The Philadelphia Experiment: The Cloaked Ship that Never Was
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2022
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Douglas Adams in the Hitchhikers Guide series says that the most effective cloaking device known to mankind is the "S.E.P." ( Somebody Else's Problem).
Kinda makes you wonder about when they painted desert vehicles pink. Maybe they found a copy of adams via time warp, and tried a first attempt
@@blackc1479 Mountbatten Pink worked best around dawn and dusk, blending in to the sunrise or sunset. Its downside is that it makes things stand out very well during the light of full day - which made it less than ideal for the naval purpose it was originally designed for. For the SAS Pink Panther raids, Mountbatten Pink was a good choice because they attacked at dusk and fled under the cover of night. The airfield crews they were attacking reportedly didn't even notice them until the SAS drivers opened up with their machine guns.
To me, the weirdest form of camouflage has always been Dazzle camouflage, another naval pattern used largely in WWI to mess with one's ability to assess another ship's range, speed and heading, thus messing with a ship's ability to target the vessel. It had mixed results depending on the patterns, and they never really narrowed in on what made it work when it did work. It's proven less effective as the battlefield grew more sophisticated - aircraft to report positions from above (or just dive bomb and drop a bomb through its deck), radar, sonar, etc all lack the incredible subjectivity of a seaman with a telescope standing on the deck of an attacking battleship.
This happened to me the other day, I lit up a blunt and soon I was surrounded by a green fog... 3 hours later I woke up in a different room, which I was later told was "the kitchen" and ALL around me were empty food boxes and my right hand was fused to a can of Pringles. When I looked up there was even a strange note on the fridge in those magnetic letters, which read "GRIUVEFT MKCPO". I know that means something but I can't figure it out. What a trip man!
this has happened to me multiple times. that green fog…
Have you let the green frog tell you his tales of wisdom? Honestly worth it, also he’s a great roller
This is the cringiest thing I’ve read today
@@ALCblackout24HDbut weed is cool though
@@oldkingcrow777 I think I replied to the wrong comment lol
The navy was working on demagnetizing the hull to keep magnetic mines away as Katy has said. You wrapped wiring around hull, run a current through it, and the ship is demagnetized. That is all. From 1940 onwards the hulls of most large British ships were fitted with degaussing cables well before the Philadelphia Experiment.
that's like what you'd do on an old CRT monitor right? Then you drag your hand across the screen and shock your friend with all the static like Zeus
Ok
The Philadelphia Experiment with Michael Pare' and Nancy Allen (1984) was worth the watch, even if the story was entirely science fiction.
Just fiction. There was no science there.
I wonder did Aspen know they'd find themself as part of a conspiracy theory involving Simon locking his employees in his basement while he conquers youtube with an army of clones?
Sunday? Are they gonna do to her? Make her try the rat wine maybe?
Perhaps that's why they applied? :)
Just going to be real with you, simon's mind, yes... his body, not so much.
Maybe we can put simon's mind inside john Hamm's body? Yeah let's do that!
Kidding, love you Simon!
the beatings of aspen will continue until moral improves
Whistler corps is the new super power
Nobody in their sane mind would say "nah, I don't need to hear about the Montauk Project". Of course we need to hear your take on it, Katie, we absolutely do. And I hope the episode is already recorded and just waiting it's turn.
It isn’t 😆 but I’ll add it to the list!
@@katywatson4940 definitely do, please, I am sucker for your writing.
Montauk!
Stranger things is based on the Montauk project
check out coast to coast with art bell/george noorey. the did an interview with a persson from the montok experiment
"time travel I feel it is super compelling" he said trying to dig himself out of being yelled at by Katie 🤣🤣🤣
Eldridge and Eldritch are completely different words. Eldridge is a normal and relatively common surname with no relation to the word Eldritch. Maybe all the people misspelling the ship name as USS Eldritch are having a Freudian slip.
Basic English...I appoint you, using my authority as some bloke on TH-cam, to the endless task of teaching English to Americans. Tough job, but you seem up to it. Easiest way is to just reference Lovecraft (ironically he was a literate American) who was fond of the term 'eldritch'.
The tentacles get in the way of the keyboard.
Or in this case a Freudian ship... 😉
@@owenshebbeare2999 Yeah...like there are no British citizens with bad teeth who also can't spell...there's literally nothing the British sense of inferiority can't latch onto in order to make themselves feel better. What's next? The British invented air...?
It really is sad, when ppls best "proof" of an insane conspiracy theory, is their failure at friggin spelling. Like, getting the spelling of the ships name is the absolute lowest bar to clear and soooooo easy to find.
The Montauk Project sounds interesting, love to watch an episode about it
It’s a mix of MK Ulta and this. The place where it takes place is actually beautiful. I’ve been to weddings on the bluff overlooking the ocean there
let's do it!
Well, you guys...
Yes plzzzz
Yesyesyes.. very interesting.. and Simon would do an episode even more interesting..👏🏼☺️
Yes!!! You’ve got my vote!
Meredith is a gender-neutral Welsh name. While in recent decades it has been considered more of a girl's name prior to the 1950s, it was more frequently used for boys.
It's also been seen as a surname... as in actor Burgess Meredith.
@@carmencruz8731 Oh yes I had forgotten him.
Meredith is a Welsh name that was historically given to men, but more recently became far more common for women. On the show Stargate, and Stargate Atlantis the character Dr. Rodney McKay's real first name was Meredith. Something he kept secret but his sister revealed it as she liked to call him "mere"
1 "The Philadelphia Experiment" was a decent enough movie. Not great, not bad, fairly entertaining. Not "Back to the Future" good, but worth a look.
2 Simon "No one went to make something awesome and made something even more awesome." Seriously, bro? Super glue (cheap, clear, acrylic glass). Silly Putty (cheap synthetic rubber). Slinky (machine springs). It totally happens!
Post-It Notes were a case of someone inventing something with no use, in this case a very weak adhesive which leaves no residue, and someone else coming along and finding a use for it.
The 1st few minutes of the movie was interesting, pity the rest of the movie was 2 people running away from the people that were trying to help them
Lol, I think you and Simon/ me have a very different opinions on what's amazing and what's not.
Isn't the world grand! An English bloke in Prague first tangent is about Philly Cream Cheese with chocolate. LoL. Cheers.
The present is the best
Always
Always
If an object the size of a ship blinked out of existence in Philadelphia and appeared suddenly in Virginia, wouldn't you get a massive implosion at the point of departure (as air rushed in to fill the space where the ship had been) plus a matching explosion at the point of arrival as the ship instantly displaced both air and seawater as it materialised? (Plus, you'd get a second implosion/explosion pair when the ship returned)
The amount of money thrown at that issue after we figured out how to use a transporter across several hundred miles would solve explosiom/implosion issues. Like making a vacuumed chamber on both ends ---
Yes.
Maybe not as the mass that moved had to displace what was where it was going so the entire piece of reality exchanged places in time and space. Who knows with this experimental technology, eh? 🙂
@@monkeybarmonkeyman Except there wasn't any experimental technology. This never happened.
Kudos. That's a very good question. But there is always a certain amount of brain parking involved in most of these types of ideas (especially those time travel types). As far as your question about the problems with the loss of matter causing an implosion and extra matter causing an explosion, perhaps the matter at the destination that was in the way of the ship - slipped BACK through and filled the void in the place where it had been. I cannot provide any scientific reason for that, but a sci-fi writer could. It solves the problem.
When Doc Brown sent Einstein one minute into the future, he did not account for the movement of Earth through space. It's rotating on its axis, revolving around the Sun, which, with all of its planets, is revolving around the center of the galaxy, is also moving through Intergalactic space. I call Earth's path s "corkscrew trajectory". All time travel shows neglect this problem. They all pretend Earth is stationary, or that anything traveling through time automatically stays with Earth in its "corkscrew trajectory". And the problem is much worse when Marty McFly was traveling 30 years backwards and forwards through time.
Just thought I'd throw this in, for some reason.
This is one of my favourite conspiracy theories. Never let a good story get in the way of the facts.
I can see the scientists now, "Let's not make a small device and test with mice or insects, no let's use a whole ship full of sailors instead".
I mean, is there a whole ship full of sailors on offer?
Facts aside, let’s examine that. Let’s not make an experimental vaccine and test it on mice, no let’s just test it on the worlds population.
Think it doesn’t happen? You have an unreal trust in your government. I was stationed in Korea. The only purpose of the base was to be the first targeted by North Korean jets so jets in southern South Korea had time to take off. Our base had less than 3 minutes to kiss our asses goodbye.
Sometimes sacrifices must be made and a soldier is government property. Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.
They did test it without humans first, and it worked. That's why they tested it again with humans, to see the affects on the human body, because the ship would need people to navigate it for potential missions/warfare.
7:45, It's the Pauli Exclusion Principle. Two fermions (quarks, electrons) can't occupy the same place unless they have opposite spin directions. It conserves energy.
...wonder why no one's seemed to have taken into account, the instantaneous displacement of the many, many tons of water from a teleporting ship, or the sudden absence of that displacement. 🤔
Not to mention, even if cloaking the ship had been a thing, how would they mask the displacement of the water? Wouldn't you be able to see an absolutely massive hole in the water moving around and creating a bow shock/wake? 😄
That's a damn good point
Shhh, stop using logic, it will confuse the tin foil hat crowd (which according to a video I saw somewhere on TH-cam, foil would actually make things worse)
@@maxdanielj Simon did a video about tin foil hats on another channel of his. That may have been where you saw it.
Smoke and sound from the engines too.
Hey! This is the internet, we'll have no rationality here, thank you very much. XD
I love the fact that you look and talk like a doctor, but you still get down and speak like you are from the street, so down to earth and bring humor and educational awesomness to your videos
Simon needs to do an episode debunking hie assertion that accidental inventions don't happen, Velcro, Sticky notes, super glue to name but three
Zips as well and glass
I remember seeing this on Sightings as a kid, but they conveniently left out that the guy who was one of the two sailors didn't remember it happening until he saw the movie. I remember a show having the line 'That's like me watching Superman and remembering Marlon Brando's my dad.'
Here's what actually happened.
A guy or a few who served on the Eldridge , probably with the degaussing tech, went to a bar and told some Coast Guard blokes about their fancy, invisible to mines' tech. With more and more booze, the claimes became bolder and bolder. Who could prove them wrong? This was top secret stuff only they knew about.
Allan might have been one of the listeners. Smart enough to understand that they did actually talk about real physics at times. Gullible enough to want to believe their hushed claims, as outlandish as they might have gotten. And when it had festeres long enough within his head, he came to believe.
It may have been even simpler. Some talks among sailors about a tech that made a ship invisible to mines could circle and the mines were ommitted. The rumor spread as a tale to be told over a beer. Ship's name stuck, but details were added and the thing transformed into the myth. Allan heard it and went from there.
Source: Been in the Navy. We did this to people all the time. We did it to Army soldiers. Wie did it to Airforce people. We did it to civilians. We did it to people from other Navies. Heck, we did it to new recruits.
Believe me when I tell you that this story isn't the most hilarious one I heard. Some people would believe it all.
I Greek military jargon is called radio arvila ( radio boot) it's like the " broken telephone" game but you do it on purpose the more ridiculous the story is, the better
Added bonus if you can make people believe it
They wouldn't let me in, my back grew screwed up, had to wear a huge ugly metal back brace all thru school. But my grandfather was a radio operator on a submarine in WW2, and both my cousins served. I was younger and they used to feed me so much BS. Wild stories about secret missions my grandfather did, and grandpa would go with it, just to see my reaction. Your entire theory of what really happened feels like the environment I grew up in,
I was at a bar and two young army cadets tried to tell me that the Earth really WAS flat, and engaged me for several hours on the topic before admitting they were just fcn with me and then threatened to kick my ass for some reason. Oh, speaking of things I've heard from ex-military in this case, the triangle UFOs are TR-3Bs and use an anti-grav drive based on, you guessed it, high powered EM servos. Although, if they were experimental, wouldn't they be designed X-3Bs? Now NASA's looking into it, wouldn't it be funny if the Space Force came out and said, uhm, don't waste yr time, it's US!
@@ryurc3033 Wait, so is it possible that ALL of the supposed UFO sighting being spoken of as if they're real might not be anything more than an elaborate JOKE?
My own gut theory is some complete fucking yokel heard the navy guys talking about the degaussing, and totally had the take away the ship was “invisible”.
I do not claim any knowledge of ONR but I was a submariner and we would ABSOLUTELY burn off copies of something hysterical like that. You are spot on Simon. We had a green log book full of some of the funniest/stupidest things said on watch on the ship over the years.
There's also The Final Countdown movie from 1980. It had Martin Sheen and Kirk Douglass. I remember seeing that as an 11 year old boy. That movie blew my mind on the same level as Star Blazers. The Warp Drive of the Space Ship Yamato was reminiscent of the warp of the S.S. Eldridge. My mind was really blown away when years later I saw Event Horizon with Laurence Fishburne, Sam Neill. If you carefully watch how the air moves around a jet during a "sonic boom", the strange patterns are ALSO reminiscent of the Invisibility of the Predators.
I met Carl in the early 90s. He was living in a retirement home in Greeley, CO. He was quite convincing and he told me a story about how people were freaking out about Einstein dining in the galley eating non-kosher food. It was the most surreal conversation I have ever had.
Legend has it that Einstein LOVED watching people's reactions to him doing that!
Actually, Galvanized Rubber is an example of somebody messing up and inventing something more awesome. The guy who invented rubber was trying to create a better epoxy/glue product. He got the mixture wrong and we have a better material from it
That being said, the biggest notion countering it, is we don't actually have any technical appliances as a side effect of this project. Like, from going to space we go Tang out of that matter. If this happened, we'd have gotten technological applications we can see in day to day life
Hell, even Project Acoustic Kitty has shown its own influence on technology we have around today
Tang was not invented by nasa. It was simply sold to them when they said they needed astronaut food.
I believe that Coca-Cola was also invented accidentally. The person was trying to make a medicine of some sort
Serendipity. (Not necessarily the invention of something better, but happening on something good by chance.)
Do you mean *vulcanized* rubber? The process of hardening rubber by heating it? Because Charles Goodyear invented *that* by accident when some rubber fell into a fire or a really hot pan or something. *that* is a definite thing, whereas I have never heard of *galvanized* rubber. He *was* using sulfur and other chemicals at the time, but they turned out to have nothing to do with the hardening process (though he didn't know that at the time).
Well sure, you ever degaussed a 90's era flat screen CRT monitor before? I swear to God, it goes to another dimension and back in in the process clears up your picture.
“No one in real life is like we tried to make something incredible and ended up making something more incredible.”
Post-it notes? Sparkling wine?
Silly putty was wallpaper cleaner
The first time I heard about the Philadelphia Experiment was in the mid 1970's, as told to us by a professor of electrical engineering. What astonished me was that he seemed to think the the story true.
What astonishes me is that anyone could possibly believe this bunk.
@@proto-geek248My 9th grade science teacher told the class this story it was 1973. Didn’t think the guy was a joker but after trying to chase his story down in my parents encyclopedias I came to think he’s was just punking us, after seeing so many people falling for this I’m not so sure he was.
@@Jcs57 it's an old & popular conspiracy theory. He probably believed it.
It's true.
Time was manipulated. Chaos ensued.
one of the most amazing of top secret Black Projects, which led to the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment / The USS Eldridge. (The Rainbow Project) ... the forerunner to today's stealth technology.
Some background:
Serious work began in the 1930's at the University of Chicago, shortly later, to be joined by Nicola Tesla. The invisibility project was transferred in 1933 to the newly created prestigious Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University, where Einstein and John Von Neumann were illustrious members.
In 1936, the project expanded, and Tesla was made head of the group. Partial invisibility was achieved before the end of that year. By 1941, Tesla had the full confidence of US President FDR to proceed with an astonishing experiment and secretive work continued with the US Navy. Brilliant mathematician and scientist John von Neumann was named director of the project in 1942, until he was summoned to work on the atomic bomb (the Manhattan Project), shortly after the 1943 "experiment" occurred ... What started out as a technology "experiment" intended to make a Navy ship undetectable by radar, ended up making the ship totally invisible, as it left the space-time continuum, only to reappear hundreds of miles away (and 10 minutes earlier in time!). Successful from a material standpoint, but not so, for the people involved.
One excellent source for information:
"The Montauk Project, Experiments in Time", by Preston B. Nichols. There are many other sources on the subject now. Still classified by US Govt / Pentagon.
Separately, what follows, is an excerpt I copied from a pdf recently obtained. A remarkable team was assembled at that time, just prior to the Manhattan Project, who worked on invisibility, time warping, and time travel, in attempts to gain advantage towards the end of WW2.
"THE “PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT” by
Anonymous, Ph.d’s. * " (pdf):
"It has been asserted that the initial Philadelphia Experiment took place "sometime between July 20th and August 20, 1943." (8) Simply put: in the experiment(s) a big coil of wire was wrapped around a large ship, the ship became invisible in a foggy green mist, and a lot of people on board were hurt. (Some thought they went through a rip in the fabric of the space-time continuum, were teleported from the Philadelphia shipyards to Norfolk Virginia, and saw alien humanoids). The respected names identified with the experiment include:
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
* Rudolph Ladenburg (1882-1952)
John Von Neumann (1903-1957)
David Hilbert (1862-1943), (John Von Neumann’s Gottingen dissertation advisor)
Nikola Tesla (1856-January 7, 1943),
Oswald Veblin (1880-1960),
Burtrand Russell (1872-1970),
Gabriel Kron (1901-1968),
Vannevar Bush (1890-1974)"
Excerpts from a memo by Vannevar Bush (original member, Eisenhower 's Majestic -12).
Follow-up thoughts:
Much points back to the genius of Tesla, and his much earlier original work at the turn of the century (aided by his off-planet intelligence, obtained through his communications with aliens [his words]), as well as the other brilliant minds who accomplished the unimaginable, with varying degrees of success, at that time.
Tesla cracked the riddles of antigravity. He understood how to harness free, clean energy from Earth ... But unfortunately for Tesla, JP Morgan and his other backers at the time saw his dream of free energy as a threat to their business model. In short: a threat to capitalism, through which they made their millions. Those issues have not gone away and exist to the present time. Political and religious dogmas still dominate, along with those of the military industrial complex. The US [The Pentagon] will not relinquish its number one standing in military, for the better good of mankind. It's a trickle down affair, with slow release (seeding) of advances to selected US dictated industry "partners," under their control. Power is not easily relinquished once obtained. Censorship is a fundamental strategy of how corporations, governments and organized religions succeed and prosper. Censorship of consciousness is key. The history of Censorship itself is fascinating.
One can only imagine what advances have occurred in the over 80 years since that "experiment". The secret world that exists beyond the superficial veneer of civilization is shocking and incomprehensible. Few are privy to it, few benefit from it --- the advancements, as well as the suppression of significant earth-altering technology that could benefit all of mankind, is astounding.
Ponder that.
Here I am, urgently in need of preparing for a rental inspection, yet still watching more of Simon's incredibly bingeable TH-cam videos. And that's OK 😅
2:05 - Chapter 1 - A note
3:25 - Chapter 2 - The philadelphia experiment(Part 1)
8:00 - Chapter 3 - The experiment is brought to light (Part 2)
16:30 - Chapter 4 - Debunking the philadelphia experiment (Part 3)
20:05 - Chapter 5 - The eldridge
22:35 - Chapter 6 - The SS Andrew furest
24:00 - Chapter 7 - Carl allen
26:40 - Chapter 8 - The actual experiment
30:25 - Chapter 9 - Last bits & bobs
How do you make this clickable time menu?
Just type the applicable digits with colon between and no spaces.
It automatically links to that point in the video.
I've just tried it with 14:10
It worked - taking me to the point in the video of some purple blobs shooting about. 🙂
Thank you !
This guy is a little too highly impressed by his own whitieness, and the sound of his own voice...😅
My grandfather was named Meredith. It was a traditionally a male name at the time and really only became female over the past century. So were names like Leslie, Allison, Vivian, Ashley, Madison, Whitney and Marion. Most of these became unisex or switched genders in the early decades of the 1900s.
Also Carol and Hillary. Both boys names in 19th century England.
what also switched was the gender-identifying color. Pink was originally for Boys, Blue was for Girls.
Back in the 1940s-50s, my mother's aunt had 5 sons: Bonnie, Sue, Carol, Meredith, and Ashley. As the story goes, she really wanted a girl and would come up with a name before the birth (before prenatal gender tests) and then ended up just keeping the name. She never did have a daughter.
@@rhov-anion the last three were traditionally male names anyway. They only became female in the last half of the century.
What about Sue ? I heard about a boy named Sue. He could fight apparently ! Lol Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Hey, if you like time travel movies, there are couple great little ones to recommend. "Safety Not Guaranteed" and "Time Trap" are both small-production indie films with some wonderful ideas and performances. Of course there is also the causality-bending loop-fest that is "Primer"
I'm new to these channels that Simon does, but I'm fascinated by the varied topics you guys cover, and i absolutely want to hear more about the Montauk Project
If you are interested in the Montauk Project then there are TH-cam videos from James Rink and John Whitberg and Arkheim Ra Wood and Penny Bradley who worked on it.
Fun fact: teleportation is a real phenomenon. Sort of. Specifically subatomic particles have been known to teleport sometimes. And be in multiple places at once, etc
Quantum mechanics are some weird shit
It’s a problem that pops up with computer chips. Transistors are getting so small effects like teleporting electrons are switching ones and zeroes when they shouldn’t.
@@joshuahadams Those are cosmic rays and "bit flips" you're talking about, they still cause computer crashes to this day. I guess gamma rays ARE electrons technically... depending if you believe in wave vs particle theory... and Bit flips can happen in any size transistor.
Meredith was historically a man's name. It only shifted to being a woman's name relatively recently.
Sounds like something a person named Meredith would say
Surely Simon knows that the word "dudgeon" (which does in fact rhyme with "dungeon"), is a perfectly common English word meaning "a feeling of resentment"? Just look up "High Dudgeon" - the sort of feeling I get when a purported Englishman fails to pronounce correctly even the most simple words (in any language let alone his native tongue).
Props to his scriptwriters for filling their scripts with words and names they know Simon will destroy!
Yes, he seems to speak English as a second language, some everyday words pronounced in bizarre ways. Like Tanzania, he pronounces it Tan-zay-nee-yaa. In another video about the American war he repeatedly pronounced Vietnam Vietnoom.
Yes, he seems to speak English as a second language, some everyday words pronounced in bizarre ways. Like Tanzania, he pronounces it Tan-zay-nee-yaa. In another video about the American war he repeatedly pronounced Vietnam Vietnoom.
Smooth brain hiccup, maybe?
The banter between you and the script Simon is a f****** genius I'm enjoying every second of it I'm gonna try and find More Content like this of You Really like it a lot.
Haha you made my day with this video! I requested this one a while back and some commenter was extremely rude to me for asking for it. I'm so happy you guys did it!
Thanks
While I like watching Simon tear about complete nonsense like this, I'd love to see him tackle some less ridiculous and far more suspicious mysteries. Here's two suggestions:
Michael Hastings: Investigative reporter who was critical of the US Government and war in Afghanistan. In 2013 he sent an email out to friends and contacts claiming he was on the verge of something huge, was going to go into hiding for awhile, and they should expect visits from the FBI due to their association with him. Two days later he was driving alone when his car accelerated to max speed and ran into a tree, killing him. Experts investigating the car crash have all been eerily similar. Everyone says while they do not personally believe there was any foul play in this case, it is possible to execute a cyber attack on a car, the government almost certainly has that capability, and if someone wanted to hack the car to kill him, that is exactly how to go about doing so.
Gary Webb: Journalist who published an exposé in the 90s detailing an alleged connection between the CIA and drug cartels largely responsible for creating the crack epidemic a decade earlier, with the CIA then using that money to fund Contra anti-communist rebels in Central America. He was aggressively discredited, forced to resign and years later committed suicide by shooting himself not once, but twice in the head. While parts of his story are still generally considered inaccurate, since his death the CIA connection to the drug business has all but been confirmed by multiple sources.
There's plenty of details I left out but I'm sure your writers could dig into it.
Get to crackin' on that script.
Both of those are real, IMO... Fun fact! Plattsburgh AFB was the nearest SAC base to where the patients for MK Ultra came from- a Psyche Ward in Montreal, Que, aka, the playground next door. Also, Eric Harris, a Columbine killer my same age, lived on PAFB until it closed in 1995. The Hospital was the 1st building destroyed and I know of underground tunnels with very big doors that are welded shut. Oh and instead of using canaries in these tunnels, they used goats (To monitor the air quality). The offspring of these goats live on a small farm nearby. Who knows, maybe they were stared at blankley at some point in time...
i need these videos
Consider in 1943, almost nobody ever heard of teleporting or time travels back then to be able to just make that up. Therefore, it must as happened as such.
I have an idea- Sometimes, coverups and conspiracies turn out to be true (rarely, but it's happened. Light bulb manufacturers, for example). What if you made a game out of that, similar to the real or fake mystery scripts you've been doing? Get a bunch of conspiracy theories, find some that turned out to be real, and make Simon guess which ones actually happened
That already happened. here you go: th-cam.com/video/_Mod5jHnCNk/w-d-xo.html
Theories labeled conspiracy turn out to be truth much more often than some would have you believe. Labeling something one wants to hide or cover-up as a conspiracy is a method of subterfuge that relies on intelligence elitism and shaming to be effective, "intelligent" people know too much to be taken in by the conspiracy so only the unintelligent and uneducated believe in them. The biggest of the many so-called conspiracy theories to be proven true in just the past couple of years is arguably UFOs. For more than seventy years the "intelligent" took great pleasure in making fun of people who claimed UFOs were real, often describing them as Hillbillies lacking both teeth and brains. That the smug elite were being useful idiots is quite ironic.
Legendary video, A+
It's such a great story, it is understandable that people have been circulating it for so many years.
Great critical analysis.
Thank you for making it.
You finally started giving credit to Aspen! I've seen them in the credits for quite a few of these videos so far, but I think this is the first time you actually made an acknowledgement on video during the episode!
I didn't see the name Aspen in the credits. Editing was actually done by Danniel. Thought he said it was either Jen or Aspen who was doing editing in the beginning. What am I missing? 🥴
@@Julia-uh4li Simon isn't always the best at knowing who did what. Pretty sure it's due to the 15+ channels he does. The cold reads (BB, CC & Into the Unknown) are pretty loose. He's may correct it later as he's very diligent about giving credit, though.
@@andiward7068 it's actually one of the things I really like about these more free-form style channels, the personality/style of the writers and editors shows up, and Simon embraces it as such, and gives credit where credit is due. It's kinda cool to watch
@@andiward7068 Yeah, thanks. This isn't my first rodeo with the whistle-verse. I thought he had 13 channels.. Is it 15 now? I found his latest, as far as I know, The Science of Science Fiction in June. I don't sub to his military style one. Not my thing. He hasn't been sharing his newest channel yet, because he's still putting out fresh content made last Feb.
The Philidelphia with Milka has been a thing here in Germany for forever. If i had to imagine what heavens tastes like, that stuff would come very close
Simon, watch the movie "The Triangle". It's a 3 hour miniseries concluding the Philadelphia Experiment story. It's very entertaining and has some really good actors.
Top tip for a film to look out for :) And you're right, that's a decent cast list indeed.
When I mentioned this to a good friend years ago he paused and said his Dad witnessed this incident while in the military. On a ship in Norfolk. He told his son on his death bed what he had seen. He said that they couldn't court martial him now. Just relaying the conversation.
I remember listening to Coast to Coast AM late one night (can't recall if the host was Art Bell or George Noory at the time). Some guy called in, I think it was a man named Al Bielek claiming to be part of the Philadelphia Project along with the Montauk Project, he even claimed that he was a different person before the end of WW2 but was reverted back to a child with captured Nazi tech. Then he went on to say that the Montauk Project was basically a space-time stargate worked on in partnership with various alien species. He travelled 800 years in the future where Earth's pop is 500million, each city is ruled by a highly radioactive supercomputer than can scan your brain for crimes and he is told that there is an attempted alien invasion in 2012.
So yeah.
What’s crazy is there are some really gullible people out there that believed every word he said.
I like the guy who went to Mars with Barack Obama.
He even saw Lincoln shot. Without his accounts, we might have never known what happened to ol' Abe.
Never forget to laugh in someone's face when they say such nonsense.
I miss Coast to Coast. Back when this kind of crazy stuff was still pretty innocent fun. Now you have people running on the "STOP THE NAZI SUPERCOMPUTER" ticket, and others running in favor of the NAZI supercomputer aliens.
The even worse thing is that some of the people telling these crazy stories believe them. I went to high school with a kid, who was actually really smart, but was an enormous liar. I mean he would lie so bad, you couldn't believe much of what came out of his mouth. He would lie about things for no reason, not to one up someone, not to make friends, not as a joke to see how gullible the dumber people below him were. He would just lie, almost like he couldn't tell the truth. The crazy part was, no matter how much you could prove he was lying, he would never back down from it. He literally convinced himself that whatever he had said WAS the actual truth.
Thank you for doing a video on this. I'm not sure if it was your channel or not but I remember recommending this topic. It's by far one of the most intresting stories to me.
Thx
This Philadelphia experiment sounds a lot like a real world attempt to teleport a battleship 2 feet to the left that was carried out in the Philipines.
Not only did the ship not teleport but it exploded and was structurally damaged along its length.
There were people embedded into the metal or rather bits of people,
but this was a product of the explosion, rather than material translation.
Enjoy the more relaxed style, awesome watch - thanks for sharing!
This is one of the stories my father told me as a kid, and that made me go "huh, he's either messing with me, or stupid."
I saw a 'documentary' on this when I was a kid and it freaked me out so bad.
Can't wait to dig in to the video!
This is my dads favorite conspiracy but all me and my siblings do is make fun of him since none of us believe it lol
Hey Simon - Re: your thoughts on the Moon Landing Conspiracy, you should see a movie called Capricorn One. It's a movie from around the 80's if I remember right, and it involves faking a Mars landing, and all the nonsense the government would have to do to cover it up. It's great at showing how impossible a conspiracy of that scale would be.
I'm starting to think that there's no such thing as Simon Whistler, and he was actually an early attempt at an AI deepfake that gained sentience, went rouge, and hacked a bot that creates random youtube channels.
You should cover the stuff in “The Men Who Stare at Goats”. The US most definitely had experiments with psychics and the paranormal… they just mostly were laughable and didn’t amount to anything
MK Ultra and Project Monarch stuff I know about. Never watched that film though.
A decade and a half ago I used to enjoy the Vigilant Citizen website... but then I think he lost his mind and went a bit too far out there.
George Clooney a first part as an unhinged narcissist, a role he is almost typecast in nowadays.
That mirror program was only started, because we discovered the Soviets and their Allies already had started their programs.
The Problem was that the Soviet “scientists” were claiming successes (to stay out of the gulags), so the US, UK, Can, France, and China, and Japan *All* started programs as their spies also heard the claims.
You would do well to reexamine your conclusion. Remote viewing is certainly a real thing and is still used today with unquestionable results. As a matter of fact the current climate crisis was viewed by a large group of viewers several thousand given a target and they all viewed a global disaster a decade from now. Do you well to revisit the subject. On the paranormal the same was found, why do you think the rich and powerful use so much occult symbology. Research and avoid the naysayers. Peace love Unity
@@byronschroedel432 “remote viewers” and their believer have never been able to reproduce their claimed abilities in sterile environments. Especially *when they are not told the subject being discussed at the “targeted” location beforehand* James Randi still has available the $1million USD prize for anyone who can prove their pseudoscientific claims true. *The claimants are even allowed to stay publicly anonymous and he’ll donate the money to their charity of choice* Not one person has stepped up to prove their “abilities” for a million dollars to them personally or to charity.
As for Climate Change, the first warnings were written about in the 1920s of the potential adverse effects of rampant GHG production.
The first scientific papers warning about the ecological catastrophe inherent with uncontrolled burning of Fossil Fuels came out in the 1960s. AND, Shell oil company came to the exact same conclusion of ecological calamity in the 1970s with their internally funded scientific studies.
The scientific community has had consensus about Climate Change since the mid-1980s, with only the exact mechanisms, tipping point, & timing being up for dispute.
Simon: It turns out, that, well, I just needed more people!
Simon is personally going to employ the entire planet, one person at a time 😂😍
This episode really got me thinking. I will say I do believe the Navy has been involved in some bizarre shit. My grandfather was a WW2/Korea naval vet and he had some crazy story (but most of them do). I do remember him mentioning the Philadelphia experiment and that he felt it was suspicious, but this was in the early 2000's so I don't have the details. I also know a guy who suspect Bin Laden's corpse was brought onto his ship, but he's not certain because they put all non essential men into what was pretty much a lock down so very few were allowed to even know what was happening, the timeline just added up and him and all his mates guessed that's what it was.
The 84 movie was great. Watched it about 10 times. Great personal story as well as sci fi
Anyone familiar with the works of HP Lovecraft knows that the USS Eldridge was the perfect choice for the supposed eldritch horror that happened
Cthulhu fh'tagn!
33:40 -- Pretty much all Navy ships in any navy in the world that reach the end of their useful life without sinking from enemy action or mishap are sold for scrap. This was even true in the era of wooden ships, since the sheer amount of timber in a ship of the line was worth salvaging. If they actually _do_ have anything secret on board, it's simply removed before the sale.
And made into razor blades funnily enough.
The Mayflower is now a barn in England. Turned it upside down.
Every steel naval vessel which could possibly find itself surrounded by mines is de-gaussed when finally assembled to remove magnetism from being electrically welded together. ( see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degaussing ) and has cabling and equipment to adjust such magnetism onboard. It's not sfi-fi, it's fact. Thou, agreed that it doesn't render the ship invisible nor teleport it to parts unknown.
True, as an antique restorer, I recently disappointed an owner by pointing out that his "Elizabethan" dining table was a Victorian fake made from old ships timbers. He should have checked the underside before buying.
I had a good friend who's surname was Dudgeon. Sadly he's passed now, was a great guy, excellent voice, loved telling stories.
Rest in Peace Dudge, you were epic.
Stationed at the Philadelphia Shipyard, across the Harbor was a building where supposedly the ship or parts was housed. Heard that more than once.
i just remember one of the x-files episodes based on this, actually quite a good episode too 😂
Things like this bring me back to my middle school days. I used to go to the school library whenever I could, and I was fascinated by books about "the unexplained". In hindsight it probably wasn't super responsible for the school to have books like this, because to a rational adult those books were obviously fiction, but that was NOT obvious to me at the time. I believed in everything from aliens to bigfoot to doppelgangers.
You no longer believe?
@@kwhp1507 I mean aliens almost certainly exist out there somewhere, it's just statistically probable. But I don't think they're coming here to mess with our cows and flatten our crops.
Those kinds of books were where I developed skeptical information analysis skills and a desire for solid knowledge. I’ll wager you benefited similarly and had fun with all the wacky stories in the process!
But not alien bigfoot doppelgangers, becasue that's just silly...
Its so refreshing to see a comment section full of folk so open minded...oh no, wait, the other thing.
Hey Simon I spent 10 years in the Navy they were rumors floating around when I was in that the USS Eldridge was replaced because of the Philadelphia Experiment that the original one couldn't be used because of the so-called bodies that refused into the ship that's something that I just figured I'd make mention
Simon, a number of inventions were accidental/unintentional: Teflon (PTFE), pyroceram (Corning Ware), Minoxidil, Post It Notes, etc.
Fun facts:
*the ship end up in Greek navy and became almost immediately the source of many urban legends or as are called in Greek army jargon " radio arvila " stories ( radio boot )
One of the reasons why,was that there was wiring and doors leading to " no where" and parts of the ship being unaccessible
*Of course very common things in ww2 veteran ships like her sister ship also handed to the Greek navy that you can see it in the movie " Alice in navy "
* The Armenian navy made a final check out before the ship was allowed to be decomissioned
* Right afterwards it was recycled and it's steel was made into razor blades 😄
Edit* American ( damnit autocorrect)
Why would the American Navy need to check out the ship before being decommissioned, especially when it didn't belong to them anymore??
Maritime Disasters also did a great video tearing this conspiracy theory appart during his ghost stories month last year. Nice to see you taking it on as well Simon.
Just a note: that excellent channel is Maritime Horrors. The whole October spooky series is great!
YES!! Do an episode about the Montauk Project! I love seeing/hearing other people’s perspectives.
This episode is so much fun to watch and hear (well the tangents too). It wouldn’t be as good without them.
Cloaking would only work in space anyways. You’d hear the engine noise, even a bicycle makes noise. Let’s not mention the obvious…the water just moving on its own.
Love all the writers and editors, fabulous.
Kevin's my fav though and I'm not afraid of my simpage.
Man, between the Titanic episode, the Simulation Theory and now the Philadelphia Experiment, Simon is well on his way to debunking everything ever mentioned in an Uchikoshi game XDDD
Funny how there were no simulation theories BEFORE The Matrix came out 🤔
@@proto-geek248 There were in philosophy. You can generally date an undergraduate metaphysics and epistemology exam paper to before or after 1999 by whether it asks "Can you know you are not a brain in a vat in orbit of Alpha Centauri?" or "Can you know you are not in a computer simulation?"
@@alisonhill3941 @alisonhill3941 Yes, of course, but I was referring to the general zeitgeist. Such amusing concepts had been proposed by countless science fiction authors well before the Wachowski brothers.
@@proto-geek248 It makes sense for the idea to enter the general consciousness at the same time as The Matrix, as The Matrix worked as well as it did because the internet was becoming more widespread and people were beginning to realise just how realistic it was going to be possible to make simulations in the future.
@@alisonhill3941 I agree. And it was really well done. Love that flick.
I have always thought that the most probable explanation for this urban legend was that the Navy really did wire a ship up with a bunch of electrical generators trying to mess with radar signatures and through a horrible accident just managed to electrocute most of the crew....not wanting to admit they did the stupidest thing in the world by wiring up a giant metal ship in the middle of the harbor and killing a few hundred valuable sailors in the middle of the second world war no less they decided this was the best way to cover the whole thing up. The few remaining survivors were probably made to sign NDAs and threatened with jail time should they ever tell anyone about the accident.
That's a really good theory
And no one noticed the deaths of an entire crew? Nahhhh
@@grilledleeks6514 Speaking honestly the eldridge was probably chosen as the "cover up ship" because it was docked in a different harbor and next of kin probably wouldn't associate the deaths of their family with an incident involving a different ship. WWII much like Vietnam was not like modern war where on a bad day 20-30 Soldiers were killed or injured....thousands died weekly. A notice from the department of the Navy much like the army dosen't actually have to tell you how or where your family member died only in fact that they have either died or are currently missing/ presumably dead. It's extremely sad and if true a national embarrassment but given the time period completely plausible and very doable more so back then than now with cellphones and mass information sharing etc etc.
@@SOGSkull I never thought it about it before but that does seem like a possibility.
@@grilledleeks6514 there were 79,000 American soldiers listed as MIA at the end WW2. People can disappear very easily in military service. Their families might not have known where they were to begin with, and the military and government just had to not admit they knew.
I’m not saying the electrocuted ship theory is the correct one, just that missing soldiers is the least stumbling block to it.
My brother and I saw the movie The Philadelphia Experiment in the theater. At the time, we thought it was really cool. I had no idea it was supposed to have been based on possibly true events. The main character was played by Michael Pare. I thought he was going to go on to huge success in the next few years.
But what if the Philadelhia Experiment did't happen but a cover-up was made nevertheless to hide something even more secret?
Simon insisting all aliens would be super intelligent because they made spacecraft is like assuming everyone who drives a car is smart enough or able to build and operate it. In my head, any aliens who get here are incompetent or being punished by getting sent to the "ball of dirt covered in parasites."
Then they say nah and choose to die in space lol
Sentenced to civil service and tasked with surveying ant colonies along the highway
Who watches for the tangents? The topics are interesting, but those tangents increase the entertainment value.
That was an awesome bit of news about the "Milka Philadelphia Cheese", I had no idea and am heading for the store right away.
Best Regards,
Carlos.
When I first heard about this as a freshman in highschool I asked my history teacher (a navy vet) about it and he sighed and shook his head. No, he said, not invisible to the eye but invisible to water mines and explosives. Then asked the same question to one of my mom's ex-boyfriends (another navy vet) and got the exact same response. The history teacher even went as far as saying he visited the ship while he was in the service and got to read the not too secret parts of the ships log. Such a cool story, I still bring it up for friendly debates with friends and family.
The brain-washing and cover-up operation really worked well!
On the subject of deathbed revelations and confessions, I would love for there to be an episode of major secrets and conspiracies that turned out to be true and were revealed by deathbed confessions. 😄😄
Apparently, someone recently gave a deathbed confession to being one of the men who escaped Alcatraz and was presumed dead. I didn't get the impression he was credible, but I didn't hear it from him either.
Simon has done that on another channel of his not too long ago. It was pretty cool. I remember one of them was that a mother confessed to her kids to killing their father and keeping his body in a chest freezer in a storage unit. The crazy part was that she actually moved from California to the east coast and brought the freezer AND the body with her. Smdh, some people's children lol.
Always a nice pick-me-up when I see you/your team's work
i saw that movie as a kid at the local drive in when it was new. it was kinda weird, but with the lack of trust people had in the government, it was more believable than you might think.
Radar started out as an experimental death ray but wound up locating aircraft and surface objects in the dark. Vulcanized rubber started off with experiments that were supposed to produce something else. Sometimes experiments come up with something different. Accidental discoveries abound.
I still want to see that teleportation in action, though!
I would like to see your team cover the social and psychological motivations for hoaxes and conspiracy theories, in perpetrators and believers both.
That would be interesting. People believe in outlandish crap because they want it to be real. They want it to be real because it would change the world. They want the world changed because they're unhappy with its present state.
My grandpa was an iron worker in Philadelphia during the war. Once when he had a lot to drink he told me about being ordered to “cut bodies out of the deck”. He said officers told him to never talk about it.
BULLSHIT
Yer, right.
Aaah, yes, Simon once again reminds us that he is not, in fact, a very clever and cleverly-disguised cat who learned to read and write, and that we should believe that would be impossible.
As to the reason why the ONR printed multiple copies. I've a few friends who work for Government agencies, & 1 is in Naval Intelligence. Gov agencies have to be careful & take seriously anything sent to them, especially anonymously. They would've made copies, probably before anyone had actually read it, & had multiple people analyze it for coded intelligence, some sort of threat, etc., before taking it at its crazy face value. Coding info into a book that most ppl would write off as crazy means reg ppl would ignore it, therefore keeping info hidden. Just like secret codes within mundane looking letters, newspaper articles, etc.
I actually saw the schematics of the devices they "used" on the Eldritch. They were just two degauss units on the ship, the only modification being a high power electricity source. Lots of high electricity. The issue with this is if you recreate it to the schematics with their specifications you get... a fire.... last time I checked, time travel isn't very affective if the person traveling is in flames, probably to a crisp, unless of course it's a cybernetic organism made in the likeness of Schwarzenegger....
..I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle
My great grandpa is actually an immortal being fused with a steel wall that they cut out of the ship and put in a lab in Arizona. We are allowed to visit him once a year under supervision. They don't let us talk about why he's there or anything. All around pretty cool guys though!
To quote Douglas Adams "that's a Somebody Else's Problem Field... you have to sneak up on it..." I want one...
Event Horizon - the Philadelphia Experiment, but in space, and they went through Hell. A cult classic, give it a watch, if you haven't.
To answer Simon's question, if a particle teleported(quantum tunneled) to where another particle is, they make a nuclear fusion.
This is actually how the sun produces energy, because the temperature inside the sun is not enough for direct fusion, they can only happen by quantum tunneling.
So Simon's guess is correct.
Unless...
The difference in quantum signatures acts like trying to put two magnets same pole-to-same pole, causing one to be repulsed into a quantum 'limbo', or even to directly swap places. As the 'intruding' particle has the higher energy state (due to it being the one initiating quantum superposition), the currently existing particle is the one shunted.
Simon, research how the microwave was invented (hint they tried to make something incredible and made it more incredible by accident).
Wasn't it merely b/c they found out the microwave freq. of their RADAR could cause things like your skin to heat up? Same as the Auditory effect of Microwaves on the brain can and HAVE been used to broadcast voices and music into the heads of willing and unwitting subjects? Ruh roh! Yes, that's NOT a conspiracy and it IS real.
Back in the 90’s I was stationed at Lamberts Point Deperming Facility just down the river from Norfolk Naval Station. I asked the civilian engineer about the Philadelphia Experiment. He made spooky noises and then laughed at me. For the next 2 years he would, on occasion walk up behind me, make spooky noises(think the vocal equivalent or the X-files theme), and walk away laughing.
I am accustomed to Simon being succinct, to the point and informative. His videos are organized, logical and sequential. I believe this is the first time I've seen Simon attempt to narrate a video after having smoked a barrel of weed.
You clearly have not seen a lot of Buisness Blaze, or Brain Blaze, or whatever the channel is called these days
Actually, the flow of time is also affected by the gravity in the area. For instance, with 2 caesium clocks set identically, and one carried to a high altitude, when brought back together the one kept at altitude will have gained time, showing time was flowing faster in the lower gravity.
Its the Bald guy.
It’s always the Bald guy
"It's the Bald Guy." (Glass half empty.)
"It's the Bearded Guy." (Glass half full.)
He must have forgotten to buy some of the Keeps he sells. 😉
@@Russo-Delenda-Est Keeps wasn't around back when he claims to have lost his hair. Trust me I know because I also began to lose a lot of my hair around that time. Just like Simon I've embraced the baldness, wear glasses, and have grown a marvelous beard
good ep my dude
Simon is halarious keep up the great content
Dude - "Eldridge" and "eldritch" are not the same thing . . . FFS.
It’s a reasonable mistake but I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught it.
I've never had a chance to try English chocolate but I hear it's far, far superior to America. The Philadelphia sounds good.
I wish I could find someone who could send me some delicious British candy. I could sent you some stuff that's popular in America. Like different kinds of ammunition that we put in our kid's stockings at Christmas. 😂
It helps that the chocolate is crap in the States because now I don’t eat it! You can by uk stuff for a stupid amount of dollars in some places. Hint: Cadbury chocolate that’s made by Hershey’s has sugar as the first ingredient. The good stuff has milk listed first.
Over here the rumours are your countries citizens secrete their ammunition in your school kids, at velocity. Is this true?
Simon, I would love to be standing next to you as a UFO lands 20 yards away and then listen to you try and explain it away, Venus reflecting off some swamp gas just wouldn't cut it.
Loved the video by the way
Hollywood actress Hedy Lamarr invented the precursor to Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, known at the time as frequency hopping, for use in WWII by the U.S. Navy on submarines so their signal could not be decoded by the enemy. The Navy refused to use her invention during WWII, however she was officially recognized as the inventor in the 1990's. While she was awarded a patent in the 1940's, I believe her invention was withheld by the U.S. government and possibly marked as classified until quite some time later for national security purposes.