The only machine you need | Dragonhawk Mast Fold Pro Review and Unboxing

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  • dragonhawkoffi...
    Use promo code "tortugaph15" for 15% off and for a limited time get 2 random boxes of needles for free as well.
    I wanted a way to thank my community for all the support, so I was able to get an exclusive deal with dragonhawk for the channel. The old code was only 10% off but I negotiated making it 15% off. Not only that we will soon have giveaway event sponsored by the companies featured on the videos.
    The Mast Fold Pro is a long awaited machine to be featured on this channel. Sorry it took so long but it's finally here. The wait was long but boy was it worth it. I went into this unboxing without any research on the machine so I was really surprised with the new battery pack. It is a welcome change to be honest. It makes the value of the machine even more worth while because of it's many upgrades. If you compare it with the older mast fold, it's basically the mast fold with a custom wireless battery but with better performance. I have used the machine a few more times after recording this video and it keeps making me want to rank this higher and higher in the dragonhawk rankings. I will probably be doing a banger video with the dragonhawk top machines for 2023 really soon.

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  • @TortugaPH
    @TortugaPH  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am giving away a mast archer. Deadline for joining is December 7 2023. Goodluck everyone. th-cam.com/video/dtWhsU_IpWc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fiNkX85ZCsEO9Onw

  • @deejaysenol336
    @deejaysenol336 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First of all, I would like to thank you for this useful video. I have a question. Which do you think is better, Dragonhawk Mast Fold Pro or Bronch V12? As someone who reviews both machines.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The v12 is awesome as well. It's battery life is better. It is much heavier thou. The fold is really really good at shading thou. Black works and realism artists love it. Also some fine line people too.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Btw I'm giving away a mast archer. Checkout the 4 years later video on it.

  • @x_z0mb1_x
    @x_z0mb1_x ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's quiet when it doesn't have a cartridge because the drive pin is not engaged into the flywheel /motor because this machine relys on the cartridge membrane to provide the tension a stay up spring would

  • @tonydavey9084
    @tonydavey9084 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do i need to oil the machine at all

  • @whyymira5395
    @whyymira5395 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi could you please explain how to wrap/clean this machine? i have trouble understanding if the grip is removable or not

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's removable then you can clave grip and uv oven the whole pen

  • @michelacapaccioli2526
    @michelacapaccioli2526 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi! in addition to the stroke, is it possible to adjust the length of the needle?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup It can. Most machines can do that.

  • @dman622TV
    @dman622TV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m curious how you sterilize this machine? I’m looking to buy it to start practicing but would like to have the possibility to use it on real skin but cannot find anywhere about how you take it apart and sterilize this machine

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will start making disassembly vids soon. But you just remove the grip and throw that in the sterilizer

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can put the whole machine in a uv over too. And of course properly wrap the machine.

  • @TeddyDub17
    @TeddyDub17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mast fold pro or mast flip?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm flip pro over fold pro but fold pro over flip.

  • @marktraquina1502
    @marktraquina1502 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Once you wore out both stroke wheel, is there any chance that you can buy one again?

  • @crushingization
    @crushingization ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They just started selling the battery separately

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      good to know its a good pen but lacks battery life would definitely recommend if they sell packs as bundle

  • @vasomamatsiou1123
    @vasomamatsiou1123 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just ordered this 4 days ago! Looking to slowly put together what i need to start learning as a complete beginner. I was anxious to see if it is a good machine or not so i really appreciate your review and now i am excited, waiting for it to arrive 😊

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice bro. It's definitely a good machine. I really like it.

    • @valeriksart47
      @valeriksart47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mine took 18 days. Just recieved it yesterday. We both are on the same path as a complete beginner

    • @vasomamatsiou1123
      @vasomamatsiou1123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@valeriksart47 mine came few days ago , but im still waiting for the catridges ....

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vasomamatsiou1123 that's odd that the carts didn't arrive with the machine.

    • @alfonsohernandez2884
      @alfonsohernandez2884 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me aswell

  • @campingadventures101withth4
    @campingadventures101withth4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have heard people are having problems with the buttons breaking?Are they durable?

  • @SAWmacaco
    @SAWmacaco ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The boss cheap machine, to me, my only one

  • @samdenningmedia
    @samdenningmedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m doing mostly traditional and line work, so I want the harder hit of a 4.2 stroke. I am comparing the Archer Max 4.2 with the Fold Pro. Will the Fold Pro (or even Flip Pro) perform as well as the Archer Max 4.2 at lining/packing? If they perform equally at the higher stroke setting,I would buy a Fold Pro for the stroke adjustability. Willing to spend more unless the Archer Max is a better liner.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Flip pro or archer max is better for trad stuff. But I'd say archer max

  • @Bounta-un4cb
    @Bounta-un4cb ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This machine is dog water. This has got to be the softest hitting machine I have ever used. The only strokes that change anything is 4.2 and 2.4. at least on my unit. To add to the fact my cam already failed. At about 15 hours of tattoo time. The racer and the X7 are still going strong.

    • @lucasbottinha
      @lucasbottinha ปีที่แล้ว

      Do u recommend it for a beginner?

    • @Bounta-un4cb
      @Bounta-un4cb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lucasbottinha no! 15vhours in and the cam failed. Dragonhawk told me I can purchase a new cam, but only 15 hours into a machina and the cam fails is a definite no for me.

    • @cherrybomb3713
      @cherrybomb3713 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your favorite machine? I got this machine about 2 months ago and it does seem to be really soft... I was sold on the adjustablilty but haven't tried any other pens. I was looking at the bronc v12 or the racer. How's the racer treating you?

    • @uncoiledfish2561
      @uncoiledfish2561 ปีที่แล้ว

      They've paid a bunch of small TH-camrs to do videos like theses. Where they don't tell people what they're really like. It's a really cheap machine. Of course it's a piece of shit haha.

    • @jurijavsenak
      @jurijavsenak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does it mean it's soft?

  • @11BRelo
    @11BRelo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just looking at this! And was seriously considering getting it. I as well am a complete beginner..well I don’t know if you can call it that. Definitely want to start tattooing just need the equipment. I have the time being a 100% disabled Vet so it’s just school and my family and needed something to learn and possibly make another career out of since I’m not working currently. And oddly feel like it will be very therapeutic as well

  • @UpYours011
    @UpYours011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you hit the power button 4 to 5 times instead of holding it you get a lightning bolt on your screen, what does this mean?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's the jump start feature. It's normally better for coreless motors.jump start is when the machine starts at a higher rpm or voltage then drops down to your last used voltage.

    • @UpYours011
      @UpYours011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TortugaPH thank you for the quick reply.

  • @corylara8081
    @corylara8081 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had the machine for a few months now, I love it but the battery life is dookie, I get maybe 3-4 hours out of it, reminds me of the shorty battery for the bishop wands, if they could make a 2000mah slightly larger battery for it that lasts 6-8hrs+, that would be awesome. its a good enough machine that they should make it a modular line, batteries, grips, disposable grips etc.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At what voltage are you running it? I use it at 6-7 volts and it lasts me atleast over 5 hours. I wish they sold them with 2 packs so you could switch between the two.

    • @valeriksart47
      @valeriksart47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@TortugaPH I saw sir audz TV here in YT... He got this unit with 2 batteries. I guess they no longer sell it with 2 packs of battery

    • @corylara8081
      @corylara8081 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TortugaPH I run it around 8.5-9 volts for lining. I drop it to 7-8 volts shading. Might just be the amazon version, I got it when they were sold out on the official dragonhawk website, Getting the mast archer 4.2mm, I run a 4.0mm FK irons EXO as my daily driver and honestly the Fold Pro, Ambitions Soldier and mast tour pro are just as good if not better.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corylara8081 i agree the battery pack is pretty bad on this but pen performs well. used it a few more times and it drains after 5 hours they should sell this as a bundle with a spare pack

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@valeriksart47 yeah been getting messages saying they sell packs for this. kinda wish they did a bundle where it comes out cheaper if you get the spare battery along with the machine rather than separate.

  • @Shekhireva
    @Shekhireva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for this video !

  • @dantedeveracuyana9168
    @dantedeveracuyana9168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope I'll will have that machine soon what a nice pen ❤

  • @tamshari9212
    @tamshari9212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yuuuup🎉🎉

  • @statesOFflux
    @statesOFflux ปีที่แล้ว

    needles stick out the cartridge while on standby

  • @LilzHae
    @LilzHae ปีที่แล้ว

    How much was that?

  • @Staysilentobsearve
    @Staysilentobsearve ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice ! I just got my mast flip 2 weeks ago now I got my eyes on the fold , I’m new to tattoo but loving it , I have art background so that’s helping, if things work out tattooing for me I will need a second machine so the fold it will be , I did three practice skins already and made 4 tattoos on my self , will continue wAtching ur videos my brother it’s been a big help

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Is your flip the pro version?

    • @Staysilentobsearve
      @Staysilentobsearve ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TortugaPH no the first flip , my only issue with it is how hard the ajustements are to turn

    • @chrisyyd4776
      @chrisyyd4776 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TortugaPHHowcome you ask?

  • @cherrybomb3713
    @cherrybomb3713 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stuck between this and the flip. Looking for adjustable stroke. Going from a coil machine. What fo you think?

  • @janikumlander1822
    @janikumlander1822 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im thinking to buy this or Ava ep10 but dont know.. have you used ava ep10?

  • @alfonsohernandez2884
    @alfonsohernandez2884 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered this just waiting to it to come in can any cartridge fit on it or just the ones that say fold pro cartridges

  • @priyankasharma8109
    @priyankasharma8109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I've been thinking of getting one of these but can't find their authentic site, they have like 3 sites with different domain names, can you tell me which ones are authentic?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      The on linked on the description

  • @thatkush7625
    @thatkush7625 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered a machine off that site and only got a battery no machine made me waste $300!

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone messaged me on IG asking me about this. Turns they have so many orders of this machine that they're sending the battery ahead of the machine. I think it's pretty dumb that they do that thou.

  • @Norzm
    @Norzm ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, i see the core only have 6000RPM, maybe its a bit low for lines?

  • @haykmartirosyan2986
    @haykmartirosyan2986 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey bro can u do with this Machine stripple shading?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can do stippling

  • @photographercanaryislands8553
    @photographercanaryislands8553 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I apply the promo code?
    I tried various ways and not working to me.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just type tortugaph15

  • @danielkepinski688
    @danielkepinski688 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is it for something like a 27 mag? I like doing black work 😁

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      A higher stroke pen would be better. Like the mast max.

  • @beingAsAnOcean40
    @beingAsAnOcean40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought one today. Can't wait to use it.

    • @MikeyFreed
      @MikeyFreed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do a updated bro how was it

  • @thaniitabetba
    @thaniitabetba ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a beginner, I can't decide between this one and the Ambition soldier... which one you recommend ? thanks a lot and great video

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adjustable stroke machines are the way. Either the flip or fold pro

  • @AlexandrosNikolakis
    @AlexandrosNikolakis ปีที่แล้ว

    hi there!I have one too.What voltage do you use it for lining?I usee to ru it at 8.3 but i have seen that on reel skin it tears it...On human skin though i didnt have any problem...any ideas?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      I only line with 8volts for bigger needle groups. 7 for 1-7rl slow hand speed.

    • @AlexandrosNikolakis
      @AlexandrosNikolakis ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you for your reply!Maybe you can help me a little bit woth one problem i have seen.Yesterday i was practicing again on reel skin. I had my stroke on 4.2 mm( dragonhawk fold pro) and used a 3 rl to make the lines . I noticed that the reel skin (if i stretch it) looked liked having cuts on the lines i made(not through cuts)...Is this normal?Then i tried to lower the voltage from 8v to 7, 6 and even 5 volts and at 4.7 volts was ok.But isn't this too low?

  • @jeijayp7119
    @jeijayp7119 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you try the cnc p6 and mast racer as all arounder machince like bishop packer?

  • @shokew2241
    @shokew2241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this, Lancer or fold pro for budget starter??

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      archer 4.2mm

  • @nathaliabriellemacatangay5961
    @nathaliabriellemacatangay5961 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi new sub here., i was watching your videos and now i am confuse about which one to buy., i am a beginner and really wants to buy a good one, i just want to ask if which is better the fold pro or the mast archer? I hope you can answer my question., thanks a lot for a well reviewed videos and more power

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An adjustable stroke pen is good if you want to learn how to use different stroke settings. It's a more advanced machine but more useful for learning. The mast archer with a fixed stroke at 3.5 is a good beginner machine as well. 3.5 is kinda the best all around stroke. If I were you I'd start with a regular mast flip.

    • @nathaliabriellemacatangay5961
      @nathaliabriellemacatangay5961 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TortugaPH thank you so much for your suggestions ♥️♥️♥️

  • @koikoi3808
    @koikoi3808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this machine have a problem with overheating like other Dragonhawks? I just had my second machine overheat and die on me. I like to run my liners around the 8-9v range but they can't handle the voltage for too long before they overheat and just die, which happened with my Mast Zion, which is advertised to run at a start of 9v. Looking for an honest answer, I know this is a sponsored video but I can't afford to have to spend $200+ every month when my machines die on me.
    And is there anything I can do to prevent this and still run the voltages I prefer? I didn't think 8-9v was too much for my machines but I guess they can't handle my smoke. 😂

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure it can handle the voltage but will probably drain pretty fast. Max 4 hours. The battery in this machine isn't that great. You'll be better off with a fixed stroke pen or a pen with a strong battery. Examples are mast archers and the mast flip pro. Those can run high volts and have long lasting batteries. Just a tip when it comes to batteries. It's best not to completely drain them although I always do. Also don't over charge the meaning try not to leave it charging overnight.

    • @koikoi3808
      @koikoi3808 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TortugaPH Hey thanks for the response. I did order one anyways because it has the ability to use an RCA cable but I'll probably use it as a backup machine more. I was looking at the archers and I had the chance to borrow one from a fellow artist and it did actually hold up pretty well so I'm gonna grab one of those eventually as well.

    • @craigellis9183
      @craigellis9183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know, I had my eye on this. I normally only use the high $$ machines & I run my lines at 12v & shading 10v so I’m sure I’d get like an hr out of battery lol

  • @mapa_exploring
    @mapa_exploring ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, informational vids thnks! Is there any way its fair to compare the X7 and this Fold Pro? Or can I assume these are complete different machines for a beginner? Thanks in advance.. Greetings from the netherlands

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're diffeent my x7 video is flawed I must admit. Its actually better than I thought but I still like the fold pro more imo.

  • @ELY3M
    @ELY3M ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been considering about getting this machine. Thank you for the discount code.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem I think they have a package now that comes with a spare battery. Which is the weak point of the machine. I like it alot don't get me wrong just needs more batt or spare batt.

    • @ELY3M
      @ELY3M ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TortugaPH I have a couple questions for you. Do you remember how was the machine shipped to you? via USPS Shipping? or UPS Shipping? How long do you have to wait for it to arrive? Thank you :)

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ELY3M I'm from the Philippines so the shipping company is different.

  • @Savethepandabears
    @Savethepandabears ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing a lot of bunk crooked ass lines😅

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes lines on a shading piece. 👍

  • @NarcisoCuellar
    @NarcisoCuellar ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand cartridges do you use?

  • @yazbekrodrigo
    @yazbekrodrigo ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the extra battery necesseraly need to be the same?

  • @siraudzvlog4533
    @siraudzvlog4533 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got one

  • @c172inthesky
    @c172inthesky ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey what do you think. I am looking to start out and cant decide between fold pro, flip pro, x7, and racer. Does adjustable stroke really matter over having something thats 3.5 mm stroke like x7? From what ive read 3.5 is very versatile but dont know because I dont have hands on experience. Also, is brushless worth it over coreless? Thanks for your time.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd get either flip pro or fold pro then re invest into a steady stroke machine 9nce you find your ideal stroke. You probably end up with a few down the line specific for each need. Be it stronger lining or soft shading.

    • @tomaskiii1017
      @tomaskiii1017 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      as an experience artist i suggest the fold pro

    • @leecedrickjamond651
      @leecedrickjamond651 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@tomaskiii1017 THANKS A LOT !!!!!!!

  • @TreJohnson561
    @TreJohnson561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it hit hard for lining? Have you tried any discover device machines?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's good for lining. Nope I haven't if you could link it to me on my ig il take a look at them.

  • @valeriksart47
    @valeriksart47 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha i should have waited a bit for your review. I ordered it few days ago with your 10%

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people having problems using the 15 I'm gonna check on it soon

  • @AlexandrosNikolakis
    @AlexandrosNikolakis ปีที่แล้ว

    i am thinking of getting one too.❤

  • @Daltonian18
    @Daltonian18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you prefer this or the Flip pro? The low battery on this seems kind of annoying

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the kind of work. Build wise I do like fold more. The flip has more power thou and a better battery

    • @Dropsen1
      @Dropsen1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TortugaPH for mandalas (with some linings) and dotwork 4 or 4.2 stroke is better than 3.5, right? because i am thinking about getting mast lancer with stable 4.2 stroke instead of fold pro because fold pro has worse battery.

  • @DeathRealmTattoo
    @DeathRealmTattoo ปีที่แล้ว

    How long did it take to get to you? I ordered mine a week ago and my order still just says “processing.” Really want to give it a go!

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Depending on the country I guess 2 weeks. They express deliver stuff to me cause I'm near china and a TH-camr.

    • @NarcisoCuellar
      @NarcisoCuellar ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, have you gotten yours yet?

  • @dasmany
    @dasmany ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey discount code is not valid, can we expect new anytime soon?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really it should be working got 3 notifs today

    • @dasmany
      @dasmany ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TortugaPH just checked twice, it doesn’t work

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you used the code before? Thanks for the info I can inform the company about it.

    • @dasmany
      @dasmany ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TortugaPH maybe I tried the code but haven’t bought anything earlier

  • @johnalbertlao6868
    @johnalbertlao6868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where to buy this product?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      Link in the description

  • @spakatron
    @spakatron ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it change the stroke or just needle depth ?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both can be adjusted

    • @spakatron
      @spakatron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TortugaPH nice one mate…thank you ✌️

  • @kquawanmoore8068
    @kquawanmoore8068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discount Code not working 😢

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tortugaph15 it should work

    • @kquawanmoore8068
      @kquawanmoore8068 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, same code in the video description no luck

  • @NarcisoCuellar
    @NarcisoCuellar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered mine, thank you so much for the code btw! You just got a new subscriber 🙌🏼

  • @sicoart61
    @sicoart61 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your channel, can you tell me the recent machines you've reviewed, which line works best.? Because I do Asian and Japanese works, I will wait for your reply. Thank you.

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I liked the fold pro best among the recent ones. For lining and everything. I also like the mast sensor which is about 4 months old but really good machine

    • @sicoart61
      @sicoart61 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woo..I'm surprised, you answered my question very quickly, These days I have a headache so I have 2 brands: Xnet, ambition, ..But don't know how..? What do you think about the above 2 brands?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sicoart61 I only used ambition before it's okay but I ref dh or bronc

    • @sicoart61
      @sicoart61 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much, wish you a lot of health.!

  • @rtheam
    @rtheam ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you prefer the fold pro or the racer?

    • @TortugaPH
      @TortugaPH  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends what I'm doing but overall maybe the racer

    • @rtheam
      @rtheam ปีที่แล้ว

      @TortugaPH just an all rounder really but one that has enough hit to punch out some larger lines. I'm a little worried that my shading won't be so smooth with 4mm stroke on the racer.

    • @tomaskiii1017
      @tomaskiii1017 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was torn between the racer and fold pro. but ending buying the fold pro, way versatile at any stroke. 3.7 , 3.4 sumthing would soften the shade more