Comments below are selected parts of script of Dr. John Caputo's 5 5 19 Sermon WEAKNESS OF GOD as corrected from Google automatic translation by listening to video of sermon....several hours of work, but worth the effort! Selections are identified by time as marked in video. 05:21 We want to distinguish the divinity of true power from the profanity of mere force 05:23 The interesting thing about the New 05:25 Testament is that the portrait of divinity in 05:32 the New Testament is paradoxical because it 05:38 themetizes weakness. It themetizes the weakness of God 05:42 and the emphasis in the scripture if you 05:47 sort of make a 05:49 list of all of the bodies that are 05:52 mentioned in the New Testament and for 05:54 the most part they are a sorry lot, the lepers and the 05:56 laborers, the blind, 05:59 and the starving and the poor... and Jesus 06:03 announces his ministry in terms of them. 06:07 So this notion of weakness is a kind 06:12 of hallmark of Jesus. It's a 06:15 characteristically Jesus thing. and St. 06:18 Paul uses the expression in First 06:20 Corinthians 1 about the weakness of God 06:24 which is greater than the strength of 06:26 human beings. He says, "for the foolishness 06:30 of God ..for the foolishness of God is 07:10 wiser than human wisdom and the weakness 07:13 of God is stronger than human strength. 07:15 but God chose what is weak in the 07:17 world to shame the strong. God chose what is 07:19 low and despised in the world, things that 07:22 are not... to reduce to nothing the 07:27 things that are."
So what's the qualitative difference 14:00 made by Jesus? Unlike ...and what 14:06 Paul was saying to the Corinthians who would have been dumbfounded by what he said... 14:10 unlike standard-form heroes in antiquity, 14:14 Jesus doesn't crush his enemies with his 14:17 might or lead the mighty army to victory. But the Christian 14:53 claim is This is an image...this is an intuition 14:57 of the Divine. Paul said if Jesus is the 15:02 distinctive way the invisible God is 15:05 made visible, then the God that's 15:10 revealed in the New Testament reverses 15:13 our expectations... 15:18 about everything we thought God was supposed 15:20 to be...and about everything that Greek 15:21 philosophers thought God was supposed to 15:23 be. Not a God of sovereign power but a 15:28 God of weaknesss where the weakness of God 15:32 is stronger than the power of men. Paul being 16:12 struck on the way to Damascus... probably the story of a 16:16 period of prayer and meditation over a long 16:19 period of time... and it hit him...that the divinity of God 16:26 was not defeated by the ignominious 16:30 death but revealed. The divinity of God wasn't CONcealed 16:33 by the crucifixion it was REvealed by it. 16:36 So, if you want to see what God is like 16:40 and that Jesus is the icon, then get 16:44 ready to be turned upside down!
So the Gospels point to this 07:31 really interesting picture of 07:33 Jesus of the Gospels as full of some of these amazing 07:36 reversals. So that the kingdom of God 07:39 looks like Alice in Wonderland: It's topsy 07:43 turvy. it's a kind of divine topsy-turvy. 07:45 Luther said when he was commenting on 07:48 this that God has revealed a new 07:51 testament under the opposite form so 07:54 "sub contraria facies" ...under an opposite look, 07:58 so when you see down, it's up; when you see up, it's down... 08:02 under the appearance of the opposite... 08:04 what's foolish is wise; and what's weak is 08:07 strong. And that was Jesus' ministry. His ministry 08:11 was to the poor and the imprisoned. he announces 08:15 his ministry by quoting Isaiah 08:17 I'm here to bring good news to the poor, visit 08:20 those in prison, feed the hungry So the Gospels point to this 07:31 really interesting picture of 07:33 Jesus of the Gospels as full of some of these amazing 07:36 reversals. So that the kingdom of God 07:39 looks like Alice in Wonderland: It's topsy 07:43 turvy. it's a kind of divine topsy-turvy. 07:45 Luther said when he was commenting on 07:48 this that God has revealed a new 07:51 testament under the opposite form so 07:54 "sub contraria facies" ... under an opposite look, 07:58 so when you see down, it's up; when you see up, it's down... 08:02 under the appearance of the opposite... 08:04 what's foolish is wise; and what's weak is 08:07 strong. And that was Jesus' ministry. His ministry 08:11 was to the poor and the imprisoned. he announces 08:15 his ministry by quoting Isaiah 08:17 I'm here to bring good news to the poor, visit 08:20 those in prison, feed the hungry
Now 11:24 Christians are not just saying that 11:28 Jesus was a great man, a courageous truth 11:33 teller and the martyr from speaking 11:38 truth to power. If that's what he was, we 11:43 already had Socrates and we had other 11:49 heroes from antiquity. But this uniquely 11:55 Christian thing... is to say that, quite apart 12:00 from his human qualities, there's something 12:03 qualitively different about Jesus... the 12:09 qualitative difference between the human 12:11 and the divine. the Christian claim is, 12:16 in Jesus we are given an 12:22 intuition of the divine. 12:30 Jesus is the icon of God. 12:35 he's the icon of the invisible God 12:37 Now an icon is not 12:41 an idol. with an idol, our gaze gets 12:46 only as far as the dazzle of the 12:49 sensible thing. it's beauty, its ______ 12:52 and we are stopped short by its sparkle. 12:55 we luxuriate in its splendor. 13:00 But Jesus...the portrait of Jesus in the 13:04 gospel is not of something of beauty 13:06 and splendor; it was ugly. the passion story 13:12 is a story of ugliness, abjection, 13:16 rejection and abandonment. So this icon has no 13:26 splendor to distract us... 13:28 nothing, nothing of glamour to bedazzle us. Our 13:32 gaze continues past the icon to what the 13:36 icon is imaging. ... to what the figure of 13:44 Jesus incarnates or announces.
Comments below are selected parts of script of Dr. John Caputo's 5 5 19 Sermon WEAKNESS OF GOD as corrected from Google automatic translation by listening to video of sermon....several hours of work, but worth the effort! Selections are identified by time as marked in video.
05:21
We want to distinguish the divinity of true power from the profanity of mere force
05:23
The interesting thing about the New
05:25
Testament is that the portrait of divinity in
05:32
the New Testament is paradoxical because it
05:38
themetizes weakness. It themetizes the weakness of God
05:42
and the emphasis in the scripture if you
05:47
sort of make a
05:49
list of all of the bodies that are
05:52
mentioned in the New Testament and for
05:54
the most part they are a sorry lot, the lepers and the
05:56
laborers, the blind,
05:59
and the starving and the poor... and Jesus
06:03
announces his ministry in terms of them.
06:07
So this notion of weakness is a kind
06:12
of hallmark of Jesus. It's a
06:15
characteristically Jesus thing. and St.
06:18
Paul uses the expression in First
06:20
Corinthians 1 about the weakness of God
06:24
which is greater than the strength of
06:26
human beings. He says, "for the foolishness
06:30
of God ..for the foolishness of God is
07:10
wiser than human wisdom and the weakness
07:13
of God is stronger than human strength.
07:15
but God chose what is weak in the
07:17
world to shame the strong. God chose what is
07:19
low and despised in the world, things that
07:22
are not... to reduce to nothing the
07:27
things that are."
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So what's the qualitative difference
14:00
made by Jesus? Unlike ...and what
14:06
Paul was saying to the Corinthians who would have been dumbfounded by what he said...
14:10
unlike standard-form heroes in antiquity,
14:14
Jesus doesn't crush his enemies with his
14:17
might or lead the mighty army to victory.
But the Christian
14:53
claim is This is an image...this is an intuition
14:57
of the Divine. Paul said if Jesus is the
15:02
distinctive way the invisible God is
15:05
made visible, then the God that's
15:10
revealed in the New Testament reverses
15:13
our expectations...
15:18
about everything we thought God was supposed
15:20
to be...and about everything that Greek
15:21
philosophers thought God was supposed to
15:23
be. Not a God of sovereign power but a
15:28
God of weaknesss where the weakness of God
15:32
is stronger than the power of men.
Paul being
16:12
struck on the way to Damascus... probably the story of a
16:16
period of prayer and meditation over a long
16:19
period of time... and it hit him...that the divinity of God
16:26
was not defeated by the ignominious
16:30
death but revealed. The divinity of God wasn't CONcealed
16:33
by the crucifixion it was REvealed by it.
16:36
So, if you want to see what God is like
16:40
and that Jesus is the icon, then get
16:44
ready to be turned upside down!
So the Gospels point to this
07:31
really interesting picture of
07:33
Jesus of the Gospels as full of some of these amazing
07:36
reversals. So that the kingdom of God
07:39
looks like Alice in Wonderland: It's topsy
07:43
turvy. it's a kind of divine topsy-turvy.
07:45
Luther said when he was commenting on
07:48
this that God has revealed a new
07:51
testament under the opposite form so
07:54
"sub contraria facies" ...under an opposite look,
07:58
so when you see down, it's up; when you see up, it's down...
08:02
under the appearance of the opposite...
08:04
what's foolish is wise; and what's weak is
08:07
strong. And that was Jesus' ministry. His ministry
08:11
was to the poor and the imprisoned. he announces
08:15
his ministry by quoting Isaiah
08:17
I'm here to bring good news to the poor, visit
08:20
those in prison, feed the hungry
So the Gospels point to this
07:31
really interesting picture of
07:33
Jesus of the Gospels as full of some of these amazing
07:36
reversals. So that the kingdom of God
07:39
looks like Alice in Wonderland: It's topsy
07:43
turvy. it's a kind of divine topsy-turvy.
07:45
Luther said when he was commenting on
07:48
this that God has revealed a new
07:51
testament under the opposite form so
07:54
"sub contraria facies" ... under an opposite look,
07:58
so when you see down, it's up; when you see up, it's down...
08:02
under the appearance of the opposite...
08:04
what's foolish is wise; and what's weak is
08:07
strong. And that was Jesus' ministry. His ministry
08:11
was to the poor and the imprisoned. he announces
08:15
his ministry by quoting Isaiah
08:17
I'm here to bring good news to the poor, visit
08:20
those in prison, feed the hungry
Now
11:24
Christians are not just saying that
11:28
Jesus was a great man, a courageous truth
11:33
teller and the martyr from speaking
11:38
truth to power. If that's what he was, we
11:43
already had Socrates and we had other
11:49
heroes from antiquity. But this uniquely
11:55
Christian thing... is to say that, quite apart
12:00
from his human qualities, there's something
12:03
qualitively different about Jesus... the
12:09
qualitative difference between the human
12:11
and the divine. the Christian claim is,
12:16
in Jesus we are given an
12:22
intuition of the divine.
12:30
Jesus is the icon of God.
12:35
he's the icon of the invisible God
12:37
Now an icon is not
12:41
an idol. with an idol, our gaze gets
12:46
only as far as the dazzle of the
12:49
sensible thing. it's beauty, its ______
12:52
and we are stopped short by its sparkle.
12:55
we luxuriate in its splendor.
13:00
But Jesus...the portrait of Jesus in the
13:04
gospel is not of something of beauty
13:06
and splendor; it was ugly. the passion story
13:12
is a story of ugliness, abjection,
13:16
rejection and abandonment. So this icon has no
13:26
splendor to distract us...
13:28
nothing, nothing of glamour to bedazzle us. Our
13:32
gaze continues past the icon to what the
13:36
icon is imaging. ... to what the figure of
13:44
Jesus incarnates or announces.