Totally agree. How great at man was he at the end of the season when he didn't play one game? Then John says you can't resign Iffy because he's hurt all the time.
I don't you can count freak injuries. A broken jaw is something completely different from being dinged up and missing 1 or 2 games here, then missing another 1 or 2 later in the season
@ He can't last the season because he's old. You didn't watch the playoff game, the left side of the offensive line sucked because they are over 30 years old and were tired. Old = tired at the end of the season kiddo.
He's getting paid this off-season. I expect Holmes to extend him and Hutch. Jamo is due but because he was a first round pick the team can pick up his fifth year option so they can stand pat on him.
@Quahogstacker Kerby might love working with Glenn but I think he loves his DB brothers more, but anyway forget what Glenn wants Brad Holmes will NOT allow his league Interception leader to leave off of the year he just had Brad will franchise tag him at the very least. The ONLY way Brad Holmes gives up Kerby to Glenn is if Glenn is willing to trade Sauce Gardener, Garrett Wilson, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Will Mcdonald, Quincy Williams, and Quinnen Williams 😂
Davis: Yes Onwuzurike: Maybe Zeitler: Yes Patrick: Yes or maybe Barnes: Yes Iffy: Yes Davenport: No Skipper: Yes (he should retire with us) Dorsey: Maybe Vildor: No (but i do commend him for his playing) Muhammed: Yes Bridewater: No (personally think he'll be a coach for us at some point) Idk about Z'Darius he isn't bad by any means but he's getting older and is a bit pricey, I'd honestly consider using him for trading material And I've been hearing talk about Kerby leaving too, 1. I don't believe that, he loves this team and his DB brothers and 2. Brad Holmes is NOT letting him go after leading the league in Interceptions, he's franchise tagged at the very least.
Levi, Iffy, Davenport, Muhammad, Z'Darius & Vildor will be gone for sure. Either can't stay healthy, overpriced or just plain stink. Barnes, Skipper & Patrick will def be back and Zietler will stay if he doesn't retire (but they still need more OL help in this upcoming draft to eventually replace Ragnow & possibly Decker) The only 2 main positions they need to attack this offseason is DE & DT. Don't be surprised if DJ Reader gets cut too after his underwhelming season.
@jaysonb.6669 Iffy is the only one on there i will really defend, he's a dog but he had a down year he's a great rotational Safety for when one of our CBs get injured (and they always inevitably do) and Branch takes their place. Levi is better than people give him credit and he will more than likely comeback because of Alim's injury, he might not be healed by the time next season starts. And Muhammed although never the plan as a starter did step up this year. D.J. Reader was never that flashy to me in the first place, but I think he's a key piece of that line.
You have to assume some of the FA's on defense will get some interest from AG and the Jets. Same goes on the offensive side of the ball for BJ and the Bears. You see guys like this move with coaches all the time. Example for us was Anzalone coming over with Campbell and Glenn.
Davis gets hurt too much. That as much as the money he wanted helped facilitate his move out of Tampa. I say leave Robertson outside and go with Rakestraw as the nickel. As for the rest, I would like to see Patrick come back. He won't cost a bunch and he stayed healthy this season. The guy is big-bodied receiver who runs good routes, hangs onto the ball, and isn't afraid to block in the run game. Dorsey is a special team guy who should be cheap enough. Hard no on Davenport, Onwuzurike, Iffy, and of course Moseley, Badgley, and Vildor. Maybe bring Cominsky back for the right price and I'd prefer they hang onto Hooker and say adios to Teddy. Zeitler can stick around if he's willing to do a one-year deal with a team option for year two. He wasn't as gassed at the end of the season as Glasgow or even Decker for that matter. That O-line needs attention in this draft. And for my swing big or stay home pipedream make another deal with the Browns, this time for Garrett. His cap hit isn't as high as a guy like Crosby who doesn't want to leave his team anyway and Garrett wants out of Cleveland. The team is trying to dump salary to make up for that ridiculous Watson trade and the Lions might be able to pry Garrett loose with a second and third. Hey, if you're going to dream, dream big. But they have got to fix that spot opposite Hutch, with a real player. Not some injury prone gamble or some guy past his prime.
they were signing guys off of other teams practice squads and activating them over Martin on game day. goes to show what the coaching staff thought of him plus Holmes traded up to grab him. bust
Our players went 15-2, we need to keep as many as possible! Skipper, Zietler, Davis, Z -Smith, T Patrick, Kerby, C. Reynolds, Barnes, Mohammad, even maybe give Iffy, Dorsey, Davenport & Mosley another chance for min pay. (Plus keep Hooker & make Bridgewater a player-coach)!
Jared Goff is way overpaid. Kirk Cousins is overpaid at 45 million per season and Tampa found the sweet spot with Baker Mayfield at 35 million per season.
WHY NOT GET HIGH DRAFT PICKS FOR GOFF TO REBUILD THE DEFENSE,WHY NOT SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN HOOKER,HE CANT DO WORSE THAN GOFF EVENIF WE DONT MAKE PLAYOFFS GOFF WAS BOUNCED OUT OF THE RUN TO A SUPERBOWL WHICH IS THE GOAL NOT JUST MAKING PLAYOFFS,I DONT SEE HOW THE FAN BASE STILL HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT GOFF WILL IMPROVE ENOUGH TO WIN THE BRIGHTEST GAME WITHOUT FAILURE SUPERBOWL 0 ZERO TDs NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME VS SF 1 TD ON A 4TH DOWN GARBAGE PLAY WITH A LOSS AND BOUNCED ,NFC DIVISION VS WASHINGTON 3 OR 4 TURNOVERS AND BOUNCED OUT I HATE GOFF IM SORRY
Caps lock doesn't make your dumb point any better. Defense being healthy has more to do with the Lions than the Lions needing to load up on defense. Say it with me till you puke, "It's an offensive passing league." So many Lions fans are acting silly because the Lions are new to the playoffs. Only ONE team's fan base gets to be happy at the end of the playoffs. ONE. This isn't college football with three dozen bowl wins to make people happy. Should the Ravens and Bills cut their QBs? Yes, it's possible to get worse at QB. You'd rather the Lions not make the playoffs.... wtf type fan is that?! Go be a Packers fan.
@@GulNadar Yes we could get worse at QB but we could have our own "Danils " too in Hooker ,I was a hater until the Seattle game he tricked out the haters and won us all over only to fall flat just like I envisioned who he was as a QB nothing but a Joey Harrington-esk clone on steroids nothing more ,the Rams won the trade sending us their trash.We are hamstrung the next 5 years under Jared Goff as he made sure we cant get rid of him like the Rams did he made sure he has a NO TRADE SO LIVE WITH HIM CHANT HIS NAME I WONT BE FOOLED AGAIN
@@lionking7599 Hendon needs a good preseason before I even pretend to think his really good college film translates. It's still crazy to be upset the Lions are not winning the way you like. Wanting style points, lmao.
Depending on how much he wants i like Tim Patrick. Dude has good size and good hands, grew chemistry with Goff.
Dorsey is an important guy because of his speed. He can match up with speed threats.
Carlton Davis is a great talent but he has a brutal injury record.
Exactly.
Totally agree. How great at man was he at the end of the season when he didn't play one game?
Then John says you can't resign Iffy because he's hurt all the time.
I don't you can count freak injuries. A broken jaw is something completely different from being dinged up and missing 1 or 2 games here, then missing another 1 or 2 later in the season
@ I totally understand your point. BUT he had injury history almost every year with Tampa.
Stunning Zeitler was a no from Jon. Was the best RG in football this year. Also no shot he signs a multi-year deal.
He'll be 36 and he pulled his hamstring on a routine play in week 18 and missed the playoffs because he was 35 this year.
@ hes 34. Missing 1 game doesn’t come close to proving any point you’re trying to make.
@ He can't last the season because he's old. You didn't watch the playoff game, the left side of the offensive line sucked because they are over 30 years old and were tired. Old = tired at the end of the season kiddo.
@@BigginsInAmerica This is why I want a C drafted at 28. Can play inside for this year alongside Ragnow
I want to keep Kerby
He isn’t a free agent
@ I know I have heard rumors of Glen wanting him, I also know he likes playing for glen
He's getting paid this off-season. I expect Holmes to extend him and Hutch. Jamo is due but because he was a first round pick the team can pick up his fifth year option so they can stand pat on him.
@Quahogstacker Kerby might love working with Glenn but I think he loves his DB brothers more, but anyway forget what Glenn wants Brad Holmes will NOT allow his league Interception leader to leave off of the year he just had Brad will franchise tag him at the very least. The ONLY way Brad Holmes gives up Kerby to Glenn is if Glenn is willing to trade Sauce Gardener, Garrett Wilson, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Will Mcdonald, Quincy Williams, and Quinnen Williams 😂
Davis: Yes
Onwuzurike: Maybe
Zeitler: Yes
Patrick: Yes or maybe
Barnes: Yes
Iffy: Yes
Davenport: No
Skipper: Yes (he should retire with us)
Dorsey: Maybe
Vildor: No (but i do commend him for his playing)
Muhammed: Yes
Bridewater: No (personally think he'll be a coach for us at some point)
Idk about Z'Darius he isn't bad by any means but he's getting older and is a bit pricey, I'd honestly consider using him for trading material
And I've been hearing talk about Kerby leaving too, 1. I don't believe that, he loves this team and his DB brothers and 2. Brad Holmes is NOT letting him go after leading the league in Interceptions, he's franchise tagged at the very least.
Levi, Iffy, Davenport, Muhammad, Z'Darius & Vildor will be gone for sure. Either can't stay healthy, overpriced or just plain stink. Barnes, Skipper & Patrick will def be back and Zietler will stay if he doesn't retire (but they still need more OL help in this upcoming draft to eventually replace Ragnow & possibly Decker) The only 2 main positions they need to attack this offseason is DE & DT. Don't be surprised if DJ Reader gets cut too after his underwhelming season.
@jaysonb.6669 Iffy is the only one on there i will really defend, he's a dog but he had a down year he's a great rotational Safety for when one of our CBs get injured (and they always inevitably do) and Branch takes their place. Levi is better than people give him credit and he will more than likely comeback because of Alim's injury, he might not be healed by the time next season starts. And Muhammed although never the plan as a starter did step up this year. D.J. Reader was never that flashy to me in the first place, but I think he's a key piece of that line.
Do we get comp pick if Davis signs big contract with other team?
If you can get TP back for a reasonably good price, it’s a no-brainer in my opinion to re-sign him
I'm hoping they can get TP back for one more year at less than 10-11 mil but i doubt it.
What about Craig Reynolds?
The 2021 Draft Class..... regardless of who has to go, you'll be missed.....
These guys don't appreciate some of these guys special teams contribution. Many of them are not going to cost much.
You have to assume some of the FA's on defense will get some interest from AG and the Jets. Same goes on the offensive side of the ball for BJ and the Bears. You see guys like this move with coaches all the time. Example for us was Anzalone coming over with Campbell and Glenn.
Davis never stays healthy, and he will command $15 a year. Gotta pass on that
Davis gets hurt too much. That as much as the money he wanted helped facilitate his move out of Tampa. I say leave Robertson outside and go with Rakestraw as the nickel. As for the rest, I would like to see Patrick come back. He won't cost a bunch and he stayed healthy this season. The guy is big-bodied receiver who runs good routes, hangs onto the ball, and isn't afraid to block in the run game. Dorsey is a special team guy who should be cheap enough. Hard no on Davenport, Onwuzurike, Iffy, and of course Moseley, Badgley, and Vildor. Maybe bring Cominsky back for the right price and I'd prefer they hang onto Hooker and say adios to Teddy. Zeitler can stick around if he's willing to do a one-year deal with a team option for year two. He wasn't as gassed at the end of the season as Glasgow or even Decker for that matter. That O-line needs attention in this draft.
And for my swing big or stay home pipedream make another deal with the Browns, this time for Garrett. His cap hit isn't as high as a guy like Crosby who doesn't want to leave his team anyway and Garrett wants out of Cleveland. The team is trying to dump salary to make up for that ridiculous Watson trade and the Lions might be able to pry Garrett loose with a second and third. Hey, if you're going to dream, dream big. But they have got to fix that spot opposite Hutch, with a real player. Not some injury prone gamble or some guy past his prime.
Rakestraw has cement feet lol
Reader may be a surprise cut
JARED GOFF
Kerby Carlton Zadarius Iffy
Onwuzurike, from the time he was drafted to now, nobody liked the pick. It is Holmes' one true bust. Should have never happened.
Brodric Martin was a FAR bigger bust by Holmes
they were signing guys off of other teams practice squads and activating them over Martin on game day. goes to show what the coaching staff thought of him plus Holmes traded up to grab him. bust
@ Giovanni Manu better pan out next season. Holmes can't afford back to back trade up busts smh
Our players went 15-2, we need to keep as many as possible! Skipper, Zietler, Davis, Z -Smith, T Patrick, Kerby, C. Reynolds, Barnes, Mohammad, even maybe give Iffy, Dorsey, Davenport & Mosley another chance for min pay. (Plus keep Hooker & make Bridgewater a player-coach)!
All those bums should be gone except Skipper, Patrick, Zietler, Dorsey, Kerby & Barnes. Toss out DJ Reader too.
Davenport needs to go
Depends on the price. That was a dirty play by Paris Johnson Jr
We need to keep Barnes imho
Trade Vildor & a 7th rd pick for literally nothing and I'd be happy!
Patrick go
Stay
Kevin stay
CD will be to expensive. Glasgow was awful. Keep Zeitler.
Jared Goff is way overpaid. Kirk Cousins is overpaid at 45 million per season and Tampa found the sweet spot with Baker Mayfield at 35 million per season.
Derek Barnes stay
Davis stay
WHY NOT GET HIGH DRAFT PICKS FOR GOFF TO REBUILD THE DEFENSE,WHY NOT SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN HOOKER,HE CANT DO WORSE THAN GOFF EVENIF WE DONT MAKE PLAYOFFS GOFF WAS BOUNCED OUT OF THE RUN TO A SUPERBOWL WHICH IS THE GOAL NOT JUST MAKING PLAYOFFS,I DONT SEE HOW THE FAN BASE STILL HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT GOFF WILL IMPROVE ENOUGH TO WIN THE BRIGHTEST GAME WITHOUT FAILURE
SUPERBOWL 0 ZERO TDs NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME VS SF 1 TD ON A 4TH DOWN GARBAGE PLAY WITH A LOSS AND BOUNCED ,NFC DIVISION VS WASHINGTON 3 OR 4 TURNOVERS AND BOUNCED OUT I HATE GOFF IM SORRY
Caps lock doesn't make your dumb point any better. Defense being healthy has more to do with the Lions than the Lions needing to load up on defense. Say it with me till you puke, "It's an offensive passing league."
So many Lions fans are acting silly because the Lions are new to the playoffs. Only ONE team's fan base gets to be happy at the end of the playoffs. ONE. This isn't college football with three dozen bowl wins to make people happy.
Should the Ravens and Bills cut their QBs?
Yes, it's possible to get worse at QB.
You'd rather the Lions not make the playoffs.... wtf type fan is that?!
Go be a Packers fan.
@@GulNadar Yes we could get worse at QB but we could have our own "Danils " too in Hooker ,I was a hater until the Seattle game he tricked out the haters and won us all over only to fall flat just like I envisioned who he was as a QB nothing but a Joey Harrington-esk clone on steroids nothing more ,the Rams won the trade sending us their trash.We are hamstrung the next 5 years under Jared Goff as he made sure we cant get rid of him like the Rams did he made sure he has a NO TRADE SO LIVE WITH HIM CHANT HIS NAME I WONT BE FOOLED AGAIN
@@lionking7599 Hendon needs a good preseason before I even pretend to think his really good college film translates.
It's still crazy to be upset the Lions are not winning the way you like. Wanting style points, lmao.