watching this video, as i just bought a challenger " that looks like the back of elizabeth shops, holy crap that is Elizabeth shops!" love it maybe i can save on postage lol
Yes - a quick video done at at Elizabeth. Price includes Free Express Post Shipping - can't get much cheaper than that! Also - currently on sale for $100 off until tomorrow.
Is the behaviour of auto mate the same in 4wd high mode as it is in 2wd like you showed in the video? I always have it in 4 high, and don’t want to put it in 2wd just to get the most benefits out of auto mate? I read through the FAQ on your website and saw it mentioned under “what determines when it locks or unlocks”
Hi Shaun, I have replied to your email you send us with additional information than this comment. Yes, we have seen reductions in the engine temperature when travelling at the same speed with the torque converter (TC) locked vs unlocked. With the TC locked, the engine doesn't need to work quite as hard to maintain the same speed. The heat generated by the TC is lost energy to the wheels, and the heat removed by the transmission cooler also passes into the radiator. We've also observed lower intake temperatures.Cheers Marshall
Please refer to the installation video by Denmonkey into his Pajero which provides a good idea of how the kit is installed in the Challenger/Triton. See the Pajero playlist.
Hi there Do you still have the module for the Challenger? I wonder if this affects reliability of the transmission. As far as I can understand, it should make the transmission last longer (If used correctly). What I don't understand though is why on earth this transmissions where designed with so much torque converter slippage. I just bought a challenger, and I am astonished by how much it slips. Why does it come like that from the factory? Was the designer drunk while creating the specs? 😂😂
Hi Daniel, yes, they are still available. Good questions! Heat is the killer of transmissions, and the lockup kit avoids transmissions from overheating. In the Challenger (and Triton equivalent) it also avoids the transmission going into LIMP mode when climbing long hills or driving in sand. The reason there's such a high slip torque converter is so it can claim to tow 3t. It needs the high slip to get 3t off the line with the 2.5L engine. With the lockup kit (auto-mate) removing the high slip, we've had reports of 20%+ better fuel economy.
Is this same reason the torque figure for the automatic 2.5 litre reduced from 400 nm in the manuals to 350nm? Just to avoid slipping the loose torque converter even more. If it's not slipping nearly as much with the automate would that mean it would be safe to get that extra 50nm back?
@@stevehirst536 auto-mate monitors the temperatures sensor and doesnt activate until its above 40 deg C. If you sensor has failed and reads a high value all the time, auto-mate will work ok. We can provide a special firmware for you with the temperature activation disabled if you wish. Until the transmission is warm though, gear changes are not as smooth. If your sensor has failed with a value of 0 (or less than 40), your ECU is probably never locking the converter. auto-mate will fix this (with a firmware change)
@@mm4x492 thanks for the reply. It's a bit of an odd one, when it's read from cold it will read ok some days, other days it will read -40. Some days it will read the temperature right up until 80/85 then drop to -40 other days it will work all day
@@stevehirst536 -40 is the minimum, which indicates open circuit. Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring connection - could be inside the trans or external. If you wanted an auto-mate, We'd need to create a special firmware version which ignored the sensor. From the website, use the "contact us" if you want more information or a quote.
@@mm4x492 ok thanks. I'll order the new sensor which comes with the whole internal wiring loom anyway and swap that out then if that fixes the issue I can get the auto mate ordered, if not then I'll contact you about getting the no sensor data version. I'm assuming you post to the UK?
watching this video, as i just bought a challenger " that looks like the back of elizabeth shops, holy crap that is Elizabeth shops!" love it maybe i can save on postage lol
Yes - a quick video done at at Elizabeth. Price includes Free Express Post Shipping - can't get much cheaper than that! Also - currently on sale for $100 off until tomorrow.
Is the behaviour of auto mate the same in 4wd high mode as it is in 2wd like you showed in the video? I always have it in 4 high, and don’t want to put it in 2wd just to get the most benefits out of auto mate? I read through the FAQ on your website and saw it mentioned under “what determines when it locks or unlocks”
Hi Ewoud, Yes, auto-mate operates the same in 4wd high and 2wd.
just a suggestion, the audio is very poor. the ads are so loud but I can hardly hear your voice.
Hi Marshall would heat from the transmission cause coolant temps to raise higher then normal?
Hi Shaun, I have replied to your email you send us with additional information than this comment.
Yes, we have seen reductions in the engine temperature when travelling at the same speed with the torque converter (TC) locked vs unlocked. With the TC locked, the engine doesn't need to work quite as hard to maintain the same speed. The heat generated by the TC is lost energy to the wheels, and the heat removed by the transmission cooler also passes into the radiator. We've also observed lower intake temperatures.Cheers Marshall
Do you have an install video for the challenger/triton?
Please refer to the installation video by Denmonkey into his Pajero which provides a good idea of how the kit is installed in the Challenger/Triton. See the Pajero playlist.
Hi there
Do you still have the module for the Challenger?
I wonder if this affects reliability of the transmission. As far as I can understand, it should make the transmission last longer (If used correctly).
What I don't understand though is why on earth this transmissions where designed with so much torque converter slippage. I just bought a challenger, and I am astonished by how much it slips.
Why does it come like that from the factory? Was the designer drunk while creating the specs? 😂😂
Hi Daniel, yes, they are still available. Good questions! Heat is the killer of transmissions, and the lockup kit avoids transmissions from overheating. In the Challenger (and Triton equivalent) it also avoids the transmission going into LIMP mode when climbing long hills or driving in sand. The reason there's such a high slip torque converter is so it can claim to tow 3t. It needs the high slip to get 3t off the line with the 2.5L engine. With the lockup kit (auto-mate) removing the high slip, we've had reports of 20%+ better fuel economy.
Is this same reason the torque figure for the automatic 2.5 litre reduced from 400 nm in the manuals to 350nm? Just to avoid slipping the loose torque converter even more. If it's not slipping nearly as much with the automate would that mean it would be safe to get that extra 50nm back?
How does it work under heavy acceleration? Will it stay locked up?
Also my transmission temperature sensor failed years ago, will the affect how the auto mate works with no temperature signal?
@@stevehirst536 auto-mate monitors the temperatures sensor and doesnt activate until its above 40 deg C. If you sensor has failed and reads a high value all the time, auto-mate will work ok. We can provide a special firmware for you with the temperature activation disabled if you wish.
Until the transmission is warm though, gear changes are not as smooth. If your sensor has failed with a value of 0 (or less than 40), your ECU is probably never locking the converter. auto-mate will fix this (with a firmware change)
@@mm4x492 thanks for the reply. It's a bit of an odd one, when it's read from cold it will read ok some days, other days it will read -40. Some days it will read the temperature right up until 80/85 then drop to -40 other days it will work all day
@@stevehirst536 -40 is the minimum, which indicates open circuit. Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring connection - could be inside the trans or external. If you wanted an auto-mate, We'd need to create a special firmware version which ignored the sensor. From the website, use the "contact us" if you want more information or a quote.
@@mm4x492 ok thanks. I'll order the new sensor which comes with the whole internal wiring loom anyway and swap that out then if that fixes the issue I can get the auto mate ordered, if not then I'll contact you about getting the no sensor data version. I'm assuming you post to the UK?
Will you be doing an installation video?
Hi Chris, Yes, install video coming very soon.
Is this compatible with the MN triton? Everything I believe is the same mechanically?
@@presentlypresentingmyprese7058 The MN Triton is available for both 4 and 5 speeds.