Midair Collision at Reno Air Races & Missing F-35
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- (Please Subscribe!). A Marine F-35 goes missing after the pilot ejected. On the last day with the final flag at Reno Air Races, two T-6's collide during the landing phase after the race was complete. Unfortunately, both pilots perished.
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Just announced minutes after posting, the F-35 debris has been located. Im going to miss the memes.
l am SAD....But thanks for the video of news....
Old Shoe🇺🇸
I was gonna say, I'll check behind my dryer amongst all the single socks for that F-35, but if it's been found, can we work on my husband's house and store keys next?
Now, for the sad part... I'm distraught by another awful incident at the races. I watched last year as Aaron Hogue slammed into the ground in a horrible blaze, and at first I didn't even realize what I'd seen. My heart and prayers go out to the loved ones of this year's accident as well.
Looked more like an excavation project than a crash scene.
When the F-35's are parked at Oshkosh for the airshow they are guarded 24/7 by heavily armed military personnel. They look like a SWAT team and have signs displayed that say they are allowed to 'shoot as necessary'. Very scary. Yet they lose one in-flight? The transponder magically turned itself off? Yeah right.
@@pittss2c601 and maybe three separate backup systems failed. Uh huh.
Hi, Dan. We met you at the Reno Air Race on Saturday. We were right under the planes when they crashed. They ran into each other on the last pile on. The planes miraculously avoided the homes in the area. We had plane parts showering down on us. It was pretty scary. You mentioned no one was in the area, but there were homes and we were part of a group of motor homes that hang out on the fence line at the last pile on. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks for all you do!
Oh wow, did not hear that. Glad no one was hurt on the ground.
Pylon
@@tomcoryell not to pile on but yeah pylon.
@@scottmoseley5122perhaps they were using speech to text, which usually has a mistake or two
Quit lying…You’re prob part of the group that has put an end to the Reno Air Races!! 😡 FJB! 🇺🇸
I was at the races when one aircraft crashed and went into the stands; I was not hurt, but as a GA pilot myself, I was traumatized! Knowing the rules in the air, spacing, etc., it was difficult to understand how it happened. I moved (nothing to do with the accident) and am too far away to attend now, sad, because I used to attend air races regularly, but I do keep up with the air-race news so thanks, Dan, I'm sorry that happened last month at Reno. My condolences to the pilots' families.
I can't imagine witnessing that. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for the update Dan. Such a sad tragedy. My heart goes out to the families of the racers. Keep up the excellent work Dan. Safe skies my friend 🇺🇸🛩️
What a terrible thing to happen at those races. May they rest in peace.
Good video Dan. Appreciate your quickness to action with transparancy and keeping us updated.
Thanks, yeah, I’m kind of embarrassed. Sometimes I’ll make a move in chess without looking at all the different options. Same thing here, I was thinking about that sponsor today and how I wanted to help him.
Move it to Wendover, Nevada, Utah, perfect place for that event
I don’t know why everyone finds the “missing F35” so humorous. The pilot certainly does not.
You forgot to mention the 'cool-off' lap' after the race. AOPA is reporting the possibility one T6's was low in their cool off lap and collided with the other plane entering a landing downwind.
Very well could have been. New info since posting.
Sorry to hear about the missing F-35. People who race planes…. Well, sucks to be their families. Glad that unsuspecting innocent people on the ground were not hurt or killed.
"Planes cross the finish line and climb to pattern altitude, and turn the OPPOSITE way from the course to enter a downwind.."
Are you sure that is correct? Don't the planes climb and fly a cooldown in the same direction as the race and when they are ready, they enter the pattern which is also in the same direction as the race, counterclockwise?
If they did what you claim after the finishing line, they'd be entering the pattern directly after a full-on race at 50 feet, at whatever intervals they happen to cross the line in, and fly the pattern over the grandstand. Must be a mistake there?
Ya, he is wrong.
Thanks for this!!!
Wow, I watched the races up till the last T6 race and had to leave the house...So sad. RIP
Ive been going to the races since I was a kid. Was on site Friday, not yesterday due to having to work today.
Ive seen some of the worst wrecks. Hell my section of stands was pelted with pieces from the 2011 incident. yes pieces.
This wreck is just so pointless. Both of these pilots knew what they were doing. So for something to go wrong during the recovry stage is just sad.
Good morning from Minnesota. Tragic news...
Reno becoming out grown by all the warehouses and population!!
RARA did not decide to make this the last race. The Reno Tahoe Airport Authority decided that this would be the last races
Thanks for the explanation! If you have to follow the RARA rules, so be it. However, if you did have the video,, now that the Reno races are supposedly finished, it should relieve you of the obligation to not show a crash. I have a pretty good idea what happened anyway. Inattention, loss of situational awareness, etc. Only takes one mistake to cause a crash sometimes. I've had two crashes myself, so I've used up 8 of my 9 lives, if I'm a cat. Always helpful to learn from others mistakes, though.
Photo on air safety institute’s recent video
Whatever you do, bloggers, don't show the video of the mid-air collision. That way other pilots can't learn why it happened and learn from others' mistakes. (Just a bit of sarcasm)
Being official media at Reno, we’re contractually not allowed to show. Don’t have it anyway.
As of a few hours before my post, a debris field has been found in a Rural location on Carolina. Don't remember North or South.
South I believe. News broke minutes after I released this video.
Williamsburg County South Carolina. The location is about 65 or 70 miles from my house. From what the news here has said it is in thousands of little pieces.
Did anyone check the last radar position of that F-35? 😂
It’s a stealth aircraft..
R/wooosh
The pilot forgot to request flight following 🤷♂️
The transponder magically turned itself off. It happens all the time. They all do...yeah right.
@@FPVREVIEWS I know... we call that sarcasm.
Why were they on top of each other on base? This doesn't make sense.
Well that's annoying. Your thumbnail made me think you were going to show the T-6 crash footage, but you didn't. That sucks.
Where is the accident video for RENO??????
It came in under the radar.
No footage of the crash or even an explanation of known details
there are no videos of the crash? weird. theres
always someone filming
There will be one missing F-35 every week for two months. Then nothing for six months. Then the announcement that due to a tower mistake they have found eight F-35’s and it will cost America nothing to give them to Ukraine.
Sadly ironic that the two aircraft were in a normal traffic pattern situation after the race. The tower was not observing them and communicating any spacing orders?
the tower is supposed to have full control status after the race is finished.
@@davidfredrickson4107 You are wrong. The tower does NOT give landing clearance after the race.
@@ronjones-6977Ok sure its like their primary job n all dipshit.
Very sad to hear about the T-6 crash and loss of life... I guess the stealth works great on the F-35....
Air racing is dangerous. I don't think the pilots lost would have liked to have seen the remaining racers denied their chance at their gold. I raced for many years. I never would have wanted a race to be called early because of me. Let 'em Race!
I'm calling it now. Dan Gryder's video on the Reno crash will be an unhinged rant where he slanders the two dead pilots, claiming that they have a long track record of irresponsible behavior based on an "anonymous source at Reno" that he will never name and a purposeful misreading of the information in the pilot records database. The "anonymous source" will later be proven in court to be his own butt. Also, he'll call the NTSB a bunch of idiots, even thought they haven't even released a preliminary report yet.
Well said. Reckon he's salivating already.
@@jimdavis1939well as you know pilots should have situational awareness and looking for possible collision situations, keeping your head on a swivel. It’s sad that this happened, but these things do happen, and quite a few have happened these last two years.
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Hater alarm!
To be fair, the ntsb are a bunch of idiots, there is no denying that. In fact I'd add "racist idiots" to their failings.
I wish… I really wish that we would quit making the same old mistakes, and quit trying to invent new ones as well.
Condolences to all.
T-6's were introduced in 1947 (Cleveland) as the Halle Trophy, a women only event.
Had not heard about that. Interesting.
I've lived in Reno and Stead. As a matter of fact, I used to be able to watch the air shows right from my backyard, which was so close to the runway. I was there when they had the last crash when a plane went right into a large portion of the crowd.
I find it funny when the government looses an $81 million aircraft, but somehow believes that citizens are not responsible enough for gun ownership. 😂😂😂
So they didn’t have ADSB? Or transponder data or ?? This is a distraction to other news
Reno AT-6 Midair HUZZAH!
Where did you get that Snoopy shirt?
The Red Bull Air Races will be held south of Las Vegas.
And none of the influencers stopped posting happy go lucky stories the entire time at Reno. Glad to see nothing can derail the C L O U T Train
Well, we posted our stories during Reno. The accident was at the very end. And I interviewed a ton of people about good aviation subjects. I'll still be releasing those videos.
Juan Browne (Mr. Airplane Safety himself) made a video about the wreck, then promptly turned the entire comment thread into a memorial. No air safety criticism or commentary allowed. Don't want to disrupt the race fans in the middle of their big cry. "OH, WOE IS US!"
Unfortunately, it's the race fans and the racers that killed Reno. They'd rather have no races than ones where people don't kill themselves, and they proved it with their own actions. At least now they can still feel resentful and oppressed by the big mean goons at the FAA.
23 pilots and 10 spectators have been killed since the RAR began in 1964.
That doesn't include people that were prepping, testing or transporting planes to and from Reno.
Every loss is tragic. but lets face those numbers are miniscule.
More people die from shark attacks yearly than this over the span of 60 years.
You do realize that the number of persons who go into the waters off beaches every year is enormous, right? @@davidfredrickson4107
@@davidfredrickson4107 Oh.OK that makes it better.
96 men died building the Hoover Dam, so what’s your point???
You'd think for $80M that lost airplane would have GPS tracking....how absurd.
At least an AirTag . . . .
Yes,,,how about radar,,,wasn't anyone paying attention?😮....ruuut rowww
@@patmayer7222stealth, hard to see on radar
Remote tracking on a stealth aircraft? Please spare me the explanation that should not be necessary
Funny thing,... this was a Stealth plane....no signature on the scope.
No video of the actual crash at Reno?
I Like your vids but not as much after you went after Dan Gryder. Didn't seem like you.
I’m no apologist for Dan Gryder, however it does appear that Dan Millican has an ax to grind w/ DG.
Could you do an episode on the future of AVGAS and why Cessna and Piper don't seem to be jumping into diesel engines?
I have done a few on avgas. Cessna offered a diesel 172 for awhile but couldn't get enough demand and stopped making them.
You talked for almost 6 minutes and said nothing. It is a sad day when 2 accomplished pilots are lost.
HOW CAN this stuff..like the ‘Afghan Pull-Out’, NOW THIS ‘F-35’ crap..happen?? Despicable, disgusting..and WHY all this UNDER THE SAME Admin?!
For all those saying it’s the end of air racing look up Gordon Smiley crash .Indy cars still race
The difference is that in an air race crash people who are not even at the event and have accepted no risk can be killed.
Mishap? you mean the pilot decided to see what would happen if he pull the ejection handle on his perfectly functioning aircraft
Their word “mishap.”
@@TakingOff yes, I know. Because they didn't want to use the word f--kup
It's time to halt air racing in the US, take the sport online via MS flight sim. At leat the only crash you will have is maybe your CPU
But what about all the pilots who still want to race?
They'll never find it. It's a stealth aircraft. Thats kinda the point.
Dan, possibly fiction is closer to the truth. Why would a pilot eject from a jet that was not about to crash???
@NATES84
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If we are going to continue our races and airshows we must learn to accept SOME losses obviously.It's never going to be completely safe .We are flying 80 year old planes into races with sometimes limited money and not enough flight time training in them like a military pilot would get . Some of these guys are mid 60s or later in age and pulling Gs for 10 minutes will have an effect on them .I like the idea of racing but they put a P-51 into the grandstand a few years ago,a jet death last year and a B17 was cut in half at an airshow and just this weekend an italian jet was ejected from on take of and managed to hit a car killing the occupants.This is just a few reasons why this stuff should end or losses expected because they keep happening
Ummm. No Transponder???
Why would they change the location of the Reno Air Race. Unbelievable stupidity.
Is this a measure of the competence of current Marine Aviation? God I hope not.
Makes sense that you can't find a stealth aircraft.
The amount of people saying how could they not follow it on radar SMH . When ejecting the explosion from the ejection seat is suppose to drive the nose of the plane down causing it to dive into the ground . For what ever reason that didn't happen. My question is, why did the pilot bail . He was a mile from the airport at 1000 feet . The plane continued on for 60 miles on it's own .
I have over four years flying the Alaska Bush. First time was 84. I really need to tell somebody what it was like. It wasn't nice at all. In fact I believe it killed a lot of people unnecessarily.
So the jet is in Cuba
The T-6 was not have a piston engine.
The old T6 was a radial piston engine, the newer T6 is Pratt and Whitney PT6 Turbine engine .
They misplaced an F-35? Are you kidding?
Unfortunately, no.
Where’s the video
No,I haven't seen fat Amy
Sounds like maned Aircraft need remote ID............
this was sort of the epitome of the channels outro...
El Reno, was always about superior skills, but sadly often lacking in Superior Judgment.
whatever is the races future (& hopefully they do continue onwards and forwards), this did a lot to bring them to where they are today...
do not know if the sport needs their own Jim Villeneuve and crusade for safety, but it certainly is a sport whose death-rate would be unacceptable in any other modern motor-sport.... which of course goes hand in hand with the high-risk, high speed, nature that makes El-Reno what it is.
T-6s are warbirds
They are trainers.
This is much better. Sorry to be a Karen. I’m just thinking about the families.
It was a mistake on my part. Will try to more sensitive in the future. And you weren’t being a Karen. I was being an idiot.
F-35's crash at an alarming rate almost as bad as early post WW2 jets like the Meteor or the F-104G.
😢
Well, thats 1 way to sneak Ukraine a Fighter Jet
The officer better be prepared to lawyer up. Court martial status is going to arise.
ALL that talking and no real info !!!! What a waste of time !!!
Need an immediate retrofit to all F-35's of a helium filled balloon attached to a dental floss container. If another jet ends up in a swamp or lake the balloon would pop up to the surface and mark the location. This is of course assuming that the water is no deeper than 48.1 yards.
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no "old-bold-pilots."
I think with these two stories happening 12 hours apart, those pilots wanted to take a fast airplane for one last spin
Air racing has racked up an impressive body count over the years.
32 fatalites at Reno air races 1964-2023. NASCAR 20 fatalities1964-2023
It’s 24 at Reno, check it again….@@Paul1958R
What's the numbers on obesity? 😂
FJB Let's go Brandon!
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Who would be morally corrupt enough to insure this event. It has been said that these pilots were the best of the best. Doesn’t that tell you something? Also, the planes did come close to hitting RVs and homes. Deluded by passion.
"We are heartbroken. Now, let's do it again next year! YEEHAWWW!!!"
Air shows, Oshkosh, STOL drags and races are just too dangerous.
Keep your opinions to yourself.
Over 40,000 die annually in the US from car accidents.
@@ryantoomey611 To make a comparison, you would need to determine the number of hours of car driving per death versus the number of hours of air show flying per death.
every forty five minutes someone is involved in a DUI accident, but that is not dangerous and does not matter right?????
Not as dangerous as driving in downtown Chicago.
You offered little about what pilot fans desire. Sorry your friends are gone. But what the pilot public is interested in is why did it happen and how to minimize it happing again? The answer is not coming from the group it happened to. I think the answer to prevent again is oblivious.,
What? That’s what the NTSB investigation will determine. Are you really this clueless?
Refusing to fly is clearly a choice.
Not one Ill make but you do you.
The military asking the civilian world to help find one of their aircraft is embarrassing especially as pilots are supposed to know where they are at all times. This pilot has a limited career ahead of him. US tax payers paid for the damn plane let military find it. As far as RENO, obviously condolences to the family's . However how stubborn do you have to get to call this series off. How many deaths are required to drop your hubris and move on. This is insane . Good people dieing FOR WHAT? Proving they can disregard the airframe limitations modifying them without FAA approval flying beyond the envelop? These pilots could be with their families TODAY, if the organisers and pilots had any sense. How many pilots sulphide next year for the pleasure of the crowd? If your all family have a reunion, eat some BBQ and fly home.
Perhaps before you run your cockholster you learn the subject.
The T6 class is 100% stock.
I can tell you know very little about airplanes and air racing. No one was forced to race. They all made the choice to enter the race knowing the danger.
Don't give a rats ass, RENO is a killing zone, besides there is no such thing as a STOCK T6, if that's the case every part would be over 80 years old. . @davidfredrickson4107 @@davidfredrickson4107
No such thing as a stock T6 - that's like saying all their parts have to be 80 yeas old. Saying they knew the danger is like saying they died doing what they loved. and almost killed people doing it.@@utjason8
Furthermore the race was over, the checker flag had fallen, they were in the pattern to land, like what happens at any airport really.
Another case of has-been pilots in their mid-60's being allowed and even encouraged to fly recklessly, near spectators and residential areas, with absolutely no interference from the FAA.
Let us see . we can think to asses
I mean this is kinda par for the course for Reno.
Race management were told after Jimmy Leeward's crash that the races needed to fundamentally transform their planning and structure if they wanted to continue to exist. Since the average race fan hates the FAA only slightly less than prostate cancer, the decision was instead made to ignore and fight. This was absolutely the wrong decision, made by ignorant people.
This might have worked IF they had internally repaired their system so people stopped dying. They didn't. They just ran the clock out until the insurance companies finally stepped in, and then it was all over.
Reno killed Reno.