Thank you for putting this up, informative and well presented. I remember the 6R4 from the time, and when the late Tony Pond drove it to it's best World Rally result. He'd previously been the works driver of the TR7 V8's. I always remember someone's comment... along the lines of .... ' Up to a point, almost anyone of reasonable skill could drive an Escort fast. To drive a TR7 fast, you had to be a hero..'. .
Tony Pond was definitely a hero. Seriously quick, and a great character who brought so much to British rallying in the 70s and 80s. He was instrumental in the development of the 6R4, and many of its successes. He was taken from us too soon.
Sadly they, BL, finally employed someone who knew what they were doing with suspension setup, but by the time he got them sorted, mainly with Per Ekland driving at the time, their program was cancelled. Example was when he arrived, Ekland was struggling in 4th gear on one bumpy corner on their test loop, fighting to keep the car on the road, and when he had finished, Ekland could go around it absolutely flat out in 5th with only one hand on the wheel. To think that the TR8's ability was always there for all those years, just that people didn't know what they were doing with it. What could have been.
Stumbled on this video by pure chance. I used to work for a motorsport company in Bicester back in the late '80s that was managed by Ian Beveridge (Austin Rover engineering manager at the time of the works team). He purchased a works car when the factory team was closed off that I used to service in the workshop along with other customer 6R4s'. We built and ran the car used by Tony Pond at the Birmingham Superprix in '88. In 1990 I went freelance and ended up working for a privateer in Iceland running his 6R4, which I had converted to LHD with just hours to spare before scrutineering! I was lucky enough to give the odd car a shake down test drive and can honestly say, it was an experience that I'll never forget. Keep up the good work Jack.
In the late 80s a friend and I followed the Cambrian Rally. I vividly remember the Penmachno forest stage. A 6R4 went off and about 20 spectators literally carried it back onto the fire road. It then needed a push start. It was more difficult to push than carry. The three differentials created so much drag the bloody thing seemed to weigh three tons. I reckon it needed 100 bhp just to turn the transmission.Then it fired up and that engine note was as meliflouos as the Stratos. The Audis sounded good but the other turbos eg Pugrots sounded like food mixers in comparison. Heady days.
The 6R4 was my very favourite car ever, on the rally stages watched, you had no doubt whatsoever that it was a 6R4 coming. It had such a unique sound - like nothing else on the track.
Finally someone who knows the Metro 6R4 engine is basically a Cosworth "inspired" V6 which is also used for the Jaguar XJ220 My mate his 6R4 has been exported to Spain last year was also converted to LHD in red/yellow French Beer "33" Export livery, the nicest rally livery I personally believe. Most Metro's ended up in the Rallycross circus after group B was banned, and Rallycross cars live a very hard life so most of the aluminium roofs have been replaced by the sheet metal standard Metro roofs. The last 6R4's were offered for £ 28000 if I correctly remember.
@@christineayres7199 Will Gollop's twin Turbo rally cross car was even quicker (in the 90's though), it was so powerful he had trouble keeping the tyres on the rims, wheelspin was so violent it would break the beads.
Yep, based on the Cosworth DFV formula 1 engine, it's amazing the amount of "petrolheads" that still say it's a Rover V8 "with two cylinders lopped off", also recently heard "not bad for an old Metro with a Jag V6" when the 6R4 had pretty much nothing in common with a Metro and the Jag XJ220 came after the 6R4.
The 6r4 had a two car entry in the 1985 Lombard RAC rally with Malcolm Wilson and Tony Pond. Malcolm unfortunately retired with transmission failure, but Tony went on to finish 3rd overall behind two Lancia Delta S4's on their debut event. Awesome little car and great video. Thanks.
I stayed at the Imperial Palace in 2001 (We flew home Sept 9th 2001!). They had an extensive motor museum, which we killed time in when waiting to be picked up for the airport. Lots of great cars, Liberace's Roller, Mussolini's Alfa, Elvis's Caddy etc etc.
Hi Jack, I live about 4 miles from Longbridge and have seen 6r4s around since the mid 80s. I was lucky enough to do some commentary at Shelsley Walsh recently. The same day a 6r4 beat the class record (enclosed cockpit car) getting to the top of the hill in 28 seconds. It was magical. Love these little 'bite size nuggets'. Great channel. thanks again Jamie
Thanks for the great video Jack.. I remember seeing these in back 1986 and Billy Coleman in the Rothmans 6r4 at the Donegal International rally☘️.. Just awesome!!!
Fantastic video Jack. Really interesting look at that wee beastie. Brings back memories, I used to love watching group b back in the day, especially the welsh stages covered in snow in the middle of the night. Always got a thrill from watching these monsters tearing around the countryside.
Good topic that Jack. The growing closer wailing sound from deep in the Forests then sight of a fast approaching MG Metro 6R4 is one of the very top Motor Sport experiences. For obvious reasons, that short demonstration hardly did the exceptional car justice. Imagine that. Cars considered too fast for competition and so banned.
M1st car was an A Reg blue 1.1 Metro. I once drove to college in it with t he handbrake on and only noticed when I tried to pull it up when parked. 2nd car was a C Reg 1.3 Vanden Plas with electric windows and cream leather seats. I thought I was the cheese driving around in that (I had the Outrun soundtrack cassette playing in the stereo). In the end I gave the to my brother when I got a company car where I worked. He drove it for a year and then traded it against a new Saxo.
Ah Citroen Saxos boy racers dream car lol. My mate used to drive his mums 1.0 L red metro after passing his test. (moved on to a mk 2 Escort 1.3, 1.3 Fiat Strada, then XR3i) Was fairly quick and handled reasonably due to the small wheels. Remember we maxxed it out @90mph down the A2 one night lol. (Couldn't help ourselves just passed our driving tests).
Always loved the 6R4 - they sound fantastic, and always look great flick flacking along a Forest stage. I always liked the way they bobbed up and down when braking hard!
Long ago I saw the car collection at the Imperial Palace (which is no more). Do not recall this car but I bet it was there at the time. I remember seeing a Ford Escort, and the information plaque said it had a zero to 60 time of 3sec and at the time that left me amazed a car let alone an Escort could have a time like that. All the cars had price tags and you could just buy them if you had the funds. I remember a gull door Benz had a price tag of $100k, just as a time frame this was around 20 yrs ago.
Amazing car... I remember driving over to a rally stage in my MG Metro turbo to watch the 6R4s doing their stuff. The sound of them ♥️ when rallying is fantastic 👌 so much power. Thanks for the video...
Great video Jack and a brilliant era of Group B rally, love a 6R4 in the Computervision livery. Might remember there was another mid-engined Metro when Rover were developing the MGF they used a Metro Van mule complete with fictional courier firm livery. Love a video on the Bastos SD1 in the background, what a collection 👏
Enjoying this 6R4 video. I remember as a young trainee at a local body shop a customer buying a clubman spec to go rally crossing with after the group B ban. We got the job of painting it. It was direct from Austin Rover, all white but the arches and duct were unpainted and finished in bare glass fibre or kevlar. I remember the lack lustre steering wheel and standard looking dash dash (I didn't realise it was clubman spec at the time) Wow, what a car, it arrived and left on trade plates making such a noise, what a special thing 👍
Another fine example of your videos on such an amazing car. My abiding memories of the 6r4 are Tony Pond and David llewllyn (amongst others of course) throwing them around. Mr Pond also had experience of your mentioned TR8. One slight omission was of the successful SD1 v8 either as a rally car or Btcc racer. On mentioning Tony Pond I can highly recommend the TH-cam video of him setting a long standing record lap of the TT circuit in a 827 Vitesse with 2.7 Honda engine, in just about showroom spec, a marvel to see this man's extraordinary skill and commitment so sadly missed. Locally an old high school colleague runs a mint BRG Metro Turbo, and elsewhere there is a pristine Red Maestro Turbo runs about in fine fettle. Im a fan of the 75, one been in an cdti model and they are lovely cars. Obvs the MG version with Mustang V8 power is a favourite. You don't ever see them though, I'd like to see a modded one! Keep up the good work. Best wishes, Ben🚍🚌🇬🇧
cracking job jack, now thats a real mans car ! i was lucky enough to be a passenger in both a 6R4 + RS200 back in the day. i can still remember the noise + smell around those 5 laps of a rally-cross track, metro was frightingly quick off the line, i was constantly pounding the passenger floor, looking for a brake pedal! RS was a slightly slower start, but when that turbo hit "11", the beast properly woke up. only got 2 laps in that one, as it blew a turbo hose [sounded like it] , and i didnt get a refund or second run... i so miss the late eighties, anybody got a delorean, 88 MPH please....
I remember seeing two 6r4's in that casino around 2003. I remember one of them looked like it had taken a hard hit to thr rhs and not been repaired all that well. They were both for sale.
Great video thanks.. Can't help but reminisce watching these things as a kid. Particular memories of the Welsh / Shell international in Cardiff castle. Even though my dad was running a sunbeam in that event, I always declared the 6R4 for my favorite.
Great video Jack. I enjoyed watching Group B rallying back in the day on tv. It’s a shame it was cut short but it’s understandable why it was. There looks to be some interesting cars in the building alongside the Metro.
BL used to bring the test cars to the MoD vehicle test facilities at Bagshot in Surrey. During tyre testing I had 4 laps of the gravel circuit with Jimmy McCrae driving and me in the nav seat. 15 mins of terror but I'll remember with fondness. Thanks Jimmy.
Shared to the Metro Owners Club on FB....they'll love it. Great video as always, A dream car for me, there's a replica on car and Classic for a snip at 75k 🤣👍 when they were banned Mr&Mrs Jones could walk into an Austin Rover dealership and buy one for around 15k!
Cracking video Jack, kind of knew the basic differences between Clubman and International specs but you covered the details well. Always loved the 6R4, BUT, these days i'd have a Peugeot 205 T16, the road version of that car would be a car you could use regularly (without going deaf), Rover never made a road version of the 6R4 unlike the T16, Audi Sport Quattro, Ford RS200, Renault Turbo Maxi etc.
I remember a friend telling me that he was at the RAC one year standing near a top speed display. The Metro came down a road at 84/86 mph....the Delta S4 at over 100mph. The NA Metro hard a tough fight against the S4, 205 T16 and the like.
Thanks for this jack amazing history of the 6R4 the last time I watched those cars in action was at Brandshatch rallycross circuit in the 90s with my Dad 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Awesome, love this machine but will never drive one or own one I guess. Let’s hope people continue to cherish them and drive them so we can see and hear them!
Loving this from the outset. Brilliant fact based documentary full of every true detail. This is, certainly my idea of a great watch my friend! Love it and thumbs up!
I ended up buying a 1992 K reg Metro GTa 16v Catalyst due to my nostalgia for the 6R4..... It was a major disappointment for many reasons. However, this upload is one that I very much appreciate despite my not so good memories.
I love this sort of content Jack , you’re doing an awesome job with the channel buddy! .. I’ve always absolutely loved the 6r4 it’s just such an awesome car! I’m pretty sure they used the 6r4 engine in the xj220 I could be wrong on that🤔
So very easy for one to watch this type motoring nostalgia and although ever so interesting find myself quietly trivialising the boxy designs or styling from the past. However I now more appreciate the ground breaking engineering underneath and huge effort undertaken; usually also unseen in order to take part in competition and be competitive, thanks 👍
Jack, the only 6R4 that I've seen in the metal was C870 EUD in 2007 at a classic car show in Bradford (the city of my birth as it happens). This was in original condition and was driven by Rob Arthur and the late great Tony Pond who also rallied the works TR7s.
A fantastic video for those of us who experienced Group B. Fun facts: The VDO instruments that show oil pressure and/or oil temperature are the same as on the Porsche 924, 931 (924 Turbo), 937 (924 Carrera GT) and 944 (pre mid 1985).
Great video Jack, I like this format of 'history come alive'! I remember this car driving at Goodwood Festival of Speed a few years back, its an awesome machine!
Saw one of these driven in anger at a rally. Take off at the start was in a different league from all the other cars including evos and Subaru’s. Like a catapult.
Rally cars are awesome, thank you Jack! Great fun, historic indepth view in a fantastic presentation. Very much appreciated showing the interesting and rare. And the sound👍
How have I not subscribed? It's done now, great video & nice to learn something new, especially about the 6R4. The sound of these cars at full chat is something else.
Great film. The cars ended up physically bigger than than the Maestro they weren't based on. Remember seeing them on the RAC around Weston Park (?) as an excitable schoolboy.... that distinctive bark, echoing through the the damp November woodland as they approached.... nostalgia isn't what it used to be!
In the bonkers world of Group B the Metro really did cement it’s place as one of the oddballs and the Computervision 6R4 is an absolute icon now. Forgive me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the Jag XJ220 engine a derivative of the former 6R4 lump ? I can’t wait to see what other cars you get to drive Jack the video was fantastic !
The MG Metro Turbo was my first car. Much prettier than an XR2, R5 Turbo especially the red over grey, complete with a turbo boost gauge! No doubt most of them have since disolved.
That's an amazing piece, great info. Can't believe it was found in a US casino. The death of Group B killed it like the rest of the type, can remember seeing the pictures of the unsold ones at the factory after that no one wanted, same with the RS200. Putting it and a normal Metro side by side is a laugh, they look so different. Can remember a couple of guys buying the body kits for the standard car, just didn't look right.
The casino this came from has a car museum in the top floor I went about 10 years ago there's an rs200 there its the 1st one I've seen in real life. I was shocked as it was all American muscle cars with an rs200 in amongst them.
I went to the museum/showroom that car was in in my early teen years. It was there along with a Lancia 037, and a Ford RS200. It was an absolutely brilliant place to visit, but sadly the car showrooms/museum closed in 2017.
I've been lucky enough to see the group B cars in action when we used to follow the RAC the noise and atmosphere in the forest first the whistles then the roar pops and bangs epic.......The Winning Streak was a mini series that featured the 6R4 starring Colin from east enders I think !
Great video Jack, big respect for the 6r4.... But can we get a better look at the Bastos TWR Vitesse? See if you can work your charm on the Saunders collection for a 3rd time.
Great video Jack, whilst slightly too young to remember them that well, they’ve always been my favourite rally car, even behind a Delta S4. I suspect this one could have been a good 20 minutes longer! 👍
Great content ! I would really recommend getting sponsorship and a Patreon account to help fund the channel. All the full time TH-camrs I watch have one or both of these. I don’t see any loss of integrity, it’s just the best way to build a channel .
Hey Nick! Thanks, I will look into it though it’s now possible to just do the same thing through YT I think with a channel membership type thing. The thing is I’d then have to try and produce extra content for members and I just don’t have time right now!
I thought I recalled seeing this one at the Imperial Palace collection in Las Vegas around 2011? The hotel had been rebranded by the time I returned in 2013. There were some very interesting European models in there. 2 I remember the most being an XJ220 which obviously shared the same engine, and lancia LC2 that competed at Lemans in the 80s.
I think there is atleast another Metro 6R4 converted to left hand drive. It was Didier Auriol's car for the end of the 1986 french asphalt rally championship (I think you used a picture of it in the video actually). Anyway, great video about the Metro 6R4!
Thank you for putting this up, informative and well presented. I remember the 6R4 from the time, and when the late Tony Pond drove it to it's best World Rally result. He'd previously been the works driver of the TR7 V8's. I always remember someone's comment... along the lines of .... ' Up to a point, almost anyone of reasonable skill could drive an Escort fast. To drive a TR7 fast, you had to be a hero..'. .
I should have definitely spoken a bit about Tony Pond.. amazing driver
Tony Pond was definitely a hero. Seriously quick, and a great character who brought so much to British rallying in the 70s and 80s. He was instrumental in the development of the 6R4, and many of its successes. He was taken from us too soon.
Sadly they, BL, finally employed someone who knew what they were doing with suspension setup, but by the time he got them sorted, mainly with Per Ekland driving at the time, their program was cancelled.
Example was when he arrived, Ekland was struggling in 4th gear on one bumpy corner on their test loop, fighting to keep the car on the road, and when he had finished, Ekland could go around it absolutely flat out in 5th with only one hand on the wheel.
To think that the TR8's ability was always there for all those years, just that people didn't know what they were doing with it. What could have been.
Stumbled on this video by pure chance. I used to work for a motorsport company in Bicester back in the late '80s that was managed by Ian Beveridge (Austin Rover engineering manager at the time of the works team). He purchased a works car when the factory team was closed off that I used to service in the workshop along with other customer 6R4s'. We built and ran the car used by Tony Pond at the Birmingham Superprix in '88. In 1990 I went freelance and ended up working for a privateer in Iceland running his 6R4, which I had converted to LHD with just hours to spare before scrutineering! I was lucky enough to give the odd car a shake down test drive and can honestly say, it was an experience that I'll never forget. Keep up the good work Jack.
In the late 80s a friend and I followed the Cambrian Rally. I vividly remember the Penmachno forest stage. A 6R4 went off and about 20 spectators literally carried it back onto the fire road. It then needed a push start. It was more difficult to push than carry. The three differentials created so much drag the bloody thing seemed to weigh three tons. I reckon it needed 100 bhp just to turn the transmission.Then it fired up and that engine note was as meliflouos as the Stratos. The Audis sounded good but the other turbos eg Pugrots sounded like food mixers in comparison. Heady days.
I like the T16s, the evo 2 sounds great.
But I like the brutality of it, not only the beauty.
The 6R4 was my very favourite car ever, on the rally stages watched, you had no doubt whatsoever that it was a 6R4 coming. It had such a unique sound - like nothing else on the track.
Thanks for watching Willie! It does sound quite special
Ever since as an impressionable 11-year-old in 1985 my dad took me to stage of the RAC rally the 6R4 has been at the top of my dream garage list.
Finally someone who knows the Metro 6R4 engine is basically a Cosworth "inspired" V6 which is also used for the Jaguar XJ220
My mate his 6R4 has been exported to Spain last year was also converted to LHD in red/yellow French Beer "33" Export livery, the nicest rally livery I personally believe.
Most Metro's ended up in the Rallycross circus after group B was banned, and Rallycross cars live a very hard life so most of the aluminium roofs have been replaced by the sheet metal standard Metro roofs. The last 6R4's were offered for £ 28000 if I correctly remember.
33.. Dont like that number
The Metro 6r4 would hit 60 mph in 3.2 secs back in the 1980s that was ridiculously fast
@@christineayres7199 Will Gollop's twin Turbo rally cross car was even quicker (in the 90's though), it was so powerful he had trouble keeping the tyres on the rims, wheelspin was so violent it would break the beads.
Yep, based on the Cosworth DFV formula 1 engine, it's amazing the amount of "petrolheads" that still say it's a Rover V8 "with two cylinders lopped off", also recently heard "not bad for an old Metro with a Jag V6" when the 6R4 had pretty much nothing in common with a Metro and the Jag XJ220 came after the 6R4.
@@Markycarandbikestuff Yeah too much power mate for back then
The 6r4 had a two car entry in the 1985 Lombard RAC rally with Malcolm Wilson and Tony Pond. Malcolm unfortunately retired with transmission failure, but Tony went on to finish 3rd overall behind two Lancia Delta S4's on their debut event. Awesome little car and great video. Thanks.
Thank you for watching Fazerman!
Thanks Jack for covering group B. Too many TH-cam concentrate on new supercars. Keep up the good work
I stayed at the Imperial Palace in 2001 (We flew home Sept 9th 2001!). They had an extensive motor museum, which we killed time in when waiting to be picked up for the airport. Lots of great cars, Liberace's Roller, Mussolini's Alfa, Elvis's Caddy etc etc.
Great to know you saw it in person Caeser!
Hi Jack, I live about 4 miles from Longbridge and have seen 6r4s around since the mid 80s. I was lucky enough to do some commentary at Shelsley Walsh recently. The same day a 6r4 beat the class record (enclosed cockpit car) getting to the top of the hill in 28 seconds. It was magical. Love these little 'bite size nuggets'. Great channel. thanks again Jamie
Thanks for watching And for the memories Jamie!
@@Number27 Jack you have to come to Shelsley Walsh this year. The cars are amazing and it's the oldest racing track in the world.
Thanks for the great video Jack.. I remember seeing these in back 1986 and Billy Coleman in the Rothmans 6r4 at the Donegal International rally☘️.. Just awesome!!!
That sound really brings back memories! Last time I saw a 6R4 used in anger was at Longleat back around 1988.
They do sound fabulous!! Thanks for watching chap!
Fantastic video Jack. Really interesting look at that wee beastie. Brings back memories, I used to love watching group b back in the day, especially the welsh stages covered in snow in the middle of the night. Always got a thrill from watching these monsters tearing around the countryside.
Good topic that Jack.
The growing closer wailing sound from deep in the Forests then sight of a fast approaching MG Metro 6R4 is one of the very top Motor Sport experiences. For obvious reasons, that short demonstration hardly did the exceptional car justice.
Imagine that. Cars considered too fast for competition and so banned.
M1st car was an A Reg blue 1.1 Metro. I once drove to college in it with t he handbrake on and only noticed when I tried to pull it up when parked. 2nd car was a C Reg 1.3 Vanden Plas with electric windows and cream leather seats. I thought I was the cheese driving around in that (I had the Outrun soundtrack cassette playing in the stereo). In the end I gave the to my brother when I got a company car where I worked. He drove it for a year and then traded it against a new Saxo.
Ah Citroen Saxos boy racers dream car lol.
My mate used to drive his mums 1.0 L red metro after passing his test.
(moved on to a mk 2 Escort 1.3, 1.3 Fiat Strada, then XR3i)
Was fairly quick and handled reasonably due to the small wheels.
Remember we maxxed it out @90mph down the A2 one night lol.
(Couldn't help ourselves just passed our driving tests).
My mate had a yellow 1.1 Metro!!
Thanks for more memories Jack, another rare & quirky gem! Was good to hear it in action!
Great job Jack. Thank you.
11:16 is that an RS200 in the collecton?! I'd love to see a video about that, I've always been quite fascinated by them. Fantastic video, Jack!
I used to see these around my way for the annual Sunseeker rally. Always a crowd favourite and not hard to see (or hear) why!
Always loved the 6R4 - they sound fantastic, and always look great flick flacking along a Forest stage. I always liked the way they bobbed up and down when braking hard!
Mate , absolutely loved this, I’m of that generation and think you told the story perfectly 👍
That’s soo good to hear, thanks Leigh!
Hey Jack,I remember watching these early 80s but then came the RS200 WOW,!!!!! get a look at one of those if you can cheers Jason 👍👍
Long ago I saw the car collection at the Imperial Palace (which is no more). Do not recall this car but I bet it was there at the time. I remember seeing a Ford Escort, and the information plaque said it had a zero to 60 time of 3sec and at the time that left me amazed a car let alone an Escort could have a time like that. All the cars had price tags and you could just buy them if you had the funds. I remember a gull door Benz had a price tag of $100k, just as a time frame this was around 20 yrs ago.
Great to know you’d visited the collection!
Amazing car... I remember driving over to a rally stage in my MG Metro turbo to watch the 6R4s doing their stuff. The sound of them ♥️ when rallying is fantastic 👌 so much power.
Thanks for the video...
That's a real hero car. Loved the 6R4 since I played Forza Horizon 3.
Thanks for watching Lewis!!
Great video Jack and a brilliant era of Group B rally, love a 6R4 in the Computervision livery. Might remember there was another mid-engined Metro when Rover were developing the MGF they used a Metro Van mule complete with fictional courier firm livery. Love a video on the Bastos SD1 in the background, what a collection 👏
Mere mortals dont get to see these differences. Superb video thank so much!
Enjoying this 6R4 video.
I remember as a young trainee at a local body shop a customer buying a clubman spec to go rally crossing with after the group B ban. We got the job of painting it.
It was direct from Austin Rover, all white but the arches and duct were unpainted and finished in bare glass fibre or kevlar.
I remember the lack lustre steering wheel and standard looking dash dash (I didn't realise it was clubman spec at the time)
Wow, what a car, it arrived and left on trade plates making such a noise, what a special thing 👍
Another fine example of your videos on such an amazing car.
My abiding memories of the 6r4 are Tony Pond and David llewllyn (amongst others of course) throwing them around. Mr Pond also had experience of your mentioned TR8. One slight omission was of the successful SD1 v8 either as a rally car or Btcc racer. On mentioning Tony Pond I can highly recommend the TH-cam video of him setting a long standing record lap of the TT circuit in a 827 Vitesse with 2.7 Honda engine, in just about showroom spec, a marvel to see this man's extraordinary skill and commitment so sadly missed.
Locally an old high school colleague runs a mint BRG Metro Turbo, and elsewhere there is a pristine Red Maestro Turbo runs about in fine fettle.
Im a fan of the 75, one been in an cdti model and they are lovely cars. Obvs the MG version with Mustang V8 power is a favourite. You don't ever see them though, I'd like to see a modded one!
Keep up the good work.
Best wishes, Ben🚍🚌🇬🇧
Lovely job, isn't that the engine from the Jaguar XJ220 as well...sounds awesome.
other way round
A very well presented video of this part of British motoring history. Thank you! 🙂👍
Thank you for watching Rottie!
cracking job jack, now thats a real mans car ! i was lucky enough to be a passenger in both a 6R4 + RS200 back in the day. i can still remember the noise + smell around those 5 laps of a rally-cross track, metro was frightingly quick off the line, i was constantly pounding the passenger floor, looking for a brake pedal! RS was a slightly slower start, but when that turbo hit "11", the beast properly woke up. only got 2 laps in that one, as it blew a turbo hose [sounded like it] , and i didnt get a refund or second run... i so miss the late eighties, anybody got a delorean, 88 MPH please....
I remember seeing two 6r4's in that casino around 2003. I remember one of them looked like it had taken a hard hit to thr rhs and not been repaired all that well. They were both for sale.
Thanks for posting this. That sound brings back memories of Brands Hatch.
Great video thanks.. Can't help but reminisce watching these things as a kid. Particular memories of the Welsh / Shell international in Cardiff castle. Even though my dad was running a sunbeam in that event, I always declared the 6R4 for my favorite.
Great video Jack. I enjoyed watching Group B rallying back in the day on tv. It’s a shame it was cut short but it’s understandable why it was. There looks to be some interesting cars in the building alongside the Metro.
Thanks for a great video, brings back memories of watching Tony Pond in the RAC all those years ago.
BL used to bring the test cars to the MoD vehicle test facilities at Bagshot in Surrey. During tyre testing I had 4 laps of the gravel circuit with Jimmy McCrae driving and me in the nav seat. 15 mins of terror but I'll remember with fondness. Thanks Jimmy.
That engine sound, for a few moments I was back in the North Yorkshire & Kielder forest complexes in the mid 1980's. Great video, Jack!
Great vid - a nice balance between history detail and firing ‘em up 👍
Love these historical motoring films you do! Really appreciate your taking the time to do them
For me the best sounding rally car ever
Top quality, Jack!
Can you do the TWR SD1 next, please...
The one in the back ground there...
Yeah, that one...
Thanks, mate!
Shared to the Metro Owners Club on FB....they'll love it. Great video as always, A dream car for me, there's a replica on car and Classic for a snip at 75k 🤣👍 when they were banned Mr&Mrs Jones could walk into an Austin Rover dealership and buy one for around 15k!
Ha.. im not kind to the standard Metro though. Hope they’re not offended!!
@@Number27 we shrug it off 🤣
Cracking video Jack, kind of knew the basic differences between Clubman and International specs but you covered the details well. Always loved the 6R4, BUT, these days i'd have a Peugeot 205 T16, the road version of that car would be a car you could use regularly (without going deaf), Rover never made a road version of the 6R4 unlike the T16, Audi Sport Quattro, Ford RS200, Renault Turbo Maxi etc.
Should have made the MG EXE, a show prototype based on the 6R4
I remember a friend telling me that he was at the RAC one year standing near a top speed display. The Metro came down a road at 84/86 mph....the Delta S4 at over 100mph. The NA Metro hard a tough fight against the S4, 205 T16 and the like.
That sound is goosebump inducing
This thing sounded like nothing else, when you were in the forests watching the Rally you could hear this Beast Miles away. Loved it.
My favourite car of all time & good to see a factual & informative insight
Thanks for this jack amazing history of the 6R4 the last time I watched those cars in action was at Brandshatch rallycross circuit in the 90s with my Dad 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Glad you enjoyed it Paul!!
A great piece of motoring history and well presented Jack. Many thanks.
Awesome, love this machine but will never drive one or own one I guess. Let’s hope people continue to cherish them and drive them so we can see and hear them!
Loving this from the outset. Brilliant fact based documentary full of every true detail. This is, certainly my idea of a great watch my friend! Love it and thumbs up!
Thank you Cat… I see your RC car name is one of my favourites!!
I ended up buying a 1992 K reg Metro GTa 16v Catalyst due to my nostalgia for the 6R4.....
It was a major disappointment for many reasons.
However, this upload is one that I very much appreciate despite my not so good memories.
Thank you Graham!!
Lovely review of a little demon of a car! Interestingly the floor pan as I recall was actually partly from a Maestro.
Great stuff!
I love this sort of content Jack , you’re doing an awesome job with the channel buddy! .. I’ve always absolutely loved the 6r4 it’s just such an awesome car! I’m pretty sure they used the 6r4 engine in the xj220 I could be wrong on that🤔
They did, Jaguar bought the rights to the V6 engine and redesigned it and added two turbos.
@@Marvdogger2 I thought so! Cheers for the info 👍
Hey Ryan, thank you old chap and yes the 220 used this engine reworked with two turbos
The engine work was all done by TWR
@@Number27 Hi Jack, it always amazes me how manufacturers use the parts bin too great affect and also unfortunately terrible affects sometimes 🤣👍
So very easy for one to watch this type motoring nostalgia and although ever so interesting find myself quietly trivialising the boxy designs or styling from the past.
However I now more appreciate the ground breaking engineering underneath and huge effort undertaken; usually also unseen in order to take part in competition and be competitive, thanks 👍
Jack, the only 6R4 that I've seen in the metal was C870 EUD in 2007 at a classic car show in Bradford (the city of my birth as it happens). This was in original condition and was driven by Rob Arthur and the late great Tony Pond who also rallied the works TR7s.
6R4...WOW.....Brilliant video and excellant info Jack...
A fantastic video for those of us who experienced Group B. Fun facts: The VDO instruments that show oil pressure and/or oil temperature are the same as on the Porsche 924, 931 (924 Turbo), 937 (924 Carrera GT) and 944 (pre mid 1985).
Love these informative videos Jack. Great to find out about interesting cars with some history!
What a celebration of a car ! 👍
I remember these cars blasting through the Yorkshire Forrest's at night in the snow! you could hear the 6R4 coming from miles away. Fantastic.
Great video Jack, I like this format of 'history come alive'! I remember this car driving at Goodwood Festival of Speed a few years back, its an awesome machine!
Saw one of these driven in anger at a rally. Take off at the start was in a different league from all the other cars including evos and Subaru’s. Like a catapult.
Rally cars are awesome, thank you Jack! Great fun, historic indepth view in a fantastic presentation. Very much appreciated showing the interesting and rare. And the sound👍
I love how this is just a half-way conversion to LHD as the dash is still very much an RHD dash. :-) Great car, great feature!
The non-Clubman cars had the reversed dash to give the co-Driver all the information.
Was in the Museum at The Imperial Palace back in 2011. There was 3 RS200’s for sale and a Lancia 037. Amazing place.
How have I not subscribed?
It's done now, great video & nice to learn something new, especially about the 6R4.
The sound of these cars at full chat is something else.
Great thank you 🙏!
Great film. The cars ended up physically bigger than than the Maestro they weren't based on. Remember seeing them on the RAC around Weston Park (?) as an excitable schoolboy.... that distinctive bark, echoing through the the damp November woodland as they approached.... nostalgia isn't what it used to be!
In the bonkers world of Group B the Metro really did cement it’s place as one of the oddballs and the Computervision 6R4 is an absolute icon now. Forgive me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the Jag XJ220 engine a derivative of the former 6R4 lump ? I can’t wait to see what other cars you get to drive Jack the video was fantastic !
Just add 2 turbos
Thank you Buck and yes the 220 engine used the 6R4 as the basis
@@Number27 However, the V64V and JV6 are really very different engines.
Another interesting video Jack ,keep them coming👍
Nice one Jack, I was surprised to see, or not to see ,any extra spot lights , 👍😀.
The MG Metro Turbo was my first car. Much prettier than an XR2, R5 Turbo especially the red over grey, complete with a turbo boost gauge! No doubt most of them have since disolved.
I had the later 1.4 Rover Metro GSI that was very fast but i cant imagine how quick it would have been if it had a turbo that would be frightening lol
In the early 90's my best mate bought a 85 Turbo in light blue, absolute dog but we thought we were the boys in that!
@@cornishrider Moonraker Blue, was the official colour
we had 2 white ones (both got nicked) the handling was simply insane
@@snakeplissken5480 Awesome Snake, BTW your next movie should be called Escape from Oz 🤣 as you know what's happening down under
I believe that this engine was also used in the Jaguar XJ220 supercar. Modified bij TWR.
Nice to see, that the Unipart Metro of Harri Toivonen is still around and in good nick.
Ah its good to be 55 years young lol THANK YOU for the very informative video mate its metro magic love it Cheers
I liked this buddy. My first car back in 92 was a B reg metro. All I wanted was a 6r4 body kit and have it all printed racing green. 😬
I remember seeing one flying down the M1 in 1986, beautiful.
Top work and thank you, I was lucky enough to have a trip out in a non works car and boy was it loud! Keep producing these great videos :)
Glad you enjoyed it Alan, thank you!
That's an amazing piece, great info. Can't believe it was found in a US casino. The death of Group B killed it like the rest of the type, can remember seeing the pictures of the unsold ones at the factory after that no one wanted, same with the RS200. Putting it and a normal Metro side by side is a laugh, they look so different. Can remember a couple of guys buying the body kits for the standard car, just didn't look right.
The casino this came from has a car museum in the top floor I went about 10 years ago there's an rs200 there its the 1st one I've seen in real life. I was shocked as it was all American muscle cars with an rs200 in amongst them.
I went to the museum/showroom that car was in in my early teen years. It was there along with a Lancia 037, and a Ford RS200. It was an absolutely brilliant place to visit, but sadly the car showrooms/museum closed in 2017.
Thank you Jack, a really nicely presented video that was very enjoyable to watch.
That’s great, thank you!!
I've been lucky enough to see the group B cars in action when we used to follow the RAC the noise and atmosphere in the forest first the whistles then the roar pops and bangs epic.......The Winning Streak was a mini series that featured the 6R4 starring Colin from east enders I think !
I remember these racing when I was a kid. What a Beast 👍🏻
What brilliant content, well done!
Great video Jack, big respect for the 6r4.... But can we get a better look at the Bastos TWR Vitesse? See if you can work your charm on the Saunders collection for a 3rd time.
I’m sure that should be possible..
Epic motor! Please do a video on that sd1 🙏
That was excellent. Thank you from an old rally fan.
Thank you for watching!!
Great video Jack, whilst slightly too young to remember them that well, they’ve always been my favourite rally car, even behind a Delta S4. I suspect this one could have been a good 20 minutes longer! 👍
Thanks for another informative video Jack👍. My first car was a red 1982 metro. I drove it like it was a 6R4....🤪. Looking forward to you next video.
Great video..well presented. Dying to know what else is in that “shed” under the covers !
Brilliant cameo....thanks!
Always loved these, every more so after I got the Metro Scalextric for Christmas 😁 cracking vid, very interesting 👍
I was waiting for you to mention the metro wing mirrors are what Lotus applied to the Elise/Exige S2
Thanks Jack an extremely interesting video, I'm an UR quattro anorak but found this very compelling, mind you my first company car was a 94 Metro...
Thanks for watching chap!
Great content ! I would really recommend getting sponsorship and a Patreon account to help fund the channel. All the full time TH-camrs I watch have one or both of these. I don’t see any loss of integrity, it’s just the best way to build a channel .
Hey Nick! Thanks, I will look into it though it’s now possible to just do the same thing through YT I think with a channel membership type thing. The thing is I’d then have to try and produce extra content for members and I just don’t have time right now!
I thought I recalled seeing this one at the Imperial Palace collection in Las Vegas around 2011? The hotel had been rebranded by the time I returned in 2013.
There were some very interesting European models in there. 2 I remember the most being an XJ220 which obviously shared the same engine, and lancia LC2 that competed at Lemans in the 80s.
I think there is atleast another Metro 6R4 converted to left hand drive. It was Didier Auriol's car for the end of the 1986 french asphalt rally championship (I think you used a picture of it in the video actually). Anyway, great video about the Metro 6R4!
What a great video. I'm loving the group b content.... Need to see an RS200 video and one on Toyota's MR2 project! Great fun