) not Alu!
@@leigh-mariehamilton3361 She was a child...
Well done for the British! Good decision taken to protect their national security!
A whole nation’s security is more important that one person’s citizenship.
"She's the author of her own misfortunes".
😢😢
😂😂😂😂😂 Truer words have not been spoken! She made her bed, and now she can lie in it.
The law is made to protect the innocent, not a loophole for scumbags. The right decision was made
I agree although there are far too many scumbags that are able to take advantage of loopholes with the help of lefty lawyers getting paid by legal aid.
Praise the lord!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
so gay
amen ✝️
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
Thank you
Mohammad??
Hallelujah 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
If she was allowed back she will come back and claim disability benefits claiming (shes under threat) for the rest of her life and nobody will give her a job, she'll be given council housing (ahead of people on the waiting list) and possibly a new identity costing around £1'000'000 and all us tax payers will have to fund it. I dont wana pay for her and neither should you. Stop being naive. She knows what she was doing then and she knows what shes doing now trying to tug on peoples heart strings.
You realise she'd be in maximum security prison right? Why do you think she would be free if she returned? 🤣
She would get all of that, and within a year, be strapping a bomb on herself a go murder a lg group of people. These people are brainwashed, and I don't believe for a moment she has suddenly come to her senses.
@@TVIDS123 she would only be in a prison for a short time. 'Her mental health' would suffer and she would live off the taxpayers for the rest of her life. Who would ever employ her? She would need security protection all her life as well. Living here she would cost the UK tens of millions of Pounds. It has cost £5 million at least already.
@@susanwestern6434Exactly. Well said. She's cost millions in legal fees alone. The Left Wing media have turned her into some kind of 'celebrity' when in reality she is a traitor of the highest order
@@susanwestern6434 don't be ridiculous. She'd have a whole life order like Wayne Couzens.
She knew what she was doing when she got on that plane. I have not an ounce of sympathy for her.
This'll be killing the BBC 😂
Why? You lot have gone off a cliff ...
Let Ms. Begum stay where she is. She chose to go there and she is absolutely home there.
The BBC must be devastated but this is great news for the rest of us.
Who is paying for all these appeals?
It's either legal aid or she has a lot of money under her matrass in her tent.
UK tax payers.
I just asked the same question!
@@MONK_LAUGH not any more - I don't live in the UK!
we are!
You make your bed, you lie in it. End of conversation.
well said
She can go to Bangladesh and live with her dad.
She can't. They revoked her citizenship as well.
Todays paper stated she has wasted 7million pounds on legal aid why she’s not a British citizen
She can stay in Syria for all it matters, she gets to live with the consequences of her actions
As a Indian I agree it's silly@@matthewcaughey8898
You probably prefer the Daily Mail, right?
Her comments afterwards, were pro radical Islamist, and had no regret, so the origlnal decision was just and as the Appeal Court said ... there was no reason to remove it.
She was NOT trafficked.
Don’t let her in again, ever.
She was 15 not 5. She joined ISIS willingly, now she has to pay the price for her own actions. Or maybe, she can gladly go live in Bangladesh since she was a dual citizen!
NOT 4 LONG
She can invite her friends and family members to join her too 🙏🏾
There is not much of a UK left for her to return to. A struggling economy, an alienated, dismissed and subjugated population. Our country is infiltrated, gentrified and poorly governed. Our UK is now an overridden, politically confused, ridiculously woke and crime infested country at the mercy of foreign interests, foreign cultural and religious dysfunction, protests and violence, international liabilities and crippled by political correctness.
There is no infastructure to halt or pevent illegal entry into this country by boat, however, the political and legal system is willing to fund, promote and broadcast this case at great cost using immense resource.
But that's what Brexit was supposed to fix, no? Instead just kneecapped the country 😂🤡
"There is no infastructure (sic) to halt or pevent (sic) illegal entry into this country by boat ..." There is a Navy, Police Force, Border Force and a so-called asylum service. All are hopelessly underfunded and demotivated.
what a stupid comment think comparatively. She is in a camp with no guarantee of food, electricity and running water and where all 3 of her children died from illness. And she is in a war torn country where the dictator commits war crimes on his own civilians and terrorists run rampant. I know which country I'd rather be in.
@RJMusicLTD Still it's the home of her childhood and where her parents reside, she should come back and face the music.
@@Charlielx I didn't get the idea that was what Brexit was for, it was never a magic wand that would bring about paradise, only a 'get out of jail' card! We've not been kneecapped where I live, things are slightly better although the politicians are now (almost all) raving mad. No one could foresee the rise in prices due to the Ukraine/Russia war. 😏
She gave up her citizenship in the firet place, there should never have been any appeal accepted.
She is a conniving and lies lies lies aith impunity all the time.
Watch Trudeau instantly give her a Canadian citizenship...
I work hard, pay my taxes and obey the law. This decision is a start in the long journey to convince me that in the UK criminal behaviour is actually punished and actions have consequences.
good lad you need to keep paying your taxes who else will cough up the bill for these lawyer crooks, there not lawyers money making racket from the tax payer its called theft
She has no case, she is the enemy proven.
What about all the returning jihad fighters the Tories have invited back? Why don't the media talk about that anymore?.
I am not a British cituzen, but applaud the British's decision in order to protect her country and people.Well done!
"She was the author of her own misfortune." What else needs to be said?
Excellent news to learn. The arguments put forward for the appellant are basically fallacies in nature.
IS THAT RIGHT; under the now established British legal precedence ANY country that arrests a Briton on suspicion or allegations of been a member or associating with members of a proscribed group in their jurisdiction are NOT necessarily guaranteed the benefits of British citizenship, even under British legal precedence's , ergo no need for extradition or to respect extradition treaties or agreements...
I mean, you open the window a crack bit to allow some evil, someone is bound to smash-in the door to expose ALL of it....
How so?
The British court made the right decisión. She traveled to SYRIA now she is Syrian with all the problems and lunacy that comes with it. Live with it!
It wasn't a mistake she made. Begun made a choice and went there voluntary.
And she is making a choice to attempt this appeal for reinstating her citizenship. Worth a try, nothing to lose and everything to gain. I don’t think she will lose any sleep as she has zero remorse.
@@CalvinK-the_old_fogey She is not wanted and serves no purpose to this country and not entitled to legal aid. SIMPLE
Yayyy!!! You reap what you sow
Around 4:50 she doesn’t mention that other G20 nations have punishments far worse than citizenship stripping.