We got a new Kuhn's 510F tie grabber this year. Same challenges with the length's of the bale and height's however with some adjusts it has become the greatest invention since the Autopilot!
I’m sure there’s times/situations where this machine/system would be beneficial but as with most European equipment, they just can’t handle the volume. As far as transport, they have different weight/ height/length restrictions for their trucks than we do. In fact, they do a lot with just farm tractors on the road! Thanks for the video!
Have you put pencil to paper and figured out if it’s cost effective. When will you be able to make up the equipment investment. Looks cool. Long gone are the days of hiring high school kids to work for some spending money.
I think there would be lots of people who would buy these bundles. They would be easy to move around with equipment they already own. Those 3 string bales are heavy even for the "average" person.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch oh ok i wasnt sure since you were concerend about the height on your trailers maybe you could stack another row on the bottom deck and gain more bales per load. I was also curious why you never demo a triple mower setup instead of 1 self proppeled i feel like it would cut your time in half? Just curious anyway
@@smitty9120 I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen a triple mower with double crimpers. I also don’t like the inconsistency. I know there are some double mowers I would like to try out with crimpers.
Interesting, its always nice to have a different perspective im surrounded by big dairys and they all been switching to triple mowers but they're obviously chopping so thats a whole different ball game
Continue to use your current setup. If you're going to go after new sales because you have extra hay to sell, then make your own bundles to load into a van trailer. Loaded with a forklift.
Are you to maximum length for truck and trailer and weight wise? If not add a foot to the front and back of each trailer and make your hitch on the back trailer a little longer
I use to do 16x18 two string x4+ feet long with my home made spear squeeze on bobcat articulated, stacked with 1049 NH only two wide, load my step deck myself 14f hi about 100 inch wide, my customers didn't want a secondary set of bundle string it was awesome no finger print but to slow to bale now 3x3 with same h m squeeze straw n alfalfa hay
I know your area specializes in the 3 string bales. Would it ever be worth looking into changing over to two string balers and a bale baron? The two string are easier to handle by hand and the 21 bale bundles would handle like the big bales you sell for others. The baron bundles are so tight that feed stores can handle with a normal fork lift they already have completely eliminating the need for specialized equipment on the receiving end. Bundles also fit perfectly in van trailers. I personally only do a small volume of small coastal squares using a Steffens system accumulator and grapple. I struggle to compete with the convenience other producers offer in the local area by selling baron bundles. Huge expenses but may open up new market opportunities for your farm.
I was referring to changing to two string baler to use the marcrest bale baron that bundles 14” x 18” bales into 21 bale packages. It is at least twice as fast at building bundles as the arcusin multipack shown in this video. Trevor was saying the 14 bale 3 string bundles didn’t fit the truck as well. The small bale bundles fix the shipping issue
I have crunched the numbers several times. With the volume we do, it would be extremely difficult to go to a 2 string system. And at current prices, we’d be going backwards.
Interesting demonstration. At least you are trying something new, and you can decide if it works as is, works with adaptation, or doesn't work at all. You don't know until you try!👍👍
I understand the purpose it has and understand the thought of the design and everything behind it I can’t knock it one bit at all, it’s got its purpose for the right operation and yours is focused on a different direction and unless you wanna take that million dollar gamble is up to you not us we arnt signing the cheques. My two cents in my area as someone who would buy it and sell it this set up would be great, we could run step decks, 2 high on the front and 3 high on the back every farmer has a tractor or skiddy to unload in 20 minutes
Our operation is focused on selling a product. There are thousands of people and businesses that cannot purchase our products, because they cannot unload. There are very few squeezes in the country. There are a lot of little loaders, like you said. Easy to unload. So you are correct, our old way is faster, and more efficient. But this way opens the door on who can now purchase our product.
I may have missed something but you said 97-98" long and it looked slightly narrower as 2 wide. You might only have 96" wide trailers but 102" wide is legal basically everywhere. There may be a few locations that still say 96" but almost every trailer built today is 102 wide. Maybe a west coast guy can step in and clarify if the doubles makes a difference on some of the smaller roads but as far as I know, it shouldn't. For example technically 96 wide and over 65' long needs permits in NYC. Every 48'+ open deck or van is longer and wider than that but nobody abides by those ancient rules.
So what is the purpose of this thing? Fuel is the most important thing of any operation it seems to me that you adding an extra piece of equipment and another operator.. you still had to bring in a harrow bed? Im confused!
You are 100% correct. But you are only thinking about 1/2 the process. You are thinking like a producer. Think like the consumer. This is 100% for the buyer/person unloading the bundles. Very very very few people can quickly and efficiently unload hay the way we ship it. With these bundles, it takes a forklift or a front end loader with pallet forks or spears. This potentially opens my market. I could sale hay to a lot more people now! You are not wrong though. A lot of extra costs.
For our use, I disagree. Our system for us is extremely efficient. In a 12 hour day, we’re baling, stacking, hauling and storing 6,000 to 9,000 in a day. This bundler is 100% for the benefit of customers unloading and handling at their end.
That’s a fair point. My main problem with my operation is there’s only me and one other person. The bale bandit is being pulled behind the baler. It mainly benefits us from the lack of man power. What you have been doing until this demo works out for your operation. It doesn’t fit the operation I run.
I agree. But think about this. How many people across the country have squeezes? How many people have a grapple? How many people have a grapple that can go 14 feet high? Now, how many people have a little loader with spikes that can go 12 foot high? I can broaden my market to people that could never purchase from me in the past. Trust me, I’ve thought about this a lot.
Maybe .001%. The hay has already been baled. So what you see falling off is just a little visual. Nothing comes out of the bale. It does look bad though, doesn’t it! Really beats the bale up.
I’m not a fan…..I have a bale bandit and love it. The bundles need to be 21 and no more than 98”…..length depends on the machine, mine are 40-42” and 50-60 lbs two string. Baron is nice but bundles are much smaller, think maybe 34”?? Not sure. That can work better for the producer depending on where you live, some places buy “by the bale” price.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch really…..no three strings in our neck of the woods. I know the BB will do 17-18? bale packs for 16x18 bales, not sure what size three strings are.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch gotcha…..never even seen a three string in person. I’d probably shoot myself with one more knotter to worry about! 100lbs or thereabouts?
Sorry to say they are not packed as tight as the way you now do it. To many little problems, they need to fix it or don't buy it. Old saying, "If old method not Broke, DON'T CHANGE IT.
I agree, But I’m opening my market by 500%. Now instead of have 2,000 or 3,000 tons left over, I can sell hay to people that normally, could not buy 3 string bales from me.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I understand that but what I was trying to get at is now you may have to have a little longer trailer for the small Bale's with 3 strings. I don't mind buying 3 or 2 string Bales or even the big Bale's because I am thinking about buying maybe 8 bales
Doesn't look like too bad of a setup. I was gonna suggest if you do more live videos to get some moderators. Helps to keep the trolls and such out. Like the guy wanting you to say nea ger which was just trying to get you to say the n word
Que te parece la máquina de mi país,aquí llevan 30 años con su evolución pero el ganadero prefiere ya el paquete grande 80x80,120 x70,120x90 cm ,además aquí tienes prohibido circular en tandem tractor -empacadora-agrupador. Está misma empresa copio y mejoro el recogedor de pacas NEW HOLLAND con los que trabajas
The only upside is opening my market. Now anyone with a little loader and spears can unload. In a down market, this helps me move hay to new customers.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I totally can see your vision, but what's the payback time. My Dad's philosophy when times were tough was to pull your horns in, and stick to what works, take care of the customer base who got you where you are. Not much of a gambler, I guess ;-)
I agree, unfortunately there is a lot of alfalfa on the market. I am competing with everyone around me. I see a new opportunity of finding new customers. And sending hay to people that could never purchase it in the past.
If you think about it, all that lose isn’t even .5% It’s just that outer edge that gets scratched up. I agree though, it looks terrible as it picks it up.
Cool machine but I’d rather pay 6-7 high schoolers 10-12 bucks an hour to stack them on racks as they come off the baler. One less machine and tractor to buy and maintain and I’m putting people to work.
I would too. Unfortunately it makes it really hard for the receiver to unload 400+ bales quickly. These bales also weigh 95+ lbs. so it would take a lot of kids.
@@davidhorst6343 is the exact same small bale, just with a 3rd string. It’s still too slow for us. It’s a beast of a machine though. It’s built really really well.
🤦🏼♂️someone forgot do their basic market research before building a new “ingenious product ”……. New holland solved this question in the 60’s, then refined it in the 80’s…. You’d essentially be baling hay twice, into sketchy stacks that are either too big, or too small, have no cross tie, are hard to handle with industry standard equipment/ trucks, and will leave your trucks either under, or over loaded…. “Superior European engineering” fails again🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️. Don’t fix what isn’t broken..
@@rjautoservice791 a lot of people argue the opposite. The New Holland does not bundle the bales together, without a squeeze, it’s difficult to unload them. The rest of the country likes the bundles for the ease of unloading trailers, and moving the bales around. I would argue with them. The average person has a very difficult time unloading hay the NH stacked. Bales in a bundle only require a front end loads or telehandler and spears. I think it’s awesome, it’s not perfect, but it’s headed in the right direction, and without trying, they won’t get it right. But they are doing some literally, no one else is doing. Putting a 3 string bale in a bundle. And that is impressive. New holland has done nothing to bundle the bales together. Their design is awesome, and I love it. Unfortunately the rest of the country does not feel the same way.
But think of all the extra customers that can now unload with a medium sized loader and spears. Unload 500 bales in 45 mins and stack them in a barn and not have to hand stack. It has value on the other end. Not my end.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch That's a fair point. I was thinking short term wise, you've gotta change all trailers, stackers, squeezes and whatever else I'm sure there's a few things I'm forgetting lol. Also you'd be changing all the math in the barns and probably at all the presses as well, not super sure on that one. But If you can get all that priced out you'll be able to figure out if its worth doing. I'd also recommend talking to your customers and get their input.
The math is easy in the barns, the squeeze doesn’t change, the retriever doesn’t change. My point is, you can be the most efficient farm in the country. Do everything cheaper than anyone else, but your customers can’t handle, or unload your product. At the end of the day, what is best for the end user?
Stay with the setups you have
Sometime in the future when you change the packaging from three twine 90 pound bales to two twine 40 pound bales this Arcusin machine has potential.
There is a large hay market in the Panhandle. I see hundreds of truck loads in a few days but I cannot recall a load of small bale this year.
Loving the sleeper cab on the forktruck / forklift ........ 🙃
lol sleeper cab? It’s no sleeper cab.
I have to agree with Btian. Stick with what works.
But what works best for my customers.
We got a new Kuhn's 510F tie grabber this year. Same challenges with the length's of the bale and height's however with some adjusts it has become the greatest invention since the Autopilot!
I’m sure there’s times/situations where this machine/system would be beneficial but as with most European equipment, they just can’t handle the volume.
As far as transport, they have different weight/ height/length restrictions for their trucks than we do. In fact, they do a lot with just farm tractors on the road!
Thanks for the video!
I like the 14 bale count. Plus it’s the same size as a 3x3 square bale, I believe.
Have you put pencil to paper and figured out if it’s cost effective. When will you be able to make up the equipment investment. Looks cool. Long gone are the days of hiring high school kids to work for some spending money.
Wow loved the baler but not the price. I would stick with what you have already. God bless.
I think there would be lots of people who would buy these bundles. They would be easy to move around with equipment they already own. Those 3 string bales are heavy even for the "average" person.
I agree with you 100%!
Would it be feasable to run 48' or 53' stepdecks instead of the double strait decks?
No. We get 64 foot of deck space by running doubles with cheaters.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch oh ok i wasnt sure since you were concerend about the height on your trailers maybe you could stack another row on the bottom deck and gain more bales per load. I was also curious why you never demo a triple mower setup instead of 1 self proppeled i feel like it would cut your time in half? Just curious anyway
@@smitty9120 I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen a triple mower with double crimpers. I also don’t like the inconsistency. I know there are some double mowers I would like to try out with crimpers.
Interesting, its always nice to have a different perspective im surrounded by big dairys and they all been switching to triple mowers but they're obviously chopping so thats a whole different ball game
Build a apparatus to bolt on the front of your tractor to tip the bales over as you load.
Maybe this is what the 14” chambered 3 string bale was made for.
Did you haul any bundle blocks with retriever?
Continue to use your current setup. If you're going to go after new sales because you have extra hay to sell, then make your own bundles to load into a van trailer. Loaded with a forklift.
But how do I make my own bundles that are tight enough equipment can grab them? If anything, buy this thing, then run it stationary.
It's a demonstration. It's a potential purchase of a machine, IF they can justify it.
Are you to maximum length for truck and trailer and weight wise? If not add a foot to the front and back of each trailer and make your hitch on the back trailer a little longer
Poetry in motion - Watch this all day but alas I must work too.
Steamed bales or marginal moisture bales packed in bundles, more prone the heating compared to loose singles that can breath?
Ehhh. It’s 14 bales together. The other way is 64 bales. Less airflow. But maybe. Hard to say.
Does the bale bandit have a model that works with your size bales
No, they do not.
I use to do 16x18 two string x4+ feet long with my home made spear squeeze on bobcat articulated, stacked with 1049 NH only two wide, load my step deck myself 14f hi about 100 inch wide, my customers didn't want a secondary set of bundle string it was awesome no finger print but to slow to bale now 3x3 with same h m squeeze straw n alfalfa hay
How many total feet of of string are involved in a "regular" bundle compared to this "new" bundle?
What is a regular bundle? There is no bundle for 3 strings.
I know your area specializes in the 3 string bales. Would it ever be worth looking into changing over to two string balers and a bale baron? The two string are easier to handle by hand and the 21 bale bundles would handle like the big bales you sell for others. The baron bundles are so tight that feed stores can handle with a normal fork lift they already have completely eliminating the need for specialized equipment on the receiving end. Bundles also fit perfectly in van trailers.
I personally only do a small volume of small coastal squares using a Steffens system accumulator and grapple. I struggle to compete with the convenience other producers offer in the local area by selling baron bundles.
Huge expenses but may open up new market opportunities for your farm.
That machine does both two and three tie bales. It's just a pain to switch it from one to the other. They really need to redesign that part.
That machine does both three tie and two tie bales. Just a big pain to switch from one to the other
I was referring to changing to two string baler to use the marcrest bale baron that bundles 14” x 18” bales into 21 bale packages. It is at least twice as fast at building bundles as the arcusin multipack shown in this video.
Trevor was saying the 14 bale 3 string bundles didn’t fit the truck as well. The small bale bundles fix the shipping issue
I have crunched the numbers several times. With the volume we do, it would be extremely difficult to go to a 2 string system. And at current prices, we’d be going backwards.
Thanks for sharing, was just curious if it was something that would make business sense
have you looked at bale barron brand bale bundler
No, it won’t work for our bales.
Interesting demonstration. At least you are trying something new, and you can decide if it works as is, works with adaptation, or doesn't work at all. You don't know until you try!👍👍
Good thing for transport lock for roading farm equipment down the road from the farmyard to the farm field
I understand the purpose it has and understand the thought of the design and everything behind it I can’t knock it one bit at all, it’s got its purpose for the right operation and yours is focused on a different direction and unless you wanna take that million dollar gamble is up to you not us we arnt signing the cheques. My two cents in my area as someone who would buy it and sell it this set up would be great, we could run step decks, 2 high on the front and 3 high on the back every farmer has a tractor or skiddy to unload in 20 minutes
Our operation is focused on selling a product. There are thousands of people and businesses that cannot purchase our products, because they cannot unload. There are very few squeezes in the country. There are a lot of little loaders, like you said. Easy to unload. So you are correct, our old way is faster, and more efficient. But this way opens the door on who can now purchase our product.
How is this better than a harrowbed?
It’s not. It’s better for the receiver.
Stacks better. The bundles are a lot easier to load on trucks.
I may have missed something but you said 97-98" long and it looked slightly narrower as 2 wide. You might only have 96" wide trailers but 102" wide is legal basically everywhere. There may be a few locations that still say 96" but almost every trailer built today is 102 wide. Maybe a west coast guy can step in and clarify if the doubles makes a difference on some of the smaller roads but as far as I know, it shouldn't.
For example technically 96 wide and over 65' long needs permits in NYC. Every 48'+ open deck or van is longer and wider than that but nobody abides by those ancient rules.
how much longer can you make your trailers legally like what if you add a rack to the back like guys that haul roundbales
Whats the purpose of the bundles?
Makes it a lot easier for the receiver to unload.
Arcusin is a cool set up.
Gotta do alotta hay to pay for one though.
Thank god ya pulled it with a Deere.😁
Bahahaha.
Ever thought about trying a Baron?
Bale baron doesn’t work with three string bales.
Hey Trevor!
Is it Hot yet!🤣🤣🤣
How heaven are those bales?
95 lbs on average.
So what is the purpose of this thing? Fuel is the most important thing of any operation it seems to me that you adding an extra piece of equipment and another operator.. you still had to bring in a harrow bed? Im confused!
You are 100% correct. But you are only thinking about 1/2 the process. You are thinking like a producer. Think like the consumer. This is 100% for the buyer/person unloading the bundles. Very very very few people can quickly and efficiently unload hay the way we ship it. With these bundles, it takes a forklift or a front end loader with pallet forks or spears. This potentially opens my market. I could sale hay to a lot more people now! You are not wrong though. A lot of extra costs.
The bundles of hay are a way better method of getting hay put together. The bale bandit is the one I run.
For our use, I disagree. Our system for us is extremely efficient. In a 12 hour day, we’re baling, stacking, hauling and storing 6,000 to 9,000 in a day. This bundler is 100% for the benefit of customers unloading and handling at their end.
That’s a fair point. My main problem with my operation is there’s only me and one other person. The bale bandit is being pulled behind the baler. It mainly benefits us from the lack of man power. What you have been doing until this demo works out for your operation. It doesn’t fit the operation I run.
That, and they don’t do three string bales. I’d love to give them a try.
I’m no expert and I realize it so I have no unsolicited advice to give you in the comments about how to run your business. 😂😂😂😂😂
Have a great day!!!!
lol you too!! You can always ask why? Benefits?
My man Clint @ All Stock Hay runs the Arcusin. Check out video and channel 🤙🏼
You're messin with Brian's Cheese. Let us know how that works out for ya!
The operation seems very inefficient - please post another video explaining why this process is beneficial. Thanks for the video
It makes it easier for the receiver of the product.
Oi 👍👍👍👍✌️
Why?
Don’t Change anything!
More $$$$$ extra Twine!
Brian is a Smart Man!
Sloppy Stack!
I agree. But think about this.
How many people across the country have squeezes? How many people have a grapple? How many people have a grapple that can go 14 feet high? Now, how many people have a little loader with spikes that can go 12 foot high? I can broaden my market to people that could never purchase from me in the past. Trust me, I’ve thought about this a lot.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch can a Stack of 2 Fit inside a Shipping Container?
I thought edge bales were 15 inch wide x 6 equals 90 not 96
These are 7 wide. They didn’t have the kit to go 6.
Why would you not just use a Bale Baron? A proven and tested machine ? There is even a self propelled version of the Bale Baron
They can’t pick up our sized bale. These are 3 string 90+ lb bales. Or I’d definitely try it out.
That looks like you're losing a lot of leaves.
Maybe .001%. The hay has already been baled. So what you see falling off is just a little visual. Nothing comes out of the bale. It does look bad though, doesn’t it! Really beats the bale up.
I’m not a fan…..I have a bale bandit and love it. The bundles need to be 21 and no more than 98”…..length depends on the machine, mine are 40-42” and 50-60 lbs two string. Baron is nice but bundles are much smaller, think maybe 34”?? Not sure. That can work better for the producer depending on where you live, some places buy “by the bale” price.
@@kerrytodd3753 yeah, I bet they are nice. Unfortunately they don’t do 3 string bales.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch really…..no three strings in our neck of the woods. I know the BB will do 17-18? bale packs for 16x18 bales, not sure what size three strings are.
@@kerrytodd3753 16” up edge. 24” laying down flat. 47” long.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch gotcha…..never even seen a three string in person. I’d probably shoot myself with one more knotter to worry about! 100lbs or thereabouts?
That stack does not seem as tight as it should be.
That traactor is not old my 4010 and 4020 are old!
mite work for two stringers better but still slow. the balewagon is made in USA
Never seen 1 of them b4
Too slow it seems. When Mother Nature is coming this would be in the equipment yard. Bring out the stackers and get it done ✅
Sorry to say they are not packed as tight as the way you now do it. To many little problems, they need to fix it or don't buy it.
Old saying, "If old method not Broke, DON'T CHANGE IT.
It’s not that the old method is broke? It’s that, only 20% of the country can unload the old method. This opens up more customers for us.
Instead of buying more hay technology take ot from me... bou property and plant walnut trees in Dolan springs 😊
Your loosing leaves and you can't make a nother way to stack the balls and it's slower
I agree, But I’m opening my market by 500%. Now instead of have 2,000 or 3,000 tons left over, I can sell hay to people that normally, could not buy 3 string bales from me.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I understand that but what I was trying to get at is now you may have to have a little longer trailer for the small Bale's with 3 strings. I don't mind buying 3 or 2 string Bales or even the big Bale's because I am thinking about buying maybe 8 bales
That looks like a complicated, high maintenance machine.
No more than our current equipment. I agree though, one more thing to learn….
Doesn't look like too bad of a setup. I was gonna suggest if you do more live videos to get some moderators. Helps to keep the trolls and such out. Like the guy wanting you to say nea ger which was just trying to get you to say the n word
Yeah, jerk. Oh well. They will always be around.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch pretty well unavoidable
Bale math.
Que te parece la máquina de mi país,aquí llevan 30 años con su evolución pero el ganadero prefiere ya el paquete grande 80x80,120 x70,120x90 cm ,además aquí tienes prohibido circular en tandem tractor -empacadora-agrupador.
Está misma empresa copio y mejoro el recogedor de pacas NEW HOLLAND con los que trabajas
Not enough upside IMHO.
The only upside is opening my market. Now anyone with a little loader and spears can unload. In a down market, this helps me move hay to new customers.
You are right though, extra work, extra costs.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I totally can see your vision, but what's the payback time. My Dad's philosophy when times were tough was to pull your horns in, and stick to what works, take care of the customer base who got you where you are. Not much of a gambler, I guess ;-)
I agree, unfortunately there is a lot of alfalfa on the market. I am competing with everyone around me. I see a new opportunity of finding new customers. And sending hay to people that could never purchase it in the past.
Nice machine and all but.. look at all of the loss you guys had with way too much movement of those bales.
If you think about it, all that lose isn’t even .5% It’s just that outer edge that gets scratched up. I agree though, it looks terrible as it picks it up.
Cool machine but I’d rather pay 6-7 high schoolers 10-12 bucks an hour to stack them on racks as they come off the baler. One less machine and tractor to buy and maintain and I’m putting people to work.
I would too. Unfortunately it makes it really hard for the receiver to unload 400+ bales quickly. These bales also weigh 95+ lbs. so it would take a lot of kids.
Oh, and minimum wage here is almost $14 an hour.
Made it first . Stitting in the 4030R
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Arcusin AutoStack
Your loosing Leaves!
Not that much. Just that outer edge. .001% maybe?
We don’t listen to people that don’t know the difference between your and you’re.
@@gregjames5070could be auto correct. You wouldn’t believe the things my phone changes.
Bale baron is faster and better
I’d love for bale baron to make something for 3 strings. I’d try it out too!
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Marcrest just released a 3 string baler for the Bale Baron in February
@@davidhorst6343 is the exact same small bale, just with a 3rd string. It’s still too slow for us. It’s a beast of a machine though. It’s built really really well.
expensive hay
Yes, the saying goes with hay as other things. You get what you pay for.
🤦🏼♂️someone forgot do their basic market research before building a new “ingenious product ”……. New holland solved this question in the 60’s, then refined it in the 80’s…. You’d essentially be baling hay twice, into sketchy stacks that are either too big, or too small, have no cross tie, are hard to handle with industry standard equipment/ trucks, and will leave your trucks either under, or over loaded….
“Superior European engineering” fails again🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️. Don’t fix what isn’t broken..
@@rjautoservice791 a lot of people argue the opposite. The New Holland does not bundle the bales together, without a squeeze, it’s difficult to unload them. The rest of the country likes the bundles for the ease of unloading trailers, and moving the bales around. I would argue with them. The average person has a very difficult time unloading hay the NH stacked. Bales in a bundle only require a front end loads or telehandler and spears. I think it’s awesome, it’s not perfect, but it’s headed in the right direction, and without trying, they won’t get it right. But they are doing some literally, no one else is doing. Putting a 3 string bale in a bundle. And that is impressive. New holland has done nothing to bundle the bales together. Their design is awesome, and I love it. Unfortunately the rest of the country does not feel the same way.
Extra tractor, extra employee, extra string expense, extra step. Nah.
But think of all the extra customers that can now unload with a medium sized loader and spears. Unload 500 bales in 45 mins and stack them in a barn and not have to hand stack. It has value on the other end. Not my end.
Hopefully then you’re saying increased sales?
Stacking and handling not working to your standards. Your current system seems much better
But what’s better for the buyer? Receiver?
I do agree with you for my end.
Need to remove the logo
Huh?
It's in the bottom corner of the screen
Waaaaaaaay too much Trevor face time.
Sorry. Sometimes things need explaining?
Not impressed.
@@JBaads sorry.
I dont like it. It changes everything, not worth it.
But what if I can charge more, and sell all my hay, instead of have thousands of tons left over?
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch That's a fair point. I was thinking short term wise, you've gotta change all trailers, stackers, squeezes and whatever else I'm sure there's a few things I'm forgetting lol. Also you'd be changing all the math in the barns and probably at all the presses as well, not super sure on that one. But If you can get all that priced out you'll be able to figure out if its worth doing. I'd also recommend talking to your customers and get their input.
The math is easy in the barns, the squeeze doesn’t change, the retriever doesn’t change. My point is, you can be the most efficient farm in the country. Do everything cheaper than anyone else, but your customers can’t handle, or unload your product. At the end of the day, what is best for the end user?
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch yeah just gotta talk to the customers about it!