I ordered a Franklin back in mid-February during his introductory drop in the Buck Brown color. It's the "Goldilocks" of his lineup. Perfectly sized right between the Finnigan and the Big Finn without the thickness and bulk.
I have been looking at Lost Dutchman for my next wallet, mainly at the Big fin or the Finnigian. My decision just got a lot more complicated with this option, especially at the price. Clearly a great company with innovative designs. This is a good looking wallet, and no-stich wallets are growing on me, but I must admit I like the aesthetics that colour accents of thread can provide, plus the cleaner front and back surfaces are slightly more appealing to me.
Coming back to this review because I purchased the Franklin after watching this video, but you can actually fold NA (US/CA) cash in half and slot it in where the tab holds the wallet together at the back, one layer above the quick carry card slot! I figured that way you could organize the wallet as: 1) Internal card pocket: Archived/less used cards 2) External card slot: Most used card 3) Additional fold at back: Cash
I just ordered the Finnigan a couple of weeks ago, but after seeing this, I kind of wish I bought the Franklin instead. I'm totally impressed with this no-stitch design.
@@ImTerero Fits well, it is basically the height of a credit card and maybe only 2 cm wider. If you want something even slimmer and mostly carry cards, you can get the smaller version (mini Franklin) , which is super small and basically the size of a credit card.
Why did you stop including the features list which you use show right after unboxing. (Leather type, price, made in " ", card/cash/coin capacity, leather thickness etc). It was really helpfull please start adding it back to your videos. Thanks.
Just got this one today, honestly I’m fitting like 5 cards on the front card slot and a whole bunch of cash and cards inside. This things great! It’s beautiful. We’ll see how it holds up, hopefully I don’t flex it out too much
Ordered this wallet about 6 weeks ago. Absolutely loved it for the first few weeks. However, I'm now quite disappointed because after breaking in, my quick access card easily would fall out (which is the exact reason I got a new wallet). I started putting two cards in to make a tighter fit, then three...I am now looking for a new wallet without a quick access slot. If you have to put 4 cards in a quick access slot, to me it kinda defeats the purpose. It's not quick access if you have to pull all the cards out to find the one you want. If you are putting multiple cards in the slot, this wallet is definitely for you. It's awesome. But not for me, unfortunately.
Beautiful wallet and I am very happy for the maker. Talented. The only thing is that the rankings is a bit strange. Even though this is a nice wallet, why is it better than Open Sea Leather Houbei for example? But I understand that is is just base on Mark's taste. I personally find the Houbei design more utilitarian. I won't speak about looks because that is subjective, but the Houbei has more pockets, better quick access pocket, and the little stitching is reliable and a standout feauture. Both wallets are nice, again, I just don't get the rankings 😊
Open Seas Leather do seem like they would be a good alternative to this. I haven't thought about the company for a while, I'll have to look at their offerings again, thanks for the reminder. The rankings are obviously quite subjective. I see them more as a guideline for people who aren't able to handle the product themselves before purchase. I don't think anyone should be dismissing a wallet that interests them based on a slightly lower score.
Open Seas has one stitchless wallet which I’ll be reviewing very soon. Stitchless versus sewn wallets are (obviously) designed and executed differently, so I rank them separately. That said, I try to keep my review and rankings as unbiased as I can. I’m headed to Hawaii so I plan on stopping by Open Seas to say hello to Michael. I’ll let him know your appreciation for his wallets.
@@walletopia send him my greetings from the Netherlands! Michael and I have spoken before (in Spanish because he speaks it well). His passion for leather started in Central America when visiting Leather shoe makers there (he told me). And since I am from Honduras, we had a nice conversation. I own the Houbei and the Gundeck and love them too. Enjoy your trip Mark 😊
I collect wallets. I have eight or nine from Open Sea and a few from the Das Offene Meer days. I also have 3 from Lost Dutchman, including the Franklin. The Franklin is by far my favorite top loading wallet. The other top loading wallets I have are stitched together and it constricts the contents and makes it hard to get cash in and out. The stitchless design of the Franklin allows for it to be more flexible and it’s easier to work with cash. Currently I have the Open Sea Stitchless wallet in my back pocket (it’s like a gundeck with a whole lot of extra positives in my opinion). These two are my favorites of any I have right now.
Hey Mark you should do a 3 part review on Mitchel Leather Companies wallet options like you did for Nomad. I know you did their famous Money Clip Wallet a little bit ago but they also have a beautiful card wallet and wrap wallet. I have the MCW and card wallet in a amazing buffalo whiskey color. The MCW is 2 years old and looks new! I just got the card wallet for business cards and works amazing after broken in.
An incredible score for a boring wallet……… BUT it truly is a great 5* wallet. 🤩 Let me explain - being stitchless and made to a perfect size, it just looks so damn plain and boring *yawn* However, it fits nearly all notes and a wedge of cards into such a small, compact wallet that it is actually pretty epic. I am so confused right now! 😂 Part of me thinks it’s boring and the other half is on his website now ordering one. It’s making me feel ‘strange’ 🤨 I don’t know what’s going off. 🤔 Superb score for a well made and designed wallet. Absolutely superb job Nate. Well done to you Sir 👊🏻🤩
I just want to say Thank You. I watched a ton of your reviews before I ended up going with this wallet and happy I did. You have some great reviews and looking at all these wallets, it's made me want to start maybe having a few to alternate from. I will probably end up getting a WIllow Craft Luxe Minimalist and Tauruscamp Base Wallet. I've never been a big fan of a lot of the store bought wallets and have wasted money on high end designer ones which didn't last as long as it should have.
I just picked this exact one up, along with a Horween Dublin Topsider, can't wait for them to arrive! I feel like the russet color will patina really well. I'm going to drop them into service and rotate with my well loved daily carry 2 year old Horween Chromexcel LS Johnny. I have a Stow, a couple of Dango, and multiple Traxvax, but they are gathering dust. High quality leather is something else!
I’m almost tempted to pick this up based on Walletopia’s recommendation. Their previous highest rated wallet, the Craft & Lore port wallet, has been my EDC for a while and it’s been awesome.
I think the usability of this wallet is a bit overstated. Most of your cards would be all jumbled together, meaning you'd have to take them all out to find the one you want. In addition, the flap feels figitty. I feel like if I was in a rush at a store, this wallet would take me a lot longer to pay than some others would.
@@walletopiaTrue but it's only got one quick access slot and no other slots but the main one. Anyhow, thanks for responding, I'm a big fan of the channel!
I currently have the Singular leather wallet and what’s nice about that one is you can fan the cards while still in the wallet because of the elastic band. Retrieving cards is a breeze.
Just got mine in the mail along with a finnigan. I have to say, for one who loves micro wallets, the finnigan was perfect for me! I didn’t mind folding up the cash at all. It’s a small price to pay for space saving properties. I must say, however, that I’m a little disappointed with the Franklin. Firstly, the leather. I’m not too familiar with the W&C harness leather being used, so please forgive my ignorance for finding the leather like plastic in the way it looks, sounds (squeaky), feels (the glaze feels like a layer of plastic, and it is super inconsistent cos it’s rough where the folds are, like micro fractures in plastic when it’s stretched/bent), and heck it even smells like plastic! And the leather is super thick! I compared the russet side by side with the buck brown, and it was easily 50% thicker on the russet. Not a good choice for a no-stitch wallet cos all that folding adds up to the thickness. Secondly, I feel the quick draw weakens the integrity of the leather. A cut of almost 70% across the width of the leather would definitely cause it to weaken, and I think it partially contributes to the stretching out of the leather. It wouldn’t matter if you kept the number of cards consistent in your wallet, that slot will still stretch out with time and there’s nothing to hold it in. Thirdly, I don’t know if it’s just me, but when using as a cash wrap, I always accidentally pull out a card when taking out a note, or vice versa if I’m removing the card at the back, a note will fall out. So I’m constantly reminding myself to hold on to things or risk having money or cards on the floor. All that being said, I still think the design is phenomenal, especially the finnigan. If there’s one thing I can change about it, it would be having the sides higher to completely cover the sides of the cards and not leave them exposed. As for the Franklin, I’ll try to carry it more to see if it’ll grow on me. It certainly wasn’t love at first sight.
Love this channel. I seen this wallet had taken over the top spot a few days ago but could not find the video. Was gonna ask but then it popped up today. It’s a little plain for my taste but still a great looking wallet nonetheless. I am currently carrying the base wallet from Taurus camp. I love the way you access cash along with the quick access card slots in the back. I rarely have to open the wallet at all.
Not really sure why but stitchless wallets doesn't really appeal to me. I guess I don't like it when you can easily disassemble the wallet. I like it to be more permanent. Even the aesthetics... minimally stiched wallets still looks better for me. Like the Open Sea Leather and the Tauruscamp wallets. But Lost Dutchman Leather does make awesome wallets as well. But I would rather get the Big Finn even with the price difference. Or even the Finnegan for a more minimalist style.
How many dollars will fit when not folded? Is five the recommended maximum? This is a great channel. Keep up the reviews and I may end up owning several wallets.
I recently purchased the Franklin wallet and couldn’t be happier. My concern is that the Canadian dollar is a fraction wider than the US dollar , would this cause tearing of the leather on the sides of the wallet when bills are folded over and guided in the front slot? The leather is quite thin. Thanks
I find it surprising that I enjoy your videos as much as I do. Keep up the great work! Would you consider reviewing the Go-Getter wallets? They have their original and a new wallet called the "Arthur" Again, thanks for the videos! Your reviews help me make better purchasing decisions considering wallets
Great review and great wallet! I recsntly gotnit and it's a new favorite if mine. I have one question/concern about it and would love any thoughts you have... I usually am not I big user of a quick access slot, I think mainly because I just like a clean/covered look of my wallets. For listening to your reviews, you kind of sold me on it to give a try. So I tried it with a wallet, and I noticed that my credit card feels a little loose in a quick access slot. If I turn it upside down and give a little shake, it moves and sometimes even falls out. I don't know why I would ever turn a wallet upside down and shake it, but it did make me worry a little bit about the security of say a credit card there. Do you find that there are any issues of cards falling out?
I ordered my Franklin and asked Nate to not put that easy access card slot in the back. And he responded and said sure thing! So my Franklin does not have the easy access slot in the back. I know it’s a pain in the butt, but you could always order another one and ask him not to cut out the access slot 😂
Have one find wallet is wide like the open sea wallets and cards that go in the center are hard to get at as it wasn't cut low enough thanks for review
The categories aren't evenly weighted. There's a video on the channel explaining the weighting of each category. th-cam.com/video/4rW2Pfspab4/w-d-xo.html
I really like their wallet but tried to contact the company by phone several times with no resolution. No calls returned after message as well. I am know reluctant to purchase one if customer service remains an issue.
so i bought this wallet in chinatown, the leather is super soft and it is just awesome, but she didn't tell me what type of leather it is, do any of you know what type of leather is smooth when touching and has a very soft feel? she just said 'good leather'
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I ordered a Franklin back in mid-February during his introductory drop in the Buck Brown color. It's the "Goldilocks" of his lineup. Perfectly sized right between the Finnigan and the Big Finn without the thickness and bulk.
I enjoy the hell out of all your reviews! I can send hours and hours. Kudos to having come up with all of THIS!
I have been looking at Lost Dutchman for my next wallet, mainly at the Big fin or the Finnigian. My decision just got a lot more complicated with this option, especially at the price. Clearly a great company with innovative designs. This is a good looking wallet, and no-stich wallets are growing on me, but I must admit I like the aesthetics that colour accents of thread can provide, plus the cleaner front and back surfaces are slightly more appealing to me.
Thanks for this review. The Franklin is currently my overall favorite wallet so I agree with the high score.
You like it better than the Finnigan?
I don't have the Finnegan. Just the Thin Finn.
I got this wallet as soon as it was available. I love it. It is my 4th wallet from Nate. Great quality as always.
Easily my favorite wallet ever! Got the russet and eager to see the patina journey.
Coming back to this review because I purchased the Franklin after watching this video, but you can actually fold NA (US/CA) cash in half and slot it in where the tab holds the wallet together at the back, one layer above the quick carry card slot! I figured that way you could organize the wallet as:
1) Internal card pocket: Archived/less used cards
2) External card slot: Most used card
3) Additional fold at back: Cash
Great info! Thank you!
I just ordered the Finnigan a couple of weeks ago, but after seeing this, I kind of wish I bought the Franklin instead. I'm totally impressed with this no-stitch design.
I've had this wallet for a week and it is pretty much my favorite minimalist leather wallet on the market right now.
How does it fit in front pocket?
@@ImTerero Fits well, it is basically the height of a credit card and maybe only 2 cm wider. If you want something even slimmer and mostly carry cards, you can get the smaller version (mini Franklin) , which is super small and basically the size of a credit card.
Why did you stop including the features list which you use show right after unboxing. (Leather type, price, made in " ", card/cash/coin capacity, leather thickness etc). It was really helpfull please start adding it back to your videos. Thanks.
Just got this one today, honestly I’m fitting like 5 cards on the front card slot and a whole bunch of cash and cards inside. This things great! It’s beautiful. We’ll see how it holds up, hopefully I don’t flex it out too much
Ordered this wallet about 6 weeks ago. Absolutely loved it for the first few weeks. However, I'm now quite disappointed because after breaking in, my quick access card easily would fall out (which is the exact reason I got a new wallet). I started putting two cards in to make a tighter fit, then three...I am now looking for a new wallet without a quick access slot. If you have to put 4 cards in a quick access slot, to me it kinda defeats the purpose. It's not quick access if you have to pull all the cards out to find the one you want. If you are putting multiple cards in the slot, this wallet is definitely for you. It's awesome. But not for me, unfortunately.
I can totally relate to the part of smelling the wallet :-) great review, Mark!
The best Wallet youtube channel by far
Love, love, LOVE my Frankin. By far the best wallet I have ever owned!
Beautiful wallet and I am very happy for the maker. Talented. The only thing is that the rankings is a bit strange. Even though this is a nice wallet, why is it better than Open Sea Leather Houbei for example? But I understand that is is just base on Mark's taste. I personally find the Houbei design more utilitarian. I won't speak about looks because that is subjective, but the Houbei has more pockets, better quick access pocket, and the little stitching is reliable and a standout feauture. Both wallets are nice, again, I just don't get the rankings 😊
Open Seas Leather do seem like they would be a good alternative to this. I haven't thought about the company for a while, I'll have to look at their offerings again, thanks for the reminder. The rankings are obviously quite subjective. I see them more as a guideline for people who aren't able to handle the product themselves before purchase. I don't think anyone should be dismissing a wallet that interests them based on a slightly lower score.
@@vuk0625 very true. Yes, their wallets are amazing also. I keep switching between the Houbei and the one that started it all: the gundeck. Good luck.
Open Seas has one stitchless wallet which I’ll be reviewing very soon. Stitchless versus sewn wallets are (obviously) designed and executed differently, so I rank them separately.
That said, I try to keep my review and rankings as unbiased as I can. I’m headed to Hawaii so I plan on stopping by Open Seas to say hello to Michael. I’ll let him know your appreciation for his wallets.
@@walletopia send him my greetings from the Netherlands! Michael and I have spoken before (in Spanish because he speaks it well). His passion for leather started in Central America when visiting Leather shoe makers there (he told me). And since I am from Honduras, we had a nice conversation. I own the Houbei and the Gundeck and love them too. Enjoy your trip Mark 😊
I collect wallets. I have eight or nine from Open Sea and a few from the Das Offene Meer days. I also have 3 from Lost Dutchman, including the Franklin. The Franklin is by far my favorite top loading wallet. The other top loading wallets I have are stitched together and it constricts the contents and makes it hard to get cash in and out. The stitchless design of the Franklin allows for it to be more flexible and it’s easier to work with cash. Currently I have the Open Sea Stitchless wallet in my back pocket (it’s like a gundeck with a whole lot of extra positives in my opinion). These two are my favorites of any I have right now.
Hey Mark you should do a 3 part review on Mitchel Leather Companies wallet options like you did for Nomad. I know you did their famous Money Clip Wallet a little bit ago but they also have a beautiful card wallet and wrap wallet. I have the MCW and card wallet in a amazing buffalo whiskey color. The MCW is 2 years old and looks new! I just got the card wallet for business cards and works amazing after broken in.
An incredible score for a boring wallet……… BUT it truly is a great 5* wallet. 🤩 Let me explain - being stitchless and made to a perfect size, it just looks so damn plain and boring *yawn* However, it fits nearly all notes and a wedge of cards into such a small, compact wallet that it is actually pretty epic. I am so confused right now! 😂 Part of me thinks it’s boring and the other half is on his website now ordering one. It’s making me feel ‘strange’ 🤨 I don’t know what’s going off. 🤔 Superb score for a well made and designed wallet. Absolutely superb job Nate. Well done to you Sir 👊🏻🤩
I just want to say Thank You. I watched a ton of your reviews before I ended up going with this wallet and happy I did. You have some great reviews and looking at all these wallets, it's made me want to start maybe having a few to alternate from. I will probably end up getting a WIllow Craft Luxe Minimalist and Tauruscamp Base Wallet. I've never been a big fan of a lot of the store bought wallets and have wasted money on high end designer ones which didn't last as long as it should have.
I just picked this exact one up, along with a Horween Dublin Topsider, can't wait for them to arrive! I feel like the russet color will patina really well. I'm going to drop them into service and rotate with my well loved daily carry 2 year old Horween Chromexcel LS Johnny. I have a Stow, a couple of Dango, and multiple Traxvax, but they are gathering dust. High quality leather is something else!
I’m almost tempted to pick this up based on Walletopia’s recommendation. Their previous highest rated wallet, the Craft & Lore port wallet, has been my EDC for a while and it’s been awesome.
I think the usability of this wallet is a bit overstated. Most of your cards would be all jumbled together, meaning you'd have to take them all out to find the one you want.
In addition, the flap feels figitty. I feel like if I was in a rush at a store, this wallet would take me a lot longer to pay than some others would.
Only if you’re searching for a card that’s not in your quick access slot in back, which would be the same as other wallets.
@@walletopiaTrue but it's only got one quick access slot and no other slots but the main one. Anyhow, thanks for responding, I'm a big fan of the channel!
I have one. It’s easy to use. Elegantly simple.
I currently have the Singular leather wallet and what’s nice about that one is you can fan the cards while still in the wallet because of the elastic band. Retrieving cards is a breeze.
This is the best wallet i own! Ordered another one plus the mini.
Great product, very good pricing also!
Just got mine in the mail along with a finnigan. I have to say, for one who loves micro wallets, the finnigan was perfect for me! I didn’t mind folding up the cash at all. It’s a small price to pay for space saving properties.
I must say, however, that I’m a little disappointed with the Franklin. Firstly, the leather. I’m not too familiar with the W&C harness leather being used, so please forgive my ignorance for finding the leather like plastic in the way it looks, sounds (squeaky), feels (the glaze feels like a layer of plastic, and it is super inconsistent cos it’s rough where the folds are, like micro fractures in plastic when it’s stretched/bent), and heck it even smells like plastic! And the leather is super thick! I compared the russet side by side with the buck brown, and it was easily 50% thicker on the russet. Not a good choice for a no-stitch wallet cos all that folding adds up to the thickness.
Secondly, I feel the quick draw weakens the integrity of the leather. A cut of almost 70% across the width of the leather would definitely cause it to weaken, and I think it partially contributes to the stretching out of the leather. It wouldn’t matter if you kept the number of cards consistent in your wallet, that slot will still stretch out with time and there’s nothing to hold it in.
Thirdly, I don’t know if it’s just me, but when using as a cash wrap, I always accidentally pull out a card when taking out a note, or vice versa if I’m removing the card at the back, a note will fall out. So I’m constantly reminding myself to hold on to things or risk having money or cards on the floor.
All that being said, I still think the design is phenomenal, especially the finnigan. If there’s one thing I can change about it, it would be having the sides higher to completely cover the sides of the cards and not leave them exposed. As for the Franklin, I’ll try to carry it more to see if it’ll grow on me. It certainly wasn’t love at first sight.
Love this channel. I seen this wallet had taken over the top spot a few days ago but could not find the video. Was gonna ask but then it popped up today. It’s a little plain for my taste but still a great looking wallet nonetheless. I am currently carrying the base wallet from Taurus camp. I love the way you access cash along with the quick access card slots in the back. I rarely have to open the wallet at all.
Would love to see you review his mini Franklin. Same as the Franklin, but smaller (obviously).
It just showed up at my house this week so it’s on the schedule
Nice wallet design…wish if it can handle all currencies…in that case I definitely consider one in my collection!
No, taller currencies must be folded twice (Yen and higher denom Euros).
How does Australian notes fit?
Love it. I'll have to order.
Love mine!
Not really sure why but stitchless wallets doesn't really appeal to me. I guess I don't like it when you can easily disassemble the wallet. I like it to be more permanent. Even the aesthetics... minimally stiched wallets still looks better for me. Like the Open Sea Leather and the Tauruscamp wallets.
But Lost Dutchman Leather does make awesome wallets as well. But I would rather get the Big Finn even with the price difference. Or even the Finnegan for a more minimalist style.
I want your review of mini Franklin too!
How many dollars will fit when not folded? Is five the recommended maximum?
This is a great channel. Keep up the reviews and I may end up owning several wallets.
Great review I would love to see a video review of his thin Finn do you plan on doing one for that wallet? I like this one but it seems big
I recently purchased the Franklin wallet and couldn’t be happier. My concern is that the Canadian dollar is a fraction wider than the US dollar , would this cause tearing of the leather on the sides of the wallet when bills are folded over and guided in the front slot? The leather is quite thin.
Thanks
Great review. Would love to see a comparison between the Franklin and mini Franklin.
It’s on the list!
I find it surprising that I enjoy your videos as much as I do. Keep up the great work!
Would you consider reviewing the Go-Getter wallets? They have their original and a new wallet called the "Arthur"
Again, thanks for the videos! Your reviews help me make better purchasing decisions considering wallets
Hi Mark. Can you do a carry test on the Franklin. Maybe 6 to 8 weeks. I would like to hear your impressions. Dan
Hi Mark. Another review I would like to see is the saddleback simple trifold. Its a great carry wallet. A little thick but still manageable. Dan
Hey, would you still recommend this wallet for someone looking for a stitchless design, or is there something similar/better out now?
Hi could you possibly do a comparison of the franklin mini vs the regular franklin please?
Great review and great wallet! I recsntly gotnit and it's a new favorite if mine. I have one question/concern about it and would love any thoughts you have... I usually am not I big user of a quick access slot, I think mainly because I just like a clean/covered look of my wallets. For listening to your reviews, you kind of sold me on it to give a try. So I tried it with a wallet, and I noticed that my credit card feels a little loose in a quick access slot. If I turn it upside down and give a little shake, it moves and sometimes even falls out. I don't know why I would ever turn a wallet upside down and shake it, but it did make me worry a little bit about the security of say a credit card there. Do you find that there are any issues of cards falling out?
I ordered my Franklin and asked Nate to not put that easy access card slot in the back. And he responded and said sure thing! So my Franklin does not have the easy access slot in the back. I know it’s a pain in the butt, but you could always order another one and ask him not to cut out the access slot 😂
Wouldn’t it be possible to fold the side parts inside the Wallet and wrap the long part over which would create a second compartment on the inside?
Have one find wallet is wide like the open sea wallets and cards that go in the center are hard to get at as it wasn't cut low enough thanks for review
Why???? But why???? Already purchased my Big Finn! Oh well! 🤣
do you think that in the biggest compartment you can fit also some coins?
Does a no-sitch wallet actually make the leather thinner? It feel like more leather layers are need to hold them together.
You’d be correct and it really depends on the design, leather weight and where the folds or stitching is located.
5+4+3+5+5=22, so 22/25 or 44/50?
The categories aren't evenly weighted. There's a video on the channel explaining the weighting of each category.
th-cam.com/video/4rW2Pfspab4/w-d-xo.html
It’s weighted
I really like their wallet but tried to contact the company by phone several times with no resolution. No calls returned after message as well. I am know reluctant to purchase one if customer service remains an issue.
Hey Kevin! Shoot me an email! I don’t have phones set up for customer service.
I'm tempted to buy this wallet purely because my name is Nate too lol
😂
Check the Emerson Wallet from Harlandmade
$45?!
so i bought this wallet in chinatown, the leather is super soft and it is just awesome, but she didn't tell me what type of leather it is, do any of you know what type of leather is smooth when touching and has a very soft feel?
she just said 'good leather'
I wonder if he used a nylon fabric the wallet would be even thinner.
this is not gonna last long with hardness.
I have bought this wallet 5 months ago and still didn't receive it. Support services is the worst that you can get.
This wallet wasn't available 5 months ago. Support is also excellent. I think you are talking about something else.
@@JimDrews it's Big Fin but also Lost Dutchman.
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