By the default apparently the game uses a single layer perceptron type neural nets. But seems you can change it to a more complex one. I'm not sure how much use it is, but.. with single layer, the learning is kinda limited, as in, nothing happens after some hundred or so generations no matter how far you'd keep it running. Still. The main functionality of the creations comes from their shape. So more complex nets may not be needed....
Yea. It's way superior in many ways. A lot harder to code though. Still. The amount of work they have put into this is huge already.. So maybe on some update.
Connecting muscles between the same bones multiple times will make the muscles stronger. There's a hint about it somewhere either on the page the game is on or the help menu in game. Could be useful.
when you try the wheel, you have to go rid off the middle part! Try something like a circle and connect all parts with bones, without a middle part! sorry for bad english
I tried making a wheel, and there was only 1 time I was able to get it to actually roll. But not even re-evolving the exact same being 20 more times (restarting the process, at letting it run for about 50 generations) was able to get it to repeat that... they kept wanting to scoot across the ground instead. They also seem to learn faster if you let each generation run longer (I usually do 30 seconds per generation)
Jumping the Shark: To try and innovate a TV show after it has already passed its peak by introducing irrelevant and unfitting elements. Named after a late episode in Happy Days, where the gang goes on holiday and Fonzie is waterskiing (of course still in his leather jacket) and at one point jumps over a shark using a ramp. The scene was nonsensical and was put there to offer some suspense, but it just turned out to cement the show's failure.
I got a really good Nueral network setup of 4 layers of 50 each, not sure why but it worked well for all of my creations, including my 8 legged crabbo.
You can make the others shapes not collapse (without necessarily using triangles), making possible the use of lots of shapes and not just triangle to make things stable. I didn't try for odd sided polygons, but using regular polygons with even number of sides it is enough just make it and add one bone connecting each joint to the two second nearest joints on the shape. If it is a square, the additional joints will be the diagonals, if it is six sided, it will be two triangles, if it is eight sided, it will be two squares and so on. This method is more usefull when working with really big shapes or when extra bones are needed.
sorry but its not accurate to say you can kind of tell in 20 or 30 generations. its only between 50-100 gens that you start to see significant changes. it also depends on you neural network setup and mutation rates
You should test with much higher popularion, or if your device can't handle that much then use branches. My device is not so powerful so I have experimented. I did a creature with the basic 10 popularion, and then I tested the same creature with 100 population divided to 10 branches(you can create less branches if your device has the power to hadle more creature at the same time). Surely the time gap between generation is longer this way. But this way the best creature of fourth generation of the 100 population group was better than the best crearure from the 100th generation of the 10 population group. So in the long term it is actually faster working with higher population even if you have to divide them to branches.
You can better evolve, back, evolve, back, until you have one that does what you want. They evolve from the base creatures so if those don't eve come close to what they should be doing letting them go is usually a waste of time.
Really lots of comments but so much lack off imagination, it hurts. Well i am never out of idea´s. I would like to see you wrestle with the stair climber, Make a snail or a centipede, it should be able to climb stairs.
builds a wheel, crawls. builds a shark, it rolls... logic
This deserves more likes NOW
They fly
Exactly bro
You can change complexity of neural network by clicking on the brain icon
Oh dang. I just commented how it's sad you can't do that :D I played around with this quite a while ago, so maybe it was added since then....
I love the wave effect the sharks have been doing at the end.
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By the default apparently the game uses a single layer perceptron type neural nets. But seems you can change it to a more complex one. I'm not sure how much use it is, but.. with single layer, the learning is kinda limited, as in, nothing happens after some hundred or so generations no matter how far you'd keep it running.
Still. The main functionality of the creations comes from their shape. So more complex nets may not be needed....
I really think that game should use NEAT instead of this fixed layout...
Yea. It's way superior in many ways. A lot harder to code though. Still. The amount of work they have put into this is huge already.. So maybe on some update.
Make a triangle put two legs and connect the legs to the triangle with one muscle each leg
What if you added ribcages so to speak? x still fun x
make 2 individual bones and join them with 1 muscle
i dont think that will do anything
it will, i've tried
I wish I could :C
It's free on mobile
...and on computer...
You need to put bones insid
I found your channel today, and I like this kind of content.
Blitz you are the awsome youtuber
The shark rolls more than the wheel did xD
Yo i love you gameplay vids
*I'm a new veiwer, and I subed! God bless you!*
also i like the scripture in your channel description :)
5:07 ''Dobby have to punish hisself! ;-;''
Jumping Shark. I love it! XD
for the spring one, connect the muscles horizontally not vertically
Connecting muscles between the same bones multiple times will make the muscles stronger. There's a hint about it somewhere either on the page the game is on or the help menu in game. Could be useful.
I'm like your biggest fan
Go it options and scroll down for the neural network settings
Make a cross and connect the bottom of it and the top let it run for gen 50 and it flys (also you need a little bit or muscle not to much)
100th comment not that it matters. I love your vids blitz!
Make a caterpiller
Ps love ur vids
Turn on caption and go to 6:57
They should add a swim challenge, just spawn your creature in the water and try to make it swim
By generation 50 I got a super fast frog-bunny on my own. Keep it simple!
when you try the wheel, you have to go rid off the middle part! Try something like a circle and connect all parts with bones, without a middle part! sorry for bad english
lol the "tuna fish" is like a pufferfish
Welp just another day for the Survey Corp :)
And I love your video Blitz and I subscribe to you (basically you are my god :/)
Meat wheel:*jumps*
Me:I'm out
2nd good vid blitz I love all your vids as well
So this is basically an improved version of Carykh's evolution simulator :P
fastest design i found a wheel with only outside bones and muscles inside :D 6m/s spinning movement :D
You can change the seconds on the top right of the building area
make a snake pls ;-;
*YOU DID WELL*
right when he said 40 by the he end my clock turned 11:40 LOL
I tried making a wheel, and there was only 1 time I was able to get it to actually roll. But not even re-evolving the exact same being 20 more times (restarting the process, at letting it run for about 50 generations) was able to get it to repeat that... they kept wanting to scoot across the ground instead. They also seem to learn faster if you let each generation run longer (I usually do 30 seconds per generation)
Hey Blitz do you like Starbound? Just asking
Hehe! Bouncing snakes and mice!
Jumping the Shark: To try and innovate a TV show after it has already passed its peak by introducing irrelevant and unfitting elements.
Named after a late episode in Happy Days, where the gang goes on holiday and Fonzie is waterskiing (of course still in his leather jacket) and at one point jumps over a shark using a ramp. The scene was nonsensical and was put there to offer some suspense, but it just turned out to cement the show's failure.
I just tried this last night it is so much fun
You made me jumping
I got a really good Nueral network setup of 4 layers of 50 each, not sure why but it worked well for all of my creations, including my 8 legged crabbo.
A big fan
Blitz, the creatures get stronger as you pass more generations.
Make a running cat :3
It's official, this game has jumped the shark.
you should turn your curser black or make it bigger because its hard to see when you're pointing
The main problem is you need to fill the inside with triangles, every other shape will collapse due to the joints.
You can make the others shapes not collapse (without necessarily using triangles), making possible the use of lots of shapes and not just triangle to make things stable. I didn't try for odd sided polygons, but using regular polygons with even number of sides it is enough just make it and add one bone connecting each joint to the two second nearest joints on the shape. If it is a square, the additional joints will be the diagonals, if it is six sided, it will be two triangles, if it is eight sided, it will be two squares and so on.
This method is more usefull when working with really big shapes or when extra bones are needed.
Next time make a Pixar lamp and see how it would evolve.
sorry but its not accurate to say you can kind of tell in 20 or 30 generations. its only between 50-100 gens that you start to see significant changes. it also depends on you neural network setup and mutation rates
God must be soooo good at this game
You should test with much higher popularion, or if your device can't handle that much then use branches. My device is not so powerful so I have experimented. I did a creature with the basic 10 popularion, and then I tested the same creature with 100 population divided to 10 branches(you can create less branches if your device has the power to hadle more creature at the same time). Surely the time gap between generation is longer this way. But this way the best creature of fourth generation of the 100 population group was better than the best crearure from the 100th generation of the 10 population group. So in the long term it is actually faster working with higher population even if you have to divide them to branches.
U da best blitz
YA HE IS DA BEST. YAY FOR BLITZ
Make a triangle with long strait legs and it will dance
Could u make the thing on the cover of the game it might/will work
Hm.... Interesting..... •.•
Wait longer, let it go for more generations
More like puffer fish evolution XD
Blitz when u make the circle DO NOT add muscles BUT add a LOT of bones
hey blitz, do you know entaco? he's a great youtuber along with you :)
I guess you could say this is a BONE shark.
something I did was make an upsidedown V and connect the 2 bones with muscle and it was one of the most succesfull things I've created so far :p
Does this shark smoke_ because I got the stop smoking ad
CodePearMaster lol
What happened to OCTOGEDDON?
Frost winter just cuz ur mom hates you don't take it on every one else
Increase the mutation rate, it lowers the chances that the progress will plateau.
Try to make a bird and if there isnt a fly option then try to make it go jump really high so it looks like flying.
Call the shark a puffershark
Cool
Build a starfish!!!
You should still up you time per generation, it keeps showing the next generation withing 5 sec, but it has more learningtime
You can better evolve, back, evolve, back, until you have one that does what you want. They evolve from the base creatures so if those don't eve come close to what they should be doing letting them go is usually a waste of time.
Do u twitch stream anymore?
Ha! Neat! Neuroevolution of Augmenting Topologies? Anyone?
Is this on android/ios?
He needs to put muscles on the very end of the springs
(On the side)
you should try zombie survival game, Basingstoke.
The shark is galloping
“Jumping the shark” comes from Fonzie. On the show’s decline, there was an episode in which he jumped over a shark on a jet ski. It was pretty sad
Just realized that my comment sounds like I don’t like your video. I do! Please jump silly sharks!
Please build something that gets his stability from a triangle.
Edit: A triangle with The maximum of 3 points(A, B, C)
or you can make a boney outer shell with nothing but muscles on the inside, like i did with my bouncy ball.
*MAKE PAC-MAN!!!* And maybe the ghosts too
Boston Dynamics LS3
Logic indeed🤣
Yo igp said u and dreagest hated him and he was going to rip u off by doing this on his channel
?
Ye I heard it too what's that all about?
Bahadır Kök I think they were joking?
Most defs was sarcasm
If u read the igp,s vid description. Its a joke
you should probably look at the kangaroo preset.
I JUST REALIZED HE SOUNDS LIKE MATT
this reminds me of KaryKH's evolution simulator
My best creation is just a square :P
at 2 49 RUN BROTHERS RUN
It’s a puffer Fish 🐡
I really want to say that this has nothing to do with neural network, it's just a genetic algorithm.
*_In Soviet Russia, zombies don’t eat you, you eat them._*
Wow
Treatment needed
Really lots of comments but so much lack off imagination, it hurts. Well i am never out of idea´s. I would like to see you wrestle with the stair climber, Make a snail or a centipede, it should be able to climb stairs.
Try to make an elephant please
make a big spider
Fish have bones though. . . Internal ones.He only made external bones.