It’s a bit of a stretch when the Mormons say they’re “Christians” too but just have “further revelation”… *Mormon God is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from Biblical God!*
How terrible that God would want to talk with His children!!! Try leaving a book for your friends and family and then not speaking with themagain and see how it goes...
@@kingbrolydymonhans5932 How, if you believe in only the Bible can you accept the doctrine of the Trinity, which postdated it 200 years? It would either be revelation, or just the opinion of men who were trying to figure out the Bible.
As an ex-mormon, I can confirm that all of this is true. You need to be married (in the Mormon temple) to enter the celestial kingdom which is already there a works-salvation teaching and just strange...
Ex mormon here too! Now a born again, Bible believing Christian! One thing she left out in this otherwise spot on synopsis is that in each level of heaven there are three levels only in the top level of the celestial kingdom can you become like God. The way I was taught is that God controls the Celestial Kingdom, Jesus controls the terrestrial kingdom and the Holy Ghost controls the telestial kingdom. But you can only meet God in the highest level of the celestial He never visits any of the lower kingdoms.
Doctrine & Covenants 137:7 "Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God; 8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom; 9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts."
@@BingChilling914 actually you can be saved in the lowest degree of the celestial kingdom without being married, but you must have accepted Jesus Christ and his gospel.
You never ever read any book of the church, you only need to marry someone to get exaltation, its one of the glory states in the celestial kingdom, there are two more that were not revealed
ChrisXmusics: “You never ever read any book of the church, you only need to marry someone to get exaltation, it's one of the glory states in the celestial kingdom, there are two more that were not revealed.” I have read and continue to read the Standard Works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints which contains the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price. Doctrine & Covenants 132:7 “And verily I say unto you, that the conditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, and that too most holy, by revelation and commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this power (and I have appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this power in the last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred), are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.” The Holy Spirit of Promise must seal a marriage to be in effect after death.
This is simply an educational video, not an attack on anyone. It is likely that "investigators" don't know these critical details & they have the right to know the differences in religions. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. It is FREE & SIMPLE & offers ETERNAL LIFE.
Susan: You said, " I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ". Answer me a simple question if you would please... What are the basic principles of the gospel that you love?
@@christopherfoote4643 Of which the first is to believe. Sadly many today refuse to accept the Book of Mormon Another Testament of Jesus Christ, and in doing so claim him to be a different Jesus making the same mistake of the Pharisees in New Testament times.
Unfortunately no. Lds believers will tell you that after death, if they have done "their part", then Jesus will make up the rest, or make up what they could not do, sort of like saving grace I guess.
Longe sadly no they are Never assured if they were they wouldn’t have to always work hard to be right with Jesus Mormons dont believe in being saved that’s why it’s a worked men made religion hope this helps.
If you read 2 Nephi 25:23 it tells them they are saved "AFTER all they can do". For some Mormons, this has different meanings. 1) If they haven't done enough, then they may not get into the Celestial kingdom and have to settle for the 2nd level. There must be some formula where "good works" = 50 and Jesus atonement is another 50 providing the 100 points needed to get into the 1st level. If Jesus has to supply more than 50 points, then they are demoted to Telestial. 2) If they haven't done enough, then Jesus uses His atonement to make up the ALL the rest of their payment for their sins. There is no point system, so it doesn't matter how much "work" they have done, Jesus will always fill in the gap. Most believe (1) is the standard practice so that none of them will be too lazy to "work" for their salvation and to "work" as in some pride to show off to others that they were "perfect" enough to reach the highest level. This is similar to those getting to be on the Dean's List or graduating Suma Cum Laude. It's all to show off their good deeds despite the fact that Ephesians 2:8-9 reminds us that we are NOT given salvation by our works so that no one can boast. Those that believe (2) are the non-aggressive Mormons that use this excuse as their interpretation so they can not worry if they are doing enough for their salvation and hope that Jesus will fix the rest for them. Some Mormons will actually chastise other Mormons if they are thinking this is the interpretation, usually those that have years of "good works" behind them and love to boast.
As a born again Christian I agree. Former Mormon here and I’m glad this video was made. The true God of the Bible is LOVE not anger as taught by Mormons.
Anger? Where were you when the "God is love" lesson was taught? And if you are judging the doctrine of the LDS church by the actions of some members, that is a false standard.
@@misssue1824 Sister please understand that Jesus died on the cross that is where he atoned for our sins, not the Garden of Gethsemane. Since I take it you are Mormon to have understood that I leave you with a KJV Bible verse. Jesus is Lord God. He has always been and always will be. Lucifer and Jesus were never brothers. Enough said. Praise JESUS. “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9 KJV
@@Moose-iz1uo Do you ignore Luke 22:39-44 and Mat 26:67? Jesus suffered the agony of the garden, sweating great drops of blood. How do you explain that agony if is was not a part of the atonement? Read Isaiah 53:4-9 which describes the atonement- carrying our sorrows in the garden, wounded and bruised in the treatment by the Jewish leaders, the stripes the whip Pilate ordered on His back. The cross was the final and very public stage the Savior went through. Very few at the time knew what He went through in the garden before His arrest. The cross therefore became the symbol of the entire scope of the atonement. But in the end, the bottom line is that He atoned for us. That's what counts. If you don't want to believe that Lucifer was in the spirit world with Jesus and drew away the third of the host of heaven (Rev 12:4) in His anger, you can. But let's look at Galatians 1 in context. What is Paul saying in verse 6? "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ UNTO ANOTHER GOSPEL." The believers in Galatia were "troubled by some who were perverting the gospel of Christ. They were already allowing the truth they knew to be corrupted. Then what happened? Read 2 Thes 2:3, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come (the second coming of Christ), except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." The words "falling away" are a nice way to translate the Greek word apostasia. It is apostasy. It was something that had to happen before Christ comes again. Look at Acts 3:18-21. The suffering of Christ had been fulfilled. The church is told to repent and be converted to be prepared for the times of refreshing when Christ would come again. However, that would not happen until there was the time of restitution of all things. The "restitution" is a restoration in the Greek. What is being restored? Apostasy and restoration before the Lord comes again was foretold. What happened to the New Testament Church? Where did it go? When you quote Gal 1:9, be aware of the actual message, which was for the Galatian church then, not some future day. Another angel will come with the missing gospel not long before the judgment comes and Babylon falls. Rev 14:6 "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people." If the gospel was always on the earth, why is this angel bringing it to be taught to ALL people?
@@Moose-iz1uo You seriously pull out Gal 1:8-9? Read it from verse 6. The context is not the future, but what was happening right then in the Galatian church. They were going astray. 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us the church would go into apostasy. "Falling away" or "rebellion" is a poor translation of the Greek word 'apostasia'. 1 John 2:18 & 4:3 warn of it- the false teaching that Christ had no physical body. Acts 3:20-21 tells us Christ would not return until the times of restitution. This is not the Garden of Eden, or before the Fall, but what would be lost in the apostasy. Why are you so hung up on the cross, when it was a symbol of the total suffering and death of Christ? Read Luke 22:41-44. What was Christ doing in Gethsemane when He sweat great drops of blood in agony and asked if there was another way?
@@misssue1824 Sister who is lost astray. You worship the Devil and don’t even know it. Christ Jesus died for all our sins therefore we are forgiven. Read Isaiah 43:10 and Isaiah 44:8 and while you’re at it Read 1 Timothy 6:15-16 and John 1:18. Joseph Smith was a false prophet and the Mormon church is built on a lie. You will never become Gods and that’s ok because Jesus died on the Cross so that you and I may live. Our Lord rose from the dead conquering death.
@@mormonicu5834 you just despise any form of authority, no? I'm thinking you don't like any religions? Am I right? It's not about going to church anyway. It's about a personal relationship with Yashuah. Churches are about to fall from these money changers. People are so darn asleep, they can't discern the weather above their heads. Ever hear of Wormwood? Maybe when it is seen by all, it will make many believers out of many haters? When you see this with your own eyes, you will automatically know HE lives.
@@kingdomofhope3371Intolerance through pride. Hatred through pride. Deception through pride. I'm not a stupid person and I know my choices. If there were a way to prove one religion superior to another it would have been done long ago. Just go away.
And we continue to remind the world that Mormon language is not Christian language. They speak our Christian tongues & use our terms. Yet, they do not mean the exact same things. Jesus sayeth: "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." (Matt 11:30). In Mormonism--it is very difficult, heavy and burdensome.
"For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." excellent comment. don't expect the mormons to get it though. it is a very difficult thing for them to say, "i can't do it. i cannot be good enough. i cannot do enough. i believe that salvation can only can to me as a favor."
N8V Patriot MAGA 2020: Acts 3:20 "And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people." So, what does this Christian language mean there Bible scholar?
@@dleoburns It is referring to Jesus Christ. But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; 20 and that He may SEND JESUS, THE CHRIST appointed for you, (not Joseph Smith) 21 whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time. 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren; to Him you shall give heed to everything He says to you. Stephen mentions Moses' prophecy, also. Acts 7 This is the same Moses whom they earlier rejected, saying, ‘Who put you in charge of us?’ This is the Moses that God, using the angel flaming in the burning bush, sent back as ruler and redeemer. He led them out of their slavery. He did wonderful things, setting up God-signs all through Egypt, down at the Red Sea, and out in the wilderness for forty years This is the Moses who said to his congregation, ‘God will raise up a Prophet just like me from your descendants.’ ********** Joseph Smith was not Jewish, so the prophet that Moses, Peter and Stephen are referring to could not have been him. The prophet that God would raise up would be a descendant of Abraham. (Joseph Smith claimed to be descended from the tribe of Ephraim, but that is just pretend. People from the tribe of Ephraim were not allowed to hold the priesthood. Also, Ephraim's mother was black. People from the tribe of Ephraim could not hold the priesthood, according to LDS, because they were black. Joseph Smith was black.) The disciples were wondering when God would restore the kingdom. (not the gospel) Acts 1 When they were together for the last time they asked, “Master, are you going to restore the kingdom to Israel now? Is this the time?” 7-8 He told them, “You don’t get to know the time. Timing is the Father’s business.
Who said it is burdensome Never enjoyed life more till I got in the church. It's absolutely wonderful. That's why millions do it. You people act like what millions enjoy and love is a jail sentence. Fake news everybody.
I recently removed myself from the mormon church and believe that the church uses three tools to manage members shame, guilt, and fear. With the faith of my childhood crushed I am struggling to find faith in anything at this point. This bothers me that I am left with nothing after the mormon church. It is sad and very lonely.
Hi Jon! You're not left with nothing, even though it feels that way. I understand that Mormonism has been your entire world and also your worldview and without it, it may feel like all hope and truth and joy and even community is gone... but that doesn't have to be the case. You can still find TRUE hope, joy and peace through Biblical Salvation because God is absolutely real and Jesus died for you! Joseph Smith took Jesus and turned Him into a false Christ that is taught in Mormonism. Galatians chapter 1 in the New Testament warns against this because it's been happening since 1AD. False prophets are nothing new. Mormonism has vast similarities to Islam and to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Once Mormonism crumbles, it's important to read your Bible to see that the truth you've been missing is right there in the Word of God. Not "as long as it's translated correctly" either.. that's a tactic to get LDS members not to trust the Bible and to rely on the Book of Mormon, D&C and Pearl of Great Price. Those books are in total contradiction to the Bible and are also historically inaccurate. You'll find that the Bible has stood the test of time and is historically accurate, verifiable and is the only book to offer a systematically coherent worldview. Who are we? Where did we come from? Why are we here? What's our purpose? Where are we going after death? ...All of those questions are answered in the Bible. There are incredible Bible-believing churches out there where you can join the community of worldwide born again believers in Biblical Christianity. Your faith journey should not end with a false religion like Mormonism.. praise the Lord that you know its false so you can begin seeking the truth. I pray with all my heart that you get Biblically saved and declare the true Jesus Lord of your life. If you're searching for a solid church that preaches from the Word of God, I would love to help you find one. If you're searching for answers, I'd love to point you towards the New Testament of your Bible... John, Roman's, Hebrews... and also Bible teachers like Ravi Zacharias and David Jeremiah. I don't want you to be left alone but pray that you will find a Christian community that can help you grow and help you find answers and also community and fellowship. Don't give up on God because your church taught a false god. God is real and He created you for a purpose. Heaven is rejoicing that another Mormon found out the truth about his false religion and now you have a Christian (me) praying that you'll come to saving faith in the true Jesus. I care about you and your eternal soul. That's why I'm on TH-cam. Reach out to me any time. Itsmejessieo@outlook.com Love, Jessie
@@itsmejessie Thank you for your encouraging and kind words. It is more than any of my "friends" from the LDS church have offered. Really none of them talk to me anymore. I think that I need to take my time before I jump into a new religion. It would probably be good for me to work on defining what is spirituality for me independent of an organized religion. Your videos have been helpful for me and just wish more of my LDS friends would open their minds and allow themselves to see things are they really are.
@@jong9173 the booklet that helped me was mere christianity by c s lewis. if you are able to replace mormonism with the the famly of god, it will be to your benefit. but i'm not pushing anything, that's just my perspective. you can get mere christianity free from internet archive. free as in free beer
@@longnamenocansayy Absolutely, I actually have read all the CS lewis books and have them already. I have been listening to On Being with Krista Tippett. For me I feel like I need to deconstruct the definition of God that I was indoctrinated with growing up in the LDS church. I am having to balance a difficult situation because my wife and children are still active in the LDS church. I have to be careful talking about my feelings about the LDS church around my children because my wife is not okay with that but I have had some one on one talks with my kids but it is hard. I appreciate your suggestion. It has been a while since I read CS Lewis, Mere Christianity. It would probably serve me well to read it again.
@@jong9173 within 6 months of my accepting the grace of god, and his work of salvation, my wife divorced me, and i was cast adrift into life alone without a family with not much more than my faith in god. so i know as much as anyone what can happen. that was 40 years ago. that whole period was the hardest time of my life, but also looking back, the time when my understanding developed the most. if you would like to email me for whatever reason: jordy0545@gmail.com.
Thank you for this forum Jesse. I had 45 years in the LDS church with 7 "born under the Covenant" children when I left the church. I was a voracious reader years before the internet, I learned the difference between the fear-based control drama of Joseph Smith, and his (oxymoronic and ever-changing) "restored gospel, and the Gospel of Jesus The Christ, in a time when acquiring this information took months of digging for it, not seconds. It took years for me to weed through my own cognitive dissonance, to understand that I had literally dedicated my life to a doctrine that contained the "philosophies of men mingled with scripture". Mormonism taught me that the Resurrection of the body is undeniably important, but merely a component in the grand scheme of things. Years of studying the standard works, and other Church Publications, combined with many hours of Prayer and regular Temple attendance, lead me to the inescapable conclusion, that Joseph Smith's Doctrinal Contributions and blood sacrifice, was regarded as being at least equal to the atonement Jesus made on Calvary. Years later, all seven of my children are faithful bible-believing and practicing Christians, teaching their own children the love and complete sacrifice of Jesus the Christ. To those studying out your crisis of faith, hang in there, Jesus loves you and wants to have a personal relationship with you.
the internet is such a blessing. when i was young, if i wanted to know something i had to go to the library. that meant saturday if someone would take me. if the library had a book in their collection that was a good thing. if they didn't i would never know anyway. with the internet you have a big big library at the touch of your finger, and sites like this to listen to other people, and think about what they say. young people don't know how it could take you many years to find out what they have immediate access to . the hand of God is on your children so you have a full life. it was a bumpy ride but worth it in the end.
I'm so glad you concluded with the Gospel. Yes, Christ's death is sufficient for anyone who calls on His Name. Praise God for His mercy and His Son for His sacrifice. The Mormons are listening Jessie, good job.
Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. What is the Will of the Father? John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Not to believe in a fake God or a fake Jesus. The one True Jesus/Yeshua (Acts 4:12, no other name under Heaven whereby men must be saved), 1 Timothy 2:5 the only Mediator between God and Man. Not no so called prophet or any elder, none other then Jesus. Hebrews 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Apparently it isn’t that easy to be a true believer, because folks believe so many lies and false doctrine which change who the True Jesus is. So as it says in Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, or insert Christian or Mormon or any other title. Be the genuine article. It’s unreal how the enemy created a doctrine produced by devils to seduce folks. We don’t want anyone to be lost. We can do nothing in ourselves to right the sin nature we have under the curse of Adam. And every single sin will be answered for that each of us commit. Not one will slip by without being satisfied by the wrath of God. The only God. (Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin), Jesus in short took the curse of sin upon Himself for every single sin of those who truly believe in the True Christ. Which in short Jesus in a legal term became the penal substitute for us. So it’s like coming to the judge and saying I know he is guilty of all these sins which is to break the law. Like sexual sins or murder just to name some really bad ones. Apostle Paul and King David know the forgiveness. But Christ paid for our crimes against God for us. Past present and future. All. So we don’t get saved for the moment forgiven for past and present. Christ went to the cross for all. As long as you are in this temporal vessel you will always struggle with sin. Think about, when you receive your new glorified body which will not be capable of corruption. Not even those thoughts that enter your mind that we try to put out of our minds will even enter. So yes it is all Christ work for us and none of our own. This is part of believing in the True Christ, to know He has done it all. But so many have not trusted in Him in this way.
Your videos are extremely helpful! I have been studying lds doctrine for 7-8 yrs so that I can fiqure the best way to communicate with them. Your videos help very much. There is a ward less than 1/2 mile from my house, so I try often to talk when they are willing. I live on the east coast (Bible Belt) and I've learned that all the missionaries I meet are from the Western part of US. This does not make it easier to talk with them. They are all very sweet and polite, but in conversation I truly feel anything I present is not being received. That doesnt surprise me though. I'm meeting with 2 young gentlemen this afternoon that haven't met with me at length before. Probably like the others, after the second meeting, they won't talk or answer my calls anymore. Pray for Gods Holy Spirit to help me plant a seed. Hopefully someone or something will water the seed in the near future. God Bless all Yall!!
@@misssue1824 I have read the BOM. I highlighted and tab marked many pages for future reference, such as has been presented now. I thank you. If you truly want to,”with an open heart and mind”, have a cordial discussion, we’ll have to go a little at a time. Even reading my previous post I typed too much. I’ll start at the Introduction page. J Smith said,” I told the brethren the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by it’s precepts, than by any other book.” I presume that you agree with this statement? And if so, you agree the BOM will lead any man or woman closer to God than The Bible?
@@Deschein19Eli23 Yes I am totally open to a civil discussion. I should be more humble and I do get snarky with people out here sometimes but if someone were attacking your faith as they are mine I don't think you would be very pleased. This is bigotry. Imagine if someone attacked Navajo ceremonies or made fun of Buddhists. There would be a public outcry. Yet everybody piles on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and there are more everyday. So having said that, the Book of Mormon is the keystone of my faith. It is the most correct book in that it teaches principles of the Gospel that are only partially explained in the Bible. Those principles include baptism, the gift of the Holy Ghost, and what the sacrament is. The Book of Mormon clarifies each one of those critical concepts. This is why it can lead a person to a higher understanding than the Bible does. They compliment each other and the main purpose is to testify of Christ in more than one place. Two witnesses were mandatory in Jewish law to reach a verdict. The other purpose is to prepare us for the difficulties before the Second Coming. One thing you said caught my attention about reading and highlighting things. Am I correct that you have only listened to the negative side and have marked the ones they feature as "problems" with the Book of Mormon?
@@misssue1824 I respectfully understand what you mean in the first part of your response. I am sorry that there are people out there only to attack and not have “meaningful , cordial and respectful” conversations with others. The “others” being You, of course. They will have to answer for their ways. You say that the BOM is the Keystone to your faith. Respectfully I ask if you could please give a Yes or No to this question. Do you Claim that the BOM is More Important (as though how would You rank them #1 & #2) than The Bible?
I met with the missionaries last week and they said they believed in the same God as me I said "No, you believe in some dude playing a dude disguised as another dude from another world who has a wife who he has sex with to produce intelligences with like Jesus, who is an intelligence 2 spirit baby who worships a redeemed sinner who worships another Jesus. " They were surprised, but agreed with me
LOL!!! You are right on point!! Yeah, someone responded to you saying “that wasn’t Christ Like”. Maybe he’s right. But you’re only telling them the Truth!! Of which you say they agreed with!!! And if they agreed!!!!???? Then they admitted (and sadly, probably not realizing it) that they are Brainwashed!! Fact is, it’s Sad. All we as Christians (believers in God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit, which is ONE God!!) should plant a seed, in Love for our brother or sister, pray that the Lord water that seed. Ironic note that most may know: in the BOM literally the 4th page titled “The Testimony of The Three Witnesses” the last sentence says (you can look this up yourself if need!) “And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.” There’s only One way to Interpret what this means. And it’s the very thing that Mormons deny! And it’s written in the introductory pages of the BOM!
The Bible is very clear on our Lord Jesus Christ and His plan of Salvation. Believe and have Faith in Christ Jesus. Thank you for your video. Keep up the Amazing work for our Lord.
She is the heretic and you are unwise. Christ didn't create multiple churches. Catholics messed up the Bible and is based in Rome. Romans killed Christ. Catholics killed men who wanted to get the Bible into the common man's hands and not just clergy. So, Christians killing Christians is what Christ taught? No way. The Catholic church is the origin of most Christian churches such as Methodist, Lutheran, Baptist, Presbyterian, Amish, etc. So Christianity of Catholicism and those churches is false! Catholics messed up the Bible. Wise up! This woman is a wolf. You are blind!
Their doctrine makes it pretty easy to get into heaven. At least 1 of the 3 anyway. I don't understand how lds folks fall for doctrines that are so far removed from the biblical presentation. Thanks Jessie!
@@AntonydenDulk Jesus believed in a limited atonement. God so loved the world God is not willing that any should perish.... God desires all men to be saved.... Jesus Christ took away the sin of the world.... But few will believe. Matthew 7 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
@@AntonydenDulk But if you are not in Christ your spirit will not be made alive. Everyone is born spiritually dead. Eph. 2 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins,... The brother of Lucifer never existed. The LDS 'Jesus' is another Jesus that never really existed. That means that every LDS person is not in Christ. They are not in the true Christ who claimed to be God. Everyone will be resurrected. God has already said that. Rev. 20 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
@@fayelewis5476 So you believe that everyone who has never heard of Christ is going to burn in a lake of fire forever. Furthermore everyone who has been misled by the misunderstandings of man is going to burn forever. Does it matter if Lucifer / Satan is the brother of Christ or not? If so, why? I keep hearing that if you have faith that Christ died on the cross for your sins that you are saved, that nothing else is important. And yet those same people claim that if you have misunderstandings about who is or is not the brother of Christ or any other teaching about God and His nature then you are damned. Which is it? We want you to be saved with us and we are willing to overlook all your false doctrines and accept you into God's house with us. You on the other hand seem to want to claim your place in God's house and have us damned. I seriously hope for your sake that our understanding of God is better than yours since your understanding will damn you to burning forever if you misunderstand anything about what God is trying to teach us. Faye, whatever you say about us you must admit that our God is far more loving and compassionate than your God is. My God has given the ultimate sacrifice so that all who will accept Him will be redeemed and it does not matter if it is here on this Earth or after death. My God has supplied a way that even the dead can be saved, He has supplied a way for all to hear and learn about Him so that they may accept Him.
Thank you for your videos. Great insight. The Gospel is this 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJVS [1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
So mormons basically threw away the greatest gift ever given to mankind. It's pure blasphemy to make up or add to God's perfect word. I feel sorry for the people who are just born into this so called religion. I hope they find the TRUTH.
I also want to add that Brigham Young said that if anyone left the Mormon church that he believes that you should be put to death. Pay with your life. I was shocked 😲 and in disbelief when I frist heard this but yes it's a true fact .atonement is what he called it for leaving the church .It's such a cult honestly a scary one at that .
the cult of mormonism was so bad that the united states federal government actually sent an army to utah to make them quit all the theft and murders. but as bad as they were to nonmembers, strangers, travellers, or even territorial judges, they were worse to their own members. if some bishop wanted your pretty young fiancee, you could have your blood drained out to personally atone for adultery, and the girl would be added to the bishop's harem. it's all documented. jessie has a vid. about mountain meadows massacre.
john d lee the man executed for mountain meadows massacre wrote his confessions and gave his confessions to his lawyer. the mormon church sent their blood atoners to his lawyers office, and his lawyer was so afraid that he had to have an armed guard present while he copied the confessions for publication. then wells fargo was so afraid that they would not transport the confessions to the publisher without an armed guard present. i think mormonism is a filfthy disgusting little cult and it should be wiped off the face of the earth. the only way they were able to get so far was the the very real threat of death they held over everybody. 120 men women and children knifed gunned or bludgened to death in 1857 at the command of brigham young. 20 years later one man one man only was executed for the massacre. that was john d lee. that's how much power the murdering cult of mormonism has. it took 20 years for the courts of the united states of america to have enough power in utah to convict anyone of mountain meadows massacre. the mormons deny everything. then act like a dirty little cult at every turn. if they were honest they would open up their vaults for public examination and every one in the world would see what a dirty filfthy lying bunch of scum the mormon church is.
One of the many sad things about the LDS is their requirements could never be understood, much less met, by people in third world countries. How can LDS honestly tell such people, "if you want to go to ( the "best") Heaven, you have to perform all these rituals to get there?" The true Gospel is simple, easy enough for a child to understand. Believe, repent, accept Jesus. That's IT. Anyone who does will WANT to serve God out of love, not fear.
That's what their temples are for. Go to NewNameNoah's TH-cam channel. You are expected to do these and others to be considered for the Celestial Kingdom.
Headless Horseman Yes, their belief is that there are 3 heavens, and only Mormons go to the best one. They think baptism is required, but I know that the thief on the cross, my 96 yr-old friend who accepted Jesus & my stillborn daughter went to Heaven without baptism. If you discover all the Mormons believe, you'll be shocked at how bizarre & demanding their religion is. Even as a Baptist, I believe people of other religions will go to Heaven.
Headless Horseman it goes to show how ridiculous & arrogant Mormons are, thinking they are the only true church. Oh, and check out the truth about Joseph Smith. The more you research, the more bizarre & unbiblical they become. I am praying for them to realize the simplicity of the Gospel, how ANYONE can get to Heaven if they believe, repent & accept Jesus.
@@suzicares2721 as a baptist you can believe whatever you wish about people of other religions going to heaven. But that doesn't change what scripture actually teaches. It doesn't change the actual doctrine. "I am the way, the truth & the life". What you believe is false doctrine
I was Mormon most my life but would never enter a temple as an adult because of the cult Masonic rituals. I eventually broke my programming and am born again.
If Christ himself restored it. Because of corrupt teachings then it is the same gospel that was preached back then. Something for you to take to heart.
Your videos are great Jessie. And they keep getting better. The ending of this is awesome and is what being a disciple of Christ is all about. My wife and I just got back from Italy. Spent 5 days in Rome. Though I’m not a Catholic, it was aw inspiring to see some of the places that some of Jesus disciples and the Apostle Paul walked and where some of them were martyred and buried. We were right around the corner from where the apostle Paul spent time imprisoned, where his letters were written and sent out. Saw the Basilica of the Apostoli XII where Phillip and James are buried, St. Peters Basilica where Peter is buried. Later we went to the San Marcos basilica in Venice where Mark is buried (Wells parts of him anyway) lol. All of this rich history that I had the opportunity to experience right there only deepened my Faith in Christ. The point of my sharing is that it is so nice that we have actual history of things that we can actually go and see. “The evidence of things”. I feel bad for our LDS friends that their Faith is completely blind. I know we are to have Faith in Jesus but it sure is nice to be able to go look into the history as well! Kudos Jessie and keep up the good work.
What is a generation? the lifespan of a human,40to80 years usually no more than 100,right? How do we test the truthfulness of a prophet ? we go to God’s word, right? 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 Joseph Smith prophesied in 1832: 1 A revelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they united their hearts and lifted their voices on high. 2 Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the restoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his prophets, and for the gathering of his saints to stand upon Mount Zion, which shall be the city of New Jerusalem. 3 Which city shall be built, beginning at the temple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and dedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased. 4 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city New Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in this(currant)generation.👈🏻👀👂🏻 5 For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the glory of the Lord, which shall fill the house. D & C 84:1-5 Is anybody from that generation still alive? did that happen?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 So confident of this “prophecy” was the church, that even the Mormon apostle Orson Pratt decisively affirmed in 1870 that: “The latter-day Saints just as much expect to receive the fulfillment of that promise during the generation that was in existence in 1832 as they expect that the sun will rise and set tomorrow. why? because God cannot lie. he will fulfill all his promises.”
It would take a book to go through all the failed prophecy and revelations of the LDS early years. An apocalyptic premillianialist sect of the primitive/restorationist movement that took a hard left turn.
i'm Dustin ask me about my church I know enough about your church. It is bizarre, complicated & unbiblical. PLEASE read The New Testament, as a child. You will find that Jesus paid the price for our sins & shortcomings. He saved the thief on the cross, no baptism necessary. The Gospel is simple and beautiful.
What is the way? It's just like the quotes from the Bible that I already gave you from Christ, keeping the commandments and enduring to the end!!! Continued...
We just finished studying Exodus and the beautiful image of God freeing the Israelite slaves from pharaoh through Moses which points us to God saving us from the slavery of sin and Satan through Jesus. When the Mormon missionaries, come to my door (or the JW's just recently), I know what they are offering...... shackles. And to take the good news of Christ and his free gift and reject it thinking I could ever earn it.......pure slavery. It's going back to Egypt.
@@peaceliberty4allHello. Thanks for responding. Just for clarification, you believe that you are saved by grace alone?(And by grace I mean an unmerited gift from God, that God saw your helpless, hellbound state and stepped in and saved you.). No works. Because I have always been told "grace after all that you can do."(You do your best and Jesus does the rest" OR faith without works is dead.). I do believe faith without works is dead btw that chapter(James) is written to believers (calling the recipients brethren over and over) not to people telling them how to earn salvation. Is this what you mean? Thanks.
@@10529Erin I grew up in the church I, nor anyone I know, believes they can earn their salvation, ONLY through Jesus Christ are we saved. I understand why people have the misconception that we think we are saved by works. We put a lot of emphasis on living the commandments, after all Christ taught if ye love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). When the rich man asked Christ what he needed to do to gain eternal life Christ spoke of the commandments and forsaking all. We were taught we should try to follow the Savior's teachings and strive to be like him and be examples of the believers 1 Tim 4:12. but we know that doing all these things will not save us, no amount of obedience or good works can save us, only in and through the sacrifice of the Savior are we saved. As for "all we can do" it would be nice if people would look at that scripture in context, it was written before the birth of Christ 2 Nephi 25:23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. 24 And, notwithstanding we believe in Christ, we keep the law of Moses, and look forward with steadfastness unto Christ, until the law shall be fulfilled. 25 For, for this end was the law given; wherefore the law hath become dead unto us, and we are made alive in Christ because of our faith; yet we keep the law because of the commandments. 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins. 27 Wherefore, we speak concerning the law that our children may know the deadness of the law; and they, by knowing the deadness of the law, may look forward unto that life which is in Christ, and know for what end the law was given. And after the law is fulfilled in Christ, that they need not harden their hearts against him when the law ought to be done away. 28 And now behold, my people, ye are a stiffnecked people; wherefore, I have spoken plainly unto you, that ye cannot misunderstand. And the words which I have spoken shall stand as a testimony against you; for they are sufficient to teach any man the right way; for the right way is to believe in Christ and deny him not; for by denying him ye also deny the prophets and the law. 29 And now behold, I say unto you that the right way is to believe in Christ, and deny him not; and Christ is the Holy One of Israel; wherefore ye must bow down before him, and worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul; and if ye do this ye shall in nowise be cast out. 30 And, inasmuch as it shall be expedient, ye must keep the performances and ordinances of God until the law shall be fulfilled which was given unto Moses.
@@peaceliberty4all Sorry I didn't respond earlier. Not sure why I'm not getting notifications. This was interesting. Has Christ fulfilled the law?(Gal. 3:19 although 18 is good too) Or is that in the future? I believe in works but as a result of salvation as in the book of James. I also believe in the Law to be used as a mirror (Romans 3:20). And Moses was known as the minister of death(2 Corinthians 3:7) because the law convicts us of sin because its purpose is to show us that we are incapable of keeping ANY of it. In Romans it's says if you break one little piece you're guilty of all of it. Period. And lots of people think they haven't broken #7 and #6. Well Jesus makes sure you know you did because lusting is adultery and hating is murder. So that means all of us(after reaching puberty) have broken all 10. We can't stand before the Lord and claim ANYTHING but the blood of the Lamb as to why we should be allowed into Heaven. I'm really glad you mentioned context because that is Paramount. That is why I will NEVER pray about the book of mormon. I am told James 1:5 by missionaries. But that book is written to believers(brethren) in a context of testings and trials. And the verse starts with a "But" which means read verses 1-4 too. It is about staying faithful in a time of great persecutions and trials and temptations to fall away from it. Thanks for responding. I enjoyed reading it.
@@10529Erin Yes, Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses. I believe wholeheartedly in the statement, "We can't stand before the Lord and claim ANYTHING but the blood of the Lamb as to why we should be allowed into Heaven." " I believe in works but as a result of salvation as in the book of James." We don't believe that only those who have been born again should strive to follow the Savior and his teachings. Anyone who claims to believe in Christ should obey his word. Christ said if ye love me keep my commandments. Believing in Christ does not equal being saved, that comes from being born again and there are few Christians, of any denomination including my own, who have been truly born again. So if you could only do works if you had received salvation (been born again) than that would contradict James as he speaks of doing works in relation to faith. If you believe (faith) than let your works reflect that belief (faith) Perhaps this is where the confusion comes in. Mormons believe that all who profess to believe in Christ should be "example of the believers in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity." 1 Tim 4:12 that involves actions or works. If you have faith in Jesus Christ and his teachings that should be reflected in your actions (works) Which is clearly what James is saying as he gives the example of caring for the poor James 2:14-18 then immediately reminds them that even devils believe in God (a devil would never do the work of God).
Thank you so much for your information and your courage to stand for the TRUTH OF GOD WILL ... I was baptized in the church but I never went to the temple ...God showed me immediately that this was not true and I thank him daily !!! My best friend is a Mormon but threw patience and truly waiting to find the real truth it paid off ... GOD IS GOOD ... and will always show you the true and faithful way .. I pray that my friend will someday receive the true spirit and understand my standing on this and that it was God Way Not mine !!! Life is Good and God’s PLAN IS THE TRUE PLAN OF SALVATION and can not be altered are changed !!! THANK GOD FOR YOUR WILL and COURAGE TO TEACH ALL THATS TRUE THREW GODS WAY ONLY !!! 🙏❤️😇
I live in Utah and often speak with missionaries. I teach them that the cross is a sign of Victory over Death. They say they focus on the life of Jesus because of what he taught us. I said what greater lesson or sacrifice could he give us by salvation and victory over sin and death. I see the wheels turning.
I would suggest you take a close look at the 13 articles of faith and consider from them if it is or isn't biblical Christianity. The gal above might consider teaching the principles of what she believes in. th-cam.com/video/hGfw3rluRSs/w-d-xo.html
because we believe that the bible has been changed and many plain and precious truths been taken out. We believe in continued revelation thrust Gods Prophets today.
@@burnettaroberts4158 Why do the LDS prophets contradict the word of God? We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. - Article of Faith #3 Book of Mormon For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. - 2 Nephi 25:23 "One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206). THE BIBLE Eph. 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [h]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. *********** Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247). THE BIBLE I John 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. ********** Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92). THE BIBLE Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, *********** There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188). THE BIBLE Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." - John 14:6 *********** "This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts," (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697). THE BIBLE Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. *********** There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mormon Doctrine, p.670). THE BIBLE And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name (Jesus) under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. - Acts 4:12
Never happened sister! all made up, fabricated pseudo history, please investigate outside the LDS controlled publication and media, I am telling you in truth, investigate and probe me/probe us wrong...God bless you@@burnettaroberts4158
I'm confused by the comments that God and Jesus are one person, rather than two separate beings. If that's true, who did Jesus cry out to in prayer throughout the bible and on the cross when Jesus says "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do"....was he talking to himself?
Jesus the Christ literally personified God the Father. God the Father is a Spirit and if you read John chapter one, it says that God took on flesh to dwell among us and also that Jesus is the image of the invisible God. He sent the 2nd person of the Trinitarian Godhead to earth to take on flesh, be born in a manger, to live as 100% God and 100% man at the same time. His name was Jesus and He was called Emanuel, which literally translates to "God with us." Jesus was/is God and He humbled Himself to the point of becoming fully human while still having His full Diety. He was perfect. No other human has or will ever be perfect besides Jesus, the "God-man." Because Jesus took on full limitations of humanity, he felt pain and sorrow and temptation and grief although He remained Holy and perfect and without sin. In His humanity, He cried out to God the Father many times. Jesus is distinct from God the Father and the Holy Spirit is also distinct. One God, three persons. God the Spirit, Jesus who became man to save the world and God's Holy Spirit who indwells born again Christians at the point of Salvation. But they're all one God but serve different roles. Jesus says frequently in the 4 Gospels, "If you have seen Me, you've seen the Father" because Jesus WAS God. He made the unknowable God of the Old Testament known through Himself. The unseeable God was finally seen through Jesus. It's complicated but it's also so clear through Scripture that God is ONE God but is also Trinitarian.
@@itsmejessie: Jesus Christ personified the Word of God. John 4:24 (AKJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." The Samaritan woman, whom Jesus Christ addressed in this verse, could not have been taught by the Apostles. Matthew 10:5 (AKJV) "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." The Spirit mentioned in John 4:24 is the Holy Ghost as the Spirit of Truth. John 15:26 (AKJV) "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning." John 14:26 (AKJV) "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
So I’m actually an atheist ex Mormon, just to put that out there. Even being atheist though, I am so happy to see people exposing Mormonism for the fraudulent, dangerous, cult that it is (it’s doctrine is somewhat cultish, but it’s culture definitely puts it in the realm of a cult). I would be happy to talk sometime about my tone as a Mormon or my current belief system (though I’d guess it probably won’t happen lol), I have met with a Mormon Mission President since leaving when his missionaries didn’t know how to answer my questions and am the son of an active Mormon Bishop. I did go on a mission, but came home for emotional reasons (as do about a fifth of all Mormon missionaries now). Either way, thank you for doing these videos, they are very well researched, hard hitting and also validating for those who have already left. Thank you!
Jordan Stokes Jordan, I would love to speak with you. I am a Christian and I have been married to my Mormon wife for 20 years now. It’s taken 20 years for her to start to realize something is wrong with Mormonism. It’s taken her 20 years to realize the Jesus I worship is different than the Jesus she knows. I understand both faiths in a deep way. If you want to reach out to me my email is msaenz1977@yahoo.com
@@zmig7793 You need to read the book, Unveiling Grace, by Lynn Wilder. A former BYU professor. Also, watch this short video if you haven't already. th-cam.com/video/r0mckI8Xfl8/w-d-xo.html
@David Hogg cont. Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. 46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? And there are so many more Biblical verses that denote they are not the same being but distinct and separate acting as one. The scriptures that state I and the father are one are clear to understand in light of Christ's words "that they may be one even as we are one" . Him saying if ye have seen the father, ye have seen me is clear to understand when considering a son in the spitting image and likeness of the father (does not make them the same person) Mormons believe in the Godhead, 3 separate and distinct beings acting as one. That belief is biblically supported.
@Headless Horseman I was born into the mormon doctrine so I've always believed in Jesus. Mormons read the bible too however it was revealed to me that the Jesus in the mormon gospel was not the Jesus in the new testament and thats how I ended up being an exmormon I think their doctrine is false. It fools alot of good people. I can see the difference so clearly now but only because God has opened my eyes to it otherwise I'd still believe in it.
@Headless Horseman the mormons have the holy bible kjv however Jo translated it lol so he actually took out a chapter and even added a chapter that prophesy of him and the coming forward of the book of mormon. He made it suit his false doctrine so people would believe him. So lots of people are fooled. Im glad to be free of it. All glory to God.
It's funny how Paul saw someone in the 3rd heaven. 2nd Corinthians C12 V 2 2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. Umm 3rd heaven what comes before 3.. if there is a third heaven there must be a 1st and 2nd.
@@germans1 Nope, he is telling the truth. You and your fake prophets are the liars. Again, why would he name 2 heavens but not the third? Follow the prophet no matter what right?
Maybe this help clarify. 1 Corinthians 15:39 Context 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption Revelation 22:10-11 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand [final judgment]. 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still [telestial kingdom]: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still [outer darkness]: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still [terrestrial kingdom]: and he that is holy, let him be holy still [celestial kingdom]. However, this doctrine of three heavenly kingdoms also appears in the writings of St. Gregory of Sinai (1260s - November 27, 1346) in his On Commandments and Doctrines: "By 'many dwelling-places' (John 14:2) the Savior meant the differing stages of spiritual ascent and states of development in the other world; for although the kingdom of heaven is one, there are many different levels within it. That is to say, there is place for both heavenly and earthy men (cf. 1 Cor. 15:48) according to their virtue, their knowledge and the degree of deification that they have attained. 'For there is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars, for one star differs from another star in glory' (1 Cor. 15:41); and yet all of them shine in a single divine firmament."[3]
yeah if you're a god with your own planets that's the celestial kingdom. actually there's a place you can go. it's kind of like a club house. in fact it's called the celestial kingdom club house. it's kind of boring though, unless you like to gossip about other gods. also if you want to get ministered to by ministering angels you go to the celestial kingdom club house. we won't go down that road too far okay?
@@longnamenocansayy that was hilarious But... The celestial kingdom is where heavenly father is. So, how are you a god of your own stuff when you're supposedly with heavenly father? Also, is there a hot tub in this clubhouse
let me add my opinion of faith vs. works. i don't think the mormons know the difference between faith and works. when the sick man was being lowered down through the roof he had faith that jesus would heal him. he was not working. he was too sick to do any work at all. he could not work. he had faith. his faith was accurate. it was in Jesus. God is calling people to have faith in jesus and become a part of the family of god. if you are working at having your own family and being a god to your own family, on another planet, you have the wrong jesus. the plan of salvation that is in the bible is to have faith in jesus for salvation, just like the sick man had faith in jesus to be healed, we need to have faith in jesus to be saved from hell. we have the spirit of adoption whereby we say abba father. abba means daddy. we have the personal relationship that a father and child have.
@@longnamenocansayy you are not using "faith without works is dead" correctly. Works is the EVIDENCE of the faith, but not the RESULT of the faith. in 2019 we use the phrase "lip-service" to denote those that say something without meaning. "faith without works is dead" is another way of saying "lip-service". For example, if I told my wife that I loved her so much, but did nothing for her, no one would believe that I really loved her and only paying "lip-service". However, if I TRULY love my wife, then I will do everything for her BECAUSE I love her, not to PROVE my faith to her. @Mike K showed you Ephesians 2:8-9 on purpose because if you read that verse at least 20 times (minimum, this way you understand it) unless the Bible has passages that contradict, it even says "NOT OF WORKS". Seriously, read the verse 20 times, not 4 or 17 but 20 times. Maybe you might actually get it into your heart and mind.
@Kenzie K sadly they get it from many who teach it wrong. It gets passed down as truth. It wasn't until I did more study I didn't understand it either.
@Kenzie K the difference between christians not knowing what faith is and mormons not knowing what faith is mountain meadows massacre. now you know what's behind mormonism. 120 dead people murdered at the orders of brigham young.
Pretty accurate. Your videos are bold and full of links and info, which I think is great for those who want to question your info's validation, good job Jess.
The Mormon church is so depressing and the Christian believes is like a breath of fresh air. I sometimes feel like I am going to hell because my family keeps telling me that I am for leaving the Mormon church.
TO: @Laya Halls RE: apostasy ... Leaving the Church does not automatically send someone to hell. It's only a sin if you know it is a sin. Sin is when you know right and do wrong. ... peace
@@harryabelpotter9630 mormons believe that sin is an inconvenient action that can be cut out of your life like a wart. thus you stated the mormon view accurately, "It's only a sin if you know it is a sin" mormons do not believe in sin nature. mormonism is not christian. the christian bible speaks very clearly of sin nature. as for example eve who sinned unkowingly, but was beguiled, and adam who sinned knowingly. the consequences were the same for both of them. god's provision was identical. both of them were covered by the blood that was shed by an animal, and they both were covered by the skins of that animal. later god talks to moses of sin that is unintentional: “The Lord said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, When anyone sins unintentionally…if the whole community sins unintentionally…when a leader sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the commands of the Lord his God, he is guilty.” Leviticus 4:1-2, 13a, 22a there were also intentional sins such as lying, and provisions were made. the most common of all sacrifices was the burnt offering, the burnt offering is associated with the nature of human beings as for example any woman who bore a child: (both a sin offering and a burnt offering were required, Lev. 12:6-8). in christianity, it is our nature to sin. sin is not an extraneous note that can be lanced out of the soul. it is part of our nature. The words of John the Baptist are especially relevant, since he did not say, “who takes away the sins (plural) of the world,” but rather, “who takes away the sin of the world.” Christ as the Lamb of God, as the antitype of the burnt offering, deals with the depravity of man, with man’s sinfulness in general, as well as his sinfulness in terms of specific sins. in christianity, there is no progression to godhood for man because man has a sin nature. there is no amway progression through the tiers. in christianity there is only heaven which comes by unmerited favor of god who is just, or the just judgements of god and condemnation to hell. because of our sin nature, we all sin and there is no meritorious work that can pay for the effects of sin. mormonism is a pagan religion where your degree of righteousness and your eventual tier are rewards for meritorious works. the highest tier level of mormonism, called the celestial kingdom, is marked by numberless concourses of harem trophies and concubines and their offspring, who worship you as god. the end result of mormonism is distinctly pagan and distinctly anti christian. because the most important commandment in all of christianity is: hear o israel the lord our god the lord is one. wiki has an article on sh'ma.
@@harryabelpotter9630 i have no tattoos and my fate is my own. my father hated my mother and bestowed the same hatreds to me because cuckold in his own house. i was always left to wonder. now as strange as it must seem to some people, i consider it a blessing which i see no reason to give up. when i sit in mass i hope they think i am catholic. when i sit with the men in synagogue i wonder, does my yarmulke make me look jewish? and so on....... or do i give offense? should i take off my cloak because it gives offense? paul says....... i was called by the one true god. so i can tell you who my father is. there must be a yearning in your pagan heart. there always will be because you don't know who.
By the way, the ones that are cast into outer darkness are only the devil and his angels, and those who join with him to fight against God! This may include some apostates, but not all. Many are apostates out of gross ignorance, deceived by Satan and his helpers.
As an exmo, with many loved ones still in, I've had no one able to explain how Christ and Bible, according to Mormons, lay out the idea that faith, repentance, baptism, and a life devoted to God, where Christ warns of anything more or less added, but yet now requires new covenants and ordinances. The BoM was said to contain the fullness of the gospel. It has no talks of a requirement for more promises in order to be with family forever.
@@TheRastacabbage 3 Nephi. I believe Chapter 11. He's very specific about how to bless sacrament and what his gospel is. I believe Matt 24 or 25 he gives similar message.
A Mormon claimed the Doctrine and Covenants are true. So the question is, why don’t you believe: LDS doctrine and Covenants 20: 27 As well as those who should come after, who should believe in the gifts and callings of God by the Holy Ghost, which beareth record of the Father and of the Son; 28 Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.
@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792 … but Mormons are not allowed to believe in the Trinity. There should not be any confusion over what you believe. Mormons believe that there are three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Ghost ***** one in purpose***** although no one has been able to show where, in either the Bible OR the BoM, there is any mention of this "one in purpose". It was a figment of JS very vivid imagination. And Mormons certainly do not believe St. John 17:20-26!!!!! Up until the time JS joined the Freemasons, it appears he had a Christian concept of God … 2 Nephi 31:21 etc + D&D 20:28. After he joined the Masons, he changed his mind as is shown in the 7th April, 1844 King Follett Discourse. So … may I inform, once again, that the truth lies with Christians and not with the LDS? The evidence is everywhere one can look in the LDS!!!!! It is just that Mormons listen to the LDS instead of using their God given brains: we are to love the Lord God with all our hearts, and with all our souls, and with all our strength and with all our MINDS and our neighbors as ourselves. It is because we love Mormons who have a genuine desire to live good lives, that we want to rescue them from the lies of the LDS.
@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792 "who said we believe in the pagan ideal of the trinity?" Nobody. Do you reads and understand what it written? This statement of yours makes no sense … along with the beliefs of the LDS. To repeat so that you may get it now: 1. The trinity is not a pagan ideal, it is a firm and foundational belief of Christianity - the LDS claims it is Christian in the LDS Gospel Topic Essays, doesn't it? Or haven't yo read them? 2. There are a whole host of quotations in the BoM confirming the Trinity: 2 Nephi 31:21. Do you know what the definition of the Trinity is? If you did, you would see that this quotation from the BoM is a most accurate definition. If you do not know the definition - that would account for your confusion. 3. D&C 20: 26 is another definition of the Trinity. You do not seem to understand that when JS dictated the BoM when he had his head in a hat with a seer stone (God help us), he did so from a Christian perspective. It was only after he became a Freemason that he changed his mind as is recorded in the 7th April, 1844 King Follett Discourse. You really don't seem to know the details of your own religion. I've read quite widely - so please don't try and correct me when don't understand what you are writing about? "It seems you are the one confused child." This is an insult … is this all you can muster to cover your ignorance of important LDS beliefs? " It is the trinity believers that deny this and want to claim it is only figurative. speaking of 11, 21-23.." It is the LDS that has this wrong and Christians that have it right … but this is just more misleading by the LDS: St. John 17:21 even as thou, Father, in me and I am in thee; … That is the Trinity . If the Father has a body, which the LDS insists … how can Jesus' body be in the Father's body … patently absurd … and this masquerades as an intelligent belief based on the Bible????????? This should correct you and the LDS … but you are not correctable, are you?: Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature. Blessings - the truth will make you free.
I have a question for the Christians please. My brother in law comitted suicide last week. I am struggling. How do I get comfort in your version of God's plan for mankind? Is there hope for my brother in law who was agnostic in his beliefs at the time of his death?
the question is commonly asked on this channel. it's usually some form of gamesmanship. what has god told you? did you ask god? did you fast and pray? how long should you fast and what should the fast consist of? i will tell you straight up, if it's not important to you, it's not important to god. that means if 2 meals fasting is no big thing to you, it's no big deal to god. there are people who fast and pray and read the scriptures constantly. their focus is on god. and there are people who think a good game of marbles is more important than the 30 minutes they spend searching for god. my guess is that most all christians hurt. they hurt a lot. they feel things. they're confused about things. but always their focus is on god and what god wants and what god is doing.
@@Imtryingtobelikejesus-m1m how many times in my life have i heard the same thing? there is no good there is no bad there is no god and if there was a god he would not have a right to judge people. one of the gods in india was named kali. his followers were known as thugs. the thugs of india worshiped their god kali by strangling travelers and stealing all their goods. since life is just an illusion and there is no good and there is no bad what difference does it make what god you worship? isn't that basically what you're all about? one of the more common religions through the ages has been baal worship. masonry is thinly veiled baal worship, and mormonism is thinly veiled masonry. the highpoint of masonry/mormonism is becoming a god. good and bad are all mixed up in both traditions. in mormonism e.g. adam had to fall to know good and evil and becoome a god. in masonry a man is a composite of good and bad like the black and white squares of a checkerboard. mormonism borrows a lot from masonry, for example: the secret handshakes, the square and compass, beehive, and other masonic symbolism. the highpoint of mormonism is having lotsa lotsa wives and populating other earths and being a god to all your posterity. mormonism is basically a sex cult, which is what baal worship is at the core.
@@longnamenocansayy Guess we are just talking in circles once again. This "sex cult" has taught me to only have sex with one guy - my husband. He has been and will alway be the only one I have sex with. And this "multi God cult" has taught me to only worship one God. Go figure.
I love what you're doing Jessie. Keep it up. People need to know the truth. I just stumbled upon a video trying to debunk you, but I had to stop it 5 minutes in when I saw how biased they were in trying to defend The Book of Moron. Talk about a lost cause!
You are equating Salvation and Eternal life. They are not necessarily the same. The Bible sometimes speaks to being saved from death and hell (a pure gift of love and grace from God) and sometimes being saved unto the glory of eternal life (a gift of both divine grace and personal effort in our quest to follow our Savior and be like Him). To be crystal clear, we are saved by Grace alone. This is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints position, and always has been it's position. However, pretty much the whole of the New Testament supports that we actually need to be Christian, and not just say we are Christian. If you read the Bible, how many times in the New Testament has an emphasis been placed on keeping the commandments?? Jesus, Paul and everyone else focused on this over and over and over. Jesus gave the commandments! He had great respect for the commandments! "Good Master, what must I do to have Eternal Life?" Jesus replied "Keep the commandments." Could a more clear or straightforward answer be given? Grace saves and justifies us completely. But grace alone does not sanctify us. There is a personal effort involved with sanctification; and sanctification is made possible through the grace of God and our personal efforts in our quest to follow our Savior as we continually and truly repent of our sins, keep the commandments and ordinances of the gospel, and endure faithfully to the end. Only a person that has been transformed by grace may have Eternal Life with our Father in Heaven. Jesus is clear on this. His grace covers our sins and fully redeems us from death and Hell, but it does not fully change us all at once to become a Holy being. That takes time, effort and continued grace. Grace is not just a one time thing. It is as far as salvation is concerned; but it is also a continual process on the path to exaltation and Eternal Life with our Father in Heaven. Again we in no way can do this on our own power or by our own means. Jesus's atonement is infinite and eternal. It needs to be if we have any hope of one day becoming pure in thought, word, action, deed, heart and being, just as Christ is. Paul in particular wanted to make it crystal clear that works will not save us. There are many people I have met that say "I don't need Jesus, I am a good person." That could not be further from the truth, as all our good works "are as filthy rags." There is nothing that we could do on our own power to save ourselves. Christ saves. However, Christ asks us to follow Him, that we might be transformed and have "no more desire to do evil, but to do good continually." Only a person who is transformed in this way can live with God, as this person will indeed keep the laws and ways of God, not only in the letter of the law, but the Spirit of the law also. They will truly be changed and transformed, which of course requires our effort as well as God's continued grace. In order to have Eternal life we must be completely free not only of the consequences of sin, but the tyranny of sin. Could we sin in our Father's house and remain there? No, lest our Father's house be dirty. No unclean thing may dwell with God, and if we continue to sin and cannot abide God's law, then we cannot inherit His glory, nor have place in His same Kingdom. Also, can the mercy of God rob justice? Will the sinner who turns to Christ in his dying breath instantly have Eternal Life the same as Moses and Abraham and Peter and Paul and John the Baptist, who sacrificed everything and committed their whole lives to to God and keeping His commandments and where truly sanctified by the atoning blood of Christ? No; though that sinner will have salvation, he will not inherit that same glory unless he is completely transformed and the reign of sin is completely ended in his being. Romans 6:1-2: "How shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." Eternal life is defined as "knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent" (John 17:3). "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments"; then "Every one that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him" (1 John 1-2) and does not by definition have Eternal Life. It is not enough to know about God, we must know God. And how can we really know Him, except we become like Him and live the way He lives, think the way He thinks, love the way He loves, act the way He would act. That is how we come to know God, how we invite His Spirit into our lives and hearts and have a glimmer of the what it means to have Eternal life. As for the story of the debtor and creditor. Here is furthering the interpretation, which you are missing. The man would go to jail unless the debt was paid in full. When the benefactor (friend) paid the debt, he FREED the man, completely! The man was saved from jail. That's the difference when Christ saved all mankind from death and Hell because He loves us, He really did! You are correct in that. But you are missing the point of this story. What put the man in debt or caused the man to be in debt?? was it not his bad choices. See, this particular benefactor (Christ) loves us even more than we can tell. He wants us to never have problems with debt again! He wants us to learn how to become responsible. He wants us to learn to take care of ourselves and be wise like He is. He wants not only to free us from our current debt, but help us change our minds, hearts and souls permanently and completely! We don't pay Christ or the benefactor at all! But we do learn and are taught from the benefactor and we do owe him our allegiance and loyalty, our hearts and our minds and use the gift He has given us! In fact this benefactor is so generous that he is willing to share all that He has with us! But He does ask that we become responsible first. He asks us that we grow grace from grace and precept upon precept, until we are just like Him, who is perfect in his stewardship. We cannot do this on our own power, or by ourselves, but He promises to help us, be there for us, aid us, lift us and continue to guide us in this process. The creditor saved from jail (death and Hell!) and payment was made in full. But, to inherit all that this beloved benefactor has, requires we are responsible as He is and that we follow the same rules He does and develop the same mind and heart and perfect unity with Him. This does not happen instantly!!!!! There is not a complete and lasting transformation of the believer that suddenly makes him perfectly Holy all at once!! That believer will still fall victim to continual sin and shortcomings. That believer will not be like the Savior in an instant!!! That takes faith, effort, repentance, patience, endurance, hope, charity, obedience, diligence, covenants and willingness to continue to learn from and follow the benefactor. Again Jesus justifies us completely before God and that alone saves us! But that does not immediately sanctify us!! WE MUST CHANGE, we must overcome the wickedness and corruption of the flesh. We must no longer not only be stained by sin, but no longer have sin be the master of our souls. Again we cannot do this alone, we need divine help. We cannot sin and inherit all that God has or dwell in His presence, lest He be unclean also, for no unclean thing can dwell with God. Again Salvation from death and hell is not the same as eternal life! Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." Revelation 22:14-15 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." Hebrews 5:9 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him" It is clear, there are standards. We must become Holy, actually fully transformed beings, who no longer have any disposition to do evil or sin, but to do good continually. It is that inward transformation, which is what following Jesus Christ is all about. We will inherit the Glory that we are able to abide.
you did very well jessie. for the me the most important point was that you explained that since they have an alternate Jesus their faith is false. for christians, salvation comes because of faith in Jesus, but if you have an alternate jesus you don't have faith to begin with. i have never heard the mormon plan of salvation the way you explained it, but i think it's accurate. when the mormons comment that you don't know what you're talking about just take comfort in the fact that they tell sandra tanner the same thing, and she's been studying mormonism for over 50 years, and her family goes all the way back to brigham young. one last thing: mormons sustain the prophet as prophet seer and revelator, but not policy maker. so i'm kind of curious who's making the recent policy changes? they aren't revelations so it can't be nelson. when did the mormon church change from being lead of god by revelation to being lead by policy? just curious. maybe a tbm could comment to my comment.
I like the different Jesus argument since I was a Southern Baptist for 30 years before my 46 years with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So, what is the difference?
Maybe this help clarify. 1 Corinthians 15:39 Context 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption Revelation 22:10-11 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand [final judgment]. 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still [telestial kingdom]: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still [outer darkness]: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still [terrestrial kingdom]: and he that is holy, let him be holy still [celestial kingdom]. However, this doctrine of three heavenly kingdoms also appears in the writings of St. Gregory of Sinai (1260s - November 27, 1346) in his On Commandments and Doctrines: "By 'many dwelling-places' (John 14:2) the Savior meant the differing stages of spiritual ascent and states of development in the other world; for although the kingdom of heaven is one, there are many different levels within it. That is to say, there is place for both heavenly and earthy men (cf. 1 Cor. 15:48) according to their virtue, their knowledge and the degree of deification that they have attained. 'For there is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars, for one star differs from another star in glory' (1 Cor. 15:41); and yet all of them shine in a single divine firmament."[3]
The closest thing Scripture says to there being different levels of heaven is found in 2 Corinthians 12:2, “I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.” Some interpret this as indicating that there are three different levels of heaven. This view has no basis in Scripture. Paul is not saying that there are three heavens or even three levels of heaven. In many ancient cultures, people used the term heaven to describe three different “realms”-the sky, outer space, and then a spiritual heaven. Paul was saying that God took him to the “spiritual” heaven-the realm beyond the physical universe where God dwells. The concept of different levels of heaven may have come in part from Dante’s The Divine Comedy in which the poet describes both heaven and hell as having nine different levels. The Divine Comedy, however, is a fictional work. The idea of different levels of heaven is foreign to Scripture. Scripture does speak of different rewards in heaven. Jesus said regarding rewards, “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done” (Revelation 22:12). Since Jesus will be distributing rewards on the basis of what we have done, we can safely say that there will be a time of reward for believers and that the rewards will differ somewhat from person to person. Only those works that survive God’s refining fire have eternal value and will be worthy of reward. Those valuable works are referred to as “gold, silver, and costly stones” (1 Corinthians 3:12) and are those things that are built upon the foundation of faith in Christ. Those works that will not be rewarded are called “wood, hay, and stubble”; these are not evil deeds but shallow activities with no eternal value. Rewards will be distributed at the “judgment seat of Christ,” a place where believers’ lives will be evaluated for the purpose of rewards. “Judgment” of believers never refers to punishment for sin. Jesus Christ was punished for our sin when He died on the cross, and God said about us: “I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more” (Hebrews 8:12). What a glorious thought! The Christian need never fear punishment, but can look forward to crowns of reward that he can cast at the feet of the Savior. In conclusion, there are not different levels of heaven, but there are different levels of reward in heaven. www.gotquestions.org/levels-heaven.html
Thank you for the video Jessica! I watch all of these and sometimes a couple times. Glad to see you're getting some subscribers and attention too! It's pretty brave to put yourself out there like this talking about a topic that we both know you'll get a lot of pushback on.
Thank you Jessie! I really appreciate your words and instruction. I think I will use this information and these quotes in my Sunday School lesson next week. Very helpful!!
Acts 4:12 “Neither is there salvation IN ANY OTHER: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” Mormons also believe that Jesus himself wasn't God to begin with but a simple man who had to achieve his deity status through the good works of the church. Total nonsense! God is the same yesterday today and forever more and according to John Jesus is God. Jesus never had to achieve anything. He was always God and never just a man. Also, I don't need the redeeming blood of Christ if I can become my own god one day and achieve the Celestial Kingdom. Christ sacrifice is meaningless to me then. No need for it if I can be my own god and create my own planet and have multiple wives on Kolab forever. Lol. Mormonism as fascinating as it is never made any sense to me as a Christian.
@David Hogg cont. Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. (3 separate beings in 3 separate places at one time) John 11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thankthee that thou hast heard me. 42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. John 6: 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but THE WILL OF HIM THAT SENT ME.
The Jesus of the Bible Is salvation, the jesus of Mormonism is not but salvation is earned by being worthy by personal efforts. The Christian Does Good Works as a product of salvation. Mormons do Good works for salvation.
Monster Vodka Good works do not produce salvation. Good works are the product of salvation. Jesus said to His followers, “Let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven” (Matthew 5:16).
@@Raze120 Not in order to gain Salvation, though. Once saved (past tense) our "fruits" or "works" should come naturally as we live to honor and glorify God. Works are not part of the "salvation process" like in a works-based religion but are a natural response to an already saved soul that has been redeemed and transformed by Jesus Christ.
Mormons don't do works for salvation, the Book of Mormon validates this by saying that after all we can do Christ still needs to save us. We do works because we love God and want to do His will by keeping the commandments. We do however believe that the mansion (as the Bible defines it) that we inherit depends on our faithfulness (or how many of our treasures we place in heaven).
@@AntonydenDulk They think this in Nephi 23:25 For all that we know it is by grace through faith after all that we can do. That’s what they believe that’s the Mormon salvation that Mormons know but however it’s unbiblical but the Bible it says otherwise. The Bible says in Ephesians 2:8:9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. That’s the biblical salvation that Christians and most of types of Christians know.
i always say trying to pin down what mormons believe in is like nailing jello to the wall. the official mormon doctrine is quite often so embarrassing they disavow it, in favor of non authorized spin doctors. fairmormon is the spin doctor of choice these days. utah lighthouse has a lot of free information, highly suggested. jessie does a very good job distilling the basics. and a definite plus is listening to her pleasant voice and attractive smile. dan vogel on youtube has a lot of good vidoes on mormonism, but you have to be dedicated to the subject to watch him. any video by sandra tanner here on youtube is worth the watch. she has a very cute sense of humor that pops up onct'while. here's my spin: mormonism is a polytheistic cult. they believe in more than one god, and they believe that they can become a god. they believe in no hell. everyone gets a degree of glory, which they earn according to their works. the highest glory is where men attain godhood, and live with vast harems of women, who they copulate with to produce babies. they are gods to all the babies they produce. quite obviously mormonism is a satanic cult. but you can't tell them that. they believe they are the only true christians on the face of the earth.
longnamenocansayy Thank you very much! Too bad Sandra doesn’t seem to have her own channel. My wife and I love to watch her. Looks like I will do better not to talk with LDS neighbors. God bless you really good!
Helpful websites. carm.org/mormonism www.eternallifeblog.com/jesus-divide-families/ Videos by Sandra Tanner, the great granddaughter of Brigham Young. th-cam.com/video/X6o6KW02w7Q/w-d-xo.html Videos by Jeff Durbin, Mike Winger and Aaron Shafavaloff Truth in Love Ministries Free training on witnessing. Five lessons. beyeperfect.org/ tilm.org/ mit.irr.org/lds-temple-and-lucifers-power-and-priesthood
@@gracemonkey2393 there are many outreaches to mormons. sandra tanner is very well informed, and she has the patience of 10 saints, but there was never a wagon train full of mormons beating a path to her door to get de-programmed. i do not say don't reach out to mormons. i say be prepared for the consequences of what you say and how you approach them. for example, someone told a mormon relative that he couldn't be a mormon because he's not perfect. my mormon relative thought he was complementing her on being a super good person. he meant that his salvation was not assured by his good works, but because god is merciful. so there was a big disconnect between what he was saying and what she heard, which is very common with mormons.
longnamenocansayy I’m having a blast preparing for our LDS neighbors. One gave me BOM and a triple. We have 1830 BOM too. I’m not looking to argue with LDS neighbors but I’m gathering questions that should cause someone to think
The LDS Church have no Priesthood power Since Christ die on the Cross ended animal sacrifice . A the Melchizedek Priesthood is held only by Christ It is nontransferable
Actually he gave it to Peter and his other apostles by the laying on of hands. Peter, James and John visited the prophet Joseph Smith and gave him the Melchizedek Priesthood the same way. How can sacraments and baptisms (that Jesus taught were essential) be done without this authority in Jesus' way?
I think it's funny that Jessie (who does NOT want you to look at the LDS faith with any favor) is an expert on, and can interpret what is taught there. The bottom line is that we as LDS faithful are taught and believe that it is ONLY through Christ that we can be resurrected and gain access to the blessings of heaven. Every person receives that as a free gift. But wait, is that all? The answer is "no" if you read everything the Bible says about it. Salvation is also: Mar 13:13 enduring to the end (and what does that mean?) Mar 16:16 Jesus says belief AND baptism Luke 7:50 faith? Acts 2:21 calling upon the name of the Lord (what do you have to say?) Acts 15:11 by grace? Acts 16:31 belief alone? Rom 5:9-11 being justified and reconciled (how?) Rom 8:24 by hope (that’s all?) Rom (10:9 confessing verbally (what do you say?) Eph 2:8 it’s a total gift (and I do nothing?) Titus 3:5 by mercy, “washing” and the Holy Ghost (how is this done?) John 4:22 salvation is of the Jews (we have been on the wrong side?) 2 Cor 7:10 godly sorrow and repentance (how does one repent?) Phil 2:12 working it out with fear and trembling (how?) 2 Thes 2:13 sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth? (what is that?) 2 Tim 3:15 knowing the Old Testament from childhood in order to have faith? Heb 5:9 obedience? If you are wondering how all these verses mesh together into the complete plan God has laid out, you can ask an missionary from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.. Even if you don't believe, are you a fair enough person to see what both sides say and not just believe one point of view?
You are twisting and misinterpreting the Bible. Lds take the Bible and put their own definitions in place of what Christians believe. Missionaries are the last people that can explain the Christian meaning of the Bible. They only know a planned out answer about their church (to a point). They know nothing about the Bible or the true plan of salvation.
@@KathyStrickland-nh9vx: One of the scriptures forming the Standard Works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Authorized King James Version of the Bible.
I can say from the Mormonism that when I was learning about the Book of Mormon from the 2 Missionaries I had said that people who followed God or Jesus Christ. Then those people who go to the Celestial Kingdom. My Mother would be in the second Kingdom. Because she was baptized but not in the LDS Church. My Father would be in the lowest Kingdom. I didn't believe that one bit. I only know of one Heaven and one Hell. I believe that God even set it up and is said that in Genesis.
@@AntonydenDulk I guess you did not listen to this video about Salvation all the way through. It's talking about what Mormons believe in Salvation and how many heavens there are according to the Mormon life of belief.
@@ernestmarcucella6918 I watched the whole video. You said you only know of 1 heaven and I pointed out that in the Bible it talks about 7. You are denying Mormonism because it teaches multiple heavens and yet the Bible teaches it as well. Mormonism teaches 3 main graduations in the heavens with at least the Celestial having 3 levels, so at least 5 levels of heavens. The Bible teaches at least 7. To deny multiple heavens is to deny the Bible. You cannot deny Mormonism for having multiple heavens and then say you are a Bible believing Christian since to believe the Bible requires you to believe in multiple heavens.
@@ernestmarcucella6918 Paul mentions at least 3 heavens - see 2 Corinthians 12:2. As for many mansions see John 14:2. The only way you can reject what Joseph taught is if you reject the Bible. The doctrines he taught are scattered all through the Bible and can be seen by those who have eyes to see and heard by those who have ears to hear. If you don't see and hear then it is because you are darkened in your mind and have God's truths shut up to you.
I found this very helpful, especially the reference to Bruce R. McConkie. I didn’t realize that there is no close relationship with Jesus in Mormonism.
Well, considering the Jesus of Mormonism is merely our big brother, the big brother to Satan and Mormons relate him to Michael the Archangel, it's not surprising that there's no relationship because he isn't even God to them. He will be the "Heavenly Father" of the next world. It's so twisted and blasphemous. But I'm glad this was helpful to you. I have many other videos on my channel as well on LDS topics. 🙂
@@itsmejessie Thank you, I've been studying LDS as of late in order to be able to interact with Mormons online. Saints Unscripted (previously 3 Mormons) is really starting to take off, and it's very concerning to me. I've endeavored to interact in the comments there. Kwaku blocked me on Twitter, so that's not really an option.
Yes. If you believe that Jesus Christ was the only Son of God, born of Mary, was crucified, died and resurrected and is God in human form, that's it. Now, if you believe that, you will want to work to be like Christ and do His work but belief is all that's required. Remember the thief on the cross, that was all he did.
@@KathyStrickland-nh9vx But if I believe in Christ but still decide to sleep around and do drugs, people will say I don't really have faith. So I still need to do my best to live a righteous life. Faith without works is dead. (James 2:17-18)
@@jaycie2213 We believe works are a result of faith. If we have faith we will strive to be Christ like. Because we are human we will sin (sleep around, drugs) but we will be nudged or convicted by the Holy Spirit to live a more fruitful (works) life. We can work all we want to but it doesn't get us to heaven. Faith in Jesus Christ alone is the only requirement. Denying Christ is the absolute that dooms us.
I’m a member of the true church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and you continue to say Mormon and Mormonism... we don’t worship Mormon and are Latter Day Saints rather than “Mormons”. If you’re going to talk about the church please use the correct names. Thank you.
B C: Little you know about your own religion. www.mormonnewsroom.org/ This is the OFFICIAL news site for the LDS/Mormons. MORMON is even in the name. A turd by any other name still stinks the same, so the Mormons can change their name (and doctrine, because we know that God is always changing, right) all they want, but it's still a cult that follows a man, and not Christ.
Are you not indebted to Christ for you Salvation? Salvation is only in and through Christ! and all who are saved are indebted to Christ with a debt that will never be repaid. But that doesn't allow us to live in sin and continue to willingly disobey God. Matthew 7:21 "not every one that said until me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven." I am Eternally indebted to the Lord Jesus Christ the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, he is my Lord and my God. And I invite all to follow Jesus Christ and be washed in his blood.
1 Corinthians 6:9 (AKJV) "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."
You are making assumptions and interpretations based on a lack of knowledge and understanding, For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would try to explain the beliefs of another church or why anyone would beleive someone who did. It would be like me making videos explaining what Catholics believe. I guess if I dug up the history of Catholics, Protestants, Evangelists ect, found some quotes from 100-200 years ago made by their leaders I would have an accurate picture of what those religions were about, right?
@tapir rider are you really trying to equate Joseph relating what he was told with someone explaining a churches beliefs that they don't belong to, to other people? Joseph didn't send people out to preach about other religions and how they were wrong, nor did he spend his time doing so. If a mormon made a video trying to explain the beliefs of a baptist, catholic, protestant or evangelist to the world I can guarentee most people, including myself, would be outraged that someone with little real knowledge of said church would try to explain their beliefs. I would bet that even you would find that foolish.
@tapir rider There is not a single doctrine/belief of other churches that Joseph attempts to explain or teach in that quote. Mormon missionaries do not spend their time talking about other religions, they share what they themselves believe and the doctrines of their own church. This woman is not preaching mormons are wrong she is attempting to tell people what mormons believe, with a great deal of inaccuracies. When mormon missionaries spend all their time telling people about other churches beliefs than you can compare the two.
@NoStoppingit7 - Joseph Smith didn’t send people out to preach about other religions and how they were wrong... Maybe true... But he did spend his time in bed with underaged women, little girls and other men’s wives. When he wasn’t doing that, he was committing bank fraud and having to run from state to state to avoid incarceration. **Here’s the crazy thing. He founded a church that excommunicates sinners, while he called himself a prophet. Jesus spent all of his time with sinners, that’s where his good work could be done, and practiced forgiveness and died a brutal death on a cross so that we all may be redeemed. Totally different gospel dude. You Mormons (or whatever you call yourselves these days) aren’t fooling anyone.
So glad I didn't marry my Mormon ex girlfriend. Close one! I really loved her, and I grew up Mormon, but I just knew something was off. So grateful to call myself a Christian now, and to put my faith in Jesus entirely.
Hi Michael,yes good works does follow our faith but is for rewards after were are saved,it does not cause us to be saved. it is the work of Christ the on the Cross that counts.LDS believes that thy cannot reach Their kimgdom without good works. We are saved by faith by Gods Mercy and His work not our works.Reread my first post good works are a result of saving faith. Listen to the video again she's explains it right at the end in very clear terms.
@@imdustinaskmeaboutmychurch7099 Just making sure, 2 Nephi25:23, states its works first and then grace.But Titus 2:11-3:8 makes it clear that were are saved by our faith first then after we can have good work/deeds. Faith+works(everything you need to do)= salvation.That is LDS. Christianity Faith=salvation then have good works for rewards in heaven and to show others as James states.
@@davidjanbaz7728 after all we can do his grace can save us. We work hard in this life now so when we die we can be saved Jesus came to earth to save man from sin and not In sin. Alma 11:34
The thing that actually jumps out at me is how much effort and fear mongering goes into this massive online effort to place Mormonism into this tite box by creating this biased effort to place everything this church believes into four closed corners of terrible doom and gloom, while ignoring the fact that this Salt Lake church they detest is literally the most successful church flourishing and growing world wide today, while all the other denominations today are socially and spiritually falling apart. Face it, they are literally falling apart even though they all pretend otherwise. Countless church's are massively failing apart today and unable to unite the church body into one faith, thus, unable to ever become that one prepared bride. Thousands of Christian churches in America and abroad have literally closed their doors simply because they donnot know how to successfully do what this church they hate so much actually knows how to do. That is simply keeping a whole church together and successfully keeping it growing as one Christian organization. No latterday saint churches are closing their doors today inspite of a relatively few members who are affected by the world wide faith crisis now affecting all religions today. The church of Jesus Christ of latterday saint missionaries are still converting a half a million people and the church is building dozens of new churches every week. Their parking lots are full of cars on Sunday. Just drive by one anywhere.. Nobody dares put today's Christian churches into the same biased box and confrontational corners that they all deserve to be in! Why? They are obviously failing to accomplish all of Christs efforts to make us all one bride. They are obviously not the church of the new testament because they cannot unite their own conflicting biblical doctrines into one Lord, and one faith, and one baptism like the Salt Lake church is proving they literally do. Peter and Paul were not building up separate churches as business organizations to make money and succeed by competing against other so called Christian businesses organizations which are doing today. Just watch the denominational circus on the TBN channel! How do they all opporate against the Bibles clear teachings and nobody ever takes notice? How? By turning their churches in a Wal mart against K mart type business competators. Literally putting each other out of business through the competative efforts of enticing more people to support their business church than the other minister competing down the street. You've got to think out of the box people! Do you really think the true Jesus that you believe in is sitting up in heaven gambling on the Sunday Superbowl placing a bet as to which church is going to out do the others? Turning Gods gatherings into marketing campaigns to servive or die by making money? Can you really imagine Jesus watching the other churches die and fail and then go out of business to make the one down the street rich? That would make your Jesus a ruthless business tycoon using his own followers as pauns for a worldly chess game. That is why the church in Salt Lake fits the Bible and your efforts donnot. Christ said "If your not one, then you are not mine." The whole point was to become ONE with Christs unity and not to spend all your time fighting against the only church on earth today modeling the biblical 12 apostles in Salt Lake city. A world wide church whose efforts are actually getting the job done like the biblical church clearly outlined. Do you actually think Christ wants you to defend countless failing church systems calling them all biblical Christianity which efforts ultimately devide up Christians into sesperate denominations? Yes, my friend! Devided Christian organizations all fighting against the only (one church) on the earth today that succeeds in accomplishing his one biblical churches main goal to baptize all nations before he comes? Nobody else is even coming close to the biblical world wide commission because they are all fighting against Christs unification efforts possibly getting done.
Out of the approximate 16 million LDS members, there are only between 3-4 million who are "active." That is a tragically low percentage. And in comparison to the other belief systems in the world, 16 million people is TINY. The Mormon church has the finances it does because it requires a mandatory tithe from members in order for them to reach the highest exaltation. Just because an organization has loads of money to build massive, materialistic, 30-50 million dollar temples does not mean it is doing anything right. I disagree with your entire comment. And to claim that all other churches are failing is extreme.
Funny, but Mormonism has always been divided, ever since 1844. Most notable: Joseph Smith's son was president and prophet of RLDS. Warren Jeffs is a Mormon who obeys the concept of the New and Everlasting Covenant.
Money is required but hidden in a package deal within the LDS church. To get temple recommends etc. money is required, and the false blessings only come after you are dead.
There iis NO digference in the Mormon doctrine and the Biblical one! Faith without works is dead snd can not save you! There were NO altar calls recorded in the NT! "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the vommandments." Jesus Christ Matthew 19:17!!!
Jessie: 1. Resurrection does not mean salvation to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All mankind that lived will be resurrected but not everyone will be saved. Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." We do not consider being cast into the "lake of fire" to be salvation. 2. Biblical salvation requires washing (baptism), sanctification (cleansing), and justification (reconciliation) according to the Apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 6:9 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." 3. The three kingdoms of Glory are discussed by the Apostle Paul. We will be resurrected to one of these three Kingdoms of Glory. 1 Corinthians 15:40 "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:" 4. Faith: Pearl of Great Price/Articles of Faith #4: "We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost." 5. Repentance means recognition of sin, remorse for sin, repentance, restitution for that taken, and resisting the temptation to sin again. 6. Baptism by the priesthood of the Church is required. We do not accept baptism from another church. 7. The laying on of hands by the Melchizedek priesthood is required to bestow the Gift of the Holy Ghost. The power of the Holy Ghost is present for all who are receptive to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Acts 8:17 "Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost." 8. Temple Ordinances:Matthew 18:18 "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Here the Apostles were given the power to seal ordinances in the Temple. These are not discussed outside the Temple and do not appear in any scripture. 9. Celestial Marriage is an ordinance that prepares worthy members for eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom or Kingdom of God. We will be gods there and not Gods. 10. Word of Wisdom: This revelation is given to prevent addictions and to facilitate good health. 11. Sustaining the Church leaders: We members have the right to sustain changes in the Church or not. 12.Tithing: Malachi 3:10 "Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it." Luke 20:25 "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s." 13. Sacrament: Matthew 26: 26 ¶ "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." 14. Obedience: 1 Samuel 15:22 "And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams." 15: Jessie doesn't understand what the Bible says about justification. James 2:20 "But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." Background: Southern Baptist for 30 years. Then Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 40 years. There never has been a Mormon church. People call it that out of ignorance.
This is the the truth of the LDS salvation just a mixed mashed bunch of documents stuck together the story of the LDS church just contradiction after contradiction. CONTRADICTION BETWEEN D&C 131 & 132 IN REGARDS TO SALVATION INTO THE HIGHEST DEGREE IN JOSEPH SMITH’S CELESTIAL KINGDOM BECAUSE OF MARRIAGE AND A CONTRADICTION WITH THE BOOK OF MORMON FOR YOUR SALVATION. Note : Marriage was essentially to be exalted then in under 2 months there's a change to now plural marriage is essentially. Why and how can that be, “TWO” different revelations in such a short period of time could Joseph Smith “not” be getting this essential covenant correct? i.e. D&C 131- Instructions by Joseph Smith the Prophet, given at Ramus, Illinois, May 16 and 17, 1843.1-4, Celestial marriage is essential to exaltation in the highest heaven; 5-6, How men are sealed up unto eternal life is explained; 7-8, All spirit is matter D&C 131- In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees; 2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage]; 3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it. 4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase. 5 (May 17th, 1843.) The more sure word of prophecy means a man’s knowing that he is sealed up unto eternal life, by revelation and the spirit of prophecy, through the power of the Holy Priesthood. 6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance. D&C 132- Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant and the principle of plural marriage. D&C 132:4 - For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory Joseph Smith and the LDS CHURCH highest degree in their “Celestial Kingdom” just a death camp. drive.google.com/file/d/1d6ChRFqSMEPaCbFnJimsvgSMotb_oRjg/view?usp=drivesdk The only requirement mentioned in the Book of Mormon for your Salvation is repentance and baptism 3 Nephi chapter 11:38-41. 3 Nephi 11:40 would call Joseph Smith and LDS church as evil. SOME JOSEPH SMITH DOCTRINE BELOW TO THINK ABOUT. Highlight - Orange - Oct 17, 2017: 94 They who dwell in his presence are the church of the Firstborn; and they see as they are seen, and know as they are known, having received of his fulness and of his grace; 95 And he makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion. D&C 76, Doctrine and Covenants Note: The LDS believe that they can become equals to God equal in power and etc ???? THE GOD OF THIS WORLD. 2 Corinthians 4:4 the god of this World. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14
@@Raze120: Yes of course. There has never been a Mormon church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was named that by the Lord himself on April 26, 1838. Doctrine & Covenants 115:3 "And also unto my faithful servants who are of the high council of my church in Zion, for thus it shall be called, and unto all the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world; 4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
@@veganlife13: Both D&C 131 and 132 are about exaltation (eternal life) and not about salvation. D&C 131 announces the New and Everlasting Covenant but doesn't explain it. D&C 132 explains the principle of Eternal Marriage in verses 1- 60. The principle of plural wives (polygyny) is discussed in D&C 132:61 to the end of the section. "The only requirement mentioned in the Book of Mormon for your Salvation is repentance and baptism 3 Nephi chapter 11:38-41. 3 Nephi 11:40 would call Joseph Smith and LDS church as evil." 3 Nephi 11:38 "And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God. 39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and whoso buildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them. 40 And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them." I believe in addition to repentance and baptism is the requirement to become as a little child willing to submit your will to the will of our Heavenly Father. Mosiah 3:19 "For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father." "The LDS believe that they can become equals to God equal in power and etc ????" D&C 76:94 "They who dwell in his presence are the church of the Firstborn; and they see as they are seen, and know as they are known, having received of his fulness and of his grace; 95 And he makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion." D&C 76 is about the three kingdoms of glory. These verses explain that all those who inherit the Celestrial Kingdom are equal. It doesn't say they will be equal to God. The God of this World: Psalm 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." Jesus Christ is the God of this earth. It is his stewardship from our Heavenly Father. Who is/was Lucifer's father? He was a son of the morning according to Isaiah 14. Where did he come from?
I love the baptism of the Dead thing with the Mormons as well that the Apostle Paul talks about. Paul isn't talking about a physical death, but a spiritual death in the Bible. Getting baptized for somebody in the here and the now for somebody who has passed away and is in "outer Darkness" isn't going to pull them out of hell. Paul is talking about the spiritually dead. Mormons love to twist that.
benmiddleton9984: Well the Apostle Paul is talking/teaching the doctrine of resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15. Resurrection generally means the return of the spirit to its body and the restoration of that body.
Only 0:35 seconds in, and you're wrong. The LDS faith does not equate resurrection with salvation. The first being the body and spirit coming back together in a perfect immortal union, and the later being in the presence of God. I'll listen to the rest, but you're off to a bad start, and it will be interesting to see where this leads from such a false premise to begin with.
She is actually correct, and when she stated "to some extent", she is starting off correctly because Lds members do believe the atonement of Christ is, in some way, saving them because it would be considered the "first estate" of the 3 different resurrections they believe in.
@@MaxwellsUnearthly you're still equating being saved (salvation) with being resurrected. LDS do believe that everyone who ever lived on earth will be resurrected, but don't call that being saved.
@@pilotandy_com One of the links I sent specifically says there are 6 definitions of "saved" to the LDS. And yes, I said "to some extent" which is the truth.
@@pilotandy_com um, what do you think resurrection means?,resurrection is a gift to all man kind and the definition of that gift is salvation, which is a form of being saved, yeah, so, yeah.
For those who claim there is no Trinity in the Bible, they should look no further that the first Chapter of Genesis 1: 26 Then God said, "Let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image (singular), after our (plural) likeness (singular); and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." Then there is St. John 1: 1: In the beginning WAS the Word (Jesus), and the Word WAS with God, and the Word WAS God … so, in the beginning, before creation, Jesus existed. Colossians 1:15: He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature. … the first born* of every creature … is consistent with St. John * or "begotten"? Of course there is also Isaiah repeating again and again there is only one Almighty God … which should be obvious: one All-mighty ...
No one desputes that the Godhead is found in the bible. Problem is that in the past christians would explain the trinity as being one being manifesting in 3 persons, which is not biblical at all. It would seem from recent conversations with Christians and from what I am gathering from your post that that view has changed. So if I understand correctly the belief now is that they are 3 separate beings acting as one?
@@nostoppingit7827 "Problem is that in the past christians would explain the trinity as being one being manifesting in 3 persons, which is not biblical at all." how can you make this statement if you have read my post above? Your following statement makes no sense at all - the Christian view of the Trinity has not changed at all. "So if I understand correctly the belief now is that they are 3 separate beings acting as one?" … you do not understand correctly - THAT is the LDS/Mormon view of god - patently ridiculous because it is obvious there cannot be three All-mighty gods … even Christian teenagers know this. When you make posts, can you please ensure your statements are reasonable?
@@davidhogg8721 The scriptures you quoted denote separate beings unless you are saying God was talking to himself when saying "us and our". When I get different answers from Christians I can't help but be confused. So to clarify you are stating that the belief is still that they are one being manifesting in 3 persons? As one christian explained it to me, God is one being playing different roles.
@@nostoppingit7827 "The scriptures you quoted denote separate beings unless you are saying God was talking to himself when saying "us and our" … explain to us: who else would He be talking to since man was not yet created?? Simple stuff really - that is why we can't understand how Mormons can't understand. "So to clarify you are stating that the belief is still that they are one being manifesting in 3 persons?" Yes. The problem is that Mormons can't get away from their belief there is pre-existence when the Bible tells them there is not: Genesis 2: 7 … Adam "became" a living soul … telling us Adam was not previously a "living soul" something St. Paul confirms nature first and then spiritual … quoting this exact verse from Genesis!!!!! It is all there for everyone to see. Before creation, what existed? As my teenage grandchildren told me very quickly: only God. Mormons cannot understand this because they think God had parent … grandparents … great grandparents etc which is nonsense: God is independent He exists … we are dependent and need to be created. Before creation with only God existing - that existence would not be sterile, God would be engaged so He would contemplate AND since nothing else existed He would self-contemplate forming an image of Himself: the Son, Jesus: Colossian 1:15 He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God. When this is explained to Christians they get it immediately - Mormons cannot because their thinking capacity has been all screwed up with a lot of stuff that makes no sense and is un-Biblical. Which is why they accuse Christians of being non-Biblical. Mormons need the Bible to be interpreted for them correctly. Christians do not need that - they can read what is written!!!!!!!!!!!!! That all Christians are not crisp on their beliefs is understandable - neither are all Mormons?? All easy for Christians to understand but not for Mormons for the reasons given. Sad.
@@nostoppingit7827 David Hogg 2 minutes ago @NoStoppingit7 "The scriptures you quoted denote separate beings unless you are saying God was talking to himself when saying "us and our" … explain to us: who else would He be talking to since man was not yet created?? Simple stuff really - that is why we can't understand how Mormons can't understand. "So to clarify you are stating that the belief is still that they are one being manifesting in 3 persons?" Yes. The problem is that Mormons can't get away from their belief there is pre-existence when the Bible tells them there is not: Genesis 2: 7 … Adam "became" a living soul … telling us Adam was not previously a "living soul" something St. Paul confirms nature first and then spiritual … quoting this exact verse from Genesis!!!!! It is all there for everyone to see. Before creation, what existed? As my teenage grandchildren told me very quickly: only God. Mormons cannot understand this because they think God had parent … grandparents … great grandparents etc which is nonsense: God is independent He exists … we are dependent and need to be created. Before creation with only God existing - that existence would not be sterile, God would be engaged so He would contemplate AND since nothing else existed He would self-contemplate forming an image of Himself: the Son, Jesus: Colossian 1:15 He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God. When this is explained to Christians they get it immediately - Mormons cannot because their thinking capacity has been all screwed up with a lot of stuff that makes no sense and is un-Biblical. Which is why they accuse Christians of being non-Biblical. Mormons need the Bible to be interpreted for them correctly. Christians do not need that - they can read what is written!!!!!!!!!!!!! That all Christians are not crisp on their beliefs is understandable - neither are all Mormons?? All easy for Christians to understand but not for Mormons for the reasons given. Sad.
As the good book says "Faith without works is dead" and "By their fruits ye shall know them" I so testify these things are from God and our Lord Jesus Christ. You should read the Book of Mormon for yourself, don't rely on this woman to tell you. Ask God in the Name of Jesus Christ if the Book of Mormon is true, He will show you and by the Spirit you will be convinced.
@Headless Horseman Do you know that there is no original Bible (New Testament). The Bible came well after the life and time of Jesus. So you take your FAITH in the Bible as written. So do I. But I chose to read both Old and New Testament and follow it. So, (1) as it says in the Bible in Ezekiel Chapter 37 There will be 2 books written. One book (the Bible) for Judah the children of Israel and another (the Book of Mormon) for Joseph and Ephraim. And (2) in the New Testament book of John 10:16 "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one Shepard." The Bible TOTALLY explicitly says it. Please read for yourself in the Bible study and then read the Book of Mormon. Pray and ask God with real intent if it is true and he will tell you for yourself by the Holy Spirit that it is true. I testify to you that I know that it is the Word of God Both Bible and Book of Mormon. And yes the Bible tells us so.
Notice Obediemce to the CHURCH results in salvation; it might be different if they said God or Jesus but would they dare glorify God? No they want men to follow MEN ...
I deny the following Mormon doctrines. I deny that there are many many gods (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 163). I deny that the Trinity is three separate gods (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370). I deny that god is a man from another planet (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3). I deny that there is a goddess mother (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443). I deny that god is married to his goddess wife (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516.). I deny that god and his goddess wife have bodies of flesh and bones (Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22; Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3.) I deny that we were all born in the pre-existence (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 218; Articles of Faith, p. 174). I deny that Satan is my spirit brother (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). I deny that I need a temple (Articles of Faith, p. 138). I deny that I have the potential of becoming a god (Articles of Faith, p. 424). I deny that the book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461). I deny that good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, p. 81, 92). I deny that my own blood must atone for any of my sins (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 247; see also, vol. 4, p. 53-54, 219-220). I hope this helps.
@@fayelewis5476 i couldn't find the quote in articles of faith by talmage about goddess wives. could you copy and paste it? i was on page 443 in articles of faith by talmage for sure.
Interesting thing about the Word of Wisdom. If you read the actual text is specifically say that it is not to be a commandment. It also allows drinking of mild alcoholic beverages. Also tithing in the actual text is not 10% of your income. So the Mormon Church doesn't even follow their own texts.
No. Baptism is a display of obedience to God and follows Salvation but does not save your soul. I see baptism as a work. Even Paul says, "I am glad I baptized NONE of you, lest the cross be made of no effect." (My paraphrase because I don't have the passage in front of me.) And the thief on the cross was never baptized and yet Jesus promised He would see him again in paradise.
@@itsmejessie Well tell that to Jesus Mark 16:15-17 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my names hall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; Baptism comes before the signs of salvation. It is only a dead work if people forget the reason behind it, that through Christ we are saved. But it is clear that you can't be saved without it. Baptism requires priesthood authority. Matthew 28: 19-20 19 ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. There are different works: dead and live works: Its important to not mix the context of works: Yes the Saviour did say to the man on the cross: and yes he would eventually be baptised: Hence the need for baptism for the dead:- 1 Cor 15:29 29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Baptism yes is an outward ordinance of an inward change, and comes before the gift of the Holy Ghost. It was clearly taught by Jesus, as essential and whose sayings come before Peter's or Paul's and their teachings have to be put into context of Christ's words, not the other way around.
@@itsmejessie That scripture is in 1 Cor. 1, you should read it in context. And that one scripture does not negate what Christ taught John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. or the countless other scriptures like Act 2:38 and the many someone else posted for you. How can you try to explain away the need of baptism when Christ himself descended below all and without any need of being baptized did so to show an example we should follow? And then He went on to preach of it's necessity. And after his resurrection he again taught the need for baptism Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judæa; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Ænon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized. 24 For John was not yet cast into prison. 25 Then there arose a question between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purifying. 26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him. Acts 2:38 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Baptism by water alone does not save but clearly the New Testament shows it is necessary for salvation. And how do you figure it is simply a display of obedience when Peter states it is for the remission of sins?
I'm glad Jessie is preaching out on the cult of the LDS! We have the most beautiful woman on our Bible/Jesus followers side, while the LDS follow Geesus, a man became a god that is too weak to save you without YOUR own personal "works" and then He will, "make up the rest" that you weren't able to do on your own. Blasphemy!
I wonder how many Mormons lie to get into the temple? I would bet it to be 100% I have never met a human being that has been 100% honest in all doings and 100% accurite in following all the laws, ordinances, and commandments of the LDS Church.
@Ghost Music, Everyone’s 100% is different. If that makes sense..? God made everyone knowing everyone would be different. People would experience personal growth at their own pace. Your definition of 100% is not the same as my 100%, or even Heavenly Fathers 100%. My point is... this comment given by E R is so true because I know a lot of people who do lie or have gone through the temple not being prepared spiritually. Anyone who attempts to do their very best in doing what needs to be done should be accounted as 100%. Then again, I also know people who do live in that 100% category in the context of this comment.
All people are accountable to God whether or not they have “heard about Him.” The Bible tells us that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature (Romans 1:20) and in the hearts of people (Ecclesiastes 3:11). The problem is that the human race is sinful; we all reject this knowledge of God and rebel against Him (Romans 1:21-23). If it were not for God's grace, we would be given over to the sinful desires of our hearts, allowing us to discover how useless and miserable life is apart from Him. He does this for those who continually reject Him (Romans 1:24-32). In reality, it is not that some people have not heard about God. Rather, the problem is that they have rejected what they have heard and what is readily seen in nature. Deuteronomy 4:29 proclaims, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” This verse teaches an important principle-everyone who truly seeks after God will find Him. If a person truly desires to know God, God will make Himself known. The problem is “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God” (Romans 3:11). People reject the knowledge of God that is present in nature and in their own hearts, and instead decide to worship a “god” of their own creation. It is foolish to debate the fairness of God sending someone to hell who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel of Christ. People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them. The Bible says that people reject this knowledge, and therefore God is just in condemning them to hell. Instead of debating the fate of those who have never heard, we, as Christians, should be doing our best to make sure they do hear. We are called to spread the gospel throughout the nations (Matthew 28:19-20; Acts 1:8). We know people reject the knowledge of God revealed in nature, and that must motivate us to proclaim the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. Only by accepting God’s grace through the Lord Jesus Christ can people be saved from their sins and rescued from an eternity apart from God. If we assume that those who never hear the gospel are granted mercy from God, we will run into a terrible problem. If people who never hear the gospel are saved, it is logical that we should make sure no one ever hears the gospel. The worst thing we could do would be to share the gospel with a person and have him or her reject it. If that were to happen, he or she would be condemned. People who do not hear the gospel must be condemned, or else there is no motivation for evangelism. Why run the risk of people possibly rejecting the gospel and condemning themselves when they were previously saved because they had never heard the gospel? Many more questions are answered at this website. www.gotquestions.org/never-heard.html
Doctrine & Covenants 137:7 "Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God; 8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom; 9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts."
My King James version of the Bible does not teach me to point out what other religions believe and how they are wrong but commands me to preach Christ's gospel. Jesus himsef said "come follow me" an invitation to follow the example he set. He taught to be a peacemaker, to bear anothers burden, to strengthen and uplift. Rather than tearing down people's knowledge or beliefs, he increased it, teaching truths that would bring peace and joy to their lives and salvation to their souls. He commanded us to judge not and to love one another. And the bible teaches that we should be examples of the believers. In a day and age when all religions are dwindling I find it disturbing that members of the religious community are spending all their time attacking what other believers, in God, believe rather than focusing on being examples of the believers and preaching the good word. Perhaps everyone who claims to care should ask themselves if they are creating more believers or non-believers by their actions. It would seem with the numbers of atheists and agnostics increasing that more non-believers are the result. Why try to destroy the faith of someone who at least believes in the Bible and Jesus Christ simiply because they interpret the Bible differently than you? Why try to destroy the faith of someone who belongs to a religion that believes in God but not Jesus Christ (ie. Muslims, Jews, etc.). If you think they are wrong, share what you know to be the truth. If you really believe the words of the Bible then that would be enough as the Bible teaches that the Spirit testifies of all truth. Just seems to me that less preaching against what ever one deems to be wrong and more preaching of Christ and what you believe to be right would be a better way to improve the world we are living in. And from my study of the New Testament I think the Prince of Peace would agree.
peaceliberty4all ... the bottom line is Mormons want to say “we are Christians too” ....and want be part of the “Christian community” and want all other Christian people to just like them and leave them alone .... when Mormons very own foundation is founded on absolutely ATTACKING Christians?? mormons are so hypocritical.... Joseph Smith’s first vision clearly says all other church’s are wrong and an abomination and their professors are all corrupt !!! Then in the Book of Mormon in 1Nephi 14. It clearly say there is ONLy two church’s the church of God (Mormons) ... and the church of the devil ( everyone else ) and everyone else is part of the “whore of all the earth”!! Mormons literally ATTACK Christians with their own false and deceiving Mormon doctrine.... and then try and say “but we’re christians too”. And “you should appreciate us”... and “why do they attack us we are such wonderful people”. It is so thick with self righteousness, arrogance and it’s so pathetically hypocritical ... Mormons are in a cult and most don’t even know it. Wake up... and God Bless ✝️
It’s a bit of a stretch when the Mormons say they’re “Christians” too but just have “further revelation”… *Mormon God is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from Biblical God!*
How terrible that God would want to talk with His children!!! Try leaving a book for your friends and family and then not speaking with themagain and see how it goes...
@@kingbrolydymonhans5932 How, if you believe in only the Bible can you accept the doctrine of the Trinity, which postdated it 200 years? It would either be revelation, or just the opinion of men who were trying to figure out the Bible.
As an ex-mormon, I can confirm that all of this is true. You need to be married (in the Mormon temple) to enter the celestial kingdom which is already there a works-salvation teaching and just strange...
Ex mormon here too! Now a born again, Bible believing Christian! One thing she left out in this otherwise spot on synopsis is that in each level of heaven there are three levels only in the top level of the celestial kingdom can you become like God. The way I was taught is that God controls the Celestial Kingdom, Jesus controls the terrestrial kingdom and the Holy Ghost controls the telestial kingdom. But you can only meet God in the highest level of the celestial He never visits any of the lower kingdoms.
Doctrine & Covenants 137:7 "Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God;
8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom; 9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts."
@@BingChilling914 actually you can be saved in the lowest degree of the celestial kingdom without being married, but you must have accepted Jesus Christ and his gospel.
You never ever read any book of the church, you only need to marry someone to get exaltation, its one of the glory states in the celestial kingdom, there are two more that were not revealed
ChrisXmusics: “You never ever read any book of the church, you only need to marry someone to get exaltation, it's one of the glory states in the celestial kingdom, there are two more that were not revealed.” I have read and continue to read the Standard Works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints which contains the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price.
Doctrine & Covenants 132:7 “And verily I say unto you, that the conditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, and that too most holy, by revelation and commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this power (and I have appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this power in the last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred), are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.” The Holy Spirit of Promise must seal a marriage to be in effect after death.
This is simply an educational video, not an attack on anyone. It is likely that "investigators" don't know these critical details & they have the right to know the differences in religions. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. It is FREE & SIMPLE & offers ETERNAL LIFE.
Susan: You said, " I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ". Answer me a simple question if you would please... What are the basic principles of the gospel that you love?
@@christopherfoote4643 Repentance is truly one of the basic principles. Repentance requires faith and works.
@@christopherfoote4643 Of which the first is to believe. Sadly many today refuse to accept the Book of Mormon Another Testament of Jesus Christ, and in doing so claim him to be a different Jesus making the same mistake of the Pharisees in New Testament times.
"Educational video" lol. Except much of the claims in this video are just plain false.
You dont even know what lds believe
Do any LDS have assurance that they have done everything to one day get to the Celestial kingdom & on to godhood?
Unfortunately no. Lds believers will tell you that after death, if they have done "their part", then Jesus will make up the rest, or make up what they could not do, sort of like saving grace I guess.
Longe sadly no they are Never assured if they were they wouldn’t have to always work hard to be right with Jesus Mormons dont believe in being saved that’s why it’s a worked men made religion hope this helps.
If you read 2 Nephi 25:23 it tells them they are saved "AFTER all they can do". For some Mormons, this has different meanings.
1) If they haven't done enough, then they may not get into the Celestial kingdom and have to settle for the 2nd level. There must be some formula where "good works" = 50 and Jesus atonement is another 50 providing the 100 points needed to get into the 1st level. If Jesus has to supply more than 50 points, then they are demoted to Telestial.
2) If they haven't done enough, then Jesus uses His atonement to make up the ALL the rest of their payment for their sins. There is no point system, so it doesn't matter how much "work" they have done, Jesus will always fill in the gap.
Most believe (1) is the standard practice so that none of them will be too lazy to "work" for their salvation and to "work" as in some pride to show off to others that they were "perfect" enough to reach the highest level. This is similar to those getting to be on the Dean's List or graduating Suma Cum Laude. It's all to show off their good deeds despite the fact that Ephesians 2:8-9 reminds us that we are NOT given salvation by our works so that no one can boast.
Those that believe (2) are the non-aggressive Mormons that use this excuse as their interpretation so they can not worry if they are doing enough for their salvation and hope that Jesus will fix the rest for them. Some Mormons will actually chastise other Mormons if they are thinking this is the interpretation, usually those that have years of "good works" behind them and love to boast.
@@QuillonFrostbane I can't imagine any of them would actually say they have done ALL they could do!
Maybe the mom who baked an extra dozen cookies for her kids' school will get to become celestial. 😇
As a born again Christian I agree. Former Mormon here and I’m glad this video was made. The true God of the Bible is LOVE not anger as taught by Mormons.
Anger? Where were you when the "God is love" lesson was taught? And if you are judging the doctrine of the LDS church by the actions of some members, that is a false standard.
@@misssue1824 Sister please understand that Jesus died on the cross that is where he atoned for our sins, not the Garden of Gethsemane. Since I take it you are Mormon to have understood that I leave you with a KJV Bible verse. Jesus is Lord God. He has always been and always will be. Lucifer and Jesus were never brothers. Enough said. Praise JESUS.
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:8-9 KJV
@@Moose-iz1uo Do you ignore Luke 22:39-44 and Mat 26:67? Jesus suffered the agony of the garden, sweating great drops of blood. How do you explain that agony if is was not a part of the atonement?
Read Isaiah 53:4-9 which describes the atonement- carrying our sorrows in the garden, wounded and bruised in the treatment by the Jewish leaders, the stripes the whip Pilate ordered on His back. The cross was the final and very public stage the Savior went through. Very few at the time knew what He went through in the garden before His arrest. The cross therefore became the symbol of the entire scope of the atonement. But in the end, the bottom line is that He atoned for us. That's what counts.
If you don't want to believe that Lucifer was in the spirit world with Jesus and drew away the third of the host of heaven (Rev 12:4) in His anger, you can.
But let's look at Galatians 1 in context. What is Paul saying in verse 6? "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ UNTO ANOTHER GOSPEL." The believers in Galatia were "troubled by some who were perverting the gospel of Christ. They were already allowing the truth they knew to be corrupted. Then what happened?
Read 2 Thes 2:3, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come (the second coming of Christ), except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." The words "falling away" are a nice way to translate the Greek word apostasia. It is apostasy. It was something that had to happen before Christ comes again.
Look at Acts 3:18-21. The suffering of Christ had been fulfilled. The church is told to repent and be converted to be prepared for the times of refreshing when Christ would come again. However, that would not happen until there was the time of restitution of all things. The "restitution" is a restoration in the Greek. What is being restored?
Apostasy and restoration before the Lord comes again was foretold. What happened to the New Testament Church? Where did it go? When you quote Gal 1:9, be aware of the actual message, which was for the Galatian church then, not some future day.
Another angel will come with the missing gospel not long before the judgment comes and Babylon falls. Rev 14:6 "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people." If the gospel was always on the earth, why is this angel bringing it to be taught to ALL people?
@@Moose-iz1uo You seriously pull out Gal 1:8-9? Read it from verse 6. The context is not the future, but what was happening right then in the Galatian church. They were going astray. 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us the church would go into apostasy. "Falling away" or "rebellion" is a poor translation of the Greek word 'apostasia'. 1 John 2:18 & 4:3 warn of it- the false teaching that Christ had no physical body. Acts 3:20-21 tells us Christ would not return until the times of restitution. This is not the Garden of Eden, or before the Fall, but what would be lost in the apostasy.
Why are you so hung up on the cross, when it was a symbol of the total suffering and death of Christ? Read Luke 22:41-44. What was Christ doing in Gethsemane when He sweat great drops of blood in agony and asked if there was another way?
@@misssue1824 Sister who is lost astray. You worship the Devil and don’t even know it. Christ Jesus died for all our sins therefore we are forgiven. Read Isaiah 43:10 and Isaiah 44:8 and while you’re at it Read 1 Timothy 6:15-16 and John 1:18.
Joseph Smith was a false prophet and the Mormon church is built on a lie. You will never become Gods and that’s ok because Jesus died on the Cross so that you and I may live. Our Lord rose from the dead conquering death.
Embezzlement through guilt. Imprisonment through guilt. Slavery through guilt. Preying on the guilt, of well intentioned people. 😧😩😬😠
Are you talking about Christianity...or?
@@mormonicu5834 you just despise any form of authority, no? I'm thinking you don't like any religions? Am I right? It's not about going to church anyway. It's about a personal relationship with Yashuah. Churches are about to fall from these money changers. People are so darn asleep, they can't discern the weather above their heads. Ever hear of Wormwood? Maybe when it is seen by all, it will make many believers out of many haters? When you see this with your own eyes, you will automatically know HE lives.
@@kingdomofhope3371Intolerance through pride. Hatred through pride. Deception through pride.
I'm not a stupid person and I know my choices. If there were a way to prove one religion superior to another it would have been done long ago. Just go away.
And we continue to remind the world that Mormon language is not Christian language. They speak our Christian tongues & use our terms. Yet, they do not mean the exact same things. Jesus sayeth: "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." (Matt 11:30). In Mormonism--it is very difficult, heavy and burdensome.
The Apostle Paul would call them “corruptors of the simplicity in Christ!”
"For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." excellent comment. don't expect the mormons to get it though. it is a very difficult thing for them to say, "i can't do it. i cannot be good enough. i cannot do enough. i believe that salvation can only can to me as a favor."
N8V Patriot MAGA 2020: Acts 3:20 "And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people."
So, what does this Christian language mean there Bible scholar?
@@dleoburns It is referring to Jesus Christ.
But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled.
19 Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;
20 and that He may SEND JESUS, THE CHRIST appointed for you, (not Joseph Smith)
21 whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.
22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren; to Him you shall give heed to everything He says to you.
Stephen mentions Moses' prophecy, also.
Acts 7 This is the same Moses whom they earlier rejected, saying, ‘Who put you in charge of us?’ This is the Moses that God, using the angel flaming in the burning bush, sent back as ruler and redeemer. He led them out of their slavery. He did wonderful things, setting up God-signs all through Egypt, down at the Red Sea, and out in the wilderness for forty years
This is the Moses who said to his congregation, ‘God will raise up a Prophet just like me from your descendants.’
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Joseph Smith was not Jewish, so the prophet that Moses, Peter and Stephen are referring to could not have been him. The prophet that God would raise up would be a descendant of Abraham.
(Joseph Smith claimed to be descended from the tribe of Ephraim, but that is just pretend. People from the tribe of Ephraim were not allowed to hold the priesthood. Also, Ephraim's mother was black. People from the tribe of Ephraim could not hold the priesthood, according to LDS, because they were black.
Joseph Smith was black.)
The disciples were wondering when God would restore the kingdom. (not the gospel)
Acts 1 When they were together for the last time they asked, “Master, are you going to restore the kingdom to Israel now? Is this the time?”
7-8 He told them, “You don’t get to know the time. Timing is the Father’s business.
Who said it is burdensome Never enjoyed life more till I got in the church. It's absolutely wonderful. That's why millions do it. You people act like what millions enjoy and love is a jail sentence. Fake news everybody.
I recently removed myself from the mormon church and believe that the church uses three tools to manage members shame, guilt, and fear. With the faith of my childhood crushed I am struggling to find faith in anything at this point. This bothers me that I am left with nothing after the mormon church. It is sad and very lonely.
Hi Jon! You're not left with nothing, even though it feels that way. I understand that Mormonism has been your entire world and also your worldview and without it, it may feel like all hope and truth and joy and even community is gone... but that doesn't have to be the case. You can still find TRUE hope, joy and peace through Biblical Salvation because God is absolutely real and Jesus died for you! Joseph Smith took Jesus and turned Him into a false Christ that is taught in Mormonism. Galatians chapter 1 in the New Testament warns against this because it's been happening since 1AD. False prophets are nothing new. Mormonism has vast similarities to Islam and to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Once Mormonism crumbles, it's important to read your Bible to see that the truth you've been missing is right there in the Word of God. Not "as long as it's translated correctly" either.. that's a tactic to get LDS members not to trust the Bible and to rely on the Book of Mormon, D&C and Pearl of Great Price. Those books are in total contradiction to the Bible and are also historically inaccurate. You'll find that the Bible has stood the test of time and is historically accurate, verifiable and is the only book to offer a systematically coherent worldview. Who are we? Where did we come from? Why are we here? What's our purpose? Where are we going after death? ...All of those questions are answered in the Bible. There are incredible Bible-believing churches out there where you can join the community of worldwide born again believers in Biblical Christianity. Your faith journey should not end with a false religion like Mormonism.. praise the Lord that you know its false so you can begin seeking the truth. I pray with all my heart that you get Biblically saved and declare the true Jesus Lord of your life. If you're searching for a solid church that preaches from the Word of God, I would love to help you find one. If you're searching for answers, I'd love to point you towards the New Testament of your Bible... John, Roman's, Hebrews... and also Bible teachers like Ravi Zacharias and David Jeremiah. I don't want you to be left alone but pray that you will find a Christian community that can help you grow and help you find answers and also community and fellowship. Don't give up on God because your church taught a false god. God is real and He created you for a purpose. Heaven is rejoicing that another Mormon found out the truth about his false religion and now you have a Christian (me) praying that you'll come to saving faith in the true Jesus. I care about you and your eternal soul. That's why I'm on TH-cam. Reach out to me any time.
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Love, Jessie
@@itsmejessie Thank you for your encouraging and kind words. It is more than any of my "friends" from the LDS church have offered. Really none of them talk to me anymore. I think that I need to take my time before I jump into a new religion. It would probably be good for me to work on defining what is spirituality for me independent of an organized religion. Your videos have been helpful for me and just wish more of my LDS friends would open their minds and allow themselves to see things are they really are.
@@jong9173 the booklet that helped me was mere christianity by c s lewis. if you are able to replace mormonism with the the famly of god, it will be to your benefit. but i'm not pushing anything, that's just my perspective. you can get mere christianity free from internet archive. free as in free beer
@@longnamenocansayy Absolutely, I actually have read all the CS lewis books and have them already. I have been listening to On Being with Krista Tippett. For me I feel like I need to deconstruct the definition of God that I was indoctrinated with growing up in the LDS church. I am having to balance a difficult situation because my wife and children are still active in the LDS church. I have to be careful talking about my feelings about the LDS church around my children because my wife is not okay with that but I have had some one on one talks with my kids but it is hard. I appreciate your suggestion.
It has been a while since I read CS Lewis, Mere Christianity. It would probably serve me well to read it again.
@@jong9173 within 6 months of my accepting the grace of god, and his work of salvation, my wife divorced me, and i was cast adrift into life alone without a family with not much more than my faith in god. so i know as much as anyone what can happen. that was 40 years ago. that whole period was the hardest time of my life, but also looking back, the time when my understanding developed the most. if you would like to email me for whatever reason: jordy0545@gmail.com.
Thank you for this forum Jesse.
I had 45 years in the LDS church with 7 "born under the Covenant" children when I left the church.
I was a voracious reader years before the internet, I learned the difference between the fear-based control drama of Joseph Smith, and his (oxymoronic and ever-changing) "restored gospel, and the Gospel of Jesus The Christ, in a time when acquiring this information took months of digging for it, not seconds.
It took years for me to weed through my own cognitive dissonance, to understand that I had literally dedicated my life to a doctrine that contained the "philosophies of men mingled with scripture".
Mormonism taught me that the Resurrection of the body is undeniably important, but merely a component in the grand scheme of things.
Years of studying the standard works, and other Church Publications, combined with many hours of Prayer and regular Temple attendance, lead me to the inescapable conclusion, that Joseph Smith's Doctrinal Contributions and blood sacrifice, was regarded as being at least equal to the atonement Jesus made on Calvary.
Years later, all seven of my children are faithful bible-believing and practicing Christians, teaching their own children the love and complete sacrifice of Jesus the Christ.
To those studying out your crisis of faith, hang in there, Jesus loves you and wants to have a personal relationship with you.
Now yours is a testamony of truth.
the internet is such a blessing. when i was young, if i wanted to know something i had to go to the library. that meant saturday if someone would take me. if the library had a book in their collection that was a good thing. if they didn't i would never know anyway. with the internet you have a big big library at the touch of your finger, and sites like this to listen to other people, and think about what they say. young people don't know how it could take you many years to find out what they have immediate access to . the hand of God is on your children so you have a full life. it was a bumpy ride but worth it in the end.
Joseph smith never saw the internet coming!! Thank God for people who share the truth. Shawn Mcraney is also amazing at sharing these comparisons
I'm so glad you concluded with the Gospel. Yes, Christ's death is sufficient for anyone who calls on His Name. Praise God for His mercy and His Son for His sacrifice. The Mormons are listening Jessie, good job.
I just don't believe that it is that easy. Heavenly Father expects us to do something. Not just believe. Also revelation.
@@stanleyhall8951 If it's so easy then how come you haven't done it?
Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
What is the Will of the Father?
John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Not to believe in a fake God or a fake Jesus.
The one True Jesus/Yeshua (Acts 4:12, no other name under Heaven whereby men must be saved),
1 Timothy 2:5 the only Mediator between God and Man. Not no so called prophet or any elder, none other then Jesus. Hebrews 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Apparently it isn’t that easy to be a true believer, because folks believe so many lies and false doctrine which change who the True Jesus is. So as it says in Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, or insert Christian or Mormon or any other title. Be the genuine article.
It’s unreal how the enemy created a doctrine produced by devils to seduce folks. We don’t want anyone to be lost.
We can do nothing in ourselves to right the sin nature we have under the curse of Adam.
And every single sin will be answered for that each of us commit. Not one will slip by without being satisfied by the wrath of God. The only God. (Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin),
Jesus in short took the curse of sin upon Himself for every single sin of those who truly believe in the True Christ. Which in short Jesus in a legal term became the penal substitute for us. So it’s like coming to the judge and saying I know he is guilty of all these sins which is to break the law. Like sexual sins or murder just to name some really bad ones. Apostle Paul and King David know the forgiveness. But Christ paid for our crimes against God for us. Past present and future. All. So we don’t get saved for the moment forgiven for past and present. Christ went to the cross for all. As long as you are in this temporal vessel you will always struggle with sin.
Think about, when you receive your new glorified body which will not be capable of corruption. Not even those thoughts that enter your mind that we try to put out of our minds will even enter. So yes it is all Christ work for us and none of our own. This is part of believing in the True Christ, to know He has done it all. But so many have not trusted in Him in this way.
Your videos are extremely helpful! I have been studying lds doctrine for 7-8 yrs so that I can fiqure the best way to communicate with them. Your videos help very much. There is a ward less than 1/2 mile from my house, so I try often to talk when they are willing. I live on the east coast (Bible Belt) and I've learned that all the missionaries I meet are from the Western part of US. This does not make it easier to talk with them. They are all very sweet and polite, but in conversation I truly feel anything I present is not being received. That doesnt surprise me though. I'm meeting with 2 young gentlemen this afternoon that haven't met with me at length before. Probably like the others, after the second meeting, they won't talk or answer my calls anymore. Pray for Gods Holy Spirit to help me plant a seed. Hopefully someone or something will water the seed in the near future. God Bless all Yall!!
She lies and is a wolf. Learn that and wake up!
In all your study, have you read the Book of Mormon and asked God humbly about it? Or do you just listen to Jessie and the other Pharisees?
@@misssue1824 I have read the BOM. I highlighted and tab marked many pages for future reference, such as has been presented now. I thank you. If you truly want to,”with an open heart and mind”, have a cordial discussion, we’ll have to go a little at a time. Even reading my previous post I typed too much. I’ll start at the Introduction page. J Smith said,” I told the brethren the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by it’s precepts, than by any other book.” I presume that you agree with this statement? And if so, you agree the BOM will lead any man or woman closer to God than The Bible?
@@Deschein19Eli23 Yes I am totally open to a civil discussion. I should be more humble and I do get snarky with people out here sometimes but if someone were attacking your faith as they are mine I don't think you would be very pleased. This is bigotry. Imagine if someone attacked Navajo ceremonies or made fun of Buddhists. There would be a public outcry. Yet everybody piles on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and there are more everyday.
So having said that, the Book of Mormon is the keystone of my faith. It is the most correct book in that it teaches principles of the Gospel that are only partially explained in the Bible. Those principles include baptism, the gift of the Holy Ghost, and what the sacrament is. The Book of Mormon clarifies each one of those critical concepts. This is why it can lead a person to a higher understanding than the Bible does. They compliment each other and the main purpose is to testify of Christ in more than one place. Two witnesses were mandatory in Jewish law to reach a verdict. The other purpose is to prepare us for the difficulties before the Second Coming.
One thing you said caught my attention about reading and highlighting things. Am I correct that you have only listened to the negative side and have marked the ones they feature as "problems" with the Book of Mormon?
@@misssue1824 I respectfully understand what you mean in the first part of your response. I am sorry that there are people out there only to attack and not have “meaningful , cordial and respectful” conversations with others. The “others” being You, of course. They will have to answer for their ways. You say that the BOM is the Keystone to your faith. Respectfully I ask if you could please give a Yes or No to this question.
Do you Claim that the BOM is More Important (as though how would You rank them #1 & #2) than The Bible?
It is a life in service to our Lord and Master Christ Jesus.
I met with the missionaries last week and they said they believed in the same God as me
I said "No, you believe in some dude playing a dude disguised as another dude from another world who has a wife who he has sex with to produce intelligences with like Jesus, who is an intelligence 2 spirit baby who worships a redeemed sinner who worships another Jesus. "
They were surprised, but agreed with me
That's not christ like
@@zacsdiyreptiles7146 hmm?
LOL!!! You are right on point!! Yeah, someone responded to you saying “that wasn’t Christ Like”. Maybe he’s right. But you’re only telling them the Truth!! Of which you say they agreed with!!! And if they agreed!!!!???? Then they admitted (and sadly, probably not realizing it) that they are Brainwashed!!
Fact is, it’s Sad. All we as Christians (believers in God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit, which is ONE God!!) should plant a seed, in Love for our brother or sister, pray that the Lord water that seed.
Ironic note that most may know: in the BOM literally the 4th page titled “The Testimony of The Three Witnesses” the last sentence says (you can look this up yourself if need!) “And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.”
There’s only One way to Interpret what this means. And it’s the very thing that Mormons deny! And it’s written in the introductory pages of the BOM!
The Bible is very clear on our Lord Jesus Christ and His plan of Salvation. Believe and have Faith in Christ Jesus.
Thank you for your video. Keep up the Amazing work for our Lord.
Thank you for explicitly exposing the Mormon heresy
She is the heretic and you are unwise. Christ didn't create multiple churches. Catholics messed up the Bible and is based in Rome. Romans killed Christ. Catholics killed men who wanted to get the Bible into the common man's hands and not just clergy. So, Christians killing Christians is what Christ taught? No way. The Catholic church is the origin of most Christian churches such as Methodist, Lutheran, Baptist, Presbyterian, Amish, etc. So Christianity of Catholicism and those churches is false! Catholics messed up the Bible. Wise up! This woman is a wolf. You are blind!
@@tucuxi70 false prophets are nonetheless false irrespective of my wisdom or lack thereof
What is the gate? Being born again, by the water and the Spirit, baptism and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost!!! Continued...
I agree huge difference between Christianity and Mormonism different paths thx Jessie .🙏😇
Mormons make me puke 🤮
It’s just Freemasons conning people and don’t really believe in it
@@nurembergno2freemasonsdown702 lmao
As a former Mormon, I was saying, “yes! Yes! Exactly!”, throughout this video! Thank you!
Their doctrine makes it pretty easy to get into heaven. At least 1 of the 3 anyway.
I don't understand how lds folks fall for doctrines that are so far removed from the biblical presentation. Thanks Jessie!
We believe in an infinite atonement rather than the limited one of most Christians.
@@AntonydenDulk Jesus believed in a limited atonement.
God so loved the world
God is not willing that any should perish....
God desires all men to be saved....
Jesus Christ took away the sin of the world....
But few will believe.
Matthew 7 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
14 For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
@@fayelewis5476 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
@@AntonydenDulk But if you are not in Christ your spirit will not be made alive.
Everyone is born spiritually dead. Eph. 2 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins,...
The brother of Lucifer never existed. The LDS 'Jesus' is another Jesus that never really existed. That means that every LDS person is not in Christ. They are not in the true Christ who claimed to be God.
Everyone will be resurrected. God has already said that.
Rev. 20 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
@@fayelewis5476 So you believe that everyone who has never heard of Christ is going to burn in a lake of fire forever. Furthermore everyone who has been misled by the misunderstandings of man is going to burn forever.
Does it matter if Lucifer / Satan is the brother of Christ or not? If so, why?
I keep hearing that if you have faith that Christ died on the cross for your sins that you are saved, that nothing else is important. And yet those same people claim that if you have misunderstandings about who is or is not the brother of Christ or any other teaching about God and His nature then you are damned. Which is it?
We want you to be saved with us and we are willing to overlook all your false doctrines and accept you into God's house with us. You on the other hand seem to want to claim your place in God's house and have us damned. I seriously hope for your sake that our understanding of God is better than yours since your understanding will damn you to burning forever if you misunderstand anything about what God is trying to teach us.
Faye, whatever you say about us you must admit that our God is far more loving and compassionate than your God is. My God has given the ultimate sacrifice so that all who will accept Him will be redeemed and it does not matter if it is here on this Earth or after death. My God has supplied a way that even the dead can be saved, He has supplied a way for all to hear and learn about Him so that they may accept Him.
Thank you for your videos. Great insight. The Gospel is this 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJVS
[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
So mormons basically threw away the greatest gift ever given to mankind. It's pure blasphemy to make up or add to God's perfect word.
I feel sorry for the people who are just born into this so called religion. I hope they find the TRUTH.
I have been witnessing to two for the last couple.of.weeks. pray for.me.
I also want to add that Brigham Young said that if anyone left the Mormon church that he believes that you should be put to death. Pay with your life. I was shocked 😲 and in disbelief when I frist heard this but yes it's a true fact .atonement is what he called it for leaving the church .It's such a cult honestly a scary one at that .
the cult of mormonism was so bad that the united states federal government actually sent an army to utah to make them quit all the theft and murders.
but as bad as they were to nonmembers, strangers, travellers, or even territorial judges, they were worse to their own members.
if some bishop wanted your pretty young fiancee, you could have your blood drained out to personally atone for adultery, and the girl would be added to the bishop's harem.
it's all documented. jessie has a vid. about mountain meadows massacre.
john d lee the man executed for mountain meadows massacre wrote his confessions and gave his confessions to his lawyer.
the mormon church sent their blood atoners to his lawyers office, and his lawyer was so afraid that he had to have an armed guard present while he copied the confessions for publication.
then wells fargo was so afraid that they would not transport the confessions to the publisher without an armed guard present.
i think mormonism is a filfthy disgusting little cult and it should be wiped off the face of the earth.
the only way they were able to get so far was the the very real threat of death they held over everybody.
120 men women and children knifed gunned or bludgened to death in 1857 at the command of brigham young. 20 years later one man one man only was executed for the massacre. that was john d lee.
that's how much power the murdering cult of mormonism has. it took 20 years for the courts of the united states of america to have enough power in utah to convict anyone of mountain meadows massacre.
the mormons deny everything. then act like a dirty little cult at every turn.
if they were honest they would open up their vaults for public examination and every one in the world would see what a dirty filfthy lying bunch of scum the mormon church is.
One of the many sad things about the LDS is their requirements could never be understood, much less met, by people in third world countries. How can LDS honestly tell such people, "if you want to go to ( the "best") Heaven, you have to perform all these rituals to get there?" The true Gospel is simple, easy enough for a child to understand. Believe, repent, accept Jesus. That's IT. Anyone who does will WANT to serve God out of love, not fear.
That's what their temples are for. Go to NewNameNoah's TH-cam channel. You are expected to do these and others to be considered for the Celestial Kingdom.
It doesn't.
Headless Horseman Yes, their belief is that there are 3 heavens, and only Mormons go to the best one. They think baptism is required, but I know that the thief on the cross, my 96 yr-old friend who accepted Jesus & my stillborn daughter went to Heaven without baptism. If you discover all the Mormons believe, you'll be shocked at how bizarre & demanding their religion is. Even as a Baptist, I believe people of other religions will go to Heaven.
Headless Horseman it goes to show how ridiculous & arrogant Mormons are, thinking they are the only true church. Oh, and check out the truth about Joseph Smith. The more you research, the more bizarre & unbiblical they become. I am praying for them to realize the simplicity of the Gospel, how ANYONE can get to Heaven if they believe, repent & accept Jesus.
@@suzicares2721 as a baptist you can believe whatever you wish about people of other religions going to heaven. But that doesn't change what scripture actually teaches. It doesn't change the actual doctrine. "I am the way, the truth & the life". What you believe is false doctrine
I was Mormon most my life but would never enter a temple as an adult because of the cult Masonic rituals. I eventually broke my programming and am born again.
Thank you for doing this. This is such an important topic (Gal 1:8-9). I hope Mormons stumble across it and take it to heart.
Love that you mentioned Galatians 1. How can people stray from the truth so easily?? 😢
@@Raze120 Where are you in your quest? Do you attend a church? How do you study Biblical Christianity? Which sources? Just curious.
If Christ himself restored it. Because of corrupt teachings then it is the same gospel that was preached back then. Something for you to take to heart.
The gates of hell never prevailed against Jesus's church, @@germans1 (Matthew 16:18). Whoever said they did makes Christ out to be a liar.
I'm so glad that my church teaches from the Bible we are reading Matthew 18 and Luke 10 this week
Your videos are great Jessie. And they keep getting better. The ending of this is awesome and is what being a disciple of Christ is all about.
My wife and I just got back from Italy. Spent 5 days in Rome. Though I’m not a Catholic, it was aw inspiring to see some of the places that some of Jesus disciples and the Apostle Paul walked and where some of them were martyred and buried. We were right around the corner from where the apostle Paul spent time imprisoned, where his letters were written and sent out. Saw the Basilica of the Apostoli XII where Phillip and James are buried, St. Peters Basilica where Peter is buried. Later we went to the San Marcos basilica in Venice where Mark is buried (Wells parts of him anyway) lol. All of this rich history that I had the opportunity to experience right there only deepened my Faith in Christ. The point of my sharing is that it is so nice that we have actual history of things that we can actually go and see. “The evidence of things”. I feel bad for our LDS friends that their Faith is completely blind. I know we are to have Faith in Jesus but it sure is nice to be able to go look into the history as well!
Kudos Jessie and keep up the good work.
What is a generation?
the lifespan of a human,40to80 years usually no more than 100,right?
How do we test the truthfulness of a prophet ?
we go to God’s word, right?
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Deuteronomy 18:21-22
Joseph Smith prophesied in 1832:
1 A revelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they united their hearts and lifted their voices on high.
2 Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the restoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his prophets, and for the gathering of his saints to stand upon Mount Zion, which shall be the city of New Jerusalem.
3 Which city shall be built, beginning at the temple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and dedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased.
4 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city New Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in
this(currant)generation.👈🏻👀👂🏻
5 For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the glory of the Lord, which shall fill the house.
D & C 84:1-5
Is anybody from that generation still alive?
did that happen?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
So confident of this
“prophecy” was the church, that even the Mormon apostle Orson Pratt decisively affirmed in 1870 that:
“The latter-day Saints just as much expect to receive the fulfillment of that promise during the generation that was in existence in 1832 as they expect that the sun will rise and set tomorrow. why? because God cannot lie. he will fulfill all his promises.”
It would take a book to go through all the failed prophecy and revelations of the LDS early years. An apocalyptic premillianialist sect of the primitive/restorationist movement that took a hard left turn.
Matthew 24:34
i'm Dustin ask me about my church please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :)
i'm Dustin ask me about my church I know enough about your church. It is bizarre, complicated & unbiblical. PLEASE read The New Testament, as a child. You will find that Jesus paid the price for our sins & shortcomings. He saved the thief on the cross, no baptism necessary. The Gospel is simple and beautiful.
@@suzicares2721
I know that is why I love the Savior so much
What is the way? It's just like the quotes from the Bible that I already gave you from Christ, keeping the commandments and enduring to the end!!! Continued...
We just finished studying Exodus and the beautiful image of God freeing the Israelite slaves from pharaoh through Moses which points us to God saving us from the slavery of sin and Satan through Jesus. When the Mormon missionaries, come to my door (or the JW's just recently), I know what they are offering...... shackles. And to take the good news of Christ and his free gift and reject it thinking I could ever earn it.......pure slavery. It's going back to Egypt.
What I find interesting about your post is that I have been a Mormon my whole life and I was never taught or believed that I could earn my salvation.
@@peaceliberty4allHello. Thanks for responding. Just for clarification, you believe that you are saved by grace alone?(And by grace I mean an unmerited gift from God, that God saw your helpless, hellbound state and stepped in and saved you.). No works. Because I have always been told "grace after all that you can do."(You do your best and Jesus does the rest" OR faith without works is dead.). I do believe faith without works is dead btw that chapter(James) is written to believers (calling the recipients brethren over and over) not to people telling them how to earn salvation. Is this what you mean? Thanks.
@@10529Erin I grew up in the church I, nor anyone I know, believes they can earn their salvation, ONLY through Jesus Christ are we saved.
I understand why people have the misconception that we think we are saved by works. We put a lot of emphasis on living the commandments, after all Christ taught if ye love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). When the rich man asked Christ what he needed to do to gain eternal life Christ spoke of the commandments and forsaking all. We were taught we should try to follow the Savior's teachings and strive to be like him and be examples of the believers 1 Tim 4:12. but we know that doing all these things will not save us, no amount of obedience or good works can save us, only in and through the sacrifice of the Savior are we saved.
As for "all we can do" it would be nice if people would look at that scripture in context, it was written before the birth of Christ 2 Nephi 25:23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.
24 And, notwithstanding we believe in Christ, we keep the law of Moses, and look forward with steadfastness unto Christ, until the law shall be fulfilled.
25 For, for this end was the law given; wherefore the law hath become dead unto us, and we are made alive in Christ because of our faith; yet we keep the law because of the commandments.
26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.
27 Wherefore, we speak concerning the law that our children may know the deadness of the law; and they, by knowing the deadness of the law, may look forward unto that life which is in Christ, and know for what end the law was given. And after the law is fulfilled in Christ, that they need not harden their hearts against him when the law ought to be done away.
28 And now behold, my people, ye are a stiffnecked people; wherefore, I have spoken plainly unto you, that ye cannot misunderstand. And the words which I have spoken shall stand as a testimony against you; for they are sufficient to teach any man the right way; for the right way is to believe in Christ and deny him not; for by denying him ye also deny the prophets and the law.
29 And now behold, I say unto you that the right way is to believe in Christ, and deny him not; and Christ is the Holy One of Israel; wherefore ye must bow down before him, and worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul; and if ye do this ye shall in nowise be cast out.
30 And, inasmuch as it shall be expedient, ye must keep the performances and ordinances of God until the law shall be fulfilled which was given unto Moses.
@@peaceliberty4all Sorry I didn't respond earlier. Not sure why I'm not getting notifications. This was interesting. Has Christ fulfilled the law?(Gal. 3:19 although 18 is good too) Or is that in the future? I believe in works but as a result of salvation as in the book of James. I also believe in the Law to be used as a mirror (Romans 3:20). And Moses was known as the minister of death(2 Corinthians 3:7) because the law convicts us of sin because its purpose is to show us that we are incapable of keeping ANY of it. In Romans it's says if you break one little piece you're guilty of all of it. Period. And lots of people think they haven't broken #7 and #6. Well Jesus makes sure you know you did because lusting is adultery and hating is murder. So that means all of us(after reaching puberty) have broken all 10. We can't stand before the Lord and claim ANYTHING but the blood of the Lamb as to why we should be allowed into Heaven.
I'm really glad you mentioned context because that is Paramount. That is why I will NEVER pray about the book of mormon. I am told James 1:5 by missionaries. But that book is written to believers(brethren) in a context of testings and trials. And the verse starts with a "But" which means read verses 1-4 too. It is about staying faithful in a time of great persecutions and trials and temptations to fall away from it.
Thanks for responding. I enjoyed reading it.
@@10529Erin Yes, Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses. I believe wholeheartedly in the statement, "We can't stand before the Lord and claim ANYTHING but the blood of the Lamb as to why we should be allowed into Heaven."
" I believe in works but as a result of salvation as in the book of James."
We don't believe that only those who have been born again should strive to follow the Savior and his teachings. Anyone who claims to believe in Christ should obey his word. Christ said if ye love me keep my commandments. Believing in Christ does not equal being saved, that comes from being born again and there are few Christians, of any denomination including my own, who have been truly born again. So if you could only do works if you had received salvation (been born again) than that would contradict James as he speaks of doing works in relation to faith. If you believe (faith) than let your works reflect that belief (faith)
Perhaps this is where the confusion comes in. Mormons believe that all who profess to believe in Christ should be "example of the believers in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity." 1 Tim 4:12 that involves actions or works. If you have faith in Jesus Christ and his teachings that should be reflected in your actions (works) Which is clearly what James is saying as he gives the example of caring for the poor James 2:14-18 then immediately reminds them that even devils believe in God (a devil would never do the work of God).
Hallelujah, Jesus. You love us. You died for us and YOU are enough. Thank you for the Cross! ❤
Thank you so much for your information and your courage to stand for the TRUTH OF GOD WILL ... I was baptized in the church but I never went to the temple ...God showed me immediately that this was not true and I thank him daily !!! My best friend is a Mormon but threw patience and truly waiting to find the real truth it paid off ... GOD IS GOOD ... and will always show you the true and faithful way .. I pray that my friend will someday receive the true spirit and understand my standing on this and that it was God Way Not mine !!! Life is Good and God’s PLAN IS THE TRUE PLAN OF SALVATION and can not be altered are changed !!! THANK GOD FOR YOUR WILL and COURAGE TO TEACH ALL THATS TRUE THREW GODS WAY ONLY !!! 🙏❤️😇
Your welcome 🙏
She lies and is a wolf. Wake up! Everything she says is a lie!
I live in Utah and often speak with missionaries. I teach them that the cross is a sign of Victory over Death. They say they focus on the life of Jesus because of what he taught us. I said what greater lesson or sacrifice could he give us by salvation and victory over sin and death. I see the wheels turning.
Thank you Jessie for explaining Mormons. I am teaching investigators in my area Mormonism is not biblical Christianity
I would suggest you take a close look at the 13 articles of faith and consider from them if it is or isn't biblical Christianity. The gal above might consider teaching the principles of what she believes in. th-cam.com/video/hGfw3rluRSs/w-d-xo.html
because we believe that the bible has been changed and many plain and precious truths been taken out. We believe in continued revelation thrust Gods Prophets today.
@@burnettaroberts4158 Why do the LDS prophets contradict the word of God?
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
- Article of Faith #3
Book of Mormon For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.
- 2 Nephi 25:23
"One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
THE BIBLE
Eph. 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [h]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
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Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
THE BIBLE
I John 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
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Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92).
THE BIBLE
Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
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There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).
THE BIBLE
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."
- John 14:6
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"This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts," (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
THE BIBLE
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
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There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mormon Doctrine, p.670).
THE BIBLE
And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name (Jesus) under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.
- Acts 4:12
Never happened sister! all made up, fabricated pseudo history, please investigate outside the LDS controlled publication and media, I am telling you in truth, investigate and probe me/probe us wrong...God bless you@@burnettaroberts4158
Karl Shaner please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :)
I'm confused by the comments that God and Jesus are one person, rather than two separate beings. If that's true, who did Jesus cry out to in prayer throughout the bible and on the cross when Jesus says "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do"....was he talking to himself?
Jesus the Christ literally personified God the Father. God the Father is a Spirit and if you read John chapter one, it says that God took on flesh to dwell among us and also that Jesus is the image of the invisible God. He sent the 2nd person of the Trinitarian Godhead to earth to take on flesh, be born in a manger, to live as 100% God and 100% man at the same time. His name was Jesus and He was called Emanuel, which literally translates to "God with us." Jesus was/is God and He humbled Himself to the point of becoming fully human while still having His full Diety. He was perfect. No other human has or will ever be perfect besides Jesus, the "God-man." Because Jesus took on full limitations of humanity, he felt pain and sorrow and temptation and grief although He remained Holy and perfect and without sin. In His humanity, He cried out to God the Father many times. Jesus is distinct from God the Father and the Holy Spirit is also distinct. One God, three persons. God the Spirit, Jesus who became man to save the world and God's Holy Spirit who indwells born again Christians at the point of Salvation. But they're all one God but serve different roles. Jesus says frequently in the 4 Gospels, "If you have seen Me, you've seen the Father" because Jesus WAS God. He made the unknowable God of the Old Testament known through Himself. The unseeable God was finally seen through Jesus. It's complicated but it's also so clear through Scripture that God is ONE God but is also Trinitarian.
Ah...Gotcha. Thanks! @@itsmejessie
@@itsmejessie: Jesus Christ personified the Word of God. John 4:24 (AKJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." The Samaritan woman, whom Jesus Christ addressed in this verse, could not have been taught by the Apostles. Matthew 10:5 (AKJV) "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." The Spirit mentioned in John 4:24 is the Holy Ghost as the Spirit of Truth. John 15:26 (AKJV) "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning." John 14:26 (AKJV) "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
So I’m actually an atheist ex Mormon, just to put that out there. Even being atheist though, I am so happy to see people exposing Mormonism for the fraudulent, dangerous, cult that it is (it’s doctrine is somewhat cultish, but it’s culture definitely puts it in the realm of a cult).
I would be happy to talk sometime about my tone as a Mormon or my current belief system (though I’d guess it probably won’t happen lol), I have met with a Mormon Mission President since leaving when his missionaries didn’t know how to answer my questions and am the son of an active Mormon Bishop. I did go on a mission, but came home for emotional reasons (as do about a fifth of all Mormon missionaries now).
Either way, thank you for doing these videos, they are very well researched, hard hitting and also validating for those who have already left. Thank you!
Jordan Stokes
Jordan, I would love to speak with you. I am a Christian and I have been married to my Mormon wife for 20 years now. It’s taken 20 years for her to start to realize something is wrong with Mormonism. It’s taken her 20 years to realize the Jesus I worship is different than the Jesus she knows.
I understand both faiths in a deep way. If you want to reach out to me my email is msaenz1977@yahoo.com
Hi there! Of course I'm happy to talk as well! Glad you found my channel.
Itsmejessieo@outlook.com
@@zmig7793 You need to read the book, Unveiling Grace, by Lynn Wilder. A former BYU professor.
Also, watch this short video if you haven't already. th-cam.com/video/r0mckI8Xfl8/w-d-xo.html
"came home for emotional reasons (as do about a fifth of all Mormon missionaries now)"
Please provide some evidence of this.
@David Hogg cont. Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
And there are so many more Biblical verses that denote they are not the same being but distinct and separate acting as one. The scriptures that state I and the father are one are clear to understand in light of Christ's words "that they may be one even as we are one" . Him saying if ye have seen the father, ye have seen me is clear to understand when considering a son in the spitting image and likeness of the father (does not make them the same person) Mormons believe in the Godhead, 3 separate and distinct beings acting as one. That belief is biblically supported.
I'm an ex mormon I was brought up in it. Took me 34 years to see it was all false doctrine.
@Headless Horseman I was born into the mormon doctrine so I've always believed in Jesus. Mormons read the bible too however it was revealed to me that the Jesus in the mormon gospel was not the Jesus in the new testament and thats how I ended up being an exmormon I think their doctrine is false. It fools alot of good people. I can see the difference so clearly now but only because God has opened my eyes to it otherwise I'd still believe in it.
@Headless Horseman the mormons have the holy bible kjv however Jo translated it lol so he actually took out a chapter and even added a chapter that prophesy of him and the coming forward of the book of mormon. He made it suit his false doctrine so people would believe him. So lots of people are fooled. Im glad to be free of it. All glory to God.
@@yahushaiscoming7468 true Joseph Smith said he was the prophet Eli from the Old Testament. I remember these teachings as a child on Sunday school
So the LDS are more detailed.....and I'm pretty sure the Jesus in the Bible is the same one.....I don't think they believe there are 2 different ones.
Three levels of heaven but God forgot to name the third one. He had to wait over 1000 years to revel it. SMH!
It's funny how Paul saw someone in the 3rd heaven.
2nd Corinthians C12 V 2
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
Umm 3rd heaven what comes before 3.. if there is a third heaven there must be a 1st and 2nd.
@@germans1 So, why doesn't God name the third heaven? Answer: because there isn't one.
@@pizzapocket7878 So you are saying Paul in this scripture is lying.
@@germans1 Nope, he is telling the truth. You and your fake prophets are the liars. Again, why would he name 2 heavens but not the third? Follow the prophet no matter what right?
Maybe this help clarify.
1 Corinthians 15:39 Context
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption
Revelation 22:10-11
10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand [final judgment].
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still [telestial kingdom]: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still [outer darkness]: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still [terrestrial kingdom]: and he that is holy, let him be holy still [celestial kingdom].
However, this doctrine of three heavenly kingdoms also appears in the writings of St. Gregory of Sinai (1260s - November 27, 1346) in his On Commandments and Doctrines:
"By 'many dwelling-places' (John 14:2) the Savior meant the differing stages of spiritual ascent and states of development in the other world; for although the kingdom of heaven is one, there are many different levels within it. That is to say, there is place for both heavenly and earthy men (cf. 1 Cor. 15:48) according to their virtue, their knowledge and the degree of deification that they have attained. 'For there is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars, for one star differs from another star in glory' (1 Cor. 15:41); and yet all of them shine in a single divine firmament."[3]
Have you cleansed yourself of all ungodliness? No?
How do you go to celestial kingdom if you're being exalted to god of your own planet
yeah if you're a god with your own planets that's the celestial kingdom. actually there's a place you can go. it's kind of like a club house. in fact it's called the celestial kingdom club house. it's kind of boring though, unless you like to gossip about other gods. also if you want to get ministered to by ministering angels you go to the celestial kingdom club house. we won't go down that road too far okay?
@@longnamenocansayy that was hilarious
But... The celestial kingdom is where heavenly father is. So, how are you a god of your own stuff when you're supposedly with heavenly father?
Also, is there a hot tub in this clubhouse
@@prov25two66 what goes on in the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse.
@@longnamenocansayy so, if you know, you know
let me add my opinion of faith vs. works. i don't think the mormons know the difference between faith and works. when the sick man was being lowered down through the roof he had faith that jesus would heal him. he was not working. he was too sick to do any work at all. he could not work. he had faith. his faith was accurate. it was in Jesus. God is calling people to have faith in jesus and become a part of the family of god. if you are working at having your own family and being a god to your own family, on another planet, you have the wrong jesus. the plan of salvation that is in the bible is to have faith in jesus for salvation, just like the sick man had faith in jesus to be healed, we need to have faith in jesus to be saved from hell. we have the spirit of adoption whereby we say abba father. abba means daddy. we have the personal relationship that a father and child have.
WOW! Powerful example! Thank you!
Ephesians 2 vs James 2
@@longnamenocansayy you are not using "faith without works is dead" correctly. Works is the EVIDENCE of the faith, but not the RESULT of the faith.
in 2019 we use the phrase "lip-service" to denote those that say something without meaning. "faith without works is dead" is another way of saying "lip-service".
For example, if I told my wife that I loved her so much, but did nothing for her, no one would believe that I really loved her and only paying "lip-service". However, if I TRULY love my wife, then I will do everything for her BECAUSE I love her, not to PROVE my faith to her.
@Mike K showed you Ephesians 2:8-9 on purpose because if you read that verse at least 20 times (minimum, this way you understand it) unless the Bible has passages that contradict, it even says "NOT OF WORKS". Seriously, read the verse 20 times, not 4 or 17 but 20 times. Maybe you might actually get it into your heart and mind.
@Kenzie K sadly they get it from many who teach it wrong. It gets passed down as truth. It wasn't until I did more study I didn't understand it either.
@Kenzie K the difference between christians not knowing what faith is and mormons not knowing what faith is mountain meadows massacre. now you know what's behind mormonism. 120 dead people murdered at the orders of brigham young.
Pretty accurate. Your videos are bold and full of links and info, which I think is great for those who want to question your info's validation, good job Jess.
The Mormon church is so depressing and the Christian believes is like a breath of fresh air. I sometimes feel like I am going to hell because my family keeps telling me that I am for leaving the Mormon church.
TO: @Laya Halls
RE: apostasy ... Leaving the Church does not automatically send someone to hell. It's only a sin if you know it is a sin. Sin is when you know right and do wrong. ... peace
@@harryabelpotter9630 😊Thanks
@@harryabelpotter9630 mormons believe that sin is an inconvenient action that can be cut out of your life like a wart. thus you stated the mormon view accurately, "It's only a sin if you know it is a sin"
mormons do not believe in sin nature. mormonism is not christian.
the christian bible speaks very clearly of sin nature.
as for example eve who sinned unkowingly, but was beguiled, and adam who sinned knowingly. the consequences were the same for both of them. god's provision was identical. both of them were covered by the blood that was shed by an animal, and they both were covered by the skins of that animal.
later god talks to moses of sin that is unintentional: “The Lord said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, When anyone sins unintentionally…if the whole community sins unintentionally…when a leader sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the commands of the Lord his God, he is guilty.” Leviticus 4:1-2, 13a, 22a
there were also intentional sins such as lying, and provisions were made.
the most common of all sacrifices was the burnt offering, the burnt offering is associated with the nature of human beings as for example any woman who bore a child: (both a sin offering and a burnt offering were required, Lev. 12:6-8).
in christianity, it is our nature to sin. sin is not an extraneous note that can be lanced out of the soul. it is part of our nature.
The words of John the Baptist are especially relevant, since he did not say, “who takes away the sins (plural) of the world,” but rather, “who takes away the sin of the world.” Christ as the Lamb of God, as the antitype of the burnt offering, deals with the depravity of man, with man’s sinfulness in general, as well as his sinfulness in terms of specific sins.
in christianity, there is no progression to godhood for man because man has a sin nature. there is no amway progression through the tiers.
in christianity there is only heaven which comes by unmerited favor of god who is just, or the just judgements of god and condemnation to hell. because of our sin nature, we all sin and there is no meritorious work that can pay for the effects of sin.
mormonism is a pagan religion where your degree of righteousness and your eventual tier are rewards for meritorious works. the highest tier level of mormonism, called the celestial kingdom, is marked by numberless concourses of harem trophies and concubines and their offspring, who worship you as god.
the end result of mormonism is distinctly pagan and distinctly anti christian. because the most important commandment in all of christianity is: hear o israel the lord our god the lord is one.
wiki has an article on sh'ma.
to: @@longnamenocansayy
re: your opinion
What's your bias ... what faith tradition do you follow ... or are you an atheist?
@@harryabelpotter9630 i have no tattoos and my fate is my own.
my father hated my mother and bestowed the same hatreds to me because cuckold in his own house.
i was always left to wonder. now as strange as it must seem to some people, i consider it a blessing which i see no reason to give up.
when i sit in mass i hope they think i am catholic. when i sit with the men in synagogue i wonder, does my yarmulke make me look jewish? and so on.......
or do i give offense? should i take off my cloak because it gives offense? paul says.......
i was called by the one true god. so i can tell you who my father is.
there must be a yearning in your pagan heart. there always will be because you don't know who.
Love all the videos! Glad to hear you say there are many more to come!!
JESSIE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR VIDEOS
By the way, the ones that are cast into outer darkness are only the devil and his angels, and those who join with him to fight against God! This may include some apostates, but not all. Many are apostates out of gross ignorance, deceived by Satan and his helpers.
I agree with you completely from 7:00 to 10:08....and I’m a Mormon. It’s what is taught to us.
She is a liar and a wolf. Wake up!
As an exmo, with many loved ones still in, I've had no one able to explain how Christ and Bible, according to Mormons, lay out the idea that faith, repentance, baptism, and a life devoted to God, where Christ warns of anything more or less added, but yet now requires new covenants and ordinances. The BoM was said to contain the fullness of the gospel. It has no talks of a requirement for more promises in order to be with family forever.
@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792 Lol. That too.
@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792 thanks for edit
@@Kalama_Llama_King_Kong where does christ warn of anything more or less?
@@TheRastacabbage 3 Nephi. I believe Chapter 11. He's very specific about how to bless sacrament and what his gospel is. I believe Matt 24 or 25 he gives similar message.
@@Kalama_Llama_King_Kong Deuteronomy 4:2. Shouldn't that have been where it ended?
A Mormon claimed the Doctrine and Covenants are true. So the question is, why don’t you believe:
LDS doctrine and Covenants 20:
27 As well as those who should come after, who should believe in the gifts and callings of God by the Holy Ghost, which beareth record of the Father and of the Son;
28 Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.
@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792
… but Mormons are not allowed to believe in the Trinity.
There should not be any confusion over what you believe.
Mormons believe that there are three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Ghost ***** one in purpose***** although no one has been able to show where, in either the Bible OR the BoM, there is any mention of this "one in purpose". It was a figment of JS very vivid imagination. And Mormons certainly do not believe St. John 17:20-26!!!!!
Up until the time JS joined the Freemasons, it appears he had a Christian concept of God … 2 Nephi 31:21 etc + D&D 20:28. After he joined the Masons, he changed his mind as is shown in the 7th April, 1844 King Follett Discourse.
So … may I inform, once again, that the truth lies with Christians and not with the LDS? The evidence is everywhere one can look in the LDS!!!!! It is just that Mormons listen to the LDS instead of using their God given brains: we are to love the Lord God with all our hearts, and with all our souls, and with all our strength and with all our MINDS and our neighbors as ourselves.
It is because we love Mormons who have a genuine desire to live good lives, that we want to rescue them from the lies of the LDS.
@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792
"who said we believe in the pagan ideal of the trinity?" Nobody. Do you reads and understand what it written? This statement of yours makes no sense … along with the beliefs of the LDS.
To repeat so that you may get it now:
1. The trinity is not a pagan ideal, it is a firm and foundational belief of Christianity - the LDS claims it is Christian in the LDS Gospel Topic Essays, doesn't it? Or haven't yo read them?
2. There are a whole host of quotations in the BoM confirming the Trinity: 2 Nephi 31:21. Do you know what the definition of the Trinity is? If you did, you would see that this quotation from the BoM is a most accurate definition. If you do not know the definition - that would account for your confusion.
3. D&C 20: 26 is another definition of the Trinity.
You do not seem to understand that when JS dictated the BoM when he had his head in a hat with a seer stone (God help us), he did so from a Christian perspective. It was only after he became a Freemason that he changed his mind as is recorded in the 7th April, 1844 King Follett Discourse.
You really don't seem to know the details of your own religion.
I've read quite widely - so please don't try and correct me when don't understand what you are writing about? "It seems you are the one confused child." This is an insult … is this all you can muster to cover your ignorance of important LDS beliefs?
" It is the trinity believers that deny this and want to claim it is only figurative. speaking of 11, 21-23.." It is the LDS that has this wrong and Christians that have it right … but this is just more misleading by the LDS: St. John 17:21 even as thou, Father, in me and I am in thee; … That is the Trinity . If the Father has a body, which the LDS insists … how can Jesus' body be in the Father's body … patently absurd … and this masquerades as an intelligent belief based on the Bible?????????
This should correct you and the LDS … but you are not correctable, are you?:
Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature.
Blessings - the truth will make you free.
Jesus told us to be one as He was with the Father. Unified. Of one heart and mind. They have separate celestial bodies.
I have a question for the Christians please. My brother in law comitted suicide last week. I am struggling. How do I get comfort in your version of God's plan for mankind? Is there hope for my brother in law who was agnostic in his beliefs at the time of his death?
the question is commonly asked on this channel.
it's usually some form of gamesmanship.
what has god told you? did you ask god?
did you fast and pray? how long should you fast and what should the fast consist of?
i will tell you straight up, if it's not important to you, it's not important to god. that means if 2 meals fasting is no big thing to you, it's no big deal to god.
there are people who fast and pray and read the scriptures constantly. their focus is on god.
and there are people who think a good game of marbles is more important than the 30 minutes they spend searching for god.
my guess is that most all christians hurt. they hurt a lot. they feel things. they're confused about things. but always their focus is on god and what god wants and what god is doing.
@@longnamenocansayy good answer. I would say the devoted LDS are the same. They focus on God, no matter how that looks like.
@@Imtryingtobelikejesus-m1m how many times in my life have i heard the same thing?
there is no good there is no bad there is no god and if there was a god he would not have a right to judge people.
one of the gods in india was named kali. his followers were known as thugs. the thugs of india worshiped their god kali by strangling travelers and stealing all their goods.
since life is just an illusion and there is no good and there is no bad what difference does it make what god you worship? isn't that basically what you're all about?
one of the more common religions through the ages has been baal worship.
masonry is thinly veiled baal worship, and mormonism is thinly veiled masonry.
the highpoint of masonry/mormonism is becoming a god. good and bad are all mixed up in both traditions.
in mormonism e.g. adam had to fall to know good and evil and becoome a god.
in masonry a man is a composite of good and bad like the black and white squares of a checkerboard.
mormonism borrows a lot from masonry, for example: the secret handshakes, the square and compass, beehive, and other masonic symbolism.
the highpoint of mormonism is having lotsa lotsa wives and populating other earths and being a god to all your posterity.
mormonism is basically a sex cult, which is what baal worship is at the core.
@@longnamenocansayy Guess we are just talking in circles once again. This "sex cult" has taught me to only have sex with one guy - my husband. He has been and will alway be the only one I have sex with. And this "multi God cult" has taught me to only worship one God. Go figure.
I love what you're doing Jessie. Keep it up. People need to know the truth. I just stumbled upon a video trying to debunk you, but I had to stop it 5 minutes in when I saw how biased they were in trying to defend The Book of Moron. Talk about a lost cause!
You are equating Salvation and Eternal life. They are not necessarily the same. The Bible sometimes speaks to being saved from death and hell (a pure gift of love and grace from God) and sometimes being saved unto the glory of eternal life (a gift of both divine grace and personal effort in our quest to follow our Savior and be like Him). To be crystal clear, we are saved by Grace alone. This is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints position, and always has been it's position. However, pretty much the whole of the New Testament supports that we actually need to be Christian, and not just say we are Christian. If you read the Bible, how many times in the New Testament has an emphasis been placed on keeping the commandments?? Jesus, Paul and everyone else focused on this over and over and over. Jesus gave the commandments! He had great respect for the commandments! "Good Master, what must I do to have Eternal Life?" Jesus replied "Keep the commandments." Could a more clear or straightforward answer be given?
Grace saves and justifies us completely. But grace alone does not sanctify us. There is a personal effort involved with sanctification; and sanctification is made possible through the grace of God and our personal efforts in our quest to follow our Savior as we continually and truly repent of our sins, keep the commandments and ordinances of the gospel, and endure faithfully to the end. Only a person that has been transformed by grace may have Eternal Life with our Father in Heaven. Jesus is clear on this. His grace covers our sins and fully redeems us from death and Hell, but it does not fully change us all at once to become a Holy being. That takes time, effort and continued grace. Grace is not just a one time thing. It is as far as salvation is concerned; but it is also a continual process on the path to exaltation and Eternal Life with our Father in Heaven. Again we in no way can do this on our own power or by our own means. Jesus's atonement is infinite and eternal. It needs to be if we have any hope of one day becoming pure in thought, word, action, deed, heart and being, just as Christ is.
Paul in particular wanted to make it crystal clear that works will not save us. There are many people I have met that say "I don't need Jesus, I am a good person." That could not be further from the truth, as all our good works "are as filthy rags." There is nothing that we could do on our own power to save ourselves. Christ saves. However, Christ asks us to follow Him, that we might be transformed and have "no more desire to do evil, but to do good continually." Only a person who is transformed in this way can live with God, as this person will indeed keep the laws and ways of God, not only in the letter of the law, but the Spirit of the law also. They will truly be changed and transformed, which of course requires our effort as well as God's continued grace.
In order to have Eternal life we must be completely free not only of the consequences of sin, but the tyranny of sin. Could we sin in our Father's house and remain there? No, lest our Father's house be dirty. No unclean thing may dwell with God, and if we continue to sin and cannot abide God's law, then we cannot inherit His glory, nor have place in His same Kingdom. Also, can the mercy of God rob justice? Will the sinner who turns to Christ in his dying breath instantly have Eternal Life the same as Moses and Abraham and Peter and Paul and John the Baptist, who sacrificed everything and committed their whole lives to to God and keeping His commandments and where truly sanctified by the atoning blood of Christ? No; though that sinner will have salvation, he will not inherit that same glory unless he is completely transformed and the reign of sin is completely ended in his being. Romans 6:1-2: "How shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"
Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
Eternal life is defined as "knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent" (John 17:3). "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments"; then "Every one that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him" (1 John 1-2) and does not by definition have Eternal Life. It is not enough to know about God, we must know God. And how can we really know Him, except we become like Him and live the way He lives, think the way He thinks, love the way He loves, act the way He would act. That is how we come to know God, how we invite His Spirit into our lives and hearts and have a glimmer of the what it means to have Eternal life.
As for the story of the debtor and creditor. Here is furthering the interpretation, which you are missing. The man would go to jail unless the debt was paid in full. When the benefactor (friend) paid the debt, he FREED the man, completely! The man was saved from jail. That's the difference when Christ saved all mankind from death and Hell because He loves us, He really did! You are correct in that. But you are missing the point of this story. What put the man in debt or caused the man to be in debt?? was it not his bad choices. See, this particular benefactor (Christ) loves us even more than we can tell. He wants us to never have problems with debt again! He wants us to learn how to become responsible. He wants us to learn to take care of ourselves and be wise like He is. He wants not only to free us from our current debt, but help us change our minds, hearts and souls permanently and completely!
We don't pay Christ or the benefactor at all! But we do learn and are taught from the benefactor and we do owe him our allegiance and loyalty, our hearts and our minds and use the gift He has given us! In fact this benefactor is so generous that he is willing to share all that He has with us! But He does ask that we become responsible first. He asks us that we grow grace from grace and precept upon precept, until we are just like Him, who is perfect in his stewardship. We cannot do this on our own power, or by ourselves, but He promises to help us, be there for us, aid us, lift us and continue to guide us in this process.
The creditor saved from jail (death and Hell!) and payment was made in full. But, to inherit all that this beloved benefactor has, requires we are responsible as He is and that we follow the same rules He does and develop the same mind and heart and perfect unity with Him. This does not happen instantly!!!!! There is not a complete and lasting transformation of the believer that suddenly makes him perfectly Holy all at once!! That believer will still fall victim to continual sin and shortcomings. That believer will not be like the Savior in an instant!!! That takes faith, effort, repentance, patience, endurance, hope, charity, obedience, diligence, covenants and willingness to continue to learn from and follow the benefactor.
Again Jesus justifies us completely before God and that alone saves us! But that does not immediately sanctify us!! WE MUST CHANGE, we must overcome the wickedness and corruption of the flesh. We must no longer not only be stained by sin, but no longer have sin be the master of our souls. Again we cannot do this alone, we need divine help. We cannot sin and inherit all that God has or dwell in His presence, lest He be unclean also, for no unclean thing can dwell with God.
Again Salvation from death and hell is not the same as eternal life! Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Revelation 22:14-15 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."
Hebrews 5:9 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him"
It is clear, there are standards. We must become Holy, actually fully transformed beings, who no longer have any disposition to do evil or sin, but to do good continually. It is that inward transformation, which is what following Jesus Christ is all about. We will inherit the Glory that we are able to abide.
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you did very well jessie. for the me the most important point was that you explained that since they have an alternate Jesus their faith is false. for christians, salvation comes because of faith in Jesus, but if you have an alternate jesus you don't have faith to begin with. i have never heard the mormon plan of salvation the way you explained it, but i think it's accurate. when the mormons comment that you don't know what you're talking about just take comfort in the fact that they tell sandra tanner the same thing, and she's been studying mormonism for over 50 years, and her family goes all the way back to brigham young. one last thing: mormons sustain the prophet as prophet seer and revelator, but not policy maker. so i'm kind of curious who's making the recent policy changes? they aren't revelations so it can't be nelson. when did the mormon church change from being lead of god by revelation to being lead by policy? just curious. maybe a tbm could comment to my comment.
Alternate Jesus? You mean that there's two of them? I had no idea!
I like the different Jesus argument since I was a Southern Baptist for 30 years before my 46 years with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So, what is the difference?
Maybe this help clarify.
1 Corinthians 15:39 Context
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption
Revelation 22:10-11
10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand [final judgment].
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still [telestial kingdom]: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still [outer darkness]: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still [terrestrial kingdom]: and he that is holy, let him be holy still [celestial kingdom].
However, this doctrine of three heavenly kingdoms also appears in the writings of St. Gregory of Sinai (1260s - November 27, 1346) in his On Commandments and Doctrines:
"By 'many dwelling-places' (John 14:2) the Savior meant the differing stages of spiritual ascent and states of development in the other world; for although the kingdom of heaven is one, there are many different levels within it. That is to say, there is place for both heavenly and earthy men (cf. 1 Cor. 15:48) according to their virtue, their knowledge and the degree of deification that they have attained. 'For there is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars, for one star differs from another star in glory' (1 Cor. 15:41); and yet all of them shine in a single divine firmament."[3]
The closest thing Scripture says to there being different levels of heaven is found in 2 Corinthians 12:2, “I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.” Some interpret this as indicating that there are three different levels of heaven. This view has no basis in Scripture.
Paul is not saying that there are three heavens or even three levels of heaven. In many ancient cultures, people used the term heaven to describe three different “realms”-the sky, outer space, and then a spiritual heaven. Paul was saying that God took him to the “spiritual” heaven-the realm beyond the physical universe where God dwells. The concept of different levels of heaven may have come in part from Dante’s The Divine Comedy in which the poet describes both heaven and hell as having nine different levels. The Divine Comedy, however, is a fictional work. The idea of different levels of heaven is foreign to Scripture.
Scripture does speak of different rewards in heaven. Jesus said regarding rewards, “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done” (Revelation 22:12). Since Jesus will be distributing rewards on the basis of what we have done, we can safely say that there will be a time of reward for believers and that the rewards will differ somewhat from person to person.
Only those works that survive God’s refining fire have eternal value and will be worthy of reward. Those valuable works are referred to as “gold, silver, and costly stones” (1 Corinthians 3:12) and are those things that are built upon the foundation of faith in Christ. Those works that will not be rewarded are called “wood, hay, and stubble”; these are not evil deeds but shallow activities with no eternal value. Rewards will be distributed at the “judgment seat of Christ,” a place where believers’ lives will be evaluated for the purpose of rewards. “Judgment” of believers never refers to punishment for sin. Jesus Christ was punished for our sin when He died on the cross, and God said about us: “I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more” (Hebrews 8:12). What a glorious thought! The Christian need never fear punishment, but can look forward to crowns of reward that he can cast at the feet of the Savior. In conclusion, there are not different levels of heaven, but there are different levels of reward in heaven.
www.gotquestions.org/levels-heaven.html
Thank you for the video Jessica! I watch all of these and sometimes a couple times. Glad to see you're getting some subscribers and attention too! It's pretty brave to put yourself out there like this talking about a topic that we both know you'll get a lot of pushback on.
Thank you Jessie! I really appreciate your words and instruction. I think I will use this information and these quotes in my Sunday School lesson next week. Very helpful!!
The Bible speaks of Prophets and that the Lord God reveals his will to Prophets.
She lies and is a wolf. Wise up!
Acts 4:12 “Neither is there salvation IN ANY OTHER: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Mormons also believe that Jesus himself wasn't God to begin with but a simple man who had to achieve his deity status through the good works of the church. Total nonsense! God is the same yesterday today and forever more and according to John Jesus is God. Jesus never had to achieve anything. He was always God and never just a man. Also, I don't need the redeeming blood of Christ if I can become my own god one day and achieve the Celestial Kingdom. Christ sacrifice is meaningless to me then. No need for it if I can be my own god and create my own planet and have multiple wives on Kolab forever. Lol. Mormonism as fascinating as it is never made any sense to me as a Christian.
@David Hogg cont. Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. (3 separate beings in 3 separate places at one time)
John 11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thankthee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
John 6: 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but THE WILL OF HIM THAT SENT ME.
The Jesus of the Bible Is salvation, the jesus of Mormonism is not but salvation is earned by being worthy by personal efforts.
The Christian Does Good Works as a product of salvation.
Mormons do Good works for salvation.
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Good works do not produce salvation. Good works are the product of salvation. Jesus said to His followers, “Let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven” (Matthew 5:16).
Well put. As we " put on the new man in Christ" it is of course reflected in our actions and thoughts.
@@Raze120 Not in order to gain Salvation, though. Once saved (past tense) our "fruits" or "works" should come naturally as we live to honor and glorify God. Works are not part of the "salvation process" like in a works-based religion but are a natural response to an already saved soul that has been redeemed and transformed by Jesus Christ.
Mormons don't do works for salvation, the Book of Mormon validates this by saying that after all we can do Christ still needs to save us. We do works because we love God and want to do His will by keeping the commandments.
We do however believe that the mansion (as the Bible defines it) that we inherit depends on our faithfulness (or how many of our treasures we place in heaven).
@@AntonydenDulk They think this in Nephi 23:25 For all that we know it is by grace through faith after all that we can do. That’s what they believe that’s the Mormon salvation that Mormons know but however it’s unbiblical but the Bible it says otherwise. The Bible says in Ephesians 2:8:9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. That’s the biblical salvation that Christians and most of types of Christians know.
What is the official LDS document that describes their plan of salvation?
i always say trying to pin down what mormons believe in is like nailing jello to the wall.
the official mormon doctrine is quite often so embarrassing they disavow it, in favor of non authorized spin doctors. fairmormon is the spin doctor of choice these days.
utah lighthouse has a lot of free information, highly suggested.
jessie does a very good job distilling the basics. and a definite plus is listening to her pleasant voice and attractive smile. dan vogel on youtube has a lot of good vidoes on mormonism, but you have to be dedicated to the subject to watch him.
any video by sandra tanner here on youtube is worth the watch. she has a very cute sense of humor that pops up onct'while.
here's my spin: mormonism is a polytheistic cult. they believe in more than one god, and they believe that they can become a god. they believe in no hell. everyone gets a degree of glory, which they earn according to their works. the highest glory is where men attain godhood, and live with vast harems of women, who they copulate with to produce babies. they are gods to all the babies they produce.
quite obviously mormonism is a satanic cult. but you can't tell them that. they believe they are the only true christians on the face of the earth.
longnamenocansayy Thank you very much! Too bad Sandra doesn’t seem to have her own channel. My wife and I love to watch her. Looks like I will do better not to talk with LDS neighbors. God bless you really good!
Helpful websites.
carm.org/mormonism
www.eternallifeblog.com/jesus-divide-families/
Videos by Sandra Tanner, the great granddaughter of Brigham Young.
th-cam.com/video/X6o6KW02w7Q/w-d-xo.html
Videos by Jeff Durbin, Mike Winger and Aaron Shafavaloff
Truth in Love Ministries Free training on witnessing. Five lessons.
beyeperfect.org/
tilm.org/
mit.irr.org/lds-temple-and-lucifers-power-and-priesthood
@@gracemonkey2393 there are many outreaches to mormons. sandra tanner is very well informed, and she has the patience of 10 saints, but there was never a wagon train full of mormons beating a path to her door to get de-programmed.
i do not say don't reach out to mormons. i say be prepared for the consequences of what you say and how you approach them.
for example, someone told a mormon relative that he couldn't be a mormon because he's not perfect. my mormon relative thought he was complementing her on being a super good person. he meant that his salvation was not assured by his good works, but because god is merciful. so there was a big disconnect between what he was saying and what she heard, which is very common with mormons.
longnamenocansayy I’m having a blast preparing for our LDS neighbors. One gave me BOM and a triple. We have 1830 BOM too. I’m not looking to argue with LDS neighbors but I’m gathering questions that should cause someone to think
And they believe it! Sad!
Alana M yeah no, we believe maybe 30% of what is being said here. The rest is a gross misrepresentation of what we actually believe.
12 steps eye! Where else do we hear these steps... Hmmmm?????
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The LDS Church have no Priesthood power
Since Christ die on the Cross ended animal sacrifice . A the Melchizedek Priesthood is held only by Christ It is nontransferable
Bin Ren Agree 100%!
Actually he gave it to Peter and his other apostles by the laying on of hands. Peter, James and John visited the prophet Joseph Smith and gave him the Melchizedek Priesthood the same way. How can sacraments and baptisms (that Jesus taught were essential) be done without this authority in Jesus' way?
I think it's funny that Jessie (who does NOT want you to look at the LDS faith with any favor) is an expert on, and can interpret what is taught there. The bottom line is that we as LDS faithful are taught and believe that it is ONLY through Christ that we can be resurrected and gain access to the blessings of heaven. Every person receives that as a free gift. But wait, is that all? The answer is "no" if you read everything the Bible says about it. Salvation is also:
Mar 13:13 enduring to the end (and what does that mean?)
Mar 16:16 Jesus says belief AND baptism
Luke 7:50 faith?
Acts 2:21 calling upon the name of the Lord (what do you have to say?)
Acts 15:11 by grace?
Acts 16:31 belief alone?
Rom 5:9-11 being justified and reconciled (how?)
Rom 8:24 by hope (that’s all?)
Rom (10:9 confessing verbally (what do you say?)
Eph 2:8 it’s a total gift (and I do nothing?)
Titus 3:5 by mercy, “washing” and the Holy Ghost (how is this done?)
John 4:22 salvation is of the Jews (we have been on the wrong side?)
2 Cor 7:10 godly sorrow and repentance (how does one repent?)
Phil 2:12 working it out with fear and trembling (how?)
2 Thes 2:13 sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth? (what is that?)
2 Tim 3:15 knowing the Old Testament from childhood in order to have faith?
Heb 5:9 obedience?
If you are wondering how all these verses mesh together into the complete plan God has laid out, you can ask an missionary from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.. Even if you don't believe, are you a fair enough person to see what both sides say and not just believe one point of view?
Salvation by works...good luck with that
You are twisting and misinterpreting the Bible. Lds take the Bible and put their own definitions in place of what Christians believe. Missionaries are the last people that can explain the Christian meaning of the Bible. They only know a planned out answer about their church (to a point). They know nothing about the Bible or the true plan of salvation.
@@KathyStrickland-nh9vx: One of the scriptures forming the Standard Works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Authorized King James Version of the Bible.
I can say from the Mormonism that when I was learning about the Book of Mormon from the 2 Missionaries I had said that people who followed God or Jesus Christ. Then those people who go to the Celestial Kingdom.
My Mother would be in the second Kingdom. Because she was baptized but not in the LDS Church. My Father would be in the lowest Kingdom.
I didn't believe that one bit. I only know of one Heaven and one Hell.
I believe that God even set it up and is said that in Genesis.
You need to reread your Bible then. The Bible tells of many mansions in God's house and Paul talks about being caught up to the seventh heaven.
@@AntonydenDulk I guess you did not listen to this video about Salvation all the way through.
It's talking about what Mormons believe in Salvation and how many heavens there are according to the Mormon life of belief.
@@ernestmarcucella6918 I watched the whole video.
You said you only know of 1 heaven and I pointed out that in the Bible it talks about 7. You are denying Mormonism because it teaches multiple heavens and yet the Bible teaches it as well. Mormonism teaches 3 main graduations in the heavens with at least the Celestial having 3 levels, so at least 5 levels of heavens. The Bible teaches at least 7. To deny multiple heavens is to deny the Bible. You cannot deny Mormonism for having multiple heavens and then say you are a Bible believing Christian since to believe the Bible requires you to believe in multiple heavens.
@@AntonydenDulk Well wheew in the Bible like Chapter or Chapters would say this.
I don't believe in the Mormonism type of life.
@@ernestmarcucella6918 Paul mentions at least 3 heavens - see 2 Corinthians 12:2.
As for many mansions see John 14:2.
The only way you can reject what Joseph taught is if you reject the Bible. The doctrines he taught are scattered all through the Bible and can be seen by those who have eyes to see and heard by those who have ears to hear. If you don't see and hear then it is because you are darkened in your mind and have God's truths shut up to you.
I found this very helpful, especially the reference to Bruce R. McConkie. I didn’t realize that there is no close relationship with Jesus in Mormonism.
Well, considering the Jesus of Mormonism is merely our big brother, the big brother to Satan and Mormons relate him to Michael the Archangel, it's not surprising that there's no relationship because he isn't even God to them. He will be the "Heavenly Father" of the next world. It's so twisted and blasphemous.
But I'm glad this was helpful to you. I have many other videos on my channel as well on LDS topics. 🙂
@@itsmejessie Thank you, I've been studying LDS as of late in order to be able to interact with Mormons online. Saints Unscripted (previously 3 Mormons) is really starting to take off, and it's very concerning to me. I've endeavored to interact in the comments there. Kwaku blocked me on Twitter, so that's not really an option.
Thank you Jessie, for making this video!! God Bless you dear sister!
So for Christians Evangelical, all you need to be saved is to have faith in Jesus-Christ regardless of what I do in this life?
Yes. If you believe that Jesus Christ was the only Son of God, born of Mary, was crucified, died and resurrected and is God in human form, that's it. Now, if you believe that, you will want to work to be like Christ and do His work but belief is all that's required. Remember the thief on the cross, that was all he did.
@@KathyStrickland-nh9vx But if I believe in Christ but still decide to sleep around and do drugs, people will say I don't really have faith. So I still need to do my best to live a righteous life. Faith without works is dead. (James 2:17-18)
@@jaycie2213 We believe works are a result of faith. If we have faith we will strive to be Christ like. Because we are human we will sin (sleep around, drugs) but we will be nudged or convicted by the Holy Spirit to live a more fruitful (works) life. We can work all we want to but it doesn't get us to heaven. Faith in Jesus Christ alone is the only requirement. Denying Christ is the absolute that dooms us.
@@KathyStrickland-nh9vx Bottom line is that without faith you don't have good works, and without good works you don't have faith.
@@jaycie2213 What good works did the thief on the cross have when he came to faith?
I’m a member of the true church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and you continue to say Mormon and Mormonism... we don’t worship Mormon and are Latter Day Saints rather than “Mormons”. If you’re going to talk about the church please use the correct names. Thank you.
So true maybe because the mormons are wrong but the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints is true
B C please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :)
Well, they're not Christians, what else can you call them?
B C: Little you know about your own religion. www.mormonnewsroom.org/ This is the OFFICIAL news site for the LDS/Mormons. MORMON is even in the name. A turd by any other name still stinks the same, so the Mormons can change their name (and doctrine, because we know that God is always changing, right) all they want, but it's still a cult that follows a man, and not Christ.
Are you not indebted to Christ for you Salvation? Salvation is only in and through Christ! and all who are saved are indebted to Christ with a debt that will never be repaid. But that doesn't allow us to live in sin and continue to willingly disobey God. Matthew 7:21 "not every one that said until me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven."
I am Eternally indebted to the Lord Jesus Christ the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, he is my Lord and my God. And I invite all to follow Jesus Christ and be washed in his blood.
1 Corinthians 6:9 (AKJV) "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."
You are making assumptions and interpretations based on a lack of knowledge and understanding, For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would try to explain the beliefs of another church or why anyone would beleive someone who did. It would be like me making videos explaining what Catholics believe. I guess if I dug up the history of Catholics, Protestants, Evangelists ect, found some quotes from 100-200 years ago made by their leaders I would have an accurate picture of what those religions were about, right?
@tapir rider are you really trying to equate Joseph relating what he was told with someone explaining a churches beliefs that they don't belong to, to other people? Joseph didn't send people out to preach about other religions and how they were wrong, nor did he spend his time doing so.
If a mormon made a video trying to explain the beliefs of a baptist, catholic, protestant or evangelist to the world I can guarentee most people, including myself, would be outraged that someone with little real knowledge of said church would try to explain their beliefs. I would bet that even you would find that foolish.
@tapir rider There is not a single doctrine/belief of other churches that Joseph attempts to explain or teach in that quote. Mormon missionaries do not spend their time talking about other religions, they share what they themselves believe and the doctrines of their own church. This woman is not preaching mormons are wrong she is attempting to tell people what mormons believe, with a great deal of inaccuracies. When mormon missionaries spend all their time telling people about other churches beliefs than you can compare the two.
@NoStoppingit7 - Joseph Smith didn’t send people out to preach about other religions and how they were wrong... Maybe true... But he did spend his time in bed with underaged women, little girls and other men’s wives. When he wasn’t doing that, he was committing bank fraud and having to run from state to state to avoid incarceration. **Here’s the crazy thing. He founded a church that excommunicates sinners, while he called himself a prophet. Jesus spent all of his time with sinners, that’s where his good work could be done, and practiced forgiveness and died a brutal death on a cross so that we all may be redeemed. Totally different gospel dude. You Mormons (or whatever you call yourselves these days) aren’t fooling anyone.
So glad I didn't marry my Mormon ex girlfriend. Close one! I really loved her, and I grew up Mormon, but I just knew something was off. So grateful to call myself a Christian now, and to put my faith in Jesus entirely.
Good job Godbless
Hi Michael,yes good works does follow our faith but is for rewards after were are saved,it does not cause us to be saved. it is the work of Christ the on the Cross that counts.LDS believes that thy cannot reach Their kimgdom without good works. We are saved by faith by Gods Mercy and His work not our works.Reread my first post good works are a result of saving faith. Listen to the video again she's explains it right at the end in very clear terms.
James 2:20
@@imdustinaskmeaboutmychurch7099 what church is that?
@@davidjanbaz7728 the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints.
@@imdustinaskmeaboutmychurch7099 Just making sure, 2 Nephi25:23, states its works first and then grace.But Titus 2:11-3:8 makes it clear that were are saved by our faith first then after we can have good work/deeds.
Faith+works(everything you need to do)= salvation.That is LDS.
Christianity Faith=salvation then have good works for rewards in heaven and to show others as James states.
@@davidjanbaz7728 after all we can do his grace can save us. We work hard in this life now so when we die we can be saved Jesus came to earth to save man from sin and not In sin. Alma 11:34
The thing that actually jumps out at me is how much effort and fear mongering goes into this massive online effort to place Mormonism into this tite box by creating this biased effort to place everything this church believes into four closed corners of terrible doom and gloom, while ignoring the fact that this Salt Lake church they detest is literally the most successful church flourishing and growing world wide today, while all the other denominations today are socially and spiritually falling apart. Face it, they are literally falling apart even though they all pretend otherwise. Countless church's are massively failing apart today and unable to unite the church body into one faith, thus, unable to ever become that one prepared bride. Thousands of Christian churches in America and abroad have literally closed their doors simply because they donnot know how to successfully do what this church they hate so much actually knows how to do. That is simply keeping a whole church together and successfully keeping it growing as one Christian organization. No latterday saint churches are closing their doors today inspite of a relatively few members who are affected by the world wide faith crisis now affecting all religions today. The church of Jesus Christ of latterday saint missionaries are still converting a half a million people and the church is building dozens of new churches every week. Their parking lots are full of cars on Sunday. Just drive by one anywhere.. Nobody dares put today's Christian churches into the same biased box and confrontational corners that they all deserve to be in! Why? They are obviously failing to accomplish all of Christs efforts to make us all one bride. They are obviously not the church of the new testament because they cannot unite their own conflicting biblical doctrines into one Lord, and one faith, and one baptism like the Salt Lake church is proving they literally do. Peter and Paul were not building up separate churches as business organizations to make money and succeed by competing against other so called Christian businesses organizations which are doing today. Just watch the denominational circus on the TBN channel! How do they all opporate against the Bibles clear teachings and nobody ever takes notice? How? By turning their churches in a Wal mart against K mart type business competators. Literally putting each other out of business through the competative efforts of enticing more people to support their business church than the other minister competing down the street. You've got to think out of the box people! Do you really think the true Jesus that you believe in is sitting up in heaven gambling on the Sunday Superbowl placing a bet as to which church is going to out do the others? Turning Gods gatherings into marketing campaigns to servive or die by making money? Can you really imagine Jesus watching the other churches die and fail and then go out of business to make the one down the street rich? That would make your Jesus a ruthless business tycoon using his own followers as pauns for a worldly chess game. That is why the church in Salt Lake fits the Bible and your efforts donnot. Christ said "If your not one, then you are not mine." The whole point was to become ONE with Christs unity and not to spend all your time fighting against the only church on earth today modeling the biblical 12 apostles in Salt Lake city. A world wide church whose efforts are actually getting the job done like the biblical church clearly outlined. Do you actually think Christ wants you to defend countless failing church systems calling them all biblical Christianity which efforts ultimately devide up Christians into sesperate denominations? Yes, my friend! Devided Christian organizations all fighting against the only (one church) on the earth today that succeeds in accomplishing his one biblical churches main goal to baptize all nations before he comes? Nobody else is even coming close to the biblical world wide commission because they are all fighting against Christs unification efforts possibly getting done.
Out of the approximate 16 million LDS members, there are only between 3-4 million who are "active." That is a tragically low percentage. And in comparison to the other belief systems in the world, 16 million people is TINY. The Mormon church has the finances it does because it requires a mandatory tithe from members in order for them to reach the highest exaltation. Just because an organization has loads of money to build massive, materialistic, 30-50 million dollar temples does not mean it is doing anything right. I disagree with your entire comment. And to claim that all other churches are failing is extreme.
Funny, but Mormonism has always been divided, ever since 1844. Most notable: Joseph Smith's son was president and prophet of RLDS. Warren Jeffs is a Mormon who obeys the concept of the New and Everlasting Covenant.
But their is over 5 billion people who don't even know or believe in Jesus
@@imdustinaskmeaboutmychurch7099 That is what the thousand years of the milleneum is all about.
@@paulgregersen3570 I know that is why we work so hard to build Temple's to
"If thou wilt enter inro kife, keep the cimmandments." Whi said that mirin?!? It was Jesus Christ Matthew 19:17!!! Continued...
Money is required but hidden in a package deal within the LDS church. To get temple recommends etc. money is required, and the false blessings only come after you are dead.
There iis NO digference in the Mormon doctrine and the Biblical one! Faith without works is dead snd can not save you! There were NO altar calls recorded in the NT! "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the vommandments." Jesus Christ Matthew 19:17!!!
Jessie: 1. Resurrection does not mean salvation to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All mankind that lived will be resurrected but not everyone will be saved. Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." We do not consider being cast into the "lake of fire" to be salvation.
2. Biblical salvation requires washing (baptism), sanctification (cleansing), and justification (reconciliation) according to the Apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 6:9 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."
3. The three kingdoms of Glory are discussed by the Apostle Paul. We will be resurrected to one of these three Kingdoms of Glory. 1 Corinthians 15:40 "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:"
4. Faith: Pearl of Great Price/Articles of Faith #4: "We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost."
5. Repentance means recognition of sin, remorse for sin, repentance, restitution for that taken, and resisting the temptation to sin again.
6. Baptism by the priesthood of the Church is required. We do not accept baptism from another church.
7. The laying on of hands by the Melchizedek priesthood is required to bestow the Gift of the Holy Ghost. The power of the Holy Ghost is present for all who are receptive to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Acts 8:17 "Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost."
8. Temple Ordinances:Matthew 18:18 "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Here the Apostles were given the power to seal ordinances in the Temple. These are not discussed outside the Temple and do not appear in any scripture.
9. Celestial Marriage is an ordinance that prepares worthy members for eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom or Kingdom of God. We will be gods there and not Gods.
10. Word of Wisdom: This revelation is given to prevent addictions and to facilitate good health.
11. Sustaining the Church leaders: We members have the right to sustain changes in the Church or not.
12.Tithing: Malachi 3:10 "Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it." Luke 20:25 "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which be Cæsar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s."
13. Sacrament: Matthew 26: 26 ¶ "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."
14. Obedience: 1 Samuel 15:22 "And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams."
15: Jessie doesn't understand what the Bible says about justification. James 2:20 "But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
Background: Southern Baptist for 30 years. Then Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 40 years. There never has been a Mormon church. People call it that out of ignorance.
This is the the truth of the LDS salvation just a mixed mashed bunch of documents stuck together the story of the LDS church just contradiction after contradiction.
CONTRADICTION BETWEEN D&C 131 & 132 IN REGARDS TO SALVATION INTO THE
HIGHEST DEGREE IN JOSEPH SMITH’S CELESTIAL KINGDOM BECAUSE OF MARRIAGE
AND A CONTRADICTION WITH THE BOOK OF MORMON FOR YOUR SALVATION.
Note :
Marriage was essentially to be exalted then in under 2 months there's a change to now plural
marriage is essentially.
Why and how can that be, “TWO” different revelations in such a short period of time could
Joseph Smith “not” be getting this essential covenant correct?
i.e. D&C 131- Instructions by Joseph Smith the Prophet, given at Ramus, Illinois, May 16 and
17, 1843.1-4, Celestial marriage is essential to exaltation in the highest heaven; 5-6, How men
are sealed up unto eternal life is explained; 7-8, All spirit is matter
D&C 131- In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning
the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.
5 (May 17th, 1843.) The more sure word of prophecy means a man’s knowing that he is sealed
up unto eternal life, by revelation and the spirit of prophecy, through the power of the Holy
Priesthood.
6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance.
D&C 132- Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded
July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the
marriage covenant and the principle of plural marriage.
D&C 132:4 - For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide
not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to
enter into my glory
Joseph Smith and the LDS CHURCH highest degree in their “Celestial Kingdom” just a death
camp.
drive.google.com/file/d/1d6ChRFqSMEPaCbFnJimsvgSMotb_oRjg/view?usp=drivesdk
The only requirement mentioned in the Book of Mormon for your Salvation is repentance and
baptism 3 Nephi chapter 11:38-41.
3 Nephi 11:40 would call Joseph Smith and LDS church as evil.
SOME JOSEPH SMITH DOCTRINE BELOW TO THINK ABOUT.
Highlight - Orange - Oct 17, 2017:
94 They who dwell in his presence are the church of the Firstborn; and they see as they are
seen, and know as they are known, having received of his fulness and of his grace; 95 And he
makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion.
D&C 76, Doctrine and Covenants
Note:
The LDS believe that they can become equals to God equal in power and etc ????
THE GOD OF THIS WORLD.
2 Corinthians 4:4 the god of this World.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14
@@Raze120: Yes of course. There has never been a Mormon church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was named that by the Lord himself on April 26, 1838. Doctrine & Covenants 115:3 "And also unto my faithful servants who are of the high council of my church in Zion, for thus it shall be called, and unto all the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world;
4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
@@Raze120: Why disagree?
David Burns please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :)
@@veganlife13: Both D&C 131 and 132 are about exaltation (eternal life) and not about salvation. D&C 131 announces the New and Everlasting Covenant but doesn't explain it. D&C 132 explains the principle of Eternal Marriage in verses 1- 60. The principle of plural wives (polygyny) is discussed in D&C 132:61 to the end of the section.
"The only requirement mentioned in the Book of Mormon for your Salvation is repentance and
baptism 3 Nephi chapter 11:38-41.
3 Nephi 11:40 would call Joseph Smith and LDS church as evil." 3 Nephi 11:38 "And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God. 39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and whoso buildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them. 40 And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them." I believe in addition to repentance and baptism is the requirement to become as a little child willing to submit your will to the will of our Heavenly Father. Mosiah 3:19 "For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father."
"The LDS believe that they can become equals to God equal in power and etc ????" D&C 76:94 "They who dwell in his presence are the church of the Firstborn; and they see as they are seen, and know as they are known, having received of his fulness and of his grace;
95 And he makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion." D&C 76 is about the three kingdoms of glory. These verses explain that all those who inherit the Celestrial Kingdom are equal. It doesn't say they will be equal to God.
The God of this World: Psalm 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." Jesus Christ is the God of this earth. It is his stewardship from our Heavenly Father.
Who is/was Lucifer's father? He was a son of the morning according to Isaiah 14. Where did he come from?
I love the baptism of the Dead thing with the Mormons as well that the Apostle Paul talks about. Paul isn't talking about a physical death, but a spiritual death in the Bible. Getting baptized for somebody in the here and the now for somebody who has passed away and is in "outer Darkness" isn't going to pull them out of hell. Paul is talking about the spiritually dead. Mormons love to twist that.
Why does christ not command the disciples to baptise the dead?
benmiddleton9984: Well the Apostle Paul is talking/teaching the doctrine of resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15. Resurrection generally means the return of the spirit to its body and the restoration of that body.
Only 0:35 seconds in, and you're wrong. The LDS faith does not equate resurrection with salvation. The first being the body and spirit coming back together in a perfect immortal union, and the later being in the presence of God.
I'll listen to the rest, but you're off to a bad start, and it will be interesting to see where this leads from such a false premise to begin with.
www.lds.org/study/ensign/1998/05/have-you-been-saved?lang=eng
www.lds.org/topics/salvation?lang=eng
www.lds.org/topics/resurrection?lang=eng
She is actually correct, and when she stated "to some extent", she is starting off correctly because Lds members do believe the atonement of Christ is, in some way, saving them because it would be considered the "first estate" of the 3 different resurrections they believe in.
@@MaxwellsUnearthly you're still equating being saved (salvation) with being resurrected. LDS do believe that everyone who ever lived on earth will be resurrected, but don't call that being saved.
@@pilotandy_com One of the links I sent specifically says there are 6 definitions of "saved" to the LDS. And yes, I said "to some extent" which is the truth.
@@pilotandy_com um, what do you think resurrection means?,resurrection is a gift to all man kind and the definition of that gift is salvation, which is a form of being saved, yeah, so, yeah.
For those who claim there is no Trinity in the Bible, they should look no further that the first Chapter of Genesis 1:
26 Then God said, "Let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image (singular), after our (plural) likeness (singular); and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
Then there is
St. John 1: 1:
In the beginning WAS the Word (Jesus), and the Word WAS with God, and the Word WAS God
… so, in the beginning, before creation, Jesus existed.
Colossians 1:15:
He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature.
… the first born* of every creature … is consistent with St. John
* or "begotten"?
Of course there is also Isaiah repeating again and again there is only one Almighty God … which should be obvious: one All-mighty ...
No one desputes that the Godhead is found in the bible. Problem is that in the past christians would explain the trinity as being one being manifesting in 3 persons, which is not biblical at all. It would seem from recent conversations with Christians and from what I am gathering from your post that that view has changed. So if I understand correctly the belief now is that they are 3 separate beings acting as one?
@@nostoppingit7827
"Problem is that in the past christians would explain the trinity as being one being manifesting in 3 persons, which is not biblical at all." how can you make this statement if you have read my post above?
Your following statement makes no sense at all - the Christian view of the Trinity has not changed at all.
"So if I understand correctly the belief now is that they are 3 separate beings acting as one?" … you do not understand correctly - THAT is the LDS/Mormon view of god - patently ridiculous because it is obvious there cannot be three All-mighty gods … even Christian teenagers know this.
When you make posts, can you please ensure your statements are reasonable?
@@davidhogg8721 The scriptures you quoted denote separate beings unless you are saying God was talking to himself when saying "us and our". When I get different answers from Christians I can't help but be confused. So to clarify you are stating that the belief is still that they are one being manifesting in 3 persons? As one christian explained it to me, God is one being playing different roles.
@@nostoppingit7827
"The scriptures you quoted denote separate beings unless you are saying God was talking to himself when saying "us and our" … explain to us: who else would He be talking to since man was not yet created?? Simple stuff really - that is why we can't understand how Mormons can't understand.
"So to clarify you are stating that the belief is still that they are one being manifesting in 3 persons?" Yes. The problem is that Mormons can't get away from their belief there is pre-existence when the Bible tells them there is not: Genesis 2:
7 … Adam "became" a living soul … telling us Adam was not previously a "living soul" something St. Paul confirms nature first and then spiritual … quoting this exact verse from Genesis!!!!! It is all there for everyone to see.
Before creation, what existed? As my teenage grandchildren told me very quickly: only God. Mormons cannot understand this because they think God had parent … grandparents … great grandparents etc which is nonsense: God is independent He exists … we are dependent and need to be created. Before creation with only God existing - that existence would not be sterile, God would be engaged so He would contemplate AND since nothing else existed He would self-contemplate forming an image of Himself: the Son, Jesus: Colossian 1:15 He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God.
When this is explained to Christians they get it immediately - Mormons cannot because their thinking capacity has been all screwed up with a lot of stuff that makes no sense and is un-Biblical. Which is why they accuse Christians of being non-Biblical. Mormons need the Bible to be interpreted for them correctly. Christians do not need that - they can read what is written!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That all Christians are not crisp on their beliefs is understandable - neither are all Mormons??
All easy for Christians to understand but not for Mormons for the reasons given. Sad.
@@nostoppingit7827
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@NoStoppingit7
"The scriptures you quoted denote separate beings unless you are saying God was talking to himself when saying "us and our" … explain to us: who else would He be talking to since man was not yet created?? Simple stuff really - that is why we can't understand how Mormons can't understand.
"So to clarify you are stating that the belief is still that they are one being manifesting in 3 persons?" Yes. The problem is that Mormons can't get away from their belief there is pre-existence when the Bible tells them there is not: Genesis 2:
7 … Adam "became" a living soul … telling us Adam was not previously a "living soul" something St. Paul confirms nature first and then spiritual … quoting this exact verse from Genesis!!!!! It is all there for everyone to see.
Before creation, what existed? As my teenage grandchildren told me very quickly: only God. Mormons cannot understand this because they think God had parent … grandparents … great grandparents etc which is nonsense: God is independent He exists … we are dependent and need to be created. Before creation with only God existing - that existence would not be sterile, God would be engaged so He would contemplate AND since nothing else existed He would self-contemplate forming an image of Himself: the Son, Jesus: Colossian 1:15 He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God.
When this is explained to Christians they get it immediately - Mormons cannot because their thinking capacity has been all screwed up with a lot of stuff that makes no sense and is un-Biblical. Which is why they accuse Christians of being non-Biblical. Mormons need the Bible to be interpreted for them correctly. Christians do not need that - they can read what is written!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That all Christians are not crisp on their beliefs is understandable - neither are all Mormons??
All easy for Christians to understand but not for Mormons for the reasons given. Sad.
As the good book says "Faith without works is dead" and "By their fruits ye shall know them" I so testify these things are from God and our Lord Jesus Christ. You should read the Book of Mormon for yourself, don't rely on this woman to tell you. Ask God in the Name of Jesus Christ if the Book of Mormon is true, He will show you and by the Spirit you will be convinced.
Thanks
I like 1st Corinthians 15:40
James C Johnspon please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :)
Which version of the Book of Mormon is true?
@Headless Horseman Do you know that there is no original Bible (New Testament). The Bible came well after the life and time of Jesus. So you take your FAITH in the Bible as written. So do I. But I chose to read both Old and New Testament and follow it. So, (1) as it says in the Bible in Ezekiel Chapter 37 There will be 2 books written. One book (the Bible) for Judah the children of Israel and another (the Book of Mormon) for Joseph and Ephraim. And (2) in the New Testament book of John 10:16 "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one Shepard." The Bible TOTALLY explicitly says it. Please read for yourself in the Bible study and then read the Book of Mormon. Pray and ask God with real intent if it is true and he will tell you for yourself by the Holy Spirit that it is true. I testify to you that I know that it is the Word of God Both Bible and Book of Mormon. And yes the Bible tells us so.
Notice Obediemce to the CHURCH results in salvation; it might be different if they said God or Jesus but would they dare glorify God? No they want men to follow MEN ...
bag pipes make for a better church friend than a mormon.
design core That's true....and I hate bagpipes!
Where does that teach in the Bible and the book of Mormon? Are you making things up where's your proof..
I deny the following Mormon doctrines.
I deny that there are many many gods (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 163).
I deny that the Trinity is three separate gods (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).
I deny that god is a man from another planet (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
I deny that there is a goddess mother (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
I deny that god is married to his goddess wife (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516.).
I deny that god and his goddess wife have bodies of flesh and bones (Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22; Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3.)
I deny that we were all born in the pre-existence (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 218; Articles of Faith, p. 174).
I deny that Satan is my spirit brother (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
I deny that I need a temple (Articles of Faith, p. 138).
I deny that I have the potential of becoming a god (Articles of Faith, p. 424).
I deny that the book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461).
I deny that good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, p. 81, 92).
I deny that my own blood must atone for any of my sins (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 247; see also, vol. 4, p. 53-54, 219-220).
I hope this helps.
@@fayelewis5476 i couldn't find the quote in articles of faith by talmage about goddess wives. could you copy and paste it? i was on page 443 in articles of faith by talmage for sure.
Interesting thing about the Word of Wisdom. If you read the actual text is specifically say that it is not to be a commandment. It also allows drinking of mild alcoholic beverages.
Also tithing in the actual text is not 10% of your income. So the Mormon Church doesn't even follow their own texts.
Yeah, beer is specifically ok. Lol. I think few actually read the Mormon Scriptures with any objectivity, or the whole thing would collapse.
So do you not believe in baptism as a saving ordinance?
No. Baptism is a display of obedience to God and follows Salvation but does not save your soul. I see baptism as a work. Even Paul says, "I am glad I baptized NONE of you, lest the cross be made of no effect." (My paraphrase because I don't have the passage in front of me.) And the thief on the cross was never baptized and yet Jesus promised He would see him again in paradise.
@@itsmejessie Well tell that to Jesus
Mark 16:15-17
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my names hall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Baptism comes before the signs of salvation. It is only a dead work if people forget the reason behind it, that through Christ we are saved. But it is clear that you can't be saved without it. Baptism requires priesthood authority.
Matthew 28: 19-20
19 ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
There are different works: dead and live works: Its important to not mix the context of works:
Yes the Saviour did say to the man on the cross: and yes he would eventually be baptised:
Hence the need for baptism for the dead:-
1 Cor 15:29
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
Baptism yes is an outward ordinance of an inward change, and comes before the gift of the Holy Ghost. It was clearly taught by Jesus, as essential and whose sayings come before Peter's or Paul's and their teachings have to be put into context of Christ's words, not the other way around.
@@itsmejessie That scripture is in 1 Cor. 1, you should read it in context. And that one scripture does not negate what Christ taught John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. or the countless other scriptures like Act 2:38 and the many someone else posted for you. How can you try to explain away the need of baptism when Christ himself descended below all and without any need of being baptized did so to show an example we should follow? And then He went on to preach of it's necessity. And after his resurrection he again taught the need for baptism Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judæa; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Ænon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
24 For John was not yet cast into prison.
25 Then there arose a question between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purifying.
26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.
Acts 2:38 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Baptism by water alone does not save but clearly the New Testament shows it is necessary for salvation. And how do you figure it is simply a display of obedience when Peter states it is for the remission of sins?
LDS use Christian terms and then twist or define them differently. "We are Christian's tooo!" No, say "We are corporate too."
I'm glad Jessie is preaching out on the cult of the LDS! We have the most beautiful woman on our Bible/Jesus followers side, while the LDS follow Geesus, a man became a god that is too weak to save you without YOUR own personal "works" and then He will, "make up the rest" that you weren't able to do on your own. Blasphemy!
Such a great video. SImple easy straight forward. TRUTH
I wonder how many Mormons lie to get into the temple? I would bet it to be 100% I have never met a human being that has been 100% honest in all doings and 100% accurite in following all the laws, ordinances, and commandments of the LDS Church.
Keep searching my friend, they’re out there. (:
@Ghost Music,
Everyone’s 100% is different. If that makes sense..?
God made everyone knowing everyone would be different. People would experience personal growth at their own pace. Your definition of 100% is not the same as my 100%, or even Heavenly Fathers 100%. My point is... this comment given by E R is so true because I know a lot of people who do lie or have gone through the temple not being prepared spiritually. Anyone who attempts to do their very best in doing what needs to be done should be accounted as 100%.
Then again, I also know people who do live in that 100% category in the context of this comment.
Keep exposing them sister.
YAH BLESS !
Hey, Jessie! Do you have an idea about which biblical description of an angel, Joseph Smith plagiarized in his description of the angel Moroni?
the lower heavens are damnation just saying
So does that mean if someone doesn't hear of Jesus and they die then they are going to hell?
Read Romans chapter 10! The final verses address this very thing.
All people are accountable to God whether or not they have “heard about Him.” The Bible tells us that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature (Romans 1:20) and in the hearts of people (Ecclesiastes 3:11). The problem is that the human race is sinful; we all reject this knowledge of God and rebel against Him (Romans 1:21-23). If it were not for God's grace, we would be given over to the sinful desires of our hearts, allowing us to discover how useless and miserable life is apart from Him. He does this for those who continually reject Him (Romans 1:24-32).
In reality, it is not that some people have not heard about God. Rather, the problem is that they have rejected what they have heard and what is readily seen in nature. Deuteronomy 4:29 proclaims, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” This verse teaches an important principle-everyone who truly seeks after God will find Him. If a person truly desires to know God, God will make Himself known.
The problem is “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God” (Romans 3:11). People reject the knowledge of God that is present in nature and in their own hearts, and instead decide to worship a “god” of their own creation. It is foolish to debate the fairness of God sending someone to hell who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel of Christ. People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them. The Bible says that people reject this knowledge, and therefore God is just in condemning them to hell.
Instead of debating the fate of those who have never heard, we, as Christians, should be doing our best to make sure they do hear. We are called to spread the gospel throughout the nations (Matthew 28:19-20; Acts 1:8). We know people reject the knowledge of God revealed in nature, and that must motivate us to proclaim the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. Only by accepting God’s grace through the Lord Jesus Christ can people be saved from their sins and rescued from an eternity apart from God.
If we assume that those who never hear the gospel are granted mercy from God, we will run into a terrible problem. If people who never hear the gospel are saved, it is logical that we should make sure no one ever hears the gospel. The worst thing we could do would be to share the gospel with a person and have him or her reject it. If that were to happen, he or she would be condemned. People who do not hear the gospel must be condemned, or else there is no motivation for evangelism. Why run the risk of people possibly rejecting the gospel and condemning themselves when they were previously saved because they had never heard the gospel?
Many more questions are answered at this website.
www.gotquestions.org/never-heard.html
Doctrine & Covenants 137:7 "Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God;
8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom; 9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts."
My King James version of the Bible does not teach me to point out what other religions believe and how they are wrong but commands me to preach Christ's gospel. Jesus himsef said "come follow me" an invitation to follow the example he set. He taught to be a peacemaker, to bear anothers burden, to strengthen and uplift. Rather than tearing down people's knowledge or beliefs, he increased it, teaching truths that would bring peace and joy to their lives and salvation to their souls. He commanded us to judge not and to love one another. And the bible teaches that we should be examples of the believers.
In a day and age when all religions are dwindling I find it disturbing that members of the religious community are spending all their time attacking what other believers, in God, believe rather than focusing on being examples of the believers and preaching the good word. Perhaps everyone who claims to care should ask themselves if they are creating more believers or non-believers by their actions. It would seem with the numbers of atheists and agnostics increasing that more non-believers are the result. Why try to destroy the faith of someone who at least believes in the Bible and Jesus Christ simiply because they interpret the Bible differently than you? Why try to destroy the faith of someone who belongs to a religion that believes in God but not Jesus Christ (ie. Muslims, Jews, etc.). If you think they are wrong, share what you know to be the truth. If you really believe the words of the Bible then that would be enough as the Bible teaches that the Spirit testifies of all truth. Just seems to me that less preaching against what ever one deems to be wrong and more preaching of Christ and what you believe to be right would be a better way to improve the world we are living in. And from my study of the New Testament I think the Prince of Peace would agree.
peaceliberty4all ... the bottom line is Mormons want to say “we are Christians too” ....and want be part of the “Christian community” and want all other Christian people to just like them and leave them alone .... when Mormons very own foundation is founded on absolutely ATTACKING Christians?? mormons are so hypocritical.... Joseph Smith’s first vision clearly says all other church’s are wrong and an abomination and their professors are all corrupt !!! Then in the Book of Mormon in 1Nephi 14. It clearly say there is ONLy two church’s the church of God (Mormons) ... and the church of the devil ( everyone else ) and everyone else is part of the “whore of all the earth”!! Mormons literally ATTACK Christians with their own false and deceiving Mormon doctrine.... and then try and say “but we’re christians too”. And “you should appreciate us”... and “why do they attack us we are such wonderful people”. It is so thick with self righteousness, arrogance and it’s so pathetically hypocritical ... Mormons are in a cult and most don’t even know it. Wake up... and God Bless ✝️
I can’t blame people People for rejecting Jesus. Look what religion has painted him to be.
Great job, you are klimg it!
You are Awesome!
Don't know where you get some of your "facts" but many are wrong. do better research by studying the faith its self not what you get from some hater.
What facts do you take umbrage with? I can clarify some things. Tell us.
Thank you! You’re clear and articulate. God bless you!