One of the most bizarre coincidences of all time: Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died on the same day, on July 4, 1826, the 50th birthday of the country.
Didn’t Adams and Jefferson also place a bet who would die first? Or perhaps maybe I misread/misinterpreted something. Maybe even read pseudo history. If not I find it extremely fascinating.
Adams son was the president at that time. It’s more bizarre than you think. The founders & their wives have matching birth and death dates. For example, John Adams and Martha Jefferson had the same birthday. October 30. And Jefferson was Vice President to Adams. His wife Abigail Adams birthday and death date matches Doris Dukes. November 22 -(JFK) October 28. (Gate’s birthday) - Heavily invested in Duke U…
@@howardbaxter2514 Not to mention, James Madison came up just six days short, five years after Monroe died. June 28th, 1836, just six days shy of the 60th anniversary of the declaration being signed
Respect to this show for not glamorizing or romanticizing old age. Thomas and John were both extremely sick and miserable when they died, and Giamatti and Dillane portray it very well. They did not die gracefully or peacefully, but with violence and coughing and basically rotting away in their beds.
One aspect of this mini series that you do not see very often is aging. Towards the end, the main characters had black and rotting teeth. Not pretty - but appropriate. Actors in historical movies etc are too “pretty”.
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 But those painkillers will become addicted and will die addicted will die addicted prostitutes that save the country. That’s what my doctor said
@@Wolf_Dominic i know that. What I intended to convey (and admittedly did so quite poorly) was that I don't think it was as much of a chance coincidence as most people think
@@footballdays5548 He was pretty great with foreign policy. Domestically, the Alien and Sedition Acts are what he will be remembered for. His work as a founder outranks his work as a president though.
The only bad thing he did in his life was disown his son, but it was because his son was a drunk loonie (btw I'm talking about Charles Adams, not John Quincy Adams)
@@shimmyashimmya his son was a wreck, despised his father and gave up on his own wife and kids. Sometimes enabling your family does worse than not. It still hurt Adam's, but he made a wise decision in the hopes of changing his son's life for the better. I think Charles was always an "outsider" to the rest of the family and bound to a different more destructive path.
One of the most poetic coincidences in our nation’s history is the death of the two men both on July 4th who introduced partisanship and the peaceful transition of power between political rivals
The lesson of Jefferson and Adams is something people need to be reminded of today with our Politics. Despite our differences and despite what we think we can still be friends and friendships can always be fixed as these two men did.
@@johnnyrotten6191 then you’re buying into the lies pushed by MSM. Yeah maybe the chronically online, politicians, and the media sheep hate each other but out in the real world people want to get along.
Adams can't catch a break. Jefferson's last act on Earth is to die a few hours before Adams just to gig him one last time by making his last words wrong.
Respect? Jefferson called Adams a hermaphrodite during his presidential campaign while Adams claimed that Jefferson is quite literally dead and thus unable to run :D
These two men were so intertwined in a pivotal moment in history and over their lives. It's beyond fascination. While the events didn't happen exactly as HBO's portrayal, here, the sequence did occur as portrayed. Adams' last words were "Thomas Jefferson survives" but Thomas Jefferson had died 4 to 7 hours before. Adams also said his wife's name and was in-and-out of hallucinations on his death bed. I personally believe that Jefferson, having died, welcomed Adams in his passing. Thus, Adams' statement was accurate and correct.
As a Brit, I loved this miniseries. If only for the start, how everyone is a UK colonist, and by the end you see a bunch of founding fathers try to help kickstart a fledgling nation from 13 colonies. Amazing stuff
Because that’s man we found out that this guy was a complete other fraud, a hypocrite he knew slavery was a moral sin, and always against it, but he owned slaves. He also took out a piece that would have a abolish slavery in the declaration of independence so as men, we understand a man who was nothing more than just BS.
RIP John Adams (October 30, 1735 - July 4, 1826), aged 90 And RIP Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 - July 4, 1826), aged 83 You both will be remembered as legends.
@@paulboegel8009 Not so rare for non laborers, the life expectancy was greatly lowered due to women dying in childbirth and men dying from work related illnesses. Look at Kings of earlier centuries in Europe, unless they died by the sword they lived pretty long
@@TheImapotato Infant mortality was the leading cause of the average age of life expectancy to be lower. Rich people died young in the 18th and 19th centuries. Good genes had a lot more to do with it , since medicine in those days was almost non-existent. A bacterial infection was pretty much a death sentence .
… I watched this scene once before… To my surprise, no death scene has ever brought me closer to crying than this one. I’ve seen many death scenes, but for some reason I found this one the most emotional.
I wasn't born in the 1820s but I'm sure this death sent shockwaves to everyone. Adams and Jefferson gave us America and their spirits still remain forever
Two great friends dying on the same day is a freaky coincidence in US History. Both becoming friends when serving in the Continental Congress and when they were in Europe, rivals when they found themselves working in two different parties and friends again after Jefferson concluded his presidency.
I loved visiting Jefferson’s home in Charlottesville. Upstairs was a bedroom that was specifically for John when he visited if I remember correctly. The view from that mountain is breathtaking. I have to say it woke something up in me that I’d never felt. A sense of patriotism. I then became a history buff. I was 55.
Little Known Fact: Adams and Jefferson died on John Quincy’s son John II’s birthday. Other examples are his daughter Louisa dying at one year old on his brother Thomas’s 40th and even shares a birthday with his stillborn sister, Elizabeth.
It really gets me that he thinks his grandson is John Quincy and he reaches for his hand saying, “help me child… help me child.” I cannot imagine how much that would stick to his memory. The once great and loud mouthed president reduced to a delusional and hallucinatory old man reaching for his hand.
John Quincy was the guy holding his hand? but yet looks young, yet he died in the 1840s at age 80 i think? if he looks young here how could he have been 80 in the 1840s?
No, that was his other son John Quincy Adams was the current president of the United States, and I believe that he couldn’t make it to his fathers house at the time of his funeral and his death and I believe it definitely hurt him because well remember this was the early 1800s and it would’ve taken a long time to go from DC to Massachusetts and I’m pretty sure he didn’t even get the news until like a couple weeks later
The Founding Fathers who fought hard to defend America's independence and it doesn't matter if you are a Liberal or a Conservative, we just need to bring love and peace to our country without feeling oppressed from each other.
UNDOUBTEDLY THIS IS THE GREATEST PIECE OF TELEVISION EITHER ON NETWORK OR CABLE IN HISTORY. THE ACTING IS SO SUPERB I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.. THE STORYLINE IS MAGNIFICENT AND THE DIRECTION IS IMPECCABLE ALMOST A PERFECT PIECE OF MOVIE OR SERIES.
It’s sad that you have so many people today who hate these two men, even Adams because they are the “epitome of the status quo”. It’s ingratitude to think that way because unlike our politicians today, guys like Adams actually consider governing to be a stressful chore rather than a power addiction.
No one hates anyone people hate white washing and the sanctification of early American historical figures . Americas history is not to be worshipped but learned from
Not alot of point in hating historical figures. You'd do as well to hate the villains at a wrestling show. I don't take people like that seriously and neither should anyone else. As for "ingratitude", welcome to humanity. Dogs are grateful, human beings mercenary.
I'll always remember and honor these men no matter what. I don't give a damn if I'm the last American standing to do it. I'm grateful for what they created. 🇺🇸
So let me guess you probably stand with Adolf Hitler no to rape you do realize this man owned slaves and old women and children right I mean you do realize that now let me tell you how stupid you really sound. This man said slavery was a moral sin, and it need to be abolished. I turned around as one of the mole, vicious slaveowners. He cheated on his wife what a slave, and refused to free his slaves. He wrote the Declaration of Independence from Thomas Paine‘s book common sense and took out a very piece of the Declaration of Independence. That would have ultimately abolish slavery now, why do you are the man and grateful for a man that could have ended slavery could have in the tournament in torture for millions of people, but chose not to you probably love Adolf Hitler to you. Democrats are all the same.
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It wasn't like the European Middle Ages where the average person lived to like 30 people could already grow old just like us but the infant mortality rates skewed the data
Of the first twelve presidents, Adams (and his son) were the only two who never owned slaves. Adams, along with Hamilton was one of only two of the core Founding Fathers who never owned slaves.
Yup the Adams were notorious for being among the earliest supporters of abolitionism, condemning the practice of slavery and Quincy’s involvement in the Amistad case
To Jefferson and Washington's credit they wanted to free them but were prohibited by law. Jefferson inherited his and worked to abolish slavery even ending the Atlantic Slave Trade. Washington paid his slaves and set up retirement for them on his farm.
@@NotMyWar Franklin actually owned 2 slaves, George and King. They worked as his personal slaves. He also ran ads in his newspaper for the sale of slaves and contracts for indentured laborers. It wasn't until 1763 that his attitudes towards Africans began to change (he grew up believing Africans were inferior to whites in almost every way) - when he visited a school where young African children were taught. His hatred of the British (who he saw as wanting to "enslave" the American colonies) also made him think about his attitude towards slavery in general.
@@arbazalam373 America is more of an idea than a nationality... the idea that people can govern themselves with very little government interference. Well, history shows us that after a period of relative freedom people start to feel like they want the government to control life and slow it down. In my opinion its stupid but hey, what can I do against the will of 200-250mil Americans who either didnt vote or voted for massive government expansion (+ another 75mil that voted in favor of slow government expansion). That is, if I was even a US citizen which unfortunately Im not.
These two men were simply amazing. Their passion for their ideals shaped the modern world, and they showed that two men completely different ideological could respect one another and be dear friends
The way Jefferson is portrayed in the film, I didn't see much "respect" for Adams. In real life, who knows? What is portrayed in the film is that Jefferson was quite brutal to Adams back in the day. Smooth... but brutal. Adams never could seem to understand why. Jefferson was cerebral, and clearly liked a good argument. Adams could give a good one back.
More than just a TV series, the book John Adams, written by David McCullough, was one of two he wrote that won the Pulitzer Prize. The other was 1776. He will always be remembered as a writer whose histories were not only accurate, but they were as engaging as any novel.
There is a statement John Adams made about America should it fall away from what he helped create. After everything he and so many others sacrificed to build this nation if it should fall away because of our own hubris he said "I'll repent in heaven for having ever created it".
@@Walker-ow7vjif you want to make excuses for those that knowingly exploited others for their own personal gain because they you have a soft spot for the founders and or some notion of American exceptionalism than go right ahead. I won't do that.
When I first watched this, I quickly reacted it me getting sad. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, you will always be safe in heaven with the rest of your family.🇺🇸✝️😇🥺
I wonder how many people on their death beds mutter something incomprehensible, and their last thought before they blink out is "Damn, those were some smooth last words-"
My wife’s class she teaches visited DC for a trip and I got to chaperone. TJ is one of my favorites as well, and when we got to his memorial, and how it showed all he’d done, I cried. He was an amazing human. He was human but his brilliance, his gift for words, and his politics still stick with me to this day. Love Franklin, Mr Washington, and Adam’s even though his politics are different than mine, but Jefferson was always who captured my ideals and my politic
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 Unfortunately , slavery was an excepted practice then. Virtually every culture had this practice at one time or another. Besides , it is difficult to transpose social issues out of context.
That's like 2 full lifetimes ago, it's crazy how close it is yet so distant. More realistically If people have children in their early 30s that's 6 generation ago. Imagine your grandfather's grand-grandfather lived at the same time than those man.
It was so long ago, yet it was just yesterday when you compare it to the time of Julius Caesar. Caesar was just yesterday compared to the time of the ancient Egyptians who were just yesterday compared to the dawn of humanity which was just yesterday compared to the formation of the earth which was just yesterday compared to the formation of the universe.
Rest In Peace to Our US Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson who died in the same day on July 4 1826. Rest In Peace To 2nd President John Adams and 3rd President Thomas Jefferson Rest in America
For all their flaws, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were giants. It is such Providence that they came together at the same time, and built what they built together. The United States will soon be 250 years old, and made into another 250 years after that, and another and another!
It may only have meant that, aside from the provisions made for Sally and her immediate family, that they knew the rest of the chattel slaves would be sold to pay off Jefferson's (& Monticello's) debts. Jefferson, though wealthy and exceptionally intelligent, never bothered to BALANCE his financial books and died entailled and insolvent.
@@wbcjr17106 that’s also a possibility. The truth is I believe we may never know aside from maybe the witnesses of Jefferson’s death on whether they grieved over the man or the circumstances around it.
@@wbcjr17106 Stop making them out to be selfish pricks. "Oh, no! Massa done gone and died! Now, I'm going to Louisiana! Woe is me!" A great man had just died after a long illness and his family was there grieving for him. Station matters not in those moments. In those moments, we're all just human together.
Jefferson did try to abolish slavery during the founding and as president ended the Atlantic Slave Trade. He never wanted his slaves but inherited them and would have freed them if not for state law.
@@Nathreim1 true. Plus to be honest I’m still not entirely knowledgeable on the circumstances with Jefferson and sally hemmings, and their relationship
+Graniteheart Yes and he was said to have remarked " No man having obtained the Presidency would congratulate a friend on having obtained it". Thomas Jefferson hated it so much that he put it in his will that it was not to go on his tombstone
Very possibly some of the dudes who did the most good for humanity out of all people throughout history. How anyone can be a student of history and not simultaneously stand in awe before the Bill of Rights to me is unfathomable. There is nothing more precious, fleeting, and fragile than freedom, and I can think of few men who did more to ensure its health than these two. Bravo I say.
It's somewhat strange to think that whilst this was going on, John Quincy Adams was presiding over the 4th of July in Washington. He wouldn't find out about his father's death until 5 days later.
@@Ericb1980 simply put, John Adams died relatively suddenly and news took a long time to travel. The letters informing JQA his father was ill were written and sent on the 3rd of July (from Quincy, Massachusetts) but didn't reach DC until the 8th. JQA still departed DC immediately upon receiving the news but was informed on the way that his father had died days earlier.
Greatest Americans if he was so great when he abolish slavery, I mean George Washington, didn’t do it Thomas Jefferson didn’t do it if any two men in the entire existence of the world could have ended slavery single-handedly without the approval of Congress. It would’ve been Thomas Jefferson or George Washington. Bolton stood up and said that slavery was a moral sin, and that it should’ve been abolished chose to own slaves, and refused to freedom, even though they were for abolishing slavery, even though they knew how how long it was even though they knew then atrocities these men faced. They didn’t do anything, so I bet you probably think Adolf Hitler’s a great man to.
I know the common responses when asked about the best TV series of all are The Sopranos, The Wire (the very best), Succession, Deadwood, Mad Men, Band of Brothers etc, but this one season of John Adams on HBO deserves to be up there amongst the top 5 imo.
No, they would not have. Nothing, including mail, moved faster than a horse could travel in a day. Adams died in Quincy just outside of Boston and Jefferson died at Monticello in Shadwell, just outside Charlottesville, Va. It took up to three weeks just to travel from Boston to Philadelphia. It would presumably take another ten to fourteen days to travel to Charlottesville, so neither family would have learned of the other man’s death for about six weeks, at the earliest.
@@inkyguy I think they meant were they aware they were both dying before then. I'd say no though. While they were friends again at this point, I don't think this ever would have been a topic they talked about.
I’m so sad that Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died at the same day it was Independence Day when they passed away Rest In Peace you besties and Rest In Peace to all the presidents that died in the 1700, 1800, and the 1900s
One of the most bizarre coincidences of all time: Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died on the same day, on July 4, 1826, the 50th birthday of the country.
And then you have James Monroe die exactly 5 years later. It’s actually kind of crazy to think about, especially since Monroe worked with Jefferson.
@@howardbaxter2514 and considering they were 3/4 of the presidents to die
Didn’t Adams and Jefferson also place a bet who would die first? Or perhaps maybe I misread/misinterpreted something. Maybe even read pseudo history. If not I find it extremely fascinating.
Adams son was the president at that time. It’s more bizarre than you think. The founders & their wives have matching birth and death dates. For example, John Adams and Martha Jefferson had the same birthday. October 30. And Jefferson was Vice President to Adams. His wife Abigail Adams birthday and death date matches Doris Dukes. November 22 -(JFK) October 28. (Gate’s birthday) - Heavily invested in Duke U…
@@howardbaxter2514 Not to mention, James Madison came up just six days short, five years after Monroe died. June 28th, 1836, just six days shy of the 60th anniversary of the declaration being signed
John Adams: Thomas Jeffersons survives.
Thomas Jefferson's Ghost: Wrong again, John!
Thomas jeffersons ghost: WRONG THE THIRD TIME, JAMES MADISON
😂😂😂
🤣
@@dylanmartinez9744 Washington waiting for all three of them in heaven "4th times a charm gentlemen!
@@thehunterxxnine1346*james Madison has joined*
Respect to this show for not glamorizing or romanticizing old age. Thomas and John were both extremely sick and miserable when they died, and Giamatti and Dillane portray it very well. They did not die gracefully or peacefully, but with violence and coughing and basically rotting away in their beds.
Washington too. But, as Patton said (I'm paraphrasing), "let us not mourn that such men are dead, rather we should thank God that such men lived".....
At least nowadays we have proper palliative care and painkillers.
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 Death is never pretty, but death in the 18th and 19th centuries sure weren't picnics.
One aspect of this mini series that you do not see very often is aging. Towards the end, the main characters had black and rotting teeth. Not pretty - but appropriate. Actors in historical movies etc are too “pretty”.
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 But those painkillers will become addicted and will die addicted will die addicted prostitutes that save the country. That’s what my doctor said
The timing of Adams and Jefferson's death was so thematically perfect you would think it was made up for the mini-series
Well...
@@toeknee5565It wasn’t made up. They both really died on the same day.
@@Wolf_Dominic i know that. What I intended to convey (and admittedly did so quite poorly) was that I don't think it was as much of a chance coincidence as most people think
@@toeknee5565 why?
it was made up for the matrix
Watched this a few years back and instantly became a huge admirer of John Adams. What a great man and amazing life he lived.
He was kind of a bad president
@@footballdays5548 He was pretty great with foreign policy. Domestically, the Alien and Sedition Acts are what he will be remembered for. His work as a founder outranks his work as a president though.
@@rock4ever302 yup he saved this nation from a war with France that would’ve totally destroyed and fractured us
The only bad thing he did in his life was disown his son, but it was because his son was a drunk loonie (btw I'm talking about Charles Adams, not John Quincy Adams)
@@shimmyashimmya his son was a wreck, despised his father and gave up on his own wife and kids. Sometimes enabling your family does worse than not. It still hurt Adam's, but he made a wise decision in the hopes of changing his son's life for the better. I think Charles was always an "outsider" to the rest of the family and bound to a different more destructive path.
One of the most poetic coincidences in our nation’s history is the death of the two men both on July 4th who introduced partisanship and the peaceful transition of power between political rivals
It was no coincidence
I wonder if one or even both of them thought "Wow, exactly 50 years to the day" if they knew their lives were over.
@@bowlchamps37 Pretty sure they both did
I knew these two just recently read James Monroe also died in July 4 (1831)
James Madison tried to hang on but died a week short, June 28th, ten years later. Nice attempt nonetheless
The lesson of Jefferson and Adams is something people need to be reminded of today with our Politics. Despite our differences and despite what we think we can still be friends and friendships can always be fixed as these two men did.
Not anymore....
Only a democrat or RINO could think so......we're well beyond the pattycake crap of yesterday.
@@johnnyrotten6191 then you’re buying into the lies pushed by MSM. Yeah maybe the chronically online, politicians, and the media sheep hate each other but out in the real world people want to get along.
@@johnnyrotten6191 Compromise is the foundation of our Democracy. Anything else just leads to anarchy and ultimate failure.
@@johnnyrotten6191George Washington was right about political parties, you Republican cringe
I quite agree.
Incredible series. Absolutely incredible. This entire series has awoken a true history nerd inside me.
Agreed SAME
This and band of brothers.
... generation kill.
Agree a fascinating mini series. It made me appreciate my Boston/Cambridge roots so much more.
What’s the name of it?
And my comment was just like yours!
I can almost imagine Adams going to heaven and shouting "Hey, what are you doing here? Now my last words will forever be known as irony!"
And then they laughed
Adams can't catch a break. Jefferson's last act on Earth is to die a few hours before Adams just to gig him one last time by making his last words wrong.
and the argument begins anew lol
@@Cody-ps3wyWell, guess we’ll all find out one day now won’t we.
If there is a heaven or spirit world and Adams made it, I don’t think Jefferson would be there tbh 😅😅😅
Remember when politicians would disagree with each other but also respect each other? Good times.
Respect? Jefferson called Adams a hermaphrodite during his presidential campaign while Adams claimed that Jefferson is quite literally dead and thus unable to run :D
Jefferson? Respecting his opponents? Ok bro 😂
remember it like it yesterday bro
My guy Jefferson and Adam’s hated each other for decades
Even my grade school social studies taught that the political battles in those days were brutal.
These two men were so intertwined in a pivotal moment in history and over their lives. It's beyond fascination. While the events didn't happen exactly as HBO's portrayal, here, the sequence did occur as portrayed. Adams' last words were "Thomas Jefferson survives" but Thomas Jefferson had died 4 to 7 hours before. Adams also said his wife's name and was in-and-out of hallucinations on his death bed. I personally believe that Jefferson, having died, welcomed Adams in his passing. Thus, Adams' statement was accurate and correct.
Beautiful
I believe that too.
That Thomas and Abigail were right there, waiting for him. Arms outstretched. ❤
As a Brit, I loved this miniseries. If only for the start, how everyone is a UK colonist, and by the end you see a bunch of founding fathers try to help kickstart a fledgling nation from 13 colonies. Amazing stuff
I agree! And I am a naturalized citizen who was born in Havana,Cuba in 1956 and came here as a 2 month old baby with my parents on August 2, 1956.
So you have praise for traitors? Interesting.
@@Ao-pj1mc that made me laugh. TBH, these traitors did pretty well without us and out bumbling German regency
Small correction - about a third of the population was from Africa. So not everyone.
@@chriswatson7965 excellent point. Certainly Jefferson liked that third of the population. For various reasons
John Adams’s final words:
“Thomas Jefferson survives.”
Unbeknownst to him, Jefferson actually died just a few hours before Adams did! 😳
Maybe that’s because Thomas Jefferson was standing there greeting him.
@@pendragonshall
Sure! 😂 We’ll just go with that!
Then they both pop in front of St Peter like "Dafuq?!?"
@@michaelt3779 LOL I don't think they'd say that but that's funny
Hopefully Jefferson is in 🔥
As kids we all worshipped Jefferson. As men we all relate and appreciate John Adam’s
Because that’s man we found out that this guy was a complete other fraud, a hypocrite he knew slavery was a moral sin, and always against it, but he owned slaves. He also took out a piece that would have a abolish slavery in the declaration of independence so as men, we understand a man who was nothing more than just BS.
Nah
@@WestlehSeyweld You’ll grow up eventually
@@alessiodelcastillo1613I relate to Jefferson more. Your opinion seems entirely based on an HBO series rather than through actual study of the men.
Nah. I've ALWAYS admired Adams between the 2, and it's not even close.
I wish I could go back in time and meet our forefathers. It would be amazing.
Britain is a lovable nato but not russia china india or many country history or uncommon
They would show how proud they are defeating Indians and making money with slaves
I don´t think so: no antibiotics, no blood tests, no treatments, no X-ray, no MRI, no painkillers, no hygiene.
@@johannessanmiguel It would be a brief visit then I'd come back.
They probably wouldn't talk to you since you were not among the gentry. Of course if you graduated undergrad probably better educated than any of them
RIP John Adams (October 30, 1735 - July 4, 1826), aged 90
And
RIP Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 - July 4, 1826), aged 83
You both will be remembered as legends.
To live past 80 in those times was rare.
@@paulboegel8009 Not so rare for non laborers, the life expectancy was greatly lowered due to women dying in childbirth and men dying from work related illnesses. Look at Kings of earlier centuries in Europe, unless they died by the sword they lived pretty long
@@TheImapotato
The average life expectancy was about 47 years.
@@paulboegel8009 I just explained why
@@TheImapotato
Infant mortality was the leading cause of the average age of life expectancy to be lower.
Rich people died young in the 18th and 19th centuries. Good genes had a lot more to do with it , since medicine in those days was almost non-existent. A bacterial infection was pretty much a death sentence .
Both actors did a GREAT job portraying Adam's and Jefferson!
Wow the odds of both men dying on that day is eye opening.
Especially since they help facilitate the meaning of that date
I feel like they were both holding onto life just to see the 4th one last time.
Speaking of eye opening, they died with their eyes open 👀
its just the matrix
… I watched this scene once before… To my surprise, no death scene has ever brought me closer to crying than this one. I’ve seen many death scenes, but for some reason I found this one the most emotional.
I wasn't born in the 1820s but I'm sure this death sent shockwaves to everyone. Adams and Jefferson gave us America and their spirits still remain forever
you weren't born in the 1820s?
@@blobcity3591 1990's is where I came from, but I learned through history in school.
@@blobcity3591I was
@@blobcity3591 no way 😳
Two great friends dying on the same day is a freaky coincidence in US History. Both becoming friends when serving in the Continental Congress and when they were in Europe, rivals when they found themselves working in two different parties and friends again after Jefferson concluded his presidency.
I loved visiting Jefferson’s home in Charlottesville. Upstairs was a bedroom that was specifically for John when he visited if I remember correctly. The view from that mountain is breathtaking. I have to say it woke something up in me that I’d never felt. A sense of patriotism. I then became a history buff. I was 55.
How'd the slave quarters make you feel? Patriotic?
Little Known Fact: Adams and Jefferson died on John Quincy’s son John II’s birthday. Other examples are his daughter Louisa dying at one year old on his brother Thomas’s 40th and even shares a birthday with his stillborn sister, Elizabeth.
John Adams: What are you doing here?
Thomas Jefferson: no, you, what are YOU doing here?
I bet they argue about it every year on their deathday
It really gets me that he thinks his grandson is John Quincy and he reaches for his hand saying, “help me child… help me child.” I cannot imagine how much that would stick to his memory. The once great and loud mouthed president reduced to a delusional and hallucinatory old man reaching for his hand.
John Quincy was the guy holding his hand? but yet looks young, yet he died in the 1840s at age 80 i think? if he looks young here how could he have been 80 in the 1840s?
No, that was his other son John Quincy Adams was the current president of the United States, and I believe that he couldn’t make it to his fathers house at the time of his funeral and his death and I believe it definitely hurt him because well remember this was the early 1800s and it would’ve taken a long time to go from DC to Massachusetts and I’m pretty sure he didn’t even get the news until like a couple weeks later
Yes he calls him "Johnny" right before that. Like a memory of his son when he was small.
Rare for people to live that long back then.
Certainly was rare, considering all the diseases
Actually people could live long back then. The only reason why the average lifespan was shorter was because so many people died as children.
The Founding Fathers who fought hard to defend America's independence and it doesn't matter if you are a Liberal or a Conservative, we just need to bring love and peace to our country without feeling oppressed from each other.
Yes! ❤
@@aprilleerose Follow God and Jesus, he will show you the way.
Unfortunately the democrats despise the founding fathers and the foundation of what the USA represents.
Monroe passed on the fourth. So for a while from 1831 (Monroe's death), until Madison's passing, 3 of 4 deceased presidents passed on 7/4.
But Washington died in 1799, and not on July 4th. So it would’ve been 3 out of 5 right?
@@macree01 my mistake, yes thank you for talking a year to glean through the comments to correct me.
Madison could’ve taken stimulants to prolong his life until then, but decided not to.
UNDOUBTEDLY THIS IS THE GREATEST PIECE OF TELEVISION EITHER ON NETWORK OR CABLE IN HISTORY. THE ACTING IS SO SUPERB I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.. THE STORYLINE IS MAGNIFICENT AND THE DIRECTION IS IMPECCABLE ALMOST A PERFECT PIECE OF MOVIE OR SERIES.
as a man from england i have great respect for these men they did what was right and did some thing good
It’s sad that you have so many people today who hate these two men, even Adams because they are the “epitome of the status quo”. It’s ingratitude to think that way because unlike our politicians today, guys like Adams actually consider governing to be a stressful chore rather than a power addiction.
What are you talking about
@@brianpaulbrundage If you’re talking about my self-responses, ignore. I was just testing something since YT likes to be censorious.
I know what you mean.
No one hates anyone people hate white washing and the sanctification of early American historical figures . Americas history is not to be worshipped but learned from
Not alot of point in hating historical figures. You'd do as well to hate the villains at a wrestling show. I don't take people like that seriously and neither should anyone else.
As for "ingratitude", welcome to humanity. Dogs are grateful, human beings mercenary.
I'll always remember and honor these men no matter what. I don't give a damn if I'm the last American standing to do it. I'm grateful for what they created. 🇺🇸
So let me guess you probably stand with Adolf Hitler no to rape you do realize this man owned slaves and old women and children right I mean you do realize that now let me tell you how stupid you really sound. This man said slavery was a moral sin, and it need to be abolished. I turned around as one of the mole, vicious slaveowners. He cheated on his wife what a slave, and refused to free his slaves. He wrote the Declaration of Independence from Thomas Paine‘s book common sense and took out a very piece of the Declaration of Independence. That would have ultimately abolish slavery now, why do you are the man and grateful for a man that could have ended slavery could have in the tournament in torture for millions of people, but chose not to you probably love Adolf Hitler to you. Democrats are all the same.
Amazing these 2 lived into their 80s and 90s when the life expectancy at the time was like 45 years old
that was mainly due to infant mortality. most people if you got out of child hood and birth would be expected to live into their 70s,
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It wasn't like the European Middle Ages where the average person lived to like 30 people could already grow old just like us but the infant mortality rates skewed the data
@@davidbagley1783 my man decided to leak his entire family's security questions
@@davidbagley1783who gives a flying fuxk
My take on his dying words is since Jefferson was a fair deal younger Adams assumed he would outlive him.
I assumed also it was their competitive streak against each other
It's the other way around. Ben Franklin is the older one, by 29 years.
@@Gafferman Tis Adams and Jefferson we're considering.
@@mortalclown3812 my brain broke, clearly. 😂
According to records or was it scientist said that Thomas Jefferson died 4 hours before John Addams.
Of the first twelve presidents, Adams (and his son) were the only two who never owned slaves. Adams, along with Hamilton was one of only two of the core Founding Fathers who never owned slaves.
Yup the Adams were notorious for being among the earliest supporters of abolitionism, condemning the practice of slavery and Quincy’s involvement in the Amistad case
Monroe later freed his slaves and moved to New York City during the last few years of his life.
To Jefferson and Washington's credit they wanted to free them but were prohibited by law. Jefferson inherited his and worked to abolish slavery even ending the Atlantic Slave Trade. Washington paid his slaves and set up retirement for them on his farm.
I don’t think Ben Franklin did either.
@@NotMyWar Franklin actually owned 2 slaves, George and King. They worked as his personal slaves. He also ran ads in his newspaper for the sale of slaves and contracts for indentured laborers. It wasn't until 1763 that his attitudes towards Africans began to change (he grew up believing Africans were inferior to whites in almost every way) - when he visited a school where young African children were taught. His hatred of the British (who he saw as wanting to "enslave" the American colonies) also made him think about his attitude towards slavery in general.
John Adams: “Thomas Jefferson survives”
Thomas Jefferson hours before: NUH UH
It sad to see two of our founding fathers of American constitution in this manner 😭. God bless America and its glory 💙❤️⚪
"our"? Bruh you're indian
@@arbazalam373 so? When I consider myself as an American why r u interfering
@@Gaurav_Sharma3112 lmao okay let's pretend then
@@arbazalam373 lol
@@arbazalam373 America is more of an idea than a nationality... the idea that people can govern themselves with very little government interference. Well, history shows us that after a period of relative freedom people start to feel like they want the government to control life and slow it down. In my opinion its stupid but hey, what can I do against the will of 200-250mil Americans who either didnt vote or voted for massive government expansion (+ another 75mil that voted in favor of slow government expansion). That is, if I was even a US citizen which unfortunately Im not.
It's nice that Ken Burns brought Paul back to play Adams in his Ben Franklin miniseries.😊😊
These two men were simply amazing. Their passion for their ideals shaped the modern world, and they showed that two men completely different ideological could respect one another and be dear friends
The way Jefferson is portrayed in the film, I didn't see much "respect" for Adams. In real life, who knows? What is portrayed in the film is that Jefferson was quite brutal to Adams back in the day. Smooth... but brutal. Adams never could seem to understand why. Jefferson was cerebral, and clearly liked a good argument. Adams could give a good one back.
More than just a TV series, the book John Adams, written by David McCullough, was one of two he wrote that won the Pulitzer Prize. The other was 1776. He will always be remembered as a writer whose histories were not only accurate, but they were as engaging as any novel.
Truman too.
John Adams: "Thomas Jefferson survives".
Thomas Jefferson: "Not anymore".
It is of the utmost mercy that these men never saw how far their nation has fallen.
They would be mortified by the extreme right for sure
@@katdeluxy9608 you mean left.
@@williamwinder5011 you mean both
There is a statement John Adams made about America should it fall away from what he helped create. After everything he and so many others sacrificed to build this nation if it should fall away because of our own hubris he said "I'll repent in heaven for having ever created it".
@@katdeluxy9608 And the extreme left. Who are you kidding? Gender theory? You think they’d like that? Get real.
Mr. Adams is a blessing to our country. Rest in peace, Mr President. Your country loves you!
One of the best series HBO has done!
Agree.
John: Thomas Jefferson survives.
Thomas: *in the grave*
Actually much people think he died before adams but one of Thomas Jefferson's child said adamas died at 4:32 pm hours while jefferson died at 6:56 pm
@@holad7641 do you have a source though
Both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson lived incredibly long lives for their day and age. Few people back then lived to 70, much into their 80s and 90s.
A miracle for anyone to live to that age in the era of rampant disease and no antibiotics.
They also were stronger and had stronger immune systems
It's easier when you are rich and privileged.
ジョンアダムズの90才は当時の世界最高齢みたいだね。それまでは源頼義の89才が過去最高齢でした
@@anthonyesposito7I mean did the founding fathers not deserve that after birthing this nation?
@@Walker-ow7vjif you want to make excuses for those that knowingly exploited others for their own personal gain because they you have a soft spot for the founders and or some notion of American exceptionalism than go right ahead. I won't do that.
When I first watched this, I quickly reacted it me getting sad. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, you will always be safe in heaven with the rest of your family.🇺🇸✝️😇🥺
I wonder how many people on their death beds mutter something incomprehensible, and their last thought before they blink out is "Damn, those were some smooth last words-"
A tear struck down my eye when it was Jefferson ‘s death. He was my favourite president and he always will be
My wife’s class she teaches visited DC for a trip and I got to chaperone. TJ is one of my favorites as well, and when we got to his memorial, and how it showed all he’d done, I cried. He was an amazing human. He was human but his brilliance, his gift for words, and his politics still stick with me to this day. Love Franklin, Mr Washington, and Adam’s even though his politics are different than mine, but Jefferson was always who captured my ideals and my politic
God bless our Founding Fathers. They were so wise and sacrificed so much. Not only did we benefit , the whole world benefited.
Not the world please... only the corrupted and the rich
@@locgama3630 Yes , the oligarchs have infiltrated and bought every institution of power or influence.
Weren’t they slave owners? Lol
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 Unfortunately , slavery was an excepted practice then. Virtually every culture had this practice at one time or another. Besides , it is difficult to transpose social issues out of context.
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 Adams wasn't
It’s so bizarre how Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both died on the same day. I love both of those presidents!
They both died 195 years ago.
That's like 2 full lifetimes ago, it's crazy how close it is yet so distant.
More realistically If people have children in their early 30s that's 6 generation ago. Imagine your grandfather's grand-grandfather lived at the same time than those man.
It was so long ago, yet it was just yesterday when you compare it to the time of Julius Caesar. Caesar was just yesterday compared to the time of the ancient Egyptians who were just yesterday compared to the dawn of humanity which was just yesterday compared to the formation of the earth which was just yesterday compared to the formation of the universe.
@@djkm9558 oh wow a lot happened yesterday, guess I missed it.
@@joshuaizly5502😂
Here lies John Adams, who wholeheartedly kept our new nation at peace with France in the year 1800. Rest In Peace
Such great performances in an outstanding mini series.
John Quincy Adams Watching His Dad
More Men like these are needed today!
What race is meant to own people yeah we’ll see how that goes over you. Democrats are exactly the same. Stupid dumb and idiot.
Men like this can't get elected.
Please don’t die Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, please I will miss you😢😢
3:07 John Adam says Thomas Jefferson survives unaware that Jefferson had died earlier in the day
I loved this mini series. I learned a lot. This scene did surprised me. I had no idea!
They both died on this day in 1826. RIP
John Adams was 90 years old
And Jefferson was 83 years old
They were both pretty old.
@@ashleybrown5382 my great grandma outlived Jefferson’s age she was able to make it to 84 and is still alive today
Rest In Peace to Our US Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson who died in the same day on July 4 1826. Rest In Peace To 2nd President John Adams and 3rd President Thomas Jefferson Rest in America
Damn it still brings tears to my eyes
Well goodbye Mr Addams we will see you in heaven 🙏 ❤️ 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
And Mr. Jefferson.
R.I.P John Adams (1735-1826)
Poor Thomas and John 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This was such a good mini series. I first watched it on HBO. But have seen it again. Excellent
Still one of the craziest things in history that they both died on the same day and it was July 4.
And exactly 50 years after the Declaration of Independence was signed.
@@bunnybird9342 you’re confusing that with the constitution lmao
@@Mendoza1414 no I did not
For all their flaws, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were giants. It is such Providence that they came together at the same time, and built what they built together.
The United States will soon be 250 years old, and made into another 250 years after that, and another and another!
1:28 John Adam says help me child help me!
getting sick back in the day always seems to be absolutely terrifying.
2:27 even his own slaves was weeping at him. Shows you how loved he was at the time
It may only have meant that, aside from the provisions made for Sally and her immediate family, that they knew the rest of the chattel slaves would be sold to pay off Jefferson's (& Monticello's) debts. Jefferson, though wealthy and exceptionally intelligent, never bothered to BALANCE his financial books and died entailled and insolvent.
@@wbcjr17106 that’s also a possibility. The truth is I believe we may never know aside from maybe the witnesses of Jefferson’s death on whether they grieved over the man or the circumstances around it.
@@wbcjr17106 Stop making them out to be selfish pricks. "Oh, no! Massa done gone and died! Now, I'm going to Louisiana! Woe is me!"
A great man had just died after a long illness and his family was there grieving for him. Station matters not in those moments. In those moments, we're all just human together.
Jefferson did try to abolish slavery during the founding and as president ended the Atlantic Slave Trade. He never wanted his slaves but inherited them and would have freed them if not for state law.
@@Nathreim1 true. Plus to be honest I’m still not entirely knowledgeable on the circumstances with Jefferson and sally hemmings, and their relationship
Adams died a year after his son assumed his old job. At least he got to see that happen
He was too sick to attend the Inauguration.
+Graniteheart Yes and he was said to have remarked " No man having obtained the Presidency would congratulate a friend on having obtained it". Thomas Jefferson hated it so much that he put it in his will that it was not to go on his tombstone
Very possibly some of the dudes who did the most good for humanity out of all people throughout history. How anyone can be a student of history and not simultaneously stand in awe before the Bill of Rights to me is unfathomable. There is nothing more precious, fleeting, and fragile than freedom, and I can think of few men who did more to ensure its health than these two. Bravo I say.
The description says John is 91, but he was actually 90.
God bless them
Yep, they were true, honest brothers. Died together, signed a draft together creating a blessed nation. May God bless their souls for eternity.
God taking them both at the same time. They were only lent to us for a few short moments . Made me cry.
Both were amazing founding fathers.
3:05 John Adam's Last Words
“Thomas Jefferson survives!”
If this wasn’t real, people’d say it’s cheesy and unrealistic
Rip John Adam's and Thomas Jefferson
It's somewhat strange to think that whilst this was going on, John Quincy Adams was presiding over the 4th of July in Washington. He wouldn't find out about his father's death until 5 days later.
It’s surprising that he wasn’t at his dad’s side
@@Ericb1980 simply put, John Adams died relatively suddenly and news took a long time to travel. The letters informing JQA his father was ill were written and sent on the 3rd of July (from Quincy, Massachusetts) but didn't reach DC until the 8th. JQA still departed DC immediately upon receiving the news but was informed on the way that his father had died days earlier.
The many Greatest Americans who have ever lived 🇺🇸
Greatest Americans if he was so great when he abolish slavery, I mean George Washington, didn’t do it Thomas Jefferson didn’t do it if any two men in the entire existence of the world could have ended slavery single-handedly without the approval of Congress. It would’ve been Thomas Jefferson or George Washington. Bolton stood up and said that slavery was a moral sin, and that it should’ve been abolished chose to own slaves, and refused to freedom, even though they were for abolishing slavery, even though they knew how how long it was even though they knew then atrocities these men faced. They didn’t do anything, so I bet you probably think Adolf Hitler’s a great man to.
@@zacksaunders9411 picky, picky, pick 😑
@@atompunk5575 idol worshiper
I almost cried at the end
Thankfully made amends and became friends again here and world to come forever
Happy July 4th and R.I.P to two great patriots
James Monroe too who died 5 years later. Years later Calvin Coolidge was born on their deathdays
I know the common responses when asked about the best TV series of all are The Sopranos, The Wire (the very best), Succession, Deadwood, Mad Men, Band of Brothers etc, but this one season of John Adams on HBO deserves to be up there amongst the top 5 imo.
I always wondered if they were aware that they were both dying or if they didn't know that the other one was dying too
No, they would not have. Nothing, including mail, moved faster than a horse could travel in a day. Adams died in Quincy just outside of Boston and Jefferson died at Monticello in Shadwell, just outside Charlottesville, Va. It took up to three weeks just to travel from Boston to Philadelphia. It would presumably take another ten to fourteen days to travel to Charlottesville, so neither family would have learned of the other man’s death for about six weeks, at the earliest.
@@inkyguy I think they meant were they aware they were both dying before then. I'd say no though. While they were friends again at this point, I don't think this ever would have been a topic they talked about.
I’m so sad that Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died at the same day it was Independence Day when they passed away Rest In Peace you besties and Rest In Peace to all the presidents that died in the 1700, 1800, and the 1900s
Nah I would say that some of them definitely do not deserve to rest in peace (I'm not talking about Adams or Jefferson btw)
I own the John Adam's DVD series. Brilliantly done and historically accurate. ❤😊
two truly great men...
What a powerful and real scene!
If someone were to have written this, no one would believe it.
How you record that when 1800s have no internet
It's a TV Show.
I know i am a different account. Mine comment about that was stupid... I was very stupid back then.
Thank you fathers for giving the world the true meaning of freedom. Rest and be with your loved ones in paradise.
2:57 "Thomas Jefferson survives"...John Adams didn't know that he had lived a few hours longer than Jefferson.
Amazing series
I just realized Thomas Jefferson also plays Stannis Baratheon…
Far fewer people realised that than I was expecting