Soldering for the First Time | Ask This Old House
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- WEB EXCLUSIVE: In a recent episode of Ask This Old House, plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey helped landscape designer Jenn Nawada hook up a fridge with an icemaker. While he was there, he offered Jenn a crash course on soldering.
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Time: 1 hour
Cost: $50
Skill Level: Moderate
Tools List for Soldering:
Measuring tape
Pipe cutter
Blow torch
Bucket
Shopping List:
Pipe cleaner
Solder
Flux
Pipes
Fittings
Rags
Steps:
1. Shut the water off to the pipes being soldered.
2. Measure and cut the pipes to length using the pipe cutter. Have a bucket ready to catch any water left over in the pipe.
3. Let the pipes dry before soldering or the connection won’t take.
4. Use a pipe cleaner to clean the outside of the pipes and the insides of the fittings.
5. Generously apply flux to the cleaned ends of the pipes and fittings and fit the pieces together.
6. Hold the blow torch on the opposite side of where you plan to apply to solder. Wait a few minutes to allow the pipe to heat up, and then gently touch the pipe with the solder. If it quickly wraps around the entire connection, then it took properly. If it did not, continue to heat the pipe up and try again.
7. Wipe down the excess solder on the pipe with a rag.
8. Turn the water back on.
Resources:
All the materials required for soldering - solder, flux, blow torch, pipes, and fittings - are available at home centers and plumbing supply houses.
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Taking a class, any class, from This Old House would be a dream come true!! I love these guys
They both did great. My old boss would say " Soldering is not something I can teach you, its something you have to learn". He was right. I learned more by my mistakes and watching others than anything instruction. Good first attempt though.
Your old boss obviously didn't understand the difference between tacit and explicit knowledge. You can teach anyone the theory and practice of anything. No dumb questions; only dumb teachers. Hopefully you didn't cause any structure fires learning what NOT to do the hard way.
I learned plumbing and electrical thanks to this old house.
Moved my washer: new water lines and electrical including a 220
TOH taught me to solder over 30 years ago and I'm glad to report the 1" copper I soldered as a kid all those years ago in my Mom's house is still working fine.
That's awesome
Let teach you how to plumbing deep plumbing lol
My first time soldering I was surprised how easy it was. I'm sure larger pipe 1 1/2" and above is a different story
great student with great teacher 👏😁 this is awesome
You guys are like an uncle teaching me stuff around the house. Thank you.
How about ask this TX master plumber... It's best to apply a bit of heat to the pipe right next to the fitting first. And don't leave the heat in one spot like that again! For one, you'll burn up the fitting and make it weak. For 2, move the heat around the fitting, the solder follows the heat. For 3, if you're only soldering 2 sides of a tee, put a dummy piece in the side you aren't sweating, otherwise, you might have a hard time getting the pipe to fit correctly once you are ready to sweat it.
Tips like this are extremely helpful especially to a beginner like myself. Thanks for the insight.
That's one Crème Brûlée I wouldn't want for desert.
Good job on the solder 👍
Gobi or Mojave?
4:48 "this is awesome!"
"focus lady, stop talking, focus!"
It bothers me that didn't ream the inside of the pipe
These are so helpful. Starting a library of useful info. These videos help keep up to speed on everything home stuff. Easy to follow and explains in detail. Great stuff. Oh by the way say hello to the best "Mr. Yankee" Norm. Great guy.
Looks very easy but takes a little practice. Lots of people comment on deburring. I'd suggest MAP gas and moving the flame over one side of the fitting. Tinning flux is probably a better choice for most. It usually takes a length of solder about equal to the pipe diameter, so I bend the rod at 1/2" for 1/2" pipe as a guide. Apply the solder opposite the heat source and lower on the fitting so that, when you see the solder on the heated side, you know that capillary action has filled the joint rather than gravity moving it over flux. Then wipe it down.
Where permitted, use 50-50 lead solder since it has a lower melting point and is therefore easier to use.
Obviously must not be used on pipes for potable water. Pex, compression fittings, etc. are very popular for good reasons.
Thank you for wonderful demonstration.
This lady has some muscles!
I know. Nothing like a physically-fit woman.
Its amazing that he is a licensed plumber. First heat the pipe then move the flame to the fitting.
This is the best TH-cam Chanel ever keep on coming guys!!
Chanel #5
These are great videos loving this channel
Best how to video! So clear and concise!
Great video!
Richard looks like he's teaching her while sleeping... he's a pro
Don’t you need to debur the inside?
Finally something I can learn from
Thank you! Very helpful.
Fail , what about deburring copper pipe after cutting.
1:42
He used the steel brush to clean the inside.
The brush won't remove burrs, so doesn't the cut pipe have to be deburred first?
Agreed. Although the inside pipe cleaner brush could do done deburring.
i think he should of placed the open end of thhe tee facing upwards in case she added too much solder it doesnt risk being spilled over to that area. you can see that there was already a pool of flux in that area.
Stay in the groove baby
Nice but you don’t mention to use lead free solder, which is very important am I right?
Adam FPV I dont think you can buy leaded solder on a foll anymore
Adam FPV I have never seen Lead solder for plumbing on only on Electronics
@@acman0926rolls of 50/50 lead solder are still sold for non-potable and DWV applications
No reaming plus I was taught to always solder every side of a fitting at the same time. It’s so you don’t draw the solder out of another joint when heating up the cold side. This only really matters on smaller sizes. At least 1” and smaller
what about deburring?
I've never seen copper tube that needed deburred. Cutting small stainless lines for compression fittings I have but never residential copper.
I do that as well. Also, did it seem like an eternity for that first connection to bubble? Did she have the heat on the most optimal spot?
It needs to be deburred for sure. If you don’t the tiniest little burr will catch deposits in the water and they will spin around in a vortex while water is flowing and erode the pipe until it is spraying out a little
The inside of the copper needs to be deburred. There is a tool with a hook end that makes deburring easy. She should of had the flame closer, and MAPP gas would have worked better than propane.
2 AM totally agree. Needs to be deburred. Mapp gas works way better than propane
generation next! looks like some of our old guys are retiring soon
I love this channel!
All you guys are great confidence makers rich is great I always use the shark bites I wish I knew if he used them ever on a job
That jar of flux looks like it’s from the Eisenhower administration, probably time for a new one lol
Nice 👍
I had a really hard time today getting my solder to melt. Please make sure there is no water in your pipes when you try to do this soldering! :-)
It should only take between 30 seconds and one minute to get the copper to the right temperature before the solder melts. I sat there for 10 minutes heating up the pipe and it never melted because I had some water in the pipe.
Much better video
How to unsolder flex hose attached to a gate valve without destroying rubber gasket?
How do we search all your videos for a specific topic?
Too bad we can't get MAPP (methylacetylene/propadiene) gas anymore. The MAPP Pro gas now available is hotter than propane but not as hot as the real MAPP was. I wish I'd stocked up in 2008!
Damned do-gooders.
omg I been using this tool to clean battery terminals
Good job
My dad has an old soldering "gun" - is that too weak for this application in lieu of the blowtorch?
That's only good for soldering electric work
Thanks guys.
Yes.
Thank you for this
Would be nice to see it up close
Ty. Curious about that prep table and solder on the floor?
In the UK we have pipe slices which cut the pipe in half the time.
Sukh Singh This kind of pipe cutter is best.
Well good for you.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 it is
Get more information from the video. Thank you for sharing.
Not
Why do you pronounce solder without the L and why do you not use loaded Solder fittings, cheers from Scotland
You never put flux on the inside of the fitting this can cause internal pipe corrosion even after flushing, amateurs ,soLder has a L
Better to put heat all around the fitting so that the solder goes in all the way around other than that it's ok
Cristian Munoz he showed the right way. Heating on one side and feeding solder on the other guarantees thorough heating. Copper is an excellent heat conductor.
EclecticBuddha not really because if you put heat on just one side you can burn the flux and risk the solder not going in the whole fitting.
Cristian Munoz and you have never done this.. just watched videos about it
axtra92 lol well since im a plumber I do it a lot
Cristian Munoz dont think so
Flux is not a catalyst. Soldering doesn’t require a catalyst. Flux is an acid which improves on the mechanical cleaning by ‘eating’ any remaining oxides.
Turn the cutter around the pipe! you don't turn the pipe in the cutter.
Homepros NYC it is her first time
Id bett a hundred bucks it cuts the same
He is teaching her, so he should have told her how to cut the pipe correctly
The pipe is short so it’s easier to turn the pipe
Why does it matter
Gotta ream the cut pipe, Richard! You know better.
Move the torch around for even heat distribution
No. He's doing it right.
" Now make a groove."
" I have my groove on!"
" Now stay in your groove.
Eh, eh, eh, eh."
" keep twisting!"
When soldering you want to do all 3 sides of the tee. In this case when soldering the 3rd side the solder might let loose on the other side and leak, please check out the vids i made on plumbing
LimitzHd Solder all 3 sides of the tee at the same time. Of course you do. But it wouldn't be any fun watching a "This Old House" video if they did.
Flux is designed to prevent oxidatin.
deburring steps???
Aww Richard the great. She must have sent Rich an E mail . Ha ha
guardduck25 ?
axtra92 axtra92?
Did I miss the part where they debur the pipe?
Please teach me 😃
عملكم متقن اتمنى لكم الحياة السعيدة
Great now you have solder on the floor
That was the nastiest container of flux I’ve ever seen. I think it was more crap than flux
Why does he never use a pipe slice
Like creme broooleeee!
I was hoping the cameraman would have zoomed in at the project. Good video though
Dont touch it!
For real looked like he was about to grab the pipe
Never inside the fitting!!!
Forgot to deburr the inside of the pipe.
And clean off the copper particles they made. Unreamed and unclean!
De-burring is important as well. Check out "Got2Learn" videos.
Why is she spinning the pipe and not the tool?
It's her first time. Her teacher should have told her to spin tool
That was way longer than 6 inches
I turn the pipe cutter but she turned the copper lol
Didn’t de-burr ? - years down the road you could get a leak from turbidity
Is that less important in a radiator pipe, due to much slower flow?
Never solder a fitting with an empty socket
David Miller Why no sherlock
Not
Why not?
The water will run straight out
didn't deburr the pipe you cut.
leak for sure
Using propane to solder wow !!
Terrible camera work, the camera should be focussed in on flame, pipe, and the solder, NOT the two people talking to one another.
Ugh there are bttr soldering videos out there
Some of these blow torches are useless
What I assume is a Master Plumber and doesn't deburr/ream the cut pipe? FAIL
U 4got to ream it
OVER HEAT!!!
not a smart move the solder over a nice hardwood floor
The awkwardness continues ...
jake williams I’m just here for the comments lmao.
TheOtherWhiteBread0 what a wrong?
I really don't get what you guys are on about. What's so akward about this?
TheOtherWhiteBread0 well yes, I am a beginner at this, otherwise I wouldn't be watching this video. I specialize in power electronics and I regularly give "hands-on" trainings on variable frequency drives VFD's. Sometimes I get engineers who have never programmed a VFD in their life so then it's important to give them time to absorb the information and that means that sometimes you just have to sit silent and watch how they figure it out on their own. You can't just constantly bombard them with information just because you feel that silence is akward.
So... I still don't see what's so akward about this
I applaud her effort but that was painful to watch.
Forgot to remove the inside burrs
Use MAPP gas torch not propane.
James Thomas did it not work?
Mookie Man. Just quicker. Higher heat.
I honestly feel that would complicate this. Slower and steady wins the race when you are learning something new.
I only use a full sized rosebud with an oxy acetylene setup. For bigger jobs I just wrap the solder around each fluxed fitting and burn the house down so they all get done at once. Time is money!
EclecticBuddha .. Perfect. But skip the flux and solder, use a staple gun or masking tape
A shekel saved is a shekel earned.
Real plumber don’t use ppe
As a lecturer in plumbing here in the UK thought you might be interested in a few facts. Your soldering technology is very dated. We stopped end feeding fittings about 10 years ago. The main reason being that there are two solders on the market. Firstly the cheap lead solder which is banned from using on potable water, only allowed for heating systems. Second solder is the more expensive lead free solder for potable or drinking water. Unfortunately many unscrupulous plumbers were end feeding the cheap solder into potable systems. All our solder fittings now have an integral lead free solder built into the fitting with a potable stamp on the outside of the fittingAlso noticed your meticulous cleaning of the copper. All our fluxes are self cleaning, when heat is applied they completely clean the fitting and pipe. So process is flux fitting, push together and heat, job done.
don't have to use pre soldered fittings can get the job done a working method does not outdate
Whoopie.
These videos are addicting to watch but they are some of the cringiest things ever 😂😂
Looked horrible 🙈
Fail, didn't deburr the pipes, teach her well.
Let me give you a lesson on " SOLDERING": pronounce the L",....... its NOT SODDER,...
L is silent
Spell it... S o l d e r i n g - soldering. It's not.... S o d e r i n g as in sodomy. There is a L in the word use it.
Spell it... K N I G H T - knight. It's not.... N i g h t as in no sun. There is a K in the word, use it.
PandaMan Kuh-Night?
Anyone else dances for the intro music?
You forgot to deburr the inside of the cut pipe. Very important.
A d forgot to start soldering from the bottom up
ream inside and out
@@danielmarquardt4341 I just thought that was a given.
3:52...The tool he's using deburs and brushes the inside and edge of the cut.
@@alexscott730 I reviewed the video and saw no such tool. Using a brush does nothing to debur the tubing.
what about deburring?
Great video! Unfortunately, every time I have needed to solder copper pipe, I have been on my back under the house with all kinds of obstructions preventing me from getting in a good position.