HMS Ark Royal / Pegasus (1914) - Guide 365
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- The Ark Royal class, first 'aircraft carrier' of the British Royal Navy, is today's subject.
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Pinned post for Q&A :)
Sorry to abuse the pinned post. I just saw Godzilla-1. There was a naval battle which would make an excellent April video.
If, for whatever reason, the HSF failed to scuttle itself at Scapa Flow, how would the ships have been divided among the Entente powers, and how much impact would this have on the WNT?
I know that RMS Queen Mary and RMS Lusitania were both hit by massive rogue waves that destroyed Lusitania's bridge and made Queen Mary list very badly so how much damage could one do to a warship from the same period?
What would happens if those ships internd in scappa flow decided to return to germany using force amd was that a real threat?
Is there a U-571 guide in the future? Yes, it's a fictional boat but any vessel that can be dived and fight with a foreign crew must have been very user friendly.
I love that Drach describes 11 knots as “stately”. It makes me want a table of increasingly complementary Drachisms to describe decreasing speeds. If 11 knots is stately, might 10 knots be magnificent and 9 knots regal, while 16 knots is merely dignified and 22 knots is scandalous?
What about 30 knots? Riotously outrageous?
@@davidpnewton ludicrous?
@@davidpnewton Perverted!
Bombastic.
Mere walking pece by wargaming standards🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isn't it so depressing that 99.999% of all your Royal Naval videos end with "And she was sold for scrap."
I for one think it’s more comforting than the ones that end with “sunk with all hands.”
Alot Better than sunk with all hands aboard tho. The ship did it service, thus had to make way for better ones. So i see it differently
Because you think this is different elsewhere? God, being able to visit the Richelieu...
HMS Warspite fought being scrapped bravely, refusing to be hauled in.
It’s about as close as a natural death a warship will get
When I read the history of this Ark Royal. It surprised me she would out live her successor.
Not going toe -to-toe with the Kriegsmarine has it's advantages.
Interesting - she was built in Blyth and there is a rather nice model of her in the Blyth Library - I have a poor photo (reflections on the glass cabinet) - and some of the details of the model which really is extremely good - happy to forward and can get better ones if interested (if it is still there!!)
2:24 "Which might have been enough to deter an attack by a particularly aggressive rowboat."
2:21 I love the idea of a warship whose armament is solely there not especially to defend the ship, but to alert their other, bigger counterparts that 'hey, we're under attack', and that they should come and help. Just something very amusing about it, it's some how both better and worse than not being armed at all lol.
I agree.
This ship sums up the necessarily awkward early stages of airpower at sea. They knew it could have applications worthy of the effort, but naval engineers and strategists could not yet see the full picture of course.
Slow, unarmoured, barely armed, but worth her weight in gold for learning and developing new technologies.
It would have been nice if one of the two new carriers had been named Ark Royal.
To many good names. Not enough ships for them.
Didn't understand why they weren't
@@Archie2c -essentally? One of them was ALWAYS going to be QE. With old monarch on throne, having been so for so long and being popular almost even among republicans.... And with the name being capital ship grade historically on top.
its the navy paying tribute to the dying queen, essentially. Has added bonus of making sales pitch in Westminster easier cos will get the royalist tory mps salivating.
(And must say- no complaints here from British republican naval history geek. Its fair shout.)
And then what follows the monarch? Prince of Wales. its case of once picked first name is zero choice on second name. Its ALWAYS going to be PoW after QE. (as much as anything it means courtiers dont have to listen to charlie whine about how hes not as popular as his mum was.)
they choose the names to make it harder for any goverment to cancel them ............ altough this week no money for a 3rd F35 sqn
Politics
Some ship names have distinguished histories and a Naval vessel with that name should always be part of that nations fleet. Ark Royal, Warspite, Iron Duke, Enterprise, Johnston, Roberts, others I can't think of at the moment. Keeping those traditions and histories alive is important in this turbulent world.
A other good ship name I can think of is Dreadnought. ^c^
Victory!
@@user-gw5wh3xu7b Still technically in service as the Flagship!
@larsn97 aren't they naming one of the new subs Dreadnought?
@@user-gw5wh3xu7b Already in use by the world's ONLY wooden hull Battleship and oldest warship still in commission. It's possible that this name will continue in use at least until it is finally assigned to a Starship after its current owner has finally met her end from shear age.
Ironic that the very first aircraft carrier out lived 99.99% of those that were designed off its learnings.
Same with Hosho. Only Langley was sunk.
That’s because the British are still using it as their lead carrier.
Been waiting for 1914 Ark Royal to be covered so thrilled to watch your take on her! Thanks Dach!! I've always been facinated by the early 'carriers'. Especially the hanger and launching configs before full length flat decks became a thing... ah, the number of attempts I've made to built her in minecraft over the years! hehe
Brilliant never knew how long she served as an RN vessel
"RN Admiral - Ship's too old.
HMS Pegasus - Utter bollocks. Imma train some CAM pilots and do a couple of convoy escort runs while at it. I'll be back in a jiffy. Now leave me alone before I dent yer noggin with me cane. "
Old geezer kept on making itself useful no matter how hard the Admiralty tried, by the looks of it. It had the Warspite spirit.
Thanks for sharing, Drach.
The only aircraft carrier with a sail
Well, that beats our coal fired paddlewheelers.😢
Lets not forget HMS _By Jove!_ which carried aircraft to *TOW* her along
A long and faithful career through 2 world wars. Nothing fancy, was assigned a job and sailed on to do it. I've always had a soft spot for ships that just get things done when they really aren't built for what they did. The crews found a way to make it happen.
This episode about sums up this channel. I'm placing it in my top 5. Just simple facts about a ship I'm happy to know something about I'd never heard of before.
A particularly aggressive rowboat? (Drach delivers!) 😎
Next 5 minute guide needs to be on this "aggressive row boat"
Fantastic story! Truly brilliant content you will not find elsewhere. Thank you!
Thank you, Drachinifel.
I wonder if Pegasus was really in good enough shape in 1946 to be considered for conversion back to a freighter ship.
Sure, you can replace the machinery and remove whatever war-related structure is on top, but the hull itself has been exposed to the seas and the elements for thirty or forty years.
At this point, buying a liberty or victory ship would have been a cheaper option, unless I'm cruelly mistaken about the prices involved.
If memory serves, the Liberty and Victory ships were built only for the short-term to build them faster. Were they suitable for merchant work after that?
@@Cailus3542hundreds were sold into commercial service after WW2, and 500 were retained in reserve by the USN until the 1960s. D
Snd last of liberty if my memory servs me rigt was still working in africa in 1994. So much for a contruction build to last 3-4 years😂😂😂
There's still one preserved as a museum on each of the US coats to visit if memory serves.
@@frankbodenschatz173 Really ? Given the cost to maintain any ship as a museum, I thought they'd invest only in warships, not freighters !
I can only imagine hoisting sail on a Ford class carrier 😊
Loving the idea of a sail, you can imagine some hard-bitten Nelsonian hangover all at sea on a kerosene-stinking new-fangled ship finding the sail a a great comfort...
Seaplane carriers are one amongst the many technological oddities that make the inter-war/WW2 period so interesting to study.
Thank you so much for saying *3 inch* along with “a 4 pounder gun”.
I remember reading about this ship as a child, and am genuinely surprised it lasted through both world wars.
I find the concept of the sea plane carrier to be fascinating. I'd love to see a video on the Commandant Teste.
Thank you drachif
Thanks!
To continue the theme HMAS / HMS Albatross would be interesting 🤔
Only aircraft carrying ship with a sail...?
Drach, have you forgot about HMS _By Jove!_ and the planes she carried for towing purposes?
Pepperidge Farm remembers...
as usual - perfection
Keep up good work mate
The slapdash experimental first attempt that just would not die. I like it.
Interesting subject. Never seen the photos before.
Ah this takes me back to the days when I worked at Fleet Air Arm Museum…
Finally a Intro that sounds right
Thanks Drach.
I always learn something on this channel! Thank you Sir!
Thanks Drach
Aaaaaah….fitted with Orelikons. You can never get enough Orelikons.
Needs more dakka-dakka.
@@marckyle5895 ….because you never know when you wanna go duck hunting.
I don't really care too much about the time period, any merchantman that managed this length and level of service deserves recognition.
She was also present in Scapa Flow the night HMS Royal Oak was sunk sone 2 miles away in October 1929 and was the first ship to raise the alarm several hours later - see 'Black Saturday' by Alexander Mckee for the survivors story of the sinking.
It is kind of a cool ship!
Would that mizzen sail make Ark Royal the last sail-equipped Royal Navy ship?
There were some WW2 Motor Gun Boats assigned to the Caribbean which did not have the range to reach there across the Atlantic so had temporary sails fitted for the transatlantic voyage.
Technically, that would be HMS Victory, no?
TopTen, I;ll take it
You should make a video on names the RN hasn’t reused and why, or other retired names and so on in other navies
The RN doesn't officially retire names, but I doubt we will ever see another Hood.
at 6:21 what is that crazy looking crane mounted to the bow of the ship used for? Anyone? Thoughts?
They used cranes to recover seaplanes. Plane lands next to (probably lee side) of the ship, crane lowers a hook over, they attach it to the top of the plane, then hoist it aboard.
I was wondering if that was its use. It is so low and small on the bow of the ship it does not look like it could do the job.@@j_taylor
So tell me doesn't HMS mean His Majesties Ship, wondering?
His/Her yes
Undistinguished career followed by ignominious end. Story of my life, barring unexpected reversal.
story of most people's lives. But at least AR did a bit of cruising.
@@contemplativegaze1839 Solve I, to s degree !
An exceptional career, allowed a navy to learn how to operate aircraft at sea, taught a generation of airmen their basics, and hundreds if not thousands of crew how to work with and maintain aircraft. A vital step in the learning process, all for the cost of a medium-sized merchant hull.
@@godalmighty83 OK, got me there.
A surprisingly long life for a basically experimental platform. I'd imagine a merchant hull made it relatively easy to pull old equipment out and put new in.
She made it longer than a lot of the ships made back then.
6:07 Why does it look like there's a giant towbar on the front of the ship? Paravanes, maybe?
It would be interesting with a serie about all ships sharing the same name....
Was She present at Scapa during Prien`s attack? I`ve heard rumours! Definately important in Ship/Aircraft integration, i.e. birth of the Carrier, and , death of the vaunted.............Battleship!!!!
museum ships were definitely *not* on the radar (pardon me...) in the post WW2 era,
were they?
this would have been a beaut to still have around, methinks.
Wow, quite a career!
Always interesting videos, but why have you changed the music?
My great grandfather helped build her.
I miss the old intro music. Doesn't seem quite right without it.
I recently saw a documentary called Raiders of the lost ark. What was Ark Royal at any point actually delivering it to the men “top men” to study it? it was crazy. They had such a big room for boxes. I don’t think they were ever going to get to it. There’s a very filmed in real time obviously based on true events in front of live studio audience.
I had the opportunity to view the Ark Royal in the 1980s when it visited Melbourne. However there was a strike by tugboat operators and it could not dock in bad weather but moved around in circles in Port Phillip Bay. I thought this was a disgraceful action by the tugboat operators and was reflected in the newspapers.
Technically speaking, it was the Fleet Air Arm of the Royal Air Force, the Royal Naval Air Service having been merged with the Royal Flying Corps to create the Royal Air Force on 1st April 1918. In simple terms the RAF operated the aircraft, the Royal Navy, the ships. The RAF was hardly going off free lancing militarily without the say so of politicians or the other armed services even if it seemed like it at times 😂.
I've heard about the RAF taking over the Fleet Air Arm a few times now but haven't heard the details. Is there an existing video with more detail about this I should look for before asking for a video about it?
Probably because it never happened. The RAF was created by merging the Royal Naval Air Service with the Royal Flying Corps, when it happened the RAF was given control of operating all air assets on land and sea. The organisation the RAF used to do this from 1st April 1924 was the Fleet Air Arm of the RAF. This was given over to full Royal Naval control on 24th May 1939 by the Inskip Award, Inskip being the Minister for Co-ordination of Defence.
What was that triangular structure projecting over the bow, looking like the worlds largest towbar?
The gallows for her anti-acoustic mine acoustic hammer which was lowered into the water and began pounding away at a frequency designed to explode mines at a safe distance.
And torpedo canoes... Forget about it! 🐿
Nearly 40 years including active service in both world wars? Not a bad career for an early 20th century Royal Navy one off test bed.
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It is so depressing how many of these guides ends with, "...and she was sold for scrap in..."
Where would we dock them all? We're talking 1,000s of ships and not much $$
They sure got their $ worth out of her. Amazingly flexible design by accident.
£ worth.
There will only be 1 ark royal to me??? Dads one ,the one with buccs and phantoms!!
Please do a video on "particularly aggressive row boats" please.
"It might surprise you to know that after Ark Royal name wasn't used between the armada and the 20th C". Do you know how many greek and Roman mythological names there are? And that's before you get to heraldic names...
Wow. Talk about getting your money's worth out of a hull.
59th, 9 December 2023
So the Pegasus was a rather odd bird that turned out to have quite a bit of utility
I can assure you anyone angry (and stupid) enough to attack an aircraft carrier in a rowboat would not be deterred by the armament of the vessel, regardless of caliber or quantity.
Not first.
I didn't know there was an "aggressive row boat" class!
Nice
I'd say the RN got their money's worth out of this ships service
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Well, you gotta stsrt *somewhere* with RN aircraft carrier development and evolution. Just as with the first USS Massachusetts. Otherwise that Massachusetts was a heap of ateaming junk.
1939
Waste not want not.
First!
first i win
You nearly had it!
DAMN IT@@Thetiersofmadness
Bully for you - not