Top 5 Races We May Not See In Total War Warhammer

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  • @Darkside-tr3sx
    @Darkside-tr3sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    The Warden and the Paunch trailer is out guys. It releases on May 21st.

  • @charleswinters9567
    @charleswinters9567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    I think factions like Albion, Halflings, Amazons, Kurgans and Araby can work similar to Empire's state troops. Once you capture their province, you gain access to some of their units.

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Not a bad idea! Minor factions such as these could still see some form of representation in the game!

    • @charleswinters9567
      @charleswinters9567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@TheGreatBookofGrudges Don't know how they would fit into custom/multiplayer games though. Perhaps they could fall under Dogs of War.

    • @captainmcnugget606
      @captainmcnugget606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That is an awesome idea!
      Would love to conquer the moot and getting access to some halfling units with empire colours.

    • @AlanGChenery
      @AlanGChenery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@charleswinters9567 With dogs if war by the book getting token units from lots of these minor factions (halfling rangers for instance) it would make a lot of sense for a sort of meta-faction which adds one or two troops to lots of factions, but also gets its own unique versions of them.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheGreatBookofGrudges I would love the see at least the Halfling Hot Pot arty as a unique unit able to be build from a special building in The Moot.
      They could also include the Halfling Archers as basically Chameleon Skinks without poison damage, skirmisher missile infantry with stealth.

  • @jackback70
    @jackback70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    "The Amazons of Lustria" sounds like an 80s porn title

    • @absolutelyyousless7605
      @absolutelyyousless7605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JaggyShark You mean it isn’t?

    • @kagetoshin9761
      @kagetoshin9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the amazons will be nice to add in markus units. As mercenaries

  • @Scorpion122178
    @Scorpion122178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    -Make the Moot have a specific building for empire that lets them recruit some halfling units.
    -Make the Kurgan a sub-faction of Warriors of Chaos
    -Hobgoblins should be mixed with Chaos Dwarfs
    - Include Amazons in the Dogs of War roster
    honestly the snakemen seemed like the most interesting thing there.

    • @MRMOOSE-mr1rw
      @MRMOOSE-mr1rw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same I'm sooo interested in the snakemen

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed! Snakemen for TWH3!

  • @_Meriwether
    @_Meriwether 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Halflings were also the "joke" of Blood Bowl, but that didn't stop me winning a regional tournament with them.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I remember we had a league where we let a guy run a 'pro Halfling' Team. It was a custom roster, we did that sometimes for tabletop to make things fun. Had no Tree's so it was all Halflings and had positionals like Runners and Thieves. Thieves started with strip ball and sure hands i believe and then the 'Runners' had Fend and Side Step. Super annoying.

    • @alphanoodle1877
      @alphanoodle1877 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hhhhooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww

    • @_Meriwether
      @_Meriwether 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphanoodle1877 Four Treemen, fortunate skill doubles for two Guard players, lots of Dirty Players, and a _lot_ of Blood Bowl experience.

    • @CFkatehudson
      @CFkatehudson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My team went .500 thanks to some lucky hanlfling tosses

  • @craigrobb3206
    @craigrobb3206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Glad to see quite a few already exist in the OVN Lost factions mod which has gathered quite a following now

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I've checked it out it's quite the fun mod!

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I hope we seen Gnomes someday. They use Death Magic.

    • @TheUlquiorraCifer
      @TheUlquiorraCifer ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully they can bring us Pygmies as they were in the 80s.

  • @stevenbell7837
    @stevenbell7837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    looking at those Pygmy models I think there may be a good reason they disappeared 🤣

    • @michaelpetrovich5353
      @michaelpetrovich5353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      I am not a PC person but even i think that its a good idea that they disappeare.

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      GW back in the day were a little less... subtle with some things yeah! 😂

    • @casbah2075
      @casbah2075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      The Great Book of Grudges
      Probably for the best if they try bury this on for awhile.
      Not gonna lie, I think they could be brought back later but they would need a major overhaul to help distant there unsettling inspiration.
      Seeing a tribal Africa inspired faction that is respectful to the group it is taking inspiration from would be cool.

    • @dismas8884
      @dismas8884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ooga booga, tribe leader ded.

    • @calimerohnir3311
      @calimerohnir3311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@casbah2075 Instead of pigmies, maybe a faction based around Shaka Zulu as an inspiration? But even that would be towing the line of poor taste... Something stylized after the Mali empire of Mansa Musa wouldn't draw of ire of the SJW types as much, but I don't think such a faction would bring anything interesting to either the tabletop or Total War...

  • @ElCalvazo
    @ElCalvazo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    "A race pack usually involves at least 4 LL and 4 different starting positions"
    *Laughs in wood elvish*

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Next to chaos it's probably the most underwhelming pack and boring campaign

    • @OriginalRAB
      @OriginalRAB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Melkhiordarkblade because "campaign packs" as these were known were overwhelmingly argued against in favour of a more robust roster and extra legendary lords.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OriginalRAB To be honest even the whole 'more legendary Lords' argument ended up failing. Since a lot of them ended up all playing the same as eachother anyway, without any unique mechanics for their sub-faction, only the DLC ones really got any love.

    • @OriginalRAB
      @OriginalRAB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Noobie2k7 certainly originally. But the differing starting lications and minor buffs encouraging certain army builds was enough to promote a diversity people were happy with. Certainly wood elves and beastmen feel a little....slim these days. Chaos warriors too but at least there upgrade is a given come the inevitable third installment.
      its often less about radically suffering platstyle and more "awww I love x, why isn't x here?"

    • @demetriblackheart4497
      @demetriblackheart4497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *The Twisted and the Twilight comes out... with the entire reworking of the wood elves.*
      Me: These comments did not age well huh?

  • @soppydogproductions
    @soppydogproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    7:14 A little risky there

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Amazons that's how they dress 😂

    • @unocualqu1era
      @unocualqu1era 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TheGreatBookofGrudges giggity

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Southlands also has “Ape Men.” Basically smarter Gorillas, possibly Beastmen, but are hired as mercenaries.

    • @reverseimagesearch0results363
      @reverseimagesearch0results363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fumarc4501 aka brazilians

    • @TheBarser
      @TheBarser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh nooo I saw an animated nipple (dies).

  • @MarSara1
    @MarSara1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I want a halflings lord for the empire that gets a goose mount!

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Wouldn't that be fun?! Imagine if you could buff them up to be faster than Empire horses too 😂

    • @thehonestaspy102
      @thehonestaspy102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The goose is loose needs to be their battlecry! 😂

    • @quyphamba7011
      @quyphamba7011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thehonestaspy102 😂😂😂

  • @calimerohnir3311
    @calimerohnir3311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Instead of full factions some of these could be retooled as mercenary units, or maybe something akin to the regiments of renown. For example the Moot could have it own unique building chain allowing any order faction occupying it to recruit halflings, same for amazons in Tlaxtlan, and some Kul mercenaries (functioning as elite marauder horsemen maybe?) available to Norscans and chaos, but only recruitable around the Baersonling's camp.
    As a general rule of thumb I think we should always try to put stuff at specific locations on the map: it forces you to move and conquer places to get stuff instead of turtling in the corner

  • @DestructiconSC
    @DestructiconSC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The least likely races to get, which I'd most love to see implemented would be Amazons and Araby.
    While the introduction of the Vampire Coast did raise the likeliness, I think at this point CA would also prefer to come up with some different or unique mechanics to make it work.
    The Vampire Coast unique compared to the Vampire Counts in that they have a hoard mechanic for their lords, in addition to functional cities, they introduced the pirate cove mechanic and they just straight up play differently.
    I think that's the sort of approach they'd need to have with both Amazons and Araby.
    For Amazons they could be different from other human nations by focusing more on skirmishes and ambushes, perhaps relying on a horde mechanic but having a few notable Lizardmen cities or Old one sites they could occupy. They could probably rely on poisons and also use some dinosaurs, but a lot less than Lizardmen, as in the dinos should be more support, instead of straight up the heavy hitters.
    They might also have access to some of the Slann spells.
    However all the above are just variations on existing mechanics and nothing new or unique.

    • @sirknight3180
      @sirknight3180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah i like your idea.
      In the Warhammer world, lots of the factions are based on real world or historical civilizations. Like the Lizardmen looking all Aztec, Empire being all Holy Roman Empire, Norsca being vikings, Bretonnia which is England-France incarnate. I feel like araby would be like a lot of arabic kingdoms, like i think araby would have great cavalry(like real arabian armies), lots of fast light infantry, ok skirmishers, and like weak artillery. Overall i think araby would be the first Ordertide Human Rush faction.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just need to hire an south African indegenous expert as well as get a non neckbeard, preferably a woman to design their armor and clothing and it could work. As it stands now they are pretty cringe

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sirknight3180 but that's also the issues with most western fantasy. Making stuff inspired by vikings or Roman's is easy because it's part of the creators culture and they have inherent knowledge about it.
      But if you make a race based on say Arabic culture, if you with zero knowledge about it start making it, you base it of racial stereotypes or things you picked up from other media. It's best to have an expert on the culture consult you so you avoid doing something disrespectful (ie the pygmies)

    • @sirknight3180
      @sirknight3180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wile123456 i mean, the name Araby is just so similar, how can you NOT make it similar to real life. It’s like making an elf faction that isnt arrogant. Its like making an orc faction without a dumb voice and language. Its like making Tomb Kings about another civilization, like the Tomb(mummies, canopic jars) kings (leader) put them together and you get undead pseudo-egyptian kings. It’s like making a vampire faction and not having a guy with “count” in his name. Its like making a dark elf faction thats not edgy.

    • @TheRedAzuki
      @TheRedAzuki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sirknight3180 Empire is also German engineering.

  • @metrozeegle4985
    @metrozeegle4985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well, two years later and there’s still no Amazon in sight, however, the chances of one day seeing a faction based on the snakemen of Khuresh have skyrocketed (and so does the chances of seeing one based on Ind, who wasn’t even mentioned in that video) !

    • @emorsi
      @emorsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope that Araby make an appearance as a race pack here. But they have to do it very well.

    • @thezomby5015
      @thezomby5015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are mods that adds Amazon, Araby, Halfling and many other minor factions to the game. The mods are fairly nice.

    • @emorsi
      @emorsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thezomby5015 Thank you for the information. So far I didn't include any mods due to a fear of incompatibility with the game. But maybe I should give it a try, finnaly.

  • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
    @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hey everyone we're doing something a little bit different today while we sort out the new series that we had planned that SHOULD kick start tomorrow 😊

  • @GuilhermeLPC
    @GuilhermeLPC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really want Snake Men of Khuresh so that they can make a trailer full of He-Man references.
    -Kurgans could be added as a horde alternative to Norsca as a free DLC.
    -Amazonians as RoRs for Lizardmen or just references in random events at best, Lustria is too crowded.
    -Halflings could come as a unique hero and early game RoRs that could be gotten through random campaign events or a unique building in the Moot.
    -Hobgoblins could easily come as a horde faction for the Chaos Dwarfs.
    -Pigmies I definitely don't see happening and you can easily tell why, very hard thing to pull of tastefully and not piss off a lot of people.
    -Fishmen could definitely be an easter egg for Lizardmen as a random event.
    Not having enough lore to be considered worth doing is actually a great thing, since Old World is being revived and GW gave them permission to make stuff up, CA could work together with GW and develop some pretty cool models for Snake Men for instance, since they have basically no tabletop models but sound pretty interesting, they would sell well. I'm also pretty sure they would certainly want Ind, Cathay and Nippon in their game, people from those regions would love that if they were done tastefully. India, China and Japan have huge videogame cultures and if the marketing is done right, they could bring a ton of new fans and potential buyers.

  • @AdriusFrostglare
    @AdriusFrostglare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not enough lore?
    *laughs in Vampire Coast*

  • @1perspective286
    @1perspective286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i could see some of these being implemented as subfactions. The hobgoblins, for example, could be a subfaction of chaos dwarfs, but like Skarsnik would only have access to Hobgoblin units until conquering certain Dawi Zharr cities.

  • @vaporwavertv6444
    @vaporwavertv6444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Araby won’t be forgotten!!

  • @kimarous
    @kimarous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    My predictions:
    Halflings = Empire DLC as stated in video
    Hobgoblins = base Chaos Dwarfs roster + Legendary Lord (Great Khan) DLC spotlight
    Amazons = either part of Southern Realms roster (possibly as Regiment of Renown) or as a weird curveball inclusion to the Lizardmen
    (shrug to the rest, particularly the Snakemen of Khuresh, which I've never heard of before... though I can barely find anything on Khuresh period)

    • @dafq9149
      @dafq9149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kimarous would be cool if the east countries like cathay, ind and etc imagine they made eastern beastmen who are like tiger head and had those snake men in their army included.

    • @theguyeverybodylikes9667
      @theguyeverybodylikes9667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dafq9149 if i remember correctly the "eastern beastmen" are already present in ind lore, with them having tiger/elephant/etc heads, however i don't think they're part of chaos though i could be wrong

    • @mythriltempest2796
      @mythriltempest2796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it'd be interesting to get the Lizardmen curveball, and include the Amazons in their roster in game 3, or as a DLC for 2. It'd be more interesting to have some as minor factions that have decent relations with the Lizardmen, but I think that'd probably be the best way to implement them. Then, the Lizardmen can have like, 2-3 Amazonian units (Amazonian Warriors, Jaguar Warriors, and maybe a ranged unit, a berserker unit, or a Cold-One Rider unit?), a Regiment (or two) of Renown, a Hero type (Either a Spellcaster hero, or some sort of Handmaiden type hero), and a Legendary Lord (their queen, most likely.)
      I think it'd be alright, but like you kinda implied, a bit weird. But it's not lorebreaking, and if it was introduced well, I think it'd end up okay.

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Snake men and Fish People just sound fun.

  • @AlanGChenery
    @AlanGChenery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At this point I'm sort of hoping the final dlc for 2 (or even for 3) is a Dogs of War pack which adds loads of minor cultures (like the amazons and halflings) as minor factions in the campaign and a couple of individual units for main factions, as well as the named regiments of them as a playable Tilea. A huntsman style campaign focused on gathering up these great regiments to make a grand expedition would be really good. And regiments like the Desert Dogs would make great previews for their home cultures hopeful appearance in 3.

  • @PierrePreuthun
    @PierrePreuthun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think halflings are highly likely to be added if dogs of war gets added since they are apart of the dogs of war roster and they could be used for the empire if you control the moot

  • @11ambrose11
    @11ambrose11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shame, Ill never be able to kill Archaon with my hotpot launcher doomstack. Come on CA.

  • @fumarc4501
    @fumarc4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you think about the Lost Vampire Bloodlines? Such as the Jade-Bloods of Cathay, Hahtmasi of Araby, Bat Gods of Ind, and potential the Blood Naga being Snakemen infected with Vampirism.

  • @boyanpenev9822
    @boyanpenev9822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Kurgans might be closer to Chaos Warriors than Norsca, as they are infamous for their great size and fighting prowess. Sayl the Faithless and Tamurkhan both work.
    For me the biggest possible miss are the Southern Realms. Heck, they even get special landmarks and technologies that impact them. Yet CA missed one chance after another to release them, took one of their possible lords in Aranessa Saltspite, gave their colonies in Lustria to the Empire... yeah, I think there's a good chance they are not coming, except as a Norsca-esque preorder.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only Kurgan units I can think of are Lancers and Horse Archers which can be given to Norsca and Warriors of Chaos

  • @MrZlubot
    @MrZlubot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The snake men would make a great addition for CA to put their skills to the test. If they were allowed full creative rights like they did with the vampire cost I think it would be a great addition to warhammer total war

  • @HoundofOdin
    @HoundofOdin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want to see the Beastfiends from the Southern Wastes get an army one day. Extremely niche I know, but they made a huge impression on me in the Archaon novels. They would be a great addition to the Beastman army roster.

  • @SleightCreative
    @SleightCreative 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Amazons could be introduced as a pre-order bonus for warhammmer 3, like the Norsca were in for Warhammer 2

    • @juanpablomontalvo4715
      @juanpablomontalvo4715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SleightCreative
      Maybe but i’m wracking my brain around where they could be fit in, Lustria in game is a knife fight between 16 different flavors of lizards, orcs, vampirates, The huntsmans expedition and scaven because theres always scaven

  • @tylergottschling8245
    @tylergottschling8245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think that after warhammer 3 and its dlcs that games workshop might start filling in these races as something to spice up here and there to make it feel complete?

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It could be possible! Honestly with GW working on Old World lately there is a lot of potential for both OW and TWW3 to see a lot of stuff fleshed out 😊

    • @TheAzorg
      @TheAzorg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Warhammer 4: the fillergame. No specific campaign, just some "mortal empires" thing that would focus on introducing every single minor faction until we're fed up with the game x)

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll never get fed up of this series 😂

  • @nahhfam7678
    @nahhfam7678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also a regiment of renown of halfling where you can press an ability that makes the unit crawl on their hands and knees, allowing them to go under the legs of enemy unit as long as they are in combat against another allied unit.

  • @CommanderBohn
    @CommanderBohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You never know. With some work you can put in everything. If the Dogs of War appear, then it won't be impossible that Lumpin Croop's Fighting Cocks will be available and thus halflings appearing isn't impossible. Also you don't need a new LL or something like this. You can add in a new type of lord, the aforementioned units and then have them be recruitable by the Empire as long as you hold The Moot. Maybe for anyone from any order faction.
    Kurgans, as well as the Hung, can also be easily mitigated, but for that to happen the Horde mechanic must be reworked to hell and back. We could make generic lords and units for both of them and have them as Norscan units.
    Snakemen from the Hinterlands of Khuresh? Easy. If Ind will ever be playable, then have the former be combined with the latter, thus the Ind armies get Snakemen as monster infantry and the Blood Nagas as Lord choices.
    Amazons? Simple. Have them as unit and hero packs recruitable for anyone who controls the places that are settled by them in lore (among them the Temple of Kara). Of course only probably for selected factions (you imagine
    The Fishmen...I see the problem
    The Pygmies? The only problems I have with them is their lips looking too comical and overall looking weird due to early sculpts being very dated. It would be a shame if they weren't in. They'd definitively be monster-hunter units and frighteningly efficient at it. I mean they can easily hunt down Coatlts. The very big, Chimera-sized feathered flying dinos who are also discount Slaan and can reshape the forests just by flying over them.
    Also where are the Coatlts?

  • @ArcaneAxolotl
    @ArcaneAxolotl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hobgoblin Khanate could work as a free-LC faction in Warhammer 3 that functions similarly to Repanse de Lyoness in Warhammer 2. Some characteristics are the ability to recruit hobgoblin slaves (renamed for their faction) as well as bonuses to hobgoblins and goblin wolf riders.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the Hobgoblin Khanata is just going to be a subfaction for Chaos Dwarves
      Chaos Dwarves are basically Dwarves but very versatile
      -Greenskins to soak damage and keep Dwarven infantry occupied
      -Hobgobline cavalry to flank and damage enemy Artillery
      -Chaos Dwarves to decimate Dwarves with Guns and Spells!

  • @profjeff9
    @profjeff9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's possible that if we get a Dogs of War army, it will come with standalone Amazon, Halfling, and Arabyan units, because of the different regiments. That'd be nice.

  • @chasepfeffer2143
    @chasepfeffer2143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Anyone see the tease on Warhammer 2's steam news "Something on the horizon...." with green skin teases?
    Edit:"Me an da boyz iz ready for da big WAAAAAAAGH!"

  • @tyrion9999
    @tyrion9999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet they will retconn the snakemen of khuresh to be lost lizardmen like the dragon isles so there is more diversity of factions in that area, if its ever included into the hame

  • @Bimuhnng
    @Bimuhnng 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the Dogs of War could get a shot at WH3, they would just have to warp the map a little to have all the Border Prince territories fit in with the Darklands, Kislev, Ogre Kingdoms, and whatever else they want to put in. They could even be the answer for some of the missing factions mentioned here, like the Amazon mercenaries, or Arabian mercenaries. I don't think they would be a launch faction though, maybe more of a first-wave DLC.

  • @Darkside-tr3sx
    @Darkside-tr3sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The amazons could be introduced as units in the mortal empires for Warhammer 3. They can also add the pygmies in this manner. I really hope that they do.

    • @chrisspink8873
      @chrisspink8873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Daniel Frank I’m game for all old minor factions except the pygmie maybe we can just pretend they don’t exist 😂😂

    • @SzRobertF
      @SzRobertF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe add Amazon's as a Lizardman unit? Not shure how friendly they are in Lore though.

    • @chrisspink8873
      @chrisspink8873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Róbert Szabolcsi they kinda just ignore each other in most of the stuff I’ve seen. Personally I’d rather they get a few units in the southern realms roster as I’d like southern realms/dogs of war to have a mercenary mechanic that kinda works like the elector count units for the empire.

    • @SzRobertF
      @SzRobertF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisspink8873 yeah that would make sense too.

    • @Darkside-tr3sx
      @Darkside-tr3sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chris Spink Why no pygmies😂? I find that they could add diversity to the human rosters by having some African themed units.

  • @flibbernodgets7018
    @flibbernodgets7018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know about the snakemen, the fishmen, or the pygmies before this.

  • @gamf5996
    @gamf5996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I could want from the halflings is just maybe the hot pot give it discourage because of the boiling brew and that’s it there are other cooler units for the empire that are still missing and a dlc for halfling units mean taking the spot for other ones

  • @Malusdarkblades11
    @Malusdarkblades11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you could make a Jungel version of the wood elves and make it look like a crossover between Amazons and Woodelves :)

  • @NotQuiteEnglish01
    @NotQuiteEnglish01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like there needs to be a fundamental change in horde mechanics.
    1) I'd completely ditch upkeep for horde unit. Makes no sense to me that Beastmen or Chaos Warriors need paying, they just want to watch the world burn. Instead, you can trade favour for army buffs from the Chaos Gods.
    2) I'd lock elite units behind some sort of victory mechanic. You need to increase your renown to attract the strongest warriors to your cause so the more battles you win, the better the troops you can recruit.
    3) Cities destroyed by a horde faction should be unable to be resettled whilst your horde is alive. Once that city is razed, that's it, poof. It now stands as a monument to the Chaos Gods or something. Nakai's mechanic would be fine, with a little tweaking to represent the horde race and goals.
    4) There should also be a final battle for horde campaigns. In the End Times, the races came together for one final stand against Chaos. It could be your hordes vs everyone else. There could be a turn limit, forcing you to eliminate as many factions as possible in that time to better your chances in the final battle.
    Something like that.

    • @TsurugisFlame
      @TsurugisFlame 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny that all of your suggestions in some way or another became a thing for the Beastmen

  • @sankarchaya
    @sankarchaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It sort of makes sense to not include the pygmies considering they're named for a real ethnic group in Africa which faces discrimination and oppression even in their home countries. At the very least, they'd need to rename them and, uh, alter their aesthetic to be less what 19th century British imperialists thought native Africans were like.

  • @parttimehero8640
    @parttimehero8640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And now we'll get a combined map featuring Khuresh

  • @nightbling8905
    @nightbling8905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love lustria more than anywhere else, the lizardmen and Skaven are the main reason I got into the game, they are so different from the basic stereotypical fantasy races like dwarves and elves. They are what makes warhammer special to me, so I need more dlc for them in the next game

  • @Shagrat65
    @Shagrat65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think we will see a Hobgoblin sub faction for the Dawi Zharr under Gorduz Backstabber.

  • @OverLorD768
    @OverLorD768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You think Halflings are harmless and can't be a faction in the campaing? Have you played the first Overlord?

  • @hughgedney3393
    @hughgedney3393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very extremely awesome video as always The Great Book of Grudges. And I think we still might see the Kurgan DLC in Warhammer three total war, either as a sub or a stand alone faction.

  • @trevorcordi
    @trevorcordi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you say “Hordes are broken” do you mean it as in powerful, or as in unplayable?

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      To the point of unplayable they aren't very fun as they have fallen behind compared to many other races. They can still be cheesed but just not fun to play

  • @NotNewButYork
    @NotNewButYork 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My take:
    Fishmen - RoR/Unit for Vampirates
    Halflings - Scouts/Hotpot recruitable per unique building at the Moot (like Hatchlings at Arachnos) for Empire/Bretonnia/Wood- or High Elves and Dwarfs only
    Kurgan, Hobgoblins, Snekmen, Pygmies - as in Video
    Amazons - Might be hireable Mercs.

  • @merlierjo
    @merlierjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the amazon their is still a chance that they may come as sub-race (as the halflings) for the lizardmen in the next dlc or the one after (2 more dlc pack were annonced in last Q&A)
    Halflings may come in TTW3, as Kislev
    Nagas or snakemen may come too in TTW3 (as we now nothing of TTW3 yet)
    Khagans got high chance to be subrace of chaos in TTW3 chaos rework

  • @errorisdei988
    @errorisdei988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lost Factions Mod shows the potential of what is possible. Lost factions need of course a rework like Venris does with SFO. I hope the new Mega Campaign will include more of Lustria, giving more space for Amazons Mod and a legendary dwarf lord FLC (since we already got a minor faction from dwarves there), that would make Lustria much more interesting

  • @jacobgame2757
    @jacobgame2757 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Chaos dwarf faction with 2/3 Chaos dwarf lords and then 1 which has a hobgoblin lord. Just like how they grouped Pirates of Sartosa with the Vampire Pirates.

  • @BouncingTribbles
    @BouncingTribbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see the amazons transplanted to another jungle. Maybe the hinterlands of rhuresh. Wherever they go it would make sense for them to replace something that doesn't have any lore at all. Something other than lizards in the jungle would be nice too

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the Halflings could happen as a Meme Race someday. With just 1 LL (Elder Hisme) but the Warhammer version of the Fellowship of the Ring as a bunch of Unique Heroes. Probably giving them the goal of destroying Zharr Nagrund (the Mordor of Warhammer Fantasy)
    A Halfling Roster, Imperial State Troops for backup, some Treemen and Eagles and basically a very small Meme Roster could be fielded.

  • @nargaman261
    @nargaman261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't you dare shatter my dreams of an halfling faction, monster

  • @bibby659
    @bibby659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 years ago...heh, well I mean at least we know that 2 of these will more than likely actually be added later on...while not right now Koresh will definitely be a DLC and possibly other things...alot of the others I can see why they wont honestly exist though...
    Granted Kuresh will definiely need a ton of attention considering they aren't even brought up much at all during the lore for the most part. However it wouldn't be the first time they've done such, especially considering they even spent time and money making Daniel and intertwining his lore with The big Shadow Daddy himself.
    But also funny enough they removed the one island that has the most lore with it in favor for those two area's and even hint at them becoming something considering they exist while everything else doesn't...though tbh those other island may become expansions as well but only after those two islands or territories are more fleshed out...might be games workshop secretly saying they will focus on those area's first before adding in the islands just to the right of them...maybe to force Games Workshop off their asses to actually get up, and make something of nothing they left behind.
    Also the fact they included them alone within the map at all instead of erasing the land masses should basically mean they wish to see the respective races implemented into the game and thus are currently having them be blank spaces or blank spaces owned by just nobody random shite factions here and there.

  • @girlyknight8817
    @girlyknight8817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pygmy culd be add to amazons if we ever get them. Which i'm hoping. Re-model of coarse. An the khuresh, eliches , fish men and kneve units with ind

  • @mema0005
    @mema0005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of them: no chance. Maybe some Halfling units (archers and hot pot through a series of buildings in the Moot, maybe a hero also) something like Kinghts of the Blazing Sun. Hobgoblins possibly through Chaos Dwarfs and Greenskins, but doubtful as there own race

  • @jibcot8541
    @jibcot8541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have been dropping a few hints about Fishmen, so I think they will come, if Warhammer 3 starts doing well after Immortal empires.

  • @nagashtheundyingking4404
    @nagashtheundyingking4404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most likely the halflings would be added kinda similar to the sun knights (forget the name) where you Add a special building tree where you can recruit them
    Can also see kurgans added as a horse like Nora a faction

  • @karolkwiecjasz9356
    @karolkwiecjasz9356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Halflings should be part of Dogs of War where they would fit in perfectly alongside maneater ogres and tilean inventors as stealthy support troops for the rather siege minded tileans. Hobgoblins should be a minor chaos dwarf faction that can recruit more greenskin units as a hybrid. Snakemen of Khuresh could be a lizardmen colony with units for them.
    The fishpeople were kindda made into something else in later lore. We know of aquatic beastmen in bretonnia, called lakemen if I am not mistaken. Typical lovecraft thing but could be something intresting to add to the beastmen as maybe a horde with magic damage or a high physical resistance. Dunno, I just see them as infantry chaos spawn and that makes them so loveable. Kurgan and Hung are technicly simlar to eachother and I could see them beeing rolled into one steppe people of chaos faction. I mean, its better to hope for them rather than chaos cults or a revised araby with a more early arabian theme and bound chaos demons instead of generic genies.

  • @entertainmentforthedead
    @entertainmentforthedead 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbh with the limited information we have from the lore I could see the 3rd games map only stretching as far east as the eastern edge of the ogre kingdoms, then expanding into the Southlands somewhat more. then after that I believe that CA would probably start off with a Araby DLC/Brettonia rework. followed by an Estalian/Border Princes DLC and then after that I could honestly see a lot of faction reworks to some of the old races such as the Wood Elves/Beastman (if they aren't already reworked with the last DLC for Warhammer 2)
    then I could see races like Albion and maybe troll kingdoms being added, I also see the Tomb Kings perhaps getting maybe one more lord accompanied with a few new units.
    my assumption is that upon release of Warhammer 3 Chaos will already be reworked as that would be a big selling feature for those who have already played Warhammer 2. I could also see Chaos being dealt with with numerous LL DLC packs.
    as of right now the factions that need reworks the most in my opinion from Warhammer 2 is the Chaos, the beastmen and wood elves for sure.

  • @Popebug
    @Popebug 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The snake men never had actual figures and rules in Blood Bowl, but a team is mentioned once, and extremely briefly.

  • @Nozdormu1982
    @Nozdormu1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually believe we are going to see more content for warhammer III. Reason being is that Warhammer III almost certainly won't be coming out this year and probably over a year or so. September 2021. Given this significant gap we are going to see more updates for warhammer II then originally planned.

  • @martinbudinsky8912
    @martinbudinsky8912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:17 I am surprised the woman in front hasnt had her chest censured... XD

  • @sauronsolahtar8960
    @sauronsolahtar8960 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A pity we won't see many of these races, I mean a lot are army wise very similar to other races in the area Albion - Norsca - Kurgans, Halflings - Empire, Araby - Tomb Kings - Empire, Amazon's - Lizardmen. But they still are worth at least something
    At least Amazons can be put with Lizardmen, Kurgans with Chaos or Norsca, and Halflings with Empire. Araby and Albion although similar to their neighbors also hate their neighbors so it would be quite the stretch to have them join in say Tomb Kings and Norsca

  • @FlavBoe
    @FlavBoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward towards Cathay and Araby.

  • @sime1635
    @sime1635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see Amazon in Total War Warhammer 2 as they look a insteresting faction and would give a unique look in Lustria. I like sound of Halflings and Snakemen.

  • @thehonestaspy102
    @thehonestaspy102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd like a halfling legendary lord to be added in at the moot and you can recruit them as an empire faction when you take the moot. Taking the moot should also unlock a building chain in all empire cities that provides access to a halfling hero, the hotpot catapult, geese riders and halfling archers.

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering the potential Map for Warhammer 3. I highly believe the Kurgan are going to be a Race for Warhammer 3. There's 4 LLs (Vardek Crom, Tamurkhan, Sayl the Faithless and Kayzk the Befouled) Give them a Cavalry and Monster centric roster and it could be done.
    I disagree on them not being the spotlight. Most of the Everchosen of Chaos have been from the Kurgan Tribes, including the one before Archaon, Azavar Kul.
    I have hopes for the Horde Rework to make them work. Also i think adding Settlements in the Chaos Wastes would work to make the Kurgan kinda like a hybrid faction. Horde (when outside the Chaos Wastes) Regular Settlements (when in the Chaos Wastes) would allow Kurgan to trade with Chaos Dwarfs (which they do in the lore) and also would make a WoC campaign more fun, as there would be stuff in the Chaos Wastes to also take care of.

  • @juanbarbosasiguenza5883
    @juanbarbosasiguenza5883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see snakes of Kuresh as a faction or mixed with Ind, both are based in hindu mithology. Halflings, amazon and pygmies as part of dogs of war roster. Kurgan and hung as expansion lord dlc with thematic units for norsca. Tamurkhan vs elspeth for example. Hobgobla Khan as a legendary Lord for sure, but not sure if the sixth greenskin ll or a chaos dwarf Lord.

  • @McHobotheBobo
    @McHobotheBobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pygmies could potentially be replaced by Lustrian halflings, highly unlikely tho

  • @cfarrell0272
    @cfarrell0272 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they could do a DLC for the Hobgoblin in WH3 like The King and the Warlord in WH1 where you play As a leader that cut off the chaos dwarf units they could play as a Horde similar like Nakai The Wanderer where you need to capture territory for chaos Dwarf where they may give you some dwarf units but never let you recruit them from buildings.

  • @ChristophelusPulps
    @ChristophelusPulps 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Kurgan would make for cool rogue armies prowling about that part of the world.

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what your telling me is that Araby still has a chance?

  • @The3mbered0ne
    @The3mbered0ne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't mind what races are added, i just hope they add naval battles tbh...

  • @gurchtschalllly
    @gurchtschalllly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about the moot as empire dlc? with some human regiments and the most rediculmous and fun halfling units

  • @funnyfish1453
    @funnyfish1453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think an interesting faction could be made out of the Kurgans. Chaos Mongols would be great

  • @lilmeme9784
    @lilmeme9784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    halfings could be added instead of a lord pack but as a landmark building or two

  • @Inquisitor_Jeff
    @Inquisitor_Jeff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, ever since CA put in the Vampire Coast (a personal top 5 faction), even making up their own new legendary lord in Cylostra Direfin, I wouldn’t put it past them to implement at least a couple of these factions into Total Warhammer 3 in some way!

  • @karolkwiecjasz9356
    @karolkwiecjasz9356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Halflings would be part of a Dogs of War army and Hobgoblin could get Hob-gobla Khan as a chaos dwarfs legendary lord specialised in buffing greenskin units.
    As for fishmen - I could see them as a hero option randomly beeing a part of some race. Maybe added to Vampire coast as a meme hero alongside a Vangheist lord pack. Make him a speedy hide specialist and watch the meme go vroom in multiplayer.

  • @sbraypaynt
    @sbraypaynt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The fact that Albion is not on this list fills me with hope

  • @McHobotheBobo
    @McHobotheBobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we will get a Halfling LL and a Hobgoblin LL for Empire and Greenskins respectively. Same for Amazons and Lizardmen potentially

  • @comradecat3678
    @comradecat3678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the pygmy race isn't getting added for some other reasons... they look like they are from Confederate Toys INC.

  • @ilesalmo7724
    @ilesalmo7724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could the Amazons be a Lizard-men unit the way you suggested Halflings possibly becoming an Empire unit? Amazons worship at least some of the Old Ones as I recall. Though all new units that are added to already established factions usually need to have their own niche in the faction. Halflings are good scouts and archers, but the Empire already has huntsmen which already inhabit that spot.

    • @juanpablomontalvo4715
      @juanpablomontalvo4715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ile Salmo
      I could hear the scribbling of pencils as rile 34 artists of lizard on muscle woman porn. As well as the angry typing of incels angry that they’re adding the amazons for whatever reason that offends them today

    • @ilesalmo7724
      @ilesalmo7724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanpablomontalvo4715 Incels would have aneurysms for having to be on the same side as ultra-feminists and vice-versa (the pics of the Amazons seem to be pretty light on fabrics).

  • @piratejack6577
    @piratejack6577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give us halflings
    Current halfling leader started in moot
    New lore of companionship character freeing ogre slaves
    Pigmis in southern area with special units
    Second lord in moot
    (I tried)

  • @profjeff9
    @profjeff9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Snakeman is super cute.

  • @OBSweats
    @OBSweats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still holding out hope for araby so glad you didn't include them here!

  • @Hexley_Vexley
    @Hexley_Vexley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Halflings, Amazons and Chaos Dwarfs are all available via mods.

  • @frankiegale5460
    @frankiegale5460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just looking at the Pygmies makes me offended.... I totally get why they won't make them playable.

    • @Paul-wq5ij
      @Paul-wq5ij 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FRANKIE GALE miniatures makes you offended? SJW Much

    • @frankiegale5460
      @frankiegale5460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course a white guy makes an insensitive comment......what a surprise...

    • @Paul-wq5ij
      @Paul-wq5ij 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FRANKIE GALE for real though those miniatures are exceedingly stereotypical, I see where you’re coming from after watching the video

    • @ManCheat2
      @ManCheat2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frankiegale5460 Lol, and you be racist back. No better.

  • @samcook6368
    @samcook6368 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking that the reason why the Pygmies have absolutely zero chance of appearing has nothing to do with them coming from Lustria.

  • @almister
    @almister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video mate

  • @anthonycernik6548
    @anthonycernik6548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know you know to much when you know all of the faction in this list

  • @Brittway
    @Brittway 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned sea elves and i wondered if they could have something, considering they have their age of sigmar equivalent going on atm.

  • @kagetoshin9761
    @kagetoshin9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont underestimated halflings, they can be very sneaky than skaven. Just give the one ring and they will raze this world

  • @robertmoore5588
    @robertmoore5588 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we'll ever get the halflings, it'll be a tie in with the Ogre Kingdoms.

  • @Geshmaal
    @Geshmaal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be really cool to see Dogs of War implemented, the whole game would need rebalancing though if almost every army could hire their units like in the 6th ed rules.

  • @aleksjamnik5360
    @aleksjamnik5360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    halflings could be added but not a race pack but a versus pack, maybe even a funny empire v empire pack

  • @Seth717
    @Seth717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I heard that there are tigermen in the warhammer world, Ind?

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup Tigermen of Ind, they are more intelligent than standard Beastmen that we are used to in the Warhammer World and have been known to enter diplomacy with the native humans of Ind (well a rough form of diplomacy)

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ind also have Bat “Gods,” basically Vampires that look like giant fruit bats.

  • @lukeungerboeck7161
    @lukeungerboeck7161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Araby?

  • @michaelpetrovich5353
    @michaelpetrovich5353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do not understand. What DLC wouldn't make money for them.
    I can only speak for myself.
    A $ 10 Halfling DLC where they have three units?. Sold
    A $ 25 DLC for the Beastmen DLC? Sold
    A $ 30 Araby DLC ? Sold
    A $ 50 Cathy DLC?, Sold
    A $ 100 warhammer 4 game with all the missing lore and factions? Sold, sold sold.
    I mean what you give me I will buy it and I think the majority of players will do the same.
    I am not a rich man but i know what i like and i spend money on what i enjoy and that allows me to relax from my stressful job and i can unwind when the kids are asleep and before my wife wants to watch some fucking romantic comedy with Dakota Johnson and Channing Tatum or some other a-holes.
    I want this and i want as much as possible.

    • @michaelpetrovich5353
      @michaelpetrovich5353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hauke Holst ok the halfling are a bad exempel.
      But how will this work when GW has killed of the old world. They are not selling any unit models from the old war but they are going back there and
      Isnt this a great oppertunity to let CA do all the factions and units and in that way GW can see which factions are the populare ones and where to put their eggs in which basket? 😁