TOH taught me to solder over 30 years ago and I'm glad to report the 1" copper I soldered as a kid all those years ago in my Mom's house is still working fine.
They both did great. My old boss would say " Soldering is not something I can teach you, its something you have to learn". He was right. I learned more by my mistakes and watching others than anything instruction. Good first attempt though.
Your old boss obviously didn't understand the difference between tacit and explicit knowledge. You can teach anyone the theory and practice of anything. No dumb questions; only dumb teachers. Hopefully you didn't cause any structure fires learning what NOT to do the hard way.
I've learned how to solder thanks to these types of videos on youtube. She did a pretty good job for her first time. It's far from perfect but we all start somewhere. The best thing to do is to buy a couple of 1", 3/4" and 3/8" pipes and fitting, flux, wire, blowtorch and practice at home. The more you practice the better you get. I practice in my garage on my vice. The hardest part is getting the proper heat on the pipes and knowing when to lay down the solder. It gets messy but after letting it cool and sanding down the solder it comes out decent. This was a very helpful and informative video. Keep em coming TOH!
Great video! Unfortunately, every time I have needed to solder copper pipe, I have been on my back under the house with all kinds of obstructions preventing me from getting in a good position.
These are so helpful. Starting a library of useful info. These videos help keep up to speed on everything home stuff. Easy to follow and explains in detail. Great stuff. Oh by the way say hello to the best "Mr. Yankee" Norm. Great guy.
Does the solder go all the way around or do you have to bring the wire around. I want to tackle my bathroom and I do not want to use pex or shakrbite behind the wall. I suppose practice makes perfect.
How about ask this TX master plumber... It's best to apply a bit of heat to the pipe right next to the fitting first. And don't leave the heat in one spot like that again! For one, you'll burn up the fitting and make it weak. For 2, move the heat around the fitting, the solder follows the heat. For 3, if you're only soldering 2 sides of a tee, put a dummy piece in the side you aren't sweating, otherwise, you might have a hard time getting the pipe to fit correctly once you are ready to sweat it.
Looks very easy but takes a little practice. Lots of people comment on deburring. I'd suggest MAP gas and moving the flame over one side of the fitting. Tinning flux is probably a better choice for most. It usually takes a length of solder about equal to the pipe diameter, so I bend the rod at 1/2" for 1/2" pipe as a guide. Apply the solder opposite the heat source and lower on the fitting so that, when you see the solder on the heated side, you know that capillary action has filled the joint rather than gravity moving it over flux. Then wipe it down. Where permitted, use 50-50 lead solder since it has a lower melting point and is therefore easier to use. Obviously must not be used on pipes for potable water. Pex, compression fittings, etc. are very popular for good reasons.
You forgot to ream the pipe. next time put a drop cloth or something so you wont mess up that nice floor.. and one more thing the pipe was too hot to wipe down making your joint weak. other than that good video👍
It's important to remember two things: (1) always turn your torch to the max. It can't be on the low end. (2) for bigger diameter pipes you can't use small torch head.
I solder pipe roughly every 10 years or so, back in the 1980's I used 50/50 solder, then around 2000 I used 95/5, they should tell what type of solder to use to meet code. I need to solder tomorrow and I'm guessing that the 95/5 is the correct stuff. The 50/50 that I have has lead in it, bad, bad but it might be 50-60 years old. They should tell what products they use in terms of flux and solder.
No reaming plus I was taught to always solder every side of a fitting at the same time. It’s so you don’t draw the solder out of another joint when heating up the cold side. This only really matters on smaller sizes. At least 1” and smaller
It needs to be deburred for sure. If you don’t the tiniest little burr will catch deposits in the water and they will spin around in a vortex while water is flowing and erode the pipe until it is spraying out a little
The inside of the copper needs to be deburred. There is a tool with a hook end that makes deburring easy. She should of had the flame closer, and MAPP gas would have worked better than propane.
I had a really hard time today getting my solder to melt. Please make sure there is no water in your pipes when you try to do this soldering! :-) It should only take between 30 seconds and one minute to get the copper to the right temperature before the solder melts. I sat there for 10 minutes heating up the pipe and it never melted because I had some water in the pipe.
i think he should of placed the open end of thhe tee facing upwards in case she added too much solder it doesnt risk being spilled over to that area. you can see that there was already a pool of flux in that area.
Flux is not a catalyst. Soldering doesn’t require a catalyst. Flux is an acid which improves on the mechanical cleaning by ‘eating’ any remaining oxides.
Here's a short lesson for you plumbing teachers out there... Put the practice pipe in a vise so the student can't turn the pipe, but rather the pipe cutter. This will give the student an idea of the real world of pipe cutting. It will teach them how to turn the cutter around the pipe, rather than "stepping it" down the pipe.
A better way, if you have the room, is to use those new self-cutting tube cutters. You just snap it around the pipe and turn in the direction of the arrow. Easy peasy.
Too bad we can't get MAPP (methylacetylene/propadiene) gas anymore. The MAPP Pro gas now available is hotter than propane but not as hot as the real MAPP was. I wish I'd stocked up in 2008!
When soldering you want to do all 3 sides of the tee. In this case when soldering the 3rd side the solder might let loose on the other side and leak, please check out the vids i made on plumbing
Cristian Munoz he showed the right way. Heating on one side and feeding solder on the other guarantees thorough heating. Copper is an excellent heat conductor.
Julian Knödler Lead is never used with Plumbing in the U.S. If soldering pipes you must use flux for the solder to work correctly. For a home owner Crimping tools can be expensive. I don't recommend Shark bites.
TOH taught me to solder over 30 years ago and I'm glad to report the 1" copper I soldered as a kid all those years ago in my Mom's house is still working fine.
That's awesome
Let teach you how to plumbing deep plumbing lol
Taking a class, any class, from This Old House would be a dream come true!! I love these guys
They both did great. My old boss would say " Soldering is not something I can teach you, its something you have to learn". He was right. I learned more by my mistakes and watching others than anything instruction. Good first attempt though.
Your old boss obviously didn't understand the difference between tacit and explicit knowledge. You can teach anyone the theory and practice of anything. No dumb questions; only dumb teachers. Hopefully you didn't cause any structure fires learning what NOT to do the hard way.
I have to comment again; I am loving this gal with her torch and enthusiasm. So great!
I learned plumbing and electrical thanks to this old house.
Moved my washer: new water lines and electrical including a 220
I've learned how to solder thanks to these types of videos on youtube. She did a pretty good job for her first time. It's far from perfect but we all start somewhere. The best thing to do is to buy a couple of 1", 3/4" and 3/8" pipes and fitting, flux, wire, blowtorch and practice at home. The more you practice the better you get. I practice in my garage on my vice. The hardest part is getting the proper heat on the pipes and knowing when to lay down the solder. It gets messy but after letting it cool and sanding down the solder it comes out decent.
This was a very helpful and informative video. Keep em coming TOH!
damannoa solder from the bottom up to reduce dripping
Great video! Unfortunately, every time I have needed to solder copper pipe, I have been on my back under the house with all kinds of obstructions preventing me from getting in a good position.
great student with great teacher 👏😁 this is awesome
You guys are like an uncle teaching me stuff around the house. Thank you.
My first time soldering I was surprised how easy it was. I'm sure larger pipe 1 1/2" and above is a different story
You forgot to deburr the inside of the cut pipe. Very important.
A d forgot to start soldering from the bottom up
ream inside and out
@@danielmarquardt4341 I just thought that was a given.
3:52...The tool he's using deburs and brushes the inside and edge of the cut.
@@alexscott730 I reviewed the video and saw no such tool. Using a brush does nothing to debur the tubing.
Good video
These are so helpful. Starting a library of useful info. These videos help keep up to speed on everything home stuff. Easy to follow and explains in detail. Great stuff. Oh by the way say hello to the best "Mr. Yankee" Norm. Great guy.
She did quite well, it only gets better with time.
Does the solder go all the way around or do you have to bring the wire around. I want to tackle my bathroom and I do not want to use pex or shakrbite behind the wall. I suppose practice makes perfect.
Thank you for wonderful demonstration.
That's one Crème Brûlée I wouldn't want for desert.
Good job on the solder 👍
Gobi or Mojave?
How about ask this TX master plumber... It's best to apply a bit of heat to the pipe right next to the fitting first. And don't leave the heat in one spot like that again! For one, you'll burn up the fitting and make it weak. For 2, move the heat around the fitting, the solder follows the heat. For 3, if you're only soldering 2 sides of a tee, put a dummy piece in the side you aren't sweating, otherwise, you might have a hard time getting the pipe to fit correctly once you are ready to sweat it.
Tips like this are extremely helpful especially to a beginner like myself. Thanks for the insight.
Its amazing that he is a licensed plumber. First heat the pipe then move the flame to the fitting.
Great education. Please zoom in when working so we get a better view of work. Thanks
4:48 "this is awesome!"
"focus lady, stop talking, focus!"
This is the best TH-cam Chanel ever keep on coming guys!!
Chanel #5
Looks very easy but takes a little practice. Lots of people comment on deburring. I'd suggest MAP gas and moving the flame over one side of the fitting. Tinning flux is probably a better choice for most. It usually takes a length of solder about equal to the pipe diameter, so I bend the rod at 1/2" for 1/2" pipe as a guide. Apply the solder opposite the heat source and lower on the fitting so that, when you see the solder on the heated side, you know that capillary action has filled the joint rather than gravity moving it over flux. Then wipe it down.
Where permitted, use 50-50 lead solder since it has a lower melting point and is therefore easier to use.
Obviously must not be used on pipes for potable water. Pex, compression fittings, etc. are very popular for good reasons.
All you guys are great confidence makers rich is great I always use the shark bites I wish I knew if he used them ever on a job
The brush won't remove burrs, so doesn't the cut pipe have to be deburred first?
Agreed. Although the inside pipe cleaner brush could do done deburring.
I love these videos...many are so easy and explanatory even if its something I already know..
I would appreciate seeing the pro demonstrate as well, instead of only seeing the amature lady's attempt
Where is the drop cloth? Nothing like having molten solder or flux on nice wood floors.
Eric Zigler its on the floor?
@Mike M if you over solder it can cause leaks, if you use a tin and copper alloy atleast
TheOtherWhiteBread0 it’s her first time bro!!
I actually use molten solder as grout when I'm doing tile floors
These are great videos loving this channel
How to unsolder flex hose attached to a gate valve without destroying rubber gasket?
This lady has some muscles!
I know. Nothing like a physically-fit woman.
Nice but you don’t mention to use lead free solder, which is very important am I right?
Adam FPV I dont think you can buy leaded solder on a foll anymore
Adam FPV I have never seen Lead solder for plumbing on only on Electronics
@@acman0926rolls of 50/50 lead solder are still sold for non-potable and DWV applications
Best how to video! So clear and concise!
So, what's brazing if this is soldering?
You forgot to ream the pipe. next time put a drop cloth or something so you wont mess up that nice floor.. and one more thing the pipe was too hot to wipe down making your joint weak. other than that good video👍
Wiping with dry cloth is fine.
No matter how long I leave the heat on the join, can't melt the solder. How many gas bottles for 1 join ?
It's important to remember two things: (1) always turn your torch to the max. It can't be on the low end. (2) for bigger diameter pipes you can't use small torch head.
Thank you! Very helpful.
I would like to learn how to sodder (sotter?).
Ty. Curious about that prep table and solder on the floor?
Keep going guys you awesome!
Also to debur the pipe wall at the cut area.
Nice 👍
Great video!
My dad has an old soldering "gun" - is that too weak for this application in lieu of the blowtorch?
That's only good for soldering electric work
Thanks guys.
Yes.
I solder pipe roughly every 10 years or so, back in the 1980's I used 50/50 solder, then around 2000 I used 95/5, they should tell what type of solder to use to meet code. I need to solder tomorrow and I'm guessing that the 95/5 is the correct stuff. The 50/50 that I have has lead in it, bad, bad but it might be 50-60 years old. They should tell what products they use in terms of flux and solder.
Richard is an expert in soldering copper pipes.
omg I been using this tool to clean battery terminals
That jar of flux looks like it’s from the Eisenhower administration, probably time for a new one lol
No reaming plus I was taught to always solder every side of a fitting at the same time. It’s so you don’t draw the solder out of another joint when heating up the cold side. This only really matters on smaller sizes. At least 1” and smaller
Shouldn't you preheat the fittings first? Just asking
what about deburring?
I've never seen copper tube that needed deburred. Cutting small stainless lines for compression fittings I have but never residential copper.
I do that as well. Also, did it seem like an eternity for that first connection to bubble? Did she have the heat on the most optimal spot?
It needs to be deburred for sure. If you don’t the tiniest little burr will catch deposits in the water and they will spin around in a vortex while water is flowing and erode the pipe until it is spraying out a little
The inside of the copper needs to be deburred. There is a tool with a hook end that makes deburring easy. She should of had the flame closer, and MAPP gas would have worked better than propane.
2 AM totally agree. Needs to be deburred. Mapp gas works way better than propane
In the UK we have pipe slices which cut the pipe in half the time.
Sukh Singh This kind of pipe cutter is best.
Well good for you.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 it is
Stay in the groove baby
Very awesome!!
Would be nice to see it up close
Richard looks like he's teaching her while sleeping... he's a pro
I had a really hard time today getting my solder to melt. Please make sure there is no water in your pipes when you try to do this soldering! :-)
It should only take between 30 seconds and one minute to get the copper to the right temperature before the solder melts. I sat there for 10 minutes heating up the pipe and it never melted because I had some water in the pipe.
Finally something I can learn from
i think he should of placed the open end of thhe tee facing upwards in case she added too much solder it doesnt risk being spilled over to that area. you can see that there was already a pool of flux in that area.
I love this channel!
Don’t you need to debur the inside?
Fail , what about deburring copper pipe after cutting.
1:42
He used the steel brush to clean the inside.
Get more information from the video. Thank you for sharing.
Not
Why do you pronounce solder without the L and why do you not use loaded Solder fittings, cheers from Scotland
You never put flux on the inside of the fitting this can cause internal pipe corrosion even after flushing, amateurs ,soLder has a L
Much better video
It bothers me that didn't ream the inside of the pipe
Flux is not a catalyst. Soldering doesn’t require a catalyst. Flux is an acid which improves on the mechanical cleaning by ‘eating’ any remaining oxides.
Here's a short lesson for you plumbing teachers out there... Put the practice pipe in a vise so the student can't turn the pipe, but rather the pipe cutter. This will give the student an idea of the real world of pipe cutting. It will teach them how to turn the cutter around the pipe, rather than "stepping it" down the pipe.
Wow, that's a great explanation. Makes sense since in the real world you cannot turn the so called pipe around the pipe cutter.
A better way, if you have the room, is to use those new self-cutting tube cutters. You just snap it around the pipe and turn in the direction of the arrow. Easy peasy.
No flux after the solder? Man it cleans up nicely
How do we search all your videos for a specific topic?
generation next! looks like some of our old guys are retiring soon
Too bad we can't get MAPP (methylacetylene/propadiene) gas anymore. The MAPP Pro gas now available is hotter than propane but not as hot as the real MAPP was. I wish I'd stocked up in 2008!
Damned do-gooders.
Thank you for this
Flux is designed to prevent oxidatin.
When soldering you want to do all 3 sides of the tee. In this case when soldering the 3rd side the solder might let loose on the other side and leak, please check out the vids i made on plumbing
LimitzHd Solder all 3 sides of the tee at the same time. Of course you do. But it wouldn't be any fun watching a "This Old House" video if they did.
Wow amazing
Better to put heat all around the fitting so that the solder goes in all the way around other than that it's ok
Cristian Munoz he showed the right way. Heating on one side and feeding solder on the other guarantees thorough heating. Copper is an excellent heat conductor.
EclecticBuddha not really because if you put heat on just one side you can burn the flux and risk the solder not going in the whole fitting.
Cristian Munoz and you have never done this.. just watched videos about it
axtra92 lol well since im a plumber I do it a lot
Cristian Munoz dont think so
And this old ask never had that segment again lol
no deburring ?????
Did I miss the part where they debur the pipe?
Please teach me 😃
Good job
I just came to see if her first solder joint is as bad as mine was. I had dabs of solder and burnt flux all over the place
buenos videos
plomeria
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Aww Richard the great. She must have sent Rich an E mail . Ha ha
guardduck25 ?
axtra92 axtra92?
Turn the cutter around the pipe! you don't turn the pipe in the cutter.
Homepros NYC it is her first time
Id bett a hundred bucks it cuts the same
He is teaching her, so he should have told her how to cut the pipe correctly
The pipe is short so it’s easier to turn the pipe
Why does it matter
" Now make a groove."
" I have my groove on!"
" Now stay in your groove.
Eh, eh, eh, eh."
" keep twisting!"
1:23 "Here is your 6" piece"
Should use latex gloves when applying flux
Toh is awesome
Move the torch around for even heat distribution
No. He's doing it right.
deburring steps???
Debur!
Soldering water pipes is no longer allowed in Germany / Europe, why do they still solder in the US?
Julian Knödler why is that? Many homes builders in The U.S now use *Pex* .
Really? How come?
Yes Pex is new thing. Easier to install.
Because of the lead and other chemicals from the flux inside the pipes. Pex isn't a alternative, use copper crimp fittings.
Julian Knödler Lead is never used with Plumbing in the U.S. If soldering pipes you must use flux for the solder to work correctly. For a home owner Crimping tools can be expensive. I don't recommend Shark bites.
@@julianreverse no lead in lead-free solder, duh.
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you forgot to deburr it
no deburring, dirty flux, red label solder usually means solder that contains lead. Hopefully that work isn’t actually in use today.
I was hoping the cameraman would have zoomed in at the project. Good video though
Why does he never use a pipe slice
In the UK, we never flux the inside of the fitting as it pushes flux into the pipe. Also in agreement with most, that deburring is essential.
In the UK, you’ve never been to the moon. Go murica!
In the US, you don't have the most advanced engineering bases in the world (Formula 1) ;-)
Didn't the UK just start rolling out mixing valves on their sinks last month?
1950 actually ;-) c7.alamy.com/comp/EXRGM6/1950s-uk-hygena-magazine-advert-EXRGM6.jpg
SODDER !!!!!
Dont touch it!
For real looked like he was about to grab the pipe
Gotta ream the cut pipe, Richard! You know better.
Why is she spinning the pipe and not the tool?
It's her first time. Her teacher should have told her to spin tool