Why a Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist Covered Up A Ukrainian Genocide

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  • From 1930 to 1933, up to 7 million Ukrainians starved to death in one of the worst genocides in history.
    Yet it wasn’t until the 1980s that the truth of the Holodomor became apparent.
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  • @idontwanttobefound
    @idontwanttobefound ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I just found this channel recently because of one of your videos about hamas and watched pretty much all of your recent videos in a row. I'm Ukrainian Israeli. Thank you so much for the work you do. This means a lot.

  • @ЄвгенВасиленко-е9ф
    @ЄвгенВасиленко-е9ф ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Thanks from Ukraine for this video. My gradma survived that famine. She used to tell us stories about what she had seen - bodies of kids with tips of their fingers biten of( their last atempt to eat something).

    • @crownofglory1264
      @crownofglory1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did she also tell about Babi Yar? Carried out by Ukrainian civilians.

    • @victrola2007
      @victrola2007 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@crownofglory1264It would be impossible NOT to as well as SACRILEGIOUS barbaric destruction of the area by Putin.
      EVERYONE should read Timothy Snyder's "Blooodlands: Between Hitler and Stalin" to understand why today's war in Ukraina is even different than one back when Bidet was cutting deals with previous government.
      Millions of us who escaped Soviet Communism nightmare know this history. It's not just Ukranians who're getting slaughtered but countless mixed families who've lived in the region for generations. I'm in my mid-50's and was safely brought to our beloved home in the US. Countless times I've tried to explain the complexities and horror locked away in archives and deliberately ignored in the West. Thankfully, at least even some of my sane friends' (now grown children) also grew up learning the unvarnished history including watching "The Soviet Story" that couldn't even be made today. Thank you for this segment.

    • @idontwanttobefound
      @idontwanttobefound ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ОП, сподіваюсь у вас зараз все настільки в порядку наскільки можливо. Ваша бабуся дуже смілива жінка

  • @krakatoa1200
    @krakatoa1200 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    i read about Gareth jones.. The Welshman was one of the few who told the truth in his articles, and was assassinated for his trouble.. Malcom Muggeridge, manged to live until 1990, and was a regular on our TV's in Britain back then.

  • @victrola2007
    @victrola2007 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    EVERYONE should read Timothy Snyder's "Blooodlands: Between Hitler and Stalin" to understand why today's war in Ukraina is even different than one back when Bidet was cutting deals with previous government.
    Millions of us who escaped Soviet Communism nightmare know this history. It's not just Ukranians who're getting slaughtered but countless mixed families who've lived in the region for generations. I'm in my mid-50's and was safely brought to out beloved home in the US. Countless times I've tried to explain the complexities and horror locked away in archives and deliberately ignored in the West. Thankfully, at least even some of my sane friends' (now grown children) also grew up learning the unvarnished history including watching "The Soviet Story" that couldn't even be made today. Thank you for this segment.

    • @rthompson7182
      @rthompson7182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good book. Not particularly uplifting, but a good book.

  • @regolith1350
    @regolith1350 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For anyone interested, the film "Mr. Jones" (released in 2019) depicts Gareth Jones' heroic efforts to first uncover and then publicize the horrors. Actor Peter Sarsgaard also does a great job as the duplicitous, malevolent Walter Duranty.

  • @nedruss7040
    @nedruss7040 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Maybe only 7 million in Ukraine. The extent of the collectivization famine in the whole USSR was closer to 12-15 million, with most responsible estimates closer to the high end. People strong enough to still walk would calmly pass bodies of the victims in the streets without hesitation. It had become that common. The Soviet government was keenly aware of the suffering it inflicted on its own people, going so far as to hang propaganda posters stating that it was inappropriate to eat your children.

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wasn't it Durante that wrote, "you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.”
    So far well over 100 million eggs broken, and the mystical omelette has never been seen.

  • @brianschwatka3655
    @brianschwatka3655 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can you do one on the Katyn Forrest Massacre and our role in covering it up?

  • @Mandatory-Fun
    @Mandatory-Fun ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There’s a movie about gareth jones made a few years ago called Mr. Jones. It’s definitely worth a watch

  • @baldeagle5835
    @baldeagle5835 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Educational material.

  • @rthompson7182
    @rthompson7182 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You don’t hate journalists as much as you should. You think you do, but you don’t.

    • @eksortso
      @eksortso 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This channel isn't about hate. It's about understanding. This particular story showed both bad and good journalism in action. Although the motivations guiding each journalist's actions aren't covered, enough info is presented so that you can seek out these details if you are truly interested. But if you just want to dunk on journalism as a whole, you were never interested in understanding news media in the first place, and you'd blindly follow anyone who shares your blind hatred.

    • @mustang607
      @mustang607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is the path to the dark side that many have walked, often with good intentions.

    • @MuffinManUSN
      @MuffinManUSN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't hate them, just disappointed in their output to society. Its like if Walmart Tire Shops were our only option for Vehicle maintenance and repairs.
      Advertising they do Roofs too😅

  • @kaytagney702
    @kaytagney702 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow! I remember Malcom Mugeridge as I’m from the Uk. He was always portrayed as somewhat of a fool, saying outrageous things that went against governmental dictat 😏 now we all know why! I picked this up as a child from tv. I bet if I listened to his ideas now, I would get a 💡moment. It’s always the way when the msm are in charge 🤨

    • @joaoduarte7682
      @joaoduarte7682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Malcolm Muggeridge was not only a great journalist but a solid catholic theologian that I respect very much. His literary works are pretty much on the same level as the other catholic writer, G. K. Chesterton and C. S. Lewis.

    • @angus7278
      @angus7278 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mugeridge was the one who saw some “holy light” shining around Mother Theresa. No one else saw it of course, but the religious fanatic Mugeridge insisted on it and started the “living saint” mythology. Complete fraud.

  • @LadaSchrapnell
    @LadaSchrapnell ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many thanks from Ukraine!

  • @ladymacbethofmtensk896
    @ladymacbethofmtensk896 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    And with this cover-up Duranty also gave plausible deniability to another regime planning a genocide in Germany.

  • @miketackabery7521
    @miketackabery7521 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just one more good reason to hate on the Times and the Pulitzers. Both of them New York garbage.

  • @mvmv5883-e3g
    @mvmv5883-e3g ปีที่แล้ว +8

    New York Times = Pravda

  • @marinablueGS
    @marinablueGS ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The unanswered question....why did Duranty cover for Stalin?

    • @bludeuce3855
      @bludeuce3855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      becuase he was bribed by communist elites with luxury items. thats why

    • @incredulouskirk
      @incredulouskirk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I give you an honest answer, yt will censore me.

    • @StudleyDuderight
      @StudleyDuderight ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@incredulouskirk Hit us with it anyway. If it gets auto-deleted then use clever wording. Keep changing it up until something slips through.

    • @billobrien5140
      @billobrien5140 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stalin knew Walt liked the XY chromosome - not something you want everyone to know in the 1930s. I'm trying to avoid you tube big bro.

    • @28pbtkh23
      @28pbtkh23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billobrien5140 - interesting. Most of the traitors in Britain were also of that persuasion. ‘Batting for the other side,’ as we used to say. This is one reason to be thankful for the decriminalisation of homosexuality.

  • @spikedpsycho2383
    @spikedpsycho2383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why corporate owned media do anything

  • @Munce72
    @Munce72 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work Nick! Scooby snacks for you.
    Praying for Israel and the entire Middle East.
    My allegiance is to Liberty, and the Repubic.

  • @johnlogan5152
    @johnlogan5152 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing this with the ignorant people !!

    • @angus7278
      @angus7278 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s not a nice thing to say about his subscribers.

    • @miketackabery7521
      @miketackabery7521 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@angus7278he meant you.

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    History rhymes with vengeance.

  • @billoberg3272
    @billoberg3272 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7-8 million. READ Harvest of Sorrows if you can???

  • @jameswebb4593
    @jameswebb4593 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What has been omitted is that all three were British . Duranty and Muggeridge English and Jones Welsh. Muggeridge considered Duranty's dispatches the worst example of journalism he had ever seen.

  • @ri-oj1ul
    @ri-oj1ul ปีที่แล้ว +21

    About that "Soviet-induced genocide"... you've only never heard of it because you are an American. This famine also impacted much of Kazakhstan, parts of Siberia, Urals and many other areas within the USSR.
    It was not really a "genocide" in the traditional sense... Stalin just wanted to delete any threats to his power, so he went after the kulak class -- who just so happened to be the farmers that made a little too much money (because they were productive and moderately successful). Given that 20% of the farms probably produced 80% of the output... you can do the math of how that went down. A million people were outright murdered, many more were exiled, sent to camps, their property was confiscated. The remaining mid-size farmers were put out of business when agricultural production was collectivized which is just a polite way of saying they forced everyone back into serfdom. A lot of them, knowing they would be targeted for having 2 cows too many or a few extra acres of farmland, destroyed or gave away what they could so as to not hand it over to the government, a contraction in agricultural capacity that the USSR would never recover from.
    It's been argued that Stalin did not know the extent of the problem because in standard Soviet fashion the yes-men surrounding him assured him that there was enough grain... until the winter came and it was discovered that there wasn't. While this is absolutely no excuse for his reprehensible policies, it may explain why different reporters wrote very different stories. The life in Moscow and the life anywhere else in the USSR was 2 very very different things.
    This was a very dark period of history, but there are a lot of very valuable lessons that we can learn here...
    That the Pulitzer is a joke is already known

    • @victrola2007
      @victrola2007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It Speaking as a naturalized American, I have to say that a great part of the blame is squarely on the survivors' reluctance to share this with their families - via trauma or otherwise. Generations were raised in safety of the US without understanding history. It is up to us to share this information as much as possible. Period. EVERYONE should read Timothy Snyder's "Blooodlands: Between Hitler and Stalin" to understand why today's war in Ukraina is even different than one back when Bidet was cutting deals with previous government.
      Millions of us who escaped Soviet Communism nightmare know this history. It's not just Ukranians who're getting slaughtered but countless mixed families who've lived in the region for generations. I'm in my mid-50's and was safely brought to our beloved home in the US. Countless times I've tried to explain the complexities and horror locked away in archives and deliberately ignored in the West. Thankfully, at least even some of my sane friends' (now grown children) also grew up learning the unvarnished history including watching "The Soviet Story" that couldn't even be made today. Thank you for this segment.

    • @kathleenmann7311
      @kathleenmann7311 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This horror isn’t taught in American schools. Our education system is a disgrace ! God help America 🇺🇸😢

    • @Mandatory-Fun
      @Mandatory-Fun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention that the first 5 year plan was in full swing by this point and Stalin was selling off much of the Ukrainian grain to pay for the massive industrialization

    • @robw9435
      @robw9435 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm American and I've known about this since I was a teenager. Why do you assume that Americans are ignorant of history?

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kathleenmann7311
      Because the US education system has been co-opted by Marxists.

  • @beesteboy711
    @beesteboy711 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    History does indeed repeat itself....

  • @Windy-Pie_is_best_girl
    @Windy-Pie_is_best_girl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Dad, I'm a communist"
    My pants: Adios

  • @JohannY3
    @JohannY3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So nothing changed at the new York Times.

  • @Croatlik
    @Croatlik ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting.

  • @OscarSchneegans
    @OscarSchneegans ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BuT tHaT wAsN't REAL cOmMuNiSm!

    • @angus7278
      @angus7278 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the declining living standards, out of reach housing prices, unaffordable rents, stagnant wages, longer workdays, rising inequality, exploding homelessness, environmental degradation, climate disasters and a military-industrial complex constantly looking for wars around the world….AREn’T ReAl CaPitaliSm! 😂😂😂

    • @alechinshaw5990
      @alechinshaw5990 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How was Holodomor even result of Communism? It’s not like it happened accidentally because of bad leadership. It happened because Stalin did it intentionally in order to undermine the Ukrainian independence movement.

  • @ctreid87
    @ctreid87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beard Wednesday!

  • @stalinberphonsa8268
    @stalinberphonsa8268 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nonsense and lies

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You need to dive deeper into the policies of soviets at the time. You tend to realy only focus on headlines and attention grabbing words. Ukraine this and that.. stalin did a lot of bad things to a lot of different ethnic and social groups.

    • @angus7278
      @angus7278 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inconvenient facts: The USSR went from near LAST place in the world economically to SECOND place in the space of less than 50 years. All in spite of being attacked from the outset of the revolution by western armies, fighting a civil war and two world wars, as well as suffering sanctions, sabotage and boycotts. And they STILL defeated the Nazis and put a man in space.
      Massive amounts of housing was built giving everyone cheap housing. Everyone had a job, free education, health care, social activities and a feeling of working together towards a better world. The USSR supported anti-colonial and independence struggles around the world. And every Soviet citizen even got one whole month’s holiday a year!
      Compare THAT to the armies of homeless and addicted haunting every city in steadily declining capitalist America.
      After the USSR was illegally dissolved and subjected to capitalist “shock therapy”- guess what happened? Unemployment skyrocketed, inflation rose, poverty especially among the elderly increased, homelessness increased, drug use and alcoholism increased, ethnic tensions increased. Public assets were sold off to gangsters for pennies on the dollar. It took the economy over a decade to recover and look at what the West made of Russia today: a far-right intolerant corrupt capitalist regime run by the Mafia. No wonder nearly every person who lived in the USSR is so nostalgic for it.
      Was it perfect? No. Too much spying, too much centralization, restrictions on religions, and too many paranoid purges. Obviously. But maybe it’s time to take the Cold War propaganda goggles off and look at the TRUE objective facts of Russia’s history for a change?

    • @miketackabery7521
      @miketackabery7521 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@angus7278yeah and Nazi Germany did all sorts of good things too... in between all the monstrous things.
      Just like the USSR.

    • @larspatriksson4744
      @larspatriksson4744 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@angus7278 The "facts" you cite are worthless, as they are data provided by the Soviets themselves and fraudulent. Unlike you, I did not learn about the USSR from leftist university professors. I learned it the hard way, by living it. I saw the Soviets up close and personal. I know socialism from the receiving end.
      Housing was in chronic shortage. Two or three families crammed into space not fit for one, with common bathrooms and kitchen spaces for the entire building.
      Yes, everyone had a job, even if it didn't pay you anything. And you didn't get to choose what job you worked. The Bosses chose that for you.
      Education was free, and access was on the basis of patronage and corruption, not merit. The health care was based on socialist doctors who had the training roughly equal to a licenced practical nurse in the west, and who could do little more than push pills. If you were politically connected, you got the good anti-biotics, the ones imported from France. If you were just an average worker, you got the ones that were filled with water, because they were made when the slave labour in the factories were desperate to meet their monthly quota.
      Speaking of work quotas, that whole month holiday? We "voluntarily" declined it to stay at work, because if we didn't we risked being taken off the waiting list that we had been on all our lives for an apartment. If your family was lucky enough to have a separate apartment, you "volunteered" to work through your vacation so they wouldn't take it away. We had no rights, no security, no assurances. Our very existence was at the whim of the party. Every day, we lived in constant fear.
      The social activities? Oh yes, they were great. We absolutely believed we were working together in peace and brotherhood for a new socialist world. They were so great, we forgot how malnourished and miserably poor we were.
      And there were great armies of homeless and addicted all throughout the Soviet sphere. The people were so miserable, so hopeless, they turned to alcohol to self-medicate and literally drank themselves into the grave. Russia, Estonia, Byelorussia, Poland, the DDR, it was like this everywhere. You think you have seen Deaths of Despair in America? Child, you have seen nothing...
      The cold war propaganda you speak of works in opposite to what you believe. It actually paints the unending nightmare of the USSR in a far better light than what it truly was. Someone like you, who has only ever known the prosperity and luxury of capitalism and the west cannot begin to imagine the ghastly inhumanity that was socialism and the Soviet experience.
      I will never forgive the socialists for what they did and the millions of people they murdered, the hundreds of millions of lives they destroyed. And I will never forgive their apologists like you for the lies you spread and the efforts you make to revisit their horrors upon us. I hope you get what you what you so richly deserve - to spend the rest of your life under socialism, far, far away from the rest of us.

  • @angus7278
    @angus7278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some inconvenient facts: The USSR went from near LAST place in the world economically to SECOND place in the space of less than 50 years. All in spite of being attacked from the outset of the revolution by western armies, fighting a civil war and two world wars, as well as suffering sanctions, sabotage and boycotts. And they STILL defeated the Nazis and put a man in space.
    “Yeah, but it was still a failure man…” Really? If that’s failure, then what does success look like?
    Massive amounts of housing was built giving everyone cheap housing. Everyone had a job, free education, health care, social activities and a feeling of working together towards a better world. The USSR supported anti-colonial and independence struggles around the world. And every Soviet citizen even got one whole month’s holiday a year!
    Compare THAT to the armies of homeless and addicted haunting every city in steadily declining capitalist war-mongering America.
    After the USSR was illegally dissolved and subjected to capitalist “shock therapy”- guess what happened? Unemployment skyrocketed, inflation rose, poverty especially among the elderly increased, homelessness increased, drug use and alcoholism increased, ethnic tensions increased. Public assets were sold off to gangsters for pennies on the dollar. It took the economy over a decade to recover and look at what the West made of Russia today: a far-right intolerant corrupt capitalist militarist regime run by the Mafia. No wonder nearly every person who lived in the USSR is so nostalgic for it.
    Was it perfect? No - too much spying, too much centralization, restrictions on religions, and too many paranoid purges. But maybe it’s time to take the Cold War propaganda goggles off and look at the TRUE objective facts of Russia’s history for a change?

    • @miketackabery7521
      @miketackabery7521 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. The USSR accomplished SO MUCH! Just like China and Germany: so much murder. The sheer evil is mind boggling... just like those who would excuse it.