"Leave it all behind": BABYMETAL+F-Hero+Bodyslam=AWESOME! BM chat #42 with AJ Hartley and Funnytoss
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In Thai, we have an idea about controling our mind and feeling. The opening scene from those meteos was representing the destruction of your mind that has been hit by the unpleasent things which could happened at anytime in your life. It doesn't mean the physical one. The world represent in this song is your own world. Visual message in each sections give us the clues to grab the meaning.
You can see the word smiling face in the lyrics. This line reflects the cultures of Thai people when one's smile can be interpreted in many ways. That's why we have word like ยิ้มสู้. Literally means Smile(ยิ้ม) + fight(สู้). 🙂
This compound word has depth meaning. The meaning can vary from - "Hold tight" against any incoming bad situations without hesitation and/or hold back. It's like the alamo of your feeling. Or indirect meaning like "Don't give up easily".
Lyrics of this song reflects Thai culture and way of life. Embrace moement. What was, was. Be prepare but not panic for the future. It doesn't means we don't care or worry about. We do care and worry. We've just acknowledge it and let it go. Otherwise you couldn't live in peace at every each moment you're breathing because your mind running around over sth in the past you couldn't fixed or changed. Or goes out to somewhere/something in the future that doesn't happen yet. Embrace the moment is key. Enjoy life. You're lucky enough to wake up and see the sun again.
By the way, I love you guys comments and interpret the meaning of this song including critics over our boys in many aspects. Complimentary & derogatory is part of Eight Worldly Certainties. That's normal things in life. Don't hesitate to do it. They are mature enough to absorb it. Cheers !!! 🙏
I appreciate you sharing your insight. This is good information to have, thank you!
Whoops, I didn't realize I hadn't changed my name into English!
Thanks for the thoughtful comments, everyone! And special shout-out in particular to the Thai fans!
The take of Funnytoss on Budhism effect on the bodyslam part was really spotted on. When they began their journey, the lyrics were mostly about typical love and heartbeak. However as the band become more mature post 2010s, mind you the band was more than 20 y/o, the lyrics have also evolved to be more about life, inspiration, working though the hardship and humility in more philosophical ways. Some fans have even went so far as to say that when Bodyslam write song about love, it get so profound and very philosophical. Buddhism philosophy also playing big parts in their lyrics. The lyrics of Leave it all behind fits perfectly with mantra of the band. The peak of their popularlity was during 2005-2010.
I however really enjoyed both of your take on the song. Awesome VID.
Good points. THanks!
I love this song so much, it exceeded my expectations by a mile ^^ as a chronically overthinking art student, I feel like the lyrics really resonated with me so I'm glad it had English captions as well
Welcome to the realm of the over thinking artists. We have T shirts.
@@AndrewHartley Now... that was funny 😜
"Only failure is not taking action." this is golden line Prof.
"But Thailand is for better and for worse" Mr. Funnytoss understand us alot.
34:08 OMG the explanation is just phenomenal. I feel enligten.
So info and intellect. Thank a lot.
Thanks for that. Any time someone responds favorably to something even a little bit intellectual on the internet, an angel gets its wings ;) Seriously, though, much appreciated.
one thing i want to comment on is about Bodyslam. most all of us never heard about them til now. from what i understand they have been around for a long time and huge in Thailand. in the past Babymetal has picked the bands that go with them seem to be lesser name bands that Babymetal has helped get attention. here in 2019 in the northwest of the US part of the tour they had The Hu tour with them and it made them a lot of attention and they have been played a lot on US media. i know this is a F.Hero song but didn't know Bodyslam and like others now a lot more people know them. this song is so good when you realize it has three different bands, styles, genres all flowing together almost like it is made to do. i love the lyrics of this song. like all Babymetal songs, this song has so much positivity and feel good meanings.
Yep, good point. Thanks.
👍👍Awesome performance by all these artists. Thanks for this reaction. 🦊 🖖❤
This was great to watch and listen to! I loved hearing Funnytoss’ take on the Buddhism! Overall, I really enjoyed this! Thanks AJ and Funnytoss for sharing your reactions and thoughts on this great song!
Great breakdown and conversation as always. Thanks, professor and Steven.
I attended Legend-MM and had the opportunity not only to meet Steven in person, but also to share a lovely Japanese style dinner with him and another three kitsunes you probably know. It certainly was a highlight of my trip to Japan.
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Best of times.
Nice. I'm jealous.
I saw you in one of those pictures in the Fox Bar @road-runner, I hope you had fun man!
@@Hadesillo Thanks! Yeah that was great! 😁
I miss you guys already.
Loved hearing y'all's thoughts, thanks for recording this! I too have had this song on repeat; despite it not being all that heavy, there is a nostalgic quality to the sound that I'm really digging. Su sounds amazing in this and I love the harmonizing she does with the Bodyslam vocalist - I hope we get more of this whenever BABYMETAL does collabs in the future. I also think that Moa and Momo will have more parts moving forward, and this and Metali have me really looking forward to what new BABYMETAL music will sound like :)
Me too!
I watched countless reactions of this song. I saw the length of your vdo and curious how can reaction be so long. I wasn’t sure if I could finish it.
I fished. I listened to every bits. I enjoy your discussion a lot and agree with most of the points.
As Thai, I appreciate that you understand and link the song to Thai culture. I was a fan of Bodyslam even before they became Bodyslam. I also listen to many song of F. Hero. When it comes to poetry rhyme, linguistically beautiful, he is well known and the best for this.
After moving to several countries, I listen to diverse genres, languages and artists. I’m a fan of Linkin Park and get to know about Babymetal from Pa Pa Ya.
Bodyslam’s music evolved as they grow up and experience different things. Normally their songs are kind of soft(er) rock. Most of their bangers are lyrical impressive, which fall into to one of Thai music genre “Phleng phuea chiwit” (direct translation = song for life). I guess, the reason they are only famous in Thailand because of the language. Only Thai people can relate their songs to personal experience.
About this collaboration, F. Hero explains in a clip which I saw on TH-cam. He loves, respects Bodyslam a lot. He collaborated with Bodyslam before. Bodyslam also respects F. Hero. The guitarist of Bodyslam (his nickname is Yod) is a fan of Babymetal and he was in the concert that F. Hero performed with Babymetal in Japan. F. Hero always feels so grateful to Babymetal that they invited him to work with them on Pa Pa Ya. Since that time, he always wants to work with Babymetal again. He is the initiator of this collaboration and the one that linked Bodyslam with Babymetal as he loves both bands. Another important person of this project is Thitiwat Rongtong. (Nickname = Mac)He is a member of Thai metal band “the darkest romance.” He and F. Hero have been working together in several project.
Thanks for this. Yes, my sense listening to Bodyslam was that their power lay in their specifically Thai take on the rock sound, particularly lyrically, which is why I felt like I was missing something as a westerner simply responding to the music. I should have expressed that more clearly in the video. Appreciate the comment.
@@AndrewHartley Just to add on…Toon the vocalist took sometime as career break to do some charity projects. One of the legendary project is “Kao Kon La Kao” (= one step each). He ran from the southern most to the northern most of Thailand for fund raising. The donated money was distributed to many hospital around the country. His bandmade also supported him a lot, some of them also ran with him but only few completed the whole route.
If you can find some clips, you will see that this band inspired a lot of young generation. Whenever he passed the school, there will be school band play Bodyslam song, sometimes he jammed with the kids. The epic song that became OST of that charity project is “Sang Sud Tai” (the last light).
For F. Hero (Nickname Golf), Thai language is his strength but somehow he manages to collaborate with artists from several countries Thai (countless), Japan (not only Babymetal), Korea, Cambodia, Laos. His genre may not your cup of tea. Thanks to Pa Pa Ya that’s why we have great song to listen. I added to my running playlist, so cool, so energized. 😅
@@pimsain Good to know. Thank you!
Thanks for the insight, it's particularly nice to have Thai people commenting, and to hear that my impression of the country and culture (only been there once, unfortunately) isn't*too* far off!
I enjoyed that, as usual, great insight into this song . There is a lot to think about 🤔
Just a little idea from me ( that's dangerous 🤣)
I thought of the Trilogy of Lights !
F Hero the anger of what he has lost . BodySlam the saddness and coming to terms and BabyMetal 😁 with the sun behind them, and they are all bright and shiny hope for the future and with Su's smile that makes me happy ❤
See what I mean me thinking is dangerous 🤣🤘🏼🦊🤘🏼
I feel that this has Babymetal's finger prints are all over the overall sound, particularly the break down section. Additionally I think Babymetal's choreography is particularly sharp and show a few new variation moves, particularly Su solo moves. Su is a national treasure.
agreed
If you heard bodyslam before you will know the sound of them is this the snare drum sound drum fill ,guitar sound or guitar solo ,synth etc. is bodyslam but some technical and pattern in this song they play for babymetal too because this is collab song
btw sorry for my eng. 😅
@@imwasher3812good points. Thanks!
"Yord" (ยอด) , The Bodyslam's Guitarist is a big fan of Babymetal.
This is the cause of you feel break down section like Babymetal fingerprint.
I would say it's more specificaly it's from the genius mind of Koba-Metal.
An interesting and fun discussion. Some really great points on the meta significance of the song and production. Thanks.
It seems to me that the recording was not done with everyone together in the studio. My too sensitive ear tells me there would have been a better pitch match on the octave harmony between Su- and Toon on at least one note had they actually been able to hear each other. But sometimes isolation of headphones or recording booths can also create that. Nonetheless, it was really great to hear them singing together.
Everyone's mentioning how cute Su- is being. But, OMG, the sound of Su-'s voice!
Totally agree on the vocal quality. Superb.
Thanks to both of you for your interesting thoughts and conversation. I do think they got the balance between the three artists about as good as was possible.
It's like Su once said All things are possible through Babymetal. 3 different styles singing a comprehensive song that works great is amazing. I really hope that Babymetals next album is a collection of collaborations at this level. Metal! and this song are fantastic. It's like you said in someways this kind of blend of genres is what Babymetal does. And they hooked us into the never-ending question of what will they do next? I don't know but I think they're a lot of people here for it.
Well said!
excellent content Andrew-Metal, Professor of BABYMETAL theory and Steven-Metal the FunnyToss translator of the golden words of BABYMETAL, awesome conversation guys.
Our pleasure!
Very interesting breakdown as always! I think they did an amazing job, giving all three artists an equal part of the song (one could argue that F. Hero fell a bit short ,but I think his harsh vocals added a lot).
This could easily been a Babymetal song IMO but making it the song of a rather unknown artists gives them a chance to shine and take the credits which shows how much respect all three artists have for each other.
Su in particular seems a lot more kawaii in this song which I appreciate a lot.
Thanks!
Thanks for your insights ! Maybe it's more than a collaboration, it's a coalition. Whatever it's powerful.
Nice distinction :)
"Good Man" says Professor Hartley, while not being jealous at all of Steven being at Legend MM 🤣
Ha!
I again appreciate your video ありがとうございます 💛 from Japan for the analysis with funnytoss this time. I was very happy to see funnytoss in person finally in Japan. In addition, he made a pertinent comment on the feature of songs created by/with BABYMETAL: "It's fun to speculate".
I am speculating that BABYMETAL have been going on two kinds of journey : (1) journey to repay favors (恩返し) (2) journey to take on a new challenge.
Speaking of (1), they started with tour with Sabaton. “Oh! Majinai” is a song representing a bright or even hilarious side of BABYMETAL after that Dark Side era. BABYMETAL must have appreciate the appearance of Joakim as a comical character that is totally opposite to his own.
BABYMETAL performed “Kingslayer” with BMTH on stage. This song was a kind of savior to them in an inactive COVID period. BMTH have continued to perform this song without BM’s intervention even in their hiatus period.
When it comes to (2), “Metali!” with Tom Morello and “The End” with Lil Uzi Vert are good examples.
The new song “Leave It All Behind” is a mixture of (1) and (2) in my speculation. F. Hero is a great contributor with his energetic figure in PA PA YA!! that shed a glaring light to the post-Dark Side era. And collaboration with BODYSLAM will newly enlarge BABYMETAL world musically and commercially (including Asian market).
I, of course, love the juxtaposition of heaviness and clearness in this song that are both positive and encouraging.
Great points (as ever). Thank you! Sorry I missed the Fox God Metal Bar meeting this time!
Great insights as always... also from FunnyToss.... thanks to you both
This song had a bit of an Amaranthe vibe having the three vocalists. Especially when the guy from Body Slam and Su harmonized
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Thanks for the great conversation. I’ll add just a note on the choreography. BABYMETAL made an overt choreographic reference to Sue’s hometown musical heroes PERFUME - at approx 18:59 - 19:00 in your video, the move where they bring both hands/arms to their chest and away, and back a couple of times - that’s a signature move from PERFUME’s choreography of their song EDGE. The move comes when the subtitles read: “GET BACK, dancing girl, burning soul.” I’m sure you know both PERFUME and BABYMETAL share a choreographer. And BABYMETAL has definitely taken production cues from PERFUME who are the cutting edge in technology production in large venues. Going to see them AGAIN in San Francisco soon. Lucky me.
Good spot. Thanks!
Like SU-METAL said: "Don't think, feel"
You could almost make the case for 4 artists. F.hero, Babyslam, Su, Moa and Momo. It's great they gave everyone time to shine in this MV.
Today is my birthday!! As Shakespeare once said beware beware the ides of march!! 😂
Oh, man, don't get me started. Have been working on that play off and on for 15 years... :) Happy birthday!
Outstanding video as I figured it would be! Hey Funnytoss that's a nice shirt 😁
I wonder where he got such a great shirt that wasn't available on the Asia tour? :)
This is the Ttrinity you say!!
Thank you form Japan,
Totally agree. Please be aware that Su is intensionally smiling at 12:59 because of the lyrics as well as of her embodiment of the image of Thailand as "the Land of Smiles." We can feel their respect to Thailand and Thai artists through local interviews: th-cam.com/video/mkt2pn5b_j8/w-d-xo.html
Good point. Thanks.
The only review that matters..... actually Bodyslams older music was hard rock then they went threw an acoustic phase and from what I read even an Electronica phase. There latest song is really good and it's kinda Pop Rock. This collab they went really hard
Will check out more of their stuff.
About time 🤣
Didn't disappoint :)
Thank you so much for the deep-dive collaborative review (w/Steven "funnytoss") into the BM/F.Hero/Bodyslam collaboration on the new song "Leave It All Behind". I knew that I really liked this song and now it's clearer as to why I do! 😁
I'll drink to that.
Hey, it's Mr. Fuzzytoss! 🤗✨
*The under utilization of Babymetal collabs was strongly influenced on how all that was done. I'd say except Pa Pa Ya and Oh Majinai it was just bands that Koba liked and he contacted them by email and they sent a piece back to Japan, but there is not really a friendship relationship between the bands. one that we see them having with F.Hero or Bring me the Horizon.
*The ship evokes me images from the drying of Aral Sea, some kind of human made desolation. I don't think there is a deeper meaning than finding an image that provokes a desolation emotion for visual impact in there.
*I don't know where I read that the Bodyslam guitar player is a Babymetal fan. They don't do that kind of sound, but in that little solo section he must have seen his chance to unleash something he can't do with the rock band.
Yeah, I've not seen that guitarist do that before. He must have had fun :)
Su harmonized with Rob Halford for Painkiller and Breaking the law, and in 2013 she collabed with the JAM project - no video exists, and she appeared as Su-metal without Yui and Moa. th-cam.com/video/IXf8g4jTEAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v5OFNJG-5kGQrRLR The song for all F. Hero was under utilized, was produced by F. Hero so it has to be his choice. I felt as I considered the song, that Babymetal has a large international footprint, compared to Bodyslam and F. Hero, and that Babymetal was given a boost early on by artists like Lady Gaga who brought them on tour, and several others, and in a way, this is Babymetal giving back, and that's something I respect.
Yeah, I think Funnytoss was talking about actual studio recordings rather than a live show as with Halford, but the point is a good one. Good point also about BM sharing the spotlight with lesser known (internationally) acts.
@@AndrewHartley Well by the studio recording standard, then Joakim Broden would be the first wouldn't he?
great analysis (as always) - the MV a musical and visual rollercoaster plus new facets of Babymetal. I actually do like the vocal sound of Bodyslam, the pitched down timbre renders it kind of 'vulnerable' which I rarely hear in western music.
I like that idea.
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Thank you!
It's always interesting for me to hear you two talk with each other about my specific favorite things, thank you.
I thought this was a very carefully elaborated work by all the participants from both countries and also thoughtfully prepared to spread their message to the people worldwide not limited to SEA.
Though adopted and presented in slightly different ways in our daily lives, Buddhism is what people of both countries commonly have in spirits. Behind the positive attitude of this song, I felt a sense of resilience by accepting the impermanence of life.
Now I'm curious about how this song will be accepted and spread over, especially by the young generation in Asian countries.
Totally agree. And yes, I hope the song catches fire all over SEA
Yes, in hindsight I think I may have unintentionally downplayed the influence of Buddhism on Japanese culture as well!
I think the main point was that it's not very Buddhist *in comparison to Thailand* (which is sort of the exception), but there are definitely aspects of life (good or bad), such as impermanence that are distinctly Buddhist influenced
@@funnytoss I know you knew it.😉
Originally, we had myriads of deities (八百万の神) and always felt their presence in our everyday lives to protect us from disasters. Buddhism came into our lives afterward and syncretism (神仏習合) happened. We have various religious beliefs, and I identify myself as a Buddhist.
BTW, that smile of Su made me think of the merciful Kannon Bodhisattva (観音菩薩).😌
@@Capable-ParamedicYes, I think it is rather fascinating how the broader Shinto concepts of "gods being in everything and everywhere" can connect/blend with the Buddhist concept of 眾生皆有仏性 in a sense
@funnytoss Yes, that resemblance is quite interesting.
btw, I belong to the religious sect called 浄土真宗 and impressed by the idea of 悪人正機.
This is the feature of badyslam It's about composing songs that make life better.
Thanks! That makes them a good pairing with BM.
Good Talkthrough! (like game-walkthrough), thank you very much! This song just came out as I had to help someone move out of their home and sort out belongings the person had to leave behind or throw away. It helped a lot. This and Marie Kondos advice to say "thank you for the time and service" to the belongings when we have to leave them.
Nice. The Kondo thanks to used objects derives from the animism found in Shintoism.
A ray of dazzling light shining into a world that had been shut in darkness,
It is the descent of the incarnation of the Sun Goddess,
Then the Smiling Angelic dance begins, their surroundings are brightly illuminated,
and like the dawn, the world of light begins to come to life once again,
At last the Sun Goddess appears, and throws a luminous smile,
The time has come to save this planet's dark and gloomy future by filling it with light,
Now, will this concept spread like a wave of light around the world?
Luv MoMo's dance moves! MoMo A-GoGo!
The kind of analogy or metaphor that came to mind for me in hearing this was kind of three people having a conversation. I was struck by the degree to which each band is there doing what they ACTUALLY DO, particularly since I have found BM's participation in other people's songs (Kingslayer, The End) to be less what they actually do and more just what people (who don't know them) THINK they do. In LIAB, it's different, BM appears at first in shallow cheerleader mode but then pretty soon it winds up being BABYMETAL doing BABYMETAL. And I do feel that the song's overall structure is part of what BM contributed, so even that cheerleader mode into F.HERO's heavier part switch is arguably BABYMETAL as well. The thing that I wanted to mention though is that it's not just that each gets to do their own thing-I think they each try taking on the others' point of view a little, that's why it felt kind of conversational. The reason we don't hear Bodyslam doing this kind of stuff in their back catalog is that it isn't Bodyslam doing Bodyslam, it's Bodyslam doing Bodyslam-ized BABYMETAL. The "BBM" part could be seen as BABYMETAL-ized F.HERO. They're putting their own band's personalities in there, but also I'd say doing a little of their spin on the others'. And everything overlaps, they blend to the point that they reinforce each other. I'm really very impressed with how balanced and intergrated and well-crafted the whole endeavor is. Anyway. TED talk done.
That's fair
Great job you 2👊🏽⚡️ I think Babymetal since ‘Metal Galaxy’ are the most American band in the world. They are the true, ‘Melting pot’ of music. 🦊🤘🏾
Interesting.
You mentioned 80s pop and growls as two main ingredients of the song. I agree and think it's time to bring in Electric Callboy.
Electric Callboy is a German band that fusions these two genres, switching seam- and effortlessly between them. To achieve this, they have two vocalists: Nico for Europop and Kevin does the deathgrowls. They are also extremely funny. Two years ago, they blew up on the reaction channels and are currently selling out venues in the 10,000+ range.
Am I just bragging about some guys from my town who made it big? Could be, but for some other things:
Last summer there was talk about Babymetal watching Electric Callboy's gig in Boston. The photo that has been floated as evidence is too low quality to prove anything, but if authentic would suggest that BM was backstage, i.e. the two bands probably met.
According to Babymetal, EC is going to play at Fox Fest in April. The only other band to be announced for that lineup to date is Polyphia, of course a former Babymetal collaborator. Ever since that info dropped, I have had fantasies about a collaboration on stage.
And now Babymetal appears in a collab that is working along similar stylistic ideas. I have no idea how this will play out, but get the feeling that some sort of bigger picture might be evolving right in front of our eyes. Maybe you should chat with Funnytoss after FoxFest to get a first hand account. If you want to check out Electric Callboy yourself, I suggest the MVs of "Pump It Better" and "We've got The Moves".
I agree with all your comments regarding the song, especially the guitar solo being too short. It began, it was fast it was mean, and just as I had taken a deep breath and was ready to soar, it was already over. I felt betrayed, abused and lied to. Otherwise, this track is a total banger.
As always, professor, thanks a lot for bringing in Funnytoss and sharing this in depth and educated conversation. The remarks about the importance of such projects for the Thai culture were especially enlightning.
I'll check them out. "I felt betrayed, abused and lied to" Ha! :) . Thanks!
Always great to see an analysis from you, and some lovely contributions from Funnytoss! Great insight about the connection to Buddhist culture - I thought "both your joy and sadness, leave it all behind," was a strange message before but now I see how it makes sense. It's not about never feeling anything, it's about moving forward always. I think the way Bodyslam and BABYMETAL are given such a spotlight shows a great deal of respect from F.HERO. As someone primarily here for BABYMETAL, I thought the performance from Bodyslam's vocalist, Toon, was very good and soothing, which contrasts well with Su-Metal's voice. It was a happy surprise to get distinct parts for Moa-Metal and Momo-Metal. Time to go listen on repeat for another few hours!
Totally agree on the way the voices complement each other. Thanks!
eyy thats the babyklok shirt i got too im so glad i actually finally went to see them live...its only been like 10 years of listening to them lmao
bodyslam live in kraam
"F hero gave moa and momo more lines than she had throughout metal galaxy" , totally agreed.
Excellent talk and analysis. You are both incredible. This is my first time commenting, so I wanted to thank you, Professor, for all your videos about Babymetal and your knowledge. I really liked this collaboration, for me, the meteorites that collide with the planet at the beginning of the video are a metaphor for the tears shed in the past (they are like a symbol of pain) that destroy/flood everything in their path. So we must leave them behind. 😅
I really appreciate that, thanks. This is a pretty small channel, so it's always good to hear from peopler who have got something out of what I've been doing over the last 3.5 years or so :)
I enjoyed the song enormously & all played their part but I’m an unashamedly biased BABYMETAL fan & it’s them I want to talk about. I too noticed the “kawaii” elements were strong here in the video. All three leaning heavily into it too. Good to hear Momo & especially Moa getting much more to do vocally than we’ve been accustomed to recently. As for Su, as usual she stole the show for me . I read someone say it’s like Suzuka is cosplaying as SU-METAL & I totally get that but those vocals - that voice- is like a warm hug every time. She’s sheer class. Anyway thanks for the video always fun to hear your opinions .
Yeah, a number of people have commented over the last year or so about how the Suzuka-SuMetal distinction is less absolute than it used to be, or that the persona has shifted, expanded or become more fluid and is now looser and closer to her actual personality.
Thank you Professor for another great breakdown! I have had this song on repeat the past two days now and it’s already been bringing me to tears. At this point I am still in a “don’t think feel” mode so I really don’t have my thoughts on this song collected in any coherent way yet: because of this I just took notes at certain points in this video and decided to share them.
The discussion about the number “5” is a mystery for sure, and I suspect Metalverse may have something to do with it. But I think if it is a reference, it’s to the lore of Metalverse and not the idol group itself. I suspect (based on interviews) that Metalverse as a concept is one of those things in Babymetal lore that is extremely vague for a reason and does have a deeper meaning and addresses something that is happening in real life, and it may be something philosophical in nature that these artists are in line with. Just my opinion. I think so much of this is still up to the interpretation of what the future holds.
Your statement about Bodyslam being “classic rock not by age but classic rock by design” I think is a much more common thing when it comes to rock and metal in the East Asian scene. Even bands like Maximum the Hormone and Nemophila give me 90s vibes with some of their music and it’s almost like rock and metal music is suspended in time over there.
Yeah, Moa and Momo’s “Yo! Do it Do it Now!” part was probably one of the cutest things I have heard from Babymetal ngl.
The Thailand representation discussion really makes me think about how this song was initially advertised as “making history.” Based on interviews with Koba, I truly do believe Babymetal’s aim is to unite the music scene across the globe, and I believe they are capable of doing it.
Like you, to me the #1 thing about Babymetal that I have always loved is their all-or-nothing approach to try new things and experiment. I don’t think there is any other popular band in the global scene capable of doing what they are doing with such a probability for success and a track record to prove it.
I think a lot of people wanted the guitar solo extended a bit longer, but no song is perfect, and I think that would have made the song too “perfect.” A part of good song writing I think is you want to leave people hungry for just a little more.
The points made about Buddhism I think resonate with me pretty strongly about my journey with Babymetal. BM has helped me learn more about how to enjoy music while living with ADHD; and when and where to put my attention at a given time has a worlds difference in how it impacts me.
Also RIP Toriyama, Akira
Nice. Thanks for all that. My instinct is that you are right about the East Asian music scene re.the classic rock sound, but I'm not an expert.
Every word that F. hero says in the song is a poem that he composed.
I watched a young Thai girl who is a reactor react to this track. She burst into tears when Su sang in Thai! So yeah - it matters.
in thailand we call relationship between lover is ship so when they broken that can symbol by ship wreck .TITANIC is greatest ship wreck in The World.
Cool. Thanks!
Another great discussion. When I first heard this song I thought, meh! It didn't really float my boat. I didn't listen to the song again for a day and when I did, I couldn't believe that I didn't love it the first time around. I agree both you and Steven about each of the performers getting a fairly equal amount of exposure, I do disagree a little with the seamless way the song is stitched together. I feel it is in three quite distinct styles which in my mind might be an indicator that the song was recorded separately and edited and mixed by sound engineers.
It doesn't really matter which way it came together; the song is a banger and is on high rotation for me at the moment. I am also turning my thoughts to what could happen on Fox Day. I'm sure something will be announced, I hope it's a new album. I wonder if we have just been given the first single from studio album 5? Not long to wait, so all will be revealed soon.
Yeah, I did 't mean to suggest that it doesn't have distinct parts: clearly it does. I just think they are really well conceived as parts of a unified whole. As to this being a single off the new album, my guess is probably not, unless they change the way they identify songs like this, since it seems to be primarily an F Hero product. I'd be happy to be wrong about that, not least because if BM claim it as their own, there's a higher likelihood of it getting played live. Cheers!
@@AndrewHartley I agree that it's unlikely to be a first single of a new album, but F. Hero and Babymetal are trixy; the identification of it as a F. Hero song could be a clever ruse.
I also get the feel that Babymetal's songwriters had a hand in BM's and Bodyslam's parts as there are a couple of 'running' references in there, Babymetal have running (used in an odd way) as a recurring word in a couple of songs. The two running references in the song are a little clumsy, or odd, in their use as well. So, if BM's songwriters had a joint role in writing parts of the song, it could legitimately be used as a track on an album. They have had colabs on albums before.
However, you are right, it is very unlikely.
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I listened to this song and I either liked it or I didn't, that's enough for me. And I liked it.
I have not listened to all kinds of music in the world and I am not a music expert. So I have no knowledge to guess how this music was produced that way. So I don't show much interest in such things. And I don't want to be a know-it-all.
However, I thought the composition of the song made good use of the characteristics of the three artists. That's what makes it pleasant to listen to. It's not just BM outstands among them, but the backing BODYSLAM playing and the lead vocal's choruses are very consistent. F Hero's rapping is as strong as ever, and the vocal exchange with Su- is a nice touch. I can see some people points that the heavy part from the breakdown are short, ha. That is what we call an extravagant request. I am sure it will be a bit longer live, haha. Well, let's hope they give a chance to perform it live.
Watching the many of reaction videos for BM, Western reactors often say the music as 'this reminds me of / sounds like who's music'. Well, I try not to take it too seriously and I've never said below things before, so I dare to say it, but I wonder if it has still some underlying awareness that 'metal is for western, especially white, thing', or 'rock and pop music originated in the West, and your music is just an ape imitation of ours'... I am sorry, it was too much to say.
On the other hand, there is a phenomenon where Japanese music, Japanese metal, etc., they are beginning to attract interest in parts of the world. According to the fans, they say the music that sings in Japanese and contains Japanese elements, those are new. But conversely, if it is closer to Western music, they instantly lose interest. Well, I understand it, but I think they could broaden our horizons a bit more...No, I can't easily blame them because I also have narrow perspectives. It's difficult, isn't it?, haha.
I often hear comments on foreign BM reaction videos too, that 'I don't know what they are singing about, but it's kind of good'. A lot of this song is in Thai, so it is exactly the situation for me, but it's a pleasant listen. Well, when I read the English translation of F Hero's rap part, I think it is too simple and a bit boring, ha. But that's an extra request of mine. Why don't we just genuinely enjoy what kind of music different countries and different races play, without thinking too hard?, I think. Because the internet has made music from all over the world accessible and easy to listen to. Is the internet really making people happier... From Japan.
I agree that listeners have their own biases, some of which are shaped by their culture, but I would argue that we break those biases down by reflecting on them, not by not thinking 😊 I also agree that western fans sometimes try to put BM (and other bands from Japan) in a particular kind of Japanese box which is constraining and does not allow evolution or experimentation. I think this is also a cultural bias rooted in what is sometimes called Orientalism. I try to oppose it when I see it.
@@AndrewHartley Thank you, sensei. 'Orientalism', it is an idea (can I call it an idea?) that was a distant cause of the World War Second, especially the war between the US and Japan, I have ever heard of it.
My thoughts on this song were still not quite formed. I feel sorry for writing a long, rambling comment of mine in such a state. it has also the problem of my English language skills (listening / writing without a software). I would like to get more information / clues to organize my thoughts about the song after this. 😀
@@minamihideki7123 No need to be embarrassed. I totally understood what you were saying and think it a good point. I’m wary of invoking unconscious racism in fan discourse but there used to be certainly some ethnocentrism even among the most well meaning fans and commentators. We cannot escape our respective cultures, after all, but when we are alert to that kind of bias in our own thought processes, we can try to rethink and change.
@@AndrewHartley 'We cannot escape our respective cultures, after all'. I totally agree with it. I am actually not a liberal, but rather a conservative in Japan. But it was different when I was younger, haha. I have no objection to mutual understanding and peace in the world, but on the other hand, I am cautious about 'globalization' in some political or economic sense. I imagine it is something like aiming for a soft landing based on 'cultural relativism'... I also imagine it will be a very difficult road, seeing the reality, but maybe we can use this kind of cultural power like BM to change the situation little by little. 😄
'ethnocentrism', I will learn it. 😀
@@minamihideki7123 I understand. Also, my father in law is descended from 西鄕 隆盛. He may have agreed with you :)
Pom rak Thai, BM Rocks Thailand
I hope we see more Moa and Momo vocal parts, and I think we will despite what some fans think I believe Koba does try to give us what we want when we speak with one voice and the fan base has been calling for this to happen for some time now. They harmonise so well together Momo is slightly higher pitched than Moa and that sounds so good.
Yeah, I agree that the band/Koba are more alert to fan desire than they are sometimes given credit for, though part of their special genius is in sometimes coming up with stuff we didn't know we wanted :)
I always feel that way when they release a new song, surprised in a good way@@AndrewHartley
Great to see Funnytoss in real life and thanks for all the work for the community.
I agree with you that this could easily have been on "Metal Galaxy", but unfortunately that album is one that I've never warmed to and this collaboration leaves me a bit cold. I loved Su being allowed to smile like in the old Sakura Gakuin days, but the song itself sounds bland to my ears and the processing on Moa's and Momo's voices in parts is very off putting. It's good that they are getting some lines to sing though and I hope that continues. I wish BM would back away from the collaborations and develop on the styles and themes of The Other One which I though was a promising new direction.
I mean, if we've learned anything from BM it's to expect the unexpected. Keep the faith ;)
I have a friend who is lapsed Catholic, but I’m a ways from a lapsed kitsune yet. Just put me in the questioning column.
Well I am not sure if you can guess from tjhis song how will develop in the future. In my private opinion F. Hero simply saw BMTH Kingslayer and he thought I can do this better.So he needed A rather Hard but finetunable voice to counter Su, since he worked with them he probaly had a part of their contact Informations. And since they are extremly famous and one of their guitarists is a well known Babymetal Fan he probably had no worries with the Management they are normally worried that an unknown Band Profits to much from a bigger Partner Amuse had probably no problem with Bodyslam.. And he didn't had a simple Counterpoint due to the basic voices but they sang in Harmony. I would guess F. Hero Was in reality the spider in the net who Held the connections since all groups had their Produktion parts involved.
Interesting. Thanks!
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I can understand Stevens point on Babymetals own colabs, but watching this and every one's input it will be hard to do live. F hero would be standing idle half the time on a live performance of this, Babymetals colabs have given them a way to at least perform the songs still much like Bring me the horizon did with king slayer.
They could maybe do it with projection (like Papaya)?
@@AndrewHartley Maybe he could put a video up on screen, and in papaya his recorded part wasn't to long and the girls are dancing as well. Unless he is going to take up dancing I don't think it would work as well live. I only say this as you won't be seeing this at Babymetal concerts much like kingslayer. But if a clip ever shows up online of a live performance of his, it would be interesting to see how he approaches it.
@@dangermouseuk78 agreed. I’d love to see it live
A very interesting conversation. Kobametal wants to break into the Thai market, and F Hero and Bodyslam want to break into the Japanese market: no prize for guessing which of the three is going to be the most successful at that! Personally, I grew bored with this song after only a few replays. It's not a patch on Kingslayer. Its banger moments are too few and too brief and sound dissasociated from the rest of the song. IMHO, the song would have been much better without Bodyslam, and with the Kami Band.
I love babymetal but I not sure I like this track. To much going on.
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